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Welcome one and all to episode 390 of Signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor

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and for this episode we welcome back Jeremy Weltman. He's in the UK and he's

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one of the most frequent concert goers that I know. He goes to shows all the

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time. We're gonna talk about what shows we've seen collectively so far this year.

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We're gonna talk about shows that we're going to be seeing and others that are

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being talked about online.

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I do want to thank you for joining me today for this episode. Joining us

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because Jeremy is on the show as well. I've seen a lot of bigger shows mention

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meet up with some of the weeks that I missed. So this past week I released

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Welcome one and all to another episode of signals from Mars. I'm your host

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Victor and joining me today is Mr. Jeremy Weltman. Jeremy how are you? Hi

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Victor, yeah doing really well thanks. We've got lovely summer's day here or

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summer's evening as you can probably just see from behind me. So yeah doing

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good. What about yourself? I'm doing good as well. Very interesting that you have

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the double-pronged attack there of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden going on. Too bad

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that we've discussed recently on the show whether it comes to the the sphere in

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Las Vegas, whether it comes to concert touring. I mean there's been so much

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talked about in the past about getting these two bands to tour with one another

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once again. That said let's talk about some shows that we've seen this year

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already and maybe towards the end of the show we can talk about things that we've

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we'd like to see. So Jeremy what are some of the actual concerts that you've been

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able to see this year? Okay yeah well I'll actually probably come to Judas

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Priest in a moment because they were one of the bands that I did see in back in

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March but we'll take February 1st because that was my first concert of the

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year. I went down to Manchester Academy. I went to Manchester Academy 3 which is

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quite a very you know quite a small venue really. I would think no more than

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four or five hundred people in there at any one time but the amount of people

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that were actually in there for this show probably less than a hundred so it

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was a very very small gig but there were four great bands on it was a new wave of

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British heavy metal night so there was four bands there was Girl School,

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Alcatraz, Raven and Air Force. Air Force are Doug Sampson's band who obviously

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likes to talk up his contributions via Maiden at some point but anyway I'll

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take you through the bands. Air Force were on first obviously they were the support

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band and they were really really good. They were a proper new wave of British

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heavy metal band they played that sort of style they played a lot of sort of

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military based music you know with those sort of themes. There were chunky riffs

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and they had a really really good vocalist who sounded really like Bruce.

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In fact I saw him in the toilets after the gig you know in between the

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bands and I said to him you know you're gonna be the guy who replaces Bruce

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when it comes down to it if he ever leaves Iron Maiden and they want to carry

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on you're the guy and he looked at me as if you know I was on a different

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planet but you know he kind of I think he liked the compliment. He was a

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Portuguese guy actually very young whereas the rest of the band were you

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know quite old. So anyway they were on first and they got off the gig off to a

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really good start I quite enjoyed their stuff and then the next band on was

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Alcatraz because the other three bands were rotating who was going to be the

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the headliners so they drew lots each night to decide what was

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gonna get what was gonna happen. So Alcatraz were on next and they were very

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very classy I mean Joe Stump was amazing on guitar really amazing to see him I

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was very close to watching you know watching what he was doing and in

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between the acts all the bands sort of mingled with the very small crowd so

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you got a chance to sort of you know say hello or get your merchandise signed

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really nice thing to do. Alcatraz played all their sort of stuff off the last two

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albums and Doogie White was on form I mean he was really interacting very well

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with the crowd he was walking around as well all the time and talking to people

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and they seemed to really enjoy it you know they really enjoyed the gig and

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then after them Raven came on. I've seen Raven before and they're the

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favorite band of mine and they were amazing really amazing you know there's

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just the three of them on the stage the two Gallagher brothers on bass and

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guitar and they look old now but they don't half move they don't ask exactly

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as they used to and they played a you know a lot of the hits that you've heard

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on you know all the early albums a few new tracks and really again a band that

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really looked like they were really enjoying themselves so really enjoyed

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them and then Girl School came on and played what Girl School do you know they

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again they were playing a lot of the old hits that they had from the you know the

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80s I didn't see the whole show I actually left I had to leave because I

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had to get a train home and obviously the four bands on so I only saw about

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half their set which was a bit of a shame because I was enjoying them as

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well so it was a really cheap gig or four bands I came home thinking I

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really want to see that again so if there's any small bands out there they

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want to club together and do that sort of thing it's a really good thing to do

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so that I saw that gig in February but I'll pass it pass the baton over to you

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before I mention any more and see what you what you've seen yeah interesting

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that you leave things off with with that last bit there you know that you'd be

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interested in seeing that bill or something similar to that for that price

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point the last show that we saw back in May I believe it was May at this point

