1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Welcome one and all to episode 387 of Signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,000 And for this episode we talk about the Las Vegas sphere. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:19,000 We talk about the magnitude of the actual structure building, however you want to call it. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:30,000 The possibility of hard rock or metal bands playing there, who we think can play there and who we'd love to see play there. 5 00:00:49,000 --> 00:01:08,000 So to give credit where credit is due, this topic actually came from one of my patrons, Mr. Ed Ferguson, who brought up an interesting question. 6 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,000 This is a few months back and this is kind of something we've had in the can since then. 7 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:23,000 He talked about the fact that U2 was playing there and I guess Dead and Company have recently played there or playing there now. 8 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Sorry, I don't really follow the Grateful Dead or anything remotely connected to them to know exactly what's going on, nor do I follow the sphere closely enough. 9 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:50,000 But his question, because he's such a huge Slayer fan, was imagine seeing thrash bands that we love with all the imagery and stuff like that play the sphere. 10 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:59,000 So first of all, as I mentioned, we tackle what bands we think would be feasible to see play there. 11 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:06,000 And then we back it up with what bands we'd like to see there because it isn't always the same thing. 12 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Listen, in reality, there's stuff that's maybe my favorite from a band, my favorite song, my favorite album, so on and so forth. 13 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:27,000 But maybe in the grand scheme of things, it isn't the artist's favorite or isn't even the fan base's favorite. 14 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:35,000 We've often talked about how the biggest selling album a lot of times is a band's favorite album. 15 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Of course, it's the album that helped them buy that Ferrari, helped them buy all those houses. 16 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:52,000 For a lot of people, much like the Lips interview that I did that came out previous to this, 17 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,000 for some people, it's just being able to live comfortably. 18 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:05,000 So there's a lot of different things there that come into play as to what's a favorite and what isn't a favorite. 19 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000 So yeah, what's a favorite of mine doesn't necessarily have to be yours. 20 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:19,000 So again, a band that maybe I would love to see at the sphere maybe isn't one that you'd like to see there. 21 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 So that's kind of all part of the discussion. 22 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 This is all just kind of quote unquote food for thought. 23 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Get you guys thinking about this topic and mentioning bands that you think that could possibly work there or you'd like to see play there. 24 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,000 So anyway, I do want to send a quick shout out to my patrons. 25 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Thank you guys for all your support. 26 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,000 If you aren't aware, Patreon is two bucks a month. 27 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,000 You could also support the show by picking up merch or by going to PayPal or, excuse me, 28 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:05,000 going to the support tab on the website, signalsfromr's.com, and go and make a PayPal donation. 29 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,000 So people have actually been doing that after a long time of not doing that. 30 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,000 There are people that just aren't into the whole Patreon thing and prefer to support that way. 31 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Either way, I appreciate your support, whether it's financially or not. 32 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:34,000 If you help by sharing the episode, by spreading the word with your friends, other music lovers that you think would nerd out to the topics that we talk about, please send them our way. 33 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Signalsfromr's.com is where it's all at. Social media, places where you can subscribe to the show, where you can watch the video versions of these episodes, podcasting 2.0, all that great stuff. 34 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:56,000 No one's holding a gun to your head, but if you're so inclined to check it out and help us out, man, I'd love you for it. 35 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And anyway, let's get on with the show. 36 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Welcome everyone to Signals from Mars. 37 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:36,000 We are pre-recording this episode, so I'm not throwing a date out there because I don't know exactly when this will air, but we're putting this one in the can for an updated or for a, I should say, an episode in the future. 38 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Not an updated episode, but an episode at some point down the road. 39 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Joining me today is Metal Dan. 40 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Hola. 41 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Dr. Poison Brad Doll, YargMetal.com. 42 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 I'm also in the can. 43 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Better to be in the can than on it at the moment. 44 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:11,000 And finally, the reason that we're doing today's episode and the theme behind it in Kentucky, Mr. Ed Ferguson. How are you, Ed? 45 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Doing good. How are you guys? 46 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Great. 47 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Cool. So, we always have fun discussions off the air. Sometimes it makes me want to record some of these discussions thinking, wow, there's a lot of good material that we talk about. 48 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:40,000 And Ed brought up the Las Vegas Sphere. And at the time, you two, I think, were still doing their residency there. 49 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:53,000 And so we have a few questions that I've kind of put together about the sphere. If you guys have any other questions that you guys want to throw out there, you're more than welcome to do so as well. 50 00:06:53,000 --> 00:07:00,000 And we're going to attack this topic a few different ways. 51 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Because I think that there's a lot of different interesting points that we can get out of this. 52 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:23,000 So, Ed, let's start with you. Realistically speaking, what hard rock or metal band, you think would be the first one to be able to do a residency at the sphere. 53 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:31,000 So we're speaking in the real world, not what Ed wishes would happen. Yeah, that will be part two. 54 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Okay. 55 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:40,000 So right off the bat, let's talk about which ones we think will likely become the fruition. 56 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 The first thing that comes to my mind is Kiss. 57 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Okay. 58 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:56,000 You know, I know they're off doing something else. But, you know, if they did put their energies towards something like this, it would probably be pretty amazing. 59 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Especially with all the Kiss imagery, it would work great. 60 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Right. 61 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Yeah. And that's a band, you know, that people from different walks of the music world would enjoy. 62 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Yeah. Yeah. And I think what you just mentioned is an important point, the whole imagery part of it. 63 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,000 I think that will be a theme with what we're going to be talking about here. 64 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Oh, yeah. Yeah. For this topic, these two are married. There's no way to separate them. You got to have the imagery, the artwork. Yeah. 65 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Yeah. You're going to pay all that money to see it, especially. 