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Welcome one and all to episode 407 of signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor

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and we are back albeit a few weeks later with the January 2025 albums review

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Jeremy Weltman will be joining me for this episode and hope you guys enjoy

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Alright real quickly here I do

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want to give a shout out to all of the patrons and let's go here in the oldest

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to newest we have Stephen sailor Stephen Hoeker Jeremy Weltman who was featured

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on this episode Mike Jones Brad doll of yarg metal the metal dentist Gabriel

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Ruiz we have Chris vaglio from the song swap showdown we have Jose Ruiz we have

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metal Dan Johann Eddister we have Ed Ferguson Ed the shred we have mr.

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graphic design Anthony Mackie who's created all the great graphic designs

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that you see associated to the show here in 2025 you we have Tony Espin we have

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Chris Sinzak of Despo geek podcast and rockin pod will be happening shortly we

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have Sean Richmond and we have Pascal Schumacher all right thank you all of

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you guys for your support and all of these fine folks are eligible for

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appearing on the next patron special I still call them patron specials because

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the patrons are the ones that appear on screen when we do our voting and

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discussions and in March we're gonna be talking about the ten bands that we

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would nominate for our hard rock or metal Hall of Fame yes I know there's a

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heavy metal Hall of Fame but we're gonna come up with a concept where it is the

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signals from Mars Hall of Fame I'm asking people to vote on the ten basic

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foundation bands that started hard rock and metal they laid the groundwork and

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we'll take it from there this should be a cool yearly vote where we nominate

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bands every year and five bands get in so and there's no hidden agendas there's

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no politics there's nothing out there it's just a bunch of hard rock and metal

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fans voting for bands that they love to talk about music that they love that's

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at the end of the day why I do this I love doing interviews but I also love

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doing these types of conversations where I get to talk to you guys about

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different eras of hard rock and metal in this case for example today Jeremy and

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myself will be discussing releases from January 2025 I think it's vital I think

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it's very important to continue to talk about new music because there's so many

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people out there the discussion is rock is dead new bands have no chance blah

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blah blah there's new bands putting out great new

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music there are old bands that you know putting out great new music and I always

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say this it's not there to take over if it does if it takes over and it becomes

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your favorite album or your favorite song or something along those lines

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that's just awesome but if it's just an additional track to go in that playlist

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featuring one of your all-time favorite bands where you say well it's not my

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favorite song by the band but wow man this this will fit in nicely with the

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rest of their catalog then that's great I mean that's what it's all about I think

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and if there's anything that you ever hear us discuss that you enjoy support

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the bands by picking up the music I know it gets harder and harder to do it every

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day but if you can pick up a CD you can pick up vinyl if you're a fan of vinyl

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or cassette do that anyway go to signals from Mars calm for all your one-stop

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shopping when it comes to this show you can check out the merch the YouTube all

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the social media pages all that great stuff that's associated to the show I do

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thank you for being here today and for checking this episode out

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and I totally skipped over this but if you want to vote on the signals from Mars

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Hall of Fame send me your list signals from Mars at signals from Mars calm if

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not if you frequently talk to me on any social media platform send me whatever

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message you want regarding this and I always tell people the same thing well

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ten bands I think will be easy this isn't the same as if we're talking about

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different genres or whatnot but anyway last point yes I know I released the

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video version of this a few weeks ago I haven't been able to release this sooner

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been working on the rockin pod stuff been working on a lot of other stuff as

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well so I do apologize for that but the episode is is up there now as you're

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listening to this it is live it is there for your audio enjoyment so I do hope

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you enjoy the show thanks again for listening

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welcome all to the latest episode of signals from Mars I'm your host Victor

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and joining me is Jeremy Jeremy how are you yeah really good Victor thanks been

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listening to actually a lot of black Sabbath this week maybe we'll get on to

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that a little bit later how are you doing perhaps I am I'm doing good a lot

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of things going on in the world of hard rock and metal and a lot of stuff for us

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to definitely chat about let's see here trying out some new things today trying

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out some new things with the chat and we'll see if anyone joins us see if we

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can try some of these new features out I did mention it in patreon I did mention

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this during the latest episode that that I uploaded today with Eric Kluver the

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audio version for those that are still doubting about joining our patreon I've

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made 5270 posts on patreon Wow Wow since the start so okay so apparently let's

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see here do I need to keep the overlay open

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there's Brad Brad sorry to Brad just type in the chat let's see hello Brad

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interesting so yeah three people are in the chat it says me included and hey

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there's Tony Espin how are you Tony hope you're doing great and let's see why

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isn't this showing up this is live folks this is live we are testing things on

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the fly here it's all happening live have to do a sing and dance act in a

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minute just to keep everyone entertained all right anyway so this isn't working

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so I will try this out further this is a third-party plug-in which works some

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interesting content into what we do with the live stream doesn't seem to be

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working at the moment but we will continue on so anyway Jeremy and myself

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we are back for another monthly installment of our albums of the month

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review we are reviewing January of 2025 in this case and there were a lot of

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stellar albums to be released some weeks are better than others as Jeremy and I

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were just discussing off-air but yeah so January 3rd is officially the first week

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that things were released and there was really nothing to discuss I mean there

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were a few albums released but well we tried a few didn't we but um nothing

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we'd recommend I'd say yeah unfortunately and listen there's there's

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a lot of death metal out there that comes out on a weekly basis some stuff

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some of you may be interested in some of you may not so who knows so we try our

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best to cover everything that we're into and we get it we don't get around to

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absolutely everything but I do think that we do a fair job with with what we

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do so anyway January 10th we had releases from from Monty that's Mark

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Tramonti of Alter Bridge and Creed he released the end will show us how the

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halo effect March of the unheard stick to your guns keep planting flowers moon

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wizard with sirens he pees from ex-do reissues from two from nine treasures

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one from cave-in one from tesseract and a live album from Magnum which is live at

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KK steel mill which is a KK Downing's place is that still place or did he

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sell it sorry I didn't quite catch what you said is it still his place yeah did

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he sell it well that's a good question I'm not entirely certain of that but

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I've got a feeling he still owns it yeah okay I thought he had gotten into some

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financial trouble and maybe I no longer had it I think the financial trouble was

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a little bit before that he sold his golf his golf course and various things

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that you know he's doing at the time I think this was the new thing that he got

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into after that okay I thought this was part of the golf course but anyway all

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right does does not matter yeah

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well so just so you guys know and for Brad Tony even yourself Jeremy the

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question that should have popped up was which city or country did you attend

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your first rock show oh first rock show well for me it was definitely in the UK

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and the city was Chester okay do you remember the show yeah I do the show was

