Welcome everyone to episode 401 of Signals from Mars. This is the lost
episode. I recorded the what is episode 402 first, at least the host raps and
call that 401 when I did it. But no this hour one special is actually episode 401.
Let's do this.
So I had technical issues when I was supposed to edit and release this
episode and what happened was I was having issues with my laptop and
figured all right well I'm not gonna release this on Friday like usual I'll
release this on Monday and in the back of my mind I'm like I'm never gonna have
time to do that okay well I'll just skip a week not a big deal not as if not as
if I've got anybody with pitchforks at the front door going where's the episode?
So I was editing what is as I mentioned at the beginning episode 402 which is
the Queens Drake albums countdown and I'm going to prepare the well I've
uploaded the audio to rss.com and I'm going to prepare the actual images that
go along with everything all the graphics and it says there's already an
episode 401 I'm like sorry 401 I look I'm like oh shit yeah I never did edit
this episode so here it is here's episode 401 the real 401 with the hour
one motif which if you're not aware or you haven't checked this out in a while
it is just a music discussion between a bunch of different patrons basically and
myself we have Johan we have Brad and we have Jeremy joining me and there are
several topics that we touch upon including the passing of both Paul
Deano and Jack Russell which happened recently and I don't usually touch on
musicians deaths and stuff like that because I don't know I want to keep
things I don't want to say cheery but you know we're all getting old our idols
are all dying you know because people are getting older I remember talking to
Mark Striegel about this a bunch of times you know the older we get all
these artists that are 20 30 40 years older in some cases are gonna be dying
also so yeah it sucks but Deano and Jack Russell I think I've had Jack Russell on
the show Paul Deano I never had him on and but we've talked about him over the
years and he's made enough of an impact in hard rock and metal that I thought it
was something that we needed to address so this is that episode this is where we
talk about that we do touch upon a bunch of other music related topics the cool
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welcome one and all to the latest episode of signals from Mars I'm Victor
and I'm joined by a bunch of cavalier ish gentlemen from around the world this is
why I love doing these shows we have Johan from Sweden we have Jeremy in the
UK and we have Brad in Idaho your own private Idaho there you go so this is
great we're back doing a hour one music discussion here we're gonna be talking
about a bunch of hot button topics when I wrote this up is says that this is
must-hear it's must-hear topic let's go with the first topic because all over
social media and all over the news sites we all know by now that we've had some
some fairly big losses in the hard rock and metal community Paul Deano original
Iron Maiden lead singer well singer on the first two albums if you go back and
even the band is honored people that have been in the band previous to Deano
but yeah there you go we have Jeremy there with the original cover
but shown us that I came back from London with this I told Jeremy this last
last week off the air one of my things was that I needed to come back with
vinyl from British bands and I came back with the first Iron Maiden album and I
came back with love by the cult on vinyl so so I think I checked that box off
fairly well but anyway I was going through social media and I have Lee
Hart who was the lead singer in fastway after Dave King left the band and he had
actually worked with Paul Deano as well because Lee had worked with Joan Jett
and he had written he had become if I'm not mistaken one of the house writers
for I don't remember if it was RCA or what label it might be and Paul actually
sung a bunch of songs that Lee had written and which subsequently ended up
on two fastway albums also so there's interesting takes of hearing those songs
with Lee and with Paul singing anyway I don't know I we've talked about this at
length Jeremy you and I've talked about Paul and and everything that he I doing
with the DHS and and everything that happened after that and and even before
coming on the air I was showing showing you guys a magazine where they have an
interview with Paul Deano on this magazine was just released this month
obviously nobody expected his passing yes he'd had health issues but based on
the information that the family has released I guess his heart kind of bled
out if I'm if I understood that correctly sad to see his passing
obviously those first two maiden albums at least for me especially killers
killers is is the real big one for me I like the first time made down the ss
showed that I bought it I didn't have in my collection but killers to me is it's
what it is one of my all-time favorite albums on my arms and I can flip-flop
the order I mean I think seventh son is probably definitively my number one but
number two could be killers could be power slave could be brave new world
depends on what day of the week it is you know so anyway Jeremy again we've
talked about Paul Deano and and his tomfoolery over the years what type of
press did this release or did this receive in the in the UK has has there
been like any mention on like regular news about his his funeral yesterday or
anything remotely like that yeah when he died the the news covered it I mean it
was certainly on Sky News it got covered then so yeah there's been a little bit
and on the social media courses it's been covered it's been covered obviously
a lot in the heavy metal papers you know the rock the rock rock but generally
speaking a lot of people who aren't into heavy metal have been talking about it
as well you know there's a lot of people who know I am maiden so you know they're
gonna talk about it a lot of people who actually will have remembered him you
know as the first maiden you know they remember those two albums or at least
debut album you know when they first started so they do remember his voice
many people actually do prefer it you know they I talked to a lot of people who
