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Welcome everyone to episode 380 of Signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor.

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And for this episode I'm joined by two of my patrons.

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Mr. Ed Ferguson.

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Mr. Brad Doll.

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We're gonna be talking all things hard rock and metal.

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We're gonna be throwing around a bunch of topics.

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Yeah, those types of music discussions that you had as a kid, as a teenager, as an adult.

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Yeah, you're still having them today.

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Thanks for joining us.

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I'm ready.

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Let's do it.

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One of the most interesting things about living overseas is explaining different phrases that

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are used in English that maybe don't have direct translations.

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The one thing that came up recently, and I bring this up because this is a music related

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thing, is the term beating a dead horse.

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Of course the Guns N' Roses track comes up.

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It's something that I think of when discussing stuff like that.

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And yeah, there wasn't a direct translation.

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For those that don't follow my other podcast, it was something that was basketball related,

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just shit that I'd been dealing with all year and that perhaps it's time to let go.

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I don't know.

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Still frustrating.

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So many music related terms that I could think of are music related song titles, lack of

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communication, communication breakdown, so on and so forth.

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But yeah, just powering on through my first year as a head coach.

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Interesting, interesting.

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Want to hear more about that?

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Go to Patreon and check out my Victor M. Ruiz podcast where I talk plenty of basketball,

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plenty of life, plenty of different things.

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I talk about, or I record stuff while out on walks, walk and talks, as we've come to

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affectionately call them, always fun to, not always fun, but recant some of my stories,

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some of the past week stuff.

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Sometimes like this past week, I didn't put an episode out because there was just too

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much shit that I was dealing with and just didn't want to rain on anyone's parade.

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How about that?

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I, you know, I try to, I want to keep it light and towards the music and whatnot, but sometimes

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it's not possible.

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So if you are interested in hearing me ramble further, Patreon show is available for anyone

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that signs up for Patreon.

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Others other great stuff on there, videos that I post, just different questions and

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posts that I routinely do, at least I tried to.

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And we have a fun time on there discussing all types of things.

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I do want to send a quick shout out to my patrons, Sean Richmond, Chris Szynsak of Despo

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Geek, Tony Espin, Anthony Mackie, the creator of the great Signals for Mars logo, Ed Ferguson,

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who's on this episode, Johan in Sweden, Metal Dan, Jose, Jose my cousin, I could say, Chris

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Vaglio from the song swap showdown podcast, Gabriel, the metal dentist, another relative,

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another cousin, Brad doll, who's also on this episode, go to yourgmetal.com got all types

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of great music playing 24 hours a day.

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We have Mike Jones, who I hope to hook up with this summer when I'm in New Jersey, with

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Jeremy Weltman, who I hope to hook up with in October when I'm in London.

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We have Steve Hoker and Stephen Saylor, hopefully hooking up with Steve Hoker this summer as

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well as he's going to be the one that's closest to me.

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Yeah, join us on Patreon.

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In any event, go to signals from Mars dot com.

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Join us there.

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Check out other episodes.

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Check out all of the great social media platforms where you could like the show, share with

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live show, the video version.

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And that's pretty much it.

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Let's jump on into this hour one episode.

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Welcome one and all to the April 26th, 2024 edition of Signals from Mars.

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I'm your host, Victor.

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And joining me today for this pre-recorded extravaganza is Mr. Brad Dahl out in Idaho

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and Ed Ferguson in Kentucky.

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How are you guys tonight?

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Doing great.

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Thanks for having us, Victor.

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Awesome.

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Thanks for joining me.

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So we have a few different news topics here that we're going to talk about.

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These hour one episodes are always great because it's just chatting music like we've all done

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growing up and we've continued throughout the years.

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So hopefully you guys enjoy this and help spread the love, spread the word with with

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your friends.

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And there you go.

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We've got some merch going.

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We've actually got two new pieces of merch, which Brad is showing off merch, not that

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it's specifically the two new pieces that we've added.

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I do have to add them to the live stream.

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But yeah, right off the bat here.

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Brad is styling the Brad bucket hat.

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He's got the t-shirt going.

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It's very soft.

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Nice job, guys.

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Are you talking about the t-shirt or yourself?

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I'm a bit what you would call doughy.

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Doughy.

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Yeah, I'm like the Pillsbury Doughboy, you know, the sweatshirt or the hoodie, which

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I have upstairs.

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Yeah, I might need to get one of those.

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We also have the windbreaker.

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Of the bomber jacket.

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Jeremy Welton cap.

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Brilliant.

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And we have a beanie and also added to the shop, which I need to add the QR codes here

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or to distressed as I call them distressed logo t-shirt and hoodie.

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Actually women's t-shirt for now and unisex hoodie.

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The great Anthony Mackie out of the blue sent me over.

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He said he was toying around with the design and came up with something that in the car

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world would be called a murdered out logo.

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So it is all gray.

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It is the usual logo, but everything is gray.

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So I was looking to put together a, you know, a distressed shirt with that that had, you

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know, rips or whatever, but the closest I got to it was like a gray t-shirt.

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So there you go.

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I'd go with that.

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Yeah, I want to see that.

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Brown gray.

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So if you want to see that, you can go to signals from ours.com and right at the top,

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right, you can find the link to the merch and you can check it out there.

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All right.

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So let's let's talk some music here.

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First, a few weeks ago, it was discovered that Lizzie Hale would be joining Skid Row

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on some upcoming dates.

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Sebastian Bach subsequently stopped following her on social media.

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And now Sebastian Bach has said the only thing holding Skid Row reunion back is the business

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side of things.

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Now let me ask you guys, if it was a business decision, do you think that they would have

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gone to Lizzie or would they have tried to get back with Sebastian?

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Or do you guys feel that there's something besides business that's keeping them from

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getting together?

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And Brad, what do you think?

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I think it's absolutely not business.

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I think they just don't want to work with Sebastian ever again.

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I've heard Dave, Snake, Sabo say many, many times that, you know, we're having way too

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much fun to bring him into the mix.

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I mean, they're they're apparently making as much money as they they want to make.

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They're happy.

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And that's the most important thing.

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They're happy.

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And that would kind of be a buzzkill for them to bring him on board.

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Mark Striegel used to always say to me, come on, they need to get it.

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They need to get back together and do it once for the fans.

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Ed, do you think they need to get back together for the fans?

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If you were in a band and you were dealing with a Sebastian type character, would you

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forego your sanity just for money, even if there is more money there?

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Because I mean, I think we addressed this a few weeks ago.

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I think there's probably more money in them playing with Lizzy Hale than there is with

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Sebastian Bach.

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I think if if we're if we're going to talk about brass taxes, I think in twenty twenty

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four, her name probably makes more money and brings more people in than the Skid Row name

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does.

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Yeah, she might bring in a whole new audience.

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From her band.

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I think it's cool because I've never been a fan or follower of Skid Row, but I have

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kind of learned over the years how strange and jerky Sebastian seems to be.

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And when you hear the way that the other guys in the band talk about him, I have to agree

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with Brad.

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It sounds like he's just one of those people.

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It's not worth the money.

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And I feel that way about a lot of things in life so I can understand them feeling that

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way.

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And I think it makes me like I'm not even a big Lizzy Hale fan, but I think it's great

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and cool for her.