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Chevy limelight and alien a triple bill at a place called Northgate Arena and

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it was during the sort of new Obam era okay Brad is asking how far steel mill

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is from you Jeremy? How far is the steel mill yeah well the steel mills in Wolverhampton and I'm in

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Northwich in Cheshire so I'm estimating here we're looking at around sort of

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what 40 miles 45 miles at most that sort of distance not not too far you'd

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probably be there with within an hour okay okay cool

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that's funny all right anyway so out of these Jeremy you listen to quite a few

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of these albums yeah yeah I listen to a few I mean it you know is a fairly lean

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start to the month I suppose but you know we go from non in week one to at

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least two studio albums in the second week for me and the live release which

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I'll mention in a minute I mean the first one I listened to was the end will

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show us how the tremonti album you know I've got a sort of vague recollection of

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actually seeing this band live at Down Low Festival it was quite you know a

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number of years ago may have been sort of after they were formed because I

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think they formed around 2011 or 2010 or something so it's probably not long

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after that I mean I have to admit though it's not my normal sort of go-to style of

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hard rock and metal it's not my favorite I find it a little bit dreary it's

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probably that you know the tuning of the songs to me as much as a style but I do

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recognize that you know there's some really serious music musicianship and

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songwriting ability on the on this kind of record as you might expect it reminds

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me a lot of Alter Bridge and I think you know this sort of music does push the

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boundaries a little bit at times as well so I like that feature of it you know

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the guitars and vocals they do sound great on it it must be said and it's

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very well mixed and produced as well so you know I'll give it thumbs up for that

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I guess it might be a bit of a grower but it doesn't quite hit the spot for me

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it's not you know not my favorite type of music but I get it if you like

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Tremonti and fans of the band will go out and listen to it you know I get that

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I moved on to Magnum I listened to live at KK Steel Mill this was actually the

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last show they played last year before as you know guitarist and songwriter

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extraordinaire Tony Clark in unfortunately passed away so for

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Magnum fans like me you know it's a real special release really it was a precursor

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as well to actually seeing the band the rest of the band as they are a few you

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know I only saw them a few weeks ago in Manchester they arranged sort of five

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dates as a tribute to Clark in I enjoyed that and I enjoyed this album as well

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you know there's nothing much to say about the album really it's a you know

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it's a real sort of mix of the true classics of the 1980s heyday and what I

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would say are fairly stodgy new songs you know some of them you know they're

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not so great I think as compared to the you know the stuff they used to do and

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but anyway I like to remember them as they were and I think they were a great

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band in the day so my pick this week might surprise you a little bit Victor

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I'm gonna opt for sirens by Moon Wizard this is a this is a self-produced album

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by a stone and doom band from Salt Lake City Utah now I cannot think of anyone

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I've ever known who's ever lived in Utah can you Victor no who do we know that

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lives in you they used to live in Utah yeah I can't think of anyone so I'm

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sure nobody actually lives there or has ever lived there but like the Swedish

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band which this group has a female singer and that kind of adds a bit of

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freshness into the sort of doom genre for me as well you know it's not it's

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not a spectacular album and it's and I wouldn't say it's entirely unique either

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but you know there are sort of and you know sort of a lot of similarities to

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to other bands in there which we you know we get from time to time with

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various stuff I feel it's got a bit of a slowed down Sanhedrin feel to it you

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know another sort of great US act which I like and you know there's a little bit

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of blues pills in there as well that sort of type of sound a little bit and

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you know there's a lot of sort of early I owe me s guitars in there a little bit

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of early guitar draw from the cults that sort of thing so you know you kind of

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get what I'm what I'm talking about the really good song called Luminair and you

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know as it went on I sort of realized the really you know there weren't a lot

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of fillers on this album it was really I really started to dig it a lot and so

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yeah I'm gonna choose that one as my album of the week okay cool

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Tony you said you mentioned that your first show was in Barcelona do you

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remember who played at that show Brad has responded that his first rock show

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was Long Beach Sports Arena with BoC Kansas and Ted Nugent

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obviously the greatest American rock band of all time Brad is also saying

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Utah where wizards are wizards and sheep are nervous okay now we need to check

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these guys out so I wonder if I switch back to the overlay here

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okay so Tony's first show was Baron Rojo with Santa opening free show cool so

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coincidentally my first show was not a rock show and it was a free show and it

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did involve the Gypsy Kings with two other pop acts was at the Queens County

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Fair back in 86 ish something like that I guess first rock show I mean I've I

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saw bands here in Spain I wouldn't call them I mean they were probably rock

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infused but maybe kind of rockabilly ish but not so much straight-up hard rock or

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anything like that first thing was probably sacred

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right with souls at zero and crowbar actually was it so is it zero crowbar

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man I'm not remembering

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sounds a good show

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yeah that was at the legendary studio one or infamous studio one in Newark New

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Jersey let's see so so this is funny it says one word what emotion does heavy

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metal evoke for you Brad let's see this is the question hmm good question all

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right so you picked moon wizard for me or January 10th yeah I need more than

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that I think and I don't want to get into conspiracy theories but I think I

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need to reset the clock and I won't say it anyway so January 10th I listened to

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the tremonti spot-on I mean his solo stuff seemed to be heavier than than

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what he had done with alter bridge but this really I mean the first two singles

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are alright but then after that I mean the rest of the album is just kind of

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same Z for me hmm stick to your guns keep planting flowers a little of

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everything a little hardcore little thrash a lot of screaming some cool

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melodies here and there it's not a bad album but I'm gonna go with the halo

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effect the march of the unheard this is their second album I've posted a bunch

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of videos off of this album and I do think that they've they've taken the the

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band a step further there are some clean vocals on here which is what I was

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hoping for especially after hearing cemetery skyline and I think the

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musicianship is up on this so I'm really happy with it cool so alright so I wish

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I could share what this says on screen it's supposed to work and display what

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I will just read it to you so the question was one word what emotion does

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heavy metal evoke for you and Brad said power

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so very cool I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with joy joy yeah okay so I'm gonna

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input that for you there we go give you a halo effect song to check out okay let

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me go into my trusty 2025 playlist last song played on here was Smith Cotson by

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the way actually enjoy that new song more than a lot of the stuff that they

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released on that first album hmm I remember you let you describe the first

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album as a little muddy I think that was what you you said at the time yeah I was

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I was expecting something different to be honest hmm because me and Mike liked

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it and bought it right but I know what you're saying I know what you're saying

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it's that's that sort of muddy production to it that's not the one

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that's not the one

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come on damn it play the last one this curse of silence is the one that I

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really like so this curse of silence by the halo effect so let's see how that

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affects the algorithm here okay all right