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yes was Markie Ramones Blitzkrieg who's coming back around in November and I

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told my wife I said you know they're playing 45 minutes away we enjoyed that

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show but would we want to see that show again you know would would you be

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willing to pay 35 euros per person to see him do the same exact set list to

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all the same shit that we just saw and it'll probably be a bigger crowd and so

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it'll be slightly different and she said to me she said well I think that's one

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of those shows where you see them once and you kind of get your I go okay I

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could go either way that's fine so so yeah it was Markie Ramone there was an

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opener that was a national act Markie was clearly the headliner because once

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he came on stage the venue filled out with people he's obviously why he's

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obviously the drummer he's extremely old he's still playing a lot of the parts

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like he used to I mean none of these songs are being played at half you know

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or have to paste on what they were before it was a great show it was an

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energetic show was exactly what I expected and what I wanted I have seen

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the Ramones in concert and I have to say this was probably better than seeing

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them only because it seemed like Joey and Johnny Ramone just wanted to get the

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hell out of the venue and wrap up as soon as possible so Joey's vocals for

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the most part were illegible now with this show they're singers from here in

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Spain so it was it was interesting to see him interact with the crowd and and

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say some things it was funny because my wife at first says to me what's he say

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you know he he has to be from from the area to know about that specific term

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that he's saying and afterwards somebody said yeah he's from like two hours away

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he's from part of the Basque Country and he's been in like a million bands so he

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knows how to you know talk up a crowd so that made a lot of sense so it was

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again it was a cool show was 37 songs in 90 minutes I sent along for 35 and 37 and

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it was cool it was it was really good I hope that they end up you know coming

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back around here and then I again 40 minutes isn't that far away but I hope

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that they continue bringing shows around similar to that to the venue where where

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we went to to see whereabouts was that show then what was the place called where

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was that okay so the place translated into English in Spanish it's called

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Escenarios Santander which is Santander stage basically so this is a they built

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a park where a bunch of marshland was okay and in part of that park they built

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a venue and the venue probably holds I mean I would think if you max it out I

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don't know 2,000 people maybe I'll have to look it up but it's kind of set up

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cool to which if it's a big show and the weather's good the entire back of the

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venue opens up so that you can potentially play out to a bunch of

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people sitting in the grass and part of the park I don't know if they've done

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that before but it is possible this venue has had in vain Mountstein in the

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past it's had Dio Disciples Nashville pussy played there recently gun played

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there recently they have all types of tribute bands that are playing there I

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think it's a it's a cool venue not only because it's 20 minutes away from my

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house but again the prices are fairly good and the atmosphere is good for

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shows especially in a place that really isn't a rock music place the drinks are

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kind of expensive but you know nothing compares to I'm sure drinks in London or

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drinks in the US so that's interesting to hear people say yeah it's three

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drinks for for ten bucks I'm like yeah in the States are probably paying 15 for

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one beer so yeah

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was there yes was there any support with that with that act so is it it was a

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national act that I that no like there was one guy jumping around for the for

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the band he was probably a friend of the band I don't recall their name I do

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remember they sang I believe in Spanish English and in Basque so whenever you do

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anything in Basque in my province it's like the proverbial fart in church so

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not too many people are keen with it so yeah sounds a good gig sounds good yeah

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it was fun cool well like what others go ahead what other shows did you see

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outside of outside of the one that you just yeah I'm gonna leave the the best

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one to last the one I saw in March which this band involved so I'll nip to the

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nip to May where I saw an ACDC tribute act in my local town I've seen them

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before the good live wire ACDC and they are extremely good if you cannot afford

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to see ACDC and you haven't you know obviously they don't play very often

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either they're on tour at the moment though they will be playing a few dates

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in the UK but obviously it's really expensive to see ACDC now and that

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they're not the full band we've talked about this before you know and we've

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seen the clips on on various online places so yeah this is they're a great

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band they play a lot of the hits but they played a few deep cuts as well this

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time the Angus Young guy really plays Angus Young properly I mean he's a bit

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tall he's a bit taller than Angus and he looks younger as well now that Angus is

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all white and you know grey but they're fantastic and this time they only

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had a Brian Johnson singer normally I've seen them they sometimes you know they

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have two singers or they have the one singer who does both you know you'll

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sort of change and he plays plays both but it was just Brian Johnson but he was

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really like him had the t-shirt on and he had the cap on and he had the

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Geordie accent and it was a really really enjoyable evening took a few

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people locally who had not seen them before and they really thought they

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sounded like them and again cheap cheap gig I think it was no more than probably

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15 pounds to see them they're on for you know a couple of hours and at the end

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they have a couple of little cannons they fire off just like the real ACDC

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it's really great the Malcolm Young as well looks fantastic I mean he he looks

