WEBVTT 00:00:01.129 --> 00:00:03.350 In this episode of What the Prophets Say, join 00:00:03.350 --> 00:00:05.169 me, Emma Stark, Jonah Wilson, and Matt Johnson 00:00:05.169 --> 00:00:10.570 as we dive into what is it like to be a seer, 00:00:10.570 --> 00:00:15.310 emotionally led by the spirit prophet, particularly 00:00:15.310 --> 00:00:19.030 when you're a man in a world that doesn't like 00:00:19.030 --> 00:00:23.800 righteous desire. Hello, loyal listeners, and 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:25.940 a very warm welcome to another episode of What 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:28.460 the Prophets Say with me, Emma Stark. I am joined 00:00:28.460 --> 00:00:34.799 in the studio once again by... That wasn't very 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:39.560 tuneful. Wow. What an entrance, Jonah. What 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.719 an entrance. A lovely tune. Emma always comes 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:44.719 on these What the Prophets Say and does a little 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:48.799 song for most guests, doesn't she? Hang on, I've 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:52.320 got to try again. Is that better? I don't know. 00:00:52.899 --> 00:00:55.299 We'll take it. You'll take it. Jonah Wilson, 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:57.740 Matt Johnson, welcome back. How are you? Wonderful, 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.140 thank you. So our American, our English and our 00:01:01.140 --> 00:01:03.820 Irish, who's very good at making potatoes, reference 00:01:03.820 --> 00:01:07.819 previous broadcast. But Geordie, do the Geordie 00:01:07.819 --> 00:01:10.200 in Newcastle want to be their own nation, Matt? 00:01:11.209 --> 00:01:13.450 I don't think so, actually. I think we're quite 00:01:13.450 --> 00:01:15.909 content being Northern. We probably don't want 00:01:15.909 --> 00:01:20.209 to be Southern or that part of England. Here 00:01:20.209 --> 00:01:22.709 we are. Oh, very much so. If you guys make an 00:01:22.709 --> 00:01:25.469 intentional effort to let me know, I am from 00:01:25.469 --> 00:01:28.650 the North. Oh, yes, absolutely. We love the Scottish, 00:01:28.670 --> 00:01:32.010 but anyone from any further than York, it's like... 00:01:32.750 --> 00:01:36.129 Yeah, it's very aware. Bless them. Bless them, 00:01:36.230 --> 00:01:41.049 you know. Our cultural and geographical idiosyncrasies 00:01:41.049 --> 00:01:43.629 are now fully on display. But actually we just, 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:45.709 we released that because we're prophets. We have 00:01:45.709 --> 00:01:49.750 to be apolitical. You're dead right. You are 00:01:49.750 --> 00:01:52.590 dead right. Although I would like to say that 00:01:52.590 --> 00:01:56.209 you likened me to Mrs. Doubtfire a minute ago. 00:01:57.549 --> 00:02:03.480 Robin Williams in costume. But please tell me 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.340 I look and sound nothing like Mrs Doubtfire. 00:02:06.579 --> 00:02:09.360 Heck no. I think it says in our contract, Jonah, 00:02:09.419 --> 00:02:13.039 that we can't speak on behalf of this. So yes, 00:02:13.259 --> 00:02:16.580 no, Emma, you sound and look nothing like Mrs 00:02:16.580 --> 00:02:20.259 Doubtfire. Thanks. I don't know how I got like 00:02:20.259 --> 00:02:23.039 into that. But anyway, I hope it's not a comment 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.629 on my age. No, but to be fair, Becca, every time 00:02:27.629 --> 00:02:31.090 I try to do the Newcastle accent, I try to mock 00:02:31.090 --> 00:02:32.469 her and she's like, you make me sound like Mary 00:02:32.469 --> 00:02:34.689 Poppins every single time you do my accent. I 00:02:34.689 --> 00:02:36.349 was like, and what's wrong with Mary Poppins? 00:02:36.729 --> 00:02:39.949 A spoonful of sugar, house of medicine. Sorry, 00:02:40.210 --> 00:02:42.289 sorry. Moving on to something spiritual very 00:02:42.289 --> 00:02:46.330 fast before you and I break into a standard set 00:02:46.330 --> 00:02:49.289 of musicals. The joy of working with Jonah is 00:02:49.289 --> 00:02:52.969 that you know all the words to most of the musicals 00:02:52.969 --> 00:02:55.419 that I know the words. too so it's a Matt you've 00:02:55.419 --> 00:02:57.680 not joined in how's your singing voice absolutely 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:02.960 terrible however give me a Disney playlist Sarah 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.500 goes crazy she's like why do we have to listen 00:03:06.500 --> 00:03:08.659 to Disney for three hours in the car and I'm 00:03:08.659 --> 00:03:10.879 like every Disney song is amazing sing us your 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.439 favourite come on it has to be Hercules and I 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.780 can go the distance every millennial man absolutely 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:21.539 you know every millennial man He has that song. 00:03:21.580 --> 00:03:24.180 I can be who I want to be. That's me. It's me. 00:03:24.379 --> 00:03:26.159 I can go the distance. You know what makes it 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:28.500 even more magical? When you are in front of the 00:03:28.500 --> 00:03:32.060 castle, Magic Kingdom, happily ever after, and 00:03:32.060 --> 00:03:35.780 they pop Hercules on the castle and you're just 00:03:35.780 --> 00:03:38.960 like, I feel like I'm a man. Ladies and gentlemen, 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.280 you have officially entered the Twilight Zone. 00:03:41.620 --> 00:03:46.159 And I don't know what to say to you. So, guys, 00:03:46.340 --> 00:03:50.379 these. gentlemen to my left are anointed men 00:03:50.379 --> 00:03:55.180 of God. And they are, you're both in your 20s. 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:58.199 Yep. And coming up to some bigger birthdays. 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:02.900 And we're scheming. In fact, we have, I think, 00:04:02.900 --> 00:04:07.219 Sam's turning 30. You are turning 30. You're 00:04:07.219 --> 00:04:10.479 30 soon. And then I'll be 30. You'll be 30. I'm 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.180 turning 50. David's turning 50. We're all hitting 00:04:13.180 --> 00:04:17.740 our big birthdays. And lots of celebration. But 00:04:17.740 --> 00:04:20.399 what we hit kind of privately that we want to 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:24.339 bring to you today is particularly to talk to 00:04:24.339 --> 00:04:28.339 them as men, if that's permitted. I know we get 00:04:28.339 --> 00:04:32.860 very scared about the kind of misappropriating 00:04:32.860 --> 00:04:36.519 roles and responsibilities. But we're going to 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:40.019 go there in that in Scripture, if I can set the 00:04:40.019 --> 00:04:41.720 scene and then I'm going to kick the ball to 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:47.600 their feet to pass. Trying