say I made them finish when Paul Deano left I you know those two first albums
right so great to me but after and so fuss get a lot of that and I you know I
wanted to focus a lot tonight on the on the music and Paul Deano the
contribution to you know to what he did to Iron Maiden really and I think I am
made themselves wanted to do that didn't they very recently in the last year or
so there's been a sort of you know he's met Steve Harris he's met Bruce
Dickinson he's got himself around talking to these people and they've
welcomed him into the fold haven't they they've welcomed him back you know we
know that he was an alcoholic we know he you know he diddle the NHS a little bit
but apart from that you know he was a lovable rogue and a lot of rock stars
are like that and I sort of list started listening to a little bit of the old
music again as you probably have and I listened to my favorite was Wrath child
I thought he was absolutely tremendous on that I can't listen to Bruce singing
that it's a Paul Deano song you know it's Paul singing it and and he was you
know he was he was that sort of punky element you know he was a sort of punky
singer really and it was he was that bridge between I think and being a heavy
metal band and he was in the middle and he started off and I just loved it like
like we all you know when we first heard those that first Iron Maiden song that
first I made an album we loved it and we loved it because Paul was on it yeah I
I truly think that for me as I mentioned killers is my favorite of the two
honestly side two of killers to me is a perfect album side from the title track
to Twilight Zone to Prodigal Son to Drifter I think it's those four am I
missing anything off of that I think it's just those four to me that's that
that's a that's a perfect album side and I remember as much as I love Wrath
child and murders in the room org and stuff like that I would listen to side
two and rewind it and listen to it over and over and over again I just love
those those songs so much Johan in Sweden how much attention has the
passing of Paul Deano received
was received all in the biggest newspapers and in the television so it
was very big and they you know the headlines were the singer of Iron Maiden
is dead so they will get a lot of clicks but yeah big news very big news and very
sad not really surprising as you as you said he had bad health but yeah very
sad I think Jeremy said it all about him my favorite album by him is with I
made him is the first one it's perfect album not a weak song all classics and
I also love his voice especially in the balance you know some strange world on
the first album yes if he sings really good so a great singer and great
personality actually you had the chance to book him here in my small hometown in
the early I would say 99 around that time he toured with a bunch of Swedish
musicians and I was one of the people who was I had something to say about it
and I actually turned turned it down because I didn't think that he would
make a good show and he wouldn't draw that amount of people to the to the
restaurant so and I can really regret that now but I think it was the right
choice but back then he didn't I don't think he was in a really good shape
right yeah yeah there's a lot of stories of that because in the US he toured with
Icarus which and there Jason McMaster who I'm gonna have on the show shortly
he did a tribute on his podcast talk louder and they talked about the fact
that that he was basically carried each night by the by Icarus which and how you
know there were a few situations that a few sticky situations that the band
helped him get out of so that he wasn't you know in the best frame of mind it
wasn't the the greatest time you know and I get exactly what you're saying I
have behind me it's over here you can kind of see it and I've had this for a
long time here there's twisted sister but underneath the twisted sister is
Paul Deano's Battlezone so and this is nothing like Maiden I mean to be quite
honest it wasn't what he had done like those songs that I referred to that he
had recorded that Lee Hart had written were a lot more polished were a lot more
like in the vein of of wanting to be Bon Jovi and stuff like that and and I
remember hearing that stuff and thinking you know Paul can do so much more than
this you know it gets it comes back to what we were talking about before Johann
and having to heat the pool that's what the that material always felt like to me
because you listen to him and Maiden I listened to him on this and I mean it
wasn't super heavy but it was there were elements of thrash metal to it it was
you know of its time and then even when he released the Killers albums Killers
was a pretty heavy band as well this second album sounded more like Pantera
than it did you know what we were used to hearing from him so yeah it's it's a
shame but I mean obviously we've we've talked about different aspects outside
of music it's a shame that after Maiden he didn't receive the same maybe
notoriety that that obviously Brewster or Rob Halford has and even looking at a
Blaise Bailey I think Blaise Bailey probably has received more notoriety for
the music that he's done as a solo artist than Paul has as a solo artist
and I don't know if that's because Blaise has kind of stayed in his lane to an
extent he's kind of understood his audience and hasn't tried to go for like
super radio friendly stuff to to you know make a lot of money or whatever and
that's where I think Paul may maybe have had some pitfalls along the way but I
mean that all ultimately comes down to opinion and whatnot the other passing
that I wanted to talk about and Brad this is something that I wanted to throw
in your direction I wish that Metal Dan would have been able to join us because
I I mentioned to him talking about this person and that's Jack Russell who I
know Metal Dan had seen as the front man of Dante Fox as well as a great white
and you're from you know you were in that general area for a very long time
as well did you get to see him in Dante Fox or have you only seen him as part of
great white yeah that's a great question yeah I was actually gone from that area
in 81 so so yeah and Dante Fox you know it's hard to know how I could have seen
him somewhere I mean at a party whatever because I mean bands were everywhere but