66 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Right. Dan, how about you? What band do you think would be the most likely the first band of this ilk to play the sphere? 67 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:02,000 That's a good question. And not just in metal, but in general, if a Welsh could is big enough other than that girl. 68 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:12,000 But Metallica is, it has to be somebody big because you're asking a question that they sell tickets for a lot of money. 69 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:22,000 You know, it's three hundred, probably at least to start. And you got to they're not going to just book it for a week. You know, so that's my answer. 70 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Yeah, that's a very good one. That's one of the ones that I had in the back pocket, depending on what you guys mentioned. 71 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:54,000 So, I mean, I could see them really, because if you think about videos that they've done, if you think about a lot of imagery that they've used over the years, whether it's album covers, whether it's on tour, just some of the special stuff that they've done on tours, I think that they'd be able to turn this. 72 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Turn it up to a point where they'd be able to maximize it somehow. You know, and the cool thing with them is you'd you'd be able to see the show multiple times and get completely different songs every time you see them. 73 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:26,000 It would cost a lot of money for them to do it that way. They could figure it out. It would work with the YouTube and the current Grateful Dead thing there. I think the show's the same every night, much like a maiden show, which I wouldn't want to see maiden at the sphere. 74 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:33,000 But if they could figure out how to do that, that would be my choice. 75 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Brad, what about you? What do you think? 76 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Well, I agree with Dan. And actually, Ed, I've heard rumblings that the whole Kiss avatar thing is actually there in strong talks with the sphere to do that there. 77 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:59,000 So would I go? Probably not, because it'll be a whole lot of money to watch a movie. 78 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Dan Dan gave the definitive answer. I think Metallica is the only realistic band that could pack that place and do it consistently for, you know, I don't know how long they want to do a run there. 79 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 But I'll throw this one out there, too. 80 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Yeah. 81 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,000 I had thought about them earlier today thinking about the answer to this question. 82 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:39,000 And I think that a band like ACDC with all that cool concert footage of them when they were younger with Angus just being on total fire to have all of that concert footage around you. 83 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:48,000 I mean, it would be transporting you back to ACDC back in that, you know, let there be rock through back in black air or something like that. 84 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 It take you back in time. That would be awesome. 85 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,000 You need to get on the team there with the sphere and help them plot this stuff out. 86 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Oh, yes, I'd be a good employee. 87 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 That kind of pick out their set list. 88 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Yeah. And also to you all talking about Metallica, you know, it's kind of cool that we can say that a band like Metallica would be the best fit. 89 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Because, you know, think about when we were growing up in the 80s, bands like Metallica were so frowned upon the ones making all the money where the pop metal bands. 90 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:41,000 But when you think about it today, you know, if you put a pop metal band at the sphere, you know, their imagery would just be, you know, party and parties and girls. 91 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And like Metallica in there, every song is telling a different story. 92 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:53,000 So you could develop video and imagery that goes with every story being told with each song. 93 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And, you know, you just you couldn't do that with some of the more mainstream bands that were most successful back when we were younger. 94 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 I think that's cool. 95 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Like, I mean, even any band in that Metallica range could tell a lot of good stories if they had the money to create something for the sphere. 96 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Yeah, I think that kind of comes back to the whole Def Leppard discussion that we've had multiple times where Joe Elliott has talked about the fact that, oh, well, heavy metal is a bad word. 97 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,000 It's not going to be associated to that. Yeah, screw that. 98 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:40,000 And it's funny because a band like Metallica, like Judas Priest have never frowned. 99 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Iron Maiden have never frowned upon that term. 100 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:59,000 And none of those three bands, I guess, priest in extent, but Maiden and Metallica don't need four opening bands to sell a tour. 101 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:05,000 They have they have it because they want to give fans more bang for their buck. 102 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:30,000 But it just it just goes to show that bands that stuck to their laurels and what they wanted to do and didn't kind of try to fit into a niche, you know, have more staying power than than than a Def Leppard who, you know, doesn't want to be categorized or or whatnot. 103 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:40,000 But now, once when I was thinking about if you did have like a hairband or pop band or whatever you want to call them. 104 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Right. 105 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,000 What, you know, could you put there that could do something interesting. 106 00:14:48,000 --> 00:15:08,000 And the only thought I could come up with is if there was some kind of conglomeration of musicians, you know, from that group those that L.A. group of bands, you know, Nikki six working with piercing and I know all those guys don't get along, but it sure would be cool if they could get together. 107 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:20,000 And then they could all kind of package something in that like the ACDC thing would take you back in time to that moment. Put some imagery of L.A. and the clubs and all of that. 108 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,000 But it would be hard to see like any one band being able to do something that great. 109 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Yeah, I think I think the closest like like I'm saying, Motley Crue and Def Leppard have to tour with other bands to sell to sell amphitheaters. Nonetheless, the sphere, which talking about hundreds and thousands of dollars per ticket, that's not happening. 110 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:57,000 And even this summer, they're playing stadiums with Journey and Sticks. They're not playing on their own. Motley Crue can't sell all those tickets on their own because if they could, they would. 111 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:04,000 They wouldn't be taking into opening acts out with them. 112 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Could Bon Jovi do something like that. I mean, I'm not saying that I'm a huge fan of theirs, but 113 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:21,000 not with his voice these days. If you watch that documentary on Hulu, it John's a little bit in at the end of his career. 114 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Well, that's the thing. I mean, does bringing Richie Sambora back to the fold for the sphere, does that sell tickets? 115 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Does not anymore. Does Aerosmiths last hurrah? Does that do it? 116 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Not for that money. You think they want a lot of money for a stadium? How much will they charge for the sphere then? 117 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Well, I think that's the thing. I think for the U2 tickets, I don't think that there were cheaper. There were tickets less than a thousand bucks. 