to put in a soccer 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.660 analogy. Sorry. Suzanne's giving you a thumbs 00:04:50.660 --> 00:04:54.240 up. Is she for a soccer analogy? We're covering 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:59.529 all our favourites, soccer and musicals. There 00:04:59.529 --> 00:05:02.930 are three types of prophets in Scripture, but 00:05:02.930 --> 00:05:04.410 the two that we want to talk about particularly 00:05:04.410 --> 00:05:09.250 today is the Nabi, N -A -B -I. That's just the 00:05:09.250 --> 00:05:12.810 Old Testament Hebrew word for a certain category 00:05:12.810 --> 00:05:16.449 of prophet. And they are the wordsmiths. They 00:05:16.449 --> 00:05:19.449 bubble up with language. It's very much about, 00:05:19.610 --> 00:05:23.430 and the Spirit of the Lord says, and it's a word 00:05:23.430 --> 00:05:27.750 that is given. It's a gush of spoken or sung 00:05:27.750 --> 00:05:32.170 revelation. I predominantly manifest like that 00:05:32.170 --> 00:05:33.990 when the Spirit of God moves in me in the public 00:05:33.990 --> 00:05:39.730 space. It sounds quite authoritative. It fills 00:05:39.730 --> 00:05:45.009 the room, that nabby flow with the sense of the 00:05:45.009 --> 00:05:47.709 word of the Lord or the command of the Lord or 00:05:47.709 --> 00:05:51.110 the direction of the Lord. And it sometimes, 00:05:51.509 --> 00:05:55.370 you know, because it comes from me in female 00:05:55.370 --> 00:05:58.410 form, there's an awful lot of critique of, you 00:05:58.410 --> 00:06:02.189 know, harsh or masculine. Whereas if a man did 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:05.149 it, it would seem, you know, like a thing to 00:06:05.149 --> 00:06:08.170 be celebrated because it's very direct in orientation. 00:06:09.050 --> 00:06:14.800 So you two gentlemen. are dominantly not that, 00:06:14.819 --> 00:06:16.800 though you can become that if you need to and 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.220 you do dip in and out of that as required, but 00:06:20.220 --> 00:06:24.060 you two have a very definite preference and calling 00:06:24.060 --> 00:06:27.240 of the Lord to sit under the anointing of the 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.920 seer prophet. And that is a couple of different 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.540 words in Scripture. They are not nabi. It's not 00:06:32.540 --> 00:06:35.620 linked to that word, but it is linked to the 00:06:35.620 --> 00:06:41.750 sight, perception, emotion, sensory. uh connection 00:06:41.750 --> 00:06:47.370 with god the sense of i felt i saw and rather 00:06:47.370 --> 00:06:52.620 than i heard and i spoke It is my emotions were 00:06:52.620 --> 00:06:55.519 subjected to the emotions of the weight of how 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:59.959 God felt. I was overwhelmed in visionary state 00:06:59.959 --> 00:07:04.060 and I was in an ecstatic state of the possession 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:07.920 of the spirit. And sometimes that feels almost 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:13.259 a little bit more feminized because it's a communication 00:07:13.259 --> 00:07:20.279 that is usually I felt, I saw. I sensed and it 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:25.220 is quite deeply emotionally orientated and given 00:07:25.220 --> 00:07:29.620 scent from the Lord so that you burden bear his 00:07:29.620 --> 00:07:34.660 emotional status with him in that. And that is 00:07:34.660 --> 00:07:40.689 not unusual, but in some senses it is. thought 00:07:40.689 --> 00:07:43.490 of as quite feminized forms, and yet you're sitting 00:07:43.490 --> 00:07:50.230 here as true, courageous men of God who live 00:07:50.230 --> 00:07:54.290 in that way before the Lord, lives laid down, 00:07:54.470 --> 00:07:59.550 but very much warrior men living within the emotions 00:07:59.550 --> 00:08:04.410 of God. And sometimes you get the criticism in 00:08:04.410 --> 00:08:08.100 reverse that I get. of like, well, you know, 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:10.819 should you not be looking more, I don't know, 00:08:10.939 --> 00:08:14.939 male in how you deliver a prophetic word. And 00:08:14.939 --> 00:08:17.959 yet you are reflections of the heart of God. 00:08:18.019 --> 00:08:22.360 Now we can all do both. I have watched you guys 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.680 nabby and you've watched me seer in my delivery 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.250 of words. So we train in. GPA, just to be able 00:08:31.250 --> 00:08:33.110 to steer revelation in, to be perfectly honest, 00:08:33.250 --> 00:08:36.470 however God wants it to be disseminated. But 00:08:36.470 --> 00:08:40.309 I want to spend this episode that we have together 00:08:40.309 --> 00:08:45.330 in asking you what it is like to sit in that 00:08:45.330 --> 00:08:48.779 role. as if I can say men in their 20s, young 00:08:48.779 --> 00:08:53.299 men, you're not quite in middle age. David and 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:56.620 I are very definitely both feet now in middle 00:08:56.620 --> 00:09:00.000 age, although David assuredly tells me that 49 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.759 is not yet middle age, but perimenopause tells 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.779 me differently. And the joy of our ages and stages. 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:14.960 But you guys have made some choices to not shirk. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:19.039 or hide away from that particular expression 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:24.500 of God, the God who is jealous, the God who weeps, 00:09:24.580 --> 00:09:28.419 the God who feels about his own very deeply, 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.200 the God of pursuit, the God of desire, the God 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.940 of Romans 8, where his spirit groans, the God 00:09:35.940 --> 00:09:40.559 who gives to both Ezekiel, Daniel, and... John, 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.299 Isaiah also, and others in Scripture, a strong 00:09:44.299 --> 00:09:48.259 sight gift who coaches Jeremiah. What do you 00:09:48.259 --> 00:09:52.220 see, Jeremiah? And Jeremiah in chapter one is 00:09:52.220 --> 00:09:55.600 schooled by the Lord in a sight gift. So as I 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.879 set the framework for particularly, not just 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:00.740 the sight, because the sight maybe is too easy, 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.679 but the full breadth of what seer in Scripture 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:09.519 represents, the rah, where the word is rah, R 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.120 -A -A -H in its English transliteration, of a 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.639 very all -encompassing possession of all that 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.340 you