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Once again, I'd like to welcome you to the Quality

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Christian Living Podcast. I am your host, David

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Friend. Today's topic is why the Holy Spirit

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knows God's will, and how does he know it, and

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how can we know God's will, and how does the

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Holy Spirit reveal to us the will of God? We're

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going to look at what is the benefit of yielding

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to God's will, and is God's will easy to discover?

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So, we're going to cover all that, but first,

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let's pray. Thank you, Lord, for your goodness.

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I pray blessing upon this podcast. I ask the

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Holy Spirit to come in now, take control and

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do what only he can do, lead, guide, direct and

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anoint. And I pray that the Holy Spirit would

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help those who are listening in today, for those

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who are wondering about God's will and wondering

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how the Holy Spirit interacts with God's will

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in our life. Whatever their questions or concerns

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might be, I pray that you would bless them and

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that they would receive exactly what you have

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for them, what you desire for them. Thank you

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Lord again for this opportunity. I'll be careful

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to give you praise for all great things that

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take place. Give you all honor and glory. In

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Jesus name I pray. Amen. Let me just start off

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with a question. Have you ever wondered what

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God's will is for something in your life? Maybe

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something specific, you know, just as a decision

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you're trying to make or maybe trying to decide

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to buy or sell a house or a car or job change

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or maybe someone that you're dating or someone

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you're really serious about and wondering is

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this going to lead to marriage? Whatever it is,

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you want to know God's will, but so you've got

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to question that's very common we all face these

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things and all of us have wondered about that

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we've all had a time in our life where we've

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wondered and just said Lord is this the way to

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go should I do this should I do that should I

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do this first and do that second whatever it

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might be well we don't have to wonder about that

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we can understand through the Word of God and

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the anointing of the Holy Spirit exactly how

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we should deal with God's will and to get to

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understand that we've got to understand how the

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Holy Spirit knows God's will you see Remember,

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we're Christians, and as fathers of the Lord

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Jesus Christ, we have the Holy Spirit living

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and dwelling in us. And because of that, we've

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got an advantage, obviously, on those people

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who've not given their life to Christ. We have

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the advantage of the Holy Spirit living and dwelling

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in us, so we need to seek Him and ask for His

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direction. Now, even the great Apostle Paul had

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questions about knowing and doing God's will.

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You know, there's a scripture that he talked

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about, and I've used it before in podcasts. I'm

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going to just use it again. He basically is saying

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this. He's saying, you know, there's times that

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I'm doing things that I know I shouldn't do.

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I'm doing the things that I don't want to do.

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And even though I know I shouldn't do them, even

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while I'm doing them, I know it's wrong. But

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he says, I still do them anyway. Why is it? Why

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does that happen? So Paul was wondering, how

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can he do God's will? How can he have the directions

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that he needed? And he ran to the Holy Spirit

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for guidance, for direction, for wisdom, for

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knowledge. You know, another one of my scriptures,

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one of my favorite scriptures dealing with this

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issue of how the Holy Spirit knows God's will

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is found in Romans chapter seven in verses nine,

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19 I think through 25 in the New Living Translation.

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Now this is a longer scripture than I usually

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read, but it's vital to this podcast. Therefore,

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let's read Romans chapter seven verses 19 through

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25 in the New Living Translation. And of course,

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this is the scripture that I talked about a second

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ago, but we gotta read a little bit more than

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just what I talked about. Here's Paul talking

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once again in Romans chapter seven. verse 19.

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I want to do what is good, but I don't. I don't

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want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway.

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Verse 20. But if I do what I don't want to do,

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I am not really the one doing wrong. It is sin

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living in me that does it. Well, you know, we

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should stop there for a second. You know, when

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we're under attack and we're doing something

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we shouldn't do, or we have thoughts we shouldn't

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have, or we're taking actions we shouldn't take,

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we should immediately be ready to understand.

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That's what Paul's saying here. He knows where

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it's coming from. It's sin. It's the Holy Spirit

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wanting to bring into our life and wants to increase

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the sin maybe that we're still struggling with

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in our life. And so we immediately identify that.

