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Welcome one and all to episode 397 of Signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor.

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And for this episode we welcome back Mr. Jeremy Weltman. We will be talking about

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new albums that have been released in the month of September of the year 2024.

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It is great to catch up with Jeremy and we've got some great music talk next.

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I'm ready. Let's do it!

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Before jumping on into the episode I do want to remind you guys that you

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still have a few days left to vote for your favorite albums of 1988. What I'm

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asking people to do is send their 10 favorite hard rock or metal albums. If

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you send me in no particular order whatever the first album that appears is

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going to be your number one. Number one is assigned 10 points. Number two is

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assigned 9 points all the way down to 10 which gets one point. I tally all those

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points up and then come up with the countdown that we will be discussing on

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them are cool some of them not so cool some things I enjoy. Some of them people

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This episode we discuss albums that were released in September of 2024 and it's a

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good month for new music so hopefully this episode helps turn some of you

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people on to some things maybe you didn't know have had come out or bands

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you didn't even know of but a lot of music from this month went into my 2024

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Welcome one and all to the latest episode of signals from Mars. I'm your

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host Victor and joining me is Mr. Jeremy Weltman. Jeremy how are you today sir?

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Yeah good thanks Victor just getting over a little bit of a sort of flu

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COVID type thing but feeling quite good and escaped two hurricanes in Florida

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as well because I was there in between two of them so yeah it's been an eventful

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few weeks. How are you? Well one of those hurricanes has reached me. It hit us

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yesterday a lot of rain a lot of wind thankfully nowhere near as strong as

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what it was in Florida although I do have a street sign that is tilted now

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because of it swaying back and forth from all the wind. So yeah so hopefully

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all of our friends family listeners in Florida are doing well. Supposedly the

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latest hurricane Milton I believe is has been downgraded. Let's hope it's

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downgrading and that it doesn't affect anyone or at least the least

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amount of possible. Yeah absolutely. So we're here to talk about September 2024

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and I have to say a lot of good music came out this month. I was surprised

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there's some weeks where I could almost say you know what this is possibly the

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best week of total releases that was stronger than any other week. Now that

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doesn't mean that the strongest release of the year has come out this month but

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there's still a lot of good music that's come out. So we're here to help you guys

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out let you guys know break free from the rest of the lazy listeners and check

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out some cool music that is coming out that just came out last month. So anyway

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let's start out with September 6th where we had a self-titled release by Blitzkrieg.

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We had Mogs Motel also self-titled. We had Dream Theater keyboard player Jason

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Rudis release permission to fly and we also had releases from God the Throne,

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God is an Astronaut, Timo Tolke, Boston Manor, Moose Cult, Grendel's Sister,

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Phaethon, Black Sun, Pyron I guess, Fame on Fire, Elephant Tree, Nubuleth, Future

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Palace, reissues from our Treu live album from Mr. Big, compilation which I

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need to check out I haven't had a chance to listen to yet, was Fast Eddie Clark

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with Make My Day the rock and roll story of Fast Eddie Clark and various artists

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with Surrender to Death a history of Atlanta metal underground volume one.

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Jeremy what are some of the albums that you listen to this week? Yeah so I

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started out the month listening to Black Sun by Black Sun which is of course the

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very likely pairing of a Finnish and Ecuadorian melodic heavy metal band. I'm

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not really certain about their history to be to be fair but it seems like

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they've added a female singer Netta Loren recently and while inevitably you

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know there's a bit of sort of generic basis to much of this material it's

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actually you know pretty good listen I think overall it's it kind of retains

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that essential heaviness without moving into you know pop territory. If you still

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need persuading I suggest you sort of check out the song Awake which you know

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has sort of added growling and real sort of premium riffing on it so yeah that

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was a big sort of thumbs up for me for you know straight from the off really. I

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then moved on to the the Eagerly Awaited solo album from Phil Mogg, you know Mogg's

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Hotel, Mogg's Motel should I say not Hotel, the band that also features Tony

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Newton as we know and Neil Carter. After all the tragedies that have seen recent years

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including Mogg's Heart Attack as it happens, it's great to hear him sort of

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produce some new music given his age as well you know he's getting on a

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bit now that distinctive voice is still there and it'll really be interesting to

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see if the band does any live shows as well before he finally retires. The album

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itself it's mostly a sort of a very decent hard-rocking album it's certainly

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a little bit distinguishable from UFO which is good in a way but for fans of

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the band you know like myself it's as close as we're ever going to get to a

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bit more UFO as well at least in terms of new music bearing in mind of course

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you know Michael Schenck has re-recorded those sort of UFO classics as well

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recently so I mean that Mogg's Motel could have been my album of the week and

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possibly Black Sun as well really but instead I'm choosing Blitzkrieg by

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Blitzkrieg the New Obum band that were originally from Leicester they're now