are in a sensory way by the Spirit of God 00:10:19.340 --> 00:10:22.539 that he might put revelation and impress revelation 00:10:22.539 --> 00:10:26.440 on you from the inside out. Can you talk, let's 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.580 go to early years before we go to the adult ascent 00:10:30.580 --> 00:10:34.379 to that call. Who wants to start? What is it 00:10:34.379 --> 00:10:39.330 like to know that you are feeling deeply? Yeah, 00:10:39.409 --> 00:10:43.370 I think for me, one of my earliest, certainly 00:10:43.370 --> 00:10:47.370 earliest memories is probably when I'm roughly 00:10:47.370 --> 00:10:53.129 around 16 and I'm really trying to push in for 00:10:53.129 --> 00:10:57.830 a relationship with Jesus. And there's this whole 00:10:57.830 --> 00:11:01.720 sense of the... the church culture in England 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:04.519 where, oh, why are you doing that? Is that not 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.059 a little bit sissy? That was the word that was 00:11:07.059 --> 00:11:10.179 used at the time, given it was years ago. Why 00:11:10.179 --> 00:11:15.519 would you want to push in further? And I really 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.620 started to retreat and there was something in 00:11:17.620 --> 00:11:20.440 me one day, I had a dream and the Lord had just 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.539 said, go out, take a bag and go and give, you're 00:11:24.539 --> 00:11:25.879 going to meet someone on the street, give them 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:30.620 some clothes. I thought, I've got no idea where 00:11:30.620 --> 00:11:34.500 I'm going. Why would I do this? I'm 16 and my 00:11:34.500 --> 00:11:37.220 parents gracefully was like, go for it, you'll 00:11:37.220 --> 00:11:43.059 be fine. And I'm walking in the street and I 00:11:43.059 --> 00:11:45.980 see an angel and he says, follow me this way. 00:11:46.139 --> 00:11:50.139 And we go down this road and I meet this guy 00:11:50.139 --> 00:11:53.179 who needs some clothes. He has an encounter with 00:11:53.179 --> 00:11:56.220 Jesus. He then gives his life to Jesus, starts 00:11:56.220 --> 00:11:58.370 attending the church. blah, blah, blah, blah, 00:11:58.389 --> 00:12:03.470 blah, all this great stuff. And I felt the pull 00:12:03.470 --> 00:12:08.110 then of, do I retreat and go back into myself 00:12:08.110 --> 00:12:11.730 and go, actually, even though the Lord had pressed 00:12:11.730 --> 00:12:14.769 this, like you said, Emma, this sense that really 00:12:14.769 --> 00:12:18.970 bubbled up and rushed out. Do I retreat back 00:12:18.970 --> 00:12:21.570 and go, actually, I don't want that. And I feel 00:12:21.570 --> 00:12:27.279 like sometimes as men, we can. um hide away from 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:31.559 those feelings and go let's lean into the more 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.240 masculine which is oh no I hear from the Lord 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.779 quietly and um contemplatively yes absolutely 00:12:39.779 --> 00:12:44.019 almost sedate yeah yeah yeah and I think for 00:12:44.019 --> 00:12:47.500 me um very similarly I think when I started on 00:12:47.500 --> 00:12:50.879 my journey um it was probably seven or eight 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.019 that I recognize some level of I'm a dreamer. 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.799 It started in dreams. So it's the Lord's taking 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.940 me into heaven. He's showing me heaven. I'm having 00:12:59.940 --> 00:13:02.200 encounters with God himself. He's handing me 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.000 things in heaven. That was kind of the realm. 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.659 And my mom really empowered me in that and was 00:13:07.659 --> 00:13:09.440 like, tell me more about the dreams that you're 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.779 having. But I think it's right around that puberty, 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:18.320 adolescence age, that 12, 13, 14. No one said 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.580 anything to me. No one even had that language 00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:23.620 of don't be a sissy. But I think just culture 00:13:23.620 --> 00:13:28.019 shuts down naturally the sense of men feeling. 00:13:28.259 --> 00:13:32.740 So because your feeling is then shut down, that 00:13:32.740 --> 00:13:35.039 also then shuts down your ability to see in the 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:39.049 spirit. Yeah. Okay. Is any of that? a fear of 00:13:39.049 --> 00:13:42.389 feeling the wrong thing and not wanting unrighteous 00:13:42.389 --> 00:13:49.350 desires? So you neuter old desire? Yes, I think 00:13:49.350 --> 00:13:53.669 so. I think, speaking very honestly, there was 00:13:53.669 --> 00:13:58.129 confusion for me growing up. So I'm then sat 00:13:58.129 --> 00:14:01.350 in a, oh, well, people are saying these things. 00:14:01.389 --> 00:14:06.389 So maybe the unrighteous desire. is something 00:14:06.389 --> 00:14:09.169 that is my portion. And I think it's obviously 00:14:09.169 --> 00:14:14.669 a lie. And because you're bold enough to step 00:14:14.669 --> 00:14:18.970 out and say, I am feeling things and seeing things 00:14:18.970 --> 00:14:22.269 in the spirit, the enemy very quickly wants to 00:14:22.269 --> 00:14:25.350 try and shut that down through usually friends, 00:14:25.470 --> 00:14:28.750 sometimes family members, through very, very 00:14:28.750 --> 00:14:32.450 harsh, very cold comments. Don't know if you 00:14:32.450 --> 00:14:34.870 had a... Yeah, it's interesting. I think it's 00:14:34.870 --> 00:14:36.549 interlaced. I think there's definitely a piece 00:14:36.549 --> 00:14:38.590 of that with the unrighteous desire. I think 00:14:38.590 --> 00:14:42.740 the other piece for me was. There is a sense 00:14:42.740 --> 00:14:46.740 of because of my background and because of family 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:49.620 job losses and being constantly kind of in a 00:14:49.620 --> 00:14:51.480 state of fight or flight that you don't realize 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.039 as a kid. But there's a sense of just stuff everything 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.399 down. Don't feel. And so when you do that at 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.740 a young age, you're also then stuffing the gift. 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.360 And it really wasn't until I started doing the 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.440 deliverance, the inner healing, recognizing, 00:15:06.779 --> 00:15:09.080 wow, I've hindered my emotions. I've hindered 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.250 my ability to. like let's start with just even 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:14.509 the ability for a guy to cry and cry over something. 