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like Malcolm Young as well you know he's got everything down to what Malcolm was

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like so it's a really good tribute and it's a tribute to people who have died

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in the band you know which is another thing so yeah I really enjoyed that and

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I think there is a room you know for some tribute acts some of them are not

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very good but some of them are really good and you know if you if you get to

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see one I am actually going to see another one this Friday I'm going to see

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Limehouse Lizzie again which I've seen before you know a thin Lizzie tribute

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band and they're really good as well they even have it so they've got a lead

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singer bassist who is black just like Phil Lightner so you know the the

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attention to details amazing yeah so yeah enjoy the ACDC live wire really

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good yeah and that's an interesting point because I've mentioned several

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times I've been in a tribute band in the past and some musicians don't care for

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the for the whole tribute gig because their argument is well I'm not being a

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lot in shows or you know or I'm not selling albums but this tribute band is

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helping push copies of such-and-such a band or you know again they're consuming

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up nights where they'd like to be doing shows I've never had even before I was

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in a tribute band I never had an issue with it because I think that they're

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always honoring the legacy of the bands that they're basically imitating there

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have been times where I've seen some of these bands where it's been god-awful I

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think I mentioned this to you where we had a Michael Shanker tribute come

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through and hearing them sing I don't remember if it was ready to rock or what

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it was anyway the lyrics were not legible the playing was great the the

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musicianship was awesome but the lead singer was just scatting scatting scat

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in Spanish basically so what was was not good so obviously you don't have an

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issue with tribute bands a lot of times too similar to what you said some of

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these bands no longer tour or don't come close enough to you yeah so I don't have

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an issue with with so long as they do it well I don't have an issue with people

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doing tribute bands or being cover bands because people a lot of times want to go

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out want to see familiar things they're familiar with let's say and it can help

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open up your horizon to bands that maybe you've never heard of a lot of times we

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neglect to remember that not everyone is a music nerd like we are you know yeah

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did again obviously you've gone to see a few tribute bands in the past do you

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have an issue with bands doing that I don't have an issue with them at all

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because the first thing is obviously if you don't want to see the tribute band

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you don't have to go and you know if you want to go and see the real band and you

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want to save your money up and go just go and see the real band that's fine if

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you want to see the real band and the tribute band that's fine and if you just

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don't want to see the tribute band so I want to see the real band because it's

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too expensive it's far away and as you say they may be dead they may not be

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here they may not be touring anymore I mean I've just recently I say recently

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last year I saw a kiss tribute band and obviously kiss I'm never gonna see live

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again I'm you know that they will have that avatar situation which they're

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gonna bring out and I may want to go and see it who knows but you know just

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actually see some guys dressed up and playing kiss songs and having you know

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a fun time and it's only costing me 15 pounds or whatever it was why wouldn't I

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want to do that just for you know an evening out you don't have to judge

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them based on the original band either you can judge them based on you know

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that they're doing a good job of it and if they play the hits they play the hits

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if you play a few deep cuts they do that you know there's lots of different

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angles to it as you say some bands are not very good I've seen one queen I've

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seen a Queen tribute band that really wasn't very good but you know I won't

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go and see them again but it won't put me off going to see other tribute bands

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I've said Limehouse Lizzie I'm gonna see on Friday I've seen them about four

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times before and they are absolutely like Thin Lizzie so if you know and who's

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gonna see Thin Lizzie anymore I mean first of all where is John Sykes he's

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not here and and neither is you know a few of the other band members and of

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course Phil sadly is departed so it's never gonna really happen we've heard

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about maybe Scott Gorham going on the road and doing it again but it's not

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happened yet so yeah I'm in favor of it it's a cheap night out for people and

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like you say that's a good point it gets people into music and that's always a

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good thing people will always go back to the back catalogs once they've watched

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a band I do it you probably do it as well you come home after the gig you

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start going through all the old albums again and thinking oh I remember that

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song but what's the rest of the album like and I think a lot of people do that

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and that's why the bands themselves like tribute bands of themselves because

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they know they're gonna sell albums through it as well right and they

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technically get a kickback as well so I mean it's making a little extra money

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without not really having to do much yeah yeah yeah I never understood when

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Scott Gorham left blacks black star writers yeah yeah that that his first

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thing was oh but I'm gonna you know I'm bringing thin Lizzie back and my thought

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was like really like what lineup who you know cuz last lineup had essentially the

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the guys that are in black star writers plus they had Troy Sanders on bass and

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and I thought as much as I love Troy and as much as he loves thin Lizzie it was

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it just seemed like an odd pairing for me also has Scott looked well to you

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yeah yeah no well he's an old guy now isn't he I mean he's quite old right