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So therefore we can rebuke the devil and say,

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I take authority over you in Jesus' name. I rebuke

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that thought. I'm not allow that to come back

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into my mind. And that's what Paul understood

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that he knew to take authority over the sin that

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tried to get into, you know, in our lives. In

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verse 21, he says this, I have discovered this

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principle of life that when I want to do what

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is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. Verse

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22, I love God's law with all my heart, but there

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is another power within me that is at war in

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my mind. This power makes me a slave to sin that

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is still within me. Verse 24, oh, what a miserable

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person I am. Now, it's hard to imagine Paul saying

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that, but he was a regular person, quite frankly,

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just like you and I, who will free me from this

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life that is dominated by sin and death. Verse

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25, thank God. Here we go, here we go. Here's

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the answer. is in. Christ Jesus, our Lord. So

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you see how it is. In my mind, I really want

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to obey God's law, but because of my sinful nature,

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I am a slave to sin. You know, he goes on to

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talk about, in Romans chapter eight, about power

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of the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit's

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the one that has to lead us. And so he follows

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up with what I just read with eight chapter,

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let's see, Romans chapter eight, verse one. So

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now there is no condemnation for those who belong

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to Christ Jesus. Now isn't that powerful? He

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talked about all of his challenges. He talked

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about all the things he was going through, like

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we all go through some of the difficult times

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that we have, and yet he jumps right back on

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his walk with God and says this. He says, so

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now there is no condemnation. He says, for those

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who belong to Jesus Christ, that means for those

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who are followers of Jesus Christ, he was just

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confirming to himself what he knew was to be

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the truth. He says, and because you belong to

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him, the power, listen to this, of the life -giving

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spirit has freed you from the power of sin. that

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leads to death. So that kind of wraps up that

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part of this podcast. It's so important to understand

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we all battle issues in our mind. There's a battle

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over our thoughts, a battle over what goes into

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our heart. And we've got to take authority over

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that in the name of Jesus and declare God's promises

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for every area of our life. And that's what Paul

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was saying. He said, oh, I've had these problems.

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I'm fighting these problems. I'm going through

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these problems. He says, but I've got something

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going. You know, it's so wonderful that God's

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Word says, greater is he that is in you than

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he that is in the world. Well, so that's an example

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of the Holy Spirit knowing God's will for us.

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Now how does this all tie into the Holy Spirit

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knowing God's will? Because the Holy Spirit is

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God. The Holy Spirit is Jesus. Because they are

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all part of the triune Godhead. God the Father,

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God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Only one

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God. But in three direct personalities, three

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specific purposes for Christians. Now here are

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a couple of scriptural examples I think that

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will help us in understanding the Holy Spirit

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knows God's will. In 1st Corinthians chapter

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2 and verse 9 in the New Living Testament, listen

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to this. No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and

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no mind has imagined what God has prepared for

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those who love Him. That's a powerful statement

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to understand that God has a will for us, a plan

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for us, a purpose for us, and in our life we've

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got to work towards what Paul was saying. I know

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there's no condemnation in me because Christ

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has taken that away when He gave His life for

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me and I became a follower of the Lord Jesus

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Christ. There's no longer any condemnation over

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my mind or my thoughts. And that opens us up

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to understand the will of God, to receive the

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will of God. And then 1 Corinthians 2 .9, Paul

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writes again, and he says, basically, no one's

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ever seen this, no one's ever heard it. But what

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God has prepared for those who love Him, He wants

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us to operate here on earth in our plan, our

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purpose, and in His will. And the Holy Spirit

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is the only way that we can do that. We can't

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operate in God's will and not have a relationship

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with the Holy Spirit on an ongoing basis. Look

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at another scripture here. that's wonderful.

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1 Corinthians chapter 2 verses 10 and 11 in the

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New Living Translation. But it was to us that

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revealed these things by His Spirit, for His

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Spirit searches out everything and shows us that

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God has deep secrets, or that God has deep secrets.

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What's important about that scripture is it's

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telling us that the word of God is going to reveal

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to us God's secrets, and God's secrets, to some

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people think it's God's will is one of those.

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Well, it is of a secret to God until the Holy

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Spirit helps us to receive God's will and understand

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his will in our life and therefore he reveals

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the Holy Spirit helps reveal the deep things

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of God and the power of God that's to operate

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in followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Let me

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just digress for a second. This reading is just

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so wonderful. I'm kind of getting excited about

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it. I'm the energy that I believe the Lord has

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placed in me to help people understand how to

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understand their God's will for their life and

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God's promises for them and that even the deep

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secrets that he has for them, that I want to

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emphasize what Paul's teaching was. First we

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started off with Paul having problems. He was

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struggling, right? And then we understand that

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Paul is now directing us towards the Holy Spirit,

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understanding exactly how we can overcome these

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things. Then we read that Paul is telling us

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that no one can possibly understand what's going

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on except God can reveal those things to us.

