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Welcome one and all to episode 382 of Signals from Mars. This is Victor and for this episode

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we bring you the April albums review. Jeremy Weltman and myself will be going over some

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albums that stood out to us during the month of April and help you from not being a lazy

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listener and understanding that yes there's still good music coming out every week.

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So I just said it the lazy listener I don't remember what I was recently reading where

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someone was hey dude they're back remember their last album and it was something from

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1989 for example first thing that came to mind was lazy listener alert. Yeah that's right

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okay so I will always remember this when someone is there was a an announcement that Docken

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was releasing a new album and someone say hey man remember their last album back for

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the attack. Where have you been all these years? You know a lot of people today they

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shit too seriously or whatever but that honestly bugs me come on man I'm a huge fan man I love

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your last album and back for the attack was the most man and can I get an autograph? It's

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like their last good album what? Last good album with the classic lineup last good album

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with Don's voice last good album from a songwriting standpoint oh the last album before they broke

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up and all this shit with up from the ashes and getting back together again and doing

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this and doing that. So yes Jeremy and I do these episodes for that so that you guys are

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in touch yeah I don't hit on all the releases and I'm going to be honest with you what I

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cater to are labels that actually play nice with me provide me with promos from those

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promos I post a lot of that stuff on my Patreon for people to sample and check out and then

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if there are other big bands I you know I name them obviously because it would be stupid

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for me not to but this is kind of a cross section there's some months where I can listen

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to a lot of music and there's others where I can't listen to hardly anything. For this

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albums review I'm going to be honest it took me a long time to be able to put time aside

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and do it and once I did I just started listening to album after album after album it was very

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cathartic it was very fun it's awesome listening to new music and being turned on to stuff

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that can just be added to that menu to that soundtrack of your life so that it's not you

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know oh man I've got a case of the Mondays man it's back to the same old same old listen

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I'm not looking for any of this stuff to replace my favorites but hey every now and then you

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want to listen to something different you don't want to listen to comfortably numb for

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the eight billionth time so whoo so yeah so we're trying to do homework for you these

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are your cliff notes I do want to send a shout out to all my patrons thank you so much for

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all of your support and putting up for my zaniness and nuttiness on Patreon from videos

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to the VMR podcast to questions and different interactions that we do on there it is fun

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it is great it is only two dollars a month and you can try it for a week free and even

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if you go beyond the week if you want to try it for a month two dollars come to me and

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say hey you know what I honestly didn't enjoy it I'll pay pal you two bucks how about that

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anyway thank you so much for listening to this share it with your friends let us know

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what albums we missed what albums you enjoyed and which of these albums we turned you on

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to it's all part of the deal thanks so much once again and let's get on with the show

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welcome one and all to the May 17th edition of signals from Mars I am joined by the illustrious

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Jeremy Weltman we are back for another monthly albums review this is the first time we've

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been able to sync up to talk about April releases Jeremy how are you sir yeah I'm doing really

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well Victor thank you really nice weather here in the UK at the moment so really enjoying

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that how are you doing doing good our weather isn't as nice as it is a little rainy but

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is what it is we'll have to live with it and just kind of power on anyway there's plenty

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of good music to keep it bright and shiny on the inside so there you go all right so

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for those that don't know we recap some releases that have come out in the past month the previous

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month I should say Jeremy and I will discuss some highlights and some that stood out to

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us and pick our favorites for the week going back to April 5th we had new releases from

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the Black Keys with Ohio players Corpo Klani with something Finnish ingested blacktop mojo

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Cobra page with her solo debut filth austere alpha wolf alpha wolf excuse me proto sequence

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era disbelief the Neptune power federation temple of the fuzz which atomic dogs white

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dog planet on a chain iron monkey friends of hell funeral leech EPs from Chief State

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and Jason Blake featuring I can open this featuring Ralph Wenroth Brown reissues and

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a reissue from five finger death punch it's essentially the afterlife deluxe edition all

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right Jeremy what are some of the albums that you listen to and which one stood out

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for you this week yeah so bear with me because April the fifth I had quite a chocker week

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compared to the others so I had to listen to the debut album from atomic kings this

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band is obviously from Phoenix Arizona they include the former Badlands bassist Greg Chasson

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or Chasson however you want to pronounce it real sort of good time laid back rock and

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roll this album sort of had tinges of Aerosmith black crows Stevie Ray Vaughan that sort of

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stuff very much just 70s more than an 80s vibe on this and for the most part I thought

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it was very good too you know very listenable effort it was nicely mixed it was produced

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on you know fairly lean budget with all sort of 70s extras you'd expect there was even

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a blues harp solo on there on the opening track and you know occasionally some harmonized

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backing vocals on there so yeah I really I quite enjoyed that one I also tried out another

