1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Welcome everyone to episode 375 of signals from Mars. I'm your host Victor and for this episode I welcome back some of my patrons for another hour one episode where we discuss some hot button topic, buzz worthy, click bait, whatever you want to call it, headlines in hard rock and metal. Next! 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:57,000 I'm ready. Let's do it! 3 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Alright, so for this episode I do welcome back Dr. Poison Brad Doll, Mr. Yard Metal himself. Check out his site yardmetal.com. We have Ed the Shred Ferguson in Kentucky and we have Johan up in Sweden and they're on the show because they are patrons. 4 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:42,000 You can join us on Patreon for as little as $2 a month and then there's merch involved as well. Oh yeah, if you want the merch without joining Patreon you could buy the merch as well. 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But I do feel that we do have a cool tight knit family here that does like to come hear us discuss different hard rock and metal topics, likes to hear the interviews that I do, likes all the other things that I do have to offer. 8 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:53,000 So any way that you can support is greatly appreciated. Look, there's, I always say this, there's a million other things that you can check out. And it's just awesome that you're here. I really, really appreciate it. 9 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:12,000 And I know that there are some people that say that just to say the right thing so that their audience is happy or whatever. But I mean it, man. I'm an independent podcast. I've got whatever following I do have. I used to get hell bent on that stuff and get pissed off too. 10 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Why is this show have so many more people than than me? And you know, I can flip flop it with the drop of a hat, you know, let's be honest, but I'm trying to stay positive with all this stuff. And I do want to thank you guys for being here real quickly. 11 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I do want to thank the patrons that do follow and those that I didn't already mentioned. We have Sean Richmond in the UK, Chris Inczak from Despogeek Podcast, Tony Espin in Barcelona, Anthony Mackie, the great graphic designer who set up the logos that you see on any of the merch or anything related to the show. 12 00:03:49,000 --> 00:04:05,000 He came up with the original logo. And let's see, we have Metal Dan who joined us a few weeks ago. We have Jose in Connecticut. We have the metal dentist Gabriel. We have our Mike Jones, who was also on the show a few weeks back. 13 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:22,000 And Jeremy Weltman who will be recording with me tonight when we discuss the new releases for the month of February 2024. You can check that out live tonight at 5pm Eastern and I would say 6pm Pacific. 14 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 No, that's totally wrong. 15 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,000 5pm Eastern 3pm Pacific. 16 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:46,000 We'll figure it out for the rest of the US. What is that? 4pm Mountain and 5pm Central. For those in Europe, it's 11pm European Standard Time. 17 00:04:46,000 --> 00:05:04,000 And I believe in Australia, if you're on the East Coast, that is 8am. But anyway, join us, join us in the chat if nothing else. Some fun bands are there. And before running out of time here, I do want to also thank twisted Stephen Hoker and Mr. Stephen Saylor. 18 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:29,000 That is all folks. Let's jump on into the episode. Here we go. 19 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Welcome on and all to the February 23rd edition of signals for Mars. I am Victor. I am joined by Ed, by Johan and by Brad and Edgar Winterson says, wow, it's back. We've been back. We've been back for a few weeks, Edgar. 20 00:05:51,000 --> 00:06:13,000 You're here tonight. So real quickly, let's get some of the advertisement out of the way here. We have Brad styling and profiling in a Cavalier ish bucket hat. We like to call it the Brad hat. 21 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Aha. I'm telling you this this hat. I mean, just the hat. I mean, what really makes it, of course, is the beautiful logo here on the front. But the hat is really nice. I mean, really nice. Yeah, I've had many, many compliments about this hat. So you, you won't regret buying one of these other than if you like somebody who doesn't want to be. 22 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:57,000 I don't want people to notice me in a crowd, then don't get one of these. But hey, you don't mind that. Get one. All right. I'm looking forward to wearing this to every show I go to. And and yeah, any kind of musical thing that I go to M3 maybe. Oh, for sure. 23 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:13,000 For sure. This will be at M3. Yeah, we will definitely be rocking this at M3. We'll see. We'll see how many pictures Brad takes with his bucket hat with Mark Mark Striegel. Maybe. Well, yes. Let's see if he's 24 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Or Emily, maybe Emily will come out. Yeah. If you're in the colder part of the world. You also have a beanie hat. I think that might be my next purchase. Okay. We don't have Jeremy here this week, but we do have the Jeremy cap, which he enjoys wearing. 25 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 All right. We also have the 26 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:58,000 stylish t shirt. Oh, which I have. It's beautiful. We have the hoodie. 27 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,000 We have the windbreaker jacket. 28 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:20,000 And we have a bomber jacket. So, you know, is go to signals from ours.com click on March and help support the show at the same time. So very cool. 29 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Look at that. Edgar says I thought someone had died. Well, I'm sure there have been people that have died between the last time you've been in the chat and the show's gone on. 30 00:08:34,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Okay, you saw the hoodie at the Paris Fashion Week doesn't surprise me Paris Rome Milan. It's been all over the place. Speaking of being all over the place. We've got some interesting topics to touch upon probably the biggest out of all, which, which I'm sure Ed would like to discuss is 31 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,000 the Slayer shocking return from retirement. 32 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,000 And I've been hearing all types of different things this week. 33 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:18,000 And this isn't a tour, it's only going to be select dates. 34 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 And add instantly what's what's your thought on this. 35 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I immediately felt a jolt of excitement in my chest when I first heard the news. 36 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:54,000 My first thought was just wait a couple of days because as soon as those kind of stories hit all the, you know, pranksters come out with their, their means and their new headlines in addition to the story that you heard. 37 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 So you're not sure what to think yet. 38 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:09,000 And sure enough, that's what happened. I was seeing all kinds of funny things that weren't true that supposedly, you know, one big one was Kerry King, supposedly saying that he didn't know anything about this. 39 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Did you see that one going around. Yeah, yeah, when you see that I just thought to wait a couple of but my first thought was it would just be a, you know, a show or two, which, you know that that makes sense, you know, for any band to do. 40 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I mean anyone that retires sometimes it'll still do do what they do a little bit after retirement. 41 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 It's not, you know, full capacity. 42 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And you know, and with some of these older bands like Slayer. 43 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:50,000 I kind of prefer it to be that way to where, you know, they're at a point if they're not especially if they're not making music and they're just going to play the same hit songs all the time. 44 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Right, it'd be better just to see him every once in a while at a festival or something. 45 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Now, before knowing exactly what was going on. 46 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Like you were commenting this doesn't make sense it wasn't making sense because you have Kerry getting ready to put out a record. Yeah, one that he said that has some leftover Slayer riffs and songs on it. 47 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:29,000 So, you know the headlines are making it almost sound like Slayer got back together, and going to be regularly touring. It was hard to tell exactly what story they were trying to promote there, but 48 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 you know that's obviously not what's happening. 49 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,000 And, you know, if they're not 50 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,000 putting out new music I'm not really even that interested. 