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Hey everybody, welcome to Jon D Podcast.

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I'm your host Jon D Miller.

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Welcome to episode number 68 everybody.

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Number 68, numero sesenta y ocho in the old Espanol language.

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That's right.

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Mm hmm.

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One thousand two hundred forty three going on one thousand two hundred forty four days

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now as I begin to record this intro of no booze.

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No booze.

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Yeah, no booze.

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I say intro because once again I have a fantastic guest for you today, this evening, wherever

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you are, whatever you might be doing.

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How are yous, how are yous, how are you else?

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So I've known this gentleman for about 14 years and I've been thinking about getting

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him on the show for a while.

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And one of the reasons why is because he has what literally one of the coolest jobs you

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could probably ever hope for, at least as long as if you're into things such as animation

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and the TV show Family Guy, because he is a storyboard artist on that show.

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I did, I hit him up.

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I said, hey man, I've been thinking about having you on the show.

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He said, you know, but in an open invitation, don't no rush, just whenever.

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He said, what are you doing tomorrow?

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I said, I'm recording a podcast with you.

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That's what I'm doing.

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So that's what we did.

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We had a very cool conversation.

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It was a lot of fun.

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He's a really genuinely awesome and sincere person, but we talk about where he is today,

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how he got there and some really awesome insights into not just animation, but the TV show Family

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Guy itself.

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And I really appreciate him being on the podcast.

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You're going to really like it.

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That being said, please follow me on social media, Jon D Comedy, Jon D Podcast on Twitter.

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I think that's everything.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that's everything.

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So this was awesome.

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I've been literally so recorded this past Thursday.

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So it's been a few days since I've done this and putting this all together is just, it's

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been really cool.

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So hang out and enjoy my conversation with Mr. Patrick McCarthy.

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And here he is, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the podcast, a longtime friend

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of mine, not one I've talked to in quite a while, but I'm so excited to have him here.

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I hit him up literally yesterday, but I've known him for a long time.

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And I said, Hey, dude, I've always wanted to have you on the podcast.

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Would you be interested?

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And he said, dude, let's do it tomorrow, which, which I take as a, I don't know, I don't even

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know how what to call it.

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Compliment.

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Please welcome to the podcast, everybody, Mr. Patrick McCarthy, who is has one of the

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coolest jobs I've ever heard of in my entire life.

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He works on the award winning and renowned.

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It has won awards.

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It has, it should, in my opinion, a family guy.

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Please welcome to the podcast, Patrick McCarthy.

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Patrick, thank you so much for being here today.

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Of course.

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Thank you.

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Let's talk about your back.

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So you are, what do you do right now?

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So we're going to start like the movie does where it starts at the end and then it goes

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back and tells the story.

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That's what we're going to do.

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So we're going to start at the end.

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You may ask, how did I get here?

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Yeah, exactly.

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So how, so what are you now?

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What do you do?

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I am a storyboard artist at Family Guy.

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And you know, a lot of times when I'm trying to explain it to people, it's, it's kind of

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like being almost like an engineer or architect for the cartoon.

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We're the first ones to kind of map it out.

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You know, we're kind of determining where the camera is going to be, where the characters

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are and what kind of main actions they're going to do.

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So it's like the kind of the first step between it just being words on a page to what it's

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actually going to look like.

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Because then, yeah, after, after we map it all out, then it goes over to Korea and they

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animate everything over there.

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I knew there was some overseas going on.

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A lot of people do that nowadays.

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They do it in podcasting, which, you know, working in that.

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I mean, I do my own, but yeah, they, they do send it overseas a lot.

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But yeah, that's, that's, that's what a storyboard artist does.

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You take the words, you make them into the pictures that we all get to see and enjoy,

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which of course on Family Guy would be Peter, Lois, Stewie, Brian, right?

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All them.

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Meg.

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Very cool job.

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But you, you didn't always do that.

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So let's start off a little bit and let's go back a little bit now.

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Do you still do stand up at all?

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No, not at all.

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Not at all.

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What made you decide to stop doing it?

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Well, so you and I met between 2010, 2011, because I moved out.

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Was it that late?

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Well, because I was in school.

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Oh, that's right.

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You were, that's right.

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You were at Virginia Tech.

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Yeah, that's right.

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And I studied creative writing there because I like, I knew like freshman year of high

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school that I wanted to like move out to LA and do the whole Hollywood thing.

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But at the same time, I also loved stand up.

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You know, I would like, like during the summers, I would watch like all the Comedy Central presents

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the all the different little like stand up specials Comedy Central would have during

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the day and then when I turned 18, my senior year, I was like, okay, I'm going to the Funny

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Bone and I'm doing their competition.

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And first time I did it, I won.

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And yeah, it was cool but it was just funny because I went back home, told my dad, I was

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like, dad, I'm on first place at the Funny Bone and he goes, I must not understand comedy

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anymore.

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Makes that is the encouraging one.

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You know what, I want to say that's awesome, but it's also so bad at the same time.

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But it would be funny in a movie.

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I can laugh at it now.

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Yeah, sure, sure.

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Yeah, but so I went to Virginia Tech to study creative writing.

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I wanted to go out to California but my dad was like, no, you're staying in state.

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You're a little young for the time, right?

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18, 19 when you were talking about doing it, right?

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But my dad just, again, but it's all good because when Virginia Tech had a good time

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And then when I graduated, I came home and was living with my dad again.

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I don't have enough funds to just go move out to LA.

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What can I do?

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And I was like, oh, well, I love stand up.

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Let me do that.

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So it was kind of just like a way to kind of get myself out there, express myself.

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But it was funny because I came out of the whole college mentality which college is great

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but all the professors and everybody, they just kind of like, you're gonna do great.

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You're gonna change the world.

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And so you kind of come out like you're like, we're all gonna change the world.

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Right, guys?

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And so that's what they're supposed to do.

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I think that's what they do.

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You're gonna change shit.

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That's what you paid us all this money to tell you.

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So I came out with all this enthusiasm, which is definitely a good thing.

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But you know, I also put my foot in my mouth a lot.

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And just wasn't thinking, I wasn't doing a good job of thinking about where other people

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might be at or what their experience is up to that point.

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You know, like, it's kind of like when Justin Bieber came out with this documentary, it's

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like, like never stop believing or whatever.

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I'm like, dude, when did you have a chance to give up?

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You like made it when you were 12.

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So it was like, you know, I'm like, we're all we're all gonna do it.

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We're all gonna make it.

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We're all gonna succeed.

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And and it's like, yeah, easy for you to say, bro, you just got out of school.

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Yeah, he just I mean, he was just on the scene and it seemed like he already like the struggle.

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So I did stand up for about a year in Richmond.

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And and yeah, we got to meet up a few times.

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It was it was cool because with you, like we didn't see each other too often.

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But you know, I got to know some of the other comedians and they would speak highly of you.

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They're like, oh, man, you should see when he performs.

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I'm like, OK, where is he?

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When am I going to see him?

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I didn't know those people said nice things about me.

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And you know, it's funny.

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The other night I went to that open mic and somebody called me an OG.

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I got you're an OG.

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I don't know.

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Maybe I'm just an old guy.

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Maybe that's it's all it is.

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So 2012, I started seeing like, hey, I'm out here.

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I'm not dead or anything like that.

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I'm I'm doing all right.

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And I was like, that's you know, that's cool.

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Good for him.

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Because one of the things that I never like I've known comics, I've known other people,

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not just comics, but other people who have left their comfy town or whatever, not visited,

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but literally moved to another city that is a whole nother place, New York or L.A.

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I used to want to go to L.A. used to want to work in animation, but I was more of a

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voice guy and then do stand up.

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But I always respect the people who did it, who who went out there and chased their dreams.

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I mean, is anything else before you left Richmond?

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You were like, hey, I'm going to you go out there with the intent of doing stand up.

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It was it was my excuse to move out to L.A. like I was like, OK.

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And it was kind of my my building leaping off point.

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So it's like because, you know, L.A. is huge.