00:15:15.690 --> 00:15:18.549 When you suppress that, then because you're suppressing 00:15:18.549 --> 00:15:21.250 your own ability to feel, you're also, there's 00:15:21.250 --> 00:15:24.090 no way that you can feel God's emotions. You've 00:15:24.090 --> 00:15:26.450 just suppressed it all. And so then there's the 00:15:26.450 --> 00:15:28.710 sense, like you said, you go into contemplation. 00:15:28.789 --> 00:15:32.389 Oh, I can read God what he's saying in scripture. 00:15:33.289 --> 00:15:35.710 But even the ability for me, I would say, to 00:15:35.710 --> 00:15:39.970 say the words, I hear God's voice. That was probably 00:15:39.970 --> 00:15:43.250 all shut down until probably my, well, since 00:15:43.250 --> 00:15:48.289 until 2019. So I was 21, 22. Wow. That's how 00:15:48.289 --> 00:15:51.830 long from 12 until 21, 22. I think even worship 00:15:51.830 --> 00:15:53.590 though. Yeah, absolutely. And that's something 00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:56.149 I love about the culture here. Like I love that 00:15:56.149 --> 00:15:59.850 our young people are sold, so sold out for worshiping 00:15:59.850 --> 00:16:04.870 the Lord. Growing up in my background, worship 00:16:04.870 --> 00:16:09.870 was so hindered. So if you even follow David's 00:16:09.870 --> 00:16:13.990 example of being sold out, heart after God's 00:16:13.990 --> 00:16:16.029 heart, all of that. Dancing before the Lord. 00:16:16.029 --> 00:16:19.529 Dancing before, like undignified. That was seen 00:16:19.529 --> 00:16:23.429 as, why are you doing that? You should almost, 00:16:23.669 --> 00:16:25.950 and it comes back to that lie, you should be 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:28.690 seen and not heard. That was something spoken 00:16:28.690 --> 00:16:31.919 very much over. I think what interests me about 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:36.059 your story, Matt, is that you were a rugby player 00:16:36.059 --> 00:16:41.700 and that of all of the sports within the United 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:45.340 Kingdom context, the British Isles is seen as 00:16:45.340 --> 00:16:49.960 perhaps the most male, if that's the right word. 00:16:50.019 --> 00:16:53.100 It's actually quite a brave sport, a very dangerous 00:16:53.100 --> 00:16:54.940 sport. I mean, I know they've cleaned it up a 00:16:54.940 --> 00:16:56.340 little bit with a bit more safety rules around 00:16:56.340 --> 00:17:04.190 concussion, but injury and... and it doesn't 00:17:04.190 --> 00:17:06.470 have that soccer feeling of people who roll around 00:17:06.470 --> 00:17:09.690 the floor at the slightest tackle. It has a man's 00:17:09.690 --> 00:17:12.910 man feel about it. Talk to me about what it's 00:17:12.910 --> 00:17:16.240 like to sit in that place where... you're actually 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.579 highly achieving in something that is seen as 00:17:20.579 --> 00:17:24.680 very masculine. And then at the same time, the 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:28.480 Lord is pulling you into, I want you to know 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:32.000 me and I want to overwhelm you with my presence. 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:35.539 And I want you to be one who is a representation 00:17:35.539 --> 00:17:42.200 of my heart. What's that like? Yeah. it honestly 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.579 it felt at the time like i was living a double 00:17:44.579 --> 00:17:49.299 life um almost like i can have this very male 00:17:49.299 --> 00:17:54.220 very masculine rugby portion and no one could 00:17:54.220 --> 00:17:57.359 know about the relationship with god so what 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.039 i'm then doing is dwarfing that so the lord isn't 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.220 able to move at all really until he has my full 00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:09.920 yes but trying to merge them both into the same 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.160 person. Effectively, what I was doing is splitting 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:19.359 myself and not being a whole person. And that's 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.180 quite hard, especially as a teenager. And I see 00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:27.359 so many young people now and my heart is absolutely 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.819 for the young men of the next generation to not 00:18:30.819 --> 00:18:33.940 feel like they can't be who the Lord has made 00:18:33.940 --> 00:18:36.630 them to be. they should be able to feel and we 00:18:36.630 --> 00:18:39.289 should champion that as men. I would have loved 00:18:39.289 --> 00:18:43.049 for a guy my age to come to someone, say you're 00:18:43.049 --> 00:18:45.650 Samuel's age, Emma, and go, you're doing a great 00:18:45.650 --> 00:18:49.230 job. I wish I was as bold or as brave as you. 00:18:49.549 --> 00:18:54.049 And maybe we were in some ways because we had 00:18:54.049 --> 00:18:57.170 to start to break out and we looked to see what 00:18:57.170 --> 00:18:59.890 happened 100 years ago and even the transition 00:18:59.890 --> 00:19:03.670 then, it's massive compared to... you know, men, 00:19:03.869 --> 00:19:07.569 I'm talking about men. And the trajectory of 00:19:07.569 --> 00:19:11.589 how we are now becoming more accepted of these 00:19:11.589 --> 00:19:15.049 are my emotions. God gave me them. God clearly 00:19:15.049 --> 00:19:18.650 has emotion. How do we then steward them properly? 00:19:18.849 --> 00:19:20.950 And I think that needs to be the question where 00:19:20.950 --> 00:19:24.470 we really start to draw out for young guys, how 00:19:24.470 --> 00:19:26.809 do you steward that emotion properly? It's a 00:19:26.809 --> 00:19:30.309 great emotion to feel, to see, and all of that 00:19:30.309 --> 00:19:36.920 golden stuff. What do we do as the slightly older 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.859 generation to go to the younger generation, come 00:19:39.859 --> 00:19:42.559 up higher, come up higher? Yeah. I think the 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:47.400 other piece too is because the church, I'm talking 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.619 capital C church at this point. Yes, in the broader 00:19:49.619 --> 00:19:53.759 sense. Did not have a, for a long time, a value 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:58.789 in feeling God. in the art of God, like that 00:19:58.789 --> 00:20:01.690 God loves the arts, that God loves creativity. 