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Welcome, one and all, to episode 409 of Signals

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from Mars. I'm your host, Victor, and here we

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bring you an hour one music discussion. Haven't

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done one of these in a long time. For those of

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you new to the show, this is just me with a bunch

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of different patrons just shooting the shit,

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basically, about current hard rock and metal

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topics. Hope you guys enjoy. I want to send the

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shout out to my patrons for their support. Let's

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go oldest to newest here. We have Steven Saylor,

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Steven Hoker, Jeremy Weltman, Mike Jones, Brad

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Dahl, who appears on this episode, Gabriel Ruiz,

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Chris Vaglio, Jose Ruiz, Metal Dan, who's also

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on this episode, Johan Edistrum, Ed Ferguson,

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Anthony Mackie, who you can hear during the episode,

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Tony Espin, Chris Sinzak of Decimal Geek Podcast,

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Sean Richman, and Pascal Schomacher. Chris Sinzak,

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who I actually recorded an episode of Hooligan

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version of this episode, for example. Yeah, so

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this episode, like I said, we talk about a bunch

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of different topics that are in the news lately.

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I love having these discussions. They're therapeutic.

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I've had a professional tell me so as well. We'll

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leave it at that. But it's cool to catch up with

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you guys. And there are regulars that are in

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the chat as well. You don't have to be a patron.

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You can join us in the chat when we record these

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episodes live and chime in. And we've got some

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great people that do so on an almost weekly basis.

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We're streaming to a bunch of different platforms

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that we haven't in the past, like Rumble and

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TikTok. And we'll see how that goes. See if it

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helps bring more people in. Yeah, it's cool that

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all these years later, since 2009, I'm still

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doing this. People seem to still enjoy it. And

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people seem to still want to hang out and listen

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to my ramblings all these years later. I get

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pretty animated during this episode. Not going

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to lie to you guys. But yeah, it was fun. It

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was fun talking to everyone. Tonight, we're going

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to be doing an episode for our Hall of Fame where

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people have voted on bands that they would include

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in their own Hall of Fame if they were to start

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one. Basically, it's the first time that we're

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doing this. I figure that instead of letting

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the trolls that are the official Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame, let's just do our own. Let's just

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vote for no other reason at all. Just the fact

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that we love bands, we love music, and we want

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to talk about them. How about that? How about

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that being the reason and not just, oh, well,

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let's see how we can rile people up on the internet.

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Let's see how we can take advantage of this.

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Yeah, I want to take advantage of having a cool

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discussion about music. Anyway, thanks for listening.

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If you voted, thank you for voting on that. If

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not, If you're listening to this and it is before

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via social media or send me an email. Signals

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from Mars at Signals from Mars. And that is it,

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folks. Let's get on with the episode. Welcome,

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one and all, to the March 14th edition of Signals

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from Mars. I'm your host, Victor. Joining me

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this week is Metal Dan. And Anthony Mackey seems

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to have joined us as well. Anthony, we can't

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see you. No camera tonight. Okay, that's fine.

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Anthony, let me know if you're still going to

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be audibly participating in the episode or not.

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Okay, that works. Okay, cool. So awesome. There's

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the three of us going and who knows, maybe somebody

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else may join in, but we're back with a hour

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one music discussion. And just for those not

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familiar with the premise behind these hour one

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shows, it's just us riffing on different hot

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topic questions in hard rock and metal topics,

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however you want to look at it. But I came up

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with five different points to talk about tonight,

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and hopefully Dan and Anthony can... Help me

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out here. Sort through some of this hard rock

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and metal. I was going to say nonsense, nuttiness,

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just topics. How about that? Let's leave it at

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that. Let's not offend anyone. There's no script

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here, and I don't know where this goes, so I

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don't know what's going to happen. All right.

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So the first topic of the night, new albums we're

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looking forward to hearing. We are already three

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months in. There's a lot of good music that's

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come out so far, and we've still got plenty to

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go for the rest of the year. There are all types

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of rumors and things about albums that are coming

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out this year. There are a few that I would really

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like to hear. Hopefully when they come out, I

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will be just as enthused about them once I actually

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hear them. But Dan, any albums that you're looking

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forward to? Hearing this year, I need new music.

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So, yeah, I'm looking forward to the new Darkness

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album. I've heard a few cuts, and maybe some

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people I heard might have a problem with the

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album. I shouldn't talk about that. But I like

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what I've heard so far, and I'm looking forward

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to it. One of the leaked songs didn't turn me

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on, but the other ones have me. So the new Darkness

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is one. Okay. Any others? Yeah, I've really been

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into an Anthrax mood lately. So I'm really hoping

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for the best. I've, you know, I kind of over

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-listened to them a lot and then I'll pause again

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because I burn out. But I've been in that mood

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for Anthrax a lot lately. And then you just recently

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posted something about Volbeat, the song By a

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Monster's Hand. I was really surprised that I

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liked it. So now I'm looking for the new Volbeat

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too. Yeah, cool. Anthony, any new music you're

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looking forward to? No, Anthony. Oh, all right.

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Yeah, sorry, sorry. I was saying, I can't really

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think of anything off the top of my head. Also,

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the first one Dan mentioned there, Darkness,

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yeah. Three of the four released songs have been

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good, so that's not bad. Yeah. I read that Doug

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Pinnock has said that he feels it's time for

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King's X to write something else. Yeah, but I

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won't hold my breath for that. Okay. Cool. What

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a dysfunction they had with the last one. I don't

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see how they're interested in doing it again.

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Yeah, you're right. Even though it turned out

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well, it was a job to come out. Yeah, okay. What

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about you, Victor? Yeah, I've got a few here.

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You mentioned the Anthrax, same thing. I'm interested

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in listening to that one. There's a few other

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thrash ones that are supposed to come out. This

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year or maybe next year from what I've seen so

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far. There's Death Angel that's supposedly in

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the works. Testament. Armored Saint has started

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writing and recording stuff. Don't know how far

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along that is. I welcome that with open arms.

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But the one that's really piqued my interest

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where I've heard a bunch of tracks while... Two

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tracks, to be fair. We've talked about it on

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Patreon. It's the new Joe Holmes album, which

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the two tracks that I've heard so far I think

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are great. I'm really looking forward to that.

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And it's so interesting because I really like

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that Pharmacos album as well. So it's almost

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like he's releasing stuff once every like five

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or six years. And so long as the quality is there,

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I'm good with that. You know, I don't need to

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have a new album every year if it's just not

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going to be that good. So, uh, looks like, uh,

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Brad doll is also joining us here. Do you need

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a clap to sync this up now? No, no. I'll do it

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in the editing. Don't worry. I'm used to it.

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Fix it in the mix. Fix it in the mix. There you

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go. Sorry I'm late, guys. Metal Dan! Metal Dan!

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See that? How awesome is that? I haven't seen

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you in a while. Good to see you, Dan. We've also

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got Anthony Mackie with us. Audio only. Okay.

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Yeah. There's no camera on this computer I'm

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using. Yeah. Okay. So, Brad, since we've already...

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You're probably wishing there was no camera on

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mine. So we've... No, then we couldn't see the

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great bucket hat. We did this right here. There

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you go. Tell them where they can get this, Bob.

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Yeah. Well... I've been fighting with them all

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week about orders not being fulfilled. Well,

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we shouldn't let people know about that. All

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orders are fulfilled, of course. If they don't

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get their shit in gear, I'll be looking for merch

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provider number four. Oh, no. I do have to say

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this. Maybe the service ain't that great, but

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the quality of the product is there. My T -shirt's

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fantastic, this hat. Again, I get more compliments

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about this hat than any other hat that I wear.

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Well, it shouldn't take two months to get a T

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-shirt to someone. That's all I'm going to say.

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No, that's true. All right, so Brad, any new

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albums you're looking forward to hearing? Ooh,

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wow. Yeah, that's an excellent question. I heard

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you talking about some people who are working

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on new stuff. Wow. What you talked about, Joe

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Holmes, I'm very excited to hear what he's got

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cooking. The only other one that's really on

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my radar right now is Ghost. And I'm kind of

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interested in that. The one song I've heard,

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I mean, it's Ghost, you know. But it was a really

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light on the keyboards. I don't know if it was

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just the mix on that one or whatever, but it

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didn't have the, you know, the grandiose ghost

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ghostness going on. So I'm I'm OK with that.

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I'm OK with a stripped back ghost. Maybe maybe

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the keyboards are in the same frequencies as

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Queensryche symbols from Operation Mindcrime.

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No, there were lots of symbols there, man. Peter

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Collins, he never he never went. South on the

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symbols. It was the Ozzy album. It was the Scorpions

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album. Great white. Yeah. There was a lot of

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them there where the symbols just were hiding.

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I don't know. I think it was just like a production

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thing in the day where it's like, yeah, let's

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try to keep it. Or they were using drum machines

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and they didn't want, they didn't want to mix

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in, you know, that's the fake hi -hat stuff.

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It didn't sound that good. Well, they're doing

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that now with everything. Just ask Anthony about

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all the great double bass. Wow. Yeah, I know

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it's funny. When we did some of our recording

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back in the 80s, it was probably around 86. Well,

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you know, kind of the same time -ish. They were

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using samples for the drum sounds, for the toms

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and the kick and the snare. And so our drummer

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would play that, you know, with a Simmons kit.

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And then we'd go back afterward and add actual

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cymbals. And it was pretty funny because he would

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sit there with no drums, sit there on a drum

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stool with a hi -hat and cymbals and play along

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with the song. It came out really cool. But so,

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yeah, interesting stuff. We did weird things

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in the 80s. I think Slayer's probably the most

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famous band to do that. Oh, they did that, didn't

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they? Yeah. And that was what year was that?

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That was... 86. See? Was it that far along? It

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was the first... It was the first album. Yeah.

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Oh, right. Okay. So I think it might have been

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earlier than that. Yeah. Might have been. We

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did that on the last recording that we did. We

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recorded the drums and cymbals separately. Oh,

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wow. Just to help with the mix. Yeah. Here I

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thought we invented that. No, that's a trick.