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but he's always seemed older than his actual age because of all the substance

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abuse issues that he had yeah yeah so yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah so it was just

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odd you know to me it was like okay well he's leaving BSR he's probably gonna

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chill out and just take advantage of whatever time he has left no I'm just

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I'm bringing thin Lizzie back really okay he's also doing a lot of art at the

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moment he's touring his his own personal art in the UK okay so that's one thing

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he's doing but yeah he did mention about who he'd actually have in thin Lizzie he

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I think he did say he was gonna talk to Brian Downey obviously Darren Walker

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buttons around because he's in that other band as the dare and he's still

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touring so there's a couple there and in the past he's had Marco Mendoza

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on bass as well so right who knows maybe they'll do summer gigs next year that's

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the sort of thing that they might do you know just do a few one-offs it's quite a

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few UK festivals here where they could headline with a thin Lizzie act and and

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they'll make a good amount of money yeah yeah I mean they were gonna do it

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through COVID that you know during the COVID year that I think they got

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canceled I was actually gonna go and see them because they were gonna do one near

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me it was a funny kind of show as well because it wasn't just a rock or metal

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festival it was one of those you know had a lot of pop acts on various other

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stuff they were gonna do a headline there yeah he's had some interesting

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lineups he's had Vivian Campbell like I said Troy Sanders you mentioned Marco

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Mendoza a lot of big-time players that under just odd seeing them fit into what

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what they're doing with him as you but see they've left a mark on a lot of

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people he's obviously spending a bit of time looking for John Sykes because that

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will take that's probably consuming all his time so what is the mystery show

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from March that you wanted yeah so I finally got a ticket and I was very

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lucky really the show was pretty sold out and I was kept looking and looking

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and eventually I managed to get a ticket on the fourth row on the you know right

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at the front in the middle a single ticket to see Judas Priest in Birmingham

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so that was fantastic it was at the Birmingham World Resort Arena which

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used to be the NEC it's obviously a hometown hometown gig for Priest you

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know it's fantastic big arena and I was really excited really looking forward to

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this and it didn't let me down at all because they were supported obviously by

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Saxon and Uriah Heap as well so Uriah Heap came on first he played about seven

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songs Mitt Box obviously has been around since the Middle Ages so you know he

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knows what he's doing they they were really sounded good Uriah Heap they

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certainly hadn't dulled their sound or muffled it in any way and I went to the

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toilets after and there was a guy in front of me who was a similar age and he

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just looked round at me and said that was good wasn't it and I said yeah yeah

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it was it was great and they were they were they were really good really good

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support act so they were on and then Saxon came on and did you know

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probably about an hour or so of a set they obviously have Brian Tatler on

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guitar now and he fit into the band really well you know I mean it's

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obviously the same era the same age so and he knows the Saxon songs so they

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played a lot of the hits they played about four songs off the new album they

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played Roswell they played the the the title track they played 1066 and they

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played Madame Guillotine they were all played really well they all sounded like

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they did on the album Biff's voice was brilliant they finally got all the crowd

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around me to stand up because they'd been sitting down for Uriah Heap you know

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there's quite an old crowd on the floor but you can imagine I was standing up

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straight away from Saxon start and I was kind of like the only one on my own at

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the front near the front and then eventually people started standing up a

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bit more and you know enjoying it so yeah Saxon sounded great they they

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really always put on a good show and really got the crowd going with all the

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hits you know the usual stuff Wheels of Steel all that's all that's kind of stuff

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and then Judas Priest came on and I was very impressed by them I'd seen them you

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know three four maybe five times before over the years you know over a long time

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and Rob Holford was looking in good form I thought he was better than when I last

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saw him obviously when I last saw him he'd only just recovered from his cancer

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so we know that that would have really hit him a lot this time I thought he was

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you know he still looked old but I thought he moved a little bit better he

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was singing was amazing and I don't know whether it was helped a lot by you know

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that we know all the bands get a little bit of help with everything nowadays but

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I think that you know his singing was amazing and I thought that the

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guitarists really gelled together much better this time as well whereas the

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first time I saw them Andy Sneap was you know fairly new to the band but this

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time I thought the two of them were really on song and at the end Glenn

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Titon came on for three songs he's not a well man I mean they were they were

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holding him before you know on the side before he came on and he sort

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of you know he looked as if he enjoyed it but he can't move very well he's very

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slow taking his toll Parkinson's disease now on him but no that it was a great

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show they had a great backdrop they played a lot of hits again they played

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some new songs off the new album which were you know sounded really great and

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everybody left the show with smiles on the faces and you know really had a nice

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time great great to see them you never know if it's the last time with a band

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like that because you know you just don't know so if it was great way to go