00:20:02.569 --> 00:20:05.670 Because there's that gap. I even had a friend 00:20:05.670 --> 00:20:09.170 who was in high school, never struggled with 00:20:09.170 --> 00:20:12.450 any sort of same -sex attraction, but simply 00:20:12.450 --> 00:20:15.250 because he was creative, simply because he had 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:18.450 a Davidic call in his life and was very expressive, 00:20:18.710 --> 00:20:22.170 that label is then applied. Like there's only, 00:20:22.769 --> 00:20:26.119 you must be. Something must be wrong with you. 00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:30.240 And he went through confusion, not because he 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.660 ever struggled with that. He never he always 00:20:32.660 --> 00:20:35.220 liked females, but simply because that label 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:38.000 was then put on him. He then started to be like, 00:20:38.019 --> 00:20:40.000 well, am I? I must be because this is what's 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.779 being told. This is what the this is what they're 00:20:41.779 --> 00:20:44.779 telling me. And because the church did not have 00:20:44.779 --> 00:20:47.960 a place for someone who. tends to be more air 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.660 quote theater kid loves music loves the arts 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:55.599 encounters god can see god through that you now 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.799 are like struggling and i think that's what creates 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.380 even attention and your ability like where is 00:21:00.380 --> 00:21:03.279 my home where is my safe place within the body 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.990 of christ and i think there's there is such a 00:21:06.990 --> 00:21:10.549 power in in our words in the power and what we 00:21:10.549 --> 00:21:13.670 are decreeing over people and something something 00:21:13.670 --> 00:21:17.069 like well you're a sissy or oh well you you must 00:21:17.069 --> 00:21:20.049 be gay because you you feel and you're creative 00:21:20.049 --> 00:21:24.250 that is such a curse such a curse and how many 00:21:24.250 --> 00:21:27.329 times are we hearing that over a generation right 00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:32.490 that now we have men that quite honestly don't 00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:36.740 know how to be men because we think, oh, well, 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:40.099 it must be by this example, but where we've only 00:21:40.099 --> 00:21:42.440 got one portion because we've only been preached 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:46.480 one portion from Scripture from other, not all 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.880 men, but other older men, older ministers that 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:52.920 have only preached a very narrow -minded view 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.400 of the Bible and who God is. And a very Western 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.859 mindset, because if we go back to Scripture, 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:01.559 we go back to the Old Testament. We're looking 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.900 at seers, primarily actually men. Yeah, that 00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:07.160 is true. They're mainly men. They're mainly men 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.619 feeling. But if you look at, we cannot look at 00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:12.720 Christianity. We cannot look at Jewish roots, 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.640 which is what our faith is based in. Jesus is 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:20.490 a Jewish man from a lens. That is a Greco -Roman 00:22:20.490 --> 00:22:24.150 Western view. Eastern view was the mystery of 00:22:24.150 --> 00:22:27.769 God. Eastern view was the feeling of God. Eastern 00:22:27.769 --> 00:22:31.750 view that Judaism and Christianity stems from 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:35.910 was very much, I'm feeling God. I'm in God. And 00:22:35.910 --> 00:22:37.710 we were even talking about this before we started 00:22:37.710 --> 00:22:39.809 the broadcast, or maybe it was the previous broadcast, 00:22:39.849 --> 00:22:44.009 of what does it mean to be in God? When was the 00:22:44.009 --> 00:22:46.009 last time a man had a conversation and said, 00:22:46.589 --> 00:22:49.089 hey are you in god today what does it look like 00:22:49.089 --> 00:22:52.009 to feel him what have you when you woke up this 00:22:52.009 --> 00:22:55.130 morning what was it like to be in him the the 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:58.470 the new testament concept of i have put on christ 00:22:58.470 --> 00:23:03.789 yes yeah yes i am inside that yeah i am one with 00:23:03.789 --> 00:23:07.340 the spirit of god that kind of concept There's 00:23:07.340 --> 00:23:10.140 several kind of thoughts buzzing around my head. 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.819 I do want you to be able to give some top tips 00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:17.480 to even our male listeners, even the women who 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:22.200 are raising men, but the sense of what is helpful 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.059 to say and what do we bless. I'll just tell you 00:23:25.059 --> 00:23:30.220 a kind of personal thing and see if I need to 00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:32.900 edit this out because it's about my children. 00:23:35.069 --> 00:23:41.069 I am parenting some extreme children. And you're 00:23:41.069 --> 00:23:42.630 smiling because you know them all. I mean, in 00:23:42.630 --> 00:23:45.369 all of their unique ways. And some of their friends 00:23:45.369 --> 00:23:52.670 are very extreme too. And I saw them on social 00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:55.109 media. We didn't capture it, but somebody else 00:23:55.109 --> 00:23:58.410 in another organization captured one of my children 00:23:58.410 --> 00:24:02.930 and their friends. in a very high -octane worship 00:24:02.930 --> 00:24:07.450 environment and they are going for it. And both 00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:13.369 of them that are in my care, one my flesh and 00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:19.849 blood, one not, but in my care, are weeping before 00:24:19.849 --> 00:24:24.349 the Lord. And to me, it's beautiful. To me, I'm 00:24:24.349 --> 00:24:26.890 watching them on the social media set an example, 00:24:27.109 --> 00:24:32.509 one girl, one boy in this situation, and they 00:24:32.509 --> 00:24:40.839 are whoring themselves out. And it's such a laid 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:49.920 down, generous, Davidic expression of he, God, 00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:56.220 is wonderful. And the I will not hold back. And 00:24:56.220 --> 00:25:01.259 my initial thought of watching another ministry's 00:25:01.259 --> 00:25:05.880 social media capture them was, A sense of right 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:10.859 maternal pride of I'm so glad that those in my 00:25:10.859 --> 00:25:14.740 care, male and female, flesh and non -flesh, 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:20.640 