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And it's kind of neat to see him get so butthurt over it.

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Well, she's not really like part of the band now.

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She's just filling in, right?

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I was just hanging out with him for a bit.

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She said that she's willing to be in there for the long haul.

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Initially, four dates were announced and she said that she's going to be doing more than

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four dates with the band.

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I'd rather hear her than Sebastian myself.

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I don't think he's got an irreplaceable voice myself.

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I mean, I recognize people think he was a great singer, but yeah.

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I think Eric was so much better singer.

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They were so good with him.

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I mean, I saw him only once, but he and it was when he was still sick, man, where he

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was just getting over his cancer treatments and he could barely make it through a whole

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show, but he did.

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And he sang his ass off.

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I mean, he had everything and worked the crowd like a pro.

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Yeah, he was the real deal.

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I that's too bad.

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It's too bad he left the band because I think that kind of really gave them some legs.

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So the album that they did with him was really good.

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And yeah, it was probably just too much touring for him.

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But I mean, those shows they're doing now with Lizzie, at least a video I saw the other

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day, it was in a very tiny club.

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So I don't know if it's really boost in the audiences, but I don't know.

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You know, Victor, let's face it, most most people don't even know who's in bands anymore.

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They just like, oh, Skid Row, we'll go see Skid Row.

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Well, again, that was that was a discussion that I would always have with Mark when I

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would do this show with him.

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Where he would see Kiss and people would come up to him and say, wow, Ace looks great up

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there today.

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You know, he was 20 years removed, you know, was one of those things.

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So yeah, I think that you're that you're completely right that, again, the people just know the

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brand name and they they want to check it out.

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I think that it's it's the diehards that are the ones that are sitting with their with

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their arms folded in the corner saying, I'm not going to see them.

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And then when you know, when they come around to town, they break down and see them and

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they're happy that these songs are being played.

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You know, Ed, you're a big Slayer fan.

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They've obviously toured for a long time without Jeff and without Dave.

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If you know, they're going to be playing shows again.

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If they're coming remotely close to your area and the tickets are a decent price, are you

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hung up that Jeff and Dave aren't there and won't see them?

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Or, you know, if it's the perfect storm, would you still go see them without those two?

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Well, that's I would.

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I'm disappointed.

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Anytime.

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Dave's not included.

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If it was a decent price, I'd go and, you know, easy to get there for an old guy now.

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But now if they were trying to replace the vocalist, though, in that situation, Tom,

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there's no way.

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Yeah.

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But every almost every band and every fan is going to feel differently.

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You know, like when ACDC was having Axl sing, I was one of the guys standing in the corner

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with my arms crossed, refusing to listen to it.

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Right.

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But it still worked out well for them.

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I know.

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And I know that a lot of people didn't want to give it a shot and then ended up seeing

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videos and were like, oh, you know, it's not that bad.

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He actually sounds like kind of like Bond Scott and some of these, you know, on some

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of these tracks, because that's what he grew up listening to.

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That's why he wanted to be part of that whole experience.

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So Slayer comes to Lexington.

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What is what is the most you would pay to see Slayer in Lexington?

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Wow.

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There's probably not if they came here, if all I had to do is drive downtown five minutes

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away, there's probably not a price limit for that one.

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I just yeah, drink some bourbon and get a little tipsy and hit the buy button.

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All right.

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Five hundred bucks.

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Well, that's getting too much.

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Now, Lombardo, maybe if Dave's there, maybe so.

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Oh, both 150 bucks.

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Yeah, it'd be hard not to as much as I love that band.

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It'd be hard not to.

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Three hundred.

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It's like I normally would not.

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But there's, you know, just that every once in a while there'd be that thing.

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I would have to come back from the dead.

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I think.

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The same way I felt with, you know, Pantera, you know, if Dimebag and then you were back,

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then yeah, I'd pay three five hundred bucks to see that.

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All right.

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Current band, what's the most you would pay to see the current Pantera?

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Me?

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Forty, fifty bucks.

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All right.

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There we go.

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We've not really worth it more than that to me.

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I'd rather buy some records of bourbon.

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We may have to do a new segment in the show.

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What would Ed pay?

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See, that's how we can gauge him.

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Skid Row, Skid Row in Lexington.

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Zero dollars.

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What's that?

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Zero dollars.

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Zero dollars.

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They actually did come here last year.

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I should have taken my wife.

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She's a fan.

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That's why I have their album.

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It's for her.

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And they were really good.

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Eric.

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Yeah, I would have paid 50 bucks to see him with Eric.

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All right.

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So Ed, you wanted to talk a little bit about Megadeth.

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Yeah.

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I, you know, they streamed a couple of concerts from Buenos Aires.

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Did I say that right?

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With my Kentucky tongue.

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So I bought a ticket and had a friend come over who's also a big metal fan going all

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the way back to high school.

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And so that was my first chance to watch Tmoo playing guitar.

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And I got to say I 110% approved of this new guitar player.

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He was good.

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You know, Kiko I loved.

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You know, outside of Chris and Marty, Kiko was definitely my favorite as much as I liked

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all those other guitar players.

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But you know, Kiko was like even writing like that guitar solo and we'll be back.

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It was just he's writing new iconic guitar solos to me.

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Great, great player.

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It was sad to see him go, but Tmoo was a great, great recommendation because, you know, watching

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him play when you listen to the riffs and the solos, you can tell that he's a Megadeth

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fan because he's getting all those little inflections just right that you remember yourself

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as a fan listening to those songs over and over again.

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Now I have read articles where he says he gets a big kick out of, you know, learning

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guitar solos like that, you know, someone else's solo and getting all those different

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personality traits in there.

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And but you can also tell that he's obviously a fan because he's throwing in all the little

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things that you would expect that, you know, semi fans wouldn't.

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And then also his picking style is works really well with Dave's.

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I've always thought that, you know, even though Marty Friedman is like the better player,

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Chris's style fit Dave's style better because they're, you know, that alternate striking

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of the pick kind of sound.

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And Tmoo is like that too.

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So I'm thinking as far as, you know, who gels with Dave's playing the most, Tmoo is probably

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the best I've heard since Chris.

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So I'm really happy about this new Megadeth band.

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Their set list is pretty good too.

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They even threw in Devil's Island.

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Oh wow.

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Probably heard.

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Now I could have done with a few less of the 90s material and had, you know, I would have

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rather heard some more tunes off of P.Sells or something.

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But they did a good show.

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Have you seen him playing at all though?

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Yeah.

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Tmoo some like seriously watching him play.

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Yeah, I haven't yet.

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I know that Kiko hand picked him as a replacement.

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I thought the situation was kind of weird because it seemed initially like Kiko was

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just going away for a few months.

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And then all of a sudden they just announced that Tmoo was going to be the new guitarist

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and he was officially a member of the band.

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And I thought, well, that's kind of weird because it seemed like Kiko was coming back

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after this tour.

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And now Kiko is selling off all of his old Megadeth gear.

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So yeah, there's a combination.

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I don't know.

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It's just weird and similar to the whole Eric Gronwall situation where apparently Kiko just

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couldn't deal with all the touring.

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You know, he came from Angra who toured a lot less.

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You know, Megadeth is a touring machine like a lot of these thrash bands are.

