1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,920 In this episode of What the Prophet Say, join me, Emma Stark and Mr. Sam Robertson as we 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:17,280 continue our mini-series, this is session two on the prophetic and we look at the need 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,440 to keep prophesying extensively over individuals. 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,160 God needs your voice. 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Join us for this episode of What the Prophet Say. 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Hello loyal listeners and welcome to another episode of What the Prophet Say with me, Emma 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Stark and Sam Robertson. 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:44,040 We are delighted that you are lending us your ears and I hope more than your ears, but 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,440 we'll start with your ears. 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,240 We're not to tickle your ears, but we are here to put the word of the Lord in robustly 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,840 that it might transform your life, but we appreciate that you give time to this and 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,800 we are back in the studio coffee, water, cakes have been consumed, although you don't 13 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,040 like sweet things. 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Well, yes, although confession since marrying Bella because she loves sweet things, but 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,360 I don't know if it's a wife thing or if it's a Bella thing she likes to share a dessert. 16 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Oh yes. 17 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,640 I hadn't quite realised this and sharing a dessert is a big deal and they shall not 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,520 refuse sharing a dessert. 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,520 Well done Bella. 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,480 I've shared a few, still not my favourite, but I am partial to the occasional dessert 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,480 now. 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Now what would you go for if like Bella's choosing and you're like, oh, don't choose 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,880 that but choose that. 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,880 What would you go for? 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Nothing cakey. 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,800 I don't like anything like, I don't know, like a carrot cake or chocolate cake or a 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,800 red velvet cake. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,800 Nothing like that. 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,800 It's too dense. 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,720 I like a creme brulee or something like that. 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Or what's the coffee one? 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Tiramisu. 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Yeah, I don't mind that. 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,200 You can get those done horrendously. 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Yeah, you can't get horrendously. 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Yeah, you see, I don't like damp spuns. 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,720 But that's what I mean. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,720 If it's really... 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,440 It has to be nicely done. 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Yeah, they put lady finger biscuits in that, don't they? 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,880 But they do just not as well. 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Yes, having made a few tiramisu's in my life, I actually saw a recipe for pistachio tiramisu. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 If you made something pistachio, that is my new obsession. 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,560 What was it? 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Anything pistachio flavoured. 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Sorry, I'm getting excited. 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:24,720 We went to those epic hotel for our honeymoon and they did so many in Mauritius. 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Pistachios are popular and they did so much pistachio desserts. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,560 It's gorgeous. 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,560 And it was the best time of my life. 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Oh, well, it was your honeymoon. 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,720 But I'm glad the food was good as well. 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,840 But you know what I just had? 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Talking of pistachios, in Copenhagen in Denmark, David and I had a half kind of day off while 55 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,640 we waited for the airplane home and we went down the walking street. 56 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:51,160 It's literally called the walking street, but in Danish. 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 And we had pistachio croissants. 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Were they good? 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Yes. 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,520 So like a pistachio, you know, like an almond crust, you get the almond paste in it, but 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,880 like a frangipane in the middle of it. 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,840 But this was like a pistachio cream down the middle. 63 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Very, very good. 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Yeah, I'd like that. 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Yeah. 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 And then I had a pistachio, the best pastry I had two weeks ago. 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,880 The best pastry I have ever had was in Amsterdam, in the Netherlands. 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Yeah. 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,920 Louise Reed and I went in to shop. 70 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,840 Oh, my PA is jumping around the other side of the glass. 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,800 That was with me because she took us there. 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,240 What did I have, Suzanne? 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,520 I'm told you. 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,520 I can't. 75 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,000 I think it was an almond croissant I had. 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,120 I think it was the best I'd ever tasted. 77 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,560 But overnight she's doing the thumbs up behind the glass. 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,720 This is, we're going to call them the class behind the glass. 79 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,520 The class behind the glass. 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,520 And that's Todd, producer Todd, broadcast manager, Roz and my PA, Suzanne. 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,520 There we go. 82 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,520 The laughing. 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,040 We can't hear what they're saying. 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,600 I hope we've introduced them right. 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,600 The class behind the glass. 86 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:09,840 So, but it sounds like we're just obsessed with food, but good pastries are a delight. 87 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Yeah, they are a delight. 88 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,880 They are hard to come by. 89 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Good ones are hard to come by. 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Yeah, flaky pastries. 