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next question I'm gonna be throwing out there for you guys in a few words how

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has hard rock or heavy metal influenced your personal music journey cracking

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questions is yeah so let's move on to January 17th here we had releases from

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Tokyo Blade the big deal dunes dragon knight godzillionaire grave digger

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landfall hazard Nesdom echoes reissues from the Torah and Buck cherry live

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albums from Dark Fortress and Steve Hackett as well as a compilations album

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from wasp the seven savage 1984 through 1992 box set out on mad fish first time

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I've ever heard of that label so Jeremy what did you listen to this week yeah

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just to say actually that wasp is on it's just been released on CD because I

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already had it on vinyl so I bought that box set and it's fantastic but yeah

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they just released on CD for those who want it on CD so yeah this week I

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listened to a band called the big deal it's an album called electrified and you

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know with a name like the big deal you'd expect them to be good well it's a

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frontiers release so of course it's very melodic there are two female singers

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called Anna Nikolic and Navina Brankovic okay and I guess with this one you need

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to sort of imagine what ABBA might have gone on to do if they've done melodic

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metal because this is ABBA doing metal so the voices are almost identical and

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the songs have really great hooks you know in that sort of ABBA style but less

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cheesy just think you know they've got rid of all that cheese but by the way

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this band does in no way does it hail from Sweden which is surprising because

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you'd expect it to as 99% of heavy metal bands these days seem to come from

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Sweden they're actually from Serbia and the girls can really sing there was you

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know a bit of sort of Mark Stanway Magnum style keyboards in among there

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there's some very decent guitar solos some very sort of classic guitar riffs

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and it was very entertaining you know more entertaining than a symphonic metal

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outfit and you know I I get it if it's not your thing you know this sort of

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music doesn't appeal to all metal fans out there but you know I really enjoyed

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it so it was you know it's good fun but I went on to to listen to Tokyo Blade

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with the time is the fire not banned from Japan of course they hailed from

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England and you know they were founded back in 1982 can you believe that during

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the the new wave of British heavy metal movement movement or at least just as it

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got going a bit most of the members as well I didn't realize are either sort of

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original or part of the band in the 80s including Alan Marsh who's you know

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vocals sort of give it a bit of a I'd say a bit of a tight modern Tigers of

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Pantang sound because I think he sounds very similar to what they're doing I

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think the you know the album itself sort of follows a very sort of familiar path

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you know the hard-hitting guitars very sort of solid powerful production on it

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I'd say the vocals do great a little bit to to me at times but it's you know

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it's a fairly solid effort from a you know very genuine band you know I'd be

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sort of happy to see this band live you know in a small arena or supported a

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bigger band standout songs for me on this well I like the creepy sounding man

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on the stair I liked also the enemy within and then I realized that the two

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songs are actually have a very very similar beats and sound to them so they

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sounded to too much the same but that slight oddity aside you know I found

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that you know they had some a lot of decent tunes on this and in a week in

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which you know I couldn't really pick much else I yeah I think it's it's a

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worthy pick of the week okay and just so you know Tokyo Blade at one point had

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Chris Gillen who is the singer of overloaded the Detroit band who Eric

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Kluber my recent guest on the show was a part of so so yeah so there's our one

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Tokyo Blade connection to this show six degrees of connecting the Tokyo Blade

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there you go all right so let's see for me and where's my notation here okay

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here we go for me I checked out Dune's land of the blind I checked out

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gazillionaires diminishing returns both on ripple and both on number one and

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number two on the doom charts I saw earlier today also checked out

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gravediggers bone collector that's on reigning Phoenix heard an interview

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recently on Chris Aiken presents which I really enjoyed so it made me want to

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check that one out and that's the grave digger isn't bad it's it's really a

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throwback to you know new album influenced the 80s heavy metal basically

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it's power metal it's it's not bad but for me Dune's land of the blind just

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just fit the bill more you know I'm probably a bigger fan and they're

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perfectly

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with a lot of whether that's that's anything else so so yeah so so Dune's is

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my pick once again the album is Dune's land of the blind all right January 24th

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we had new releases from bonfire wilderness labyrinth avitarium black

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toothed bumblefoot the ferryman Harry Carrey from the sky

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Vukovic EP from Oni reissue from August Burns Red and a live album from

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Riverside Jeremy what did you check out this week yeah the month started badly

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for me with these sort of raw and almost laughable attempt at new wobblin by

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ice war called venom sadly the singer was very amateurish and I couldn't

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really hack it beyond track 2 so nothing more about that one up next was a trio

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of frontiers albums Avenger by Wilderness I listened to in the vanishing echoes of

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goodbye by labyrinth and the latest effort by bonfire of course titled

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higher ground all three of these albums were very nicely produced as you'd kind

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of expect from the from the label Wilderness are actually a band I know

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very little about they're Swedish of course a bog standard sort of melodic

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hard rock outfit that's you know about a decade old now it was a very nice

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listen it wasn't very you know wasn't spectacular I really thought the

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labyrinth album was a lot better they described themselves as a you know an

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Italian power metal outfit I think there had looked such more progressive than

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the sort of average power metal acts they keep it heavy as well which I like

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I like Roberto Tyranti or Rob tyrant as he's known on vocals and you know the

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band comes up with some you know fairly epic and really engaging tunes so if

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you like sort of firewind you like sons of Apollo as I do this album will you

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know definitely appeal but you know bonfire there are obviously a well-known

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band for all those metal freaks hard rock freaks I guess I mean it's not long

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really since I purchased their first three albums which they re-recorded with

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with the current lineup I didn't have them previously so I thought I'd you know

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I purchased those and I played them a lot to be honest that you know a great

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deal probably what certainly every month you kind of know what you're gonna get

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with bonfire I mean for the most part this album is very solid you know the

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opening track I will rise is a very typical solid sort of guitar work super

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melodies on it and then the next one higher ground you know has this sort of

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old style accepts except sort of style riff to it there's a ballad of course on

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the album and there's a you know sort of metal II do me a offering with come

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hell or high water which I liked as well it's a really great listen overall I

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mean not every songs a killer which you know you don't get on every album anyway

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but I like the band and you know it's a really easy pick for me this is this is

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definitely pick of the week all right so while Jeremy was speaking here I did

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upload the next question which is which sub genre do you prefer oh you have to

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input one of the following numbers to vote one is thrash two is death metal

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three is black metal four is doom metal five is power metal six is glam metal

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seven is prog metal and eight is other which is in the lead right now that's

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what and you know why it's other because Brad is voting for prancey dancy

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keyboard metal that's why all right Jeremy is entering five here

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power about all right cool of course

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let's see here okay so for me I checked out between you God the devil and the