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It's got millions of people.

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It's almost like its own little country just because every section has its own name and

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it's its own like little municipality or whatnot.

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But yeah, I got out here to L.A. and and thanks to stand up, I was able to like, OK, let me

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go to the Hollywood improv.

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Let me go to the comedy story.

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Let me try to get up there like and meeting people and kind of get to know some people

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and just having that, but that at the same time, you know, I would want once I kind of

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got my feet planted because actually the first few months I was in my car and didn't have

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a place to stay.

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So this is this is where I kind of wanted to touch on this because, you know, you were

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What what was that like?

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So you get there.

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Did you not have a place to stay and you lost it?

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Like what was it was?

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What happened there?

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It was kind of partially my own fault that it was like I was planning on moving out to

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L.A. and as I was looking things up, I was like, you know what?

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I'm not going to understand until I actually get there.

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So instead of trying to like lock in a place or lock in a job and these things that are

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these are good, stable things to do, I was like, ah, it's going to take me forever if

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I try to line all this stuff up.

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So let me just go.

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And so I just went and yeah, like I would I found a gym.

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I joined a gym.

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There's like a 24 hour fitness so I could go to sleep in the parking lot.

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But I would go in at night, you know, shower, brush my teeth, go sleep in the car in the

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morning, go work out, go shower and then go on about my day.

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But I was and I was using stand up to like, you know, I was traveling all these different

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places around the city, kind of learning the different areas.

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Go, OK, this area is not so nice.

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OK, this area is pretty safe.

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And so then from there, I finally got a job.

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And then once I got a job, I was at first place.

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It was really just weeks apart.

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My first job I really had, I kept the entire time I was a valet.

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I was a valet parking cars.

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Nice.

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Seven years.

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Nice.

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I think, you know, I think I remember hearing you talk about this at some point.

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I don't know where maybe it was Facebook or maybe some I don't know.

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There's something I might have heard.

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But what was that like?

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What was being a valet like?

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I got to hear this some of this for a second, at least.

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Well, I mean, that job specifically was very unique.

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So essentially it was valet work, but it was at a high rise condominium where a lot of

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rich people live.

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So instead of it being like a hotel where people come in and out, it was it was a home.

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OK, where you had like regulars, all these people, like people you knew.

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Yeah.

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So instead of kind of putting on that hotel concierge type of song and dance, it was more

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so trying to build connections and being like, oh, you know, Mr. So-and-so, how are you doing

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today?

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Did that work out for you?

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Like, you know, just make small talk with them, make them feel comfortable in their

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home.

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And it also helped me in some ways because like, for example, one resident that lived

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there was a writer and he'd written on Simpsons, he'd written on Malcolm in the Middle, Frazier.

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And so I was like, hey, I'm I'm trying to be a writer.

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And I entered like the Warner Brothers Writers Program.

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I was like, can you read my script and give me notes?

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And he was like, yeah, sure.

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And he read a Family Guy spec script that I wrote.

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And his compliment was, it reads like a script.

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I was like, all right, I'll take it.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you're in the right direction.

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Yeah.

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And but it was also enough for him to trust me with things.

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So he invited me into like he had his own show.

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So he invited me into the writers room.

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So I got to kind of observe how that went.

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Can you say what show that was?

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Yeah, it was a show called Wendell and Vinny.

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It was on Nick at Night back in 2012 time.

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And it was great.

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It was a great show.

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But you know, it's like Nick at Night, like kind of a confusing demographic.

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He's like, who is that for necessarily?

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And he was incredibly nice.

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But the reason I kind of prefaced that the job was weird was because it also had very

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unique management.

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And so a lot of the employees there would get away with anything.

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So we're parking, you know, half a million dollar cars.

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We're parking Lamborghinis, Ferraris and stuff.

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And these guys would scratch them or just not show up to work or even one time our boss

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was like a Christmas party or something.

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It's like one of our employees had just gotten a divorce after just getting married over

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a weekend in Vegas.

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Right.

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Nice.

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One of those.

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But the boss kind of made a joke about it.

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And then he went down into the garage and peed all over the windshield of our boss's

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car.

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Really?

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We're just like this dude, you're going to get fired.

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But right before the boss called for his car the next day, we took like a hose and we did

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like a pressure washer, washed it off real quick.

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But I mean, that, okay, that was just one.

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And that guy didn't get fired or anything.

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Anybody who left that job just left.

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They just left on their own volition.

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Nobody ever got fired.

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Yeah.

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They were getting kicked off of it.

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Yeah.

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No matter what crazy things happen.

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Well, you're parking Lamborghinis so you can drive stick, right?

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So that what you could do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A lot of people can't drive stick anymore.

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That was one of my silly little stand up bits that I had for a while where I was just like,

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I was like, Oh, my car has a great security system that keeps anybody from stealing it.

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It's called a manual transmission.

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Yeah.

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And it's so good, even I can't take it sometimes.

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So that's an interesting job.

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So you were a valet at an apartment complex.

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So you had the regular people, which is kind of a different thing because I know in LA,

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you know, I visited a few times out there and I know that, you know, any place you go

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a lot of times it's, you know, any place you go, you go to someplace on sunset, you go

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to a bar, you go to a club, you know, it's valet, it's valet, valet.

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And one of the biggest things about those is I always thought was funny was, you know,

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I'm like, where are you parking these things?

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Because it didn't seem like there was any place around for them to put these cars, but

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they would just take your car and then they come back.

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I always had rentals when I was there, so I wasn't that worried about it.

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But if I actually owned a Lamborghini or one of those type things, I'm sure I'm sure

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I'd have been more worried about it.

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So you get so you get on that show, you're a valet and then you but you get in with the

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writer, you're working on the show at Nick at night.

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And then how did that kind of progress from there?

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So it was really observation.

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Like I was in no way affiliated with the show, but it was great just exposure kind of just

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understanding.

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I feel like that was one of the first early lessons that I learned out here is just you

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don't know until you know.

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You like you don't know what your goal or dream is until you come out here and see the

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other people doing it.

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And you're like, oh, that's what they're doing.

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That's how they're doing it.

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Okay, where do I start now that I know that?

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Right.

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And and so even with that, there was there is kind of like to be like a writer on a television

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show.

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There is like a trajectory, right?

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You can be a PA and then be a writer's assistant or you can do these programs and then hopefully,

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you know, eventually become a staff writer.

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But that like the PA and writer's assistant stuff is kind of like a luxury.

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Like you had to be able to not receive income and keep yourself afloat.

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So those weren't really available to me at that point, right?

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It's kind of like a college kids thing.

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You went homeless for that long, were you?

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I mean, it was I moved out here.

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It was the end of July.

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And so it was like August, August, September and October.

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Well, so that August and September, I was in my car and then somebody I went to high

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school with was also out here and then I crashed on his couch.

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But I was one of like six in a two bedroom apartment.

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But then by that November, I got a job, got a place.

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And so then finally was no longer in my car.

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And yeah, was was parking cars for the next seven years after that.

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But was doing other things.

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Yeah.

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So that's what I was to say about stand up.

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So once I kind of got my feet planted and I was like trying to write, like, you know,

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because I was learning from him or whatnot, like I was also doing stand up, but it'd be

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like an hour to get to any open mic.

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And you had to get there an hour early if you wanted to sign up.

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And then you have to wait about an hour into the show before you get up for a three to

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five minute set and then another hour to get home.

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And I'm like, man, I could spend that four hours writing something, creating something.

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So it just it just didn't make sense when I was I was finding that L.A. had everything

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available to you, like anything you want to do, you could do.

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But in terms of like, like if you want to be a stand up, there's plenty of different

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things.

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But that wasn't my only goal.

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That was just like a fun excuse to get out here.

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I wanted to go out there and do stand up, but I don't I mean, I think I do OK as a stand

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up.

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I think I can hold my own, definitely.

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But, you know, I was talking to my my last episode buddy of mine from Canada, who's a

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comic named Darryl.

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And we were talking about how like you go to L.A. in New York and, you know, you think

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you're good, you think you have it.