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That's the art on his family.

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Yeah.

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And it's interesting because I thought of this the other day because they've announced

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some dates, well, Anthrax is playing South America now with Death Angel.

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And I was thinking how Charlie being in Pantera and Scott being in Mr. Bungle, I think is

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actually helping Anthrax because for a point in time there, they were just touring nonstop,

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like 10 months out of the year.

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And it just seemed like you're playing the same set list all the time, you know, and

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you're playing more or less the same areas throughout these tours.

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You know, what are you offering up outside of a different opening band that's going to

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get me to go back to see you?

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You know, so I think it's cool to hear you say that about Megadeth that they're switching

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up the set list, which I think is just so important.

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I mean, you've got 40 years worth of catalog.

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Why stick to playing the same 10 songs?

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And why are you only playing 10 fucking songs?

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You know, that's the other thing.

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That's the one complaint I have is that I could easily handle another hour of that show,

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whatever that was.

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Probably, you know, they probably did 20 songs in an hour, do an hour and a half, and I could

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have handled an intermission and done a whole other half of the show, especially with their

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catalog.

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And Megadeth fans would love it, too.

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Yeah.

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And for as much as, again, people shit on Metallica, they're doing two and a half hours,

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you know, of a rotating set list.

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That's what I want out of it, especially my thrash metal bands.

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I want that, a two hour show to cover more ground.

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Yeah.

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But do you think that that has to do more with the bands just being slothish and not

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wanting to play more?

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Or is it that they just physically can't play a lot?

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They can't play for more than an hour and change because of how demanding the songs

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are.

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Yeah, it's probably both once you get to this age.

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Especially the drummer.

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I mean, how many Megadeth songs could you play, Victor?

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I mean, I don't know.

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Victor might be a Superman, but that's the one thing watching them when we saw the Mormon

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for the Scorpions.

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Nathan commented because I don't know how that drummer played all that time because

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I mean, there's no very little let up at all in those songs.

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When did you see them open up for Scorpions?

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Oh, guys, probably like four years ago.

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Four or five years ago.

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No, it's probably more than that.

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It's before COVID.

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Yeah.

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So COVID was roughly four years ago.

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So I'm thinking Dirk was in the band.

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Dirk is a fucking monster.

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And whoever was was a monster.

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How long did you play like that?

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He's always played like that.

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And some of the stuff in Megadeth is easy compared to some of the stuff he used to play

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in Soilwork and in other bands that he's been in.

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And outside of that, he's a producer.

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He can play piano.

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You can play guitar.

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I mean, the guys, if you've ever seen him, Drumeo did some videos with him.

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And it's always interesting.

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They do stuff or they have drummers play stuff that doesn't mesh with them.

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And he played, I think, a song by The Killers.

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And they haven't played songs they've never heard before.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they play it for him without the drums.

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They somehow are able to strip the drums off and then they have these guys play along with

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it.

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I think that's a really cool thing to watch.

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Yeah.

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It's always fun.

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And he plays again.

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I think it's a song by The Killers.

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And he's really enjoying himself just like discovering the song.

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And then when he hears it back, he's like a little kid just listening to a complete song

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for the first time.

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It's really cool.

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So that's awesome.

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I'm looking forward to seeing them do something with Timo in the studio.

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Again, obviously, Dave is going to be the one that's at the rudder of the ship.

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But it's always fun to see what musicians he brings in and what flavors they add to the

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band.

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Yeah.

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You know what else is cool when you have a band like that with that big of a catalog?

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This happened to me since I watched that concert.

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I never was a huge fan of Countdown.

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It was kind of like listening to the Black Album for me.

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And so I didn't spend much time with it.

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But after watching that show the other day, driving in the car, I told Siri to play Countdown

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to Extinction for me.

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Turned it up loud.

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And I just loved every minute of that record.

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Now I'm interested to go and buy a copy of it on vinyl.

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So it's always fun, though.

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It's like getting into a new Megadeth record, even though it's, gosh, what, 30 years old

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now?

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Yeah.

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And that's actually one of my favorite albums by them.

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Whether that's a popular opinion or not, I think that album is a lot heavier than the

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Black Album because you have things like...

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Yeah, it's better, definitely.

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High speed dirt on that.

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You have...

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What the hell is the first track off of that, which is a fast intro song as well?

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Yeah.

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Ashes in Your Mouth is a great closer on that.

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Nick Menz is just tremendous on that track.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, he was a good drummer.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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So speaking of guitarists, Def Leppard, I actually have a Def Leppard t-shirt on under

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my jacket here.

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But Phil Collins appeared at a record store to sign copies of the new 40th anniversary

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of Pyromaniac, which they have released.

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Wow.

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And he ends up playing songs off of hysteria.

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What?

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Is that a joke?

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Are you kidding?

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No.

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It's April, but not April 1st.

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Yeah, that's pretty lame.

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Yeah, that is.

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And I'm thinking, come on, you're seriously...

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I mean, I understand you didn't write anything off of the album.

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He plays solos on a few songs.

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But it's apples and oranges.

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Fucking guy annoys me with the whole, oh, it's obviously our best album because it sold

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the most.

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Yeah.

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No.

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It's not.

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It's nowhere near as good as your previous two albums or the debut album.

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Not even close.

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You can argue all you want from hysteria onward if that's the best album.

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Maybe.

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But out of the first four?

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No.

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It's my opinion.

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Your opinion is right.

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I don't think you're going to find too many people that are going to fight you on that,

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Victor.

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Oh, yeah, you will.

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You'll find plenty of people that listen to your Sunday night or Saturday night 80s on

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whatever station where, hey, let's play, remember this song and it's pour some sugar on me every

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single time.

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For the 800 millionth time or you started it out by playing the song hysteria.

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You know, it's come on.

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Any rock fan for as much as the singles off of Pyromania, I can't listen to them all the

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time, but the deep cuts off of that album always work for me and high and dry top to

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bottom always works for me.

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Hysteria, I mentioned this during the 87 special.

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Love Woman.

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I mean, that feels like it was a leftover of something that they had written from one

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of the previous albums.

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But then you get into all the just uber poppiness on that album.

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So the dial MTV crowd loved it.

489
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Oh, yeah.

490
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All right.

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So moving on here, Deep Purple has announced a new album called Equal One.

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First album with guitar, Simon McBride.

493
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:38,880
I was reading an excerpt from an interview with Steve Morris, who says that he feels that

494
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Simon fits the band better.

495
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,400
Really?

496
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Yeah.

497
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Well, he says that he didn't want to do all the touring that Deep Purple does, that he

498
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,520
felt that they toured too much and that it kind of cut back on the specialness of the

499
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,440
band and that also physically it was too physically demanding.

500
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,040
And fellow to only 45 who Simon McBride.

501
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Yeah, yeah.

502
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,360
Yeah.

503
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,680
He's obviously the youngest guy in the band.

504
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:20,160
So for him, the stuff that I posted on Patreon, his solo material before he joined the band

505
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,880
or right around the time he joined the band, seemed to go over well.

506
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:32,080
And obviously, I haven't really seen like a huge outcry of people saying that, you know,

507
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,880
that he sucks or anything.

508
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,360
And the other thing, too, with Deep Purple fans, Deep Purple has always been a revolving

509
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,360
door.