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Yeah. 83. Show no mercy. Okay. So they did it

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before we did. Darn. Yeah. Oh, well. I said a

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bunch of other trends in the 80s, but maybe not

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that one. There you go. All right. So let's move

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on to the second topic here. I've been checking

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out what shows might be available when we hit

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the States this year. And there's a few. There's

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some package deals. There's, which is a package

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deal, the only bands that I've really listened

00:17:45.609 --> 00:17:49.569
to a fairly decent amount are Kill Switch Engage

00:17:49.569 --> 00:17:54.910
and Parkway Drive. I think I Prevail is on that

00:17:54.910 --> 00:17:57.250
as well, but I've listened to them sparingly.

00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.619
Offspring is coming around with Jimmy World and

00:18:01.619 --> 00:18:07.579
Newfound Glory, I think it is. Volbeat with Hailstorm.

00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.599
Volbeat will also be here in October, but with

00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:19.619
Bush, actually. So I'm trying to think. There's

00:18:19.619 --> 00:18:22.180
a third show that I looked at, and I just don't

00:18:22.180 --> 00:18:26.619
remember right now. But anyway. Dan, any shows

00:18:26.619 --> 00:18:28.400
that you're looking forward to checking out?

00:18:29.059 --> 00:18:33.440
Yeah, so a couple things. So tickets went on

00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.579
sale today for Shanker with Armored Saint opening.

00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:42.960
Okay, yeah. And I got in late. To look. And by

00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.539
the time I got there, the show that I wanted

00:18:44.539 --> 00:18:47.480
to go in Anaheim, it's nearly already sold out.

00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.500
And I was looking at they did it by sections.

00:18:50.539 --> 00:18:53.480
They're doing it by seats. The venue can be standing

00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:57.380
room. Looks like they're doing seats. They want

00:18:57.380 --> 00:19:04.079
$400 for one ticket up front for one way. I was.

00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:09.079
Yeah. And in the back, they want 50 to 60 to

00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:13.430
70 U .S. And, of course, I need my Armored Saint

00:19:13.430 --> 00:19:17.309
up close. And, yeah, I get it, Michael Shanker,

00:19:17.349 --> 00:19:20.430
whatever. But I'm an Armored Saint fan. Call

00:19:20.430 --> 00:19:23.549
it what I am. So I want to just see Armored Saint.

00:19:23.910 --> 00:19:27.069
So I don't know. Hopefully I'll get another chance.

00:19:27.309 --> 00:19:28.730
Looks like so far I'm skipping. They're playing

00:19:28.730 --> 00:19:33.549
a couple of other venues. I can try. I was surprised.

00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:37.609
I was shocked at the cost because this is a smallish

00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:43.109
venue. Medium sizes. Yeah. And I don't know why

00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:46.009
the prices are so high. But anyways, that was

00:19:46.009 --> 00:19:50.170
interesting. But next month is Jackal. Before

00:19:50.170 --> 00:19:53.470
you go on on Jackal, is Armand St. doing the

00:19:53.470 --> 00:19:57.509
whole tour with Michael? No. It's only the California

00:19:57.509 --> 00:20:03.690
dates. Oh. One date in Texas and one in Arizona.

00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:07.730
So it's. It's Anaheim, Agora Hills, somewhere

00:20:07.730 --> 00:20:10.950
up in San Francisco. It's four or five dates

00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:16.130
in California. Two dates. The Agora Hills is

00:20:16.130 --> 00:20:18.250
a nice venue. It's small. It's going to be very

00:20:18.250 --> 00:20:21.049
intimate. It's a drive for me. That's the way

00:20:21.049 --> 00:20:27.490
it's out there on the 101. But, yeah, it's just

00:20:27.490 --> 00:20:29.509
a few dates that I'm happy that they're doing.

00:20:31.539 --> 00:20:34.460
I really like to see them. It's funny, Shelley

00:20:34.460 --> 00:20:37.640
was just showing me that she got the ad, the

00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:39.640
Michael Schenker thing. She goes, you're going

00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:41.599
to go see this. It's like, well, you're not really

00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:43.839
coming anywhere near here. Denver is probably

00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:47.339
the closest. But I just got a notice from the

00:20:47.339 --> 00:20:49.279
place that I'm going to see Saxon a week from

00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.799
today that they're playing there at the Tobin

00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.430
Arts Center. san antonio and they're selling

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the minimum the lower tickets which would be

00:21:00.769 --> 00:21:03.609
up in the upper deck would be 39 which that's

00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:07.869
not too bad cool yeah we were talking at the

00:21:07.869 --> 00:21:10.170
top of the hour that armor saint is probably

00:21:10.170 --> 00:21:13.630
releasing a new album this year so hopefully

00:21:13.630 --> 00:21:15.809
there'll be more than just this they're more

00:21:15.809 --> 00:21:19.490
active than ever which is a great thing So that

00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:22.269
kind of was weird. It is what it is. I just saw

00:21:22.269 --> 00:21:24.329
him twice last year, and they're playing with

00:21:24.329 --> 00:21:28.650
Wasp in Europe. So, again, take your shot. When

00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:30.849
you take it, go see Armored Stain. I make the

00:21:30.849 --> 00:21:33.390
drive. I've driven all over just to see them.

00:21:33.950 --> 00:21:38.190
But, yeah, Jackal. I happen to be a – I think

00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:41.890
Jeff Worley, the pirate, is a guitar god. I like

00:21:41.890 --> 00:21:44.869
watching him play. I know not everybody's got

00:21:44.869 --> 00:21:48.009
a taste for Jackal. My wife's not going. I've

00:21:48.009 --> 00:21:54.329
got to solo it. But I dig it. Last time was like

00:21:54.329 --> 00:21:57.289
five years ago, and I need about one show every

00:21:57.289 --> 00:21:59.890
five years, and I'm good. More than that, it's

00:21:59.890 --> 00:22:03.049
the same shit over and over. Where are they playing

00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:08.750
at? Where am I going to? Orange County, South

00:22:08.750 --> 00:22:12.789
Orange County. They're all over. There's a venue

00:22:12.789 --> 00:22:15.490
opened up in Fontana that's brand new. They're

00:22:15.490 --> 00:22:17.509
playing Vegas. They're playing Vamp. They're

00:22:17.509 --> 00:22:21.089
playing Arizona. So when they come out to the

00:22:21.089 --> 00:22:24.289
West Coast, they do it. And then they go back

00:22:24.289 --> 00:22:27.349
to the East and Texas and all the other stuff.

00:22:27.450 --> 00:22:30.930
And they don't leave the U .S., it seems. Well,

00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:37.289
they probably can't. But I've never seen them.

00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:42.680
Based on your assessment, it's a band I should

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:49.220
see. The bass has got a great tone. I like it

00:22:49.220 --> 00:22:52.539
every time I hear one of their songs. Roman's

00:22:52.539 --> 00:22:55.119
got a thick, good tone. He's got a good attitude.

00:22:55.539 --> 00:22:58.619
It's a good band live. And then I'll get off

00:22:58.619 --> 00:23:01.000
this topic and pass it on to somebody else. End

00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:05.759
of the year is Weird Al. I know a lot of people

00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.220
like Weird Al. I mean, going and seeing him.

00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.119
I know he's got a killer band. Yeah, this time

00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.799
he's bringing back the big show. This is back

00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:17.019
to return to the I'm fat and all that kind of

00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:20.019
stuff. So this is the full thing back because

00:23:20.019 --> 00:23:22.700
he took a break from that and now this is back.

00:23:22.779 --> 00:23:28.440
So that's it, Weird Al. That's pretty cool. And

00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.000
is that going to be a summer tour or end of the

00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.819
year, you're saying? Yeah, Weird Al's at near

00:23:33.819 --> 00:23:36.279
the end of the year. He's doing a bunch of shows

00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:42.880
all over the U .S. Amazing. I've seen him, gosh,

00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:47.220
five times or so. And my wife laughs and she

00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:51.799
enjoys it. So it's a good date night. He's playing

00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.640
in the L .A. Forum. So that's a nice big venue.

00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:59.519
Wow, that is. He's playing the New York area

00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:05.200
right before we get there. We arrive on the 18th

00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:07.619
and he's playing the 12th at Madison Square Garden.

00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:17.430
He'll sell that out. He's – let's see. Where's

00:24:17.430 --> 00:24:22.990
the 12th? Why isn't Beth on the 13th, 17th? It's

00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:25.769
a once -in -a -lifetime at least. You should

00:24:25.769 --> 00:24:32.849
see Weird Al. Philly would work. It's sold out.

00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:36.329
Yeah, it's sold. He's a great entertainer. It's

00:24:36.329 --> 00:24:40.029
a great show. Sold out in Philly. Then the next

00:24:40.029 --> 00:24:45.490
show is Vienna, Virginia. Yeah. Raleigh, North

00:24:45.490 --> 00:24:49.990
Carolina. So essentially, if we want to see,

00:24:50.029 --> 00:24:53.349
because the day we get there, he's at the Foxwood

00:24:53.349 --> 00:24:58.509
Casino. That's a good venue. Yeah. No way. Yeah.

00:24:58.609 --> 00:25:02.630
But after eight hours of being on a plane, there's

00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:06.109
no way we're going to Foxwood, which is another

00:25:06.109 --> 00:25:12.230
three hours away. And even going down to Filthy

00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:21.750
Delphia, that's like two hours. So that sucks.

00:25:22.269 --> 00:25:26.450
I guess there's a wait list as well. Yeah, tickets

00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:30.569
went on sale well before a year before the dates

00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:34.109
actually are fulfilled. So he lined it up. Anyways.

00:25:34.650 --> 00:25:38.410
All right. Anthony, any shows you're looking

00:25:38.410 --> 00:25:44.650
forward to seeing? Yeah, it's really busy gig

00:25:44.650 --> 00:25:49.569
-wise at the moment here. Oh, wow. And I've already

00:25:49.569 --> 00:25:53.250
got more tickets in the bag than I think I've

00:25:53.250 --> 00:25:58.210
ever had. The first of which is next Friday.

00:25:59.130 --> 00:26:03.910
Zeeland Arder are playing here. So go and see

00:26:03.910 --> 00:26:07.740
that. And then a lot of things that aren't really

00:26:07.740 --> 00:26:13.359
metal, so to speak, you know. I've got tickets

00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:21.859
for Viagra Boys. Okay. Only DeFranco. Who else?

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:25.660
We've got Weezer, My Bloody Valentine. Whoa.