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And then you go up and you watch somebody you've never heard of before just destroy for 20 minutes.

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And my experience is in places like New York and L.A. is that, you know, you're watching

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some of the all stars from where they're from, you know, you're watching the best from Wisconsin

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or the best from, you know, some guy.

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I remember one time I was out in L.A. and there was some dude I can't remember his name.

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He was from Idaho of all places.

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And he literally went in there and just killed it at some little spot I was at.

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But yeah, the animation thing was I was going to do voices.

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It doesn't matter.

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But, you know, but you had other things.

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It does matter.

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Everything we want in this world.

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Well, I like the mentality you have, Patrick.

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That's fantastic.

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You were always a you always seem very, very bright and positive when I knew you before.

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So yeah, I mean, nothing good.

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Good.

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I'm glad I'm glad L.A. you know, because that's what they say.

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People go to L.A. and they get bitter and they get jaded.

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Are they?

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Well, I I would say the culture shock for me in that regard is is is L.A. trained me

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that you have to be an asshole.

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But you can do without what you want.

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So what I guess I mean by that is like people out here are going to force you to have to

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say something you can't just be.

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And so it's like, OK, well, what kind of asshole am I going to be?

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So I just always try to make sure that if I'm being an asshole, it's because I know

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I'm in the right, right?

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Or like it's not just about me.

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Like I'll yell, I'll do the whatever as long as I know it doesn't just benefit me.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's one thing to be an asshole.

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It's not going to be like a self-centered asshole.

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Like, you know what I mean?

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Like if you're if you're standing up for somebody else or for a group of people or, you know,

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whatever it might be, you know, even yourself.

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But at the same time, it's got to be correct in what you're doing.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Make sure you get that right.

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And it's just yeah, it's just L.A. is just so full of crazy people, crazy things.

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And it's just like I feel like in Richmond, like, of course, there's crazy people and

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crazy things.

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But it's like I feel like when those situations pop up, you can kind of just like whisper

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and be like, wow, that guy's all that guy's a little crazy.

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I'm just going to go now.

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But it's like out here, you get confronted with it so often that you're like, I'm going

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to have to do something.

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I thought that never happened in New York.

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But I spent a total of one week in New York back back when I was I was in Virginia.

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I went up to New York to do to try stand up up there just to see what it was like.

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And so it's kind of got a good impression of what people were like out there and that

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short window.

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But I quickly noticed that the difference between L.A. and New York is that people in

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New York are like, hey, who the hell are you?

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Who do you think you are?

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But out here in L.A. is like, do you know who I am?

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You know how important I am?

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That is extremely well put.

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Dude, you just that is literally you nailed it on the head.

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That is exactly.

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Yeah, it's like, yeah, New York people hate when you have an ego and L.A. people are astonished

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when when you don't recognize their ego.

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God damn, that is perfect.

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Somebody write that down.

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Share something.

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That's the quote.

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Do you know who I am?

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But I overall, I still like I'm very happy having moved to L.A. as opposed to New York

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because in terms of chasing the dream, you really and you can make it either place, right?

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Whatever it is your goals are.

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But I found that over the last decade of being out here is there's more to life than the

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pursuit.

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There's more to life than than trying to quote unquote make it.

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And so what's nice about L.A. is since it is its own kind of mini country, anything

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you want to do, any interest you have, there's something out here for you.

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All right.

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So it's like, you know, me and my wife, we we go hiking, we go play volleyball at the

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beach, we go salsa dancing.

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Like all these things are easily found and accessible all in one city.

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And then you can go and be on TV.

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I know that when I visited, I was always like I really was.

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I almost moved there.

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I really like I almost had it.

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And then but you know, I just never the balls to do it, which is why I respect people who

481
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,640
do because it is a leap, you know, and it is a thing.

482
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160
And I loved it out there, but I was always happy to come home.

483
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,600
You know, I always remember when I would be leaving on the plane and they would take off

484
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,960
from the back wheels would come up like, I'd see you next time, L.A. I'm going home, you

485
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,760
know, and I was always happy to have done that.

486
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,160
But so, yeah, like I said, I mean, I always respect the people that really that made the

487
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,600
jump and did it.

488
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,680
So you get out there, you get on TV.

489
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,400
I don't think I know what your on TV experience was.

490
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,400
What was that?

491
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,400
Can you?

492
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,400
Well, OK.

493
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:31,480
So is it something you don't want to say?

494
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Well, it's it's it's more so like there's the Hollywood dream than there's the Hollywood

495
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,560
reality.

496
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,560
Right.

497
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,720
So when I first moved out here, you know, I was trying to expose myself to anything

498
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,440
I'm doing to stand up.

499
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,840
But I was also trying to audition for things.

500
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Right.

501
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,400
Like you're you got to try to do the whole actor thing as well.

502
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,840
And there was like this calling thing where they're like, come out and and we'll pay you

503
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,440
50 bucks if you just like ring a doorbell, say some cheesy line and then some girls could

504
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,160
be like, sorry, you can't get in.

505
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,080
So it was essentially just to be be footage for a reality show, a dating show.

506
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,080
OK.

507
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,080
All right.

508
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,920
So it was like it was called Excused, hosted by Eliza Schlesinger.

509
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Yeah.

510
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,200
And so I came out and I did the whole doorbell thing and they fed me some cheesy like, I

511
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,160
just say this and like, all right, cool.

512
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720
And then they're like, hey, do you want to be on the show?

513
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,720
What?

514
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,640
And they're like, yeah, you could like I had a girlfriend at the time, but they were like,

515
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,640
yeah, it doesn't matter.

516
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,480
It's like we'll pay you like 150 bucks for a day's work.

517
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,720
And I'm like, all right, well, I'm unemployed.

518
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:50,080
And then so I did it and it was three girls and three guys.

519
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:56,000
And no matter what, whether you win or lose, you're paid the same.

520
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,920
And they explained that to us on the day of.

521
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,200
So it's like, they're like, OK, if you're like the first guy eliminated, then you're

522
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,680
leaving by lunchtime.

523
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,560
But if you're the winner, you're going to be here by like 10 o'clock midnight.

524
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,880
And so all the guys were like, you'd be charming.

525
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,880
You'd be charming.

526
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,920
Nobody wanted to work the whole day, especially if you can pay the same regardless.

527
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Like you don't want to have to go.

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Yeah.

529
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Exactly.

530
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,080
So I was luckily one of the first eliminated.

531
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
I got out of there by lunchtime.

532
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,200
And it was because when I auditioned, they like they brought me in and they wanted me

533
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,360
to interview and talk about myself.

534
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:37,440
But this was going to be chopped up footage for the girls to review about whether or not

535
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760
they let me into the house.

536
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,440
And it was just so funny because this woman, she set me up, this woman interviewing me.

537
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,480
The way she's asking these questions, I'm just, oh, how does this sound out of context?

538
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,680
Like, you just chopped this up.

539
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320
And so I felt like I did good the whole interview.

540
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080
I was like, all right, I've nailed it.

541
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,560
There's nothing embarrassing they could pull on me.

542
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,160
And then like at the end of the interview, she's like, OK, you don't have a home address

543
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,160
listed.

544
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,400
I was like, oh, well, technically I'm living in my car right now.

545
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,000
She's like, oh, talk about that.

546
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,040
Are I trying to win a date?

547
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,320
She said, no, no, no, it'd be fine.

548
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Talk about that.

549
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,480
So, yeah, I said something about living in my car.

550
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,120
And then she fed me some corny line to say about it.

551
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:22,120
All right.

552
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:26,940
And then sure enough, you know, fast forward back three months later, no longer in my car.

553
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:30,400
But now I'm on this dating show and the guys are all waiting.

554
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,440
They're like going to eliminate the first person.

555
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Please eliminate me.

556
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Patrick, I'm like, yes, we really like you.

557
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,680
But dude, you live in your car.

558
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,920
And I was like, yes, yes, I do.

559
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,320
It brought good something for once.