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dead by avatarium checked out black toothed the black toothed album headway

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checked out the ferryman iron will that is one of Ronnie Romero's several

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projects never heard of him well you've heard of him never never heard of yeah

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one of the questions next week will probably be which which band of Ronnie

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Romero's do you prefer Harry Carey from the sky or yeah hair hair a kare from

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the sky my bad scorched earth Vukovic my god has got a gun and let's see an EP

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by Oni reissue from I said this all already all right what am I read why am

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I reading this over again see this is why I can't do more than one thing at

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once Jeremy I'm I'm thinking about the polls I'm thinking about this so I

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listen to the avatarium album I listen to the black toothed album I listen to

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the ferryman album and I listen to the

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Heracra from the sky have you say it and Vukovic and I just make sure I have this

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correct here yeah okay so out of all of these what kind of spoke to me was the

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Vukovic album there were elements of of industrial and electronic metal in this

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just something that I've always been a fan of and as a result it's it's what I

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went with the ferryman to be honest with you just bored me hmm I mean Magnus

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Carlson is a very talented songwriter but he's trying to out frontiers frontiers

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with this hmm he was a staff writer for for a long time and I don't know there's

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I just me personally I thought it was the musicianship is great but just kind

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of didn't speak to me and given the components there you know I would I was

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expecting something different the avatarium album had some things you know

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here and there that were cool but for the most part I'd have to go with the

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Vukovic album so there you go all right this brings us to I forgot to mention

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that there was a tiger tails compilation that was the UK's one true

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hair metal band that stood out above all the rest so they released for a few

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dollars with a Z at the end more the archon's volume 184 to 91 I miss that

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I'm gonna get my stripy trousers out tomorrow and give that a listen there you

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go all right so for the 31st we had albums from the city is ours the

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helicopters the night flight orchestra pentagram all that remains saliva Kelsey

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Carter and the heroines jay jail rats of Gomorrah relics of humanity Kilmara

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Jonathan Holton black talent live album from Hawk wind and the very best of

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deal volume to released on a picture disc so what did you listen to this week

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Jeremy yep I started out listening to anti fragile the studio album number 10

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by all that remains as you know they're from Springfield Massachusetts I can't

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honestly say it's a band that checked out that much before but I you know I

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thought I'd give it a listen you know there's a real mixture of growly and

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clean vocals which you know I don't always like a lot of generic stuff in

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there as well but you know overall it wasn't bad but you know there were a few

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boundaries pushed which you know kind of like sometimes and maybe a bit more

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interesting but sadly you know as is kind of typical with this type of band

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there just wasn't enough there to make me you know fully interested in that

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album but hey you know I gave it a listen scenes of agony by black Talon

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was more of my thing really it was a it's a kind of a bog standard thrash act

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from Edinburgh in Scotland I like some of the songs here and you know the

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anthrax they had a sort of bit of an anthrax II thing going on with a song

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called obnoxion for obnoxion but the problem was with the album it was really

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let down by the production they I mean obviously the production budget was

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about nine pounds 99 which is a real a real shame I you know they can't help it

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they haven't got any money to spend on it you know it's not their fault but it

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sounds a bit very tinny very thin the drums sound like plastic pots that you

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know from the kitchen and you know we know of one Metallica album that sounded

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like that so hey you know they're not far behind but you can't fault the band's

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enthusiasm and that's what I like about thrash band sometimes as well you know

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the desire to just do something a little bit more interesting with the thrash

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genre as well which was which is good good you know so yeah it was it was fun

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and what I would say is that anyone who likes this band you sort of you know you

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you kind of like them but you're not willing to go out and purchase the album

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because it sounds a bit badly produced just go out and see them live because

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they're gonna be a fun night out and you know that's what I would always say about

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bands if you you know you don't like the albums just go out and support them so

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that that was quite good but the album that is my album of the week goes to the

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doom metal band pentagram had a you know as you know a sort of stop-start career

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going way back to even the 1970s really when they first started up this one's

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called lightning in a bottle it's only their ninth studio album I believe since

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they started it wasn't it's not superb but I really enjoy the you know the

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guitar riffs it's got that sort of quintessential 70s edge to it which I

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liked I like this the song dull pain had a you know it had the guitar solo in it

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which I think you should listen to and tell me if it doesn't sound like Jimi

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Hendrix is all along the watchtower because I think it sounds very very

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similar I was trying to think for ages as well what does this sound like you

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know as you do and I think it went a minute that's I'm sure that's all on

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watch I've not gone back and listened to Jimmy afterwards but I'm gonna do that

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and I'm sure it's there's a lot of similarity let's say I think Bobby

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Liebling who's the vocalist his voice has aged obviously because you know the

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band would be going a long time and he sounds a little bit like the UK band

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Demon which we reviewed recently so it's that sort of you know sort of what I would

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say just an aged very sort of deep voice which is not to everybody's not

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everyone's cup of tea but you know I quite enjoyed it so yeah the the

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guitarist Tony Reid you know really good and definitely a worthy album that we

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okay I got to listen to that album by pentagram as well I listened to all

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that remains anti-fragile as well what else the helicopters over driver got a

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chance to listen to the night flight orchestra give us the moon if you've

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listened to any other night flight orchestra albums you've already heard

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this album listen they've got some cool stuff they've released over the years

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but at this point album number whatever it is and still doing the same thing I

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don't know I've had enough with the other stuff and I'm looking forward to

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the next oil work album personally let's see I enjoyed the the pentagram album I

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liked a lot of the music to it hmm there's definitely some weird melodies

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though like some interesting melodies with what Bobby's doing there there are

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some things it's interesting I watched today the a drum EO video where Kenny

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Arnoff is playing the old yes song changes and just seeing how he interpreted

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that song it was interesting how he found like different rhythm patterns

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listening to the music as opposed to what Alan White the original drummer did

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on that album and this is kind of similar where I was hearing the riffs and

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hearing the music come in and I was thinking wow this would be really you

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know this is gonna be really neat and then Bobby starts singing I'm like yeah

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that's kind of slower than what I was anticipating you know so it's good album

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I get why you picked it as album of the week

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helicopters album it's funny I have to agree with Johan because Johan I

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believe thinks that they're a very overhyped band he's always said if I'm

425
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:24,180
not mistaken that he doesn't really get them and this album just totally lost me

426
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:29,500
like there was I think the first single is really the only thing that I like off

427
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:38,620
of it my pick of the week is actually anti-fragile by all that remains all

428
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:45,060
that remains oh usually seems to have two three songs that mix the right

429
00:47:45,060 --> 00:47:51,700
amount of melody with the right amount of heaviness for me and it's kind of on