not knowing it was him the first time I know that I saw him was on their first
tour after their first album warming up for Judas Priest at this time I was
I was in Fresno for a for a moment and they were really really good as a you
know new band hitting the stage and he was great he was great live I mean
hitting all the notes he was a great front man he looked the part handled the
mic stand very well it's constantly throwing it all over the place just
everything yeah he had he had it in his younger day I remember once and I think
it was warming up for kiss or may was scorpions back in 88 89 type area in
Spokane I know this is actually in Salt Lake City okay and Shelley we were
sitting right off the side of the stage this is in the old salt palace and and
Shelley just go that looked at me and said guy he's he's a rock star I mean
he's just got that and you know what you're right he really he really had
that in his younger days you know it's it was tough to see him physically in
his latter days because he was he was pretty messed up he could still sing
quite well yeah that's that's what I was gonna say his voice is it's amazing that
with everything that he went through health-wise yeah and his voice was still
amazing all the way up until the end I mean there was footage of him from maybe
two months before him dying and and he said he still sounded as good as he did
on the albums that's that was one of the things when I interviewed him a few
years ago that kind of stood out to me with with that Jack Russell's great white
album is that he still had the vocals he still had the melodies and even the new
treatments on some of the old great white classics a lot of times it's the
detune because the guy can't sing anymore or whatever but Jack was singing
the shit like he was like it was 82 again you know it was amazing yeah if you
want to talk about how great a vocalist he was I mean look at all the people who
tried to replace him in great white there you go failed miserably and there's
some really really good singers too I mean he had something that I mean the
new guy actually channels and pretty doggone well but other than that there's
not many people that can sing that stuff I think it was Janie Lane who sang with
them for a while when he was really sick I think it was him that kind of plugged
him in with the band and and he said that stuff's like near impossible to
sing and you know he was he was a great singer and yeah I yeah he was he was a
kind of a one-of-a-kind and he could he could do Led Zeppelin better than Robert
Plante right I'll give him that too
as far as great white is concerned Jeremy were you a fan well I did listen
to them a little bit back in the day I mean they didn't really translate a
huge amount over in the but I did listen to once bitten and twice shy they were
the sort of the ones that resonated and I you know I've gone those over the
years as well you know just now and again and you know he did have a
brilliant voice and you know they were pretty good band typical 80s band very
American band but yeah he had a very very strong voice he'd have got into any
any outfit then and you know succeeded I think that's all I can say about it
really I mean you know I enjoyed what what he did and enjoyed what the band
did it yeah it's good stuff okay and Johan I'm assuming they've played
Sweden Rock or something similar over the years have you ever gotten a chance
to see them actually I feel like a bad guest here but I I don't know much about
great white okay I don't know if they have played Sweden Rock I have never
seen them and they were never big here in Sweden so no I really can't speak
much about them okay but if you have you know like what do you say a tip for the
best record to to start I'm happy to to listen to them yeah okay Brad so so
let's see if we're on the same page with this to me I think that there's three
albums by them that are above all the others to me their first album is great
that's been re-released under a lot of different names like I have it under the
name stick it I've also seen it called great white I've seen it called down on
your knees as well I believe to me the first album is great to me once bitten
is probably it's it's pretty close to a complete package it just didn't get to
be as big as the the next album twice shy but I think the songs are better on
once bitten there's more variety on there as well and then and then I think
that this song or I'm sorry the album psycho motel which was their last I think
Geffen album if I'm not mistaken that came out when the popularity of the band
was totally gone but they kind of still put out a great white album you know
they it was a little heavier than what they had done in the past but it was
still bluesy it still had a ridiculously good ballad which they've always released
ballads the song old rose motel I think is just really good and I'm not a big
ballad guy but there's a lot of good stuff on there and and to their credit I
think while Jack was in the band every album had at least two to three good
tracks on it like the the great white playlist that I have on my phone has
stuff from through out their career because they were they were that solid I
know that a lot of stuff gets looked at in a certain light especially in the US
because of the station fire I haven't read Jack's book I haven't listened to
it either but I know that that's something that haunted him up until when
he died especially because so many people I mean there was real hate that
came out that I saw when he died with people saying you know I'm so glad he's
dead he killed you know my friend or he killed my spouse or this and that and
can I just say that's totally unfair I mean he had no control over what
happened I mean you can't blame him you can't really can't blame anybody in the
band in the actual band the musicians for what happened there but yet
everybody did and you're right everybody treated him like crap I mean he
afterward they had benefits trying to you know raise money to help the
families that were involved and he wanted to participate but they wouldn't
let him you know because they just there was so much hatred towards it's towards
him and you're you're right man he couldn't talk about that without
breaking down till probably till the day he died that was just a devastating