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70s feel album double dog dare by white dog that was okay but it wasn't quite as good

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as the the previous one the atomic king's one so I moved on and I listened to the punky

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thrash sounds of culture of death by the fabulously titled band planet on a chain a lot of sort

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of shouty angst on this it all sounded a bit samey but it you know it had its moments you

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know band that would kind of fill a small pub with a big sound that's the sort of the

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way I'd describe them and the same could be said as well for spleen and goad by the British

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sludge metal band iron monkey some good songs on this I really like rat flag which was you

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know quite an interesting song so yeah there was some good good music around and then I

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moved on to the doom laden effort by temple of the fuzz which called apotheosis that was

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on ripple music and apparently it's their third album so I went back and listened to

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their earlier stuff as well and I noticed there's some real changes in production on

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each one and for me I think they finally got it right with this one I think there was you

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know they got the echo right on it they they had the brooding tones right on this lots

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of sort of black Sabbath style riffing not least on the album closer ashes which I enjoyed

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and there was a nice mix of the sort of clear and growly vocals on it so it all kind of

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worked for me I you know I really liked it quite a bit and that was my album of the week

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okay cool I listened to a bunch of different things I listened to the black keys album

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which was all right it was pretty much in line with everything that they've released

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in the past listen to the blacktop mojo album pollen which was kind of over polish kind

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of too radio friendly for me kind of expecting something else alpha wolf which is kind of

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in line with other stuff that they've released for me the album of the week though is the

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very Genti era with cure I posted a few videos on on the patreon page and yeah I mean there's

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aspects of this that are very in line with a lot of more modern metal bands but it's

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got some melodies and different things that really stood out to me and had some earwormy

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type courses there that got stuck in my head so that's my pick for April 5th so cool let's

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move on to the second week of April April the 12th we had new releases from set your

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sales vulture tear I guess well this is French tonnerie tonnerre I don't know how you pronounce

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that I didn't take French um tarot eminence make sure king zebra blue oyster cult the

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running gag riot v which you know did not come out this day about us Belmont the vision

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bleak heavy temple Jacob castle I guess pronounced Necrot nest EPs from North lane grey haven

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Tina Fey mutual mutually asserted destruction and let's see there's a reissue by I may have

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this wrong I believe I do attacker the god particle I don't believe this is a reissue

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be a new album folks yeah I think it is a new album it is a new album so I totally screwed

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this up and had I realized this I would have listened to this album because the videos

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that I have posted really kind of stood out to me let's see and there's a compilation

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from Lincoln Park paper cuts singles collection 2002-2023 and a live album from Johnny thunders

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cos cosanostra live at the mud club Gothenburg 1983 so Jeremy what did you listen to this

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time around yeah this was an interesting week I mean I started listening to ghost stories

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the the latest and probably the last album from bluest occult a collection of sort previously

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unreleased material this one it even included a cover of kick out the jams it sounds a little

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bit dated to be honest it's all begs the question as to why these tracks weren't released in

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the first place you know they they released them much later in their career just as a

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you know to bring out another album I mean it's not bad but it's sort of you know highlights

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the variety of songs that the bands the band has done over the years but it'll only appeal

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to the completist BoC fans are there I think and it's certainly not a patch on the symbol

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remains which I thought was a really cracking album the new songs they brought out in 2020

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so yeah I moved on to the riot v album mean streets the successor band to riot of course

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and you know I haven't listened to much to riot since the 1980s I know that might sound

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strange because if you know they've released a lot of albums so I came to this one with

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fairly fresh ears and you know it's sort of it's got nice sort of power metal tones to

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it a little bit at shades of man o' war on there notably on the opening track hail to

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the warriors which I kind of liked I really like the mix and production on this you know

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it's it's a sort of metal I like it you know the guitars really attack they drive the songs

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along you know they've sort of got nice mix of melody in there as well they've even got

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a Judas Priest style riff on love beyond the grave so overall I liked it you know quite

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a bit even though it's a little bit tongue-in-cheek in parts but I didn't pick it's my album

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of the week and I could have it was you know it was one that was in the running for it

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but I picked the really great hard rocking album from the Swiss band King Zebra between

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the shadows on on frontiers I mean there's maybe nothing very original on this and a

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lot of bands are like that nowadays you know it's just a very good classic rock listen

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it's very polished production you can hear all the instruments there's a really great

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vocal from Eric St. Michael's you know this guy would have been a big star in the 80s

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for sure you know he's got that sort of persona he's got that voice and there's some real

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great riffs on here some really super youthful energy and it's topped off with a good deal

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of class as well so you know King Zebra is my album of the week check it out.