430
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:56,540
par with that and there's two songs off of this that will slot in nicely in my

431
00:47:56,540 --> 00:48:04,780
all that remains playlist so personally I am happy to make this my pick of the

432
00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:13,180
week so quickly here I'll go back through the picks that we did have the

433
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:18,660
first week that we jumped on into January 10th Jeremy picked moon wizard

434
00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:27,420
or sirens by moon wizard I picked the halo effect March of the unheard for

435
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:36,420
where he 17th Jeremy picked time is the fire by Tokyo Blade I went with land of

436
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:46,380
the blind by dunes January 24th Jeremy went with higher ground by bonfire and I

437
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:55,900
went with my god has got a gun by Vukovic and from January 31st Jeremy

438
00:48:55,900 --> 00:49:01,540
went with lightning in a bottle by pentagram and I went with anti-fragile

439
00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:14,380
by all that remains cool so let's see Tony here saying subject to a new

440
00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:19,460
episode by Martin pop-off history in five songs which five songs mean

441
00:49:19,460 --> 00:49:31,540
everything for Tony Espin through the years okay what five songs tell us Tony

442
00:49:31,540 --> 00:49:37,100
what your five songs are tell us what your five songs are let's see what other

443
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:44,300
interactiveness is here I think it actually did post one of the things

444
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:55,580
that's interesting so I'm seeing a spinning wheel what one of these typical

445
00:49:55,580 --> 00:50:05,380
like carnival wheels on my end and it says which sub-genre should we discuss

446
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:10,940
today should we explore today the options were thrash doom glam metal

447
00:50:10,940 --> 00:50:17,940
power metal progressive metal and black metal and it fell on glam metal but

448
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:20,260
anyway

449
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:31,340
you see how this works here okay I could have just done that by clicking that

450
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:39,500
okay so Tony says need some time to go through the years from 82 so you only

451
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:50,460
know time cool so let's discuss some other things that have been going on

452
00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:59,240
let's see here if the chat loads real quick here and see if this graphic

453
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:10,020
loads it does not all right anyway let us continue so there are some cool

454
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:15,700
things that I do want to integrate so we're gonna move on to some other

455
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:19,180
interesting topics

456
00:51:19,180 --> 00:51:34,820
all right so the final ever show by apparently black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne

457
00:51:34,820 --> 00:51:45,140
will be taking place on July 5th at Villa Park in Birmingham in the UK back

458
00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:51,140
to the beginning geezer Butler Tony I owe me Ozzy Osbourne and Bill Ward so

459
00:51:51,140 --> 00:51:56,300
there will be performances by black Sabbath Ozzy Osbourne Metallica Slayer

460
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:06,500
Pantera Gojira Allison Chains hailstorm lamb of God anthrax mastodon additional

461
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:11,340
performances from Billy Corgan of the smashing pumpkins Dave David Raymond

462
00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:18,780
of disturbed Duff McKagan Fred Durst of limp biscuit Lizzy Hale Jakey Lee

463
00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:27,340
Jonathan Davis corn KK downing Mike Borden of faith no more Papa V from from

464
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:35,500
ghost Rudy Sarzo Sammy Hagar slash sleep token to from sleep token Tom Morello

465
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:43,900
and Wolfgang Van Halen tickets go on sale next Friday Valentine's Day and all

466
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:51,020
proceeds will be donated equally to the following charities cure Parkinson's

467
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:57,580
Birmingham Children's Hospital and acorn Children's Hospice a Children's

468
00:52:57,580 --> 00:53:09,300
Hospice supported by Asin Villa so can I close this there we go okay cool

469
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:15,180
Jeremy your thoughts on this Wow yeah I mean there's a lot of thoughts on this

470
00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:20,220
maybe we just pick it apart piece by piece I mean the first thing just to say

471
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:24,620
is I'm so chuffed that they're supporting some charities with this you

472
00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:28,660
know all the profits going to charity so that's great I mean I think that helps

473
00:53:28,660 --> 00:53:32,780
as well to persuade people to buy tickets to something where they might

474
00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:38,220
only see three or four songs by black Sabbath being played live you know we're

475
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:42,980
obviously not gonna see an hour and a half of Sabbath out there but it's an

476
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:49,780
amazing bill of it's a sort of a tribute act a heavy metal I guess it's a tribute

477
00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:54,980
to the heavy metal genre as much as it is to black Sabbath and we've got to

478
00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:59,820
remember you know all the members of black Sabbath now are either 75 or 76

479
00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:05,020
years old so they're all cracking on never mind Ozzy you know with his ill

480
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:09,780
health as we know Tony I only sat a bit of cancer as well I don't know if you've

481
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,580
seen geezer Butler lately but he looks as if he's aged about 20 years in the

482
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:20,260
last three so you know that this is it this is the last chance to see them live

483
00:54:20,260 --> 00:54:27,060
together I think even if Ozzy's very unwell he'll be sitting down he'll be

484
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:33,020
helped as we know you know there's gonna be a lot of musical help there's a lot

485
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:39,740
of great acts on who are gonna fill in if something does happen you know say

486
00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:43,860
for instance Ozzy can't sing at all or he's so unwell that he can't turn up for

487
00:54:43,860 --> 00:54:49,700
this Tony will play with Bill and geezer and I'm sure they'll get another singer

488
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:54,660
in to sing some of the songs I've got a feeling the the All-Star band that they've

489
00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:59,580
sort of set up is gonna play just Sabbath songs they're gonna probably

490
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:03,420
play the Sabbath songs that Sabbath aren't gonna play so it's all very

491
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:07,940
choreographed I mean as you know Tom Morello is acting as the musical

492
00:55:07,940 --> 00:55:12,900
director for the whole thing and he's gonna make sure that it's all really

493
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:18,300
well done so I think it's gonna be great I mean it's in their home home city it's

494
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:23,860
in their home region of the city in Aston as you know geezers a big fan of

495
00:55:23,860 --> 00:55:27,300
Villa and I think a few of the others you know they all they all like Villa

496
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:33,260
even if they don't sort of go so it's gonna be great and I'm yeah I'm hoping

497
00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:39,500
to get a ticket I really hoping to get one next week yeah and I hope they I

498
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:43,220
hope they record it as well because I think everyone should see you know the

499
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:47,780
last performances I also think that maybe just to add something I think Tony

500
00:55:47,780 --> 00:55:53,100
oh Tony will actually play a little bit of his own bits to start with as well

501
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,580
before Ozzy comes on because I think Ozzy is only gonna last three four

502
00:55:56,580 --> 00:56:01,420
songs at most so I've got feeling Tony might play a you know maybe a solo bit

503
00:56:01,420 --> 00:56:08,740
before maybe even playing with with some of the other singers yeah that's