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out but if it isn't I'll be looking forward to seeing them again

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well what was the breakdown and who played how long you mentioned that you

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right he yeah yeah so from this is from memory because it's it's now back in

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March but you're right he were probably on for about 35 minutes that sort of

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time I think Saxon were on for probably about well they were on for an hour at

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least an hour and maybe an hour and 10 you know around that sort of time and

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priest were on for probably an hour and three quarters okay which almost two

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hours for for priest that's yeah that that's that's interesting okay and it's

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interesting the the other times you know Saxon getting an hour I'm trying to

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think of when I saw them previously the order was Saxon Motorhead priest so it's

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interesting that Saxon was the second band on the bill there and also I'm

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guessing that with your I heap they're probably flip-flopping who's the opener

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who's the middle act well no not in this case no your I were actually set to be

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the opener on all of these gigs and there's a good reason for that actually

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in the UK is that Saxon are the bigger band your I heap do appeal to the sort

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of slightly older crowd now you know fans who are probably in their 60s and

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70s whereas you know Saxon are still appealing to sort of my age group which

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is sort of you know 50s because it's it's the time period you kind of got

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into the band I guess right but I would say definitely Saxon are much bigger

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band than your I heap in the UK and that's that's sort of validated by the

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chart placing for the album as well which got into the you know to the UK

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charts cool that's yeah that listen they they've always had a following I'm not

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the hugest fan of the band but I've recognized their their following

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because I know a lot of people that are into them and and and and just deserved

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I've seen them two three times in concert I believe but never because I

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paid to see them just because they just happen to be on the on the festival

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so yeah you have what seemed like sconeys sunny skies up to recently and I

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have what sounds like rolling thunderstorms coming through my eyes

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yeah yeah it's a European problem I think that sometimes in the summer is

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that I got yeah absolutely all right so the only other show that I've seen this

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year really not metal really not hard rock I do think that this band has

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immensely influenced a lot of hard rock and metal bands through their lyrics

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through their dark imagery through working with Anton Corbin who Metallica

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later did it was the Peshmoat it was a band that was a bucket list for me I

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didn't think we'd be we'd end up seeing them we had tickets years ago and never

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went because we had a dog that a dog that had been poisoned so you know we

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kind of didn't feel right about going to see the show it was a great show it was

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exactly what I would expect from them just the whole production the songs that

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they picked were great they pretty much played all areas of of the band they

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played almost one song per album certain albums got more than one and their new

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album they had four or five songs that they played with they they led off with

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three new songs so I mean and that's I think what it should be you should be

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proud of the music that you just recorded it shouldn't be a throwaway just

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to get people to buy products no I think you should stand behind that those

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tracks and and play them you know so yeah I wish other bands would would

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would take notice obviously Iron Maiden has with them playing 319 minutes long

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yeah incredible yeah I've I've always felt that they've kind of crossed over

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into rock they've they have some overtones with guitar driven songs and

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with stuff that isn't exactly dancy as some people would know them for I know

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that bands have covered them within the hard rock and metal community so that's

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why I'm confident to say that you know it's not that far off from what we we

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normally listen to it is but it really is it's interesting point you make

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really because when I was younger obviously to Pesh mode we were with that

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sort of new romantic movement of the 80s but obviously they've released much

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heavier material really more rockier material over the over the years but

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there may maybe people who've not really got into that because they've really

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sort of seen them as a different type of act altogether and interesting was that

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you it probably was the case live that they come across as a different type of

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act than the one that was you know off the 80s I guess well I think a lot of

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people would be surprised I'm not surprised because I followed the band

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and I have I don't know how many blue rays and DVDs but they play live they you

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know I know that some people have said to me oh well you know it's all taped or

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it's whatever I'm like what whether it is or not it seems like they're playing

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their instruments and that they're doing it well they've always from

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violator onward violator

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maybe it's songs of faith and devotion they've always kind of performed as a

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band after

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who was it I want to say Andy Fletcher but Andy Fletcher is the guy that just

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passed away

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let's see band members it is Alan Wilder when Alan Wilder left in 95 they added a

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permanent drummer to the band also added a what a third keyboard player

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basically and now that Andy Fletcher passed away he's become the second

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keyboard player so I mean for the most part they were a four piece I don't

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think they had any backing vocalists I don't recall them having it but maybe

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that could be my old man brain not remembering it at the moment but yeah

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they have a they have a special bond with the crowd too especially now that

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it's say that my t-shirt that I picked up it's just Dave Gahan and Martin Gore

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so yeah and even with that I mean you listen to something like that we've

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heard a million times over something like personal Jesus is a blues guitar

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part mixed into that he does plenty of slide guitar not anything that's really