00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.660
But that's right up to the end of the year. But

00:26:29.660 --> 00:26:33.940
there's a lot of metal gigs happening here. Like,

00:26:34.619 --> 00:26:36.799
Even what you just mentioned, like Shanker's

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:41.759
playing here, Wasser playing here. And there's

00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.980
loads being announced all the time. Like I think

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:49.599
I saw, was it like fucking Dark Angel were playing

00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:55.980
here? Okay. And there's other kind of, there's

00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:59.859
loads of metal happening here. It's a really

00:26:59.859 --> 00:27:05.740
busy year for concerts. That's cool. The other

00:27:05.740 --> 00:27:09.900
show that I forgot that I couldn't think of before

00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:12.099
is Pantera and Amon Amarth is the other show.

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:20.500
Pantera were here a week ago. And actually two

00:27:20.500 --> 00:27:26.319
nights ago was also your son's favorite band,

00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:32.799
Limp Bizkit, were here. This gig's all the time

00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.759
here. I don't know how people are affording it

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.460
because they're crazy expensive. Expensive, yeah.

00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:41.099
That was my question. I mean, I'm sure all shows

00:27:41.099 --> 00:27:42.920
are different, but what about are you paying

00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.180
for a lot of these shows? I just had a look here.

00:27:47.779 --> 00:27:50.400
I'm not going to go to see Wasp, but they're

00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:59.819
43 euro. Shanker, I looked, was 48 euro. Smallish.

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.859
venue like if you were excited about it it would

00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:07.920
be a good gig but these bigger shows are just

00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:13.519
insane you know big controversy here with dynamic

00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:21.299
pricing and things like that so but like the

00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:27.279
things I choose to go to like I think Weezer

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:34.559
was 70 or something you know and the other which

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.720
I'm going to next week was only like 30 euro

00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:45.680
yeah Volbeat is 65 starting at 65 here and in

00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:54.720
New Jersey it was yeah about the same 67 dollars

00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:01.339
for It's seated kind of middle of the amphitheater,

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:06.480
like middle, middle, I would say is about 67.

00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.279
Yeah. So, I mean, I guess in that case, we got

00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.440
to pick either whether we want to see Bush or

00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.640
hailstorm. I don't know. I got to say, I don't

00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:22.799
think those ticket prices are that bad. What's

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.369
that Anthony? I was going to say, good luck choosing

00:29:27.369 --> 00:29:33.490
between Bush and Aylson. But yeah, like I've

00:29:33.490 --> 00:29:36.470
got to pick and choose what I go to as well.

00:29:37.250 --> 00:29:40.089
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the thing is for

00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:43.950
us too, you know, and I got to think about four

00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:47.910
tickets because it's me, my wife, my kids. So

00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:51.930
for example, Pantera, the Pantera show, Offspring.

00:29:52.779 --> 00:29:56.140
was like 300 something dollars for the four of

00:29:56.140 --> 00:30:01.680
us um the other package with uh kill switch was

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.220
like 270 and volbeat's going to be similar in

00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:10.819
price to that so you know we usually pick one

00:30:10.819 --> 00:30:14.039
show because we can't afford to see absolutely

00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:18.500
everything because of the prices but um Because,

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:20.299
you know, we don't know when we're going back.

00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.460
We don't know what shows are going to be there.

00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.740
And last year, unfortunately, there really wasn't

00:30:24.740 --> 00:30:26.640
much. This year, there's a bunch to choose from.

00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.680
But there really isn't anything that, you know,

00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.000
that makes me want to go, oh, shit, I have to

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.119
see that. You know, Shanker's playing close to

00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.900
where Steve Holker lives. He's playing in NetCon,

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.339
New Jersey. He had an old theater there, which

00:30:44.339 --> 00:30:46.759
is like 20 minutes from where my folks live.

00:30:48.049 --> 00:30:52.289
But Armored Saint isn't at that show. And it's

00:30:52.289 --> 00:30:55.390
a seated, it's a really small venue. I don't

00:30:55.390 --> 00:30:58.589
think you can fit more than like 250, 300 people

00:30:58.589 --> 00:31:01.630
in that. That's crazy. That's kind of weird.

00:31:01.730 --> 00:31:07.089
But maybe those are all going to be $400 tickets,

00:31:07.190 --> 00:31:13.279
like you're saying, Dan. So who knows? Brad,

00:31:13.299 --> 00:31:15.880
shows, we know you're going to see Saxon. What

00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.160
else you have lined up and what other shows would

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.200
you like to see? Which, by the way, Dan will

00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.380
like this. Lizzie Borden is the first act on

00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:28.180
that Saxon show. Good for them, yeah. Yeah, I'm

00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:30.759
excited to see them. I think they have a new

00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.150
album coming out. I should say he has a new album

00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:37.789
coming out. But, yeah, I know he hasn't played

00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:40.329
them out in a while. So it'll be interesting

00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:44.170
to see what his set list is like. And he probably

00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:46.089
won't play real long. And then Riot is the middle

00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:50.150
band, Riot V. Good. So I think that's going to

00:31:50.150 --> 00:31:52.609
be pretty good. And I found out Riot is playing

00:31:52.609 --> 00:31:56.369
The Day I Arrive in Austin. So I think I might

00:31:56.369 --> 00:31:58.269
try to hit that one as well. I don't know who

00:31:58.269 --> 00:32:01.710
would be on that bill. So, yeah, I'm going to

00:32:01.710 --> 00:32:04.990
have fun there. Good times in Texas. Blind in

00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:07.829
Texas. Blind in Texas. There you go. And so the

00:32:07.829 --> 00:32:09.890
next possible thing, I don't have tickets for

00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:13.190
this yet because I don't like buying tickets

00:32:13.190 --> 00:32:15.069
way ahead of time unless it's a reserve seat

00:32:15.069 --> 00:32:18.289
thing. And I'm like Dan. I like to get down in

00:32:18.289 --> 00:32:22.710
the front. I like to, you know, knock about with

00:32:22.710 --> 00:32:26.730
the boys. But the next one is Gene Simmons in

00:32:26.730 --> 00:32:31.970
Utah next month. And he's like the 10th. So that's

00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:35.369
not very far away. And so I'd really like to

00:32:35.369 --> 00:32:38.390
go see, go see him and his band. The venue sucks

00:32:38.390 --> 00:32:41.950
though. And it's, it's pretty big. But it's,

00:32:41.950 --> 00:32:44.490
it's just a crappy venue. The sound in there

00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:47.269
is bad. It's because it's tall, but I'm still

00:32:47.269 --> 00:32:50.789
going to try to go. So hopefully. You could be

00:32:50.789 --> 00:32:53.829
his roadie if you want to. Dr. Poison, Dr. Love.

00:32:54.730 --> 00:32:57.109
Yeah. The difference there is he'd have to pay

00:32:57.109 --> 00:33:03.869
me. That made a lot of news. Like, that's a shocker

00:33:03.869 --> 00:33:08.170
because, well, because we know that bands do

00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:12.109
this, but they're not at that level. So for a

00:33:12.109 --> 00:33:14.230
band, a lower level to say you can roadie is

00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:20.990
kind of a fandom thing, you know, or it's stupidly

00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:23.890
priced and you shouldn't do it. What do you think

00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:28.930
about? Okay. No, but here's the thing to that,

00:33:29.009 --> 00:33:31.490
though. There's so many people going apeshit

00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:33.509
about that. There's people going apeshit about

00:33:33.509 --> 00:33:41.390
the whole $25 ,000 strutter single. There's going

00:33:41.390 --> 00:33:43.829
to be somebody out there that's going to buy

00:33:43.829 --> 00:33:47.029
it. The reason that they released this stuff

00:33:47.029 --> 00:33:50.470
is that there's going to be somebody who's got

00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:55.130
millions of dollars. Who's a fan that has no

00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.549
issue paying for it? And that's what a lot of

00:33:58.549 --> 00:34:03.410
people don't understand. The other day, I had

00:34:03.410 --> 00:34:07.210
this random post come up on Facebook. And somebody

00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:12.190
said, Def Leppard was so much bigger than Kiss

00:34:12.190 --> 00:34:17.909
in the 80s. Why is Kiss's I Was Made For Loving

00:34:17.909 --> 00:34:23.159
You over a billion streams? Def Leppard's song

00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.760
that's been streamed the most, Pour Some Sugar

00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.639
On Me, only has like a million something or other.

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.760
And somebody says, oh, well, that's because,

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:39.059
you know, the rights for 10 years, Def Leppard,

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.739
much like Tool and Led Zeppelin and Taylor Swift

00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:50.039
decided not to. sign for digital rights and this

00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.199
and that and blah, blah, blah. And they were

00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.059
going on this whole thing. And I responded and

00:34:55.059 --> 00:34:58.199
nobody responded back. And I said, okay, so for

00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.360
all of you people that have been criticizing

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:06.619
KISS for being part of Scooby -Doo, for being

00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:09.480
part of Hello Kitty. I want to be in Scooby -Doo.

00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.800
For being in all these different things. They're

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:18.500
marketing their music to younger people. So what

00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:23.599
that means is that you've got kids with phones

00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.579
streaming stuff that they've watched in a Scooby

00:35:27.579 --> 00:35:31.760
-Doo cartoon and that stays in their playlist

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.320
and they keep playing it. And I said, you people

00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:40.400
still think that the Kiss avatars. are for you.

00:35:40.579 --> 00:35:43.420
They're not for 50 and 60 -year -old people.

00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.039
They're for kids that are 8, 9, 10 years old.

00:35:47.099 --> 00:35:50.820
It's to compete with Marvel stuff, keep the music

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:54.079
alive, and when you realize that Def Leppard

00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.320
caps off at a million streams for Pour Some Sugar

00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.159
On Me while I Was Made For Loving You, a song

00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.559
that I really don't like anyway, is at two billion

00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.340
streams. It's because they weren't marketing

00:36:09.340 --> 00:36:12.280
for the old guy that wasn't going to watch the

00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.360
cartoon. That's the guy that's going to buy that

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:21.920
stupid $25 ,000 gold single. People still don't.

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.340
I mean, it's just so idiotic to see people online

00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:28.880
bitching about, oh, well, you know, you're not

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.659
marketing for me. You're right. And look at Def

00:36:31.659 --> 00:36:35.510
Leppard's market. Are people that are listening

00:36:35.510 --> 00:36:39.170
to Def Leppard, that are stuck on hysteria and

00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:42.769
pyromania, are they listening to that? And I'm

00:36:42.769 --> 00:36:46.570
talking about 80 % of their audience. Are they

00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:49.250
listening to that on Spotify or are they still

00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:54.489
using their CD to listen to that? Most people

00:36:54.489 --> 00:36:57.510
and what they don't realize is that a lot of

00:36:57.510 --> 00:37:02.329
people our age and even people younger than us.