118 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,000 They were less than the internet. It said the I don't know who this is. 119 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,000 I had friends that went to the U2 thing and she's cheap and she didn't pay a thousand dollars. 120 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Okay. The fellow that told me that he went that had me think about this. 121 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:22,000 I think he said he paid 400 a ticket. Yeah. But still a huge chunk of money. 122 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying here is that the tickets for U2 range from 365 to 551. 123 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Okay. And the weekday, Wednesday and Thursday were less expensive than Friday and Saturday. 124 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Some say they found tickets as low as 298. And then we sell site. 125 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:51,000 And then Brad commented. Meanwhile, I got to say, Deddon company are going 145 to 194. 126 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Well, yeah, big difference there. Wow. Well, Brad commented about kissing a movie. 127 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Well, the current movie there is starting at 100, which is, you know, 94 euro. 128 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 You know, one for a movie. I think it's 45 minutes to an hour. 129 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Yeah. Which, you know, you can spend that much money on gambling, too. 130 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:19,000 But it's a lot to consider. Yeah. Start the movie starts at 103 per ticket. 131 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:30,000 You get to watch the movie. So. Yeah. So. So, okay. So. 132 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 My let's see. I didn't answer yet. My first choice would have been Metallica. 133 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Second choice. And see, you guys have already talked about Metallica. 134 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Then you said you don't want to see them. But my second choice would be Iron Maiden. 135 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Just because of all of the imagery that could go along with me playing there. 136 00:18:52,000 --> 00:19:02,000 I think that they could do a decent run there. I don't know for how long, but. 137 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:09,000 I'd probably pay 300 bucks to go see Maiden there. Well, let me let me ask this. 138 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Would you pay to see 139 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Maiden there together? Yes. Yeah. And I have to say, even though I just bought priest tickets today. 140 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Here in Idaho, Judas Priest playing in Idaho, crazy playing in two places in Idaho, actually. 141 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Even though I just bought tickets for them, I don't think they bring that will put that many butts in the seats. 142 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,000 I think Maiden would be fine without priest. I don't think that would. Right. 143 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:50,000 I think I think for the most part, for a lot of fans that have wanted to see that combination, 144 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 that would be the allure to that. Yeah. 145 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Only only only other artists that I could think of because they're stepping outside of the bounds, 146 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:14,000 boundaries of just hard rock and metal because they've become kind of cartoonish and, you know, done other things is Ozzy. 147 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 You tell me that Ozzy is going to do his last. 148 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,000 You know, he's going to do a month of shows there twice a week, three times a week. 149 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,000 He doesn't have to move all that much. 150 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:32,000 I think you could you could get a decent amount of people to see him. 151 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:40,000 You add the the added caveat that the encore is Black Sabbath with Bill Ward that comes out and does four songs each night. 152 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Yeah. And and I think that you're going to get. 153 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:53,000 If you're going to make a dream thing, then you might as well put in Rush, because that would be the one that was your. 154 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 That's question two, then let's let's not get there yet. 155 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:04,000 You're making a fictitious thing. You're saying Bill Ward who doesn't play anymore. Ozzy's who's retiring, I think this year he's done. 156 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 So now you're just making shit up. 157 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000 But he's saying that he's willing to do a last show with Bill Ward. 158 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,000 He's willing to do a final Black Sabbath show so long as Bill Ward plays. 159 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,000 And so far, Tony Iommi has said that he will do that. 160 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 That sounds like one show at the place the Beatles play that, you know. 161 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:41,000 OK. All I'm saying is that if if they do, if they're offered, put it away, put it put put that away, Brad. 162 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 You have enough to share with the entire class. Put it away. 163 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 You're going to lose it. 164 00:21:48,000 --> 00:22:06,000 All I'm saying is if if they offer Ozzy and Sabbath a shitload of money to do two shows a week for one month, we're talking about eight to 10 shows total. 165 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 OK, they're giving them. 166 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000 A hundred million dollars. 167 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,000 To do to do 10 shows. 168 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,000 They're going to say no. 169 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,000 I know they're not going to say no, but Sharon's going to take that money. 170 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000 I just don't think the guys are doing it. 171 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000 She's going to make it because I would pay to see that too. 172 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Well, I'll push the price up. 173 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:46,000 OK, so so because we've we've we've kind of already tiptoed over number the number two scenario here, Dan, I'll let you go first. 174 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Since I was stepping on your toes already. 175 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Fantasy. If if there was a scenario that we could put any band in there, we can resurrect the dead. 176 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:04,000 We could do whatever we want with any band in that situation. 177 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Who would you go with? 178 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Yeah, I didn't know the Black Sabbath was on the table. 179 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I thought that thing is done. 180 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:20,000 So to answer your question, I thought about this and as I would say for presentation, rush man of war. 181 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 And now I lost my other one that I had. 182 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:32,000 But because, you know, they want to go bigger and it wouldn't be Romstein because I need them to be outside with the flame and the fire and all that stuff. 183 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 So probably those two. 184 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:43,000 OK. But then I I don't think it's going to happen, but I want the the rush thing to come back for a residency. 185 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:53,000 And I don't see the problem putting in a drummer to fill in and giving acknowledgement of what happened. 186 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 These guys are too young to quit. 187 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Yeah, I think with the whole rush thing, you definitely have to bring in. 188 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Brad, you just showed the magazine for those listening to the podcast version. 189 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,000 He just pulled out a rock candy magazine and it has Mike Portnoy in it. 190 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:22,000 I think you'd have to bring a Portnoy or a Danny Carey or a very big name drummer. 