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Good. 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,880 I don't make pastry. 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,880 No one's got time for that. 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,880 No, no way. 95 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Have you ever made pastry? 96 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Oh, no. 97 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Have you, how the length of time? 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Oh, it's a faff. 99 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,400 It's a total faff. 100 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Oh, why me? 101 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Yeah, pre-bought pastry. 102 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Always. 103 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Yeah, I buy a fair amount of puff pastry to make gatos and tart scones. 104 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,560 I'm not in a good place with you. 105 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Anyway, not that we have sorted out the world with pistachio. 106 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,320 I hope you're not too hungry with puff pastry. 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,320 We're on a bit of a mini series and we're certainly doing three in a row around the 108 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,920 prophetic and a real call to arms and a call to action. 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:54,000 And last time we were in this, the, I suppose semi rebuking to ourselves as much as to 110 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 anybody else. 111 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,720 If the caliber of the prophetic word is not there, then you've got nothing to fight or 112 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,960 to war over. 113 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,320 And if the word is not good enough to fight over, what is the point of it being released 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,320 in the first place? 115 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:13,080 If it's an ego massage word or it's just a, you know, make me look good in front of my 116 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,160 pals type word, what is the point? 117 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,240 But Sam, this is quite serious. 118 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:26,320 I was reading the word of God about, well, is it three, four weeks ago? 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,800 I've lost track of time, certainly at the beginning of 2024. 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,480 And I was thinking about what I would preach at start the year right. 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:40,640 And I find myself back in Ezekiel 37, which is a very well worn, very well known scripture 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,080 is Ezekiel and the Valley of the Dry Bones. 123 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:51,160 And I had a moment, I think almost a once in a lifetime moment. 124 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Come on listeners. 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,320 This is really important. 126 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:59,240 A once in a lifetime moment of revelation in Ezekiel 37. 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,440 I feel Sanderson, my dear friend who pastors in Aberdeen, he says, it's the most important 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 word he thinks I've prophesied in a decade. 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,480 So it's of that level of understanding. 130 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,640 And we're, you and I and the team here are just sitting in it and trying to wrestle with 131 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,640 it. 132 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:27,360 It's a word of direction and movement and uplifting of the prophetic movement worldwide 133 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,480 into another era. 134 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:35,800 So if I've done in any way a good job, you'll be able to give me the introduction to just 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,560 put you on this spot. 136 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,640 But it's interesting to hear it through your voice. 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,560 And then we'll see as we wrestle together where we are with it. 138 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,080 So on your marks, get set, Sam. 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Go. 140 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,400 So a bit of history into the word that kind of takes us on a journey to what is ahead. 141 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Bishop Bill Hammond, a hero of the prophetic movement, father of the prophetic movement, 142 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,760 launched probably the reintroduction of prophets in prophecy into the world. 143 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:15,040 And he's the guy who would have lined up entire rooms of hundreds of people and giving 144 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,240 them personal prophetic words. 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Anybody who prophesies and anybody who has any level of significant prophetic ministry 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,880 will be able to somehow acknowledge Bishop Bill Hammond and what he birthed. 147 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,920 So we're talking what, 50, 60 years ago? 148 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,600 50, 60 years ago. 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,560 And the first wave of prophets, first wave of prophecy. 150 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,880 His son, Tim Hammond, maybe about five years ago, maybe more. 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Maybe more. 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Yeah. 153 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Tim would be maybe now in his 60s, I would have thought. 154 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,840 So kind of five to 10 years ago, started to prophesy about the second portion, second 155 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,240 wave, second breath of the prophetic movement. 156 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Yeah. 157 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,360 I think he might have called it the second wind. 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Second wind. 159 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,160 And others like Barbara Yoder and others like Art Senderjee. 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,960 We're prophesying the same thing. 161 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,640 And so really they get this from Ezekiel 37. 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,200 So can we just say there's been wave one or first breath or second breath, first wind, 163 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,280 second wind. 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:24,320 So two stages of the worldwide prophetic movement. 165 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:30,240 In our last kind of two, three generations, restoration is a prophetic movement. 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,520 And remember that the prophetic movement had to be restored because in the Reformation 167 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:42,800 500 years ago plus, there was a real sense of a dishonoring, I think just not an understanding 168 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 that there needed to be prophecy and prophets. 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:51,920 So you do get a lot of truth, but you also get spiritual sterility with that. 170 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:57,040 You get a sense of impotence in the prophetic word because it's just not given a place 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,280 or a value. 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,880 So you're almost living under the cloak or the hood of the Reformation, which is giving 173 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,560 a value for salvation by faith, which is giving a value for the centrality of the cross and 174 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:10,560 Christ. 