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fancy but just to accent songs yeah I think it's helped endear them to a

422
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,440
larger audience and their their lyrics definitely have and and again when songs

423
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,520
of faith and devotion came out people won ape shit oh this this is a rock

424
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:11,280
album it isn't you know a pop album and they've kind of meandered the line for

425
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,440
for the last few albums a hell Delta machine was recorded down in in New

426
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Orleans New Orleans and and it was a heavily guitar driven album I mean

427
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,440
there's no shredding on it per se but definitely a lot of guitar being used

428
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:37,240
throughout the album yeah yeah and presumably it was a it was a packed

429
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:41,880
arena there was it I mean where was it actually played at it wasn't Bilbao

430
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Spain at the Bilbao Expo Center I've been there for for priest I've been

431
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:54,680
there for priest yeah for priest saxon and motorhead so this is a big arena

432
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:02,600
that um it's fairly big it's for the Peshmoat I believe there was 12,000

433
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,480
people there so it's yeah it's a decent crowd yeah yeah when I saw priests there

434
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:20,680
it was around 8,000 yeah so they had several sections roped off with the

435
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Peshmoat they only had the section closest to the stage closed off

436
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,400
everything else was had people in so shows how popular and act like that is

437
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,960
now yeah yeah really popular yeah because they've sort of renewed their

438
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,080
the way they do stuff all the time as well that's the thing yeah I'm producing

439
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:51,400
good music what's that I'm producing good music right right and that's the

440
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,280
thing with with you know I talk about lazy listeners all the time there's

441
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,960
plenty of lazy musicians that tour after tour they just play the same material so

442
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:04,280
why are you gonna go out and see them whereas again the Peshmoat is playing

443
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:12,040
four to five new tracks every show plus they're rotating their their album you

444
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:18,160
know their classics in and out of the setlist as well so I think that they

445
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,320
they know how to work their crowd they know how to work their craft to the

446
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:29,320
point where they're continuing to sell tickets year after year because of that

447
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
because you're seeing a different show every time because you're hearing

448
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:40,520
different songs all the time that's that's definitely a that that's

449
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,880
definitely something that they do well and they do right yeah yeah and on this

450
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,760
show you always promote smaller bands so let's hear about the support act as

451
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:57,040
well is there a support band there was not there wasn't okay all right the

452
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:08,860
intro was just a few minutes of a repetitive like dance beat okay so so

453
00:45:08,860 --> 00:45:14,160
how long were they on for then they must be done quite a while it was like two

454
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:23,320
hours yeah yeah cool yeah it was it was what it was what I expected you know I

455
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,720
know that in the past they've played longer but I mean I wasn't expecting

456
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:41,200
them to to do more than that this show also marked my kids first shows and

457
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:48,080
also my oldest was there with a broken leg yeah so that was a challenge I

458
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:54,000
started coming down with some sort of virus so some stomach bug while at that

459
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,960
show so close to the end of the show I was not feeling good at all I was very

460
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:05,480
worn down so I'll remember it for that as well but overall it was a great

461
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,360
experience for everyone that one at least from this household yeah yeah we've

462
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,840
all been at those shows haven't we were we're not felt well and we've not wanted

463
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,960
to go and yeah you've all you need to go because you have those memories that

464
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,000
will last forever and you've got the ticket stub and there and whatever else

465
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:31,160
and yeah just the memories of the show and yeah yeah I agree that sounds great

466
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,480
yeah agree 100% what other shows are you looking forward to seeing this year yeah

467
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,520
well I was hoping to maybe nip down to London to see a couple of shows but I

468
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,680
didn't manage to do it in the end really strange because ZZ Top and

469
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,880
Scorpions both played or I know Scorpions have played I think ZZ Top is

470
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,800
coming up just one show in the UK this year and they're just doing London so

471
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,640
it's very difficult to get tickets it's difficult to get down there so I would

472
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,000
have really you know enjoyed seeing those two but it's not to be this year I

473
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:14,520
have got a ticket though to see the cult in October and they're playing I think

474
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:21,200
it's like a sort of 40 year review of their hits over the over the years so

475
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,680
I'm hoping they're gonna play proper hits so you know we really want to hear

476
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:30,680
by them right and as you know they've just done the southern death cult tour

477
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,680
which I didn't see because I wasn't really into all the very early stuff

478
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,720
which they did right so I'm looking forward to this and obviously I'm going

479
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:45,040
to Manchester it's a hometown gig for Billy Duffy who's a Man City fan as you

480
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,360
know so it's gonna be great looking really looking forward to that my wife's

481
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,040
actually coming as well because she likes the cult we don't often go to a

482
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,240
lot of rock gigs together now but yeah she's quite excited by that one as