191 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:33,000 To do that, that's going to make it worth people's while to pay a shitload of money to see them back and know that it's going to be done right. 192 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 It may have to be multiple drummers. 193 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 It may not just be, you know, one guy. 194 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Maybe it ends up being, oh, if you come to this date, it's going to be Portnoy. 195 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:52,000 If you come to this other show, it's going to be so and so, you know, where it's going to be Dave Grohl, Dave Grohl or whatever. 196 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000 You know, it's so so you'll actually make it. 197 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:04,000 You'll force and go to the Portnoy show to go multiple nights, you know, because oh, shit, they're playing with Charlie Bonante tonight. 198 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 All right. I want to see it with Charlie. 199 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:14,000 But I also want to see Dave Lombardo play with Rush, you know, something like that, something that see Ed. 200 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 OK, that's already Ed's got a smile. 201 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Is that I was I was wanting to say Dave Lombardo, but I didn't want to offend anybody. 202 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 So I can say that I'd like to see Dave playing with Rush. 203 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:32,000 That'd be cool. I I purposely peppered that in there knowing that I would get some sort of a. 204 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:39,000 And and it's funny, because, again, for those in the podcasting world, only listening to the audio. 205 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 And smile was growing little by little. 206 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,000 He looked like a five year old again as the words Dave Lombardo came out. 207 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,000 That's right. Brad, how about you? 208 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 What what fantasy scenario would you like to see there? 209 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Well, it's a it's a fantasy scenario that's realistic for packing that place. 210 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,000 I mean, of course, the bands I like, nobody, none of them are going to pack it. 211 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 But this one. Van Halen. Oh, that good idea there. 212 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you could get that guy to be that guy, then then you'd really have something. 213 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Not not the current creepy Uncle Dave thing that he's turned into. 214 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,000 My yes. Yeah. 215 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,000 But they have and Halen, that would be a huge spectacle. 216 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,000 I mean, it could be just awesome if if Eddie was still alive. 217 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Yeah, Dave was Dave was not creepy. OK. 218 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,000 And you, you you've had to think about this. 219 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Yeah, I didn't have to think long. Slayer comes to mind first, of course. 220 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000 To see, you know, yeah, that's right with Dave that would gosh, man. 221 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Yeah, they could really take my money if they got together with Dave and Tom and went to the sphere. 222 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 I'd pay a lot to see that probably. 223 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000 They could actually make it rain and blood. Exactly. 224 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000 I mean, there's so much so many cool things they could do with all the themes of their songs. 225 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 He's scared. And then a lot of the stuff that we already said, like my second thought was ACDC. 226 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Well, like I said earlier, just taking me back in time to a show, you know, you mentioning Sabbath with Bill. 227 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Gosh, that would be awesome. 228 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,000 You know, I might that I might pay the money to go see Pantera 229 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:45,000 if they could do something, you know, with the, you know, some old footage of Dimebag and Vinny. 230 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,000 I don't know how it would have to be someone kind of clever to make that interesting enough for too long. 231 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,000 But still, I guess what I'm thinking is. 232 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Ideas that would take you back in time to either a certain time when his genre was popular, you know, 233 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:08,000 like the time when Nirvana was hitting the scene and that whole grunge scene was growing. 234 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Right. Or the same thing back with, you know, all the L.A. bands. 235 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000 You know, if you could do something that just takes you back to those scenes, that would be cool, too. 236 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,000 There's different creative things I think people can do outside of just having a band play. 237 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Yeah, I agree with you. 238 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:31,000 And I think that kind of comes back to something that we've talked about a lot. 239 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 We've talked about the Kiss avatars initially when we started up. 240 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 You brought that up, Ed. 241 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000 We've talked about the Dio hologram in the past and stuff like that 242 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:48,000 and how we think that the concert going experience will vary in the future. 243 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,000 We'll we'll touch upon this a little bit more in a second. 244 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:04,000 For me, and this is going to be kind of outside of the box for for a lot of the music that we talk about here. 245 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000 I've seen Nine Inch Nails a bunch of times. 246 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000 They are a very theatrical band. 247 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000 They would be awesome to see there, I think. 248 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:26,000 And I have to say this one, and it may be popular or may not be popular, given the political climate out there now. 249 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:34,000 But going back to 70 something and Pink Floyd doing the wall in there. 250 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000 I was going to say Pink Floyd, I forgot. Yes. 251 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Yeah, that's one of my favorites. 252 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:52,000 That could be something where, you know, it could take that whole wall show to another level because, you know, 253 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:59,000 all the imagery that went along with it with the movie and with all the shirts we've seen over the years, all the graphics. 254 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,000 You know, let's let's face it out of a classic rock band. 255 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Pink Floyd is probably the one that's done the most amount of merch out of anyone. 256 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:20,000 I mean, growing up as a kid in school at the mall everywhere, 257 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:27,000 you'd see people with Pink Floyd shirts, regardless of what formation of the band, whether Roger Waters within the band was out of the band. 258 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 You'd see it everywhere. 259 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:36,000 So I think that Pink Floyd would be another one that could work there. 260 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Now, based on what I just mentioned a second ago, it was my next point where I think because unfortunately bands aren't being built up the way that they have been in the past, 261 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:58,000 because nostalgia is king for a lot of people in North America specifically. 