175 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:18,120 So no value for really the work of the spirit or the work of the Revelation at all. 176 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:24,160 So by the time Bishop Bill turns up with wave one and then his son, Dr. Tim prophesies 177 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:32,680 wave two, we are in water, shallow waters because there had been no Revelation for years. 178 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,640 This really matters what we are. 179 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,560 Now, it is with it. 180 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:39,200 So Ezekiel 37. 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,840 You have the first wave, seven to eight in verses seven to eight. 182 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:50,840 So that first introduction of prophets and of prophecy birthed by Bishop Bill Hammond 183 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:57,800 and then taken throughout the world, mainly about personal prophecy, call outs, prophetic 184 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,280 prensperty is the phrase some of you will have heard. 185 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:06,000 And it says this, So I prophesied I was commanded and as I was prophesy, there was a noise and 186 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,200 a rattling sound and the bones came together bone to bone. 187 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,320 I looked and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was 188 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,000 no breath in them. 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,360 So you see this first breath, which is about form. 190 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,600 There is a form of prophets and prophecy that's valuable. 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:31,400 And so that is where that took us up to those three decades, 30 years. 192 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,960 You then have in verse 10, the introduction of the second wind, the second breath. 193 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:42,680 So this is Ezekiel prop being told to prophesy a second time to the same army. 194 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:47,480 And it says, So I prophesied as he commanded me and breath entered them. 195 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,400 They came to life and stood up on their feet, a vast army. 196 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,360 And this is the military mindedness of the prophets and of the prophetic women. 197 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,840 And you who have been joining with us for some time know that we love this stuff. 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,480 It's the nitty gritty of tearing down the kingdoms of darkness and planting the kingdom 199 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,480 of God. 200 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,960 It is spiritual warfare. 201 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,880 It is that when you prophesy, things get destroyed and the kingdom gets built. 202 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 That understanding comes so form and function. 203 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 We see these in the first and second breath. 204 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,040 Now actually they are brilliant things. 205 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Both those almost taken half a lifetime for most of us to wrestle with those two breaths. 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:35,240 And so the first breath is, I can prophesy and you are looking for, since it's a widespread 207 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:42,200 value of the prophet, you're palatable, it's entry level, it's about personal ministry. 208 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Find the gold. 209 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,200 Find the gold. 210 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,840 You're avoiding danger. 211 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,280 You're avoiding timings. 212 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,560 You're avoiding judgment. 213 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,240 You're avoiding shaking. 214 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,960 It's all in relatively shallow but very necessary waters. 215 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,800 You can't get into the deep waters unless you go through the shallow waters. 216 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:05,160 So we don't reject or as the word of God would say, you don't despise the day of small beginnings 217 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,040 because it's the door that opens. 218 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,520 So it's this individual words endless. 219 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,520 We train there. 220 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,440 You and I train there. 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,440 Endless individual words. 222 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,960 Growing the muscle. 223 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Encouraging the bride. 224 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:27,280 All demonstrations, lots and lots of that for decades. 225 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Absolutely. 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,520 And I remember, I mean, how many of you, we would prophesy well into the small hours of 227 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,360 the morning because it was all day, every day, just personal ministry. 228 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,360 It was all we ever knew about prophecy in many regards. 229 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,800 The thought of a national word or a word to the masses was way off in the distance. 230 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Yes. 231 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,600 It was really that prophecy was given to secure the individual. 232 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Prophesy secured the person that you were out working a focus on individual blessing. 233 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Absolutely. 234 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,320 So, I mean, you would have people in the early days who would fast and pray to come to receive 235 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,160 a personal word and then they would receive the personal word with fear and trembling. 236 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:14,040 I remember prophets preaching in those days, maybe some of you listeners do too. 237 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,520 They would spend hours teaching you how to receive your personal word because nobody 238 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,680 had ever really got one before. 239 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:26,720 So you fast pray, receive you, go and you write it out, you diligently weigh it and 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,400 test it and decades of that. 241 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:40,440 And you and I, we reckon, have done probably about 30,000 hours of personal prophetic ministry. 242 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,440 Absolutely. 243 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,440 Yeah. 244 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Absolutely. 245 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,440 And that's where we trained. 246 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,440 That's what we trained in. 247 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,440 Yes. 248 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,400 We taught people and still do the value for that. 249 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,400 And when you hear this first, second, third, you need all of the breaths as we continue. 250 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,720 So it's not that there's not a value for that anymore, but there's added aspects. 