moment for him and he lost he lost a band member I think lost other guys part
of their their group there right it was just a it was just a terrible thing and
I think it's wrong for people to be so hateful about something like that I mean
everybody suffered so that's my take on no I agree with you on that there's
there were a lot of external factors that that played into that and you could
blame you know the the guy that ran the station possibly the owners the person
closest related to the band the manager that lit the fireworks I mean but but
again this wasn't something that other bands weren't doing a lot of bands were
doing this stuff it was unfortunately the perfect storm that took place you
know it was things just went wrong right and you know that's the way life is man
sometimes things just go wrong with no bad intention and I don't think anybody
had a bad intention in that moment it just and it's unfortunate yeah yeah I
agree so anyway one of the neat new features that we do have here is that we
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Brad look at that can I just say that's a great price as well because I just I
just bought it there oh good good Jeremy no just saying they're really warm as
well they're you know a good purchase for me because I've worn it a lot yeah
and the hat actually these the the base prices are set by the provider that I
use so nice I've had more comments about this bucket hat than and I've got
several as you know right comments about this one positive comments
especially from the ladies yeah the ladies who cares what dudes think
so yeah that's I just finished listening to Alex Van Halen's audiobook brothers
and that's one of the things that he talks about that yes they were heavy
metal band but that they were able to pull the ladies in so he says that's one
of the things that separated them from some other bands so hey I want to give
my three great white albums that I think go ahead go ahead that I know Jeremy's
too busy listening to new music to listen to old music but this this is
gonna be your assignment I agree with I agree with Victor that the first album
which should be self-titled is it's nothing like the rest of their albums
and I don't know why they tried to get away from that sound and I've heard them
talking I was like well we're not really a heavy metal band and they went on I
guess to prove that they're following albums but that last time I saw great
white that which was last year at m3 this is without Jack of course this is
the mark Kendall version but they played they played stick it off this album
which and it was great and he I was chatting him up chatting with him while
I was waiting for my flight the next day and he said yeah he says a lot of people
now want to hear more stuff off that first album I said that's cool I'm I'm
totally done with that now you got the right guy to sing it too so yeah yeah so
that album for from a mental standpoint is fantastic and really really good cover
of the who song substitute mm-hmm yeah it's it yeah that's a very well done
it's a great album so so check that one out I'm gonna go with the second album
as well which called shot in the dark now this album is where they kind of
went away from the heavy metal thing but yet it was still quite rocking big
guitars but they brought keyboards into the band which there was none on that
with with the first iteration of the band and they did it in a very nice way
I I like the songs there's a bit of a zeppelin flavor I would like to say
without ripping the zeppelin off so give that one a listen as well and then I'm
gonna skip all the way down to 1999 an album called can't get there from here
okay this is a more latter-day great white where they kind of lost me after
the twice shy album you know they just kind of they had some good songs and
that as you talked about Victor but the albums weren't that strong but this one
they nailed it and I think Don Dock and could be wrong about this but I feel
like he helped produce that album or he was involved somehow with that album and
it's a really solid rock album just good bluesy but rock album as well so can't
get there from here that'd be my third choice that you should listen to and
that'll give you a latter taste of these days in great white that's interesting
because that album that's the last album that had songs on the radio because
Rolling Stones got played quite a bit really yeah in my area oh yeah yeah
didn't make a dent where I lived in Utah I don't think yeah enough this album
got on a radio there so they were not was produced by Jack Blades Oh Jack
Blades but Don Dock and had something to do with it I know he does co-wrote ain't
no shame mmm okay gone to the dogs wouldn't Jesus great song great song I
saw them on this tour they were touring with Doc and they were actually warming
up for Doc and and yeah the new songs sounded fantastic yeah but Jack Blades
co-wrote let's see Rolling Stones ain't no shame Silent Night St. Lorraine in the
tradition freedom song he wrote every so no actually Sister Mary he didn't write
that was Michael Lardy and Alan Niven yeah that's a sleeper
in my opinion Mitchell upon things differently but that's okay he loves
those ballad songs well that makes a lot of sense then speaking of Jack Blades I
saw him at the airport last year at M3 after M3 and and you talk about how tall
everybody is in signals from Mars Jack Blades he's a he's a wee man he's he's
and he he's like 70 something years old and the dude still the dude still rocks
I know it's kind of getting off topic here but yeah him him you know we're
just rolling out of bed at the Ramada Inn and hit in the airport he he he
didn't look quite as sharp as he did on stage let's put it that way but I saw
him some guy cornered him I got to say this about Jack Blades I gotta give him
his flowers some guy cornered him there at the airport came up to him with like
a suitcase full of albums to sign okay like I'm like okay you know don't mess
with a guy and he's you know waiting for his plane or what you know what I mean
it's like I don't know that's that's just not me I didn't I didn't go bug him
but I watched Jack and he signed every single one of those things yeah
unfortunately unfortunately though with a lot of those situations nowadays