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based in Newcastle surprisingly this wasn't the title of their debut many

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moons ago which I you know I had to look back to see because I actually thought

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it was but then I realized I think they did a single called Blitzkrieg back in

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the day and it sort of follows in the footsteps of Lionheart, Grand Slam,

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Prey, Mantis, Demon and other bands this year that you know there's been some

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really strong releases from British bands I think this is the year of the

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British band though I'm gonna suggest you know lots of other bands coming out

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all over the place but you know we don't always get a lot of these sort of bands

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from from the UK all in one year. Blitzkrieg itself has you know it's had

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zillions of band members since 1980 if you have a look on you know you'll see

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them all listed there's humongous amount of band members and it's actually six

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years since their last studio release I confess I haven't heard a lot of them

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since they debuted 1980 and it's not a band that I've really followed but if this is

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anything to go by I really need to go back and listen to some more and I

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haven't had chance yet but I'm hoping maybe over the weekend I might dip in

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and listen to a little bit more it's very up tempo it's old-school quality

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metal it sort of belies there what I suggest we're a little bit sort of

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amateurish beginnings really at you know at the outset fine rhythm section great

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production and you know what's more I think it's a sort of very listenable

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bunch of songs even if you know some of the subjects and lyrics are you know

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fairly well trodden path and it does fade a little bit towards the end but

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you know doesn't mean don't many albums so overall you know I really enjoyed it

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and I'd say that's my pick of the week. Interestingly enough when you mentioned

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Netta from Black Sun I'm like can't be a coincidence because our that's a

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self-released album that's strange that that isn't on frontiers she has been on

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in certain frontiers projects that I've posted on patreon over the years there

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is a video that kind of stood out to us how when I was helping Mark Striegel

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with his patreon stream how could I say this without getting into trouble but

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the video kind of getting to trouble Victor getting to trouble for the fact

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that she was wearing a completely see-through top which was not censored

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at all. There you go. Anyway I purposely did not check out Mog's Motel because I

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did want to hear your review before checking it out I know that I will but I

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got to listen to a few different things I got to listen to Boston Manor, Sun

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Diver that comes from Sharp Tone Records and from Sharp Tone I don't know if it's

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Records or whatever that's Sharp Tone's name and label. Yeah so I've posted

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videos of theirs they released an EP not that long ago which was very 90s

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influenced so it gave me a reason to kind of check the album out and the full

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length was okay it just seemed like it's straight away from what kind of got me

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into the band a little too polished a little too commercial rock for me then I

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checked out Grendel's sister Katabasis into the Abaton this is very new album

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feeling very throwback early 80s sound not bad more like a pub band as you

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would say and I could kind of say the same for the third album that I checked

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out which was from Faith On, Wielder of the Steel very new album power metal

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feel to the whole thing not bad not anything that I'd probably go back and

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check out again I don't know nothing really truly kind of jumped out at me

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but I'll give the edge to Grendel's sister only because it is pure heavy

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metal sounded good

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something that I think is a good listen to how about that I recommend you

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checking it out all right let's move on to September 13th here big week releases

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from Flotsam and Jetsam I am the weapon striper when we were kings crowbot

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obsidian the Jews the Jesus lizard with rack oceans of slumber victory with

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circle of life Satan with songs and crimson

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winter filleth wolf bridge legions of doom Zetra big big train bones UK a

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killer's confession hammer philosophy reissues from Guar live albums from black

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Sabbath the damned and go ahead and die Jeremy what did you check out this week

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yeah well as you say it was a busier week for releases this one and so I

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started out by listening to what we might call the elephant in the room when

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we were kings by striper I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again

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vocalist Michael Sweet is not everyone's cup of tea that's for sure and neither

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is right yeah we know that but the devoutly Christian band certainly rock

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when they want to I would point that out I've never been a particular fan

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myself you know I have listened to Michael Sweet since in his more solo

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stuff you know but you know they sort of emerged among thousands of similar

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sounding bands really at the time but I very much listen to this with open ears

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and I have to say it's an enjoyable holy listen so all I would say I'm not going

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to go on about striper just give them a break

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delve in and you might quite quite enjoy them that's all I'm gonna say so I

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followed that up with I am the weapon by Flotsam and Jetsam now as we know this

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is the band from Phoenix it's very much stayed true to its melodic thrash root

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since the you know the 1980s I know you you like them as well that I mean they've

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been releasing albums every three years in recent times it's their 15th studio

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album now which I you know found quite surprising but then you know that I've

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been going a while yeah you kind of know what you're gonna get as well don't you

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I mean right they have that sort of distinctive sound yeah but you know it's

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what makes them one of those sort of heavy metal comfort blankets that we've

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mentioned before you know which we kind of like on this on this show they you

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know they combine those sort of rehashed thrashy riffs with heaps of what I