00:37:02.730 --> 00:37:05.769
haven't jumped on streaming because they're faithful

00:37:05.769 --> 00:37:09.690
to that cd you can't get them past an album that's

00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:13.250
come out in 1989 much the less ask them to get

00:37:13.250 --> 00:37:17.670
on streaming yeah if you haven't got it out of

00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:19.309
your system to do the meet and greets and do

00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:20.909
whatever there's still people out there that'll

00:37:20.909 --> 00:37:23.989
do the the gene simmons thing absolutely because

00:37:23.989 --> 00:37:26.349
it's it's an opportunity and you're like screw

00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:28.469
it i got the money i'm gonna burn it i'm gonna

00:37:28.469 --> 00:37:31.650
do it yes and that's and that's the whole thing

00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:34.780
Oh, you know, what kind of a dummy? Yeah, okay.

00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:38.199
So if you have the money to burn and you have

00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.300
the choice to meet someone in that circumstance

00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:46.760
and you idolize them or like their music, you

00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.920
just won the lottery. Hey, Gene Simmons is coming

00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.679
to town. I want to be his roadie. That's not

00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.820
that far -fetched. No, not at all. No. So for...

00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:05.289
A slob like myself that doesn't have that kind

00:38:05.289 --> 00:38:07.570
of money? Sure, for me, I'm like, there's no

00:38:07.570 --> 00:38:10.650
way. I'm not going to do it. But if I'm not going

00:38:10.650 --> 00:38:15.150
to begrudge anyone who can economically pull

00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:19.170
it off. And really has it in them that they want

00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:23.699
to do it, absolutely. That's it. And by the way,

00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:26.599
Def Leppard's playing a casino. Now, they've

00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.440
been doing this these last couple years in the

00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.559
U .S., these stadium tours with Journeys or whatever.

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.659
Well, now they're playing a casino here in California.

00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:38.079
I'm not sure it's sold out yet, but have they

00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:41.559
already fallen down, starting to go back down?

00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:47.840
Because they can't sell out for as much as they

00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.510
want to tell you they're as big as ever. Same

00:38:50.510 --> 00:38:52.969
with Motley Crue. Motley Crue, who all of a sudden,

00:38:52.969 --> 00:38:57.070
Vince Neil has a mysterious ailment, a ticketitis.

00:38:58.570 --> 00:39:04.409
Sugar diabetes. You know, I don't understand

00:39:04.409 --> 00:39:06.909
why these bands have to play with smoke and mirrors

00:39:06.909 --> 00:39:08.690
all the time. There are other bands. Oh, you

00:39:08.690 --> 00:39:11.050
know, we've canceled our European tour because

00:39:11.050 --> 00:39:14.909
it costs too much for us to tour. You were here

00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:19.110
two months ago. You're playing the same set list.

00:39:19.389 --> 00:39:23.119
Yeah. Who is now going to come back and pay another

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.760
$60 to $80, euros, whatever it is, to see the

00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:33.920
same set list? So now the new excuse is, oh,

00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.639
you know, ever since COVID, the gas prices have

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.800
gone up, so we can't afford to tour. No, people

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.860
can't afford to see you three times a year. It's

00:39:45.860 --> 00:39:52.170
that simple. All right. Okay, so Brad, so you're

00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:56.150
going to see Gene Simmons? I really hope so,

00:39:56.230 --> 00:40:01.550
yes. And then I got M3 the first week into May.

00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:07.010
Well done keeping us on track there, Dan. And

00:40:07.010 --> 00:40:09.889
here's the thing about M3, you know, the big.

00:40:11.379 --> 00:40:13.840
Mark Striegel, I love him, but he was really

00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.400
hyping this out before it was announced. Oh,

00:40:16.420 --> 00:40:18.179
you guys are going to be so surprised. And I

00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:22.000
was like, oh, I'm really excited now. And I'm

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.139
telling you, David Lee Roth, I don't know that

00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:26.920
that's really that exciting. I'm going to find

00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.980
out. I hope I'm really wrong, and he puts on

00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:33.960
a great show, and he sings well, and I'm sure

00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.000
his band will be good. But I kind of feel like

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.059
it'll be almost like when I saw Yngwie the last

00:40:39.059 --> 00:40:42.579
time there. It was like just a laugh fest. It

00:40:42.579 --> 00:40:46.780
was just a spinal tap. Brad? We'll see. Brad?

00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:57.940
Yeah. Yeah, I hope he does that. Just remember,

00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.320
he may not even bring a band. He may bring his

00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:06.059
collie out. He'll be wearing his soft tap shoes.

00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:09.820
He'll be sliding across the stage with the sword,

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.099
with the flag at the end. Hopefully not. He won't

00:41:13.099 --> 00:41:21.880
nip his nose this time. But how? This is what

00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.800
I don't understand. All right. So Steven Pearce

00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.539
is taking and I'm sorry for hijacking this. Steven

00:41:26.539 --> 00:41:31.119
Pearce is taking Warren. Demartini, Carlos Cavazzo.

00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.280
I forget if it's Jimmy DeAnder or I think it's

00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.500
still the guy from Slaughter on drums. Okay.

00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.619
Who's great? What's his name? The original bass

00:41:44.619 --> 00:41:49.360
player. Matt Thor. Matt Thor. I used to idolize

00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.880
him. Go ahead. David Lee Roth. Not dead. Steve

00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.639
Vai. Billy Sheehan. And Greg Bissonette together.

00:41:59.420 --> 00:42:01.519
Those guys would do it in a heartbeat. Those

00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.139
guys would be there. They would be there. This

00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:07.119
is the perfect gig to do that at. Yes. How many

00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:12.039
tickets would they sell? All of them. I'd be

00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:16.929
able to resell mine. Even if Dave. People would

00:42:16.929 --> 00:42:20.170
show up just to see those guys play with him

00:42:20.170 --> 00:42:23.510
again. That was that was fucking amazing as they

00:42:23.510 --> 00:42:26.690
were minutes away from doing it at that bowling

00:42:26.690 --> 00:42:29.289
event thing. And they got shut down by the fire

00:42:29.289 --> 00:42:32.869
marshal of just that's a great story. And you're

00:42:32.869 --> 00:42:36.389
absolutely right. That's what they should do.

00:42:36.510 --> 00:42:39.929
I wish they do it. Those guys would do it in

00:42:39.929 --> 00:42:41.769
a heartbeat, too. I know they all want to do

00:42:41.769 --> 00:42:46.559
it. But you're right. Then it would be like,

00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:50.599
holy crap, M3 just put themselves way the hell

00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.199
up there. There you go. Instead of like, oh my

00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.219
goodness, Stephen Piercy and Warren Demartini

00:42:57.219 --> 00:43:01.199
are playing together again? That's going to sell

00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.300
huge tickets. It probably will. People will go

00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:09.320
nuts. I mean, that's going to... I think it'll

00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.719
pull people in and they've announced more shows

00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:15.000
since. Yeah, I think they had to hold off on

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.079
that because they wanted to – it was probably

00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:18.800
part of the deal with M3. It's like we've got

00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.239
to make this look like this is the only one you're

00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.320
doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now they've started

00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:26.059
announcing other stuff. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Because

00:43:26.059 --> 00:43:28.559
I think – because Steven has been saying that

00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.920
he wants to retire. So is this the end now then?

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.780
Well, if he wants to retire, I think he should.

00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.559
Well, this may be the closest we see Rat getting

00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.800
back together again, unfortunately. So, Brad,

00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.400
you're good to go. So you're going to probably

00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.280
the M3 and you get to report back on that. Yeah,

00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.199
I hope so. And you sneak down front and you don't

00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:57.860
even have tickets for the front and you sneak

00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.079
down in front because you told us all that you

00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.599
got the way. Don't tell me. You know what, though?

00:44:03.860 --> 00:44:06.579
Because I found out some other things about this.

00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:08.480
They're actually selling those seats now. So

00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.230
I don't know that I'll be able to. pull the maneuvers

00:44:11.230 --> 00:44:14.849
like i did before yeah the things things are

00:44:14.849 --> 00:44:18.690
changing with that m3 group um let's see what

00:44:18.690 --> 00:44:24.409
else i got going on here um tell us yeah yeah

00:44:24.409 --> 00:44:27.789
uh i know at the end of the summer uh we're gonna

00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:30.030
go see toto and salt lake and that that's like

00:44:30.030 --> 00:44:33.610
gonna be the most expensive concert ticket i've

00:44:33.610 --> 00:44:36.670
ever purchased because shelly wants to sit down

00:44:36.670 --> 00:44:41.719
you know Closest you can. It's in a shed. And

00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.639
I can't remember what it was, but it was like,

00:44:44.659 --> 00:44:49.000
oh, my gosh. Crazy. You're spending more than

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.880
Kansas for Toto? Yeah, I think I could actually

00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.820
have Kansas come play at my house for what I'm

00:44:54.820 --> 00:44:58.940
paying for Toto to go see Toto. And at this case,

00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.800
you know, Toto's not in Kansas anymore. You know

00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.400
what? That would be like the actual great bill,

00:45:07.539 --> 00:45:10.300
wouldn't it? Toto and Kansas together? Come on,

00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:15.400
guys. What have you thought of that? Let's see.

00:45:15.619 --> 00:45:19.239
I've never seen Billy Idol, and he's coming to

00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.019
Utah at the end of the summer as well. And so

00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:23.840
I'm going to kind of keep an eye on that. I'm

00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.519
not just going to jump out there and buy tickets

00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.880
yet. They're expensive as well. It's the same

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.360
venue, same outdoor venues. Dan, you've seen

00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.440
Billy? Probably back in the old days. No, that's

00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:38.719
not in my area of concern. Okay. I'm not, no.

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.059
Fair enough. All right. So that's kind of what

00:45:43.059 --> 00:45:48.119
I have on the docket for right now. Okay. Oh,

00:45:48.139 --> 00:45:51.639
I just remembered another one that has come up.