560
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,320
But then it was just funny because I was on it for such a short time.

561
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,720
But then, I don't know, maybe after that aired a month or two later, I went to the comedy

562
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,840
store to do a show.

563
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,000
And because I was still doing standup at the time and I'm meeting this guy, just this random

564
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,300
person, I'm like, hey, nice to meet you, Patrick.

565
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:04,300
And he's like, oh, I know.

566
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,300
Yeah, excused.

567
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:06,300
What?

568
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,080
You should have said, you don't know who I am already.

569
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,080
Don't you know who I am?

570
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,080
That's what you said to the guy.

571
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:22,040
No, but actually it was funny because there's a comedian, Odell Harrison from Georgia that

572
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,960
I met up in Richmond one time.

573
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,240
He was up there performing.

574
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440
But after I did the show, I got a voicemail from him.

575
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,360
He's like, why the hell am I seeing you on this show talking about living in your car?

576
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,360
I don't know, man.

577
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,640
I mean, you were just being honest.

578
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,360
I did it for $150.

579
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
I mean, that's LA for you.

580
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,280
I mean, it's all it's money.

581
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,400
It's based on money.

582
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720
You want money, you want fame.

583
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,320
And you had a guy at the store recognize you.

584
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,320
So that's pretty cool.

585
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:58,920
But other than that, no, I did like some crowd work on like a different show.

586
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,640
And I mean, the only time my name is in the credits now is on Family Guy.

587
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Yeah, which is awesome, by the way.

588
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,520
So I want to hear about it.

589
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,520
So we're gonna do more.

590
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,980
So let's take a quick break.

591
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:13,440
And then we're gonna hear more from Patrick McCarthy.

592
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,520
We're going to be talking about his work at the TV show Family Guy.

593
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,600
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And welcome back to part two of John D. Podcasts with Patrick McCarthy.

619
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,320
I'm so glad he's here.

620
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,000
We learned in the first half of the episode, Patrick, the first part, I'm not sure it's

621
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,240
going to be a half evenly, but the first part of the episode, we learned about you're leaving

622
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Virginia, you get out to LA, we learned about some of your experiences out there and everything

623
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,160
else.

624
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,400
And then you are doing now, you get out there and you work on Family Guy.

625
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,760
How did that start?

626
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,760
When did it start?

627
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,800
And I mean, I have a, of course, I mean, probably we could probably do a whole episode on it.

628
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,660
Obviously, we're not going to because I wanted a little backstory, but how did it start?

629
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:18,880
How did that, how did you go into it?

630
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Because I know at one point you were doing Bantam Box, right?

631
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,160
Which is Bento Box.

632
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Bento Box.

633
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,160
That's the one.

634
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Yes.

635
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Yeah.

636
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,440
I'll let you tell the story, but I'm, dude, I'm riveted.

637
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Go ahead.

638
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:42,240
It was kind of like, it was partly a result of just like coming out here, you can't have

639
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800
a linear plan.

640
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,160
You can't say I'm going to do this and then I'm going to do this and then I'm going to

641
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,160
do this.

642
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,920
And I'm like, all right, I'm going to do this and one of five things might happen.

643
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,840
And if two, if number two or number three happens, then I'm going to create a new branch

644
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,180
and figure that out.

645
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:06,360
And so, that's kind of what happened is I was learning, teaching myself how to animate

646
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,560
while trying to make my own content.

647
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,480
And so, I put out a bunch of cartoons and stuff and they were all well received, but

648
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,840
it was just a lot of people who claim themselves a writer.

649
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Whether they are, aren't, are good or not, it doesn't matter.

650
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,920
But like in terms of animation, there's not many people that are saying, I'm an animator,

651
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,920
I can animate well.

652
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280
So, it's like, I would put out this stuff and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, the writing's

653
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,240
good, but you animate?

654
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Can you animate this?

655
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Like, so, I would just get more and more attention from the fact that I was animating things.

656
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,440
And so, I rolled with it, right?

657
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:52,680
And eventually, I did what I called spec animations, where I was like, okay, I'm going to like

658
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,280
showcase myself and my ability not only to write like a certain show, but to animate

659
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,280
like the show.

660
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:05,080
So, I made like a South Park spec, I made a Family Guy spec, and those did really well.

661
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,480
And then I did a Game of Thrones prequel spec type of thing.

662
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,880
But the Family Guy one, Stewie Potter, that hit the front page of Reddit.

663
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,480
It got over like a million views when it did and Family Guy saw it.

664
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:27,400
So, they saw it and the producers reached out to me from the animation side, the animation

665
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:33,160
producers reached out and they were kind of like, hey, I can't say that we saw it, but

666
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,760
we saw it and it was really good.

667
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,640
And that was them being awesome because it's like, you know, what if Family Guy comes out

668
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,320
with an episode and it seems to have content from my video, they want, they need to have

669
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,600
plausible deniability or whatnot, but they were awesome.

670
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:58,680
They reached out to me and when I met with them, they were like, do you want a job?

671
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,320
Do you want to like work here?

672
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,840
I'm like, well, yeah, but I just figured my own way.

673
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,560
I don't know how to do this in a professional setting.

674
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,920
And they were like, oh, okay.

675
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,120
I mean, you know, classically trained.

676
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,760
Yeah, they were like looking at my video and they're like, well, I mean, you do good at

677
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,120
this or good at that.

678
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Like maybe you could try for one thing or another, but at the same time I made friends

679
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,760
with people there.

680
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,880
So like there was one person who was a storyboard artist there that me and him would grab lunch

681
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,680
and he was like, dude, you could be a storyboard artist.

682
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Sure.

683
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,440
I mean, every animation I've made, I've had a storyboard before.

684
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
I'm sure I could do that, but I don't know how.

685
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,040
And he's like, I'll show you.

686
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,920
So you showed me their storyboards and then like, I started to learn more on my own, learn

687
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:51,400
new software, learn Storyboard Pro, which is kind of like the industry standard for

688
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,240
storyboarding.

689
00:35:53,240 --> 00:36:01,540
And then at Family Guy, they have like, there's the storyboard artist position, but then there's

690
00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:05,920
one below it called Revisionist, which is essentially the one that comes and cleans

691
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,200
up all the stuff that the storyboard artists and the directors have slashed up.

692
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,720
And so I applied for that.

693
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:18,920
So I took the test for that and Family Guy said, thank you, but no, thank you.

694
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,560
So they told me no, and it was cool.

695
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,560
I kept working at things.

696
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,800
I was still making my stuff.

697
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,800
And then a year later, they're like, hey, we were reviewing your old test, your application.

698
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440
We want to bring you in for an interview.

699
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,440
And so I was like, okay, cool.

700
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Like maybe now they're bringing me in.

701
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:40,440
So I go in, I interview, it's like six or seven of them in the interview room with me,

702
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,440
right?

703
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,440
And then, well.

704
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,320
That's a pretty big panel to have to face.

705
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Yeah, it was all the producers and all the supervising directors.

706
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,600
So just for quick reference, it's like there's, in the storyboarding department, it's like

707
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,600
there's revisionist, board artist, assistant director, director, then supervising director.

708
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,280
So all the supervising directors were in the room and so were the producers.

709
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480
And just kind of got to know them all.

710
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,640
It went well.

711
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,040
And then afterwards, they were like, thank you, but no, thank you.

712
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Help me do it again.

713
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Kill me over here.

714
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:26,520
But then this other show called Hoops, which was going to be a basketball show on Netflix

715
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,360
over at Bento Box, some Family Guy people were jumping over to that.

716
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,120
So like one of the retakes directors there was going to be the supervising director for

717
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,120
that show.

718
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,960
And so my friend, he told me that he's like, hey, apply for that, you know, because a new

719
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480
show they don't command the same respect, right?

720
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,760
Like people from Family Guy aren't going to necessarily jump ship from the most reliable

721
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,280
show on earth to the first season of something.

722
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,880
So I applied to that and the interview went really well.

723
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,400
And you know, because I know a little something about basketball, despite the most storyboard

724
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,760
artists aren't exactly the biggest sports fans.