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suggest as of you know firewind style melodies and it's hard it's hard really

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not to like them overall I suppose you know it's equally hard to make a case for

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them being the very best album of the year but you know it's an enjoyable

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listening so I'd suggest everyone goes out and has a delve into that one

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Songs in Crimson by Satan another great release this is sort of stripped back

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metal to sort of defying modern production techniques I would suggest

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it's some sort of furious bombastic sort of potent brew mysticism and 80s British

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metal influences it's very different it's low budget it's a sort of glorious

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distinct brand of music that you know has remained quite firmly tied to its

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roots I think I hear cries of amateurish from you Victor but all I can say is

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turn it up and go and see them live and be thankful the basics are still being

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played with such dexterity and enthusiasm in the modern digital age

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definitely give them a listen Satan fantastic you actually put them on your

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on your patreon you know in the patreon group as well so if anyone wants to join

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that patreon group they would get that first as well which is interesting

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Circle of Life by Victory is the one I move on to it's another very pleasant

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listen from the German band that features the former except guitarist

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Herman Frank it's more of the same sort of up-tempo melodic hearted on the

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previous release of Tomorrow which in turn was the first album in a decade

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actually and it marked a second reunion for the band I heard that album the

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previous one on the fine music channel Yarg Metal which we're quite well aware

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of in this on this show and also in your patreon postings as well Victor I

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believe this of course is right in my ballpark which is no surprise to you

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it's just as solid just as tight this album as the previous one and

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sufficiently heavy I would say the sort of music to sort of blast out loud after

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a hard week at work for some listeners maybe Gianni Pontio is an acquired taste

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on vocals but for me he's you know he's quite a perfect fit for this type of

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music and in a world in which you know past masters of the metal world are

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sometimes failing to deliver the goods I'd say this is quite a high octane feast

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that will appeal to you know most hard rock lovers especially if you like bands

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such as you know Corleone that sort of type of music so in that vein

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unsurprisingly it's my pick of the week victory there you go now I have to have

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delivering the goods stuck in my head all right so I listened to a bunch of

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different things this week I listened to the Jesus lizard with rack that's off of

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epic hack that's Mike Patton's label listen to legions legions excuse me of

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doom with the skull three that's off of TP records solid doom release I listened

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to a Flotsam and Jetsam I'm the weapon and I enjoyed it I think you pretty

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much hit the nail on the head there's nothing new that they're doing here you

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know what to expect from the band that isn't a bad thing but definitely you

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know it's a good album the neck the album that is my pick of the week is an

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album that half of it was album of the year material and then the last half

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just tailed off I think the first half of the album is really really good and

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then all of a sudden it seemed like they ran out of ideas the the songs aren't

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bad they're just not as strong as the other half it is the album obsidian by

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crowbot crowbot has tried a lot of years and this is the first time that they've

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come back and truly done something straight-up hard rock I think if you

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how could I put this if you're looking to get a early skid row feel kind of a

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GNR type feel there's a lot of that going on here without being overly you

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know overly 80s LA I think a lot of people will enjoy it so again this is

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my pick for the week it is obsidian by crowbar

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the 20th saw releases from cedar with the surface seems so far night with

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night wish with yester wind Michael Shanker with my years in UFO brand

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Bjork trio with once upon a time in the desert eclipse with maglo manium to on

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to others never never land Charlotte Wenzel the obsession vision divine with

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blood and angels tears brightened eyes with agonies bespoke groza with Nadir

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the black Pacific with here comes our wave reissues from doggy dog with walk

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with me and live albums from skid row live in London and rainbow with live in

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Munich 1977 Jeremy what did you check out this week

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yes I started out the week listening to Michael Shankers my ears with UFO an

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album of rerecorded classics as we know each one with a different vocalist when

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I first heard these I kind of liked it a lot but notably because I thought

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Shanker in sort of injected some life into these tunes mostly by keeping sort

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of true to the originals but also you know giving a bit of a one-take studio

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feel to it and occasional new frills added to the odd song or two it's also

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interesting I thought hearing a range of top-notch vocalists in their own rights

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or trying out these the best for me being Europe's Joey Tempest on only you

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can rock me you know I thought he was good on that I think he'd be good as a

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UFO see here you know overall but much as I enjoyed it I couldn't help thinking

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you know why not just buy strangers in the night and hear the original band

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playing all these tunes because you know that that was there's nothing to match

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Shanker Pete way and film mog all together so it all seemed a bit rather

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pointless in the end if Andy Parker and Paul Raymond as well let's throw them

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there you go yeah there you go add them all in and you've got a great band the

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only thing I can think of you know if he if he does play these live it'll be a

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welcome thing you know it's just a hearing play a whole set of UFO we might

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get on to that topic a bit later as well I moved on to the Swedish band Eclipse

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with their latest release Megalomanium 2 on the heels of Megalomanium that was