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.679
Melvin. Oh, okay. And they're playing with Red

00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:02.739
Cross. Oh, wow. With Red Cross? Yeah. Wow. I

00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:05.820
didn't know they were still doing anything. Yeah,

00:46:05.940 --> 00:46:10.800
and Steve McDonald is playing with Melvins now.

00:46:10.940 --> 00:46:15.000
Okay. So he'll be double -jopping that night.

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.980
So you might be forced to listen to some Kiss

00:46:19.980 --> 00:46:24.659
music live, because both bands cover Kiss. That's

00:46:24.659 --> 00:46:31.699
right. Let's hope not. The question is, will

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:35.360
you be able to identify any of those songs? It'll

00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:39.579
be interesting to hear Anthony come back to us

00:46:39.579 --> 00:46:41.619
and say, yeah, Red Cross played this really cool

00:46:41.619 --> 00:46:46.460
song, Detroit Rock City. No, I'd recognize that

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:53.900
one. Wow. All right, cool. So next topic here,

00:46:54.260 --> 00:46:58.260
a new documentary about Skid Row's Slave to the

00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:03.760
Grind. Interesting that we're getting this in

00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:11.059
2025. Is this necessary at this point? I mean,

00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:12.619
this is something that probably would have been

00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:17.739
cool back in the day. But now, I mean, the producer

00:47:17.739 --> 00:47:20.480
certainly doesn't remember anything about this

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.679
album because when he was on Decibel Geek and

00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:26.380
they wanted him to talk about it, he couldn't

00:47:26.380 --> 00:47:31.230
remember anything about it. Dan, does a Slave

00:47:31.230 --> 00:47:35.550
to the Grind documentary tickle your fancy? None

00:47:35.550 --> 00:47:39.329
whatsoever. I did hear today that Maiden's releasing

00:47:39.329 --> 00:47:49.050
a 50th anniversary. Back to you. Okay. Anthony,

00:47:49.469 --> 00:47:54.750
would you be in this one? I'm not going to say

00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:58.110
none whatsoever, but I'm still going to say no.

00:47:59.170 --> 00:48:04.050
I think it would make a good YouTube video essay.

00:48:04.269 --> 00:48:10.630
Yeah, okay. Which I would watch. But a full -on

00:48:10.630 --> 00:48:16.570
documentary? I don't know. Yeah, Brad? Yeah,

00:48:16.829 --> 00:48:18.929
you know, Skid Row is one of those bands. I've

00:48:18.929 --> 00:48:21.230
seen them a few times now. The best time I've

00:48:21.230 --> 00:48:25.989
seen them was with Eric Greenwald when they were

00:48:25.989 --> 00:48:28.539
doing the... warming up for scorpions at the

00:48:28.539 --> 00:48:34.059
in vegas at the residency and i i liked the new

00:48:34.059 --> 00:48:36.380
songs they were playing and i've heard those

00:48:36.380 --> 00:48:39.320
old songs a lot and i think you've kind of talked

00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.039
about this victor where the being in new jersey

00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.360
they were kind of shoved down your throat yeah

00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.800
i kind of felt that way too even though i was

00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:51.300
in california and those songs just for some reason

00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:54.360
just don't hit me hard They're just like, they're

00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.800
okay. I mean, that's not bad. It's just, it just

00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.079
doesn't like move me. And I've seen Sebastian.

00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:02.860
I'll be seeing him in M3. And I hope he doesn't

00:49:02.860 --> 00:49:04.960
play mostly, I'm sure he will play mostly Skid

00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.219
Row songs, but I'd like his solo stuff actually

00:49:07.219 --> 00:49:10.679
better. And he's actually pretty, he was pretty

00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.719
good last time I saw him in M3. I've seen videos

00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.119
of him on YouTube where he's just awful singing,

00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.780
but he sang really well. Put on a good show.

00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:21.699
He was funny. He was endearing, and it was pretty

00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:24.340
good. But the Skid Row Boys, the band is really

00:49:24.340 --> 00:49:28.579
good, really tight, sound great. As far as what

00:49:28.579 --> 00:49:30.820
you're talking about, before Dan pulls the plug

00:49:30.820 --> 00:49:35.420
on me here, yeah, I don't care about the documentary.

00:49:37.340 --> 00:49:40.659
So here's my question to you, Brad. Over or under,

00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.260
how many stupid things does Sebastian say on

00:49:43.260 --> 00:49:48.880
stage during M3? I'm going to put the over -under

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.739
at five. Okay. Yeah, I'll try to keep score.

00:49:52.780 --> 00:49:55.199
I'll put Shelly in charge of keeping score. Okay.

00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.880
Because her version of stupid and mine, it might

00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:04.280
not be the same. I was really expecting just

00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.340
to think that he would be just awful and be a

00:50:07.340 --> 00:50:09.400
joke when I saw him there the last time. And

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.519
I sat there and I was like, damn, you know, he

00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:15.179
had a good band. He was really cool. He wasn't

00:50:15.179 --> 00:50:17.239
an asshole. He was just, he was, he was really

00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.639
cool. He loved the crowd. He was just very gratuitous

00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.059
to the whole thing. And, and he sang really well.

00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.420
I was like, all right, cool. I'm giving that,

00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.559
I'm giving Sebastian a big point there. Good

00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.880
job, Sebastian. Keep it up. He must've found

00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.739
the shoes that actually fit that day. And he

00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:38.280
wasn't cranky. Yeah. Not cranky. I'm not a fan

00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:41.039
of Hailstorm and I'm not a fan of Skid Row so

00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.460
much with what they've been doing. But when I

00:50:43.460 --> 00:50:47.340
saw the clip of Lizzy Hale being with Skid Row,

00:50:47.539 --> 00:50:51.639
it worked really well. And I wouldn't, I'd be

00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.880
okay seeing that. She pulled that off, I thought,

00:50:54.980 --> 00:50:58.960
on a video too, not even live in person. Yeah.

00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.460
I was surprised. They're a really good band.

00:51:01.619 --> 00:51:05.820
I mean, they play really well. I mean, and it's

00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:10.809
just. who will be singing, but yeah, but those

00:51:10.809 --> 00:51:12.610
old songs, those old songs really just don't

00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:15.949
hit me. It's I, I don't get all. Ooh. Yeah. And

00:51:15.949 --> 00:51:18.690
especially the, you know, the, the 18 life and

00:51:18.690 --> 00:51:21.250
all that. It's like, Oh God. Then they're done

00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:24.769
it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, I mean, God

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:27.730
bless them for having success and good on those

00:51:27.730 --> 00:51:30.550
guys. They seem like decent dudes. So I'm glad

00:51:30.550 --> 00:51:32.150
it's just, it's just for some reason, it just

00:51:32.150 --> 00:51:38.590
doesn't hit me. 18th singer in life there. Ronnie

00:51:38.590 --> 00:51:41.489
Romero. I'm telling you that any day now they're

00:51:41.489 --> 00:51:47.769
going to announce it. Yeah. Again, we could spend

00:51:47.769 --> 00:51:50.610
a whole show talking about Ronnie Romero. I just,

00:51:50.750 --> 00:51:55.050
and I'll, I'll, I'll end up posting this. I got

00:51:55.050 --> 00:51:57.869
a video of him covering rainbow in the dark,

00:51:57.909 --> 00:52:04.969
something everyone's been waiting for. That's

00:52:04.969 --> 00:52:07.150
sarcasm, right? You just held up your sign? Good

00:52:07.150 --> 00:52:12.650
job, Dan. That is sarcasm. Wait, Dan. Hold on.

00:52:12.750 --> 00:52:16.769
Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Let's get it. Yes.

00:52:17.110 --> 00:52:21.710
Okay. Well, I think he was either going for that

00:52:21.710 --> 00:52:28.980
or a yellow submarine, you know. All right. Enough

00:52:28.980 --> 00:52:32.039
of the covers already. You know, let's... No,

00:52:32.139 --> 00:52:34.179
and if you're going to cover something, you know,

00:52:34.179 --> 00:52:37.300
for as much crap as Metallica gets for covering

00:52:37.300 --> 00:52:40.860
bands, for the most part, they're not covering

00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:45.300
the band's biggest song. The song we've already

00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:51.360
heard 800 ,000 million times on the radio. You

00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.159
know, instead of covering Highway Star, Space

00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:01.679
Trucking, if you're Ace Frehley, Oh, Ace is going

00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.900
to be at M3. And he's releasing another covers

00:53:05.900 --> 00:53:08.440
album. We'll see. We'll see if he's better than

00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.320
the last time he was there where he obviously

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:12.619
had a lot of cough syrup. Yeah, it was cough

00:53:12.619 --> 00:53:15.420
syrup. He was, you know. It was a lot of cough

00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:17.599
syrup. That was like the most ridiculous thing

00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.099
I've ever seen at a live show where, I mean,

00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.559
and M3, they just turned, you know, I get spinning

00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.599
stage and they're turning bands over like that.

00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:27.760
And, but no ACE, they got to come out and they

00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.599
did this huge sound check. And of course, no,

00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.639
no ACE out there, but all his boys, he's got

00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.659
the big crew. And, and it was, it felt like it

00:53:34.659 --> 00:53:37.599
was an hour. And so they got everything right.

00:53:37.659 --> 00:53:39.280
And they hit the stage and nothing was right.

00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:41.719
I mean, everything was, the sound was just awful.

00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.059
It was a disaster. Everybody's like pointing

00:53:44.059 --> 00:53:48.159
at the soundboard, you know, and it was, it was

00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:50.199
a fricking mess. I'm like, if you're going to

00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.340
do it where, where 90 % of the other bands walked

00:53:53.340 --> 00:53:56.420
on stage without a sound check. And they dialed

00:53:56.420 --> 00:53:59.019
him right in, man, and they sounded great. They

00:53:59.019 --> 00:54:02.920
spent an hour just fucking up all the equipment.

00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.579
Here's what I think it was. It's like, we can't

00:54:09.579 --> 00:54:11.940
go on until we wake Ace up. We got to wake him

00:54:11.940 --> 00:54:16.960
up first. So stall, guys, stall. True. Oh, my

00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:21.599
goodness. But here's the thing with that. There

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.630
are a bunch of guys that are. Known for being

00:54:25.630 --> 00:54:30.469
great musicians, great cover band, members of

00:54:30.469 --> 00:54:33.849
cover bands. If Ace can't sing one night, have

00:54:33.849 --> 00:54:36.829
one of the other guys sing. Yeah. Ace is known

00:54:36.829 --> 00:54:40.070
for being a lead guitarist, not being Bruce Dickinson.