51 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,000 You know, that show that they're probably going to do. 52 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:53,000 I don't know it's, you know, I guess, I wish all of these bands instead of saying, we're retiring. 53 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Give a different message that hey we're getting old we may not do this much longer we don't know if we'll be back you know we might play again if we can. 54 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:09,000 But it kind of feels like they're, they're always playing with our emotions when it comes to the retirement stories. 55 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:19,000 I think they need to start sending out a little different message about, you know, because after a lot of people retire for a few years and they get itching to get back out and do it again. 56 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:28,000 You know, kind of get bored you especially when it comes to the rock and metal you start to miss it after a while and start Jones in to get back in there. 57 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:43,000 And then you sit or you start to realize that you've got bills to pay. 58 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Yeah, it probably makes more sense for these bands to say hey we're going to go on hiatus. 59 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Yeah, we don't know if we're coming back. 60 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:06,000 If we do come back, you've seen the last of what we're going to do. If we do come back. You know we're going to try to give you the best of what we can offer that time but you know we're done. 61 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:18,000 And then, three, four years later, they come back. Why because they're playing five festival dates at the moment, and they're going to make a shitload of money off of it. 62 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,000 And the biggest problem is the one thing that you touched upon to me. 63 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Carrie releases the video announces the band. They're talking up the album napalm is, you know, probably among one of their bigger acts. 64 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:46,000 And all of a sudden this happens which means that one is he can have time to promote this album. 65 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:55,000 You know, is he going to promote those shows over this album you know what's legally what does it say. 66 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Does this mean that his solo band is also going to play those same festival. 67 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Those same festivals, you know there's, there's a bunch of different kind of things that still need to be answered. Basically, it'll be an interesting story to see play out did you say five shows already I've only heard of two. 68 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Yeah, this afternoon I read that there was five. 69 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Yeah. 70 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I, you know, it's not like I wouldn't want to hear Slayer, it's one of my favorite bands but yeah I just don't want any of these bands playing with my emotions too much by, you know, making us feel like this is the last time we'll see you again. 71 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Yeah, and then when really they're going to be back maybe after taking a good rest. 72 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Right. 73 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Johan what do you think about this whole Slayer Union. 74 00:14:52,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Well, I have seen Slayer a couple of times, or a lot of times since I think it was 1994. The first time I saw Slayer. 75 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,000 And I saw them at that time. 76 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:23,000 And it, you know, there were a lot of festivals in Europe Slayer, and they were, you know, they were good, but not great. 77 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 They played their set. 78 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:36,000 It was Slayer, and it was, you know, Slayer, but the last time I saw Slayer on the farewell tour at Sweden Rock. 79 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 They were actually great. 80 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:51,000 And it doesn't have to anything to do with the farewell tour. I don't think they sounded great and it was something about them that they have matured. 81 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:59,000 And I thought that this is not the time for them to end. 82 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:10,000 I really can welcome this comeback or reunion, whatever, but they were not ready to end. 83 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 That's my opinion. 84 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Because the maturity of the sound and the live performance were, you know, before, they were more like, you know, not a smaller band, but they were absolutely not a smaller band, but they were not, you know, perhaps like a ice hall band at the most. 85 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Right. 86 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:54,000 But the last time I saw them on the farewell tour, they were an arena stage band, and they were, you know, they were playing hits and they were playing new songs. 87 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 It was something else. They were really good. 88 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:04,000 So I think this is a good thing and I hope they continue. 89 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Not the major tour, but, you know, do if they go to play, you know, Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, don't go around, play big shows. 90 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 I don't care. 91 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 They're good. 92 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Okay. 93 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Have they confirmed the lineup? Is it the last lineup that went out with them or? 94 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000 That's what they say. 95 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Yeah. 96 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Okay, so I surely hope for Gary Holt because. 97 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 With Gary and Paul. 98 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Yeah. 99 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Okay. 100 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:48,000 You know, you got to think too, when it comes to these bands, like with Slayer, I think that my impression is a lot of the retirement thing was driven by Tom. 101 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 Right. 102 00:17:49,000 --> 00:18:06,000 And I think that makes sense because think of how exhausting his job must be, especially as you're getting into your 60s and beyond, because he's not just playing he's having to not just not just be a vocalist but it's a loud vocalist he's having to scream and 103 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,000 you know big vocals in those songs the whole time. You got to imagine if you're doing that night after night. 104 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,000 After a while, it would wear you down to the point where you feel like you have to stop. 105 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And to, you know, if someone like Tom's voice is not sounding good, I don't want to hear them. 106 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Right. 107 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:43,000 So, I don't I don't know if I know that touring can be hard on any old body, but I imagine especially for vocalists. It could be even more, you know, hard on yourself and make you feel like you need to retire, but then after you've rested a while you and you're feeling 108 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:51,000 strong again you want to get back out there and have fun again. 109 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Had your saying we might be back one day doesn't sell magazines. 110 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 True. 111 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:14,000 I mean, yeah, we can now add Slayer to the list of Motley Crue kiss the who the Rolling Stones. 112 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:21,000 You know how many bands, the purple, you know said they were going away and they eventually came back. 113 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 One, one way or another. 114 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:31,000 This was the most embarrassing though because they did the blood promise thing. Remember that? 115 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They were cutting themselves to show how sincere they were that this would never be done. 116 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Rules were made to be broken. 117 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Crew. 118 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Yeah, that's just weird. 