504
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:16,620
based on what I've heard because Andy Copping is that the guy's name the guy

505
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:28,380
that does download he he he said he mentioned the Tamarillo bit and he's

506
00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:32,580
already said that the other musicians and there will be more people that will

507
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:38,940
be announced will be playing with different bands and in different you

508
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:44,500
know configurations so I'm actually thinking similar to what you're saying I

509
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:52,340
think Sabbath is gonna play paranoid Iron Man and

510
00:56:52,340 --> 00:57:03,260
Warpigs yeah I was trying to figure Warpigs or Children of the Grave yeah

511
00:57:03,260 --> 00:57:07,460
one of the one of the biggies I'm thinking Children of the Grave is

512
00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:16,820
probably easier to play yeah they've already played Sabbath has already played

513
00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:22,580
with Mike Borden on drums before so that's not a stretch there at all hmm

514
00:57:22,580 --> 00:57:31,380
I'm guessing that since it's gonna be Ozzy's last show we're gonna see Jake

515
00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:36,100
is there we're gonna hear bark at the moon plate yeah and crazy don't bark at

516
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:40,420
the moon with him yeah yeah definitely I'll be surprised a crazy train is not

517
00:57:40,420 --> 00:57:46,100
gonna be played as crazy train has to be played as well and then as you're saying

518
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:50,780
I think we're gonna get songs from throughout the catalog a lot of these

519
00:57:50,780 --> 00:57:56,700
bands have covered Sabbath already Anthrax has Metallica has so I think

520
00:57:56,700 --> 00:58:04,620
that's where we're gonna get some of that is as well if you think he's gonna

521
00:58:04,620 --> 00:58:07,500
sit there and play changes with his daughter as well do you think she'll

522
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:11,780
come on and play could be and the other thing they've said Ozzy can't walk

523
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:18,860
anymore yeah he said his voice is fine but he just can't walk anymore yeah but

524
00:58:18,860 --> 00:58:24,820
do you remember the Commonwealth Games in 2022 yeah and he was propped up with

525
00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:28,940
a stick there was kind of like a you know physical stick that hell he was

526
00:58:28,940 --> 00:58:33,540
strapped to yeah either he's gonna that's gonna happen again or he's gonna

527
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:41,020
be sitting I think after seeing Phil Collins singing sitting hmm we will we

528
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:50,540
will see that yeah so yeah and it's it's interesting because let's pull this

529
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:53,820
lineup back up again

530
00:58:53,820 --> 00:59:05,460
yes layer has done Sabbath Pantera has done Sabbath mm-hmm

531
00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:18,140
Anthrax has their there won't be an issue with getting people to do some of

532
00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:22,340
this stuff it's interesting also the Tom Morello lists is listed close to the

533
00:59:22,340 --> 00:59:32,740
bottom so he's really not taking any type of he's really not propping himself

534
00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:37,940
up which I think is kind of cool yeah the other interesting thing for me is I

535
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:41,860
mean you got Metallica there as a kind of a support act which obviously is is

536
00:59:41,860 --> 00:59:45,820
strange in itself because they're they're so massive themselves and I'm

537
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:49,460
wondering whether do you think they'll actually play any of their own songs or

538
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:54,900
do you think they'll just play Sabbath songs I think we're gonna get Metallica

539
00:59:54,900 --> 01:00:04,220
playing sabra cadabra which they have on garage ink hmm they also were part of

540
01:00:04,220 --> 01:00:13,820
they played it the induction of Sabbath at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame again I

541
01:00:13,820 --> 01:00:21,140
think a lot of these bands are gonna be playing two or three songs so I do think

542
01:00:21,140 --> 01:00:29,820
that that Sabbath is that Sabbath is gonna play some or not Sabbath that

543
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:40,900
Metallica is probably gonna play a song or two of theirs maybe and maybe two or

544
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:45,380
three Metallica songs because how else are you fitting all of these bands in

545
01:00:45,380 --> 01:01:01,060
there yeah yeah let's see dad is dad Jesus Brad sorry dad doll Brad doll I

546
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:06,900
doubt Jake will be allowed to play with Ozzy I'm amazed he was invited would be

547
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:12,980
amazed if Bob Daisley was invited Bob Daisley has actually said he's glad he

548
01:01:12,980 --> 01:01:20,020
was not invited apparently Tom Morello has reached out to Jakey Lee and he's

549
01:01:20,020 --> 01:01:28,780
the one that's made that and Rudy Sarzo happen so it would be hard to find

550
01:01:28,780 --> 01:01:35,060
someone who has never played a Sabbath song true yeah the other thing is even

551
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:38,540
if you haven't played a song I'm sure they would just you know practice one

552
01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:43,580
and or a few and play a few yeah just as a tribute because I think the whole

553
01:01:43,580 --> 01:01:49,780
thing is essentially it's just a tribute isn't it yeah

554
01:01:52,740 --> 01:02:00,980
your winner son is saying that I like it will do a Lou Reed set so who will step

555
01:02:00,980 --> 01:02:16,180
in and say spermless like a girl for seven minutes unless they just bring up

556
01:02:19,580 --> 01:02:24,540
this is freezing a lot tonight let's go

557
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:34,460
Daisley has said he wasn't invited there are enough Sabbath and Ozzy songs for

558
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:45,580
everyone good point yeah so I mean I wish I could go wish it was closer I'm

559
01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:51,860
sure it's not gonna be cheap what are you willing to pay for a ticket to see

560
01:02:51,860 --> 01:02:56,660
this that's a good question good question I was I was sort of bobbing and

561
01:02:56,660 --> 01:03:00,540
awing is to think what how much they're gonna charge for it because there's a

562
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:05,540
hell of a lot of bands on as and then again I was thinking you know some of

563
01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:09,300
the profits are going to charity so I've got to be a bit generous here and think

564
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:14,020
that you know I don't mind giving away some of that money to the charities so

565
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:21,060
I'm thinking I'm thinking they're gonna price it around the 150 160 pound mark

566
01:03:21,060 --> 01:03:28,140
for the cheapest tickets no that'll be the ticket because it'll be on the pitch

567
01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:32,660
so they'll be standing on the pitch okay and they'll be they'll be sitting in the

568
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:36,780
stand but the pitch prices will be the more expensive they might have a golden

569
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:40,740
circle I don't know but I've got a feeling because it's a charity show they

570
01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:44,960
might not have the golden circle on the pitch and they might just charge the one

571
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:51,180
price I'm thinking that most of the people involved are not getting paid

572
01:03:51,180 --> 01:03:54,740
for it I think they've been asked to do it for the charity because I think