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released in 2023 I think I mentioned in your patreon group picture I can't decide

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if I like this band or not I mean I you know I bought I bought wired in 2021 and

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you know I certainly like that album and I think there are sort of very decent

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melodic hard rock outfit when they really rock out in a bit like their

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sort of compatriots heat from Sweden as well I'm not sure sometimes that you know

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they're a little bit wimpy as well on some of the tracks and so but bit of a

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mix I'd say bit of a mix which is fine then listen to blood and angels tears by

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the Italian band vision divine which must be sort of doing something right as

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they've been active since 1999 apparently which shocked me it's

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probably fair to say it's the kind of album you know I do enjoy from time to

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time and you Victor probably don't but hey we're here to promote all types of

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rock in the rock and metal genre and to all listeners as well you know

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they're all different so I think though even you might get a little something

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out of it most of the songs are quite heavy as it happens they're quite

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engrossing and even if progressive power metal is not quite your thing the

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melodies sort of hit home quite well the guitars are fluid you know and for me

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the keyboards are fairly carefully integrated into it without being too

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prominent so you know it's an album with a lot of dubbed vocals mixed in so vying

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for supremacy but I think it all works pretty well to be honest so yeah there's

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obviously going to be generic aspects to this type of music but I think they do

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it well it's an enjoyable listen it's an act that I would certainly listen to on

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a festival bill and for a change I'm gonna pick this one as my album of the

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week okay cool all right so I got to listen to a few of these just to give

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you my take on the Shanker album similar to what you said although there are some

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vocalists that repeat towards the end some of these work really well Joey

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tempest with only you can rock me is really good as you pointed out natural

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thing with D Snyder I liked a lot love to love with Axl Rose I love a lot I

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think you could have a shoebox mic'd on that track and it would still be

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phenomenal I just love that song so much and that main one of the main verse

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riffs is a huge influence on a lot of different guitars who have regurgitated

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that my biggest issue is this lights out with Jeff Scott Soto sounds really bad

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his vocals just destroy the song for me he's singing ultra low which there's

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really no need to do so the two Joel and Turner songs made me think of exactly

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what you said before why would I play this again if I can just put on

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strangers in the night and get that young hungry energy that the original

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UFO had back in the day there are a few others the Michael Voss track as well

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there there are a bunch of vocalists that sound a lot alike and you would

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think okay well they kind of sound like Phil Mogg well they don't they just kind

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of come across the generic singers to me which kind of diminishes the songs a

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little bit but again there are some tracks that I do really really enjoy I

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heard that Eric Cronwall was gonna be the vocalist for the tour at least the

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European like that should be good what else I listed the Bram Bjork trio

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because I did get to interview Bram Bjork years ago with a previous trio

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release and it was okay you know kind of paint-by-numbers stone or rock really

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not terrible but really nothing new that we're listening to here see there I

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think that see there's debut album is one of the best debut albums of all time

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especially from a rock band they've never recaptured that start to finish

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but every album has at least a few tracks that sound great the surface seems

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so far is similar to that it's got three songs that I think made my now there's

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more there's four tracks that made my 2024 playlist here and will ultimately

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go into my see their playlist as well but my pick of the week is on to others

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with never never land man if you're into if you're into like Sisters of Mercy if

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you're into some type of negative it's a mix of gothic rock with straight-up hard

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rock there's a lot of different things going on here and they cover Ramones

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towards the end of the album it's not bad the deluxe versions what I'm what I

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listened to on Apple Music and it does go a little long for me but still I mean

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the album is solid for for the most part so that is on Duna and that's my pick of

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the week cool so moving on to the last week in September we had new releases

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from Richie Cotson with Nomad the return of the Black Dahlia murder with

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servitude oceans with happy be witcher with spell shock Harriet with devour by

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the mouth of hell or devoured by the mouth of hell serious black with rise of

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Akhenaten I don't know how to say that turbo kill with champion high parasite

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with forever we burn awake the dreamer with Holocene also releases from our

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hollow our home ripped to shreds EP's from surge tank in with foundations

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sleep theory with paper hearts reissues from UFO and storm corrosion live album

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from UFO and oh actually I messed that up because there are two reissues from

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the band pentagram as well so for me

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I got to listen to or no let's go to what you got to listen to first I kind

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of dumped the order there sorry I don't care if you want to go first that's fine

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but if you want me to go that's fine as well okay so okay so Nomad by the

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prolific Richie Cotson was a real disappointment to me I can't say you

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know I can't say I followed everything he does it in the past but you know I

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kind of like his heavier moments I like the blues he's done with Iron Maiden

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Axeman Adrian Smith I like his voice you know I've liked some of the stuff in the

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past that I've dipped into there are one or two highlights here on the table is

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you know a kind of a typical Cotson funk rock and when he does that kind of track