262 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:06,000 That whole ACDC concept, that whole going back to different eras of, as you've mentioned, Ed, 263 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:18,000 I just think that our whole concert going experience is going to change in the next 10 to 20 years as more of these bands disappear and retire. 264 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 More people end up dead. 265 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 So, so they're not going to be playing. 266 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:33,000 So I think the sphere is going to help kind of push our concert going experience to to another level. 267 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Do you guys think that that's a fair assessment, Brad? 268 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000 What do you think? 269 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Yeah, I agree. 270 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:54,000 I think tapping into, you know, what people, you know, the past and, you know, I think that's, that's a great thing. 271 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000 And that's why a lot of people go to these shows. 272 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:08,000 You know, the bands that we generally like, they want to hear the old songs, they want to hear the songs that, you know, they were hearing when they were teenagers and young people. 273 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Nobody wants to hear the new songs, which is too bad. 274 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:25,000 But yeah, yeah, I think I think they could do some really cool things based on that kind of theory, you know, because the older people got the money. 275 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 So, 276 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:42,000 well, the thing that keeps coming to mind with to me with some of the images that I've seen and Ed kind of mentioned with Pantera or even with the Van Halen stuff, just having that whole dome. 277 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Yeah, an image of somebody being hundreds of feet high and being like we imagined them like we were when we were kids, like they were larger than life, literally larger than life. 278 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Superstars in front of us where, oh shit, that's Eddie Van Halen and with his, you know, bib on or whatever his overalls are. 279 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000 And he's 300 feet tall. 280 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,000 You know, he's that character that I imagined. 281 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 That's what I was thinking about. 282 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:26,000 And but just I didn't know quite how to explain it. I'm glad you did there. That's kind of what I'm thinking when I say, take me back to seeing Dimebag, you know. 283 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Yeah. 284 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:36,000 You know what else would be cool. This will never happen. Maybe. Well, maybe in 50 years, but you could have a black metal band. 285 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:46,000 If they had the resources to take you to all those places that you see on their album covers, right. While they're playing their music, you know, that would be cool. 286 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Because there's a lot of really, really cool imagery and artwork and black metal, even though I don't like as you know, I can handle black metal in small doses, but right. 287 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Not a huge fan, but I love a lot of their artwork. 288 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,000 You know, they just they're taking you all of these lands on the other side of the world. 289 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,000 And, you know, death metal bands could do something cool, too. 290 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:18,000 With. Yeah, they just yeah, but who's going to ever have the money to do that for bands like that for underground bands like that. 291 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,000 But I mean, we're talking, for example, Kiss has come up a few times with you mentioning that. 292 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Just imagine the album cover of Destroyer. Yeah, coming to life in front of that as their back as their backdrop. 293 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000 You know, that would be really cool. 294 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Race Rayleigh taking us through space, through outer space. 295 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Unfortunately, we'd get stuck with ACES Apple, Apple 2E graphics, which which someone needs to tell them. 296 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Or like 30 years too late. 297 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Dan, what do you think you think that the sphere is kind of bringing us to to a new level of a concert experience? 298 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Is it tomorrow's concerts today? Sure. Yeah, it can be duplicated and there should be more of this. 299 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:27,000 I don't know the expense of the whole thing, but you know, I'm somebody that loves an IMAX movie and this is IMAX even greater. 300 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000 I will seek out, you know, an IMAX movie that's 45 minutes long and go and go see it in the big screen just to take in that. 301 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000 I love that stuff that comes back from the old days. 302 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,000 The Disneyland surround theater from back in the day. 303 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:51,000 It's just a matter of time before I experienced that I put down the hundred dollars to 150 a ticket and go do this experience, because I think the this sphere is amazing. 304 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,000 I've only seen it from the outside a few times and I can imagine inside I'm going to be blown away. 305 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000 It's going to be amazing. So it's just a matter of time. 306 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:09,000 But at the same time, I can't ever let go of as long as my back and take it of going to the Glass House or whatever to see power trip. 307 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 It's just I'm no longer into the circle pit. 308 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,000 I know those guys think it's fun on the stage to call it out. 309 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,000 But I do enjoy the hot in the intimate in your face show. 310 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:28,000 I still dig that. And I can walk out of those shows and be like smile and have, you know, I lived through it. 311 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 It was fun. And then I but I can be bored in a massive show. 312 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,000 So it's just it's a little both. 313 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000 OK. My next question here. 314 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Do you think that we'll see more of these pop up around the world? Is there is there enough money in it that maybe we see, you know, a sphere pop up in the UK or in Germany or it's going to happen in Dubai? 315 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 I have a feeling because they take everything. 316 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Yeah, I could see China just for just because so they could say what other countries. I don't know. 317 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Dubai makes a whole lot of sense because there's a ton of money there. 318 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 That would that would definitely drive it. 319 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:31,000 But it won't be in the middle America of Kansas of Kansas who's going to be playing this fear. 320 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Would you pay to see Kansas in the sphere? 321 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000 In 1978. Yes. 322 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000 When they were on, but not now. 323 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,000 OK. 324 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:54,000 So so you guys all think that we'll see more spheres pop up at some point in time in the future. 325 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,000 That's a great question. I mean, I think costs. I don't know how much money it was huge, expensive. 326 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:08,000 I'm sure anybody unless Madison Square Garden takes it on or just somebody with more money than they know what to do with. 327 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 I don't know. That's a great question. 328 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:18,000 I mean, I wonder how close they are to paying for that with what they've done so far with that venue. 