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And then we get into 1 Corinthians chapter 2,

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verse 10 and 11. And remember 10 was, but it

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was to us that God reveals these things by His

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Spirit, for His Spirit searches out everything

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and shows us God's deep secrets. But let's stay

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with us now. Verse 11, no one can know a person's

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thought except that person's own spirit. And

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no one can know God's thoughts except God's own

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spirit. Here we go. Here we go. That's how we

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know God's will, through the spirit. And we have

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received God's spirit, not in the world's spirit.

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So we can know the wonderful things God has freely

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given us. We just continue to get more and more

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strength about understanding that God has a great

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plan. God has a purpose for us. has great things

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planned for us, and part of that is to operate

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in His will. See, as we operate in His will,

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then it'll open up the promises of God, the deep

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things that God has promised for us, if we operate

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in His will. Oh, help us, Lord, to understand

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how crucial it is to know God's will and then

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to operate in that will. Now, in 1st Corinthians

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chapter 2 and verse 12, it says, we receive the

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Holy Spirit. I just read that a second ago. We

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receive the Holy Spirit so we can know, we can

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know the wonderful things that God has freely

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given us. I want to repeat that scripture one

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more time just because it's so important to understand

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that, yes, we will know, especially to some people

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who might be listening and saying, I just cannot

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seem to get over the hump to understand what

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my purpose is in life and what God's will is

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for me in my life. And what's God's will is for

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me in various things I'm involved with. Well,

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Paul's helping us with that. He's getting us

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to understand that we have received God's Spirit.

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So because of that, we will know. what God has

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planned to give us, what He freely gives us.

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And then in 2 Corinthians chapter 13 and verse

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14, in the New Living Translation, Paul continues

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to write, listen to this, Paul's final greeting

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to the church in Corinth. Listen to this, may

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the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love

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of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit

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be with you. Now, he's saying this at the very

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end of his talking there, of his expressions

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that he had, the Holy Spirit led him to speak.

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And he's basically telling us that we got understand

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that that God's grace is what allows us to have

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communion with the Holy Spirit and have communion

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with power of God himself and that God's grace

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was submitted to us through the sacrifice of

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his son, Jesus. And by sacrificing his son, he

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showed how much he loved us and showed how much

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he wants to have grace for us to forgive us of

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our sins. And it says, so Christ, the love of

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God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit is

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what he wants all of us to have. The fellowship

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of the Holy Spirit. The fellowship of the Holy

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Spirit. That's how we know God's will. We have

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fellowship. We have relationship. We have daily

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contact with the Holy Spirit in our life. and

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we avoid just trying to do things on our own,

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going in the direction that we think is fine

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and then hoping that it turns out alright. No,

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we don't do things that way. As Christians, we've

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got to just surrender to the Holy Spirit, seek

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God's Word for guidance and direction, pray daily

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in some manner or another. I'm not saying 12

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hours a day, I'm just saying you should have

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a time of prayer each day to communicate with

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God and ask the Holy Spirit to lead and guide

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and direct us. And all that comes together so

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we will understand that the Holy Spirit knows

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God's will and he reveals that to us as we follow

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him. Now in John 14 26 in the New Living Translation

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here's something else that was written this time

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by John. It tells us that the Holy Spirit teaches

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us and reminds us of what Jesus said. So once

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again we learn a little bit of something from

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another apostle who said who you know John is

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saying hey I I understand now there's the Holy

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Spirit that's teaching me and remind me of what

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Jesus said so therefore once again surrender

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to the Holy Spirit have fellowship with the Holy

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Spirit, have communion with the Holy Spirit on

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a daily basis, and he will... Reveal God's will

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and help us to understand God's purpose for our

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life. The Holy Spirit helps us with our life

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and our relationship with Almighty God. I'm gonna

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read that again. I wrote that down to share that

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somewhere in this podcast and I felt like it

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came up at the right time. The Holy Spirit helps

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us with our life. Okay, that's the first part

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of it and our relationship with Almighty God

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and he does that through our relationship with

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the Holy Spirit. Okay, I've spent about the first

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half of this podcast maybe a little bit more

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than the first half of this podcast talking about

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how to know God's will. And one of the reasons

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I did that is that we've got to understand the

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consequences of not doing God's will when we

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know to do His will. Now I told you a story in

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a prior podcast about when we were living in

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a little town called Sierra Vista. God had called

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us into ministry and called me specifically into

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preaching and I felt the power of God. But I

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also had a career going with the bank and I wanted

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to make enough money so I could support my family

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and I was afraid. to go into ministry at that

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time because I felt like I'm just too young.