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he's a winner you know he's a real winner I like that sort of stuff but

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there just wasn't enough of it here this is too much navel gazing and snoozing on

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the summer veranda to be of any any decent stuff but you know dip in pick

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out a couple of songs for sure but you know you won't like much of the album

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much better though was rise of a Kenaton by Sirius Black this is the melodic

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power metal band that's been active now for a decade as you're no doubt aware by

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now Victor I do like this genre of rock and metal and there are some really good

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songs on this this is their seventh album you know it has some great vocals

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it's pretty well produced you know given that they haven't spent zillions of

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dollars on it at the end of the day it's all about the songs as well and there

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are quite a few here that are worth listening to including Shields of Black

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with its soaring chorus to really remind you there is a you know a hell of a lot

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of good music out there which is why we're here of course doing these

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monthly reviews and it's good new music I'm gonna then move away from that and

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pick something which is a re-release as my album of the week I could have picked

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Sirius Black and you know I want people to go out and listen to it but it was a

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bit of a lean week and the re-release I'm picking is Seven Deadly by UFO it was

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their 20th studio album it was released in 2012 and I think it was a really

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decent bunch of songs from you know the band at the time it actually got to

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number one in the UK rock and metal charts as well so I think it's obviously

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one that appeals to you know the British listener the the re-release

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contains a few bonus tracks but they're nothing special it's really the the ten

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originals that demonstrate the band's talents for you know writing very

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listenable rock tunes sure thing this is far from the heyday songs written with

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Schenker let's let's put that out there you know and let's forget about that you

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know they went past that era but you can't help listening to

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tracks like Wonderland, Burn Your House Down or even Waving Goodbye which you

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know you will have a tear in your eye really knowing that this was a band that

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they kept going through thick and thin through all the lean years when metal

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waned and they laid out the path for all these great new bands that we listen to

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every week and for that reason the late great UFO because they are finished is

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my album of the week.

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Okay cool so I listened to Oceans with Happy that's on nuclear blast, Oceans I

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really like some of their previous music this one kind of just didn't connect

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with me I got to listen to Champion by Turbo Kill that's something that is

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similar to Sirius Black so I recommend you checking it out I also listened to

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let's see the Surge Tankin Foundations EP that's off of Gibson Records that was

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okay probably one of his I don't want to say solid but more like System of a Down

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releases that he's ever put out and my pick of the week is gonna be High

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Parasite with Forever We Burn that is on Candlemask Spine Farm candlelight

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Spine Farm thinking of the band Candlemask so this is an interesting

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album it's got touches of industrial rock it's got touches of extreme metal

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with some guttural like vocals and it's got some over-the-top electronics at

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part in parts and the sorted vocals in parts stuff that really catch my catch

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my ear more so than my eye but yeah so cool album some really cool tracks off

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of it that I enjoyed and was surprised with it I had posted I think at least

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one video on patreon and it's kind of the reason why I checked the album out

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and sounded pretty cool beginning 10 so there you go my pick of the week is High

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Parasite with Forever We Burn real quickly here let's go over our picks the

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first week you picked Blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg by Blitzkrieg I was to say it

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wasn't Mugs Modell I picked the Grendel's sister second week here I went

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with Crobot and Obsidian and you went with Victory with Circle of Life yeah

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third week you went with let's see here Vision Divine Vision Divine with Blood

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and Angels Tears and I went with Onto Others with Never Neverland and the

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final week you went with Sirius Black and well yeah in the end I chose UFO but

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I'm glad you said that because I want to go with Sirius Black Kenaton because

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it's a new music let's go with that it's new music okay okay yeah I was I was

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thinking I wasn't paying attention I wasn't Sirius Black but no okay here's

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black not that I wasn't paying attention I just forgot yeah and and my pick was

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High Parasite with Forever We Burn cool so guys if you haven't checked some of

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these albums out you have your work cut out for you let us know what you think

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and real quickly here as we always enjoy doing we have some other topics and

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questions to discuss and let me just prepare myself to ask these as opposed

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to what I've done up to now long day folks long day anyway so we've talked

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about Shanker and UFO Michael Shanker has floated the idea of doing one more

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show with UFO with doing these tracks

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it's an interesting idea

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yeah man

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given given what we just talked about this new Michael Shanker release if we

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had Phil singing these songs in 2024 would we feel differently about this

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release yes I think I think I would but then again would I need to hear them on

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a record because they've done that record together so you know whether they

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need to actually rerecord them is another thing I think that Phil Mogg's

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voice is so so UFO then anyone else singing it it just doesn't sound quite

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right to me I mean yeah as I said I like the Joey Tempest version I thought

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because Joey's got a great voice he's got a great voice for melodic hard rock

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so he fits in very neatly into that but for me it's it's all about Phil Mogg