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Cool I want to send a quick hello to Chris Szynsak from Despo Geek who's joining us

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in the chat saying for once available to watch happiest of Fridays to you and to you sir

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glad that you're here with us and he seems to agree with the blacktop mojo assessment

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all right cool so I listened to vultures sentinels that's out on metal blade if you're a fan

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of merciful fate King Diamond that probably right up your alley the tear album battle

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him or battle him yeah speaking of man o' war battle ballads yeah this takes me back

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to listening to a band of this ilk and or hammer fall or anything like this and it just

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makes me listen to some early Halloween I will say this this album is sounds great

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the production sounds really good the guitars are thick heavy they're tuned flat so it's

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got that to it which makes it sound really cool just not my thing.

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It's a shame I would have listened to the attacker album I did get to listen to the

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North Lane album because some of the North Lane stuff is although it's modern it does

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have again similar what I mentioned about the era album it's got some melody and stuff

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to it but this EP really did not.

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My pick of the week is from an Australian band called Tarot the album is called the

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glimpse of the dawn this is a band that had gone away for quite some time this is their

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first album in quite a long time and it's a real throwback to early 80s new wave of

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British heavy metal sounding music and it's produced in that vein so if you're into that

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sort of hard rock heavy metal I would say check out glimpse of the dawn by Tarot so

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cool let's see moving forward to the 19th listen to a lot of stuff from the 19th had

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new albums that's good because I didn't saw new albums from Pearl Jam my dying bride high

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on fire the Melvins no effects Billy Morrison praying mantis Don Jameson Vanden Plas the

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ghost inside dune blaze of perdition blood bound actually listen to the blood bound I

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didn't mark that off let's see light worker day seeker bounce of power adder tomorrow's

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rain for Schwann's I guess this is pronounced Noctura Vera Calpa cloud nothing's see you

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space cowboy thief dual quantum the outfit Johnny nasty boots Martin Haworth satanic

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north a tray billis and EPs from unpeople and son of rah and actually compilation from

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moon spell so you listen to two albums which two did you listen to and which was your pick

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yeah I just like say that Johnny nasty boots I mean I really need to go back and listen

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to that because I hope I like it because I'd love to have a t-shirt with that on yeah it

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was that was well the reason the reason I didn't listen to very much I was on holiday

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and I didn't take my headphones away I ended up sitting on the beach I have my phone and

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I was flicking through and then I was looking around for my headphones and I realized I

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left them at home and I was mad absolutely livid so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go

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straight to the album of the week because it's a really good one it's defiance by the

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UK band praying mantis and just like the Lionheart album which I reviewed the previous month

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it's a really fine collection of melodic hard rock I've listened to this quite a few times

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actually it's a long time since I've heard this band I mean I haven't really sort of

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followed them you know over the years I pretty much ignored them since the 1980s when they

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first came out and I remember them when they did and I think I need to hear some more of

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their music because this is their 13th studio album and as with the Lionheart album they

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really try to write sort of listener friendly pop rock sort of earworms they're very successful

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at it as well but similar to Lionheart they they seem to get it right Dutch singer John

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Kuypers you know has a really good voice for the band as well and if at times they sound

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a little bit like Europe it's it's not to their detriment you know they they pull it

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off quite well there's even a version of the Ross Ballard song I surrender which of course

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you're familiar with from Rainbow I didn't realise but the band actually recorded I surrender

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for the debut album but they were actually not allowed to release it back in the day

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or there was presumably there's a lot of contractual obligations and Rainbow decided to go forwards

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with it and they were stopped from doing that maybe you know if they had released it back

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in the day maybe they'd have been a slightly bigger band than they were so I would suggest

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just go and listen to it it's a really good melodic rock band and a good melodic rock

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album Prey Mantis Defiance great album.

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Cool. So I listened to quite a few albums on here or that came out this week I listened

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to Pearl Jam's Dark Matter probably their best album best overall album since Versus

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in my opinion more up my stream I would say or something that's up my alley or however

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you want to say it but still just didn't didn't hit home for me my my Dying Bride was okay

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Immortal Binding similar to what you said before with with a few other albums just kind

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of same Z doom metal listen the first song is really really good which is one of the

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singles that I posted on Patreon it's really cool but nothing else kind of equals it after

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it's all kind of same Z High on Fire the Cometh Cometh the Storm High on Fire is a band that

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I either really love or really bores me there's always one really great song off of the album

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it's usually the first cut on the album and True to Form that's exactly how it was not

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a bad album but if you've listened to them before you've heard it all before the Melvins

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Tarantula Heart similar to what I just said about High on Fire I either absolutely love

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their music or it loses me first song is great got some really cool melodies and then you're

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as is the entire album I mean I know that they have a lot of diehard fans I don't want