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I got to first get my career going and it was

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all out of God's will. I mean, I was making all

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these decisions on my own. So we ran up to Tucson

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and I got another job that was helped building

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my career. And I left the church where God was

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talking to us so strongly and dealing with us

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and helping with us and the church exploded and

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was growing. But we left there and went to another

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location. Well, I was out of God's will. And

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during that whole time that we were in Tucson,

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it was miserable. My boss was a terrible person

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to work for. like the city that much. We didn't

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enjoy it at all. Just the whole confusion of

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the community was there were people who were

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talking about things that were anti -God and

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there were people I knew in business there. I

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met more ungodly people than at any other time

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during my banking career. And Lord, you know,

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basically continued to bless us and help us and

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we found a good church and we settled in there

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and was trying to get an understanding of what

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God wanted to do with us in our life. And I was

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kind of doing what Paul was doing. I knew what

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I should do, but I didn't do it. And even when

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I was doing what I shouldn't be doing, I did

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it anyways. And so that's why I guess I love

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that scripture so much. But I understand that's

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what happened in my life. And I hope that those

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of you who are listening will understand that

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those things do happen in our lives. That doesn't

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mean God is done with it. He's through with us

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and won't give us another chance. Because shortly

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after being in Tucson for a couple of years,

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we got a wonderful promotion to come back into

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the Phoenix area where I really wanted to be

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with my family. We found a fabulous church. We

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got involved with amazing, amazing people. outreach

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church that was reaching the community and just

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doing great works and we started going there

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right after we got back to Phoenix and we now

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have still been associated with that same church

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now for like 46 years and so we thank God for

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that but God had a better plan and a great plan

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for us but even if we walked away from what we

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knew what to do and we didn't do it God will

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still forgive us and cleanse us I think he did

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that for Paul obviously Paul talked about all

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the problems he had and the things he was doing

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wrong, but God had a great plan for him. And

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Paul turned in the direction of being led by

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the Holy Spirit and God could use him in a greater

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way than ever before. And I can see that's happening

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in my own life. Now, when we were in Sierra Vista

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in Southern Arizona, we were brand new Christians.

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I mean, we had just found Jesus. We'd only been

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Christians about a year. And we were really hungry,

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reading the word of God, getting great Bible

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teaching, but we were new Christians. sudden

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there was an opportunity to go down to a little

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town called Sierra Vista. We prayed about it.

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We asked God to help us and we knew it was God's

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will. We knew that we knew that we knew that

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we were supposed to leave the Phoenix area and

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go up to go down to Sierra Vista in Arizona.

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Take this promotion in the bank. And because

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of that, being led by the Spirit of God, that's

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when the power of God fell upon that church and

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there was just an explosion of growth. Just absolutely

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amazing what took place. That God was using in

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a glorious way A couple of young kids, my wife

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and I, we were like about 27 years of age, had

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only known the Lord for a year and a half or

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so. But the Lord put us in positions of leadership

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in the church and the pastor was our mentor and

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helping us and his wife. And we were receiving

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wonderful guidance and direction and knew that

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the Holy Spirit wanted us there. And because

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we were there, I mean, we look back on our life

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and probably the greatest three, three and a

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half years of our entire life was the time that

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we lived in this little town in Sierra Vista.

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when we felt the call of God on our life, and

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it was just amazing. I didn't realize though,

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that I would run in a different direction for

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a while, but that God still had his hand on me.

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And so then after I ran away from Sierra Vista

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to Tucson, was miserable there, then went back

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to Phoenix, then God said, okay, I'm still here

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for you. If you want me, I'm going to help you.

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I'm going to direct you. I'm going to guide you.

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And I kept praying, Lord, I need to know your

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will up here, because I know what I did wasn't

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right down there. I was kind of running from

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you. And I'm sorry, I... apologize, forgive me,

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and I really had to repent for getting outside

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of God's will. And when I did, it was amazing

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how the floodgates of heaven just opened up.

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And the Lord allowed us to prosper in the church

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here in Phoenix, and it moved on to the point

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that we were there for many years under great

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teaching, a wonderful pastor, and the church

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we were with grew from maybe a couple hundred

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people to five or six thousand people. It was

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just amazing. People getting saved every week,

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outreaches in the city, just all kinds of great

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things. And then in the middle of that, the pastor

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came to me and said, I want you to go to another

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city, go to Scottsdale, and start your own church.