251 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,720 Yes. 252 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 But this is, I actually think this is where God trusts you with his voice. 253 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Yes. 254 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,920 When he can trust you with an individual. 255 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Yes. 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,600 And just as an aside, lots of people say, you know, how can I level up in prophecy? 257 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,400 How can I come to a greater level, you know, you and Emma, are you, you know, you guys 258 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,440 prophesied so accurately or you prophesied with such weight? 259 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:27,440 I think we would personally cite it to the decade plus of for here when we were Glasgow 260 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,320 prophetic center, prophetic checkups of the hours and hours and hours of the giving of 261 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,320 personal words. 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,800 I think the giving of the personal words, because now we're looking at breath two and 263 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:45,720 breath three and this was in the first breath, there is a sense that I watch some folk, not 264 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,720 everybody. 265 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,400 I just want to get to the big platform. 266 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,080 I just want to get to the, you know, the net. 267 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:58,120 I want to get and actually what I watch if you miss the rigors of I'm going to prophesy 268 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,600 form, which is form function and then awakening of the army. 269 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:11,080 But the first stage, you know, find the gold stuff, you lose the capability to love. 270 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Absolutely. 271 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,800 Because when you are faced with hundreds and hundreds of individuals, they will, if you 272 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,600 don't find the right attitude, drain you and where you are. 273 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:28,400 And it forces your heart to choose to love people well, that they are worthy of investment 274 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,240 of your time. 275 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:38,520 And the sense of I want to use people to get to where I want to go versus I'm going to 276 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:44,320 go through the rigors of the discipline of ours of personal prophetic ministry. 277 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,520 And I still find great joy in it. 278 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 I'll give you an example. 279 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 And I was in wherever I was somewhere in mainland Europe. 280 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,720 And again, we had a couple of hours. 281 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:01,800 We dashed into have a wee bit of a look around the city and we were overseas and we'd find 282 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,080 a lovely jewelry shop. 283 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,160 And of course, of course, priorities. 284 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,120 And no, it very deliberately wasn't an accidental find. 285 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,640 It was deliberately the earrings and the necklace I'm wearing. 286 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Anyway, walking and and with Louise Reed and with Suzanne and really we're just bobbing 287 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,400 along chatting about jewelry. 288 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,360 But the spirit of the Lord rose up in me for personal prophetic ministry. 289 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:36,920 And as soon as I felt that urgency to minister to the shop assistant, the shop emptied. 290 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,680 I saw an angel guard that very busy to be fair. 291 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,520 It may have been my third or fourth trip to this shop over the years. 292 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,720 So I know how busy it is. 293 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,680 And an angel of the Lord stood at the door so that the shop was not I could see it. 294 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,000 And I'm thinking, oh, the God has curated a moment. 295 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,840 I need to be vigilant here. 296 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:05,480 The word came up out of me like a machine gun of passionate and liberation and love 297 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,480 for this woman. 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,480 She's wailing. 299 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,480 She's coughing up her demons. 300 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,200 I'm like, come out from behind that counter. 301 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,600 I'm laying hands on her. 302 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,680 She's literally doing deliverance ministry with me there on the spot falling in love 303 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,680 with Jesus. 304 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,520 The word Lord, you trained to be an interior designer. 305 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,160 You have never used the fullness of this. 306 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,880 You got rejected in your early teeth. 307 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,960 I mean, it was so specific to her life. 308 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,560 How could she not fall in love with Jesus? 309 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:39,840 But the joy for me in that of, I love that thing of finding somebody and just bringing 310 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:48,080 that first breath of putting form back into the shape of God and introducing them to the 311 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,760 person of Jesus. 312 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,400 And it was so easy. 313 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,400 Absolutely. 314 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,400 It doesn't have to be hard. 315 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,680 You know, the amount of times I'll be in a room ministering and often happens and God 316 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,360 says at the end of this, I want you to prophesy over as many people as you can. 317 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,600 And I think really because that can sometimes be draining. 318 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,160 It can be very tiring. 319 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:13,520 But I did it recently and found such an energy of the spirit that came up in me. 320 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,120 And it was partly God saying, I need you to do this because it's how you're trusted. 321 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:22,240 Actually if you don't do this, then I can't trust you with more revelation. 322 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,080 But there's a sharpness, even more than just the fun of it. 323 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,720 It brings a sharpness to you when you have to deal with different people, different 324 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,960 situations when you prophesy over countless amounts of individual lives. 325 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,760 You're dealing with countless amounts of dangers or crisis or issues or pain. 326 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,760 They're anointing. 327 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:47,520 You need to find a way to articulate the spirit of God and to articulate what you're seeing 328 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,040 and feeling and sensing in a way that leads people helpfully into their future. 