119 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Yeah. 120 00:19:50,000 --> 00:20:03,000 They're the, as the late Bob now banding would say they they are the superhero band that fed into their own stories so 121 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:15,000 what band do you guys think is next. I mean what band have we, you know, has kind of gone away that you guys think would 122 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,000 would would be most possible for them to to jump back into the arena. 123 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:28,000 We've we've mentioned a bunch of bands already. I mean, could you guys see honestly I mean kiss just went away. 124 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Could we see kiss come back in some capacity. 125 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 There's talk of Ozzy doing two shows. 126 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:51,000 After doing these two shows does he, you know, somehow or another, decide that two shows isn't enough and start, you know, maybe not do a full blown tour but play selective dates like Slayers doing. 127 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Brad, what do you think what what band is most likely to be next in line. 128 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Ooh, that sounds like a deal thing there. 129 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Oh, that'd be the last in line. Okay. 130 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:18,000 That's a really tough question I'm scanning through the yard metal playlist for the next couple of hours. And I'm not seeing any band who has retired and stayed retired everybody is. 131 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,000 I mean even oh my gosh yeah some of these people. 132 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Yeah, I mean, you could talk about like bands getting back together with the some of the people the important people that were part of it. 133 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:46,000 But as far as a band actually coming out of retirement, I can't think of anybody. I mean, Ozzy hasn't officially retired. I mean he's done that several times, but this time he's not retired you just can't can't do it. 134 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Right. 135 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:55,000 But yeah, I'm. Holy crap. I mean yeah I think at this point it's reunion type stuff. 136 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Other than bands that there's just no even bands that everybody's dead. They're still playing. 137 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Right, I hope kiss doesn't come back okay I think it's with me on this. That was a good way to end their career that that final show. 138 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Yeah, it's time to stop. 139 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Yeah, you can see that they were I mean they were really holding tight to get through that thing. And it's like yeah, this is a really good time to stop boys. 140 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 I hope I hope they don't come back. 141 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000 So that's, that's really the only band I can, I can think of here. 142 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,000 That is retired currently retired. 143 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Johan which band that is currently retired, most likely in your opinion to come back. 144 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Oh, 145 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000 there's one band who likes a lot. 146 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Yeah, yeah. 147 00:22:52,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I can sincerely hope that rush, perhaps does one or two or three shows with a drummer like partner, my partner or so but 148 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:19,000 other than that I really can't think of it. I, when Brad was speaking with, I was thinking a lot, you know, can I come up with something. 149 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 No, I can't. 150 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:35,000 But I was thinking about bands that are still great, but are old, like, you see, a band like Europe here in Sweden. 151 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:41,000 They do tours, and I'm going to see them in this in May. 152 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:56,000 And they I mean, they draw full arenas, and not because of the old songs, because to the new songs and John Norum just turned 60, the guitarists so I mean, 153 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 we can still be happy for the bands that still run, and, you know, 154 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,000 don't they have a new album coming out this year. Yeah, yeah. 155 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:13,000 John Norm's last album was really good. I thought, yeah, yeah, I need to listen to that one again. 156 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 So, 157 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:26,000 even though you're old, it doesn't have to be bad, as you know, we all have discussed about Judas Priest, so it's. 158 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,000 How about Fates Warning, I mean, they haven't really retired this is everybody's doing side projects. 159 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Yeah, Ray. 160 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I always get his last name wrong. Alder. Alder. Okay. I always say Adler, and I knew it wasn't right. 161 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:54,000 He said that Jim Mathias has no desire in writing more Fates Warning music. 162 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Really? Okay. 163 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Well, that could change. 164 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Brad, Brad, excuse me, Victor here. What's your opinion about Slayer? 165 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Oh, thanks for asking. 166 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,000 You know, full disclosure, I've never seen Slayer live. 167 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,000 I mean, obviously their legacy is huge. 168 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,000 And, you know, part of the big four, the whole thing. 169 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I don't begrudge them playing again. I know they said they retired and 170 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,000 I don't know if it was like you guys talked about Tom and his physical ability and all that. 171 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 And I don't know the reason for them getting back together. 172 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:44,000 I would guess that probably there was a phone call that said, Hey, you know, we have this offer on the table 173 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,000 for this kind of money for you guys to get back together and do a few more shows. Will you do it? 174 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 I think that's probably what happened. 175 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:59,000 I would like to think that Tom, you know, after like Ed has talked about after a couple of years of not doing it, 176 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000 it'd be like, you know, Doug, I really want to get back out there and do it again. 177 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,000 I mean, I'd like to think that these guys really want to play. 178 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 There's nothing worse than seeing a band that doesn't want to be there playing. 179 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Yeah, that's the worst. 180 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,000 I've seen that on several occasions already. 181 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Me too. Me too. Yeah. Van Halen at Monsters of Rock in Spokane. 182 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Eddie didn't want to play. 183 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,000 And him and Sammy kind of got in a fight on stage because Eddie's just like, Hey, let's go back to the hotel. 184 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Like, no, no, look, we got like 80,000 people here. 185 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 What the hell? 186 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000 It was the most. Yeah, I became a real Eddie hater at that point. 187 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 But then the next tour, they were really good. 188 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 So and I understand he was having some issues. 189 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 So I'll give him a pass. 190 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000 There you go. And you're saying Brad still has his seasons in the abyss. 191 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Blood pack CD. 192 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,000 That's true. That's true. 193 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Oh, there was a band I was in for actually quite a while and one of our guitar players, huge Slayer fan, like huge. 194 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 And he would always bring a Slayer song to us to play and play it for us. 195 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 And I'd be like, yeah, I'll give it a go. 196 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,000 And the other guys would be like, no, I'm not playing this. 197 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000 A little bit, a little bit too much for them, I guess. 