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to piss anyone off I can take it in small doses small doses Jesus tongue-tied Billy

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lost Ozzy tracks that Mark once talked to Steve Stevens about because there are several

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tracks with Steve Stevens Billy Morrison there's at least one with Ozzy on here which the single

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has already come out I like the album it is all over the place that's not a bad thing

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there's a lot of different people contributing to this what else that I was to a list of

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the blood bound details of Nosferatu it's power metal basically this is this is a hard

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week for me to pick from there's a lot of stuff that I list to there's a lot of stuff

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that came out man I'm gonna have to give the nod to the Billy Morrison because I think

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it's gonna be what I'll end up listening to the most it's I mean there's nothing that's

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really original but I could see myself listening to it more and more and wow I'm just realizing

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that with the 26th I did the opposite of you Jeremy oh no not true I just didn't write

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down what I did listen to all right here we go anyway new albums from except humanoid

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deicide dark throne black tusk Lee Aaron enter Alma darkness not the darkness but darkness

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something that you found out about oh you I don't know how it's pronounced they they're

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a Chinese band part party cannon six by six Vesperian sorrow pentagram chili disbelief

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Amy and so I don't know if I'm pronounced that correctly art microwave jolly Jackers

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EP from wretched blessed live albums from transatlantic and tigers of pantang and reissues

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from deaf leopard pyromaniac expanded edition I'm surprised that Phil Collins didn't have

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them include songs off of hysteria on it disillusion and the compilation from wasted won't get

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out alive wasted volume one eighty three through eighty six now before hold on before we jump

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to going through this list how many years was wasted around not that many eighty three

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to ninety maybe yeah I had a push yeah are we expecting a volume two which will cover

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eighty seven through ninety the the Danny Vaughn years before we went and formed taiketa

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the code even be a volume three there yeah wild all right I know that we both listened

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to one of these albums but I don't want to put the cart before the horse here what did

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you listen to Jeremy yeah I'm kind of wishing I listened to this way see because it you

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know be quite interested to go back and listen to some of the old stuff and I did actually

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give a quick listen to pyromania but then I found out there was exactly the same as

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I remember it so there wasn't anything new really for me I mean obviously they put on

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some extras but they hadn't really re-recorded or anything so it was the same old album but

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it was it's it's a good album so I'm not knocking it but you know as far as new albums

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are concerned I listened a little bit to the way forward by black tusk the American Sludge

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Metal Act that really you know one or two songs in and I'm thinking well I've had enough

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of this by now it's not my kind of thing to listen to that all the time it was okay but

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a special mention goes to live blood by the you know the Whitley Bay born new album come

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melodic rock stalwarts tigers are pantang you know I remember listening to them back

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in the day as soon as they started obviously John Sykes was in there for a while where

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is John Sykes we'd love to hear from him please phone in now on this number which see

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yeah it what this album by them by the way is is is mostly sort of 1980s tigers tunes

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which was quite interesting by the present lineup so you get some sort of updated old

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songs and a bit of feel for what the tigers gigs are like now but playing all the old

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tracks so I think it was good but I think it lost a little bit of what the original

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magic of tigers of pantang was you know that that harder edge was not there this sort of

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the enthusiasm that they had from the original the original band so I'm not sure it's an

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album that I'd listen to you know a huge amount and I think that they were missing John Deverell

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as well the old singer who you know used to sing Paris by air and do it good and love

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potion number nine and his voice was really missing off those tracks so it was a really

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easy choice this week for my pick I mean the album the week is gonna have to go to the

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17th studio album from the Teutonic Rockers except they're six now with Mark Tornio on

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vocals I mean what you get is you know it's a very typical except offering the usual riffs

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you know the recognizable vocal sound the same quality production you know what you're

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gonna get I mean probably overall it's a slightly better album than the previous one I think

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and that's what I'll say to me today I quite enjoyed but I think I'm enjoying this one

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a little bit more it's hardly breaking any new ground of course it's except what you

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know you know what you're gonna get it's not on the level of stout Stalingrad but still

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you know after a few listens it's consistency and you know it deserves to be album of the

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week okay so I listened to humanoid as well and I think you summed it up very well I think

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that it's probably their most solid album out of the last few that they've released

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similar to what you said it's not as good as Stalingrad I think every album since Stalingrad

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has kind of been a step behind Stalingrad but out of the last three four it's probably

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their most consistent from beginning to end I'll say that the other album that I listened

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to was six by six beyond shadow land it was a good album I even my younger son Adrian

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says to me this isn't bad I like a few of the songs off of it so I'm sure that he's

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already added them to one of his playlists but I think that this album has the yard metal

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seal of approval more than likely just because of the vein that it's in this is a more or

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less a supergroup with different components of people that have come from other frog bands