483
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:04,720
well so yeah October I think it's October it might be November but anyway

484
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:10,760
it's later in the year looking forward to that one and then maybe oh here we go

485
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:18,520
there's something there there he is looking cool yeah well yeah you could

486
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:24,840
see him better there yeah yeah fine he's a great guitarist and he's he's a cool

487
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:31,400
guy so yeah they should be good the cult as for others I mean I'd love to see

488
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,800
some of the bands whether they're gonna come over or not is another thing I've

489
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,160
never seen except and I've got a feeling that I will see them one day I'm hoping

490
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,600
you know over the next 12 months I might get to see them they occasionally come

491
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,880
over here but we've got this little thing called Brexit going on and some

492
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,800
bands are a little bit reluctant to source you know go they go on European

493
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,560
tours and then they think oh no we won't go to the UK so I don't know whether

494
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,880
I'll see them again I don't think it's gonna be this year but you know next

495
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,360
year I'd love to see the very final Ozzy Osbourne show in Birmingham which is

496
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,880
being planned I think for next summer but we'll see how that you know how Ozzy

497
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,080
gets on with that that would be good just thinking who else I think Richie

498
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Cotson is touring I'd like to maybe go and see him oh and there is one other

499
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,600
that I haven't got the ticket yet but I am going to go and see I just remembered

500
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,040
Jeff Tate's touring in October and it's in the same place I saw that new

501
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,800
Wobham show that I mentioned in February so it's in a really small place it's

502
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,640
quite reasonably priced he's got a female singer on as the support act and

503
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,040
I think he's gonna play quite a bit off obviously all that's the Queens right

504
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:58,480
stuff so yeah that would be good night out I think what about yourself cool

505
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:10,360
yeah so I pull the trigger on the loser villa show which is Limp Bizkit with

506
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Corey Haim and a few other acts I

507
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,980
set up a playlist with all the acts that are gonna be playing and for some

508
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:31,400
options for other shows that we were possibly considering going to see and

509
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:37,320
ultimately after speaking to you guys and also speaking to my wife you know we

510
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,720
figured all right well I can sit through some of these other acts so my son gets

511
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:49,040
to live out his dream of seeing Limp Bizkit so so we'll do it it'll be the

512
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:56,320
second time I see them okay while we're in the States we may also see there's

513
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:02,240
there's a package of Bush playing with wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute

514
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,400
before you get on to the US tell us when this Limp Bizkit show is and where it is

515
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:14,400
it's in the US okay yeah it is July 30th July 30th right okay great that's

516
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,680
brilliant so which are reading so where's that gonna be gonna be at the PNC Bank

517
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:25,920
Art Center it is a outdoor amphitheater right right okay great brilliant yeah

518
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,200
and and at that same venue they're gonna have again Bush with Jerry Cantrell and

519
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Candle Box Wow and that's another show that we were contemplating going to and

520
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,360
we may still do because the price prices aren't that bad that terribly bad

521
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:50,520
considering how many bands you're seeing also I'd love for my older son to see a

522
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,880
band while we're there you know can continue growing his concert going

523
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:02,400
experience yeah yeah that sounds fun sounds fun yeah do you think you might see one in

524
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,600
London I know you're coming over to London later in the year or do you think

525
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,520
that's gonna be probably unlikely given the fact you only got a few days I

526
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:17,280
suppose yeah that it's gonna come down to time and money you know I'd love to

527
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,640
see the cult but they're playing I believe right after we're gonna be there

528
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:28,640
yeah there's always lots of smaller gigs going on in London I mean there's you

529
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,920
know stuff going on in pubs and smaller venues so I suppose there might be

530
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:44,120
something on that might might tempt you right yeah absolutely it's definitely

531
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,360
something that's that's in the works or that we're contemplating because

532
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,920
obviously we want to see a lot of the sites in London a lot of the different

533
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,640
things that we've only read about and seen you know on TV or on the net

534
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:10,460
there's also other things like possibility of going to a concert in my

535
00:53:10,460 --> 00:53:17,200
case I told my wife that we're gonna be in three different countries in a short

536
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,600
period of months and and I I've been trying to swing it so that I could get a

537
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:31,840
tattoo in each country and and and she hasn't been all that keen on the idea as

538
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:38,920
yet but she wasn't keen on me getting one that I got at this point ten days

539
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:48,160
ago so so so and then right before she goes well you know go ahead and get it

540
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,920
you know so I did and then afterwards is when I started saying well you know I've

541
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,520
been I've mentioned this to you I've spoken to some tattoo artists and I may

542
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:05,080
be doing a series of interviews where we talk about the crossover between music

543
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,920
and getting tattooed and I said you know obviously I'll have to get tattooed at