00:54:40.809 --> 00:54:43.309
But when I saw him before with the cops there,

00:54:43.349 --> 00:54:45.309
that was Richie Scarlett in the old band. He

00:54:45.309 --> 00:54:49.789
fired him. Okay. So that makes sense. Richie

00:54:49.789 --> 00:54:51.489
Scarlett, bless his heart, man. He should not

00:54:51.489 --> 00:55:00.599
sing. Richie who saw me walk into the Roseland

00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.599
in New York once, and he couldn't take his eyes

00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.119
off me. And I'm thinking, what's going on here?

00:55:06.539 --> 00:55:10.199
And then I went up to him at a KISS convention.

00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.019
And I'm like, yeah, I saw you at the Roseland.

00:55:16.219 --> 00:55:18.000
You know, you kept looking at me. I guess I must

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.340
have reminded, I probably reminded you of somebody.

00:55:20.619 --> 00:55:29.719
I can't remember. My ex -wife. Anyway, point

00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:35.559
number four. Savatage will focus mostly on Zach

00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:40.860
Stevens' era of the band. Is this a smart move?

00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.780
Let's remember, Zach Stevens is fronting the

00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:54.539
band. That's one thing. But when he came into

00:55:54.539 --> 00:55:59.320
the band for Handful of Rain, how many Handful

00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:02.340
of Rain songs were they doing? Maybe four, five

00:56:02.340 --> 00:56:08.880
max live? Everything else was John Oliva stuff.

00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.380
The meat and potatoes of the band, that would,

00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:22.820
I don't know. Again, this is Brian Johnson saying

00:56:22.820 --> 00:56:25.940
he won't sing Bon Scott stuff or Dickinson saying

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:31.280
he won't sing DeAnno stuff. Yes, people know

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.460
who you are. You were the second singer in the

00:56:34.460 --> 00:56:38.280
band. People are champing at the bit to see you,

00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.829
but they want to hear that. John Aliva stuff.

00:56:42.969 --> 00:56:45.769
They want to hear Hall of the Mountain King and

00:56:45.769 --> 00:56:49.710
they want to hear gutter ballet and all that

00:56:49.710 --> 00:56:52.510
classic stuff because that's what got most people

00:56:52.510 --> 00:56:55.750
into the band. And as cool as Handful of Rain

00:56:55.750 --> 00:56:58.889
is and some of the other tracks with Zach on

00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:05.809
it, people are going to want to hear both. How

00:57:05.809 --> 00:57:09.980
about that? Yeah, I saw them back in the day

00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:12.219
when it was the Hall of the Mountain King era

00:57:12.219 --> 00:57:14.559
and all that before the tragedy happened, and

00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:18.980
the band died. It sucks, and it is what it is.

00:57:20.460 --> 00:57:25.739
There's nothing left. It's over. It's just reality.

00:57:26.260 --> 00:57:28.960
The interesting thing, though, what you just

00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.059
said, the band died, but they were smart enough.

00:57:32.809 --> 00:57:36.630
to resurrect the band into a money -making machine,

00:57:36.710 --> 00:57:39.989
which is Trans -Siberian Orchestra. And that's

00:57:39.989 --> 00:57:45.269
not my gig to go to. I want sabotage. No, I agree

00:57:45.269 --> 00:57:50.590
with you 100%, but how many bands have been able

00:57:50.590 --> 00:57:54.269
to kind of pull the phoenix out of the ashes

00:57:54.269 --> 00:57:58.150
and do something completely different like that?

00:57:58.230 --> 00:58:03.539
Absolutely. Took it into a higher level than

00:58:03.539 --> 00:58:06.500
Savatage could probably ever get with sirens

00:58:06.500 --> 00:58:09.199
and all that shit back in the day that was heavy

00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:13.300
and new and not commercially successful at all

00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:15.800
that would never get radio play. Absolutely.

00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.420
They took it to where they wanted to get to make

00:58:18.420 --> 00:58:21.500
a job, make a living. Nothing wrong with that.

00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:26.980
Yeah. I'm all for making money. There you go.

00:58:27.420 --> 00:58:30.000
You just want to become Gene Simmons' roadie.

00:58:30.250 --> 00:58:32.949
You're just admitting to it. Like I said, he's

00:58:32.949 --> 00:58:38.409
got to pay me. I want to make money. I would

00:58:38.409 --> 00:58:41.369
love to hang out with Gene and talk bass, though.

00:58:41.409 --> 00:58:45.050
I really would. Especially since I've been playing

00:58:45.050 --> 00:58:49.309
the first three Kiss albums for the past few

00:58:49.309 --> 00:58:54.420
weeks on bass. I'm telling you, man, these people

00:58:54.420 --> 00:58:57.019
that not kiss, not get songwriters and all that

00:58:57.019 --> 00:58:59.559
stuff. Hell no. Those, those are really cool

00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:03.079
songs and naughty, not super easy. Some of them

00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.639
are, but, but, uh, I mean, there's some really

00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.099
cool stuff in there. So, and the bass playing

00:59:08.099 --> 00:59:12.280
is fantastic. There you go. There you go. Anthony,

00:59:12.380 --> 00:59:16.159
your thoughts on the whole sabotage thing. Uh,

00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.480
I, I, I have nothing to add on this. I don't

00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.659
know enough about them or their, the story. I

00:59:24.659 --> 00:59:28.039
don't know anything about this. All right. So

00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:32.000
last topic of the night. Rush is going to be

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.500
releasing Rush 50 box set celebrating their 50th

00:59:35.500 --> 00:59:42.079
anniversary. So for me, there's two trains of

00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:48.539
thought with this. One, it's kind of cool. But

00:59:48.539 --> 00:59:56.650
at the same time. People take Kiss to task, Ozzy

00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:59.550
to task, Judas Priest to task, you know, about,

00:59:59.590 --> 01:00:02.889
oh, you've done all these re -releases. I think

01:00:02.889 --> 01:00:06.010
Maiden and Rush have done more re -releases than

01:00:06.010 --> 01:00:12.289
any other band ever. And no one ever calls them

01:00:12.289 --> 01:00:16.090
out for it because, and look, God bless them

01:00:16.090 --> 01:00:21.489
if people are still buying the stuff, but. Russia's

01:00:21.489 --> 01:00:24.909
done this how many times? They just recently

01:00:24.909 --> 01:00:28.150
remixed and remastered, what, four or five albums?

01:00:29.369 --> 01:00:34.510
Within the last few years? I mean, I don't know.

01:00:34.630 --> 01:00:38.690
I don't get why some bands get called to task

01:00:38.690 --> 01:00:40.969
for, oh, there's another Greatest Hits album

01:00:40.969 --> 01:00:43.769
or another live album, and then yet, hey, let

01:00:43.769 --> 01:00:48.210
me give you, you know, another variation of Permanent

01:00:48.210 --> 01:00:54.320
Waves. Because on this iteration of the album,

01:00:54.559 --> 01:01:00.559
Peter Collins turned the knob up two -tenths

01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:06.539
of a degree more than the last release of the

01:01:06.539 --> 01:01:10.380
album. So it's been remastered for 2025. This

01:01:10.380 --> 01:01:16.079
is superior to the 2023 version. Sounds like

01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.480
it's not needed. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know,

01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.679
knowing Rush, though, that's one thing is they

01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:24.760
usually don't put crap out there. They usually

01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:29.159
give you something of quality. And let's face

01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:34.260
it, Rush fans, a lot of them have jobs and have

01:01:34.260 --> 01:01:38.940
made money. And they'll be more than happy to

01:01:38.940 --> 01:01:42.260
buy this stuff over and over again. And bless

01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:45.179
their hearts, man. Go for it. I don't have a

01:01:45.179 --> 01:01:47.639
problem with them doing this. And as far as people

01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.940
taking them to task, yeah, you know, there's

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:53.900
the trolls out there. They've got their targets,

01:01:54.059 --> 01:02:00.420
and they're just, you know, yeah. There you go.

01:02:00.699 --> 01:02:05.980
All right. Anthony, your thoughts? Oh, well,

01:02:06.260 --> 01:02:10.159
again, I kind of have no thoughts on this. Like,

01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:14.079
reissues happen all the time, and they come,

01:02:14.219 --> 01:02:17.519
they just. go buy me I don't pay any attention

01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.900
to what like even bands I really like really

01:02:22.900 --> 01:02:26.199
shoot stuff and I just haven't bothered buying

01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.280
it because like you know I have I have the album

01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.900
why do I want to buy it again yeah yeah I've

01:02:33.900 --> 01:02:36.380
embraced the digital subscription thing and I

01:02:36.380 --> 01:02:39.239
download what I need so I can listen offline

01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.170
and take it where I want to go And so if they

01:02:43.170 --> 01:02:45.610
want to put stuff out there, I just go and download

01:02:45.610 --> 01:02:48.670
it. So I'm not going to purchase it anymore.

01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:51.110
It's only going to be, and we've had this discussion

01:02:51.110 --> 01:02:53.949
before, it's only going to be Anthrax, Armored

01:02:53.949 --> 01:02:59.210
Saint, Metallica, Maiden, Roxanne. Bands that

01:02:59.210 --> 01:03:01.449
either need my money to keep it going, and I

01:03:01.449 --> 01:03:04.869
feel like I keep giving them money, like Armored

01:03:04.869 --> 01:03:06.550
Saint with the meet and greets and whatever.

01:03:06.829 --> 01:03:09.510
And I told Joey, I'm here because I want you

01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:12.099
to keep going, man. He said, I appreciate it.

01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:14.659
Yeah. So if they want to put it out there, I'll

01:03:14.659 --> 01:03:17.079
just, I'll just, you know, download it for free

01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:23.840
for free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you, Dan.

01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.179
So yeah, that's, I buy this stuff. Cause I mean,

01:03:26.179 --> 01:03:29.980
yeah, your local bands and stuff like that. You

01:03:29.980 --> 01:03:32.980
got to support Dan. I mean, plus he's, he's always

01:03:32.980 --> 01:03:35.280
helped Victor. You know, he's always been good

01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:37.280
to Victor. So I'll help anybody who's good to

01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.199
Victor. I'm going to, I'm going to buy your stuff.