510
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Yeah.

511
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Day one.

512
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:53,080
So I don't recall seeing any bring back Richie Blackmore, man.

513
00:33:53,080 --> 00:34:02,760
So speaking of which, I mentioned Drumeo a moment a moment ago.

514
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Have you seen Brad the Ian Pace video where he does a reaction to the drummer of another

515
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,040
band playing?

516
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,720
I think it's Speed King by Deep Purple.

517
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:21,600
Yes, I have seen that one, which is which is actually pretty cool because Ian puts out

518
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:28,200
videos all the time where he talks about people playing different songs and different things.

519
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,160
And he's you know, he seems really down to earth.

520
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,560
And he was you know, for that video, he was saying, well, you know, it's not exactly how

521
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,400
I played it, but he puts an interesting feel to it.

522
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680
And you know, in different parts, he says, wow, he's really got it there.

523
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,760
You know, he's playing same exact thing that I played on it.

524
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,400
And so it was it was cool to see that.

525
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,400
Yeah.

526
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,280
He's very gracious, and that's what you like to see.

527
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,440
I mean, sure, it's not going to you know, you don't want somebody played exactly like

528
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,160
you played it, although, you know, there'd probably be somebody that would.

529
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Mike Portnoy or somebody.

530
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:09,800
But yeah, I can see a lot of guys in his position that would like rip somebody.

531
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Can you imagine Richie Blackmore doing that?

532
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,320
It's like, listen, this guy play your song, Richie.

533
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,760
He would he would probably trash him.

534
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,760
He would.

535
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,760
Yeah.

536
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,560
And Ian's whole take on the whole thing is that he thinks it's great to see a guy in

537
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:32,600
his 20s playing his material and playing deep and, you know, a 70s Deep Purple era song.

538
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,720
And he was he was saying, you know, he was like you said, he was gracious about them

539
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:44,640
using their material, seeing a guy just going crazy on a drum kit and playing his stuff.

540
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Yeah.

541
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:52,560
And it's funny because he's also talking about double bass, for example, where he uses double

542
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,560
bass on that song.

543
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,600
And he says, you know, I really don't know how to do anything beyond this.

544
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,560
And it's awesome to see younger drummers that can really do a lot of cool stuff on double

545
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,560
bass.

546
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,560
I wish I could do that stuff.

547
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,120
You know, so he's he's a fan of seeing other people play.

548
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,240
So, you know, like you're saying, a richie Blackmore would probably sit there and say,

549
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:18,800
no, that should be a diminished note and he's playing it sharp and, you know, whatever.

550
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,840
I got to tell you something about Speed King.

551
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:30,200
I saw a video of a concert from way back in the day and they played Speed King.

552
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,480
And so this is in the middle of the show.

553
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,200
I mean, were they not planning for this?

554
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,840
So they bring out another bass drum and set it up in between songs and Mike and stuff.

555
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,840
Like the hell?

556
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
I mean, that was the 70s, I guess.

557
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,160
But I thought, why didn't you just have all that set up to start with other than he just

558
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,840
didn't want to, you know, be one of those guys that have a double bass and not use it?

559
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120
So I've seen way too much of that.

560
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,080
It's like this is one of my my big beef sector is drummers who have like all this kind of

561
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,000
crap on their drum set and don't use it during the show.

562
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,840
I mean, every time, you know, like Nathan, I go to a concert, if the drummer's got a

563
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,520
gong, we're like, OK, if he doesn't hit that gong, we're going to move him.

564
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,800
It's like, yeah, it just looks cool.

565
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,480
No, you got it.

566
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,800
You got to work it in there, dude.

567
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Which is why it was so cool to see Rush on their last few tours where they had like rotisserie

568
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,600
chickens and stuff like that behind them.

569
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Because it was to me, I always thought it was like them poking fun at bands having just

570
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,280
like copious amounts of equipment behind them that they were never going to use.

571
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,280
Yeah.

572
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Well, OK, I'm going to say that's OK, though, because it looks pretty bad ass when you got

573
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,160
a full line of Marshall amps back there, even though you know they're not using them.

574
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440
It's a great stage look.

575
00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,280
And you know, once Rush went to the no amps on stage or, you know, I guess Alex always

576
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,240
did have one, but they're all in ears.

577
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,160
You didn't need amps on stage.

578
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,880
I don't know, but it looks it looks cool, man.

579
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,560
I see these guys now that they just have pictures of amps back there instead of actual amps,

580
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,720
which is pretty funny.

581
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:19,760
That's weird.

582
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,280
Or LCD lights with, you know, Marshall LCD Marshalls.

583
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:35,920
With all of the what do they call the Kemper amps and stuff like that, where, you know,

584
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:44,140
a lot of people are aren't aren't taking amps with them anymore.

585
00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:49,560
They're just connecting that head to whatever sound system they're taking around with them

586
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,320
or even just a venue.

587
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:59,320
And interviewing Monty Pittman, where he mentioned that when he was playing with Madonna, he

588
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:06,560
had a Kemper and he had an Orange and he had the Orange set up through an Orange speaker.

589
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,500
And he used that for certain songs.

590
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:14,720
And then when he wasn't playing anything that was remotely rock related with her, he was

591
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:20,560
using the Kemper to just sort of add textures to stuff or out of the blue, she would say,

592
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:28,080
you know, David Bowie had passed away, so she wanted to play Rebel Rebel with him.

593
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,600
So he used the Kemper to try to sample a Marshall sound.

594
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And that's what he would do.

595
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:37,200
He said, you know, that she would come up and say, I'd really like to cover this song

596
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,960
tonight and he'd try to get as authentic as possible.

597
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,960
So cool.

598
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,960
Yeah.

599
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Now that I've done a whole show with in ears.

600
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Yeah, I didn't really need the app.

601
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,960
You can't really hear it.

602
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,960
I mean, you've got.

603
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Yeah.

604
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,960
So there you go.

605
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,960
I can't believe I said that.

606
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,880
Cool.

607
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,680
So moving on here, Ed, you also want to talk about Priest.

608
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Would you want to mention about them?

609
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,680
What's going on there?

610
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,200
So I've been listening to that record and like the other night when I invited my friend

611
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
over to watch the Meg this show, he came over early.

612
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,320
We had pizza and bourbon and put that record on just to listen to it all the way through.

613
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,760
And just amazing how heavy this record is.

614
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:40,820
So I was going to say that you remember we were talking about Martin Popoff, right?

615
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:46,120
That was him calling it the best record Priest has ever done.

616
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,360
And I criticize that.

617
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,720
But now he's not I'm not apologizing.

618
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:58,720
He's he's still wrong.

619
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:03,520
It's not better than sad wings or British steel or screaming.

620
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080
It's not going to be better than those records.

621
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:14,160
But at the same time, it's like you said about hysteria with Def Leppard, you know, post

622
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:20,320
Turbo all those records since then, it's probably the best one they've ever made.

623
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:27,480
But you know, it's also hard to compare this album to like 70s, early 80s Priest.

624
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,880
Even though it's all Halford, it's two different bands.

625
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Yeah, man, it's heavy.

626
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,760
I mean, they're they're giving bands like Metallica.

627
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,480
Some good competition here.

628
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,960
And also the guitar solos are awesome.