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I believe one of the members is also I don't want to screw this up look up oh all right

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so one of them you're pretty familiar with

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why did I do that I had all the information in front of me all right this is right off

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of their home page six by six feature featuring from saga guitarist Ian Critchton the Niall

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Glocker powerhouse drummer for British metal masters saxon and vocalist and multi-instrumentalist

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Robert Berry from three and alliance are pleased to announce the release of their sophomore

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offering beyond shadowland so Robert Berry is the one that I'm thinking of working in

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different progressive type outfits obviously Glocker is known for saxon the album runs

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a lot of different gamuts of hard rock and has a real proggy feel to it it's on inside

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out music so inside out specializes in prog rock you're listening to stuff that's very

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much in line with other stuff that they're releasing on the label I wanted to mention

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it just to give people another option to listen to but for me I will have to also say that

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the accept is probably the album that sticks out to me the most for this week so cool Jeremy

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and I do these shows to you know for as I say quote for the quote unquote lazy listeners

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who say that there's no good music coming out there's always good music coming out and

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this way when you put your year end pulled together and submit it to signals from Mars

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we've helped you do some of the homework you can go back and listen to these individual

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episodes they're listed right there on the home page and you can go month by month by

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the end of the year you'll have 12 episodes to listen to and maybe even want to go back

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further and say hey did I miss out on any albums from last year got you covered we've

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got those there as well so we've also got you covered for the summer months Jeremy

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is wearing a signals from Mars cap if you've been privy to me trying to sell our wares

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here I refer to it as the signals from Mars Jeremy cap there you go we had Brad doll wearing

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the Brad bucket hat last week in our household we have received the new distressed classic

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pullover hoodie oh yes even though it is a gray hoodie everything else appears in gray

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all of the design that mr. Anthony Mackie has put together for us we're still awaiting

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the distressed women's premium v-neck t-shirt but if you're interested we've also got the

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classic t-shirt we've got the classic hoodie I've got that one too that comes out in the

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winter I've got the hoodie and the classic tea my wife did say about her hoodie that

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it is quite warm so that is the going comment it is quite soft and quite warm yeah that's

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nice nice quality yeah got the windbreaker jacket we've got the bomber jacket and we've

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also got the beanie which hey maybe somebody wants to wear a beanie or maybe they're in

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the southern half of the world where winter is approaching or winter is coming or just

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bald or just bald I want one of these and you need a hat I've got a friend of mine who

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he's never without his woolly hat for that reason and yeah there's a small kickback for

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each one of these pieces of merch which helps fund stuff here and it all adds up anyway

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we're gonna talk about some questions Jeremy's always great at coming up with different questions

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and different things so we've got three things that he's thrown my way and I'm sure that

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there are others that will come up along the way as well so number one we were just talking

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about accept Wolf Hoffman responds to Peter Balz comments that accept albums started to

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sound the same what do you think about that hmm well I think he's got a he's got a fair

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point I think the last three four five albums by accept do sound very similar you know you

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could put particularly the last three albums I think you could mix them up and you could

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you could put various songs on each album and you're listening to pretty much the same

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album that doesn't mean to say though that they're bad albums as we've already mentioned

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you know the the current album we really like we think it's better than the previous album

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so they they've got great songwriting but they just sound similar and I don't think

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that's a huge problem and a lot of bands need their signature sound I think we'd all probably

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be pleased if Iron Maiden went back to their 80s sound and played a lot of the music that

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they used to play then on a new album right they have actually branched out and plays

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sort of more proggy stuff and longer tracks and we're not so happy with that side of things

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so you know it's not a bad thing that they sound the same and I think the argument in

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the article was also that he has left the band so they often say that when they've left

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the band it's a kind of passing remark and I guess there is a little bit of that to it

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as well but he's got a point you know yeah I don't think that the blabbermouth server

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is down once again I think Peter is being honest as you say there's there's nothing

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wrong with with that but yeah the everything from Stahl and Gratt onwards has kind of

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a connection they they all sound pretty much the same and listen they're catering to their

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audience there are so many other bands that do the same thing so it's not unique to them

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it works for them if that's what Wolf Hoffman chooses to do then so be it it's his band

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number two man I forgot to wear my Def Leppard t-shirt I'm wearing an anthrax t-shirt a volume

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eight t-shirt if anyone is interested anyway so Joe Elliott has come out and just to sum

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up his quotes Def Leppard aren't metal and only two new wave of British heavy metal bands

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made it take this in parts so he said this during his recent appearance with Rack and

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Tours with Gary Kemp and Guy Fratt so he says I have an issue with the term heavy metal

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because everybody outside of rock always thinks if you're a heavy metal band it's like bad

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news you get this impression that everybody's a moron okay ACDC were a blues rock band UFO