people are getting that shit signed to sell I agree I think that's crap but
but anyway the you know I could tell that it wasn't what Jack wanted to be
doing at that time yeah I think he was more interested in getting his coffee
going but but he was very very nice took a picture with the guy and everything
and a couple other people came up to him and I just like again you know don't
bother people man I mean it was that Mark Kendall was the one who flagged me
down I was walking back as I was wearing a Dodger shirt and he goes hey Dodgers
and and they waved me over and we started talking about baseball and then
next thing you know we're talking about music so wow yeah cool with cool dude
all right enough of those stories but yeah Jack Blades these things like a
really good right songs there you go next topic download xxii which is
essentially download 22 will be celebrated in 2025 and Jeremy were there
people shocked in the UK over what bands are headlining here the walls yeah
I think there's a lot of a lot of people up in arms should we say about who was
on yeah I mean yeah they were really shocked about the the headliners and I
think in particular a band like sleep token headlining you know not being
around a huge time really but I know that Andy Copping you know the organizer
he is he said quite a few years back he needs to push up bands to be headliners
he's making them headliners and he only puts them there because they're selling
albums they're selling out shows you know that they are up and coming or
that they are pretty big now he knows that the old bands are not gonna be
there forever he can't he can't you know get Metallica or Iron Maiden it all
every time so yeah a bit of a shock to people but but also that bands that
appeal to the audience now you know the audience has changed over over time as
well you know I used to go to download festival I don't go anymore I'm too old
for it because a lot of the bands are not for me but but he knows Andy
Copping knows his audience he knows how it's changed over the years and he puts
on the bands for the audience what's gonna sell out the other thing I would
say about sleep token by the way is if I point my finger that way I can throw
a stone and it will hit the house where one of the backing singers used to live
she used to live just around the corner from me and she she actually sang a song
at the school where my daughter was at at school and so I knew from there but
also I know her parents very well I know her father really well we go to city
together so yeah she's in the band I don't think I can name her though
because I think they're supposed to be partly hidden behind their disguises or
their other names or whatever I think they've got a group name for the three
of them so yeah but she's headlining download so she's pretty pretty
excited about that so that that's yeah I saw what he mentioned about that that
you know in the past they've pushed up other bands to the top of the ranks and
I I I guess I mean Green Day is obviously a huge band I think corn is
still a big draw but but corn is with a lot of these festivals hasn't headlined
in some time not in like a download type setting you know they played like
Hellfest and been like the second to like a Slipknot or a Metallica or stuff
like that so I don't want to criticize this lineup because it's still a lot of
really good bands that are gonna be playing but at the same time Metallica
is gonna be back out on tour their own tour Maiden is gonna be on their own
tour so it seems as if some of the bands that we've come accustomed to seeing at
some of these festivals are gonna be doing their own thing or maybe they're
gonna be you know resting at that time because I don't know what Priest is
gonna be doing and maybe Priest is gonna be will finally be opening up for Maiden
I don't know there they've talked about that for a long time could that finally
actually take place hmm by the way one of the other issues is the costs of the
bands which had been going up over the years and Andy Copping's mentioned this
many times and he knows that those huge stadium fillers you know the Metallicas
the Iron Manes their price is so much now and the cost of putting on this these
shows I mean he said it's become you know a real issue so I think this is why
he's gone a little bit down the order he knows he can pay half the price to those
three bands on the bill and there's and they're still gonna sell most of the
tickets I mean this was a discussion that we were gonna broach a few months
ago because I had talked about Valken how it was the first Valken that didn't
sell out the last day of the festival but also we have also found out that a
lot of those tickets were possibly being scooped up by brokers who are now not
allowed to buy due to new laws being passed they're not allowed to buy
tickets like they were in the past I'm trying to see with Valken 2025 if
they've listed any of the bands that are playing I think these are from the past
yeah it's getting to be a tricky time for us and festivals as far as having
the same bands over and over and over yeah you got it you got it you guys sell
tickets so I'm glad that there are bands that'll pull on enough people to fill
download up or at least get close well but here's here's the thing too I just
pulled up Sweden Rock Sweden Rock 2025 is Slipknot, Sabaton, Scorpions, Korn, Dream
Theater, King Diamond, Within Temptation, Sex Pistols featuring Frank Carter in
fairness they'll be at download as well Opeth, Meshuggah, Creator, DAD, Running
Wild, Black Country Communion, Turbo Negro, Pretty Maids, Ginger, Skillet, The
Warning, Orbit Culture, Apocalyptica, get ready Brad, Doro, Royal Republic, Exodus,
Dragon Force, The Crucified Barbara, Eagles of Death Metal, Cattle Decapitation, Samantha
Fish, Nothing More who will be at download as well, The Ghost Inside, LA
Guns, Soin, Mercure, Old Man's Child, Alien, Crimson Glory, The Good, The Bad, and The
Zuggly, Remedy, Sarkator, and Bloodstain. That's one hell of a metal festival
Johan. I don't know if you're already got your tickets if you're looking to go to
see this next year or not but I'm going that's a fantastic lineup
That's ridiculous because that covers pretty much every style of
hard rock and metal you could want. It's diverse, it's a lot of music.