725
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,760
Right.

726
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,840
But you know, the game man, right?

727
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,840
Yeah.

728
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Yeah.

729
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,840
Yeah.

730
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840
So March Madness.

731
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Right.

732
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,440
But so I got the job there now.

733
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,120
And that was huge.

734
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,920
That was like, I still remember, like I got the email that I got the board artist position

735
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,240
there while I was doing laundry at a laundromat.

736
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:35,920
And I just like I just like because I was like, oh, my God, I get to put in my two weeks

737
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,440
notice at work.

738
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800
The ballet at the ballet.

739
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,800
Yeah.

740
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,760
I was still parked cars up to that point.

741
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,600
That'd be a moment.

742
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520
That's like a that's an LA moment right there, man.

743
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,520
You had the LA moment.

744
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,960
You're like, look, what am I doing myself?

745
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960
What's good?

746
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Yes.

747
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Right.

748
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Yeah.

749
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,960
Got it.

750
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,480
And then when somebody put their dirty socks in my washer, they all said, all right, I'm

751
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,480
putting in my two weeks notice.

752
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520
Get my own washer, damn it.

753
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,520
Yeah.

754
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,080
So no, that was.

755
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640
And I mean, I had I've had a couple of surreal moments just because even before, like with

756
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Stewie Potter, right, that blew up on Reddit.

757
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,600
And while it was blowing up, I was at work parking cars.

758
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,080
So literally thousands of comments are pouring and being like, oh, this, you know, this guy

759
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,000
should be on Family Guy or whatnot.

760
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Meanwhile, they're like, Patrick, go park a car.

761
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,520
You know, it's it's it's it's such a weird dynamic.

762
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,560
That's when you say, do you know who I am?

763
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,640
I have a which what is your YouTube channel is?

764
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Patrick McCarthy animations.

765
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Patrick McCarthy animations.

766
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,840
Two C's in McCarthy.

767
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Yes.

768
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,840
Yeah.

769
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,840
Patrick McCarthy animations.

770
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,840
Yeah.

771
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,800
I haven't posted anything in literally years and a while.

772
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,800
But dude, I do that.

773
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,800
Go and look at it.

774
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,800
I've looked at some of the stuff on there.

775
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,440
I was going to update things on there soon just because I have to work on my own personal

776
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,440
project.

777
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:13,920
But anyway, so hoops hired me and I put in my my I did my triumphant exit from the Carlisle.

778
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,680
But then I learned that storyboard artists are constantly searching for work.

779
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,160
You get staffed up on a show, you work on a few episodes of the season and the season

780
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,880
ends and then you have to go find another show.

781
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,920
And now I had a company like Bento Box, they can help you.

782
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
You'd be like, oh, well, we're also doing the Great North or we're also doing Bobs

783
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Bird or we're also doing this.

784
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,600
But nothing's guaranteed.

785
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,360
They're not required to put you on another show.

786
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,420
So I get on there and then it's like they're like, yeah, you're going to be on the show

787
00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:44,840
for 10 weeks.

788
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,040
Oh, I might need to go back to parking cars.

789
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Right.

790
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,720
Well, how long were you on the other one for, though?

791
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,320
On hoops, you're talking about hoops, you're on 10 weeks.

792
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,320
You're talking about.

793
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,320
Oh, OK, for 10 weeks.

794
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120
OK, so I get the hoops and they're like, yeah, you're on for 10 weeks.

795
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,480
And so it's like, well, you said people could leave whatever and go back.

796
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160
So with the valet job, right.

797
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
So you had that in your pocket.

798
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Yeah, but I kind of I put in a whole 30 day notice like I was because they gave me 30

799
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,200
days.

800
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,840
They're like, all right, you're going to be on the show like in April.

801
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,320
So I told my boss as soon as possible and I was telling every resident there and like,

802
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,800
oh, I'm going to be leaving.

803
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,800
Goodbye.

804
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,800
It was nice knowing you.

805
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Yeah, I will not be back.

806
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Yeah.

807
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,840
But I mean, that's that kind of job.

808
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,040
You don't burn bridges.

809
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,880
You don't burn bridges because it's a small world.

810
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,880
Right.

811
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
But amongst the elite, it's an even smaller world.

812
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,880
I think that's why they call me elite.

813
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,880
Yeah.

814
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:49,120
But it's so these people, you know, they may all be in this one such a location, but as

815
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:54,760
you're working your way up in the industry and dealing with people in higher levels of

816
00:41:54,760 --> 00:42:00,240
authority, there's going to be some overlap and there's going to be people that have connections

817
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,360
to where I was parking cars.

818
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,520
So I made sure to be as friendly as possible on my way out because I had no animosity.

819
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:15,640
That place kept me afloat, kept my bills paid until I did get to that next step in my journey.

820
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Right.

821
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,440
I think everybody who goes to Hollywood and does something where they any whatever they

822
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,240
a lot of people there's a lot that's the LA story.

823
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:29,180
I mean, you get out there, you do a job that that's it's not entertainment related.

824
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:30,680
And so you move on from that.

825
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,800
So you did it, man.

826
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,920
You put in the work.

827
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,620
This is why I wanted to tell your story because you were out there.

828
00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:38,520
So you go hoops with bento box.

829
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,520
Right.

830
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,120
And then what's the progression on?

831
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,240
So you're moving on from there.

832
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:46,840
So it got near and to my time there, like I've worked on a few episodes.

833
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,960
They actually added a few weeks on to us because they were behind on schedule because they

834
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,240
had an impossible schedule to start with.

835
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,240
But it was cool.

836
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,360
I was happy for the extra time.

837
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,620
But then it became like, OK, what am I going to be doing next?

838
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:07,480
But so then I email family guy, the producers over there, I'm like, hey, so I've been storyboarding.

839
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,280
I've been over here at bento storyboarding.

840
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Would love to to come over to you guys if you have anything open.

841
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,520
And they respond back to go, yeah, sure.

842
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Come on over.

843
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Like after these two big no's and and just years of knowing them and not.

844
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,000
It's just like once you got that first gig, like nobody wants to be the one that you learn

845
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,600
your mistakes on.

846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Right.

847
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,640
So after that, like once I got hoops and I emailed them, it was easy.

848
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,240
I came on over and so I started off as a revisionist on family guy.

849
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,800
And that was August twenty nineteen.

850
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,960
So April twenty nineteen, I was at hoops August.

851
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,280
I jumped over to family guy and then I've been there ever since.

852
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Yeah, it's been it's been great because it you know, as I just said, like normally storyboard

853
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,400
artists are jumping around from show to show to show.

854
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,060
But then I got family guy as said, twenty nineteen.

855
00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:13,680
And then it's just kind of this forever show that's constant.

856
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,480
But then the pandemic hit.

857
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Right.

858
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,480
The pandemic hit.

859
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,600
And so it's it was good for animation because it was one of the few things that could be

860
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,900
done during the pandemic.

861
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:27,200
But it was just, you know, I had all these ideas in my head.

862
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,960
I'm like, OK, OK, yeah, I'll work a family guy for a year and then I'll try to get like

863
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,960
a director.

864
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Like, you know, you don't move out here ambitious and then stop being ambitious.

865
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,160
It's like, all right, what are my next steps?

866
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,600
But then the pandemic hits and I'm like, oh my God, thank God I have a job.

867
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Yeah.

868
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200
And I've been very loyal to family guy.

869
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,640
And even through that time, just as I've been working on my own personal ambition and thinking

870
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:54,040
about what's next, it's like it's always been but never at the cost of family guy.

871
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Like I got to make sure I'd be a good employee.

872
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,920
But because I was a good employee parking cars for seven years, I could be a good employee

873
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,920
to family guy.

874
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,760
I was also keeping my dreams alive.

875
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
But so that's the short of how I got into family guy.

876
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,640
And what's nice about it is I feel like my animation journey has been completely opposite.