629
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,080
When you listen to that record, pay some attention to those solos.

630
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,480
I mean, you can tell they put in a lot of thought.

631
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,480
They're fun.

632
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,240
They they they come up with all these licks that add a lot of tension, you know, to the

633
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:56,520
melody that they're jamming on and did a great job.

634
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:02,680
I'm curious, though, to know how much Glenn Tipton played those solos.

635
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,960
You know, because they still listen, they listen as a guitar player.

636
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,960
Right.

637
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,680
But with with the illness he has, if he's playing those solos as complicated as they

638
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:21,000
are with the speed that he's playing with, that's pretty amazing that he's still keeping

639
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040
up with it like that.

640
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,720
I want to see some of that with Richie.

641
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:34,360
Yeah, I would imagine that Richie's probably doing the majority of the solos because Richie,

642
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,680
I mean, that elegant weapons album that he released last year.

643
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Yeah.

644
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,240
Really put that out there to show people say, hey, you know, I've got.

645
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,680
If Priest is done tomorrow.

646
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,000
Yeah.

647
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,480
This is what I have.

648
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,640
You know, he really put he really made a statement with that album.

649
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,680
I think, again, the biggest issue was was the singer kind of turned me off to that because

650
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,880
it was the millionth album released last year with Ronnie Romero on it.

651
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:12,960
But the album is heavy and his soloing and his.

652
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Composing is really what made that album work for me.

653
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,640
That makes sense, because, man, these solos are composed excellently.

654
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Yeah.

655
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,440
And, you know, a lot of the lyrics, I don't I haven't read all the lyrics, but some of

656
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:32,240
the songs, you know, have good messages that are connecting with me.

657
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,880
I mean, yeah, that's the guitar sound, the tone they're coming out with.

658
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,880
It's great.

659
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,880
They're doing it's awesome.

660
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Yeah.

661
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,880
Awesome record.

662
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Yeah.

663
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,480
So far this year, I think I mentioned this to you guys on a previous show.

664
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:54,400
To me, it's amazing what great two albums they've released with Firepower and with Invincible

665
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,800
Shield.

666
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,120
I can't think of another band this late in their career.

667
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,920
That is really done something this good.

668
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,880
And again, I think it comes back to I've said it for years.

669
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,680
I wanted them to work with Andy Sneep because they put out Angel of Retribution, which I

670
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,880
think was subpar outside of the song Judas Is Rising.

671
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Nostradamus is dreadful.

672
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Redeemer of Souls sounds like shit.

673
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,840
The guitar is terrible on that.

674
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,160
They're not reinventing the wheel with this album.

675
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,120
If you look at.

676
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:44,200
If you look at Angel of Retribution, the formula is very similar with this album because they

677
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:50,840
tried to do songs based on different eras that were popular with priests.

678
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:57,900
Like if I hear if you listen to Giants in the Sky off of this album reminds me of something

679
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:00,200
that could have been on stained glass.

680
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Why?

681
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:08,880
Because just the way that the songs are composed, the tempos, Scott Travis playing 64th notes

682
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,520
on the hi-hat, something that Les Binks would do a lot during that time period.

683
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:25,260
So it pulls me back to some of those periods of time where Angel of Retribution was similar.

684
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:29,520
But I think the songs weren't as authentic.

685
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,800
It was kind of, okay, we need a painkiller song.

686
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,240
So let's do a fast song and let's kind of make it sound like that.

687
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:42,040
Let's do another song that sounds like it could have been off of British steel.

688
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:50,240
And the big single off of that Revolution, they fucking ripped off Jane's Addiction.

689
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:54,720
I mean, the bass part and the intro to that is the same as the Mountain song by Jane's

690
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,720
Addiction.

691
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,720
It's identical.

692
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,480
To me, that was disheartening.

693
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,320
You said Metallica.

694
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:11,920
I would take this over 72 seasons and hardwired easily.

695
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Yes, it's that good.

696
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Yeah, I'm going to be listening to it a lot this year.

697
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,920
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.

698
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,720
It's going to be in a lot of people's year end polls, I would think.

699
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:31,120
It'll be in ours.

700
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:39,640
I think it's one of the most perfect representations of what classic heavy metal is with a modern

701
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,640
sound.

702
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Yeah, I mean, if you were going to give someone who didn't know a copy of something that would

703
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,980
teach them what heavy metal is, that would be an album to give them.

704
00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:57,640
And that's what Andy Sneap has done with every band, every big band that he's worked with.

705
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,680
He's done it with Accept.

706
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,920
He's done it with Testament.

707
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:12,320
He did it on United Abominations by Megadeth.

708
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,160
To me, this is why I want Iron Maiden to work with him.

709
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:24,040
This is why I want Metallica to work with him, because he's able to capture bands and

710
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,360
get them to kind of get them back on track.

711
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680
Nick Rascalinix is another guy that's like that.

712
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:37,000
I think with those last two Rush albums, he did the same thing where I think not that

713
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Rush was putting out shit albums, but they were putting out albums that had one great

714
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,120
song and the rest was just kind of there.

715
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,400
One with Snakes and Ladders and with the...

716
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,200
Don't remember what the name of the last one is.

717
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,200
I'm drawing a blank.

718
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920
I'm seeing the cover in my head.

719
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:04,200
But he did that with those last two Rush albums, where it seems like he's a fan first and foremost.

720
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,960
So he's able to get things out of the band where he knows, OK, all right, that sounds

721
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,400
cool, but know that you can give me more.

722
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,200
You can do this.

723
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:24,320
And I know with Megadeth, I remember that I was reading interviews and I think he told

724
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Dave to sit down and listen to the albums that inspired him to write those early Metallica

725
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:38,040
songs, that what inspired him to write Killing Is My Business and Peace Sells and stuff like

726
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,840
that to try to remind him of what originally got him hooked on doing stuff.

727
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,480
And I think that just makes so much sense.

728
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Man, how awesome that would be if Metallica did work with him.

729
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:58,520
I mean, if he could pull off what he's doing with Judas Priest with Metallica, they could

730
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,320
release an album that's on par with what they were doing in the 80s.

731
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Absolutely.

732
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Yeah, that would be awesome.

733
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,320
100 percent.

734
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,320
Because Metallica still got it in them.

735
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,840
You can tell it's just they just don't always.

736
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,720
It just doesn't always come out, though.

737
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:22,760
I think their biggest problem.

738
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,800
Is knowing when enough is enough.

739
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Yeah, is knowing when.

740
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:37,720
And I think with Death Magnetic to an extent, for example, I think Death Magnetic is better

741
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:38,720
than these last two albums.

742
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:44,740
I know a lot of people hate what was mixed, but I think it was them trying to find their

743
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:51,360
way back.

744
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,720
And there's too much excess on these last two albums.

745
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,300
There's too much riffage.

746
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,360
There's too much meandering.

747
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,640
There's too much and I get it because Injustice had that.

748
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,800
Master Puppets had that.

749
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Ride the Lightning had that to an extent.

750
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,400
I think Metallica have too many yes men around them.

751
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Yeah.

752
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,600
And back in the early days, all their ideas were fresh.

753
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:28,800
It's different writing an eight minute song when not only just your ideas, but that whole

754
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,880
those ideas for that genre were new.