in another city are living this extravagant life 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:24.920 before the Lord. And I felt, and I'm texting 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.539 them, I'm so proud of you. Jesus is all over 00:25:27.539 --> 00:25:31.980 you. I bless this expression. And then in the 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:35.269 private moment, I thought. Oh, oh, oh, you're 00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:38.150 about to get criticism for this. You're about 00:25:38.150 --> 00:25:43.119 to get a behind the scenes criticism. for your 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:46.220 extravagance before the Lord. And I knew it by 00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:50.240 the word of the Lord. And I thought, do I get 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:53.460 on the phone? Do I not get on the phone? Do I 00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:58.680 warn them? How do I pray? Where everything that 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:04.000 I want for them, wild pioneering, wild expression, 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:13.159 is about to be critiqued by their peers. And 00:26:13.159 --> 00:26:16.299 so I left it. This is a very personal story. 00:26:16.900 --> 00:26:23.539 One of them phones me and I has a dream and God's 00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:26.079 already warned them. Thank the Lord. And I hear 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:31.559 myself saying this. You're a pioneer. but you're 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:36.480 a pioneer in emotions for a generation. You are 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:42.900 called to pioneer generosity displayed to the 00:26:42.900 --> 00:26:48.519 Lord, you and your friends. And as men and women, 00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:51.279 because these guys are a bit older, in their 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:56.900 early 20s, you are supposed to wail, weep, dance, 00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:01.559 shout. feel what he feels over cities and people 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.880 groups. And you are a gift. And I heard myself 00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:10.740 say this. Your emotions are a gift. They are 00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:16.519 a gift to a generation to not have to hide so 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.920 that you accidentally develop. unrighteous desire 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.680 because the church does not let out righteous 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.140 desire. So you don't know what to do with what 00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:32.019 you feel. And suddenly pornography is more acceptable 00:27:32.019 --> 00:27:35.980 than the extremes before your God. So I'm going 00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:38.339 to bless you as a pioneer. And I'm going to say 00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:42.000 this to you as the parent in your life and as 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.900 the Christian leader in your life, though there's 00:27:43.900 --> 00:27:46.480 other clergy and other places around who we bless. 00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:50.440 I'm going to say this to you. The pioneer will 00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:54.019 always be, oh, that's a bit too much. That's 00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:59.720 a bit too much. We must learn to say thank you, 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:04.680 Jesus, for the pioneers. Thank you, Jesus, that 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:09.400 you give us those who make us think. What about 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.680 that? And I felt this, perhaps the frustration 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.180 of the years of my life, come in the conversation 00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:19.140 with my own children. Where is the voice that 00:28:19.140 --> 00:28:26.440 says hallelujah for a provocation? Finally. Finally. 00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:31.220 For a people who will go, he's worthy. And I 00:28:31.220 --> 00:28:36.460 saw him and I met him and I encountered him and 00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:40.180 he spoke to me and I wailed before him. Where 00:28:40.180 --> 00:28:45.940 are those who will say in leadership today, Thank 00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:50.819 you, Jesus, that you gave us those who will do 00:28:50.819 --> 00:28:55.339 that for us. And I find myself saying to my children 00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:58.740 what I wished somebody had said to me, what I 00:28:58.740 --> 00:29:03.680 say to you as also those in my care. Thank the 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.039 Lord for what you provoke in the body of Christ. 00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:13.299 Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I think as you're speaking, 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.779 this gets back to some of the other pet peeves, 00:29:15.819 --> 00:29:19.460 I would say, of us. And that when we say the 00:29:19.460 --> 00:29:21.740 words, we want revival, we want revival, what 00:29:21.740 --> 00:29:24.599 we're really sometimes saying is we want sameness. 00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.059 We want to go back to the good old days in the 00:29:28.059 --> 00:29:31.599 1970s and the Billy Graham crusades. But the 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:36.339 reality is we're in a season and an epoch of 00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:41.000 glory to glory. And if we had Jesus come again 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.720 the same old way, we'd have the same old problem 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.279 because we're not being converted into a new 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.039 level of glory. And the reality is when you say, 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.779 I want revival, are you creating an atmosphere? 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.059 Are you creating a surrounding space that invites 00:29:57.059 --> 00:30:00.559 your next generation, your kids and your grandkids 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.259 to be able to capture the essence of where God 00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:06.619 wants to take them into the heart of God, into 00:30:06.619 --> 00:30:09.980 feeling him? into seeing him, into saying on 00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:12.940 earth as it is in heaven? Or do you just want, 00:30:13.059 --> 00:30:15.240 at the end of the day, Christian nationalism 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.380 where we just have air quote righteousness, but 00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:19.940 we don't have hearts that have actually been 00:30:19.940 --> 00:30:22.839 turned? I want to ask you guys to give top tips. 