198 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:36,000 It's intense music, man. You can't you can you imagine being like a Slayer tribute band and like being awful? 199 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 I guess I guess I could imagine that. 200 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Yeah, it's probably really to be awful doing that. 201 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Probably fairly easy. 202 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Yeah, I got my band in the 80s. 203 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:58,000 I think it was like I was probably in the early 90s when we were playing a club and the owner was giving us a chance to headline. 204 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 At this point, we've just been warming up for people. 205 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 He's like, I really want you guys to headline. 206 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 But he says the smart move is to bring in another opening act so you don't have to do three sets. 207 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:15,000 So like, OK, and they asked around and some guy recommended these guys to us as two brothers. 208 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 And they were a Metallica tribute band. 209 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:25,000 And they both play guitar and like Metallica, there was no bass, no drums, no drums. 210 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000 I actually got a little video of this, too. 211 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 I'll have to see if I can tweeze that out and send it to you guys. 212 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 It's hilarious. 213 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 But yeah, they had like a little drum machine that you triggered by your foot. 214 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,000 And it was it was it was pretty bad. 215 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,000 It was. Well, luckily, people people stuck around for us. 216 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:53,000 So that was good. That's that's why I say that I'm pretty sure that most of the bands, most of the Slayer tribute bands that were out there. 217 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000 I'm not saying that there weren't ones that were good, but I'm. 218 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Wagering that the majority probably were not good. 219 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Yeah, we had a Pantera tribute band warm up for us once, and they were actually pretty good. 220 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000 They were pretty legit. Yeah. 221 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,000 The thing is, though, Pantera's. 222 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,000 I would think is easier, especially for the drummer. 223 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Because it's more groove orientated, there isn't the constant double bass. 224 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:37,000 The double bass is just kind of an added ingredient in some of the songs, whereas. 225 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:48,000 A lot of the stuff that Slayer puts out, or at least a lot of the more recognizable stuff has Dave Lombardo doing double bass all over the place. 226 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 So that's how many guys can play that. 227 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 I mean, it's probably just a handful of guys that can play that. 228 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,000 I mean, there's a lot of people that can do it nowadays because of Dave's influence. 229 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:10,000 The problem is that a lot of people don't realize that Dave has a specific feel and power to his playing. 230 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,000 He attributes a lot of that to the fact that he is Cuban. 231 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:22,000 So he borrows a lot from other Latin styles of music. 232 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,000 But I've also seen him playing like Iron Maiden covers and Led Zeppelin covers and Kiss covers. 233 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,000 And if you don't think about it, it sounds really cool. 234 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 It's like, wow, this guy's different. 235 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,000 But at the same time, he's playing the same stuff. 236 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:48,000 And then when you realize that Slum Bardo, it's a lot of the same parts, but played in a way more powerful way. 237 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000 He eats the shit out of the stuff that he's playing. 238 00:30:52,000 --> 00:31:01,000 He's just got he's got a feel to his playing where it sounds like he's a lumberjack chopping down trees. 239 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Basically, he takes like with the Zeppelin stuff, he takes the bottom stuff, plays it from note for note the same. 240 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:20,000 But then he's playing it where he's just hitting the drums so much more aggressively that that's just his the feel to his playing. 241 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:29,000 So and it's no matter how fast he plays, he doesn't sound like a machine like so many other people can. 242 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 You still feel the character in it no matter how fast. 243 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Right. And that's what I was going to say. 244 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:42,000 That's the one thing to not only him, but a lot of the kind of OG players from that era. 245 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Like you can't mistake them for a drum machine, you know, for as much shit as Lars gets, for example. 246 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:59,000 You listen to a lot of those early albums and he's fucking breaking you ground on a lot of those albums. 247 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,000 You know, a lot of people, you know, use revisionist history and don't realize it. 248 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:13,000 But when those albums came out, when those first four albums came out, 249 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Lars was getting all these drummers of the year awards and, you know, this and that award. 250 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,000 And it was because those were landmark albums and that included his playing. 251 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Is Lars the best drummer even out of the big four? 252 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000 I don't think so. I don't even think it's close. 253 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Is he one of the most important musicians out of the big four? 254 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:45,000 You could possibly argue that he may be the most important just because of the fact that, you know, 255 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,000 he's behind essentially every Metallica song that's ever been released except for two. 256 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:58,000 You know, whether he's written the songs directly, I think just based on his input 257 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:05,000 and just his overall know-how of what he's looking for in music, 258 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,000 I think that's an important piece that maybe some of the other drummers don't have. 259 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,000 I mean, I think Lombardo has that to an extent and I think Charlie Bonante has that even more so 260 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000 because he's the main, you know, composer in Anthrax. 261 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,000 So anyway, kind of getting sidetracked here. 262 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:33,000 But my last question, which Johan kind of already answered for himself is, 263 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 and we've answered this a bunch of times, 264 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000 but can you think of any band that you'd like to see get back together that isn't together now? 265 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,000 And maybe they are together now, but you'd like to see a specific formation. 266 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:56,000 I mean, in that case for me, I'd love to see Anthrax give it one more go with John Bush. 267 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 So, Brad, how about you? 268 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:08,000 What band would you like to see get back together or, you know, bring back an old formation that really kind of speaks to you? 269 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:14,000 I mean, is there a Blue Oyster Cult that you'd like to see? 270 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Actually, yeah, Blue Oyster Cult. 271 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000 I mean, one of the guys, the original guys is dead, so that can't happen. 272 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:29,000 But the two Bouchard brothers, Albert did the thing that they most, well, that they're releasing now, 273 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 the concerts where they did the first three albums. 