01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.739
And these dudes, they need some love. But, you

01:03:42.739 --> 01:03:45.980
know, if you want to sell albums, though, I think

01:03:45.980 --> 01:03:47.980
you got to go back to the old days of the B -sides

01:03:47.980 --> 01:03:51.320
of Anthrax putting out that I'm the Man stuff

01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:56.280
and Metallica. And if you want to sell, you make

01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:57.559
it exclusive to the record. You don't put it

01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:01.980
on the subscription. And I, as a fan, love that

01:04:01.980 --> 01:04:08.110
shit. And went to hunt it down, you know. That's

01:04:08.110 --> 01:04:10.630
why I think the record store day stuff, when

01:04:10.630 --> 01:04:14.469
they first started doing it, made sense because

01:04:14.469 --> 01:04:16.650
they were doing that. They were releasing stuff

01:04:16.650 --> 01:04:20.210
exclusively on vinyl. You had to hunt the store

01:04:20.210 --> 01:04:25.429
down where it was available. And if you really

01:04:25.429 --> 01:04:30.489
wanted it, you picked it up. Now, of course,

01:04:30.510 --> 01:04:33.190
the record store where I'm ordering most of my

01:04:33.190 --> 01:04:35.949
stuff, they were smart enough to send me the

01:04:35.949 --> 01:04:40.000
record store. They list two months ago and said,

01:04:40.019 --> 01:04:43.539
hey, this is coming out in April. Anything that's

01:04:43.539 --> 01:04:46.340
in your interest so that we make sure we ordered

01:04:46.340 --> 01:04:50.860
ahead of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some

01:04:50.860 --> 01:04:57.179
stuff I'll pick up. But yeah. I'm also kind of

01:04:57.179 --> 01:05:01.840
at the age now where I don't want any more stuff.

01:05:04.530 --> 01:05:07.750
I've got all the records I bought in my whole

01:05:07.750 --> 01:05:11.730
life still. And I've carried them from here to

01:05:11.730 --> 01:05:16.750
there. I've got probably a thousand CDs down

01:05:16.750 --> 01:05:22.530
there. You know, even down to the real, like,

01:05:22.550 --> 01:05:25.989
I haven't necessarily bought their latest stuff

01:05:25.989 --> 01:05:31.380
because I just still want more things. Maybe

01:05:31.380 --> 01:05:35.219
it's the age for us. As we talked about at the

01:05:35.219 --> 01:05:37.699
beginning of the hour, it's normal. You're with

01:05:37.699 --> 01:05:45.420
all of us the same. I'm saying this when I look

01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:48.139
at Victor there surrounded by things and I hope

01:05:48.139 --> 01:05:54.159
you don't think I'm crazy. No, no, no. I have

01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.000
the CD and I go, where am I going to put this

01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.389
one now? Where do I file this? I got the other

01:05:59.389 --> 01:06:01.650
ones with the under the bed or the under the

01:06:01.650 --> 01:06:08.110
closet. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Having said that,

01:06:08.130 --> 01:06:11.889
I did buy a couple of records recently. We're

01:06:11.889 --> 01:06:15.429
considering upgrading their record player, which

01:06:15.429 --> 01:06:21.050
will only lead to more. You got the fix. Yeah.

01:06:22.869 --> 01:06:27.170
Anthony, there's a lot of people like that. you

01:06:27.170 --> 01:06:30.769
know, with, with streaming becoming a thing that

01:06:30.769 --> 01:06:33.289
I know there's a lot of people that have jumped

01:06:33.289 --> 01:06:36.269
away from collecting things and owning it and

01:06:36.269 --> 01:06:38.110
saying, you know what, I'm already paying for

01:06:38.110 --> 01:06:40.630
this service. Why do I need to have this around

01:06:40.630 --> 01:06:43.230
this? You know, I can get rid of this and have

01:06:43.230 --> 01:06:48.469
more space for something else, you know? So I

01:06:48.469 --> 01:06:53.829
get it. Like, like I do find that I bought a

01:06:53.829 --> 01:06:57.480
lot of things on, uh, Like Bandcamp, for example.

01:06:58.380 --> 01:07:03.619
I buy somebody's album on Bandcamp to support

01:07:03.619 --> 01:07:08.699
them. I totally never play it. I will then stream

01:07:08.699 --> 01:07:13.099
it. But I bought the album, the digital album.

01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.280
It's kind of best of both worlds. Yep, yep. There's

01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.440
an album right over here that's from a local

01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:25.329
band. Had the guitarist and vocalist. come to

01:07:25.329 --> 01:07:29.190
my house and hand deliver it to me. And I paid

01:07:29.190 --> 01:07:32.050
him for it. And I said, Oh, have you listened

01:07:32.050 --> 01:07:34.590
to the vinyl? What's the quality like? And I

01:07:34.590 --> 01:07:38.489
told him after the fact, I'm like, well, my turntable

01:07:38.489 --> 01:07:40.949
kind of sucks, but the digital version on band

01:07:40.949 --> 01:07:46.829
cam sounded pretty good. So, so understand 100%.

01:07:46.829 --> 01:07:53.260
So. So, well, basically, that's where I am with

01:07:53.260 --> 01:07:56.460
reissues. Yeah, yeah, no, that's fine. I mean,

01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:00.960
for me, for example, I have the Fastway album,

01:08:01.059 --> 01:08:04.239
which was just reissued, and I had that sent

01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.599
to me from Ireland. There's this one Irish store

01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:12.099
that every so often has certain reissues that

01:08:12.099 --> 01:08:14.980
other places don't have. And since vinyl has

01:08:14.980 --> 01:08:19.579
just become so expensive, now it has to really

01:08:19.579 --> 01:08:22.659
jump out at me for me to, to pick it up. You

01:08:22.659 --> 01:08:24.340
know, a few years ago it was different. I was

01:08:24.340 --> 01:08:26.640
like, Oh, you know, I'll just get all of these.

01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:32.340
But now, I mean, when you're looking at like

01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:36.939
40 bucks per vinyl and, and I mentioned this

01:08:36.939 --> 01:08:41.079
already, I, I bought Injustice for All on vinyl

01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:49.680
at Walmart for $26. And it costs, 59 euros here.

01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:53.560
The somewhere in time reissue that they just

01:08:53.560 --> 01:09:00.119
had was between 60 to 70 euros here. Walmart

01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:05.800
was selling it this summer for 26, $29. I ordered

01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:07.779
it online and had it shipped to my folks house.

01:09:07.899 --> 01:09:11.520
You know, I'm not. I'm not going to spend that

01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.779
much money. And, and I know that there are people

01:09:13.779 --> 01:09:15.859
that are like, Oh, you know, how, how can you

01:09:15.859 --> 01:09:18.100
buy from Walmart? How can you support it? Well,

01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:22.399
my money, it's my money and how I need to spend

01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:25.039
it. Yeah. I mean, ultimately I'm not going to

01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:29.359
spend, I'm a consumer. Yeah. $70 for somewhere

01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:32.000
in time reissue. I'm sorry. It's a yellow vinyl

01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:38.199
and a poster. It should not be 70 euros. Yep.

01:09:39.020 --> 01:09:46.500
That's true, man. My question now is how many

01:09:46.500 --> 01:09:48.779
people are going to start jumping on like Edgar

01:09:48.779 --> 01:09:51.380
Winterson around the next few minutes saying,

01:09:51.420 --> 01:09:56.479
wait, the show's over. What's going on? Check

01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:02.020
your messages, folks. But anyway, guys, I want

01:10:02.020 --> 01:10:06.899
to thank Metal Dan, Anthony Mackie, Brad Dahl.

01:10:08.569 --> 01:10:13.130
Any other business. What's that, Anthony? We're

01:10:13.130 --> 01:10:15.510
not doing any other business. No, that's it.

01:10:15.789 --> 01:10:18.869
We're done. No more business. What other business

01:10:18.869 --> 01:10:24.050
do you want? Well, I thought the biggest sort

01:10:24.050 --> 01:10:27.949
of rock metal story of the week was the big tool.

01:10:28.569 --> 01:10:32.250
I don't know about this. Tell us about this.

01:10:32.970 --> 01:10:37.409
So let's do that. You know they're big. their

01:10:37.409 --> 01:10:42.409
festival they did in I can't remember the two

01:10:42.409 --> 01:10:46.449
day festival yeah that's right and then they

01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:49.989
ended up playing four songs the same each night

01:10:49.989 --> 01:10:57.949
which for a gig where you had to go both nights

01:10:57.949 --> 01:11:02.550
and for a band like Tool you know those aren't

01:11:02.550 --> 01:11:07.119
short songs I'd say that's very disappointing.

01:11:07.420 --> 01:11:13.180
Now, you know, whatever. I'm not that into them,

01:11:13.180 --> 01:11:15.699
but I could see how it would be very annoying.

01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:22.739
I'm not familiar. They played Fugo. There's a

01:11:22.739 --> 01:11:25.739
class action lawsuit as a result because they're

01:11:25.739 --> 01:11:28.520
known for switching up, not playing the same

01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:33.640
songs on consecutive nights. So to Anthony's

01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.340
point, you flew down to the Dominican Republic

01:11:36.340 --> 01:11:39.180
to see a two -day festival because you had to

01:11:39.180 --> 01:11:43.859
get both days. And they repeated four songs both

01:11:43.859 --> 01:11:46.859
nights. They played the same songs both nights?

01:11:47.539 --> 01:11:50.220
Just four of them. But as Anthony's saying, those

01:11:50.220 --> 01:11:52.939
four songs could actually be a 90 -minute set,

01:11:53.060 --> 01:11:59.180
you know. And they played the second night of

01:11:59.180 --> 01:12:02.390
the festival. They played four of them. In a

01:12:02.390 --> 01:12:08.569
row. Like, could you imagine? That's... But here's...

01:12:08.569 --> 01:12:13.449
The weirdest part about all of this, yes, I get

01:12:13.449 --> 01:12:20.989
that people are upset because of that. But have

01:12:20.989 --> 01:12:25.510
they not been paying attention to what 90 % of...