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and Thin Lizzy were not heavy metal Motorhead even they had a blues influence to them Queen

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were never a heavy metal band but they had a few they had a couple of heavy metal songs

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thanks to Brian May and I think we we were pretty much in the same way it was rock absolutely

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heavy rock for sure okay if you listen to our first EP from 1979 there's a song called

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Ride into the Sun which was a pop song then you have get your rocks off was a full-on

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rock song if we're heavy metal then so are the Rolling Stones because it's two guitars

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bass drums and the singer it's a silly silly term I like rock when you start pigeonholing

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it gets on my tits and to be quite honest because can't we just all can't we just all

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be just a rock band or a pop band or both now four years ago he mentioned where is this

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when he was let's see address the fact that Def Leppard's debut single get your rocks

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off on the band's own label helped kickstart the whole new wave British heavy metal movement

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while a handful of new album or no album bands most notably Def Leppard and Iron Maiden achieved

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global success most of the genre genre has been considered relatively obscure ironically

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thrash the more extreme metal subgenre that was directly influenced by no album wound

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up having more commercial appeal and staying power okay so he told you discover music even

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after all these years the British media still try to lump us in with no album whereas the

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American metal or the American media still try to pigeonhole us as a hair metal band

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but none of that has ever stuck because we became established as a standalone band the

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fact of the matter is only two bands of note survived in a wobble tag that's us and Iron

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Maiden we're vastly different bands Def Leppard were where we are now playing stadiums and

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beyond and inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame because of who we are rather

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than because of we were part of a movement in 19 2005 he said we've had this argument

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many times if you put Lemmy Scott Ian and Ronnie James Dio in a room and say heavy metal

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Def Leppard discuss it all burst out laughing but at the same time you can take pink and

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Christina Aguilera and say Def Leppard pop music they do the same thing I don't know

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where we stand I don't think we ever believed we were metal band I think Iron Maiden were

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a metal band and a very good one we're a rock band and it goes on to say lumping us with

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Iron Maiden was as ridiculous as lumping us with Depeche Mode and we've spent 20 odd years

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trying to tell the whole world that we're not a British heavy metal band now if people

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finally hear the songs that influenced us they might finally get the picture anyway

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all right needless to say they covered personal Jesus by Depeche Mode so his argument is beyond

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stupid on various of these points the only asshole that seems to have a problem with

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the word heavy metal is Robert Plant since because all of these people still look up

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to Robert Plant and rightfully so to a certain extent Joe Elliott seems to think that heavy

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metal is a bad term on through the night high and dry and power mania have more to do with

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influencing bands like Armored Saint like Metallica I think if you ask Scotty and he's

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gonna tell you that the first few Def Leppard albums maybe hard rock not heavy not full-on

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metal could be considered heavy metal I think he would say that they were influential to

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a lot of bands that were doing what they do or what they did in the early 80s to say that

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John Sykes era thin Lizzy was not heavy metal is beyond stupid and it is showing how out

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of touch he is did Def Leppard with hysteria not poof out their hair dye their hair blonde

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wear eyeliner wear ripped jeans like all the bands from Hollywood were doing I mean so

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much shit that they were doing can be thought up as hair metal things that they were doing

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could be grouped in with new album to say that they were them and Iron Maiden are the

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only ones to make it is having a huge set of balls having a tremendous ego and being

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lost within your own ego is sax in a band that no one has heard of some people group

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Priest and Motorhead in the new wave of British heavy metal are the did those bands not make

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it I mean Joe Joe Elliott is has such a desire to be loved to be considered pop music and

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for as much as he wants to say that no we're not pop no you're a pop rock band to say that

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you group Pink and Christina Aguilera and ask them I don't know ask Taylor Swift you

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recorded with her would she consider you more of a pop band or would she consider you more

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of a metal band I would think she would lean more towards pop Jeremy what do you think

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well just taking on the they're the only two bands that came out I'd agree with you about

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sax and sax and were a big band around when they came out you know they had a lot of hit

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singles then they had a bit of a lull they've never been as big as Leopard or Iron Maiden

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but they've they've come back strongly and they're doing really well again and they've

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got in the top 10 in the UK album charts recently with their latest album so I'd say that they've

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been a big success from the new album era so to say just only two bands yeah okay on

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you know record sales and you know seats in theatres yeah we know those two bands are

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enormous but there's a lot of bands that have done well that Raven are doing quite well still

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touring and producing albums and we all know the name Diamondhead did okay you know and

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none of these bands were ever as big as Def Leopard but they all survived and they're all

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well known and they're all producing great music so it's dissing even the smaller bands who are

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you know still carving a trade out of it and doing well really because it can't all be you know mega