274 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000 He participated in all of those on the album part of it. 275 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 He didn't do the other music part, the second half of the show. 276 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 But he's been back in the camp. 277 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 And then now they're releasing this album. 278 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:51,000 I don't think it's coming up this month of old tracks that were never released, never finished, 279 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,000 that they kind of dug out on cassettes and stuff and have put together. 280 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:01,000 You know, I think we have the Beatles to blame for this. 281 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 And yeah, you put one of them up on our page. 282 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 And yeah, it's not like it's a great song or anything. 283 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:16,000 But it's sung by the original bass player who has not done anything with them in probably 40 years, 284 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 I'm guessing 30, 40 years. 285 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:29,000 And it would be great to see them do something one more time with the two brothers on stage with them doing their songs. 286 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000 That would be really, really cool. 287 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000 I don't know whether that'll happen, though, but it'd be cool. 288 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Because yeah, those guys, every time I see them, it's like, boy, how much longer are they going to be able to keep doing this? 289 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Right. I know they'll do it till they die. 290 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000 But I guess that's really the answer when they when they die. 291 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 OK. And I'd love to see that. 292 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000 I would really love to see that. OK. 293 00:35:50,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Ed, how about for you? Is there any band or you'd like to see get back together again or any formation of a specific band that you'd like to see get back together? 294 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,000 I would like Anthrax with Dan Spitz. OK. 295 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Maybe if all the alive members from RAP could get along. 296 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Ooh, that's a good one. 297 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Mark Neely with Stephen Piercy, maybe. 298 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:22,000 And Bobby Udo with Accept would be nice. 299 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Yeah, that ain't going to happen. But yeah, that would be nice. 300 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Yeah, these are in my dreams. 301 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:34,000 But you mentioned Lombardo. I would buy a ticket to go see that show. 302 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000 What did you say, Brad? 303 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:44,000 You mentioning RAP makes me think of a couple of bands from that era who aren't really back together. 304 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Still, I've done shows from time to time like Poison is one of them. 305 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Yeah. Will they? Will those guys ever get together and tour again? 306 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,000 I don't know. I mean, the singer's singer gets out there and does this thing just like RAP. 307 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,000 And the both of them are, I think, going to be in M3. 308 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,000 And the other one is Cinderella. Will Cinderella ever? 309 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Of course, they're missing a guitar player now because he died. 310 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 So yeah. But will they ever? 311 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Will Tom Kiefer ever put together what he would call Cinderella and go out there? 312 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,000 And I know a lot of people have cried for those bands to be out there doing their thing. 313 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Rat and I'd say those big three rat poison Cinderella. Well, that'd be a great tour, wouldn't it? 314 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Yeah, because I feel like Stephen can still pretty well sing. 315 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,000 It's not as bad as trying to listen to Don Dock and do his thing. 316 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Right. You're right. I mean, you know, you could argue that he sings just as well as he did back in 1984, 317 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,000 which really wasn't that great back then. Yeah. 318 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000 He made it easy on himself. He was he never really like saying anything. 319 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 It's like, holy crap. Wow. That's really tough to sing. 320 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,000 So although it is tough to sound like him, I've heard plenty of people cover their music. 321 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,000 And he's got a very unique voice. Yes, he does. You recognize him right away. 322 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Yep. Oh, wait. Kicks retired. Oh, where's my old man? We need him. 323 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Yeah. Kicks actually retired last year. 324 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:21,000 And I would love to see them get together and play again. So, hey, I found somebody that actually retired. 325 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Victor, look at that. Kicks. 326 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:33,000 They retired and last show ever last year. 327 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 But I'd like to see them come back. We'll see if they do. 328 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000 OK. Johan, you mentioned the guys from Rush. 329 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Is there any other band that you'd like to see get back together? 330 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Sure. Queen's Strike. OK. 331 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Original original line up. That would be awesome to see. 332 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Chris Garmore again with Jeff Tate and the guys. 333 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Not impossible. They were live. So that could happen. 334 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 As Ed were saying, Rat. 335 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Absolutely. And one of my favorite eras of Kiss is, you know, the Unmasked tour. 336 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:28,000 The Unmasked. Now, not the Unmasked tour, but the years where there were not very make up. 337 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Yeah. I think that those records were those records are my favorites, not the world's favorite. 338 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000 But that's no. Closest to my heart to see, you know, animalize, 339 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:53,000 lick it up asylum again live with Bruce with Bruce Colick on guitar. 340 00:39:53,000 --> 00:40:00,000 That would be awesome. That wouldn't happen. But yeah, that would be great. 341 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000 But you're right. It is possible. I mean, all those guys still alive. 342 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Well, no, not Eric Carr. Yeah, no. 343 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:21,000 But even Queen's Strike, why not? Queen's Strike would be amazing if they if they could somehow get those five guys together. 344 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,000 That would be that would be amazing. I yeah, I'm with you on this one. 345 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:33,000 You know, I would I would go see that. Yeah. I mean, to see Rach for order and 346 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:47,000 a warning. Yeah. And yeah, you know, the records, all the records, you know, to see something about the Empire. 347 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Yeah. That would be amazing. 348 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Oh, here's one more nonmetal Pink Floyd with Waters and Gilmore. 349 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:06,000 They got here. We know it's not going to happen. We're dreaming. 350 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,000 And Mason, he's gone. He died. Right. Yeah. Yeah. 351 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Yeah. The other guys. I'd be neat to see. They did it to that show. 352 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,000 They were able to get back on stage for what? Five songs. And then they. 353 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,000 OK, so it's right that died right. 