This year at Sweden Rock and next year it's to have bands like Slipknot and Korn
play there is groundbreaking to Sweden Rock because that style of metal
we don't usually have it there. How about Meshuggah? Meshuggah, they play there from now on
then they are household name but you know Slipknot and Korn that kind of US metal
Sweden Rock is very traditional and those two bands are not the band that
you usually hear at the campsite from the you know the speakers at the tents
or you know so it's exciting I think it's good I hope they follow download
and book more Green Day wow I have seen with Nate twice excellent live band I
hope they book Weezer that would be awesome to have a new audience at Sweden
Rock because the festival needs it it's of course so it will be sold out of
course but you need to have new people come there I think it's important I've
got a question for Johan actually I mean as the age the age group changed at
Sweden Rock over the years then is it becoming much younger no not much
younger but a little bit younger I must say the festival is very strong in
Sweden and people go there from not only metal just to experience Sweden Rock
so it's festival is now very what do you say very rooted here in Sweden so it's
a it's a safe place to go to you know it's good organized very you know very
known very very known in Sweden so but I I really hope they follow download I
have seen scorpions and Judas Priest and all those bands many many times now so I
applaud the new bands new research isn't a new band but right you know what I
mean yeah different different different bass
you had in the past yeah and resurrection here resurrection fest
which is the biggest festival in Spain they've announced slipknot corn and
Judas Priest their headliners all right except as announced that they're gonna
do a 50th anniversary tour and they plan to feature or they've sent
invitations to try and feature Udo Dirk Schneider and Peter Balz no no no olive
branch to oh man I can't remember the name of the guy that's hung on
generation clash oh David's David Reese David there's a third name in there
somewhere David something Reese David Reese this is David Reese okay pretty
sure I mean you might have a metal name you know he made me his middle name is
Udo okay there you go so what do you guys think about that because there's
been so much bad blood over the years especially with with Peter now jumping
ship and being part of UDO and Dirk Schneider what do you guys think about
them reaching out and saying hey we'd love to invite Udo and Peter is is that
the band just saying that as lip service just you know come come across well with
the fans or do you think that they've honestly reached out to those guys to
try to get them involved I bet they have and I've got a visual of why this is
okay okay it's all about money I mean except okay their last tour that they
did here in the US which I didn't get to see him unfortunately they were
nowhere clear close to here they were the support band for KK's priest wow and
they were they were playing clubs okay not theaters not I mean they're playing
really small small places I know except that's the closest thing except with
them you know the current group of except that's the closest thing they've
done to a tour of the US they typically only do just a few dates in the US they
pick few hot spots in Texas and that where they can again get the most money
and I'm sure if there was enough enough money involved Udo and Peter would be
happy to come back and do it because I think money is the main reason those
guys aren't part of except now um could be I wonder if similar to I guess
overkill recently parted with Jason Bittner and they were saying the band
was saying oh we've parted on great terms we knew this was coming so on so
forth and Jason actually this week I was reading an interview where he was saying
yeah it wasn't about the money I was miserable in the band I didn't just want
to be the drummer I wanted to do other stuff in the band so for some yes it's
all about heating the pool and for theirs they need that creative out along
with it so that's that's interesting okay sorry good I saw a picture of
except I think they were playing in Munich in Germany and they were playing
in a club as well so I think it's I mean it's a good idea to do something I think
they have no gone the whole line with the singer from yeah the American singer
I don't remember his name but Mark Tornillo yeah yeah I like it
he's really good yeah but I think they the popularity has gone down when they
are touring regular but I mean if they play Sweden Rock they always play the
biggest stage but I think that would be a nice thing to do you know to perhaps
end except with a big tour we both Udo and Pete Baltis so I hope they can make
it I will go and see them again of course they might as well get Stephen
Kaufman in there too he's still alive yeah I I would actually I'd love to go
see that but we'll see what happens hmm I'm not holding my breath yeah and the
next kind of reunion that I'm gonna mention again something that I picked up
in London this is an EP that I have on CD but didn't realize that they released
this on vinyl the record store day exclusive I guess from this year and it
is this is called Revue songs it is by Sepultura but this is the Derek Green
Sepultura and on this they cover Exodus and Massive Attack and U2 and Jane's
Addiction and Devo and a few other bands but now Andreas Kisser has said that he
wants to have the Cavallara Brothers involved in Sepultura's very last show
and he's actually come out and said you know his wife passing away has kind of
made him realize that as much as he loves music that he needs to do other
things in his life outside of music so that's why he wants to end Sepultura but
I don't know this again a band where that's had a lot of bad blood between
the members issues with management the old managers married to Max can they do
a one-off would they would a one-off be good enough does them playing does does
them playing with the Cavallara Brothers all of a sudden spark interest in
promoters wanting to book them so I don't I don't know
Johan what do you think does does the Cavallara Brothers playing with
Sepultura again get them on Sweden Rock absolutely no doubt I would go to
Stockholm to see them Sepultura only not that band when the band was original so
that would be a big thing okay yeah absolutely I saw them on the
chaos a detour 1994 and back then they were one of the biggest metal acts I
think in the world what a crowd what a crowd at the festival yeah it was mayhem
crazy and I met the band afterwards actually I waited on the backstage
entrance because I have heard that they always go out in the crowd after the
shows to speak with the fans and they did so I had the opportunity to drink
a beer with the Cavallara Brothers in 1994 but absolutely yes that would be
amazing if they would reunite that band yes okay except going back to them they