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:25.720 It doesn't matter whether people are your age 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.799 or, you know, whether they're male or female. 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:34.779 What top tips? that you wish somebody had said 00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:39.319 to you that are those permission -giving things. 00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:45.900 And as your brains whirl, for me, it's the sense 00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:50.839 that if you have nobody in your life that says, 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.680 don't you dare retreat, let me be the one that 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.220 says that to you. We need the fullness of how 00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:03.150 God leads you. of how God speaks to you, of how 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:07.869 you encounter him. We need that as a provocation 00:31:07.869 --> 00:31:12.869 in the earth to remember that he's worth encountering, 00:31:12.869 --> 00:31:16.630 that he desires a people who will come and meet 00:31:16.630 --> 00:31:20.069 him heart to heart, that he might lead them glory 00:31:20.069 --> 00:31:24.579 to glory, for he is a God. of encounter he's 00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:28.440 a god whose great command is that he leaves the 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.119 spirit that we might be commanded not to read 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.799 about him but to fellowship with him not just 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.160 to manifest his gifts but to fellowship with 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.819 him not just to speak in tongues but to fellowship 00:31:38.819 --> 00:31:41.539 with him are you hearing that when the word of 00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:43.880 the lord you know talks about me that may the 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.700 love of god yeah And the grace of the Lord Jesus 00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:50.119 Christ and the fellowship of the Spirit be with 00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.920 you all now and evermore. That great grace that 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.539 we're asked to bring, that it is not that we 00:31:56.539 --> 00:32:00.640 neuter the Spirit on the earth into his gifts 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.420 or his fruit, but that the highest accolade or 00:32:04.420 --> 00:32:06.680 the highest command, the highest call there for 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.000 the portion of the Godhead who is the Spirit, 00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:13.259 is that you are in fellowship with him. So go 00:32:13.259 --> 00:32:17.559 be in fellowship. with them and go and show that 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.099 that is not hysterical it's biblical and we here 00:32:22.099 --> 00:32:25.680 in this classical context want to bless you to 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.720 remember your call and if everybody else says 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.440 oh I'm not sure about that let us be the ones 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.460 who say that is needed and that your provocation 00:32:37.460 --> 00:32:40.460 is where your well done is top tips gentlemen 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.759 I think one thing I would want to say to everyone 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.339 listening is that, yes, we are fighting for you 00:32:50.339 --> 00:32:53.160 now. And you can see us on your screens right 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.460 now or you can hear us in your ears. But also, 00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.519 if you have eyes to see, you will see that heaven 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.119 is around and about you. They are fighting for 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.650 you. And it is not just you. And even though 00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:10.430 you may feel alone and isolated, get around people 00:33:10.430 --> 00:33:13.730 like these guys to my right who will champion 00:33:13.730 --> 00:33:16.049 you. And that would be one of my main top tips. 00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:21.450 Find people that are like minded and do not settle 00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:26.349 for people that are less. I believe that an equally 00:33:26.349 --> 00:33:31.359 yoked thing is scripture in the Bible. is not 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.420 just for relationships as in man and wife, but 00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:41.000 also for good relationships. So find good relationships 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.400 and don't stop fighting for that. That is such 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.619 a precious thing, friends, where as soon as you 00:33:48.619 --> 00:33:52.299 find that and you have your people, you can go 00:33:52.299 --> 00:33:54.099 deeper. You know what it says where two or three 00:33:54.099 --> 00:33:56.660 are gathered together. Being gathered together 00:33:56.660 --> 00:33:59.500 means living with each other or not living with, 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.109 but... living in an amount amongst each other 00:34:03.109 --> 00:34:05.609 where you're rubbing up against each other, iron 00:34:05.609 --> 00:34:10.309 sharpening iron. Don't settle for any less of 00:34:10.309 --> 00:34:13.409 a relationship than that. And also another tip 00:34:13.409 --> 00:34:18.269 for me is find leaders that worship and worship 00:34:18.269 --> 00:34:22.610 undignified. And a shout out to David and Emma. 00:34:23.010 --> 00:34:27.480 David Stark is a man that... will worship the 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.039 Lord no matter where he is, no matter what church 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.820 setting. And that is so encouraging for any man, 00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:40.280 any woman, or any person looking going, am I 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.519 going to look like a fool? Or no, my leader's 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.219 already undignified because he wants to be so 00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:50.559 like the Lord. I mean, we have great leaders. 