354 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000 Good job, Edgar. 355 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Robert Wright, Richard Wright. I don't know. I'm not a big Pink Floyd guy. 356 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000 Something with an R. 357 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:52,000 In any event, yeah, they were Richard, see, and it was Richard or Robert. 358 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:00,000 They they got back together. They and they went back to bickering just like they had done before. 359 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000 They, you know, kind of went their own ways. 360 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:14,000 And man, I have to say that I know that there are some people that really loved Roger Waters reinterpretation of Dark Side of the Moon. 361 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:27,000 I thought it was terrible. It was one of the worst things I've ever heard, because it's Roger Waters doing a AARSM or whatever it's called. 362 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000 It's it's him whispering the fucking lyrics to all these songs. 363 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000 So it's trying to think it's dark side of the moon. 364 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:44,000 So I've not heard that yet. Now I don't think I'm not last year. 365 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:51,000 No, it's not. It's not BDSM. 366 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,000 It's him whispering the the lyrics. It is. It is not good. 367 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:07,000 It's like Don Dock and he's no Don Dock and actually sounds better than than than this. It is really. 368 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Somebody told me to play it. I'm making a list of people that sound that Don Dock and sounds better. 369 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,000 We got one. There you go. 370 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:29,000 So, yeah, and it's a shame because I look, I said that I'm not a huge Pink Floyd guy, but I've played the wall a lot in my life. 371 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,000 I've played Wish You Were Here quite a bit, played Animals quite a bit. 372 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Dark Side of the Moon, I could either take it or leave it. 373 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000 I mean, there really isn't much beyond those albums that I've listened to a lot. 374 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:49,000 But so I can't really profess to being a huge fan of theirs. So. 375 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000 All right. We talked about this a little bit. 376 00:43:53,000 --> 00:44:00,000 Ed was kind of the catalyst. ACDC reissuing for the 50th anniversary. 377 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Albums. Their albums on gold vinyl. 378 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Yeah, just bought all the 180 grams. Now I got to start all over with gold. 379 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,000 ACDC. I'm just kidding, of course. I'm not going to buy all of that. 380 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:25,000 But I don't really care much for. I told you before, I like black vinyl. That's my favorite. Right. 381 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:35,000 But I don't know. Still, sometimes it's cool to have some of your favorite records like Let There Be Rock. If I had it on different versions, I would enjoy having that my collection. 382 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,000 But did you notice Let There Be Rock is not on the list? 383 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,000 Huh. I didn't I didn't see the list because I've just seen a few ads. 384 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,000 It pretty much all the important ones are, but not that one. 385 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:58,000 OK. What's up with that, Edgar? Can you tell me? 386 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,000 There's a clever, clever one, isn't he? Yes, he is. 387 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Of course, I'm assuming it's a. 388 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:14,000 Let's see ACDC gold. Reissues. 389 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,000 So I was black and gold, too, I think. 390 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,000 So maybe this is my chance to buy ACDC stuff. 391 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000 I've got a copy of Back in Black for you when I meet you. 392 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,000 I'm keeping it here for you. Got your name on it. 393 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:56,000 Oh, thank you. So it's nine LPs. It's high voltage. So March 15th, high voltage, 30 deeds, powerage, Highway to Hell, Back in Black for those about to rock, Who Made Who, Razor's Edge and the live the double LP live comes out. 394 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:05,000 So I'm guessing they're just sticking to the albums that are sold the most, I guess, to do this. 395 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Yeah. Strange. 396 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:16,000 Oh, so you could buy them individually or all together, it says. 397 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:26,000 Well, see now, buy them all together. If I'm going to buy all of those, I would need the whole discography. I mean, I would have these ones that aren't there. 398 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,000 I don't know if I can do that either. And the entire thing. 399 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Yeah. Yeah. 400 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,000 Yeah. The other thing, too, is that. 401 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,000 Oh, and they're exclusive to Walmart in the US. 402 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,000 Oh, well, sorry, Johan. 403 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:56,000 No, in the US, in Europe, I've seen I don't know how many merchants that have sent me already, you know, to preorder. 404 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,000 And I've seen it from several stores. 405 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:12,000 So I'm wondering if the if the colored vinyl, like it's back in Black and Highway to Hell that they're doing it for. 406 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:21,000 I'm wondering if those are going to be exclusive to specific stores. 407 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:27,000 It's a great question. 408 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Hmm. So, Ed, that's your deal breaker. They aren't all being released. So. 409 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:42,000 Yeah, I wouldn't want to buy a box set of a band that doesn't have all everything included. 410 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:51,000 That sounds weird for somebody who's collecting, you know, like that, if you're spending extra money to collect records like that. 411 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,000 But yeah. 412 00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:03,000 And and and maybe the appeal for some people is that that it is a odd. 413 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:16,000 An odd collection. Yeah, that would be the one thing is if they just do it this one time, it'll be something that might be worth a bit in the future. 414 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Could be. 415 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Let's see. So the last thing that I have here on my list to discuss the new Judas Priest track, the serpent and the king, which I think Brad called the serpent and Elvis. 416 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Correct. 417 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:53,000 My initial opinion of this is I think Anthony Mackie was was right in that it sounds like a track that could have been on 72 seasons by Metallica. 418 00:48:53,000 --> 00:49:01,000 Just the way that the riff is just the way that the song structured. It's kind of reminiscent of that. 419 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Then again, 72 seasons is very reminiscent of New Wave of British heavy metal music. 420 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:16,000 So that isn't steering that far away from from what Priest is about. 421 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Then again, it wouldn't surprise me that Priest would be trying to copy Metallica because they've copied several other bands in the past. 422 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:33,000 So Brad, the serpent and Elvis, what do you think? 423 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,000 I got kicked ass. 424 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,000 I think my only beef about it is Rob doing his what he calls his painkiller voice. 425 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:49,000 He doesn't do it for the whole song. Thank goodness. I mean, to me, that kind of thing. 426 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:54,000 It's kind of like the growling thing. It needs to be used in spots. 427 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:03,000 You know, pick your spots where you kind of go there and hit like a line like that, not seeing the whole verse. 