329 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,000 They're at their advertising on NBA jerseys for it. 330 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,000 So there's a lot of money surrounding this whole thing. 331 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Yeah. Yeah. They got to sell a lot of work, a lot more tickets, I think. 332 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000 The initial review I've heard is they're doing OK. Surprisingly, it's working. 333 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:44,000 All right. It's good to hear. That's the headline. But OK. 334 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 We've talked about the pricing a little. 335 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Does does that justify, you know, does the whole experience justify the prices for the shows? 336 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Obviously, if it was cheaper, we'd probably get more people to go. 337 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:08,000 But as Brad said, you got to pay for the place. Yeah. So that's a great question. 338 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:16,000 I don't I'd like to talk to somebody who actually went to a show there and get their opinion about the whole thing. 339 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000 I've heard different people on the Internet talking about it. 340 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,000 It's been a mixed, mixed reviews as far as what they paid and what they saw. 341 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 So, yeah, that's a that's a great question. 342 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,000 My brother went and just saw the movie and he didn't think he said he thought the outside was more impressive than the inside. 343 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:39,000 But there again, that's my brother. So well, there's you. 344 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:47,000 CEO Dave isn't isn't surprised by just anything. 345 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:54,000 No doubt. No doubt. He's yeah. He. Yeah. 346 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Let's not forget. That's just one big ball for him. 347 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:06,000 He's used to little tiny ones. There you go. Yeah. 348 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Metal, Dan, what do you think? Does the price justify the shows? 349 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:19,000 It could. It depends on the band. I mean, if you this this dead company, it's I'm never going to see them in a small club. 350 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 So it depends on what I'm going to get out of it. ACDC. 351 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:29,000 I it's probably I don't know. I'm having a hard time spending a lot of money right now. 352 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000 But that's just because I've got mortgage and bills. 353 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,000 But yeah, if the experience is there, the bands there, you know, something like ACDC or something. 354 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000 Yeah. Rush. I don't know how much money we're talking. 355 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:48,000 I won't pay the Aerosmith money. It's it's it's a difficult question of where I put my money. 356 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 How much would you pay to see Armored Saint there? 357 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:58,000 I don't think they deserve to be there. I want to be in the front row where I just was many times or am many times. 358 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000 I don't need a big experience with them. That's again. 359 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Sometimes a small club gets my just, you know, as excited as a big. 360 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,000 I agree. OK. And how about you? 361 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,000 What what prices you know, what price point would justify you going there? 362 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,000 I think all those prices sting. Yeah. 363 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:32,000 But of course, you're going to Vegas and it's vacation and you use all those excuses to justify spending more. 364 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000 So you can have the experience anyway. 365 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:46,000 You know, like if some of those scenarios happen and I went to Vegas to do that, I would probably spend the three, four hundred. 366 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:53,000 If I had it to spend to see that stuff, but I can't say it wouldn't hurt. 367 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,000 But I mean, what I mean, what what out there is not going to cost that kind of money, right? 368 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:05,000 I've never been, but I'm sure everything is going to be extra expensive, isn't it? 369 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,000 Yeah. And interesting to see like they're going to have a baseball team. 370 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000 How much more tickets will be there for that? It just depends. 371 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 You know, you can go to the WNBA, the women's basketball. 372 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:23,000 It might be cheaper seats, but you know, the hockey gets kind of expensive there and everything else. 373 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000 I don't know where I'm going with that. Yeah, no, no, that that makes sense. 374 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000 I mean, for me, pricing out different things that you may be seeing this summer. 375 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000 I've done exactly what you just said, Dan. 376 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:44,000 I've priced out WNBA games, concerts, baseball games, just to see what makes sense for us to go see. 377 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,000 I go to the club vamped over there in Vegas. I've been a few times. I love it. 378 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,000 It's twenty dollars, twenty five dollars US to get in the door. 379 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000 The hotel's two hundred or three hundred to whatever. 380 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,000 You know, so I'm paying more in gas and to get into vamped. 381 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000 I'm not telling them to raise their prices or anything, but it just depends on what you want to do. 382 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Yeah. Yeah. And to your point, look, I'm wearing a Markie Ramone t shirt today. 383 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:19,000 I mean, I I spent thirty five euros, so basically forty bucks for the show. 384 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,000 It was in a how much for the shirt was the same amount as the ticket. Thirty five. 385 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:31,000 OK, that's not bad. Yeah. When we when we were at Saxon a couple of weeks ago 386 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,000 and I bought this shirt, bought one for Nathan and it was forty five dollars a shirt. 387 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000 I was like, man, forty five dollars a shirt. 388 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:45,000 And he said, Dad, the shows I go to, they're like like one hundred, two hundred dollars for a shirt. 389 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Wow. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. 390 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000 I feel I feel sorry for these kids these days. 391 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,000 Well, that's that's funny because that was a discussion that I had yesterday 392 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:04,000 and it kind of came up with the whole of this last point that I brought up 393 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,000 was how kids are getting priced out of music and they want kids to be more involved. 394 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:16,000 But what Dan just mentioned about Vamps doesn't happen all the time. 395 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:24,000 This theater that we saw, Marky Ramone, again, thirty five bucks, thirty five 396 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,000 between thirty five to Gunn just played there and they were forty five. 397 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,000 I didn't go see that because I said I know two of their songs. 398 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,000 I know people say that they're great, but I'm not going to pay forty five bucks 399 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000 to see a band that I may or may not like. 400 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:50,000 I'd prefer to pay a little less for a thirty five for a band that I know I'm going to enjoy. 