WEBVTT 00:00:01.980 --> 00:00:06.700 Hovering was created and recorded on the unceded 00:00:06.700 --> 00:00:09.900 lands of the Boon Wurrung and Wurundjeri peoples 00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:13.580 of the Kulin Nation. People who have a proud 00:00:13.580 --> 00:00:15.859 and incredible history of storytelling stretching 00:00:15.859 --> 00:00:18.679 back thousands of years. This always was and 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:27.420 always will be Aboriginal land. Hovering is intended 00:00:27.420 --> 00:00:30.500 for a mature audience. It contains strong language 00:00:30.500 --> 00:00:33.259 and adult themes including references to sex 00:00:33.259 --> 00:00:35.740 and drug use. Listener discretion is advised. 00:01:15.099 --> 00:01:21.340 That's all they had. That's okay. Oats slice 00:01:21.340 --> 00:01:27.840 or something. Looks healthy. I'll save it for 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:40.079 later. Anyone turn up while I was gone? Nobody 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:45.349 that fits the description. And this is... Definitely 00:01:45.349 --> 00:01:48.189 where she wanted to meet. This is the place. 00:01:50.170 --> 00:01:52.109 Should we just find out where she lives or something? 00:01:53.390 --> 00:01:57.250 We have to let her come to us. It's been half 00:01:57.250 --> 00:01:59.810 an hour already. We might be waiting all night. 00:02:01.829 --> 00:02:04.689 Feels like that might be a waste of time. Well, 00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:08.909 we need to wait until she's ready. Just trust 00:02:08.909 --> 00:02:25.330 me on this. So how long have you been in the 00:02:25.330 --> 00:02:31.050 Sears for? Six years now. Matt? Okay, it takes 00:02:31.050 --> 00:02:34.509 that long to work your way up? There's no work 00:02:34.509 --> 00:02:36.969 your way up. If you don't want to, you don't 00:02:36.969 --> 00:02:39.990 come to meetings. If you find it useful, it's 00:02:39.990 --> 00:02:44.270 there. I've found it more useful than others. 00:02:44.930 --> 00:02:48.430 So now I'm more experienced and I take the lead 00:02:48.430 --> 00:02:56.120 in situations like these. I mean, I've been to 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:06.199 a few meetings now. It's cool. Do you think that's 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:15.819 her? Could be. Just stay put. I was just gonna 00:03:15.819 --> 00:03:19.900 say hi. Wait for her to say it first. Maybe she 00:03:19.900 --> 00:03:28.099 needs a little encouragement. She'd be happy 00:03:28.099 --> 00:03:30.759 to stay here all night for nothing. We're showing 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.780 to Neil that we're here for her when she's ready. 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:42.180 Alright. You've been to a few meetings, right? 00:03:43.979 --> 00:03:47.080 Yeah. Would you have come to a meeting if someone 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:54.740 had made you talk the first time? I guess I can 00:03:54.740 --> 00:03:58.050 see what you're getting at. We don't exist to 00:03:58.050 --> 00:04:01.189 put pressure on anyone, okay? We exist so that 00:04:01.189 --> 00:04:02.990 people have someone to talk to when they want 00:04:02.990 --> 00:04:18.629 to. Whenever they feel like they want to. I was 00:04:18.629 --> 00:04:27.350 17. I was about that age too. Yeah? Hmm, thereabouts. 00:04:30.970 --> 00:04:35.649 Does it ever get easier? Gets easier to hear 00:04:35.649 --> 00:04:37.970 when you've said it a bunch of times out loud. 00:04:44.870 --> 00:04:50.029 A bunch of us went fishing over Easter. Right. 00:04:52.670 --> 00:04:56.529 We drove down to South Australia. To the Kurong, 00:04:56.790 --> 00:05:02.490 do you know? Yeah. This big woodland before you 00:05:02.490 --> 00:05:06.769 reach Adelaide, it's like a flat, long bog for 00:05:06.769 --> 00:05:17.110 ages. So we were driving back at night through 00:05:17.110 --> 00:05:20.569 this national park, it's kind of long, straight 00:05:20.569 --> 00:05:24.990 road. Nobody around, there's a servo and then... 00:05:24.939 --> 00:05:27.860 nothing for kilometers. We were driving through 00:05:27.860 --> 00:05:32.660 that. I was in the front passenger seat. My mate 00:05:32.660 --> 00:05:34.220 was driving and then there were a couple of guys 00:05:34.220 --> 00:05:41.139 in the back. They were asleep. And I was just, 00:05:41.220 --> 00:05:43.819 you know, kind of watching the road just roll 00:05:43.819 --> 00:05:48.259 out in front of us. Just the endless monotony 00:05:48.259 --> 00:05:54.839 of it. And then total darkness. Pass the headlines 00:05:54.839 --> 00:06:13.360 And then the van Started shaking Ryan And you 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.100 know, you know, I wasn't the best condition van 00:06:15.100 --> 00:06:19.519 so I'm thinking Okay, we need to pull over but 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.540 then Then it just stops engine just just cuts 00:06:24.540 --> 00:06:27.519 and I'm thinking well this is this is fucked 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:28.980 you know we're in the middle nowhere middle of 00:06:28.980 --> 00:06:31.079 the night and you know my mates got his phone 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.600 out he's trying to call someone but then there's 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:39.680 this then there's this light not from the sky 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:45.000 you know like from from from under the van a 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:51.750 light a glow And my mate can't get through on 00:06:51.750 --> 00:06:56.750 the phone to anyone just like dead air And then 00:06:56.750 --> 00:07:00.790 the van starts shaking again And now it's quite 00:07:00.790 --> 00:07:03.970 strong. Okay, like like like violent shaking 00:07:03.970 --> 00:07:10.550 and then and then the van Lifts up into the air. 00:07:10.550 --> 00:07:14.110 I swear to God I can feel it hanging in the air 00:07:14.110 --> 00:07:16.610 and my mate he's going crazy and the other guys 00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:18.649 in the back have woken up and they scream, but 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:22.540 I'm kind of quiet I don't know what to say. I'm 00:07:22.540 --> 00:07:28.540 kind of... I felt like my voice had left my body. 00:07:30.379 --> 00:07:35.800 And where... The whole van is hanging in the 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:42.379 air with this light for... I'd say five seconds? 