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And so we did. And then God turned around and

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blessed that. So everything that I'd done prior

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to that time, I know I'm giving you a lot of

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stories, and I'm trying to keep them in order.

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Okay, remember, new Christian, Sierra Vista in

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God's will, Tucson out of God's will, back to

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Phoenix in God's will, and then serving at a

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church and doing our best to serve other people.

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Then God directed us to start our own church.

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So I know what It's like to be in and out of

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God's will. I know what it's like to know that

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God is leading you and when I know what to do

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and I don't do it. And I hope that that'll be

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a help to you and a blessing to those who are

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listening in today. So therefore, the church

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that we started in Scottsdale prospered and did

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incredibly well. And for like 17 years, we were

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the senior pastors, the church grew and it prospered

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and God opened up great opportunities. Our church

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had over 2000 people in attendance. We had three

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locations in the Scottsdale area, South Scottsdale,

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the middle of Scottsdale, up in a place called

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Carefree, north of Scottsdale. And we had three

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sites that we were working through, and the jail

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ministries that we had were amazing, and 2 ,200,

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2 ,300 people would be coming to our church services

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in a week. It was just amazing. And then in the

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middle of all that, we built this beautiful new

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church that God provided the funds for, and it

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just was amazing. When I thought, okay, now things

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are going great, going great, all of a sudden

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the Holy Spirit, okay, so now it's time for you

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to step down and pass this on to a younger person.

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So I was approaching 70 years old when that hit

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me. And I thought, Lord, is that your will? Inside,

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I did not want to do it. I did not. I didn't

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want to leave the church. I didn't want to step

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away from the church. But I felt the power of

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the Holy Spirit telling me, it's time for you

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to move on. I have greater plans for the church.

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And you're going to be here. You're going to

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be part of it. But you need to step away. So

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my wife and I stepped away from being the senior

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pastors. And we joined forces with another church.

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It's called Dream City Church now. And our church

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was the first one to join them. to cause this

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expansion that took place but now just I hope

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this helps some people listening in right now

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because all of a sudden Through all that ups

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and downs and ups and downs and things in and

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out of God's will, all of a sudden we had this

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opportunity, approaching 70 years of age, to

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merge with another church. And I knew beyond

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a shadow of a doubt that it was God's will. I

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mean, I absolutely knew. I didn't want to do

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it, but I knew it was His will. So we did. We

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stepped aside. But as we stepped aside, then

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we were asked also to join on the board of directors

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of all the campuses we have. And now today, instead

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of being a part of one church, We now have 11

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campuses and we're involved quite heavily. We're

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loving it. We know we're in God's will. We're

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now the congregational care pastors at the church.

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And so we know the people. We stayed at the same

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church that we were at because we knew so many

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people and wanted to encourage them to stay with

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us and be with us. And God has blessed us to

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give us new ministries, veterans ministries,

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ministries for widows, ministries for mentoring

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men and training men for me. And it's just simply

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amazing. move of God, how he continues to use

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you if you make yourself available to him. So

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I hope that, kind of an arduous story, I feel

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a little bit like I've given a whole lot of talk

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without maybe enough scriptures to help you,

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but I truly believe that the Lord wanted me to

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share my in and out experiences, up and down

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experiences with the Holy Spirit and with knowing

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God's will that it might encourage some out there

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who may have experienced the same thing or similar

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things. I truly felt led to tell our story, because

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I know God's will. and how it affected us. You

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see, the benefit of knowing and doing God's will

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is that our faith increases, our trust in God

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grows, we become closer to God, we grow spiritually,

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and we receive His peace. The challenges of not

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knowing God's Spirit or following His Spirit

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and following His will is confusion, doubt, fear,

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anxiety, worry, and all kinds of things. And

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those are things I don't want in my life. And

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so I thank God for the opportunities He's given

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us. But I look forward to the next 10, 20 years

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as long as I'm going to be here on earth, that

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God has great things planned and He's going to

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do a great work as long as we ask the Holy Spirit

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to guide and direct us according to God's will.