401 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:58,000 They're pricing kids out of shows where when we were kids, you know, you had five five dollar ticket notes. 402 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000 You had nine dollars. You had twenty dollars. 403 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000 You know, where where kids could say, fuck it, if the band sucks, I only spent five bucks on the ticket. 404 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000 So it doesn't matter. I'm still hanging out with my friends. 405 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,000 We're going to make fun of the band instead of go home and want to buy their albums. 406 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:22,000 You have the classic guitar companies which are selling a bunch of times. 407 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:30,000 Adam Jones from Tools, Les Paul's signature model for thirty four thousand euros. 408 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000 No kids buying that. 409 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Anyone that's buying that isn't even going to fucking play it because it's too damn expensive. 410 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:52,000 So when you have when you have to spend over three thousand dollars for a decent Les Paul, 411 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,000 kids are not going to be interested because kids can't afford it. 412 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:08,000 If it's going to come between a three thousand dollar guitar and a five hundred dollar top end video game console, 413 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:17,000 a top end laptop or computer, which is about a thousand for them for from a gaming side of things. 414 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,000 They're not going for the they're not going to pick up the musical instrument. 415 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:31,000 They're not going to go to the show. I just I just saw a clips of Coachella. 416 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,000 I saw clips of no doubt playing Coachella and I couldn't help but think of seeing the front row 417 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,000 and thinking none of these people are into the fucking band. 418 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,000 They're just there to be seen. Yeah. 419 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:55,000 And that's sad that somebody who would really want to be there can't afford to be there. 420 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:04,000 And those that are those that are spending, you know, two thousand dollars to sit in the front row and to be doing this. 421 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,000 Yeah. Yeah. In front of the in front of the stage. 422 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:20,000 Yeah. Don't give a fuck about the band. You know, and again, I know that the band is not something that we talk about here. 423 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:26,000 But I want to see the footage. You know, there are songs by them that I do enjoy. 424 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:37,000 And it was cool to see them playing live and just seeing a kind of dead crowd in the front few rows. 425 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:45,000 Just kind of killed the mood to an extent. So. 426 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:52,000 And unfortunately, a lot of and I get it, older people have the money, can afford to go to this stuff. 427 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:59,000 But if you don't get the kids involved, it will eventually all die. That's right. 428 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:11,000 We're we're not talking about any do what band playing the sphere. We're not talking about the. 429 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:18,000 Who the the. Man, I just forgot the name, not the Anders sisters. 430 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,000 What was the name of the the sisters that were popular during World War Two? 431 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,000 The Andrews Andrews sisters, Andrews. Yeah, we're not talking about the Andrews sisters at the sphere. 432 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,000 We're not talking about Guy Lombardo. 433 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:41,000 I had to throw another Lombardo in there to get as we're not talking about the Buddy Rich show. 434 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:50,000 We're not talking about the BB King review. We're not, you know, Elvis. 435 00:48:50,000 --> 00:49:01,000 Although Elvis could be something that's plausible, but he'd be the one probably that you could do that with. 436 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,000 That that's the thing. I mean, you. 437 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:13,000 So so much so many of these things are just falling by the wayside because they're just. 438 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:20,000 Pushing the kids aside through pricing, through various different things. 439 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:36,000 When you think about it, I built a whole music collection and went to, you know, enough shows that I can't even remember them all on a on three dollars and 15 cents an hour at Kentucky Fried Chicken and mowing some a couple of lawns here and there. 440 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,000 Right. 441 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Can't do that now. Absolutely. 442 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,000 No. And and we've talked about this before. 443 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Live Nation made this announcement that they're going to be offering twenty five dollar tickets to all of these summer shows. 444 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:02,000 And I remember reading it and I'm thinking there's no way this is going beyond lawn tickets at amphitheaters. 445 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:10,000 No, it's it is all on tickets and that's exactly what it is. Yeah, they're all lawn tickets. I'm thinking, well, this is what they offer every summer. 446 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,000 Where's where's the big deal in this? You know, I'm still paying. 447 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:21,000 I still paid two hundred and. 448 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,000 Forty something dollars after handling fees and taxes and all this stuff. 449 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:34,000 To take my my younger son to go see Limp Bizkit as part of the Loserville tour. 450 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:43,000 So, you know, and that's that's without them including the good old sixty dollar parking in there. 451 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,000 Yeah. 452 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,000 So that's a whole nother topic we haven't thrown in there. 453 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:56,000 The parking. Yeah, those prices are gone way up to. 454 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000 You need a beverage while you're there. Yeah. 455 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,000 You hungry? No. Yeah, I have it on my list of things to do. 456 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:14,000 Maidens playing the forum in L.A. and I know that the parking is probably at least a hundred and I don't know what I'm going to do yet. 457 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:21,000 I mean, I know that I paid back in the day 40 to 50 and that was so I don't know what I'm going to do. 458 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,000 And it's not the greatest location that they're trying. 459 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,000 But yeah, I imagine it's going to be a way over 100 for maiden parking. 460 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,000 That is I'd get an Uber. Crazy. 461 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000 That's the scooter. 462 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,000 I started looking up pricing for parking before pulling the trigger on this. 463 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,000 And apparently, if you go with standard parking, it's six dollars per person. 464 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000 But obviously, it's first come first serve. 465 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000 Sixty bucks is VIP parking. 466 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Everybody in the trunk. It's from 60 to 125. 467 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,000 And now that you mention that, my son said, can I just go in the trunk? 468 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,000 And then you pay for one of those. That's a good sign. 469 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,000 And that's what we used to do at the drive in movies when I was exactly what I brought up. 470 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,000 I said, you know, we used to do that with the drive in theater. 