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because he's got a very distinctive voice Phil you know he's not he doesn't sound

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like anyone else so the problem with all this is that we know Shank is going out

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on the road doing this anyway with Eric Grumwell so you're gonna get to see them

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live doing that and we know that Mogg's getting on a bit and he's doing this

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Mogg's motel so whether he's gonna want to take out Mogg's motel and just do a

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few dates he sounds as if because he's been

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nearly does want to do too much whether they just do the odd show I don't know

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what they're gonna do maybe do a festival maybe do you know five dates

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around the UK who knows I'd love to see it because

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Shanker and Phil together to me a UFO classic UFO it's the closest we're gonna

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get right and I'm thinking that well as I was listening to these to these songs

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I kept thinking man I miss Phil's voice on this this is too generic like the

420
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,080
playing was great like I'm not gonna take anything away from Michaels playing

421
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:34,120
or even what Slash did on this album and also Joe Hoekstra also guests on it

422
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,040
they're playing is phenomenal but the vocals some of these tracks just fall

423
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:50,680
short I I think Eric is gonna do a good job with this and depending on what band

424
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Michael has around him it could be really cool but I mean even with what

425
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:05,960
he's done with with his temple of rock stuff would would you mind having Phil

426
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:13,680
sing some songs with them with with Robin McCauley and maybe one of the

427
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,840
other vocalists you know maybe swap fill in instead of one of the other guys

428
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,520
that you've seen with them I don't think that's gonna happen I don't want to see

429
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,280
that because I think that I think that if Phil and Shane if Phil of Michael

430
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,200
Shanker get together they'll only play UFO together if that's all that's gonna

431
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,760
happen I mean you got a bare man that Phil Mogg is a very strong character of

432
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,480
his own right and he will he will he won't sing any of Shanker's songs it'll

433
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:49,200
just be it'll just be UFO and I think that's right that would be good but you

434
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,760
know Shanker himself has played UFO songs for years you know he plays three

435
00:44:53,760 --> 00:45:00,200
or four tracks every show he always plays doctor doctor right but he doesn't

436
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200
play it with Phil and it's just interesting that he reached out to him

437
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,600
through the magazine it's almost like he I think I haven't read the article yet

438
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,520
to be honest because I've got the magazine in question so I'm eager to

439
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,480
read it because I think the essence of it is that he's reached out through

440
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,960
managers but hasn't the word hasn't got out to to Phil yet if that's the kind of

441
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,280
essence of it it's one of those you know where they sort of talk through a

442
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,920
through a separate medium because they're trying to trying to put feelers

443
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,120
out it's a question of whether Phil's come through his his heart attack and he

444
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,320
just believes you know I've got a year or two left to do stuff Michael says he

445
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,120
wants to do it with me hey let's do it we can earn a bit of cash here and we

446
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:48,320
can have a bit of fun yeah absolutely and that's that's the whole thing you

447
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,840
know the heart attack can he even tour anymore and like you said you know with

448
00:45:53,840 --> 00:46:01,200
Mugs Motel is it just a few shows that he'll do and that's it maybe he can't

449
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:08,480
even do shows with Michael I don't know yeah so we'll see

450
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:18,360
Iron Maiden doing the 50th anniversary tour in 2025 I have to say I mentioned

451
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:28,320
this today during my VMR podcast I checked out the set list and I was I

452
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:35,040
was personally disappointed because the the press release that they put out said

453
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,920
that they were revisiting like early tracks and and stuff like that songs

454
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,320
that they won't be playing ever again on tour and and I'm thinking oh my god

455
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:53,440
they're gonna bust out to tame a land or you know they're gonna bring out I

456
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,160
don't know the duelists or or something like that the the set list is going to

457
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:10,760
focus on the early on the first few albums going up to Seventh Son yes the

458
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:17,960
first nine albums first nine albums okay this is what they played yesterday I

459
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,400
didn't realize it actually started this part of the tour yet so okay that this

460
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,960
is interesting caught somewhere in time stranger in a strange land the writing

461
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:37,560
on the wall days of future past the time machine the prisoner death of Celts can

462
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:44,040
I play with madness stop stop Victor you've confused the two tours this is

463
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:50,320
the somewhere this is the bat somewhere back in time future past or okay I

464
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,680
think this is a future past or they're still on the next tour is going to be

465
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,720
different it's the first nine albums

466
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:05,680
all right so you're the one you're quoting now has got stuff off the new

467
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:13,600
album it's the future yeah which okay so that's the one I saw that's the one I

468
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:20,680
saw last year right yeah so we haven't got the we haven't got the set list yet

469
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,800
for the new tour which is going to be next year okay so let's let's just see

470
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,880
let me see

471
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:36,920
because I'm not gonna say that okay so you are correct so I'm getting my panties

472
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,520
in a bunch here for no reason whatsoever because this is good this is good because