877
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:21,920
Like a lot of people they go and they learn traditional drawing and then like the 12 fundamentals

878
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,280
of animation and then they learn software and special effects and all that stuff.

879
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,280
And I came in the opposite.

880
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,680
I was like, okay, what's this software?

881
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,680
What does this do?

882
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,000
And learned all this crazy stuff.

883
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,520
And then I was like, oh, I need to learn how to draw.

884
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,080
And family guy is a bit old school in how they do things.

885
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,560
They bent a box like all the board artists are doing all kinds of crazy like animatic

886
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,640
type of stuff but family guy has its own department for it.

887
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,440
So the directors and all, they're very on top of what each panel looks like.

888
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,680
How does each individual drawing look like?

889
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,960
So it's been a good experience for me because you could watch family guy and think that

890
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,440
the characters look very flat.

891
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,400
And like, oh, there's a very 2D flat characters but trust me, it could look a lot worse.

892
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,920
It could look much worse.

893
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,160
And so with the limited lines that you have for the characters, they teach us how to make

894
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:23,560
sure that they keep that volume that they're believable in their posing and acting.

895
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
And so it's been a great experience.

896
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,440
I think the most amazing thing for me at this point is to go from parking cars eight hours

897
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:38,360
a day to doing something eight hours a day that makes me better at the things that I'm

898
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,200
passionate about.

899
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,200
That's what's amazing.

900
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,600
It's like, okay, I clock in and by the time I clock out, even if I've done nothing for

901
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,080
my own personal project, I've gotten better at what I do.

902
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,600
So that's been the greatest part of it for me.

903
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Also one of the things with the animation, I'm a huge Looney Tunes type fan.

904
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,120
And that's what I wanted to go do.

905
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,240
I wanted to go work at Warner Brothers but I want to do voices.

906
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:06,840
You wanted to be Mel Block?

907
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,840
Yeah.

908
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,840
Yeah, man.

909
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,120
I loved that dude when I was growing up.

910
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,320
I don't know.

911
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Making my own voices or whatever has always been a challenge but I think I could have

912
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,400
done it.

913
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,040
Yeah, but Mel Block, that was one of my idols kind of coming up.

914
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,480
And then one time I got to work with Charles Fleischer who was the voice of Roger Rabbit.

915
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,520
I got to work with him one time in DC.

916
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,520
That was a really cool experience but I didn't have to lose in touch with him.

917
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,600
So with the animation part of it, I think it's really cool because the animation, I

918
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,600
know that from my own research that Family Guy, and I love the show.

919
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,240
I mean, it's literally one of my all time favorite shows, especially in animation because

920
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:46,960
it is the content in it and some of the social commentary but also just the plain basic level

921
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,760
of comedy that it does sometimes is really cool.

922
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,680
And so I know that the animation that they do there is sort of old school animation and

923
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,760
sort of made into more of a modern day sort of animation that kind of take the two, kind

924
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,760
of combine them.

925
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,760
Is that a good way to describe it?

926
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,760
Yeah.

927
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:11,000
And one thing that the producers are very proud of is Family Guy is one of the few animations

928
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,160
that's still hand drawn.

929
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Yeah.

930
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,200
Like when it gets shipped over, it's like what you watch on TV, even though it looks

931
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,600
much cleaner than it did, you know, 15, 20 years ago, it is still hand drawn.

932
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,520
It is still like pencil and paper that they do over in Korea.

933
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Like the storyboarding we all do digitally.

934
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:37,200
But I mean, before I got there, they did do it on like stickies and notepads and stuff

935
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:45,880
and but yeah, it's all it's that it is still traditional animation that's done over there

936
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,480
and it is sometimes cool.

937
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,840
It's like the directors, what they can request is they can have, you know, the Korea is going

938
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,680
to work on the whole animation but they might have a handful of scenes that they're like,

939
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,600
I don't know how that's going to look.

940
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Like just based off the storyboard, I'm not sure how the movement is going to be so they

941
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,920
can request a pencil test.

942
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:12,240
So they'll do a pencil test animation of certain scenes so they can get it, review it and kind

943
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:18,600
of like try to spice it up, fix it however before it gets finalized and colored and all

944
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,600
that stuff.

945
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,600
But it's like when you see things without all the color and all that, you kind of realize

946
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,720
you go, oh wow, yeah, that's a drawing.

947
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:28,720
They drew that.

948
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:29,720
Yeah.

949
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,960
And then the listeners and people would know a pencil test.

950
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,960
So if you watch like DVD extras, a lot of times they'll have like the extra and they'll

951
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,280
have a scene and it won't be the actual animated movie but it'll be like a scene from the movie

952
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,280
and you'll see it and it's drawn like a pen.

953
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,600
That's like a pencil test, right?

954
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,600
Is that correct?

955
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Yeah.

956
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Yeah.

957
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,600
Oh, yeah.

958
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Family Guy is still going strong at that.

959
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,360
They haven't changed their pipeline.

960
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,000
They've just refined and improved it.

961
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Family Guy is a well-oiled machine.

962
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:07,800
Like for such an irreverent show, it is such a good work culture.

963
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,160
Like everybody there is nice.

964
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:18,520
Like if anything, one of the biggest blessings I've had beyond what I said before in terms

965
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:27,200
of my own creative endeavors is that they are a corporate job but they are also very

966
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,760
respectful.

967
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:35,920
Nobody there is forced to like do crazy hours or unrealistic expectations.

968
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:41,920
If you feel like you can't get something done, they'll get someone to help you.

969
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,880
It's definitely a dream job just in terms of it's a job, right?

970
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,720
We all have jobs that we've got to work but at least it's one where it's like they look

971
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,440
out for their employees.

972
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,060
It's not like some of these horror stories that you hear at certain studios where they're

973
00:50:58,060 --> 00:51:02,000
offering the employees cocaine just to keep them up all night to get the work done.

974
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,360
I know a lot of people who would have wanted to work at that studio.

975
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,320
Not me, I'm just saying other people I know.

976
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Yes, but cocaine to get more work done, that sounds great.

977
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Yeah, you're going to do a lot of great work on that too, right?

978
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,160
High quality work.

979
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Yeah.

980
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Wow.

981
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,440
It's very much been a blessing in terms of the job.

982
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,880
All right, so I have to ask because anybody listening to this would have to ask.

983
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:37,420
I'm sure they ask you all the time who from the show that we actually hear, we don't see

984
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:43,400
but actually hear, including people like Seth MacFarlane and people like that, who have you

985
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,880
met, who have you rubbed elbows with at all?

986
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,880
You got to tell this.

987
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,200
That's a much better question.

988
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,800
Usually the question is have you met Seth?

989
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,800
Have you met Seth?

990
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,800
No, I want to know.

991
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,800
Mila Kunis is on there.

992
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,160
Yeah, you got all kinds of really cool people on there.

993
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360
I have.

994
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,360
So I've had a conversation with Alex Borstein.

995
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,360
Oh, yeah.

996
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,360
I didn't say it.

997
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Yeah.

998
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,360
Of Matt TV fame, she was.

999
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,360
Yes.

1000
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,360
Oh, you look like a man, Miss Swan.

1001
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,360
Absolutely.

1002
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,840
I went straight to it too.

1003
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,840
Absolutely.

1004
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,840
Yeah.

1005
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,840
She's brilliant.

1006
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,840
She's great.

1007
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,800
And they like to tease her now because she's won awards on The Amazing Miss Maisel.

1008
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Mm hmm, just carrying on that too.

1009
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,920
And but it was just like we had Family Guy's 500th episode.

1010
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,960
There was like a party and it just so happened the table we sat at was right next to Alex

1011
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,920
and her parents that were there.

1012
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,920
I feel.

1013
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,440
Well, okay, kind of a funny side story about it.

1014
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,560
So it's like I haven't like I haven't had like a conversation with Seth.

1015
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,640
I have talked to like Mike Henry, who is the voice of Cleveland, who used to be the voice

1016
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,180
of Cleveland, who was from Virginia, right?

1017
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:58,180
From Richmond, Virginia.