573
01:03:54,740 --> 01:04:02,620
Sharon's stuck yeah stuck a roaring here and I said to all of these bands you

574
01:04:02,620 --> 01:04:07,100
know this is a charity gig can you can you play it and they've all said yeah

575
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:15,300
I'll come and turn up and do a few songs yeah that that that sounds about right

576
01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:22,540
yeah I think that Sharon's gonna make the money after this show I think that

577
01:04:22,540 --> 01:04:26,220
the show doesn't make any money they're gonna sell shirts obviously at the show

578
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:31,220
but they're gonna sell the the DVD they're gonna sell the film it's all

579
01:04:31,220 --> 01:04:40,700
gonna be the after stuff and the vinyl there'll be a record of it I think that

580
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:44,260
that's what they'll do as well I mean I mentioned this the other day to all of

581
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:53,340
you guys the whole Freddie Mercury tribute concert is a good and possibly

582
01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:58,180
pay-per-view that that's another one I wouldn't be surprised if they did that

583
01:04:58,180 --> 01:05:02,860
as well yeah I mean she's not said that she's not going to record it as well you

584
01:05:02,860 --> 01:05:07,540
know you you know with when Oasis came and said that they were gonna do their

585
01:05:07,540 --> 01:05:11,340
their shows they said that they weren't gonna film it you can't watch it you

586
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:17,260
have to go and see the show live well she's not said that so you know maybe on

587
01:05:17,260 --> 01:05:23,900
the day they're gonna film it live maybe it's live on TV maybe they're gonna

588
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:30,100
record it and play it some other time maybe you could pay-per-view yeah live

589
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:34,700
cast on Netflix that's also a possibility that someone like a Netflix

590
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:40,360
Amazon comes along and says hey we'll buy the rights yeah the other thing they

591
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,940
might do is they might do it live in cinemas because they have done that

592
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:59,460
before with a show or two live on Channel 5 there you go okay next topic

593
01:05:59,460 --> 01:06:07,180
that we're gonna discuss here wish I could use one of his actual riffs but

594
01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:25,380
almost almost I've won I wanted the the riff for bad boys but Jeremy you and I

595
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:29,740
have been talking about John Sykes for years one was like once John Sykes

596
01:06:29,740 --> 01:06:34,520
coming back and I think we were all surprised when we found out he had

597
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:43,460
cancer and that he had passed away mm-hmm really sad news I'm not the

598
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:49,500
hugest white snake fan hmm I don't profess to be a white snake fan at all

599
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:55,660
but I like his era of the band you know the the songs that he wrote and he

600
01:06:55,660 --> 01:07:02,060
played on thin lizzie similar that's the era that I like the most of that band

601
01:07:02,060 --> 01:07:13,380
also blue murder that first blue murder album is an absolute classic you know

602
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:20,780
there's there's no other way of looking at it all these years we were joking

603
01:07:20,780 --> 01:07:34,140
joking about it and it's unfortunate that he has passed away yeah so there

604
01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:39,540
are a lot of people that have complained for example that the Grammys didn't make

605
01:07:39,540 --> 01:07:45,780
any note of it and it was a big deal on the BBC it was a big deal in several

606
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:53,660
newspapers around the world yet the quote-unquote biggest music award show

607
01:07:53,660 --> 01:08:03,140
didn't care didn't care enough to say anything about him so what was what was

608
01:08:03,140 --> 01:08:08,260
it like for you when you found out about it and and was the cut was the coverage

609
01:08:08,260 --> 01:08:14,040
that big of a deal back in the UK yeah there was there was limited coverage I

610
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:19,180
would say which I kind of expected because unless it's one of the major

611
01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:24,900
front man or the major guitarist in heavy metal you really you're not gonna

612
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:29,540
get a huge amount of coverage here because it's it's that kind of genre of

613
01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:35,100
music that doesn't cut cut it with the you know the mainstream media I personally

614
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:39,700
was quite shocked when I heard the news because I knew he wasn't that old you

615
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:46,320
know he's only what in his 60s yeah and I not heard anything like you that he'd

616
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:51,320
been ill so that was quite shocking and it kind of explains why he's been away

617
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:56,320
and probably missing off the scene for quite some time as we know you know he

618
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,700
come up with a few songs which he'd released and he was on about doing this

619
01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:08,860
album I think was called psych ops or something like that yeah so yeah just a

620
01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:14,460
bit shocked with it all quite sad really because I'd seen him live several times

621
01:09:14,460 --> 01:09:21,340
I stood next to him at a show once by accident a came out when during the deep

622
01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:27,100
purple show thin Lizzie that he was fronting at the time was the support act

623
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:31,700
and then there was another band on I think it might be Thunder and then while

624
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:36,220
deep purple the headliners came out I was standing right next to the soundboard at

625
01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:40,100
the MEN arena in Manchester and he came out and just stood right next to me and

626
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:43,940
watched deep purple just watched a few of the songs with the bass player out

627
01:09:43,940 --> 01:09:50,500
thin Lizzie I've forgotten his name now the with the black hair you'll know yeah

628
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:54,740
that's him yeah so yeah the two of them were standing next to each other and

629
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:58,620
stand and he was standing right next to me because I didn't speak to him I

630
01:09:58,620 --> 01:10:02,980
didn't want to interrupt him he was just enjoying the band and he was a proper

631
01:10:02,980 --> 01:10:11,900
rock star he had the hair he had the looks he had the chops he obviously was

632
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:16,100
a proper rock star because he you know he made his name a little bit in Tigers

633
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:21,180
of Pantang and then moved on to thin Lizzie straight away and and you know

634
01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:25,060
flew from there really as you know he went into white snake after that I mean

635
01:10:25,060 --> 01:10:30,780
I saw him 1983 at the Royal Court in Liverpool for think with thin Lizzie and

636
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:36,620
all I went for was to see him I wasn't interested in thin Lizzie that much you

637
01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:42,060
know I love thin Lizzie but I only went to see him because he was a rock star

638
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:48,420
and when you're a 16 year old guy and you're getting into heavy metal you have

639
01:10:48,420 --> 01:10:52,620
rock stars that you look up to you honor and cherish like they're almost gods

640
01:10:52,620 --> 01:10:57,660
really and he was one of them he looked the part I wanted to be I think everyone

641
01:10:57,660 --> 01:11:03,660
I knew wanted to be a John Sykes without those long curly locks and you know the

642
01:11:03,660 --> 01:11:09,740
guitar he had the black Gibson he was great I mean he wasn't the good the very

643
01:11:09,740 --> 01:11:13,100
greatest guitar player you know Eddie Van Halen was the greatest guitar player