329 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,480 And it keeps you sharp. 330 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,480 It does. 331 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,560 The discipline of personal ministry cannot ever be lost, I don't think. 332 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,560 From that. 333 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:06,120 And of course that was what Bishop Bill Hammond and actually the Kansas City Prophets as well. 334 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:11,960 They were active at the same time in a slightly different stream in the USA. 335 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:17,320 And most of the prophecy that we were trained in was either from Bishop Bill and Christian 336 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,120 International or from the Kansas City guys. 337 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:25,520 And that of course, massively influential around the world. 338 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:34,240 So number one, if you missed the first breath and you've not got the rigors of finding people 339 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,120 to prophesy over it, you have to get it back. 340 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,640 Now, I think we can get lazy. 341 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,760 Oh, I don't have a platform. 342 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,000 I don't have a space. 343 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,400 You just find people and you just minister to them, you know, like wherever it happens 344 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,920 to be, the Julie shop, the whatever. 345 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,480 The other one I did, I actually prophesied over somebody what night would it have been, 346 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 what day is it today, Sam? 347 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Wednesday. 348 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,760 It's Wednesday. 349 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,000 And I was, it was Saturday night, very late. 350 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,440 I come back to the hotel after ministering very, very late. 351 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,080 And I was, you know, you're a long day tired and there was somebody in the lobby and the 352 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,960 spirit of God was like, you need to minister. 353 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,400 And you know that way you're going, oh, man, really. 354 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:21,280 And David and I just got hold of them and they had the reception. 355 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,840 It was the receptionist and this guy and David and I, 12 minutes. 356 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,360 I said, get your phone. 357 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:28,480 I'm going to tell you what God says. 358 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,120 The person was stunned whether they wanted it or not. 359 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,120 They were quite a bit. 360 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:34,120 They got it. 361 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:43,280 A total like moment of a life change in the foyer of the hotel reception late, late at 362 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,280 night. 363 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:52,720 And that kind of like, I don't need to be invited or in ministry mode formalized. 364 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,720 Absolutely. 365 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Absolutely. 366 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,240 Now they then find me on Facebook or Insta, I think, and they've written a comment to 367 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,760 us of how it's changed their world. 368 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,920 This kind of like drive by approach to prophecy. 369 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Prophecy. 370 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,920 Yeah. 371 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,720 And as we talk about the next breath, what you need to hear is you never graduate from 372 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,120 personal prophetic ministry. 373 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:21,880 God trusts you with more revelation, with the higher levels of revelation, but you never 374 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,240 graduate from it. 375 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,160 You never become superior than personal prophetic ministry. 376 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Yeah. 377 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:35,640 I think we're going to leave you on a cliff edge of that, of the need to get into the 378 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,280 rhythm of that first breath. 379 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,200 And next session, we're going to dive into breath two and breath three. 380 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,480 Breath three, nobody has spoken about publicly before as far as we know. 381 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,120 And so we're, we are, I think we're a wee bit rattled. 382 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:54,520 And we're still trying to wrestle, you know, this revelation. 383 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:02,640 But the first breath is that you individually demonstrate the kingdom of God in somebody's 384 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:10,520 life and that you make the prophetic accessible and you encourage and raise up and create 385 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,480 the horizon line in people's lives. 386 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:20,720 If you still have that as a theory, not as the day to speak out loud, I will become a 387 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,080 greater practitioner of this. 388 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:32,360 And even as I'm wrestling, as is my call, words over nations, I still find the thrill 389 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:41,480 of a late night reception prophecy or a jewelry shop prophecy, even in the last 10 days, knowing 390 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,960 that I can change a nation, but I still don't lose the skill of changing an individual by 391 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,960 love. 392 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,360 And my concern here, me well is if you don't get this, I don't think you learn the art 393 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,360 of loving people well. 394 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:57,360 There is. 395 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,360 Wow. 396 00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,360 Wow. 397 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:00,360 Wow. 398 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:01,360 That was a cliff. 399 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:02,360 That was a fire. 400 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:05,440 You've got homework, my friends. 401 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,440 First breath is E.K. 402 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,960 37, putting prophetic form in your life. 403 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Well, thank you for joining us. 404 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Join us again for the next episode of What the Prophets Say. 405 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Thank you for listening to this episode of What the Prophets Say with me, Emma Stark. 406 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,880 If you would like to go deeper with us, you would be very welcome to join our network, 407 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,880 the Global Prophetic Alliance. 408 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,480 You can find that at propheticscots.com, where we have 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