plan on celebrating the 50th anniversary of the band don't remember if I mention
that or not but there are other bands that are gonna be doing similar Maiden
for example is also gonna be celebrating the 50th anniversary of the release of
the first album from not mistaken and we're seeing a lot of no it's just gonna
correct you there Victor it's actually from when they started before before
the first album okay okay so so does that mean that there what's the does
that mean they're gonna be playing invasion off of these Soundhouse tapes on
the 50th anniversary who knows they did say that they're gonna be playing stuff
that they haven't played in a long time and it'll probably be the last time ever
playing some of these tracks so that should be women in uniform will be the
first track that they come out to that would be interesting 50 years man it was
1975 yep that's apparently what the band was first formed yeah yeah for the
released any music yeah yeah what do you think about bands celebrating that like
this is the day that we first like well two of us first met or whatever I don't
know I say it should be the first album that's when you should when the first
albums released that's when the band really is the band well yeah but the big
the big question is whether I make think they're gonna go on for 50 years they
might be right yeah that's the same thing that I had in mind because the
first album came out in what 79 is it April 1980 April the 14th 1980 okay yeah
and Dave Murray so so so that's the thing I mean for them to get to 50 years
from when the album was released currently we're looking at a little over
five years yeah well as you said will the band be around in five years well the
planet still be around yeah I mean yeah the thing is they might not because
because you know they just might not I won't want to say why you know various
things may happen over those five years and they may just decide to to stop
playing I mean we know that the drumming at the moment is not up to the best who
knows whether Dave Murray just want to go off and play golf for a bit and
finish yeah to the hospital a few weeks ago apparently allegedly okay so does
that mean that that again all of a sudden he's sick of touring and says
alright you've got two other guitars you know keep going
the question is whether they've got another album in there if they've got
another album in them which might take a year or two to finish off then they
normally a band would tour the last album so that would take them another
couple of years I just think that they obviously they must have in the back of
the mind the retired the the R word retirement and you know bands can't go
on forever unless you're the Rolling Stones you can go on forever they've got
the money to go on forever they've got the doctors the masseuses and they're
out of there they're in a different stratosphere than Maiden Metallica or
any of the big metal bands oh yeah what it is listen you've got you've got to go
and see these bands now while you can if they're out on tour go and see them
because as we know we love them all and we this could be the last time it really
could be the last time yeah you're so right Jeremy yeah and I'm sitting I'm
kicking myself why didn't I drive 12 hours to go see except and KK's priest
didn't you do that to see Saxon like 15 times yeah that's different though
anyway Saxon coming back to the US in March next year yeah yeah very jealous
about yeah Saxon riot and Lizzie Borden in San Antonio so I'm definitely
coming out to me Saxon plays one hour from my house in February I'm going
yes yeah wait wait February yep all right all right I'll talk to check the
date on that I keep thinking that I gotta get to Sweden I have to February
probably a great time to come there no there will be here well that's debatable
I think I think he's a little farther north than you are Brad doesn't matter
it's not about north-south it's about the the weather patterns yeah okay yeah
I'm just I'm just saying about a hundred miles west of me snow right now lots of
snow right here everything's kind of melting we need some snow tomorrow
hopefully I need to go to Sweden and the Saxons a good reason well the Johan's
the best reason for me to go to Sweden there's some other people over there
I'd like to see but you know yeah plane tickets are probably cheaper in February
right probably if you go to Sweden rock Brad it's I know I know it's like everyone
is there everyone if they're not playing there they are there in the audience
everyone's there all right we'll see if we can make that happen
June the week before download right yeah yeah it is June 4th 5th 6th and 7th okay
for four days Wow yeah a lot speaking of playing shows and just different
collaborative stuff that's happened recently Michael Schenker obviously
released an album of old UFO songs where he's got a bunch of different artists
playing on the album with him slash has done it in the past there's a video that
came out this week which I've scheduled to post on patreon shortly which
features machine head with members of in flames
lacuna coil and on earth and lamb of God has actually done this with two tours
where they've released tracks with mastodon and previous to that they
covered Megadeth's wake up dead with Megadeth what do you guys think of these
types of collaborations obviously one thing is an artist having you know like
a Michael Schenker having big-name artists come in and cover some of his
old UFO classics and the other thing is for bands that are going out on tour
together to release a single where all the bands that are formed part of that
tour release a collaborative song together Brad what do you think about
both topics well okay my my son who's 22 years old he thinks because you know
he's really big into the hip-hop and all that kind of stuff where everybody's
collaborating he's like right on Sunday albums and that he says I don't know why
metal doesn't do that last year when a monomar came out with Saxons and Vikings
and well that was good he thought that way he was just like this is incredible
he says why don't more bands do this kind of stuff do a collaborative song and
I actually it was really good and I actually agree with that but I don't
want to see like let's play an old song of ours because then I would write a new
song write a new song collaborate right I would be all for that but the like the
Michael Schenker thing what he's doing having guys come in and sit in and
noodle around on an old UFO song it's like yeah I mean I've listened to that
with slash and nothing nothing wrong with his playing but it's not like holy
crap look what slash did to the song didn't do anything Kirk Hammett oh Kirk
Hammett look what he did the rock bottom wow who knew right right it's wrong with
these guys man that would be cool that's what I mean but see see the thing with
that though can Michael Schenker entice Axl Rose to sing on a new track whereas