01:12:25.819 --> 01:12:27.880
all the bands out there have been doing for the

01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:31.460
last 60 years and just playing the same set list

01:12:31.460 --> 01:12:34.600
night after night. I get that tool has always

01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:38.100
been set up. Yeah, but this is different. This

01:12:38.100 --> 01:12:41.880
is totally different. It's like Metallica doing

01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:46.359
their, uh, their two night weekends and imagine

01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:53.060
they come out late. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Metallica

01:12:53.060 --> 01:12:58.750
wouldn't do that. Well, Then again, much to their

01:12:58.750 --> 01:13:01.069
credit, which a lot of people like to crap on

01:13:01.069 --> 01:13:06.029
them, they made a point to do that with the 72

01:13:06.029 --> 01:13:09.689
Seasons tour is that if you were getting tickets

01:13:09.689 --> 01:13:11.850
for both night, you were seeing two completely

01:13:11.850 --> 01:13:13.850
different set lists. They weren't repeating any

01:13:13.850 --> 01:13:18.310
songs. That's fantastic. Yeah. It's incredible.

01:13:19.670 --> 01:13:22.770
Yeah. Get on them. Yeah. No, that sounds like

01:13:22.770 --> 01:13:30.390
bad form for Tool. And, uh, but, um, what were

01:13:30.390 --> 01:13:34.069
they thinking? Anthony, what did you think of

01:13:34.069 --> 01:13:41.069
the whole, uh, mastodon thing? Oh, I, again,

01:13:41.189 --> 01:13:44.210
I, I'm not, I don't, I have one. Okay. I thought

01:13:44.210 --> 01:13:45.909
you were, I thought you were into them. My bad.

01:13:46.189 --> 01:13:51.310
Me too. No, no, I do. I have, I have time for

01:13:51.310 --> 01:13:55.880
them. I'm not a crazy fan. And I was very surprised.

01:13:56.300 --> 01:13:59.479
What happened with them? They split up? No, one

01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.819
of their members left. Yeah. They parted ways.

01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:06.720
They say it's amicable. But it's, I mean, if

01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:09.619
you look at it, it's kind of a big deal. They

01:14:09.619 --> 01:14:13.420
kept the same lineup together for 25 years. Yeah.

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:16.239
You know, you think about, you know, a lot of

01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.140
people say, well, Aerosmith is, but no, well,

01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:22.159
Aerosmith actually took a break. Two guys left.

01:14:22.500 --> 01:14:26.020
They haven't had Joey Kramer for quite a long

01:14:26.020 --> 01:14:30.739
time now as well. There aren't many bands that

01:14:30.739 --> 01:14:36.859
have had the same four guys for 25 years. Yeah,

01:14:36.939 --> 01:14:40.079
they seemed kind of inseparable. Yeah, but I

01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:45.479
think he was kind of the odd guy in the sense

01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.439
that the other three guys are like huge metalheads

01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:52.020
and he's always been like, the resistant one

01:14:52.020 --> 01:14:55.159
that didn't want to be like grouped in with metal

01:14:55.159 --> 01:15:00.180
bands and stuff like that. But you're not exactly

01:15:00.180 --> 01:15:02.699
releasing opera music, you know, you're, you're

01:15:02.699 --> 01:15:06.979
opening for Metallica and iron maiden. And, you

01:15:06.979 --> 01:15:11.439
know, I, I, I don't get the reluctance that you're

01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:14.720
playing heavy music yet. You go out and say,

01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.460
well, I'm not a fan of heavy metal. Well, why

01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:20.579
are you playing a, detuned heavily distorted

01:15:20.579 --> 01:15:24.600
guitar and you're doing guttural vocals that

01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:29.520
isn't exactly like I mean I don't know what I

01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:34.020
don't know I mean his solo music is more in the

01:15:34.020 --> 01:15:38.520
vein of I mean it's weird it's a mix of like

01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:42.960
country and Hawaiian music and and stuff like

01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.399
that but I mean I don't know okay I didn't know

01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:51.729
that about them Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one

01:15:51.729 --> 01:15:54.010
of the knocks that they have is that they started

01:15:54.010 --> 01:15:58.409
out like really heavy. And they've said on a

01:15:58.409 --> 01:16:01.449
few occasions, like Thin Lizzy is one of their

01:16:01.449 --> 01:16:04.430
biggest inspirations, ACDC, KISS, bands like

01:16:04.430 --> 01:16:06.989
that. And they've always said, you know, hey,

01:16:07.010 --> 01:16:10.909
as time goes by, we're going to get closer to

01:16:10.909 --> 01:16:13.850
sounding to these bands more so than getting

01:16:13.850 --> 01:16:20.800
heavy again. I got to give them this. And to

01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:23.920
me, they have their own sound. I mean, when I

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:28.100
hear them, you know it's them. Yeah. And so I

01:16:28.100 --> 01:16:29.300
got to give them that because that's hard to

01:16:29.300 --> 01:16:33.520
do and well and be successful. Yeah, and multiple

01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.800
singers within the band, they don't, although

01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.000
they have guttural vocals, they also have like

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.640
other. vocal styles as well so i mean they've

01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:46.020
mixed it up they've had progressive stuff they've

01:16:46.020 --> 01:16:49.539
had stuff that's more i don't want to say mainstream

01:16:49.539 --> 01:16:54.039
but more like hard rockish and to an extent more

01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:58.399
like almost 70s rock i guess um so you're not

01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:00.960
gonna find yourself in the shower singing that

01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:06.800
um i've i've sung mastodon all over the place

01:17:11.179 --> 01:17:16.500
I've even sung them in concert. I've even sung

01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:21.079
them in concert. All right. So, yeah, Mr. Borat.

01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:29.119
All right. Any other topics you guys want to

01:17:29.119 --> 01:17:32.699
bring up before I rudely cut people off again?

01:17:35.420 --> 01:17:42.890
It slipped my mind. I'm sorry. I just want to

01:17:42.890 --> 01:17:46.810
say that the next time I do anything recording

01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:48.869
-wise or that, I want Dan involved as a producer

01:17:48.869 --> 01:17:51.710
because he knows how to get things done. He'll

01:17:51.710 --> 01:17:55.750
keep us on point. There you go. Well, I just

01:17:55.750 --> 01:18:00.409
thought of something. What about this new Metallica

01:18:00.409 --> 01:18:06.680
Apple film that's coming out? Yeah. It's shot

01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:10.359
on the Vision Pro or, you know, for the Vision

01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:14.479
Pro. Yeah, so it's going to be an AR movie, alternate

01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:19.920
reality movie. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, it's only

01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:26.159
25 minutes long. It's like a... I don't know

01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.739
who's using who in this case, whether it's Apple

01:18:30.739 --> 01:18:36.119
using Metallica to sell Vision Pros or... No,

01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:41.380
it's Apple. I read it was 100 % Apple. They approached

01:18:41.380 --> 01:18:48.619
Metallica to do it. And see, this is where, again,

01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:52.979
we talk about older fans with disposable income.

01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:59.819
I don't know of too many Swifties that could

01:18:59.819 --> 01:19:04.380
get every copy of vinyl of... whatever reissue

01:19:04.380 --> 01:19:06.779
that she's doing is a lot cheaper than getting

01:19:06.779 --> 01:19:11.319
somebody to fork over a $3 ,000 vision pro, you

01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:19.880
know? Um, yeah. So it's. That said, I would love

01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:24.239
to see it. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing.

01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:27.880
I think you'll, you'll be able to see it. like

01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.800
on your, uh, like on your phone or an iPad and,

01:19:30.859 --> 01:19:35.199
and you're theoretically able to see the alternate

01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:43.060
reality, um, almost like a hologram in 3d over,

01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:45.920
over the screen, over your phone or tablet screen,

01:19:46.140 --> 01:19:49.199
but it's not the same as the vision pro obviously.

01:19:50.300 --> 01:19:55.119
Um, I mean, I think I, listen, I think that I

01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:58.119
think a lot of the, alternate reality glasses

01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.560
and and all that stuff that they're working on

01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:04.199
sounds neat in theory it's just that price tag

01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:06.640
is just way out there for me to say you know

01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:10.239
what i'm just gonna spend three grand just to

01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.880
see this cool concert you know as cool as it

01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:18.539
is again i have to win the lottery to do that

01:20:18.539 --> 01:20:23.430
you know it's one of those things It'd be nice

01:20:23.430 --> 01:20:30.289
to be able to rent one for a night watching Metallica

01:20:30.289 --> 01:20:33.449
thing. That's got to be a thing, doesn't it?

01:20:33.510 --> 01:20:34.850
I mean, there's got to be somebody who's doing

01:20:34.850 --> 01:20:39.170
something like that. Yeah, it must be. The problem

01:20:39.170 --> 01:20:42.090
there, too, you look at the other glasses, though,

01:20:42.149 --> 01:20:46.670
like the Metaglasses or the... There's others.

01:20:46.750 --> 01:20:48.449
I don't remember all the names, but there's a

01:20:48.449 --> 01:20:51.430
few others that are... been around for longer

01:20:51.430 --> 01:20:54.710
and more popular than the Apple one. I mean,

01:20:54.729 --> 01:20:58.550
there's still 300, 400, 500, depending on the

01:20:58.550 --> 01:21:03.449
resolution and, uh, and the other just different

01:21:03.449 --> 01:21:06.430
accoutrements that it comes with. That's still

01:21:06.430 --> 01:21:16.850
a lot, you know? So I don't know. I, right. That's

01:21:16.850 --> 01:21:26.310
the thing. So. We'll have to figure it out. We'll

01:21:26.310 --> 01:21:31.430
have to do a search. How many people will end

01:21:31.430 --> 01:21:35.689
up going to an Apple store just to check it out?

01:21:38.829 --> 01:21:42.550
That's a good idea. Let's do that. Let's all

01:21:42.550 --> 01:21:50.010
go together. Cool. All right. This time for real,

01:21:50.090 --> 01:21:55.050
folks. No. No cutting anyone off. No, nothing.

01:21:55.149 --> 01:21:59.710
We're done. We were, we've we're spent. Um, thank

01:21:59.710 --> 01:22:03.350
you. Metal Dan. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, Anthony

01:22:03.350 --> 01:22:06.090
Mackie. Thank you to the five people that were

01:22:06.090 --> 01:22:09.869
watching this live. Uh, and thank you to, uh,

01:22:10.069 --> 01:22:14.510
everyone who checks this out afterwards. And,

01:22:14.590 --> 01:22:19.319
um, yeah, we'll see you next time. Right here

01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:22.579
on Signals from Mars. Folks, we will see you.

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