473
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,200
you're gonna get really excited about the new tour now because you're on a

474
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,240
downer so this is great yeah because it says world tour dates for the 50th

475
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:57,840
anniversary run for your lives tour yeah and this is still future past okay you

476
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:05,240
are correct you are correct sir yeah so I was reading this this set list and I

477
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:15,840
was getting awfully annoyed because I'm you know I was seeing a lot of the new

478
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,760
album here not half as annoyed as me because I sat through that show and I

479
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,520
had to set sit through you know 10 12 minutes songs quite there's a few songs

480
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,960
I'd like death of the cells and a few others you would have hated it but

481
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,160
actually you know it's still maiden it's still live music so you know it was a

482
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,840
good show it was a good show but it wasn't the show that I wanted to see and

483
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,120
the show that want to see is coming up next year I think it's gonna be better

484
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:48,200
definitely better yeah so let's see days of future past the time machine

485
00:49:48,200 --> 00:50:01,560
writing on the wall death of cells and hell on earth so they played five songs

486
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:09,920
off of shit jitsu yeah Alexander the great lasted a you know probably a whole

487
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:17,920
lifetime of a nine-year-old child right here the dark is another awfully long

488
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:26,720
track caught somewhere in time is really long but I love that song yeah but I

489
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:31,760
mean here's here's the here's the thing with this set list

490
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:40,600
yeah fear of the dark you know I used to love that song thought it was great to

491
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:47,720
hear people chanting along with it but by the way right writing on the wall

492
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:51,880
was very good live that's a really good live song it's much better live than on

493
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:58,360
record but but death of the cells you could you know you can dispense with

494
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:05,640
that one that's fine yeah so so that's the thing you've got five songs plus

495
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,920
Alexander the great fear of the dark that's like an hour's worth of music

496
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:18,920
right there yeah those those six seven songs yeah why are they closing on

497
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,240
wasted years which is like three minutes long the trooper which is four minutes

498
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:30,320
long iron maiden which is two minutes a lot you know it doesn't even get the

499
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:37,880
three minutes yeah just closing out with a few hits but I guarantee next year's

500
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:44,840
tour is gonna be something special it's gonna be great I'm hoping I'm hoping

501
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:52,800
yeah let's let's hope I don't end up sticking my foot in my mouth again and

502
00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:00,360
if I do well hope hope it's because they're they're actually doing what they

503
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,120
promised yeah

504
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,760
speaking of maiden let's talk about reissues

505
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:19,480
because reissues and shipping of albums there's a there's a local place that's

506
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:28,560
handling all the reissues of the first the first seven maiden albums and the

507
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:38,120
prices aren't bad they're like between 22 to 26 euros Amazon has the last year's

508
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,200
reissue or two years ago reissue of number of the beast which is a triple

509
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:51,560
album and cost 84 euros which is just ridiculous you know this is this is what

510
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:58,320
I don't get and it will be my constant gripe with Iron Maiden they've released

511
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:06,360
and re-released their albums countless times and nobody gives them shit over it

512
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:12,960
and it isn't cheap either enough and

513
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,800
killers for example they released they were released killers in the US oh it's

514
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,680
it's a reissue of the original killers released in the US so it's missing

515
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:34,040
Twilight Zone sake why would you do that why the release of number of the beast

516
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:39,200
no longer has total eclipse on it because the original didn't have it you've been

517
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,960
selling it like that for 30 years release it with total eclipse come on

518
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:54,040
yeah besides that these shipping costs are just

519
00:53:54,040 --> 00:54:00,880
way too much so what was your recent experience with that yeah it was an album

520
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,240
I wanted to buy I mean it was the shipping costs I can't remember the exact

521
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:10,000
price now but we're looking at 30 odd euros shipping cost us around 30 euros

522
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,960
so you know it's a price of an album just to ship it I mean it's just

523
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,800
ridiculous and then you add that on to the price of the album which wasn't

524
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,120
cheap I mean it was a you know it was a special edition type you know with a

525
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,160
nice colored vinyl which you know we like to collect obviously if we're gonna

526
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,040
have a choice between black or colored vinyl we like a nice color vinyl

527
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,440
because we're you know proper metal fans and you know we want to we want to keep

528
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,640
those albums and play them and show them off and whatever we want to do with them

529
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,320
you know we're into that sort of stuff but we don't want to be taken to the

530
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,520
cleaners over this either I mean you know we were talking I think just around

531
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:56,600
the time just after the you know the pandemic albums were like $20 or 20

532
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:03,320
quid or 20 euros weren't they and you'd pay 24 25 for a colored one and now

533
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,720
you're looking at 30 35 but then it's the shipping on top and like you say

534
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:13,160
some of the Iron Maiden ones I've seen them for like 60 pounds 65 pounds for