1018
00:52:58,180 --> 00:52:59,180
Yeah.

1019
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:00,600
He went to collegiate high school and all that.

1020
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,440
I actually met him when I was in high school because I gave him the spec script of Family

1021
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Guy when I was like, I was like, I want to write for your show.

1022
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,400
And so I got to talk to him about that.

1023
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,400
I'm like, do you remember that?

1024
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,960
And he's I don't know.

1025
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,960
And it's like, it's cool.

1026
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,960
It's cool.

1027
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,480
Okay, here you are.

1028
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:28,480
But what's funny is, so he stepped down from doing Cleveland and then there is this guy

1029
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,200
that I know, Arif, that he was doing his own Cleveland impression while playing like Call

1030
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,200
of Duty and stuff.

1031
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,440
He had this big YouTube channel, like millions of subscribers on there and one of the directors

1032
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,960
that I've worked with on there, like he's like, hey, do you know this guy, Arif?

1033
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,200
Oh yeah, me and him.

1034
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,840
We talked before, we tried to work together on indie animations and he's dude, he's a

1035
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,840
great Cleveland.

1036
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,280
And I was like, yeah, no, he's awesome.

1037
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,920
He's a super nice guy and we should bring him in, right?

1038
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,880
I was like, dude, you would never regret it, right?

1039
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:10,800
And so the producers were thinking about bringing Arif in to be the new Cleveland and so I texted

1040
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Arif, yo man, they're gonna reach out.

1041
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:19,600
They're gonna reach out, like practice your A, B and C take, you know, like try to be

1042
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,600
ready for it, right?

1043
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,600
And so obviously under his own talent and hard work, he got the gig, but it was really

1044
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:34,040
cool that we both knew each other before either of us worked at Family Guy, but then now like

1045
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:40,000
he's now doing The Voice of Cleveland and I'm drawing out what Cleveland's actions are

1046
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,000
gonna be anytime.

1047
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,000
That's pretty cool.

1048
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,480
Well, the whole thing with Mike Henry was with him stepping down as being The Voice

1049
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,400
of Cleveland was he was a white guy doing The Voice of a black guy, right?

1050
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,560
And then so he decided he wasn't gonna do it anymore and then Arif came in and took

1051
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,560
it over.

1052
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,560
I can cut that part out.

1053
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,560
Which is great for Arif.

1054
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Yeah, absolutely.

1055
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,560
There's nothing wrong with it.

1056
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,920
I think it's a great thing because Mike Henry is fine.

1057
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,080
It didn't displace him any.

1058
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,160
He does have the voices on the show anyway.

1059
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Yeah, he was very fine with it.

1060
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,640
He's still getting residuals for any past time he's doing Cleveland and it's great for

1061
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Arif because he's someone that can do the role and now he's able to, you know, make

1062
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,760
a living off of his own talent.

1063
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,760
I think it's a great thing.

1064
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:34,520
If we're speaking politically, voiceover is not the realm for appropriation or racial

1065
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:42,280
gatekeeping because part of the fun of it is that you can be anybody, you can do anything.

1066
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,760
It's your voice, you can shape it to whatever character.

1067
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,160
It's like, okay, if we have alien characters, do we need to go out to outer space and pass

1068
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,160
aliens?

1069
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,160
No.

1070
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,080
It's whoever can do The Voice or it could even work in reverse, right?

1071
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:04,160
You know, you've got Phil Lamar, great voiceover actor, you know, he's been the judge and family

1072
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,160
guy.

1073
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,720
He's also great on mad TV.

1074
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:11,640
He's also Samurai Jack, who's an Asian character.

1075
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,320
So is it bad that he did it?

1076
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,280
No, of course it's not bad that he did it.

1077
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,280
He was great.

1078
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,280
He's iconic.

1079
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,640
He did an amazing job.

1080
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,780
So I feel like we just kind of got to be careful in that realm.

1081
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:25,200
Animation is imagination, right?

1082
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Right.

1083
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Well, that's one of the great things about animation that I've always thought was really

1084
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,140
cool is that you don't, the only budget you need is the budget to be able to make it happen

1085
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:35,140
on a screen.

1086
00:56:35,140 --> 00:56:39,960
I don't even really watch the show, but it was like a behind the cameras view of some

1087
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,320
big scene on Game of Thrones, right?

1088
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,680
And it was a bunch of army and it was a bunch of explosions and a bunch of other stuff going

1089
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,040
off and everything else like that.

1090
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,760
And it's just like this huge movie set, like this whole hundreds of people were running

1091
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,300
across and you don't have to do animation.

1092
00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:55,360
You can just make it whatever.

1093
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,180
And it's one of the things I always, I always really loved about it.

1094
00:56:58,180 --> 00:56:59,180
Really cool.

1095
00:56:59,180 --> 00:57:00,960
So what is the typical day for you?

1096
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,040
Do you work from home?

1097
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,080
I was wondering, are you actually go to an office or do you, when you actually-

1098
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Yeah, there's family guys one or just a lot of family guys specifically is not really

1099
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,360
planning on bringing everybody back to the office.

1100
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,360
So that'll change with COVID, right?

1101
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,360
Everybody you-

1102
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Yeah, everybody left, but that, you know, again, like we have nine directors on the

1103
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,880
show and they're all pretty seasoned.

1104
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,360
They've been doing it forever.

1105
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Like over half of them have been on the show from like the start, right?

1106
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,240
And they don't want to go back.

1107
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,600
They don't want to go back to the office.

1108
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,040
And it's like family guy can't function without them.

1109
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,440
So they're pretty much calling the shots and the family guy is getting a new office, but

1110
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,720
it's a smaller office with the intention of everybody not coming back.

1111
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,880
They're like, all right, we're going to downsize so that some people can come in, but other

1112
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,240
people don't have to.

1113
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,480
And my position is definitely one that doesn't have to come in.

1114
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,760
We kind of work in a bubble.

1115
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:12,800
So a typical work cycle for me would be is I get assigned to an episode and with a director

1116
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:19,580
and then the director will give me about a third of the episode, like in terms of different

1117
00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:24,200
scenes throughout, like however they want to disperse it, but they, you know, the script

1118
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:30,400
is about 40 pages, so they'll give me about 12 pages or maybe more depending on how it

1119
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,400
reads.

1120
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,760
But I get assigned that and then I get a chance to kind of look through it, figure out what

1121
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,600
complications I may or may not have, any questions I may have for clarity about something and

1122
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:49,020
then we jump on a call with the writers and it's called our storyboard launch.

1123
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:54,760
And so that's the opportunity for the director and any of us artists to kind of ask any questions

1124
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,360
like, hey, when you said this, were you imagining Stewie wearing his normal outfit or should

1125
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,520
he be wearing like a sailor's hat or something?

1126
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,560
Like what were you thinking when you wrote that?

1127
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:10,860
So any kind of clarity that we want or anything like that.

1128
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:17,320
And then we go through essentially a three-step process where we do what's called the thumbnail

1129
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:22,320
storyboards and that's where we keep things really loose, really rough.

1130
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,080
We're just kind of getting those early ideas out there like, okay, so we're thinking the

1131
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,920
camera's here and maybe Stewie's on the couch and Brian comes walking in stage left, right?

1132
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,080
And they're like, no, no, no, no, let's do it from over here and let's have Stewie on

1133
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,080
the floor, not on the couch, right?

1134
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:43,080
It's just like we want to keep it loose because we want to be able to change the ideas easily.

1135
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:48,160
So if one idea isn't working, you don't want to put all this work in and they go, nope,

1136
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,680
we're cutting all of that.

1137
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:57,840
So we do the thumbnails, keep it real loose and then we pitch that to the supervisor director

1138
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,480
and we're like, okay, so we're thinking of doing this, right?

1139
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,080
We're going to do this, this, this.

1140
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:07,480
And then they get their input and then we go and do what's called comps or A panels

1141
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:14,400
and that's where we take the frame with the most information of any certain shot, whether

1142
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:21,800
it's the establishing shot or Brian and Stewie and Stewie's room and we go and put everything

1143
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:22,800
on model.