755
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,320
So it was, you know, they had an empty slate to color.

756
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,180
Right now, trying to write an eight minute song after all those bands have been around

757
00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:43,620
for 40, 50 years.

758
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:46,600
It's hard to come up with something that interesting.

759
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Seventy two seasons reminds me of a Motorhead album.

760
00:50:54,200 --> 00:51:00,240
And I say that in the sense that the album isn't bad.

761
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:04,800
The album has a few tracks off of it that are good.

762
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,800
You're right.

763
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,800
Yeah.

764
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:13,560
But that don't come close to.

765
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:20,600
I mean, obviously not their bigger songs are the ones that were most emotionally connected

766
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,600
to.

767
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,600
I mean, I think that I can.

768
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:30,840
And I thought this when I started listening to that album again for my year end list,

769
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,120
it's good, but it gets to a point where it's like, OK, this is kind of more of what I've

770
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,280
already heard.

771
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,960
And I think that the last two albums, that's the biggest problem that they have.

772
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,440
I think that the best song Lux Eterna, I think is a great song, but it's short, gets straight

773
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,960
to the point.

774
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:57,720
It's a lot of kill them all because it has that diamond head type feel to it.

775
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,760
The song 72 seasons, really cool song.

776
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:09,320
It's a little longer, but it's kind of that it harkens back to something else.

777
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,760
There's just too much.

778
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,600
That's like a Motorhead album, like a lot of the later Motorhead albums.

779
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,440
They're good, but they don't kind of stick out to you.

780
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Where you say, OK, well, beyond this one song that's going to go into my Metallica playlist,

781
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,480
I'm probably not going to revisit this album.

782
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,680
And I feel that way about the last two albums.

783
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,940
I think Hardwired has four good songs off of it.

784
00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:46,880
They went into my playlist and the rest to me is very forgettable.

785
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:54,800
I would love for them to work again with an Andy Sneep that says to them, OK, that's great.

786
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,800
Sounds cool.

787
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,260
But I think we can take this to another level.

788
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:00,800
Let's try this.

789
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:13,680
And I think with Testament, they didn't work with him on the last album with creation.

790
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:26,760
What the hell is the full name of the album?

791
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,760
Let's see here.

792
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,760
Titans of creation.

793
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,760
Titan creation.

794
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,760
There you go.

795
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,800
OK.

796
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,040
He only mixed that album.

797
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,640
And I don't think it's as strong as as the other albums that he did with them because

798
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,040
he wasn't involved from a producing standpoint.

799
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:59,060
A lot of times, bands need that outside voice to put the brakes on to get them to revisit.

800
00:53:59,060 --> 00:54:04,920
So he did Formation of Damnation, Dark Roots of Earth and Brotherhood of the Snake.

801
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,880
I think all three of those albums are a lot better than Titans of Creation, in my opinion.

802
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,400
Titans isn't a bad album, but it doesn't reach the level that these other albums reach, in

803
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,400
my opinion.

804
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,280
And I think it has a lot to do with Andy Sneep being involved.

805
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,760
Yeah.

806
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,200
A good producer can really make an album.

807
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Yeah.

808
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,200
Yeah.

809
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,200
Agreed 100 percent.

810
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,200
Yeah, that dude is good.

811
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Yeah.

812
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:43,360
OK, so these next two topics are going to tie into one another.

813
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,360
Sully Erna.

814
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680
You guys know who Sully Erna is?

815
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Yeah.

816
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,680
OK.

817
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Sully Erna wants Aerosmith to induct Godsmack into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

818
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Well, don't they have to get voted in first?

819
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,360
Yes.

820
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:10,220
So my question to you guys is, should Godsmack be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

821
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:13,880
Is question number two, will Aerosmith still be alive when they get put in?

822
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:14,880
Oh, look at that.

823
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,880
Look at that.

824
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,240
Look at what you did there, Brad.

825
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:25,240
Will anybody from Aerosmith still be alive when they get elected into the Hall of Fame?

826
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,120
Will anyone in Godsmack be alive when they get inducted?

827
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,560
Yeah, those guys seem pretty healthy.

828
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,760
That's a fair question.

829
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,920
I mean, I respect what they do.

830
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,160
They're not somebody I choose to listen to.

831
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,120
I don't know that they check the boxes for me to go in Hall of Fame, maybe a Boston Hall

832
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,360
of Fame.

833
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,360
OK.

834
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,760
But not, of course, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is such a piece of crap.

835
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,960
I mean, yeah, I don't even want to get started on that.

836
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,960
Oh, you don't?

837
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:09,760
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm going to say if in my Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they don't make

838
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,760
a cut.

839
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,760
OK.

840
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,800
I'm not even playing them on yard metal.

841
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:23,040
I mean, I'll admit to you, I really like their first album, really like their third album

842
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:31,120
and really like their fourth album and everything else, I think, is kind of mediocre.

843
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:36,760
But Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I think that's kind of stretching it.

844
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:43,120
I think the interviewer was having fun with him, baiting him.

845
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,040
Then they just wait.

846
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,040
Did they just announce who?

847
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,760
Well, who made it in this year?

848
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,760
OK, so that's the next one.

849
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,760
The next topic?

850
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,760
Yeah.

851
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,760
OK.

852
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,760
I'll definitely have opinions.

853
00:56:53,760 --> 00:57:00,760
Ed, do you have any comment on the Sully Erna comment?

854
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:08,360
No, I've never listened to them besides listening to it to see what it sounds like and not caring

855
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,360
for it.

856
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,240
Of course, I know Sully, everybody knows him.

857
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,080
His name is in the news a lot.

858
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:21,280
So yeah, I couldn't I mean, no, not in my Rock and Roll Hall of Fame either.

859
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,920
I've listened to it not for a very, very long time.

860
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:25,920
Yeah.

861
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:34,440
OK, so there's various categories for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but I'm just going

862
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,680
to mention the overall list of who made it.

863
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:50,200
OK, so Suzanne DePass, Norman Whitfield, Deon Warwick, MC5.

864
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,880
She's a big rocker.

865
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,880
Yep.

866
00:57:52,880 --> 00:58:00,560
MC5, Jimmy Buffett, Big Mama Thornton.

867
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:06,120
Oh, John Mayall.

868
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:11,280
She believes that she belongs in the Cracker Barrel Hall of Fame.

869
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,280
Peter Frampton.

870
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,320
Cher.

871
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,320
She rocks.

872
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,320
You know what?

873
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,720
I'm OK with Cher going in.

874
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,920
OK, a Tribe Called Quest.

875
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Again, I couldn't tell you one of their songs.

876
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,160
Mary J. Belage.

877
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,160
She did cover.

878
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,520
She did cover Kashmir.

879
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,800
Who didn't?

880
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,440
Mary J. Belage with Steve Vai on guitar.

881
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:50,160
I forget the the actual the members of that who played on that are fairly well rock people.

882
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,960
But anyway, Dave Matthews Band.

883
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:05,080
Foreigner and Ozzy is a solo artist.

884
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:11,240
So for all of you European followers that don't give a damn about the Rock and Roll

885
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Hall of Fame.

886
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:23,360
Yes, Ozzy is in there twice before Iron Maiden or Motorhead before Scorpions, before UFO,

887
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,880
before Judas Priest.