535
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:20,280
the current album Senjutsu what is going on here you know and then I went to

536
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,560
America and I went to Walmart other shops are available but you know

537
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,720
Walmart is the one available that's selling them cheap you know you can get

538
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:35,880
an ACDC gold release Highway to Hell I think it was $24 in there you know site

539
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,800
20 quid there you go that you got one you got a Metallica one that's fantastic

540
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:54,920
2297 there you go that is a reasonable price for an album perfect you want to buy it and

541
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:01,240
I mentioned to you off the air the other day and justice for all double-green

542
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:11,240
album yeah 2797 so it's 24 pounds in the UK for a double colored vinyl it's

543
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,600
fantastic from a big band as well we're not talking a small band here that's

544
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:25,000
that's 50 euros in Europe yeah that same release agree on it is 50 euros yeah the

545
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,280
re-released a limited edition re-release that's coming out in Europe for

546
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:38,520
somewhere in time with the future past poster and yellow vinyl cost me $29 in

547
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:46,400
Walmart I saw that they're re-releasing it here in Europe it costs I think it's

548
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:56,240
70 mm-hmm it's $29 in the US yeah yeah so you know yeah go no they're forcing

549
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:01,480
they're forcing people to do this stuff they're forcing people again we mentioned

550
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:09,400
this a bunch of times you're forcing people to not buy if you sell it for a

551
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:16,160
reasonable price people will buy it but if it comes to the point and and they're

552
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,560
taking advantage that they have fans that are willing to plop down the money

553
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:27,240
people that are our age or older yeah willing to shell out the money because

554
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:32,840
they're collecting it and oh I need to have this edition this is the only

555
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:41,720
edition of number of the beast that I do not own so I must have it Jesus so so I

556
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:50,680
think it's the management the the labels you know the and the band obviously

557
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,120
they're not gonna come out and say you know don't buy it because you know it's

558
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,120
helping heat their pool essentially it's helping them through their third and

559
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:08,760
fourth marriages with some of those members but man stand up for your fans

560
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:16,160
and say no it's enough we don't need to do this we you know okay because I can't

561
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,880
imagine that they're selling all of this stuff well you know what happens to the

562
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,880
picture this reissues that they did a few years back what happens to all the

563
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:30,760
CD reissues there that it's it's madness yeah you're saying can I play with

564
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,800
madness so do you remember a few years back Victor people used to give away

565
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:41,000
CDs because they were earning money live and you know we ever gonna get to the

566
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:47,040
stage where they might just give away some vinyl that shows because they you

567
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,080
know that they're earning the money from the shows these big bands they don't

568
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,440
need to the I remember you to the they gave away their latest album the CD you

569
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,400
know they just said you can get hold of it for free well I think they used it as

570
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,680
well I've got a muse CD which I think was free that you to album was not

571
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:13,000
great no it wasn't but you know that they didn't issue it on that basis that's

572
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,200
the one really yeah yeah it wasn't wasn't a great album but then again you

573
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,920
know you might say the same of Book of Stools but I bet you'd you'd applaud the

574
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:30,960
fact if they gave away free yeah I would for the fans who want it yeah yeah yes

575
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:39,200
that that I do think you know that's that's about how much that album is

576
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:49,240
worth so yeah I'm just scared that they're gonna that that that they're

577
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,000
just gonna price people out of a lot of this stuff they need to really be

578
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:01,840
conscious about what what they're charging people for for this stuff you

579
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:08,400
know they can't cry oh well Napster and this and that and no now it's you guys

580
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,040
pushing people towards streaming because people just can't afford it we've said

581
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:22,400
this time and time again kids are not gonna spend all their money on an album

582
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:29,400
no they're gonna they're gonna pay 20 bucks a month to stream countless albums

583
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:35,680
and that's it that's just how it is yeah and some bands they only produce a few

584
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,640
hundred albums now there's not the days whether you were selling shedlows there

585
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,160
some bands are just issuing a limited edition of a few hundred and if me and

586
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:50,760
you Victor are saying we won't buy them with their core purchases yeah yeah yeah

587
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:56,600
we're the ones they need to listen to us they need to listen to your show I hear

588
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:03,400
what we're saying we're crying out to them we are listen to us because we want

589
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:13,520
to buy your stuff just price it right correct I agree we do have one more

590
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:19,680
topic but we don't have time to discuss it we will discuss it during a future

591
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,720
episode Jeremy I do want to thank you for joining me today it is always a

592
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:32,880
treat to discuss music with you and for those that are listening you have your

593
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,200
work cut out for you check out these recommendations and if if those don't

594
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,960
work for you just check out some of the other albums that that are rattled off

595
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:47,200
tonight so on that note we will be ending the episode we appreciate you

596
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,120
joining us and we will see you next time right here on signals from Mars see you

597
01:01:53,120 --> 01:02:17,000
folks