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stars so that's a that's the first point and the the other point is I think Def Leopard have

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changed you know they've changed a lot and they've carved out what they wanted to do they wanted to

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become a commercial pop rock band they started off as a as a as an old school heavy metal band

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because old school heavy metal was different to what heavy metal is now you know when we were

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when we were kids in in the 1980s you know a lot of softer rock bands were called heavy metal

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you know Iron Maiden were not as heavy as they could have been initially and Saxon and all these

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bands they they produced commercial type music but it was all what we were classed as heavy metal

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and I class Def Leopard in with them you know we all we all thought they were you know that they

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were part of the new wave of British heavy metal and the albums that you mentioned are the ones

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that you know you were classed as heavy metal High and Dry is a is a hard rocking heavy old school

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heavy metal album there's no doubt about it but yes the band has changed and yes Joe Elliott's

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completely right if he wants to say that they're not a metal band now that's fine we know they're

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not they produce soft rock they produce a load of absolute shite if you're asking me but but they

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used to be they used to be a really good band and they're still good live so I'm not knocking them

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on two points but on the third point what they're producing on record is is terrible it's as bad as

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Bon Jovi and you know those two bands were fantastic in their heyday so yeah that's fine

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but he shouldn't diss heavy metal as a genre either because we all know there's one band out

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there that is knocking Def Leopard off the planet at the moment it's Judas Priest they've just

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released a fantastic album they're touring producing absolutely top-notch heavy metal British heavy

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metal which is blowing away Def Leopard and I'm sorry there's a little bit of anger creeping in

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here but it shouldn't be because you know I love the band I love all music and I love all bands but

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you know you shouldn't really be dissing it you should be really associating with it in some way

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he doesn't have to say that they are a you know a heavy metal band Def Leopard but he could be sort

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of saying you know I appreciate that we were once and that you know we are lumped in with that sort

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of group really. Yeah it's as if they're ashamed of that air of the band you know and it's dumb

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because and it's what gets me all the time no Hysteria's are our most important album yeah

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because it bought you cars and houses but which was the most influential which what's what are

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people going to remember what are the you know and it's not that list of these aren't all of them but

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I'll quickly go over this list on Wikipedia Black Rose Blitzkrieg Bronze Kromali Cloven Hoof Demon

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who just released an album Diamondhead Deanna Dumpy's Rusty Nuts which I believe Mike Jones

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brought up Girl Girl School Gog Magog Grand Prix Grim Reaper

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Hell Holocaust Iron Maiden Jaguar Lionheart Mama's Boys

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Motorhead is on here

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Persian Risk Praying Mantis Quartz Raven

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Samson Satan Savage Saxon Shy Sweet Savage Tank

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Tokyo Blade Tigers of Pang Tang

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Urchin

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Tokyo Blade Tigers of Pang Tang Urchin Urchin is kind of underground but

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Adrian Smith Band Vardis Venom White Spirit Witchfinder General

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so yeah and there's and there's even more there's Fist and there's more and there's

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Samson and there's you go on and on it's just yeah there's so many yeah so many of them.

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So let's look at it this way who's sold more albums who's sold more tickets Iron Maiden or

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Def Leppard and for him to say no we're playing stadiums yeah you're playing stadiums with three

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or four other bands Def Leppard on their own is not playing stadiums they're playing amphitheaters

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at the most so let's be honest they had the tour with Motley Crue and Poison to play stadiums last

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year. Yeah there's a big reason for that as well is that the youngsters are into Iron Maiden but

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they're not as into Def Leppard as they are Iron Maiden because they want that harder edge that's

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why you see so many more kids going to to Iron Maiden concerts because it's edgy and it's got

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that sort of you know independence feel that they like in a band and they like the imagery

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and Def Leppard doesn't have that really so it's a bit Def Leppard really if you go to Def Leppard

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concert over here in the UK it's all people my age you know it's a lot of a lot of 40 and 50

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year old women going well and I'm assuming that in the states it's the same thing but at the end

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at the end of the day you mentioned Priest there's another band out there that has no

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issue saying that they're heavy metal Iron Maiden have no issue saying that they're heavy metal

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Metallica have no issue saying that they're heavy metal

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so who's selling more tickets who's who's selling more albums today

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I've got my money on Metallica and they've they've never had an issue with saying that

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they're heavy metal band they've never had to go out of their way to say we're not this we're not

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that so and again if you're not a hair metal band well then Joe Elliott don't don't I mean

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he's got the hairstyle of a grandmother I mean let's be honest you know yeah

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the other thing is we know which Viv Campbell would rather be we really know

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that surely I mean he he's he's playing on one string for Def Leppard surely and and for when

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when he's playing you know when he's playing in the Dio stuff he's playing guitar he's he's