644
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:19,700
or whoever else but he was he was a proper metal metal guy and he brought on

645
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:25,380
thin Lizzie and turned them into a proper metal-y metal-y sort of melodic

646
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:31,460
band didn't he and yeah that thunder and lightning album is a cracker

647
01:11:31,460 --> 01:11:43,260
yeah just to answer Edgar here he said I doubt I doubt one person who watched

648
01:11:43,260 --> 01:11:52,100
the Grammys has ever heard of Whitesake Nevermind John Sykes here I go again

649
01:11:52,100 --> 01:12:00,620
and is this love are massive songs in the US they were on top 40 radio and

650
01:12:00,620 --> 01:12:08,180
they still get played anytime that they do any type of 80s on Saturday or

651
01:12:08,180 --> 01:12:13,700
whatever you know your typical Saturday night show where they revisit anything

652
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:21,180
that's remotely pop orientated both of those songs get played so yeah there are

653
01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:25,020
people that know who Whitesnake are there at least they've heard their music

654
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:33,300
maybe they don't even they don't know that it's Whitesnake how about that but

655
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:38,980
yeah I again I think that the Grammys are similar to the to Rolling Stone

656
01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:43,420
where they're trolling the audience because they know they're gonna get a

657
01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:51,660
rise they know that they're gonna get people to complain and it's sad but it is

658
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:57,700
what it is you know they also didn't mention Jack Russell who passed away a

659
01:12:57,700 --> 01:13:06,580
few months ago who we talked about and also did not mention there's a third

660
01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:15,780
here yeah now I'm kicking myself that I don't remember oh Paul Deano is the

661
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:21,420
other one they didn't mention Paul Deano yet Paul Deano was front page news all

662
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:30,140
over the world hmm so it's it's it's sad it's sad and it's it's funny because a

663
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:37,740
lot of these so-called institutions within the US a lot of these

664
01:13:37,740 --> 01:13:42,060
organizations think that they're the be all end all and you talk to Johann you

665
01:13:42,060 --> 01:13:52,780
talk to people like you and stuff like that and and it turns out that no one

666
01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:57,740
kind of cares outside of the US about any of these shows about any of these

667
01:13:57,740 --> 01:14:03,540
award shows about any of these halls of fame or anything like that

668
01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:16,860
poppy versus Courtney Lapland Courtney of spirit box and yeah Brad I'm gonna

669
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:20,980
need that ginkgo shortly because I'm struggling thinking of band names

670
01:14:20,980 --> 01:14:28,340
tonight for whatever reason see kids get eight hours of sleep it makes a

671
01:14:28,340 --> 01:14:36,220
difference when you only sleep five hours brain isn't working as well so

672
01:14:36,220 --> 01:14:44,380
yes some reporter went up to Courtney from spirit box and thought she was

673
01:14:44,380 --> 01:14:54,420
poppy and Courtney and poppy get along because poppy has performed with them

674
01:14:54,420 --> 01:15:00,580
recently did one of their recent single soft spine with them on stage and so

675
01:15:00,580 --> 01:15:05,060
when the reporter started calling her poppy she just went with it and did like

676
01:15:05,060 --> 01:15:10,740
a bogus interview saying you know and good for her you know that somebody

677
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:17,660
doesn't know enough to know who somebody is at the Grammys yet you're gonna

678
01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:23,540
proceed and ask them certain questions that that kills me again it comes back

679
01:15:23,540 --> 01:15:36,180
to someone like myself and my 5270 posts on patreon priding themselves and

680
01:15:36,180 --> 01:15:40,380
working and researching and getting good questions for people or some I

681
01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:49,420
decent questions for people as opposed to hey poppy poppy you know so what's the

682
01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:56,420
name of your latest album once it come out once it's or you know all of all

683
01:15:56,420 --> 01:16:06,060
that shit so yeah it's it's just dumb and the person that asked her that

684
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:09,100
should be ashamed of themselves I mean I'm I hope that they're getting

685
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:16,780
ridiculed for this and you're saying that David soul's death even get

686
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:23,380
mentioned who is David soul it's my question that's

687
01:16:23,380 --> 01:16:42,860
staski and hutch is it can't remember these stars here hutch starsky hutch

688
01:16:42,860 --> 01:16:54,380
silver lady is never off my turn label hutch there you go hutch okay I remember

689
01:16:54,380 --> 01:16:58,780
how they used to slip inside that car without opening the door through the

690
01:16:58,780 --> 01:17:04,500
window my uncle had a grand Torino but it was green it was not red with the

691
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:10,700
stripe on it and interestingly enough few weeks I do remember he was the

692
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:17,420
reinstiller no one Wilson's yeah

693
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:29,740
okay Victor doesn't know so look at that there is a pop star no I don't I that's

694
01:17:29,740 --> 01:17:34,220
like a David Hasselhoff type thing where yeah you know you see footage over the

695
01:17:34,220 --> 01:17:45,580
years and whatnot but you're not exactly sure you know so cuz back back in the

696
01:17:45,580 --> 01:17:47,780
day

697
01:17:52,140 --> 01:17:57,980
okay so he meant me not you okay so I guess that was a big hit in the UK I

698
01:17:57,980 --> 01:18:04,740
guess silver lady yeah it was yeah yeah I remember on top of the pops yeah

699
01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:10,260
talking atop of the pops just a lovely link into tigers of pantang the first

700
01:18:10,260 --> 01:18:16,060
time I ever saw John Sykes was on they played love potion number nine which was

701
01:18:16,060 --> 01:18:22,300
a copy as you know it wasn't an original song yeah I heard on the radio actually

702
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:27,180
first time and then they played it on top of the pops and it's fantastic I

703
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:31,900
love that song and I loved watching them play it I think it really sort of gave

704
01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:36,900
the band a bit of a lift in fact it got in the charts I think at the time got

705
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:43,220
me in the singles charts probably you know quite low down but still made it

706
01:18:43,220 --> 01:18:54,820
yeah yeah so cool guys I do want to thank everyone who's joined us tonight

707
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obviously Brad Tony who've been here for the good hour-long chat here Edgar

708
01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:08,300
joined us as well Edgar you need to start joining us at the 10 o'clock hour

709
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:14,820
on your end and Jeremy thank you once again we will be back next month with

710
01:19:14,820 --> 01:19:21,860
another one of these fun album reviews hope it helped you guys out and wish I

711
01:19:21,860 --> 01:19:28,900
could play a little silver lady for you guys now but unfortunately it's just not

712
01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:37,020
in the cards so there you go and your Winterson says he always forgets he's

713
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:47,580
old we're all old damn it so anyway on that note thank you guys so much for

714
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listening or watching the show live or the replay and we shall see you next

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