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Well, I know this has been a little unusual type

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podcast, one that where I've not talked in the

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past that much about stories of our background,

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our experiences and things, but I truly felt

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led to the Holy Spirit. So I hope that was a

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blessing to you. So before we close this podcast

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out, I need to pray for you and talk about what's

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upcoming. Heavenly Father for those who are listening

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in I pray that you would touch them and bless

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them and help them Lord that they would know

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your will and if they're not in doing your will

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father that Lord they would not give up that

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they would continue to press on and do what you've

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called them to do I pray the Holy Spirit would

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give them wisdom would give them direction would

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give them the knowledge that they need to move

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forward to operate in your will and I pray Lord

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a blessing upon those don't the father they'll

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not feel discouraged or defeated or maybe that

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God doesn't love him anymore, but Lord But I

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just pray, Father, that you would help them to

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be just obedient to your word, obedient to prayer,

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and obedient to build a greater relationship

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with the Holy Spirit. Father, I haven't got the

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relationship I need with the Holy Spirit yet,

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but I'm working on it every day, and I pray that

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he would guide and direct each and every one

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of us. Thank you, Lord, for those who are listening

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in. Thank you, Father, that they've become a

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part of this podcast. Bless them, Father, I pray,

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and provide for them, I ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Well, if you'd like to know more, about Quality

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Christian Living and about what we do in this

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podcast, because this series on the Holy Spirit

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is probably gonna be close to 30 or more podcasts

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by the time we're finished, and depending on

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how the Holy Spirit directs us. But there's a

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number of podcasts. We've done a lot of different

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topics. So if you'd like to know more about Quality

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Christian Living, you can go to my webpage at

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davidcfriendauthor .com. And when you pull up

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the front page there, you'll notice a link there

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to all the podcasts we've done. And so all of

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these will continue to be listed I guess until

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Jesus comes from what I've been told but they're

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available to everyone there's some 300 and I

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think 51 is what this one was podcasts that have

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been done over a period of about four years so

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there's topics dealing with finances there's

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topics dealing with the Holy Spirit the gifts

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of the Spirit how to operate in those gifts there's

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series on faith and miracles and just every kind

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of topic that the Lord has put upon my heart

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to teach and bring to you after the 20 -some

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years of pastoring and years of teaching in churches,

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the Holy Spirit has given me a plethora of topics.

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So you can just scroll down there and see which

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ones you like. I see that daily people are picking

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out stuff I've done two and three and four years

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ago and listening to them and being blessed.

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So I would encourage you to do that. In addition

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to that, if you'd like to know about some of

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the writings that I've had, you can scroll down

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my web page, just one more page, and you'll see

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a list of books that are on Amazon right now.

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There's books on finances, there's books for

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veterans, there's books for faith. and healings

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and miracles and so I pray that you would be

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blessed by those. Matter of fact I'm in the midst

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of when this series is over I'm going to be doing

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this if spirit leads as I think he is and that

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is to write a book on the Holy Spirit and helping

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people to know how he operates in our lives and

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how to have the right relationship with him.

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So that's something that we'll be doing and will

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continue to do. We'll follow up our next podcast

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will just be a follow -up of what we've done

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on this one. I really feel like I I haven't been

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able to express everything I wanna talk about

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scripturally and about the Holy Spirit and God's

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will. So we're gonna continue to do that for

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one more week at least and see how the Holy Spirit

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leads us there. So I hope that would be of interest

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to you. I think the things we need to talk about

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in our next podcast on the Holy Spirit and our

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will and God's will is the purpose of the Holy

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Spirit is to help believers, help other believers

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about understanding God's will. And we'll look

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at what are the ministries of the Holy Spirit

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and how the Holy Spirit ministers to us and how

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he helps us to do God's will. So with that, I

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hope that you'll tune into that. If you'd like

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to subscribe to my podcast, you can do that by

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going to cpnshows .com or wherever you listen

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to your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode,

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please take a moment and rate it and give us

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a review of the podcast. It really helps us to

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choose to support us, we certainly do appreciate

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that. So I'm going to close this podcast out

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with a blessing for you and thank you so much

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for listening in. I pray that God will bless

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you and that he'll keep you and that his face

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will shine upon you. He'll be gracious to you

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and give you peace. May you prosper and be in

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good health even as your soul prospers. So until

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next time, may God bless you. God richly bless

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you. May you know God's will and operate in God's

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will and receive the leading and direction to

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the Holy Spirit to help you in that direction.

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May all of us desire a closer walk with God,

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a stronger relationship with the Holy Spirit,

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and just bless each and every one. I want to

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thank you once again for listening to the Quality

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Christian Living Podcast. I am your host, David

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Friend. Thank you once again for listening in.