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he's rocking out he's playing heavy metal he can't be enjoying it and Def Leppard

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he's losing money he's paying to play as last in line he's just an employee in Def Leppard which

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which allows him to do his hobby his love which is playing heavy metal

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Steve Brown saved Def Leppard yes yes he saved Def Leppard he saved a single

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Def Leppard he saved days and I'm sure he'll save Vinnie Vincent next

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all right last point of the night new Deep Purple single and does the world still need Deep Purple

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when my 11 year old comes rushing in the morning and says there's a new Deep Purple single out

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they're coming out with a new album did you hear the song yet it's really good that's an 11 year

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old saying it and I know that I am lucky to have that in my household all right I know that it's

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far from the norm so it's exciting to me to see somebody so young want to hear new music from a

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band like that and and I see him interpret things like he does ACDC like he does Iron Maiden like

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he does other bands where maybe and with the ACDC I like the last album but there's other stuff that

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maybe I'm not into but he's got fresh ears fresh eyes on it and it makes me appreciate some of it

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more what did you think about the single yeah it's quite interesting because the last sort of

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maybe 10 years worth of Deep Purple I couldn't name you a track that's a hit single there's no

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commercial songs that they've released and not like the old era the smoke on the waters the woman

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from Tokyo all that sort of stuff but they've they've done something that's very interesting

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what they've done is and I remember reading about this I think Ian Gillan and maybe even Pace even

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mentioned this they all come to the table and they've decided now that they'll just play what

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they really enjoy playing and they'll see where it goes and you can really tell when you listen

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to their albums the other thing is they seem to throw a lot of money into the production

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and the production I think is really really good Ian Gillan's voice is sounding really good you

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know it's really clear you've got that lovely keyboard sound very rich sound on the keyboards

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I really like this single I think it's good I think it's very modern Deep Purple they've

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gone in this new direction but they kept that sort of old set you know it's Deep Purple you've got

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that the keyboards are there the vocal that is there it's got that sort of laid-back feel that

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you know is a Deep Purple type track and they've obviously got a new new guitarist now Simon

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McBride on this one and he seems to have knit into it and I'm really looking forward to listening

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to the album because I think it's again like the Rolling Stones they you know the last album by

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then was really good and I'm kind of thinking that they're so late in their career they're just

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really enjoying playing music and coming up with you know classic sounding not classic sounding but

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classy sounding tracks which you know and there'll be a nice mix on the album they

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sort of do the odd bluesy one they do a little funky one it reminds me a little bit of do you

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remember the album Future Shock by Gillan where he kind of went off on a tangent and he decided

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to do what he wanted to do and it kind of worked the production on that wasn't very good but the

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Bernie Tormey guitar in was fantastic and and he did all these really weird and odd sounding

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tracks and they all came together and I think that's what Deep Purple are doing and if it

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appeals to the young people I think that's brilliant you know if they all get into Deep

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Purple and then they go back and listen to all the old stuff and say hey this is you know have

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you heard Burn have you heard Stormbringer you know that that's fantastic for me so yeah they've got

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a real place in music they're not going to be around forever could be another album or two

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album and you know they're not going to last forever unfortunately but it's great to see them

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and there's three original well not original members but three of the you know the members that go

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back all the way one of them's an original so it's great and that's interesting because nobody is

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saying oh they're just a tribute band have have you ever heard any Deep Purple fans say they're

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just a tribute band no which is what so many people say about Judas Priest now oh they're

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,840
tribute band there's only one or Ian Hill is the only original yeah okay but

508
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:08,640
yeah okay but you know the the rest of the guys have done impressive things um Bob Ezrin has

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produced this new album as well I'm wondering if Simon McBride being added to the mix has

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added something in the studio with maybe there's a little bit more levity to it I don't know

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uh but I think it's great that you know Priest, Deep Purple, The Stones as you mentioned some of

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these bands so late in their career are just kind of saying fuck it we're just going to do what we

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want to do and you know kind of don't care about that radio single or you know quite quite the

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opposite of the Def Leppard mentality you know yeah um if if and I've said this a million times

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they're never going to release another high and dry but if they sat down and just wrote a good

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rock album they can't even claim to be a rock band because they're not releasing rock music

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I mean it's to quote you utter shite yeah I mean yeah two or three songs on an album is okay

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you know it's listenable but beyond that there's a lot of crap on it yeah um yeah we're we're

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we're we're we're just a rock band yes sure you are um all right anyway I knew that the Def Leppard

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uh portion of the show was going to get me going but uh yes just to remind everyone

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Steve Brown saved Def Leppard he also wrote all of Ace's last album

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don't let Ace know that uh anyway on that note I do want to thank you once again Jeremy for joining

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