544
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:16,560
this stuff so so we'll see we'll see how it all shakes out yeah well I'll keep an

545
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,400
eye out what's going on during the time you're here and I'll let you know if

546
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,280
there's anything that might be worth your time and you know it's within a

547
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,720
reasonable price all that sort of stuff there's always lows going on so you

548
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,920
never know there might be just something you might be able to see of an evening

549
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:38,920
even for a couple of hours yeah yeah absolutely absolutely yeah I still have

550
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:50,800
to speak to you more about some of the things to see so sure but yeah and the

551
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:57,600
the year it sucks because the year is shaping out to be a great concert year

552
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:04,640
as well seeing a lot of tours that are gonna be going on the States in the fall

553
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,440
right after we come back for example same venue where we're going to see the

554
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:15,120
the one show you have Alice Cooper with Rob Zombie I'm not the biggest fan of

555
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,720
either but it would have been a show that I would have gone to yeah gladly

556
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:23,760
because I think they both put on great shows so it would have been something

557
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:29,040
really really good to check out there are a bunch of other bands that are

558
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,520
gonna be out there as well different tours that keep coming up that I've that

559
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:38,600
I've seen in immediately so-and-so announces a tour and I'm like oh let's

560
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:45,000
see the dates oh it's in September yeah there's a couple of others I'm thinking

561
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,920
you just mentioned Alice Cooper he's actually playing over here in

562
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Manchester later in the year I forget who he's supported by on that one

563
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,200
I think it's cheap trick yeah it's Alice Cooper and cheap trick and also

564
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,800
Journey are playing later in the years you know I'm a big fan of Journey I like

565
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,160
a lot of their stuff so that would be fun but the problem is the price of the

566
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:14,200
concerts those sort of concerts are quite pricey particularly Journey you

567
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:20,440
know you're looking at the sort of 160 mark so it's pricey stuff so you're kind

568
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,360
of looking around you go further back in the arena you know it's a bit cheaper

569
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,600
but this is a thing you're always balancing up the price and the the fun

570
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,800
have you seen them before yeah I've seen them a few times I've seen them three

571
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:42,880
times and the best time I saw them was with foreigner and sticks okay which is

572
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,720
a really really good show they were really on form then obviously I've only

573
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:55,440
ever seen them with the newest singer now is it Arnell Paneda yeah only seen

574
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,520
them with him but they've always played the hits they've always played quite a

575
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,880
few tracks off their current album whatever it is at the time right because

576
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,800
I think they've done three with him now haven't they so I've seen each of those

577
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,440
three tours I think yeah they've always been great live and Neil Sean is a

578
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:20,200
really really good acts live really good I mean he can't off play so yeah

579
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,840
they're worth seeing but once I actually saw them with White Snake and actually

580
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,680
White Snake blew them off the stage before they came on which is a bit of a

581
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,880
shame they they should have swapped it around so what you know everybody wants

582
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,800
to see White Snake because it was a UK act and then Journey came on after it

583
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,840
there's a lot of people leaving the arena which is a real shame because

584
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,360
Journey very good but they just it felt a little bit flat after White Snake

585
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,480
whereas if they'd done it the other way around it would have been absolutely

586
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:56,840
perfect yeah yeah I saw them at a festival where they were you know after

587
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,960
they played Dream Theater came on and there were other things like hate breed

588
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,480
and suicidal tendencies that played after them so it was an amazing mix of

589
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,560
just different styles of rock and metal and they brought it that night they

590
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,040
didn't play any ballads it was all you know the rock songs I think they knew

591
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,000
they said all right we got to win this crowd over and we're not gonna do it

592
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:27,720
with sender my love you know so they played a lot of songs that are not only

593
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:33,560
radio hits but staples I would say not only staples of theirs but just staples

594
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,960
in all types of rock and pop culture because we've seen their music appear on

595
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:47,680
Siri in different series and movies and whatnot so yeah they're they're

596
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,160
definitely a band that's transcended a lot of different things and it's cool

597
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:59,920
that they have the the headspace to know okay we can't pander to our usual crowd

598
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,600
here we got to do something special for these guys yeah yeah that really helps

599
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,840
and it really helps when you see a band live that you're not so into on record

600
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,600
but you just see them live and you think hell I get it now you know they're a

601
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:18,560
great live act and they do it well and that's you know that's all you can ask

602
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:25,480
absolutely so you know who else does it well Jeremy Weltman does it well and I

603
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:31,760
do thank him for joining me tonight for another great discussion here on signals

604
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:37,200
from Mars I want to thank anyone that's watching or listening to the replay of

605
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,720
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606
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:47,080
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607
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608
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609
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you