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.599 So that would be another top tip. Absolutely. 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.900 Yeah. I think a couple of things that I think, 00:34:56.900 --> 00:35:01.460 especially with the seer gift, number one, and 00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:03.219 I'm going to speak Gen Z language with this, 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.579 do not gaslight your own discernment. It starts 00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:09.800 there. We have to start in the place of there's 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.539 so many times, so many examples where you go 00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:15.380 into an atmosphere, you feel something that is 00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:17.699 discernment from the Lord. You say it can't be 00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:19.519 true. It can't be true. It can't be true. And 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.059 you gaslit your own discernment. I'm speaking 00:35:22.059 --> 00:35:24.000 to myself here because even in here, there's 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.500 moments. And at the same time, you pair that, 00:35:26.539 --> 00:35:29.320 though. This is the tension of Scripture. You 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.360 pair discernment. with still assuming the best 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:35.159 until proven otherwise. And that is a hard lesson. 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.000 You have to learn that of, I'm feeling this in 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.719 the atmosphere. I'm feeling accusation, or I'm 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.539 feeling Leviathan in the atmosphere, or maybe 00:35:43.539 --> 00:35:46.099 even using feeling is too much for you. Maybe 00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:50.139 you're seeing something. You're like, I see anger 00:35:50.139 --> 00:35:53.139 in the atmosphere, but no, I'm not going to partner 00:35:53.139 --> 00:35:55.420 with that. What you need to do is first start 00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:57.519 and say, okay, I'm feeling this, or I'm seeing 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.800 this, or I'm discerning this. Whichever language 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.400 best suits you, listener and viewer, start there 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.760 and then take it to the Lord and say, Lord, why? 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.039 What am I feeling? Am I feeling myself? Is there 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.980 something that I need to deal with with you? 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.199 Or am I feeling your heart? And then from that 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.039 place, there's three keys that one of my friends 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.429 that used to love me taught me, which is belief 00:36:22.429 --> 00:36:26.429 awareness and guarding your heart so first step 00:36:26.429 --> 00:36:30.750 into belief i believe i can encounter god come 00:36:30.750 --> 00:36:34.130 on yeah from that place of belief every day i 00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:36.889 have an opportunity to encounter him every moment 00:36:36.889 --> 00:36:39.550 okay now that i believe just simple belief and 00:36:39.550 --> 00:36:43.210 faith let me become aware where is jesus in the 00:36:43.210 --> 00:36:45.789 room where is the spirits in the room where is 00:36:45.789 --> 00:36:49.949 the angelic as i'm driving my car oh i I think 00:36:49.949 --> 00:36:52.650 I see a principality there, but I see God's angel 00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:55.889 here, and I see this angel warring against this. 00:36:55.949 --> 00:36:58.510 I see this messenger. Now I'm stepping into the 00:36:58.510 --> 00:37:01.289 awareness. And if you're wrestling where you 00:37:01.289 --> 00:37:03.989 can't see, you're not discerning, the third piece 00:37:03.989 --> 00:37:06.329 is the guarding your heart. How are you creating 00:37:06.329 --> 00:37:10.349 systems and rhythms of rest, protecting yourself 00:37:10.349 --> 00:37:12.329 so that you're walking in righteousness and keeping 00:37:12.329 --> 00:37:15.690 short accounts, walking in purity? Guarding your 00:37:15.690 --> 00:37:17.550 heart also includes being in your scripture, 00:37:17.710 --> 00:37:20.090 being in your word. But then also you need to 00:37:20.090 --> 00:37:22.250 get a notebook and you need to be writing down 00:37:22.250 --> 00:37:24.909 what you're hearing from God. Sometimes that's 00:37:24.909 --> 00:37:27.530 a simple one -liner and he says, this is what 00:37:27.530 --> 00:37:29.010 you're dealing with in the atmosphere. And you're 00:37:29.010 --> 00:37:30.690 just getting that one -liner and you're writing 00:37:30.690 --> 00:37:33.869 it down. But sometimes it's a novel and you don't 00:37:33.869 --> 00:37:35.550 know until you just start to write out, this 00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:37.329 is what I'm seeing. And then you're asking the 00:37:37.329 --> 00:37:40.860 questions. Why am I seeing this? Who is this 00:37:40.860 --> 00:37:44.119 addressed to? Okay, why am I seeing this thing 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.099 swirl around Emma? Lord, what is that thing swirling 00:37:47.099 --> 00:37:48.760 around Emma? What do I need to do with that? 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.639 Do I need to let her know of it? Do I need to 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.059 talk to her intercessors? And you're starting 00:37:53.059 --> 00:37:57.199 to engage now with God, with the heavenly hosts 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:58.800 now, where you're starting to partner with the 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.179 Holy Spirit. And that's where I would say that 00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:03.400 you can start to step into deeper levels of being 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.269 a seer. Very good. Gentlemen, you have richly 00:38:07.269 --> 00:38:09.690 blessed our audience today. Thank you very much. 00:38:09.769 --> 00:38:17.329 And I'm full of ideas in terms of programs for 00:38:17.329 --> 00:38:19.889 the next generation. I think you guys need to 00:38:19.889 --> 00:38:21.949 put your heads together to run. But anyway, thank 00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:24.349 you very much, loyal listeners, for joining us 00:38:24.349 --> 00:38:28.179 for this episode of What the Prophets Say. Hello, 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.940 friends. I've got something exciting to share 00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:33.980 with you. 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