428 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000 I think I was close. 429 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000 You sing the whole verse like that. 430 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000 And it's like, OK, yeah, you can still do it. 431 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,000 That's the thing. We listened to it in the car and Shelley's like, holy crap, how old is he again? 432 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000 He's like, he can still sing like that. 433 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:26,000 Well, the fact that you call it singing is pretty cool. 434 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000 But I love the song. I really want to hear this album. 435 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:37,000 I'm excited. I'm I'm I'm going to enjoy it. 436 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,000 And if this is what the third song off of the album, fourth song, your song. 437 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000 The previous I think. Let me think about this. Yeah, these four songs. 438 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:58,000 It's interesting. With with Firepower, they only released three and they're saying that this album is stronger than Firepower. 439 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Well, of course, they say, well, you know, we got a new album coming out. 440 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:09,000 It's not as good as the last one. I've always said that there's never going to be a band that's going to come out and say, yeah, 441 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,000 our latest album was dog shit. You know, don't don't buy. 442 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:22,000 I wish I could remember who it was. I was reading something or listening to some band, kind of big band. 443 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000 And they're talking about one of the albums and said, oh, yeah, that we we hate that album. 444 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,000 It's like, well, wait a second. Weren't you guys there when it was being recorded? 445 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Weren't you guys listening to this? Didn't you guys write this? 446 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000 It was at some point, could you just say, hey, we're not doing this. We don't like it. 447 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:44,000 But no, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, stupid. 448 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,000 Johan, what do you think of the track? 449 00:51:49,000 --> 00:52:01,000 Martin Popoff said on his podcast that this this latest new Judas Priest album is their best album ever. 450 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,000 And I mean, yeah, he said, I mean, yes. 451 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:14,000 So I'm really looking forward to the album. But yeah, I think this song is good. 452 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:23,000 I agree with Brad that that Rob should use his screaming vocal, you know, to, you know, 453 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:32,000 some very old Swedish word is Vareera. So that Vareera you have to Vareera. 454 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,000 You need dynamics. Yeah. Yeah. You need dynamics. Yeah. 455 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:44,000 You can't do the same thing for the whole frickin song. Anyway, I'm not the biggest fan of the album Painkiller. 456 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:52,000 But this song is good. It's really good because I listened to it yesterday and today again at work. 457 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000 And this is a good song. 458 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000 How did this song go over at work, Johan? 459 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,000 I had headphones. Yeah, I was alone at work. 460 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,000 We have a break at work spring, kind of a spring, a winter break. 461 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:17,000 So I was alone in the kitchen. So I had headphones in. That's. 462 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:23,000 You know, when I first started at the Poison Center, I was I was a much younger man 463 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:29,000 and I would make people listen to my music. 464 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,000 That's that's because you were you were in charge, right? 465 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,000 No, I wasn't. I just started there. I was just, you know, I was the guy who showed up for work. 466 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,000 So I was like, well, I'm here. We're going to listen to my music. 467 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,000 And I didn't like blast it because, you know, you couldn't ensure phone calls. I pause it for a phone call or something. 468 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000 But yeah, you guys had to listen to my music. 469 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,000 Although some guy got back at me on a weekend, we were working together. 470 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,000 He bought this huge box set of Bob Dylan. 471 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:05,000 And he started from the first disc. And I mean, after about five hours of Bob Dylan, he 472 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:12,000 he he he. I was like, OK, dude, we need to do something different here. 473 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:18,000 Something different. You know, you talk about Rob Hoffer, you know, doing the same voice. 474 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:24,000 But Bob was doing the same he he he for the whole frickin five hours. 475 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Like, holy crap, I'd rather be listening to Kansas. 476 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:37,000 But I mean, I don't listen to Bob Dylan, but I never have. 477 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Thank you, Victor. 478 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:48,000 But yeah, I think that the songs from the latest album that has been released so far, 479 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:55,000 this one sounds like painkiller and my favorite Crown of Horns. 480 00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:02,000 I feel it sounds like something from Point of Entry and Scream for Vengeance, perhaps. 481 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:08,000 So it's really good. So I'm with Johan on this. 482 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,000 We need to hang out more. Yeah, yeah, we do. 483 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:19,000 We do hang out. Yeah. 484 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:28,000 I think perhaps the US priest has a really good album coming this March. 485 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:35,000 It would be I mean, no one would be happier than me to to to hear a real good 486 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000 US priest album again. So I think it's it's good. 487 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:44,000 And Rob sings. I mean, he sees seventy one to two to two. 488 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:55,000 Yeah. Amazing. And the voice, it sounds like there's no, you know, effects on the vocals or so. 489 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,000 He sings. It's all things. Yeah. 490 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:07,000 I'm impressed. And I'll tell you what, though, if you watch that as a blood stock, the KK's priest video that's out there, 491 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:15,000 you watch the last song, Victim of Changes. And holy crap. And Ripper. 492 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,000 Unbelievable. That dude can really, really sing. 493 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,000 He's a little weird on stage, though, isn't he? I mean, he kind of does this. 494 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:31,000 I don't know. He's a little he's a little weird. But man, that guy can sing. Holy crap. 495 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:41,000 When you just place where this is, you know, sorry for breaking in here, but when they were playing here in Sweden 496 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:47,000 and when Ripper was singing, they played small places here in Sweden. 497 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:53,000 And my friends were to see what to see them. 498 00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:01,000 And they went backstage and Ripper was like the other guys from the priest were rock stars. 499 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:08,000 But Ripper was like kind of like he was like a businessman. 500 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:19,000 He was he he he was he he was nothing like the others, even though they're from England. 501 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:25,000 He he was like an American businessman who met the fans. 502 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:34,000 So that was a very special kind of a special guy. But he sings really well. I agree. 