888
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,760
No, Judas Priest is in.

889
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:32,160
OK, before Motorhead.

890
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,360
For Motley Crue.

891
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:43,360
Yeah, so, Brad, what are your comments on this lineup?

892
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,800
Is there anyone that you feel is deserving of being in there out of the people that I

893
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,800
mentioned?

894
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,800
Let's let's attack it from a positive standpoint.

895
00:59:50,800 --> 01:00:00,040
OK, I'm going to say and I'm not a huge foreigner fan, but I mean, their career, as many songs

896
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:05,960
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody on the street that wouldn't know a foreigner

897
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,960
song.

898
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,760
But you'd ask me, I mean, if you stood there in front of a grocery store and people walk

899
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,920
in, it's like, hey, what's your favorite foreigner song?

900
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,840
I would say easily 80 plus percent people would have an answer.

901
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,200
It's like, well, at least I know one or something.

902
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Tell me your favorite Mary J. Blige song.

903
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,200
I think it depends on the generation we're talking about.

904
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,560
Now, everybody coming in, you play it for you, play you.

905
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,960
You could I mean, I could probably pick five foreigner songs that you could play for everybody

906
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,680
coming in and they'd be like, yeah, I've heard that song.

907
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:42,760
Oh, yeah.

908
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,360
I don't think I could do that with Mary J. Blige.

909
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,360
No.

910
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,360
I don't.

911
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,040
I mean, I'm sure I've heard one of her songs, but I couldn't.

912
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,720
Yeah, I don't know.

913
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,400
I mean, I've heard Casimir, but that's not her song.

914
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,520
Right.

915
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:09,280
So yeah, I don't know what the what's the criteria here, people?

916
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,120
I mean, really, who pays the most?

917
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,120
Peter Frampton.

918
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,120
OK.

919
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:19,040
I mean, as far as I would put Humble Pie in there before I put Peter Frampton in there,

920
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:26,040
and he was a big part of that band for a good part of its existence.

921
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,000
But his solo career, other than that live album, what other album has he done or anything

922
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,000
else that's big?

923
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:39,760
That's all it takes because figure how many times Baby, I Love Your Way and Do You Feel

924
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:45,720
Like I Do have gotten covered or played on radio and just off of those two songs, he's

925
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,720
it.

926
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,720
Yep.

927
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,320
Yeah, everybody.

928
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:54,120
But I mean, this.

929
01:01:54,120 --> 01:02:01,680
Yeah, I and has nothing to do with his skill as a guitarist or as a singer or as a songwriter.

930
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,640
But I just don't think he's had that other than the one album, which wasn't even a studio

931
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,640
album.

932
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,160
He hasn't had that big impact.

933
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,160
I mean, or was it?

934
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,160
Was it?

935
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,160
You can argue it was.

936
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Live is what I'm getting at.

937
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,760
Yeah.

938
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,760
Or was it live?

939
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,760
Yeah, I kind of feel like it might have been.

940
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,760
I've listened.

941
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:31,960
I mean, OK, my freshman year in high school, it was a great time for me because I had people

942
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,320
just, you know, lending me albums.

943
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,600
There's a bunch of guys.

944
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,600
I ran cross country.

945
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,320
I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.

946
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,800
I ran cross country and a couple of the guys and they're huge music guys.

947
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,760
And that's that's how I got my first kiss, the first kiss album.

948
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,800
Somebody gave that to me, said, hey, you really need to listen to this.

949
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,000
And I took it home and dropped the needle on us and immediately in love and strutted

950
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,080
it like this is incredible.

951
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,000
But somebody gave me the Peter Frampton Frampton Comes Alive.

952
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,880
I said, yeah, you need to listen to this.

953
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,240
I went home and dropped the needle and I'm like, do I have to keep listening to this?

954
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,720
Do I have to?

955
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,720
And I'm fine.

956
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,720
This is long before I met you, Victor.

957
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,800
And I thought, well, I got to give it to Victor Ruiz test and listen to it twice.

958
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:17,800
No, I didn't.

959
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,800
I made it through once.

960
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,680
I'm pretty sure I listened to the whole thing.

961
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,680
I mean, it's a double album.

962
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,680
Right.

963
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,800
But I immediately gave that one back the next day.

964
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,840
Whereas that kiss album, I kept that until they said, hey, I want my album back.

965
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,000
So you didn't you didn't feel like they did.

966
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,000
I didn't feel like they did.

967
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,280
It was just it was like, yeah, if I want to hear that song, all I got to do is turn on

968
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,280
the radio.

969
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:45,520
You gave you gave it back and you said you don't feel like I do about this album.

970
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,160
No, I do not feel like you do.

971
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,160
Do you?

972
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,160
What do you love that album?

973
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,160
No.

974
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:58,800
OK, I never, I never understood the popularity.

975
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:04,280
I get it because I was too young to maybe be caught up in that.

976
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:10,040
But the talk box and the whole thing, it's like kind of annoyed me.

977
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:19,880
And to be honest, my favorite Peter Frampton song came out, I think, in the 80s because

978
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,480
it was heavier.

979
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,640
What the heck is?

980
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,880
I'll tell you right now what it is.

981
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,880
All right.

982
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,880
I need to hear this.

983
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:37,000
Yeah, I can't say that when I saw him live warming up for Journey years ago and we walked

984
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,840
out, we walked out and walked around the arena, even looking for something to eat or drink

985
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,760
or whatever, because we got bored after like the third or fourth song.

986
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,840
Like, oh, God, I can't sit here for an hour.

987
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,160
Breaking all the rules is my favorite Peter Frampton song.

988
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,160
All right.

989
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,160
Peter Frampton breaking all the rules.

990
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,160
I'm going to listen to that when we're done.

991
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,040
OK, yeah, there's like three guitar solos in that.

992
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:08,520
There's like a cool like drum breakdown and.

993
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:14,480
And I was not knowing it was him and my brother having it taped off the radio and playing

994
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,920
it all the time.

995
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,920
So it was on the radio.

996
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,920
Yeah.

997
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,920
Yeah.

998
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,920
This came out.

999
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,960
Well, that's actually the name of the album, too.

1000
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,360
Yeah, I believe so.

1001
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,480
It came out like 83.

1002
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,760
So it was around the time Billy Squire and stuff like that was popular.

1003
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,800
So I think he was trying to.

1004
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,840
Skew what he was doing in that direction.

1005
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,800
Yeah, it's the last song on the album is seven minutes long.

1006
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,800
They played that on the radio.

1007
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Wow.

1008
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,800
Yep.

1009
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Are these nice?

1010
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:46,960
See Friday on my mind is on here.

1011
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,080
That's going to be that's a cover.

1012
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,080
What year was this?

1013
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,080
I think this is 81.

1014
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,080
OK, 81.

1015
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,080
OK, so.

1016
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:05,040
For the the last news story here.

1017
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,040
OK.

1018
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:14,880
Actually for me, in about an hour, I will be able to hear Dogs of War, the new single

1019
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,920
by Motley Crue.

1020
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,720
Oh, I saw that was going to be released.

1021
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Yeah.

1022
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:29,200
The first thing that kind of jumps out at me is that what they're advertising looks

1023
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,800
like they've got Motley Crue avatars.