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.350 And then we drop onto the road again. So we make 00:07:51.350 --> 00:07:53.829 contact with the road like there's an audible 00:07:53.829 --> 00:07:56.129 thud so it we're definitely we would we would 00:07:56.129 --> 00:08:00.350 we were definitely off the ground And then just 00:08:00.350 --> 00:08:02.930 out of nowhere that engine turns back on and 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:04.889 headlights turn on and everything's right again 00:08:04.889 --> 00:08:09.689 like Like nothing had happened The moment driving 00:08:09.689 --> 00:08:13.029 is freaking out Okay, so then we we pull over 00:08:13.029 --> 00:08:15.329 and get out of the car and the phone's working 00:08:15.329 --> 00:08:17.629 again so we reported to the roadside assistance 00:08:17.629 --> 00:08:20.699 people and and just wait there for ages for someone 00:08:20.699 --> 00:08:24.980 to come check out the vehicle but like there's 00:08:24.980 --> 00:08:27.300 nothing physically wrong with it it's it's working 00:08:27.300 --> 00:08:33.820 fine but it's it's really shaken us and my mate 00:08:33.820 --> 00:08:36.220 is convinced there's some fault with the van 00:08:36.220 --> 00:08:42.320 but there's there's clearly not all of us standing 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:53.180 out on that road knew it was not the van but 00:08:53.180 --> 00:08:57.379 then the longer we waited in the dark and you 00:08:57.379 --> 00:09:00.940 know took turns taking naps before these roadside 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:04.899 assistance guys turned up it was like the further 00:09:04.899 --> 00:09:08.659 we got from it the easier it was to just pretend 00:09:08.659 --> 00:09:12.500 it was nothing like it was an engine fault we 00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:18.539 were dealing with so that's that's what my mate 00:09:18.539 --> 00:09:22.029 decided And some of the other guys in the back 00:09:22.029 --> 00:09:25.350 decided they'd dreamt it. You know, we didn't 00:09:25.350 --> 00:09:29.110 discuss it. We just kind of decided communally 00:09:29.110 --> 00:09:31.929 without speaking that we would pretend that this 00:09:31.929 --> 00:09:35.149 thing that had just happened to us hadn't happened 00:09:35.149 --> 00:09:40.330 to us. And it was weird for me because there 00:09:40.330 --> 00:09:42.230 were other people around when it happened, so 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:47.529 it felt like... I've had moments where I felt 00:09:47.529 --> 00:09:51.019 like I'm crazy, to be honest. Like four other 00:09:51.019 --> 00:09:54.019 grown adults were there with me and say it didn't 00:09:54.019 --> 00:09:58.159 happen and I know it did but I Don't know maybe 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.879 it didn't You know, if they're so convinced it 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:08.700 didn't happen then maybe it didn't But then That 00:10:08.700 --> 00:10:10.539 means there's something seriously wrong with 00:10:10.539 --> 00:10:15.580 my head To have experienced something that to 00:10:15.580 --> 00:10:20.559 me was real Do you think there's something wrong 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:33.019 with your head? No. I just couldn't get back 00:10:33.019 --> 00:10:35.519 on with my life without acknowledging that this 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.120 thing that I'd experienced was real. I couldn't 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.059 put it out of my head. It stayed there. I googled 00:10:46.059 --> 00:10:51.039 stuff. but only when I was alone, because I was 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.559 ashamed of it. I felt like a weirdo, you know? 00:10:55.779 --> 00:11:05.139 But when I found you guys, the idea that I could 00:11:05.139 --> 00:11:07.500 talk about this thing that I had been hiding, 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.440 that I could talk about it with a bunch of people 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.179 who might listen and get it, that meant a lot 00:11:16.179 --> 00:11:30.350 to me. Well, I'm glad you found us. Yeah. Me 00:11:30.350 --> 00:11:35.730 too. It's hard to accept something that everyone 00:11:35.730 --> 00:11:40.730 else around you just refuses to accept. It takes 00:11:40.730 --> 00:11:49.490 a lot of courage. Yeah. That's her. That's her. 00:11:49.649 --> 00:11:52.429 She's waving. Should we go over? Yeah, I think 00:11:52.429 --> 00:11:58.000 we should. Are you coming? I think she'd like 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:42.490 to hear from you first. Alright. Hovering is 00:12:42.490 --> 00:12:45.649 written and directed by Alex Duncan. It was produced 00:12:45.649 --> 00:12:49.409 by Alex Duncan and Clea Frost. This episode 00:12:49.409 --> 00:12:53.169 was performed by Oliver Coleman and Ben Clements. 00:12:53.830 --> 00:12:57.409 Sound design and mixing by Clea Frost. Music 00:12:57.409 --> 00:13:01.629 by Audrey Vixen. Cover art by Phoenix Waddell. 00:13:02.190 --> 00:13:05.110 Full credits and more information available in 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:05.809 our show notes.