Axl's covering a song that he loves from Michael's UFO days and obviously as far
as what I had heard he had heard slash say that he was gonna go into the studio
and record the track and Axl said oh I want to be part of that because he's a
fan of UFO and and Michael's early stuff so and apparently he tried love to love
which he did shoot shoot which Stephen Pierce he ended up doing and I forget
what the third song is so he recorded three tracks I'm not sure if he did all
the way through a love to love is the one that he was most satisfied with so
that's why that's the one that ended up on the album and that that one's
actually obviously gonna be the the selling point because how many times have
we heard Axl outside of Guns N' Roses on a Sebastian Bach album and an Iggy Pop
album and that's about it yeah and I notice it's not like his voice was
really a big part of the song anyway so yeah him actually singing love to love
is something yeah but you put that version up against yeah the original no
I don't know strange strangers in the night strangers in the night with a lot
of those old UFO songs yeah is is the perfect version of a lot of those love
to love live is just yeah it's really good yeah you're right it's great
version yeah Jeremy what do you think about these collaborations well I kind
of hundred percent agree with proud I mean he summed it up perfectly really I
mean I don't like it I think that you know they should just go off and record
new songs because we a new song would be good it would be like listening to a new
band that's fine absolutely fine I mean I think the Amen Amarth Saxon song was
good sounded great exactly as you've just said Victor strangers in the night
is an album that cannot be improved upon so why bother film Mocs got the great
voice for those songs what what has it made me do I'd listen to the Schenker
album I didn't go out and buy the Schenker album I put the I put
strangers at strangers in the night on my Christmas list because I want the out
you know the vinyl version because I've always always had the CD so that's all
it made me do you know it made me realize how great the songs are but they
weren't great that great on that that album that he's just done yeah I mean I
think it's for the musicians the musicians want to do it they don't want
to do it for the fans they're doing it for themselves and that's fine you do it
for yourself we'll have a listen to them but we ain't gonna buy it all right
Johan what do you think agree with the previous speakers but I made me think
of the project that Dave Grohl did back in 2004 Probot where he those were all
original tracks so that's kind of what Brad was saying initially yeah he's
pulling in all of those people and and and I'm sorry to cut you off the that
album to me is fantastic absolutely yeah I mean that on that album they wrote new
songs yeah in the style of the guest artist yep so it's you know let me and
Kronos and yeah King Diamond but with Dave Grohl's music so yeah so that's a
great album absolutely I whenever I step into a music store I check out the peas
just to see if there's if that's on vinyl somewhere I have that on CD hmm
all right and before wrapping things up here I do want to announce that we will
be doing a Queens Drake special next week next Friday we will be voting on
our ten favorite Queens Drake albums and it should be an interesting discussion
what number one might be I wonder right shorter sorry I there's there's good
there's a few albums that are gonna be in the running here because I think
depending on when you jumped on to the band when you when you really got into
them you're gonna have a different opinion some people are gonna it's gonna
be rage for order as Johan said for some people like Jeremy I'm assuming Empire
and have to wait and see yes we'll have to wait and see yeah but I have a
question are we allowed to include the EP that they released initially or should
we leave that one out it's not it's not an album that's a great question I think
you have to include it I think you have to include it because included okay
because it's separate music yeah because the Lady War Black is on there which is
very important and Queen of the Rite both songs that are still played on US
radio surprisingly enough yeah so look at that Tony Espin is saying yes
yes to the EP okay that's a good good thing yeah and I guess we also include
the album Queens Rite which was kind of done by Jeff Tate it was done by
Jeff Tate separately wasn't it but obviously it was under the Queens Rite
banner yeah so that that will get the FU album Frequency Unknown you're right
that is the one because they did it sorry that's yeah that's the one about
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because I was thinking of Todd Littorio because he was on Queens Rite
yeah yeah right there's the Queens Rite EP and there's the Queens Rite album
which features Todd Littorio on vocals
and based on Jeremy's request before going on the air I have just opened this
up yeah here we go and this is what the vinyl looks like
oh look at that that's one side so it's like that is heavy and that's the other
side so as the album spins it is going to make some interesting patterns I will have
to record that yeah ensure it that's a please do that's a thing of beauty Victor
that thing of beauty oh wow this is all right so let me see if I can get the the
plastic off of here without ripping it too bad but don't spoil it live on that
just for us no so all right this is a double gatefold which the original was
not if I if I'm not mistaken yeah I don't remember so yeah because this was
part of this year was part of the lyrics hmm not mistaken and so in here you can
see the the vinyl so that's opened up all right the vinyl right there so I was
told when I picked this all up that there are few copies circulating of this
around and the guy at the record shop said you picked up a lot of stuff that
isn't gonna be available here to Christmas so nice work I hope so there
are other things that I that I left behind the other things that I looked at
possibly picking up Queen Drake's Empire was one of them two of the rat
re-releases out of the cellar an invasion of your privacy but at the end I
think I got a pretty decent haul so those may have to wait until I get back
into the States because they're priced a little bit better in the US oh anyway I
do want to thank my esteemed panel today Johan Brad and Jeremy thank you so much
for for joining us also it's it's not working Brad it's I know I know what's
wrong whatever it is you're trying to make it do it's not working I want to
thank Edgar Winterson who's come back into the fold I want to thank haven't
seen a during while yeah Adele Millie who joined us as well tonight say hey
there and also Tony Espin Tony thank you guys so much for joining us tonight and
once again thank you for supporting the show by being here watching this live or
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