1024
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:37,800
Would it surprise anyone that they've yet again copied Kiss?

1025
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,800
I haven't seen that.

1026
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:39,800
That's hilarious.

1027
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,800
Yeah, totally.

1028
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:47,920
They're going to be ahead of Kiss if they're really doing a new song with avatars.

1029
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,760
There you go.

1030
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,560
That's fine.

1031
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,800
So and they've they've signed.

1032
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:59,240
Here's another good one that I saw this and I was thinking, wow, it's really did they

1033
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,520
sign in blood that this will be the last video they ever do?

1034
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,440
No, they didn't.

1035
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,400
OK, so they've signed to Big Machine Records.

1036
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,680
Who are they?

1037
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:16,560
OK, I will let you know, because Vince Neil has told Classic Rock it is a great match

1038
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,560
for us.

1039
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:23,400
He's good friends with Big Machine founder and CEO Scott Borchetta, who put together

1040
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,040
the Nashville Outlaws album back in 2014.

1041
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:34,560
His company just knows radio and how to get it out there, how to get the right people

1042
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,560
listening.

1043
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,480
OK, I have a question.

1044
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,480
Go ahead, Brad.

1045
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,680
Who's listening to radio?

1046
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,480
Correct.

1047
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:55,120
And when I read that, I was thinking, Vince, 1992 called.

1048
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:03,400
You haven't had a fucking song on the radio since.

1049
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,920
Was over 30 years ago.

1050
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,600
How?

1051
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:16,040
How in the fuck do a lot of these artists?

1052
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:25,080
Not understand that there isn't anyone in radio that is playing any of this new material.

1053
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:31,000
I see a lot of these lists and see so and so has made it.

1054
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,840
It's a heat seekers, the most played song on radio this week.

1055
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,800
And you obviously know that they paid for this coverage.

1056
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:48,440
And the song disappears from any list from any station within two to three weeks.

1057
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:55,000
So how does that actually help sell anything that they're doing?

1058
01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:01,400
And he's talking about the Nashville Outlaws album, which was released in 2014.

1059
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:08,800
That album didn't do shit in 2014 and 10 years later.

1060
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:15,200
He had to remind me what a hot steaming turd that was having country artists cover Motley

1061
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,200
Crew.

1062
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Oh, golly.

1063
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,120
Yeah.

1064
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Yeah.

1065
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:33,280
So I need a country artist covering Home Sweet Home, Kickstart My Heart, Dr. Feelgood,

1066
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:38,520
same old situation.

1067
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:48,320
It wasn't as if Garth Brooks came out and did Livewire or did Bastard or something along

1068
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,320
those lines.

1069
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,320
You're like, oh shit.

1070
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,000
They're actually going to cover one of these songs.

1071
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,240
And let's see what they do with this.

1072
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:09,320
Taylor Swift didn't come out and do Red Hot.

1073
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,920
It wasn't one of these things where you were like, wow, this is cool.

1074
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,720
They're covering kind of a risque song.

1075
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:22,680
Oh, no, they're covering a song that we've heard a million times on the radio.

1076
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,160
I was sick of the original to begin with.

1077
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,680
I don't want to hear someone covering it.

1078
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,680
No way.

1079
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,680
Oh, that's hilarious.

1080
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,160
All right.

1081
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:44,480
So let's all predict is the new song going to be good or bad?

1082
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:45,760
That's what I was driving at.

1083
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,080
That's what I want to ask you guys before we wrap this up.

1084
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,000
Brad, will the new Motley Crue song with John 5 officially?

1085
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,640
We've heard all the rumors that maybe he's played on other albums and written other songs

1086
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,640
and stuff like that.

1087
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,920
With him being in the band, will this song interest?

1088
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,200
Well, I think we'll probably all be interested to check it out.

1089
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,240
But, oh, yeah, definitely.

1090
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,560
I want to hear it.

1091
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,840
Will the song be good?

1092
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,080
Brad, what do you think?

1093
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,120
I'm going to say no.

1094
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,120
OK.

1095
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,520
Ed, what do you predict?

1096
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,520
I'm going to say yes, because of John 5.

1097
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,640
I love John 5, by the way.

1098
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,360
That's nothing against him.

1099
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,160
But I mean, listening to his solo albums, I mean, there's parts that are good, but as

1100
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,280
far as and I know he's written some really good songs for other people.

1101
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,280
But.

1102
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,200
But that depends on like.

1103
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,200
I don't know, man.

1104
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,000
That's a crapshoot, because I could see him coming in and saying, I'm going to write a

1105
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,680
song that sounds like Motley Crue, like good Motley Crue.

1106
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,920
It would probably be better than a Nicky Sixx song.

1107
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,120
He could do it, but I could see somebody else in the band screwing it up.

1108
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,600
So it depends, though, the song that we hear.

1109
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Like, I don't know if Nicky Sixx wrote it or not, but he seems to be a kind of writer

1110
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:13,400
that either writes something really good and catchy or it's just not interesting at all.

1111
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:19,080
So I mean, he's done something that's boring and even John 5 couldn't help it.

1112
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,760
Or maybe John 5 could help a boring song be somewhat listenable.

1113
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:29,360
But hopefully they both, you know, hit it good and wrote a good song and John 5 made

1114
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,360
it even better.

1115
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,360
All right.

1116
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,240
So, Victor, you're the tiebreaker here.

1117
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,960
I like what Ed is saying.

1118
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:43,560
I would, I mean, being a fan of what John 5 has done with Marilyn Manson and with Rob

1119
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:53,520
Zombie, I think that he's an explosive enough guitar player that if he gives us like a riff

1120
01:12:53,520 --> 01:13:02,320
out of left field or like some really like catchy riff and then gives us over the top

1121
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:07,680
solo, it'll make the song worthwhile.

1122
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:14,040
But if they just want him to be an employee within the band and just kind of do the same

1123
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,800
old same old, I think it'll be a huge letdown.

1124
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:24,720
So for those who are watching this, hopefully it's thousands of people.

1125
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,880
I want you all because if you haven't heard the song, it's out now that you're watching

1126
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:30,880
this.

1127
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,440
I want you to stop this and listen to the song and then come back and put down in the

1128
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:39,960
comments below whether you just whether you liked it or not.

1129
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:40,960
That's it.

1130
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,960
There you go.

1131
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,200
And then we'll tally them up.

1132
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,340
We'll see what you think.

1133
01:13:46,340 --> 01:13:48,240
We'll see who's who's right.

1134
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Who's right in this group.

1135
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Well, if you remember to come back to this on our next show.

1136
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,160
Yes.

1137
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,480
Yes, we will.

1138
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:57,560
Cool.

1139
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,680
So on that note, we will wrap this episode up.

1140
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,880
Brad, thank you for joining me.

1141
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:14,120
Ed, thank you for joining me and thank you everyone for joining us, either watching the

1142
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:20,720
replay or listening to the podcast version of this.

1143
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,880
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1144
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,160
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1145
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,240
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1146
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,480
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1147
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:34,240
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1148
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,720
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1149
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,140
And that is it, folks.

1150
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:42,880
Thank you once again for joining us for this episode, and we will see you next time right

1151
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,760
here on signals from Mars.

1152
01:14:45,760 --> 01:15:11,840
See you, folks.