503 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,000 Yeah, I'd like to meet him. Victor, you ever chat with him? I have. 504 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:51,000 And he was cool. He was cool. There you go. When I interviewed him and I've exchanged a few emails with him way back when. 505 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:58,000 And he was always cool to me. Maybe he's a really cool dude. All right. 506 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:06,000 That's that's another one of my goals after I get to hang with Ed in person, Johan in person, Ripper. 507 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Yeah, after my job and Steve and he's in Ohio. 508 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:20,000 Yeah. Ed, what do you think of the new pre songs? Have you heard them? 509 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,000 Yeah, I listened to it before the show and it was great. 510 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,000 I liked it better than the video, the first video that you posted. 511 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:39,000 Was that been a few weeks now? I can't remember. This one. No, it's been maybe two, three months at this point. 512 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,000 Yeah. But as usual, I'm glad the guys out there doing what he's doing. 513 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:56,000 But as usual, Martin is wrong. You're not hearing anything that is different or better than screaming or British or sad wings. 514 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:08,000 He says some weird stuff. Well, he's entertaining the list, but it's yeah, he's he's got strange, strange ideas sometimes. 515 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:13,000 There's there's there's two things to consider. One, he likes to stir shit up. 516 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:22,000 I think he does. And two, at the end of the day, it all depends on who's paying for more ads. 517 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:29,000 Yeah. So that's love. Hate must have paid him a lot of money. 518 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:35,000 Yeah, that seems to be he seems to think they're one of the best bands of all time. 519 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,000 I mean, he goes on and on about. Yeah, he's funny. 520 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:48,000 Yeah, what's the chance of them having a reunion? Love, hate. Yeah. 521 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:54,000 Very difficult. I mean, they could go out under that name. 522 00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:12,000 But as far as the four original members, I don't think we'll ever see that, at least from the interviews that I've seen or heard Jizzy talk about that, you know, I guess the guitarist doesn't play anymore. 523 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:20,000 And and he doesn't really get along with the other members. And so. Yeah. 524 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:37,000 Now, I'm I'm hoping to be wrong. You know, after I listen to it, if I'm wrong, I'll come back and apologize and admit my problem, though, is that there's probably nobody calling up, you know, Jizzy's manager saying, hey, got this big check here for you. 525 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:49,000 Putting my love hate back together again. He seems he seems to think that in the UK, they've got a huge audience. Who knows? He probably knows better than I do. 526 01:00:49,000 --> 01:01:04,000 Yeah, I don't know. I do have to say this. I never well, I guess I have I saw the love hate on the very first tour warming up for Dio back in the Rowan Robertson era, which was one tour. 527 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:13,000 And they were really good. They were really good, man. The bass player that dude ripped it up, man. Yeah. 528 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:34,000 Their their their first few albums were, you know, were loved by critics and fans alike. And the the bass player was the one thing that stood out because you had someone who's playing like Flea basically within a hard rock metal band. 529 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:46,000 You know, so it was unique at the time. It was, you know, predated Rob Trujillo and other people that maybe incorporated funkier style of playing with with in metal. 530 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:53,000 So, yeah, that for their first album rock solid. That's really, really good. 531 01:01:53,000 --> 01:02:13,000 Johan, go ahead. Yeah. You know, back in 89, 90, 91, I bought a lot of foreign music magazines, both, you know, both English and from US. 532 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:28,000 And there was a lot about this band, Love and Hate. And back then and now they are pretty much unknown here in Scandinavia. 533 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:45,000 I mean, I've only heard of them because of the magazines I bought almost 30 years ago. I don't know a song. I haven't heard a song of them. 534 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:53,000 Now, perhaps I have heard. But you know what I mean. But they are so unknown here. 535 01:02:53,000 --> 01:03:09,000 Yeah, but that's I think that's a common theme of them everywhere. I mean, they were kind of at the tail end of the whole L.A. strip scene and they really didn't fit in there either. 536 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:25,000 I mean, they weren't they had more to offer. So I don't think they quite caught on because they didn't have, you know, the ballads that other bands had their biggest songs are probably all for that. 537 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:33,000 First, what's that black out in the red room? Why do you think they know? 538 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:44,000 Yeah, those are the two songs that got a lot of play on MTV in the US. Then their second album really didn't get that much play. 539 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:55,000 And then their third album, Eddie Trunk would play the hell out of the song Spinning Wheel and Let's Rumble, which the album I think is called Let's Rumble. 540 01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So those got played a lot, but they got played a lot because they had, you know, someone like Eddie Trunk who was really into the band and played them. 541 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:15,000 But they weren't really anywhere else. I mean, I guess in the pop off household, they got played a lot. 542 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:27,000 Obviously. Yeah, I've never heard him actually. And I'm not saying they're a bad band. It's just like when you listen to him or read his album rankings of like best of all time. 543 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:34,000 He ranks that stuff, you know, above some other things that just make you shake your head. 544 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:41,000 Anyway, that new pre-song though was great. I love the tone, the riffs in that song. 545 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:52,000 Yeah, they were all sounding like they are on firepower. Hopefully it'll be, you know, another good record just like that. If not better. 546 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,000 Let's hope it's better. Yeah. 547 01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:03,000 You know what's going to make it better? Is that Ronnie Romero's not doing the vocals. 548 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,000 Nothing against Ronnie's vocals. It's just enough already. Okay. 549 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:18,000 The problem is that if he's appearing on every single project that Frontiers has, it just gets boring after a while. 550 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:28,000 Exactly. Yeah. And plus it's like what's the viability of this band going out and doing shows? I mean, if he's there, you know, singer. 551 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,000 Yeah, there's two chances, slim and none. 552 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:40,000 Yeah. Yeah. Michael Shingers found that out. I mean, I guess he did a few shows with him, but yeah. Yeah. 553 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,000 All right. So awesome. 554 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,000 We're going to wrap things up here with another great discussion that we had tonight. 555 01:05:49,000 --> 01:06:03,000 I want to thank Ed in Kentucky. I want to thank Johan in Sweden. I want to thank Brad who all of a sudden entered into a Frankie Goes to Hollywood video there with the laser lights going on. 556 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000 I'm shooting lasers out of my ass. 557 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,000 There you go. 558 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,000 It is kind of a Frankie Go to Hollywood thing, isn't it? 559 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,000 There you go. 560 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:22,000 Look at that. Edgar Winterson has got a Wasted in America CD single, which is the title track off of the second album from Love Hate. 561 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:29,000 Anyway, I want to thank Ed as well for keeping the chat lively as he usually does when he's here. 562 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,000 Good to see you, Edgar. 563 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:48,000 Yep. Laser beam me, I think is what you're looking for there, Edgar. 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