471 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,000 So we were we were at one where the guy's car was a hatchback. 472 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000 We're like, crap, what are we going to do? 473 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Said, well, we're going to climb over the wall. 474 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,000 You know, you drive in and then we'll climb over the wall and you come pick us up. 475 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,000 Yeah, I can't be too cheap. 476 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,000 I thought to ask my wife to walk two miles because I would do it. 477 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,000 She's going to get pissed at me, you know, so it's not going to work. 478 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,000 That's worth a hundred dollars right there. 479 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,000 Oh, boy. Who is Maiden playing with? 480 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,000 The the hon, the hon, the horn. 481 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's some they don't matter. 482 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,000 They have what one song. 483 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,000 I don't know why they're there. 484 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,000 Is it the hon? The Chinese man? Yeah, I think they're Chinese. 485 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000 It's a Chinese metal thing. Yeah. Yeah. 486 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000 It's the who? H.U. the who? Yeah, that. 487 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,000 OK. Who? Yeah, I don't. 488 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:27,000 Let's put a video up, if you know what, on the Patreon. 489 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000 Yeah, do it. Do it, Victor. 490 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000 I think I have in the past, they just released a new album 491 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,000 and I haven't posted anything because I didn't think we were going to get any favorable reactions. 492 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,000 But now that you bring it up, Dan, I will. 493 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:45,000 I want to see it. They had a song like five years ago, I want to say, that was catchy. 494 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,000 Yeah, that's all a thing I know. I got to look into this. 495 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Yeah. But this is a good point to point to mention that if you join the signals from Mars Patreon, 496 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:01,000 you get to see the latest, greatest music that's coming out even before it comes out. 497 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000 And you also get to hang with us. 498 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:12,000 There you go. And you get to propose topics like Ed did, which is why we are here. 499 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Yeah, and read all my insightful comments. 500 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:21,000 I'd say it's worth at least ten dollars a month just to hang out with Dan and Ed. 501 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Okay, I want that there. Is that a new issue? 502 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,000 That's the last issue of the guitar roll with Kerry King. 503 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:35,000 The newest one just came out today and guess who's back? Creed. 504 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000 Oh boy. 505 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Oh boy, I'm not thrilled with that at all. 506 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,000 Yeah, who's going to pony up the dough for that? I guess a lot of people. 507 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,000 Scott Strapp coming to the Vegas. 508 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,000 They're selling tickets, believe it or not. 509 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000 I believe it. They were big in the day. 510 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,000 A lot of people hated them, but a lot of people love them as well. They moved a lot of albums. 511 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000 All of these bands. 512 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,000 They're kind of Nickelback light. 513 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,000 Well, that's that's the thing. Nickelback, them, Nirvana, pick a band that people hated. 514 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,000 Limp Bizkit I just mentioned a little while ago. 515 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:23,000 They're still all moving tickets. There's still enough people that enjoy them that they're still selling stuff out. 516 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:29,000 My in-laws proudly go see Nickelback and they're the greatest. 517 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,000 I think that's actually really cool, though. 518 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:40,000 I'm all for anybody who goes to see live music, even if it's something that I don't care for, 519 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000 because as Victor stated, if we don't support this stuff, it's just going to go away. 520 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:55,000 Well, I think what Brad was talking about before the show started about following a band on multiple cities is a neat thing to do when you got vacation time. 521 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,000 That's that's a cool concept. That's like going to multiple baseball or basketball games. 522 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,000 Oh, yeah. It was really cool. I mean, we saw Saxon four times in Texas. 523 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,000 I think the most I paid for a ticket was fifty dollars. 524 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:15,000 And all of them were general admission except for one of them. 525 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:21,000 San Antonio, which was just weird having seats for a Saxon show. 526 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,000 But it was fantastic. And every night was you started thinking, oh, guy, you know, you're going to go see him again. 527 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:37,000 And the best the best show we went to was the last one. So I was like, boy, I'm glad we didn't cut this whole adventure off a day early or something. 528 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:44,000 Yeah, it was it was a blast. So get out there, go see music and go see it in the clubs. 529 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:51,000 I'm with Dan on this, man. There's nothing better than getting right up there to the stage and just feeling the energy and the heat and the sweat. 530 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,000 And as long as you don't have bozos punching you in the back of the head, that's yeah, I don't go for that. 531 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000 You know, you want to you want to do that stuff. 532 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:05,000 You'll find a spot on the floor where nobody is and run around and punch each other. 533 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000 That's my public service announcement. 534 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Brad Hall is against donkey punches at shows. 535 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,000 That's another topic that I have a few things for later. 536 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:26,000 Well, there you go. We're we're we're going to be pre recording some more episodes coming up and I got felt up at about 18 years old. 537 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,000 Not cool. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was weird. 538 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,000 Not cool, dude. 539 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,000 I guess I was cute. 540 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,000 Wow. 541 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000 Oh, wow. 542 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:47,000 Well, we'll dig into that topic in the future on that topic. 543 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000 Crazy things that have happened to shows. 544 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Here you go. Oh, I got a few that you do. 545 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:03,000 Well, on that note, folks, I do want to thank metal, Dan, want to thank Brad, and I do want to thank Ed for joining me tonight. 546 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:11,000 I hope you guys enjoy this episode. 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