1144
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,480
We go, okay, this is what the shot's going to look like.

1145
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:35,280
And so then the director can say, the crib's too small or Brian's too big compared to Stewie.

1146
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,480
It's very much the math of it, like, okay, this is not working respective wise or, you

1147
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,520
know, let's swap these things around.

1148
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:50,520
So once we've put every shot to that test, then we act them all out.

1149
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,520
Then we get to have fun.

1150
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,360
We bring in the audio track, hear the acting of the characters and kind of imagine what

1151
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,240
their gestures are.

1152
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:04,840
And overall, family guy, we have a lot of typical go-to poses, but every once in a while

1153
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,440
you can squeeze in some fun acting.

1154
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:13,240
We're like, oh, what if he like did some weird curtsy thing on that line?

1155
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:22,360
And every board artist is different, but I always do try to throw in something odd to

1156
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,720
see if it sticks and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it's like, you won't know

1157
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,600
unless you try.

1158
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:36,520
So then you throw that in there and then it gets thrown to each person above you and they

1159
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:42,600
give their notes and then either a revisionist will clean up or it might go right back to

1160
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,600
me and I cleaned up.

1161
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,560
It's usually easier when the person who's had the entire time sees it through.

1162
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:56,400
But yeah, and that process can take two to three months per episode.

1163
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,480
So there's a lot of activity early on when we start, right?

1164
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,880
A lot of talking to different people, a lot of figuring things out.

1165
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:07,200
But then right now where I'm at, and one of the reasons why I had some availability is

1166
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,920
I'm actually between episodes.

1167
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,400
I finished one episode and they're figuring some things out before putting me on another

1168
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,400
one.

1169
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,400
So I'm just kind of helping out on another episode.

1170
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,880
So the director's like, here, do this.

1171
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,880
I'm like, okay, okay.

1172
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Yeah, because you were saying yesterday this was a light week for you, but then next week

1173
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,920
that could all change.

1174
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,400
And then you know when it's coming, right?

1175
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,320
But you have your lulls and then you have your peak times, right?

1176
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,320
Yeah.

1177
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,120
Well, we also go through what's called hiatus.

1178
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,720
So it's almost near the end.

1179
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,120
So whichever episode I work on next, it's either going to be the second to last or the

1180
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,720
last episode of the season.

1181
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:50,320
So after that, there's going to be kind of like a hangover period where there's just

1182
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,440
not much work for board artists.

1183
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,480
So they ask us to take some unpaid time off.

1184
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:05,040
But versus the wilds of other shows, it works out all the same.

1185
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,080
So I'm like, yeah, great.

1186
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,280
You work on other things and then you do family stuff, right?

1187
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,940
Speaking of family guy, right?

1188
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:13,940
Every show has that.

1189
01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:16,160
It's just a production type of a situation.

1190
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,560
And that's just the way it works out.

1191
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,720
That's so cool, man.

1192
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:25,760
It's so cool that you have this job that is just, I'm not jealous.

1193
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,280
I don't know what the word is for it.

1194
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,360
Yes, I don't know.

1195
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,360
But you earned it.

1196
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,360
So that's really cool.

1197
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,360
That's really, really cool.

1198
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,360
I appreciate that.

1199
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:38,000
I appreciate that perspective on it because you can easily take it in either direction.

1200
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,000
Sure.

1201
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,800
And I don't like people who do that.

1202
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,320
And I'm not going to say I'm not going to sit here and say that I've never been guilty

1203
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,320
of doing that.

1204
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,000
I don't when I was younger, if I'd known you like, all right, like I'm 50 now, right?

1205
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,840
But if I'd known you and what was going on and it was I was 30.

1206
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,840
Yeah.

1207
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,200
Well, how the hell did you get on there, man?

1208
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,200
I could do that.

1209
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,520
I could do hell, man.

1210
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,240
But I know and I know you've earned it, too.

1211
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,240
That's also part of the equation.

1212
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Don't get me wrong.

1213
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,880
But I look at people who are in situations like you now with so much more of a hell yeah.

1214
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,960
And I don't even care who the person is.

1215
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,680
I don't even know.

1216
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,900
You could be one of those people walk around going, do you know who I am?

1217
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:21,960
But I would still I would still go for that, dude, because because I know you got there.

1218
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:29,160
Well, this may sound silly, but I you know, when I worked parking cars, one of the fun

1219
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,960
things about is we had so much time to just stand around and talk because we just wait

1220
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,480
for residents to come home.

1221
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:41,480
But like a lot of my coworkers were like actors or musicians or what?

1222
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,280
We're all on that Hollywood pursuit.

1223
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:53,960
But I would say that the mentality is in your head, you have the ego of of the all time

1224
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,280
greats in your head.

1225
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,640
You tell yourself I'm as good as Charlie Chaplin or I'm as good as Tarantino or whatever.

1226
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:06,280
But you don't act on that ego until after you've done all the things to prove it.

1227
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,280
Right.

1228
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,360
To me, what carries me, what pushes me is telling me it's like I can be as great as

1229
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:19,040
them, but it takes years and years and years of hard work and refining and practicing and

1230
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,040
improving.

1231
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:27,360
And so I don't get to believe or act on that belief until after I've done it all.

1232
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:34,320
And so right now, I'm very happy with with what I'm doing, but I have nothing on my resume

1233
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,360
to justify any level of ego.

1234
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,360
Right.

1235
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,280
Well, I think it's really cool.

1236
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,200
I mean, you're definitely have it's definitely an achievement, though, that nobody can take

1237
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,200
away.

1238
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,400
You definitely have made it to one of the most known shows in all of the world, much

1239
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,080
less, I think, in human history.

1240
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,080
You can't go anywhere.

1241
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,240
I remember one time, a while back, I was talking to a friend of mine.

1242
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,480
He was in Asia, I believe he said Thailand.

1243
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,320
And he said that he was walking down the street and there was all these there was a cart that

1244
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,080
all these bootleg DVDs of Family Guy.

1245
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,320
And apparently the guy had just got a bunch in and people were literally like lined up

1246
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,360
to buy these bootleg.

1247
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,440
I don't know if they're bootleg.

1248
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,800
They probably were, but they were buying Family Guy DVDs.

1249
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:15,800
He said they looked bootleg.

1250
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,000
But yeah, they were just they were just it's just that popular and people were just like,

1251
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,000
yeah, yeah.

1252
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,840
And they were just money hand over fist for those things.

1253
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:30,680
And Family Guy did such a good job of knowing like their top priority was always be funny.

1254
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,080
I know other other shows, other stories have different priorities to like we're going to

1255
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,840
be funny, but also have meaning or whatever it is.

1256
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,560
Family Guy is like, we will cut in the middle of the story just to tell you a funny joke.

1257
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,560
We don't have the cutaways.

1258
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,400
I mean, they are synonymous for the cutaways.

1259
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,400
This is like the time I ended up in such and such and then it cuts away and it's, you know,

1260
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Peter getting ahead with the bowling ball or something, right?

1261
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,000
You know what I'm saying?

1262
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,000
And it's like, boom, and it goes back.

1263
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,560
Now those are awesome.

1264
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,640
So what do you what are your?

1265
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,600
Well, I mean, you have a family now, too.

1266
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,120
So this is I was talking about that.

1267
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,880
So where did you I know you're married.

1268
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,320
You have a you have a son is a Dorb's man.

1269
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,320
That kid's adorable.

1270
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,320
He is.

1271
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,320
I was awesome.

1272
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,640
Yeah, it's it reminds me because my kid's 11 now, but he's very big for his age.

1273
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,600
He's he's 11, but he's like 510.

1274
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,600
I like he's tall.

1275
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Yeah, he's always tall as me.

1276
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,720
I'm like six foot.

1277
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,960
And but he doesn't look like a little kid much anymore.

1278
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,000
But I go back and I look at the old pictures of him and it reminds me of when I've seen

1279
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,600
a picture of you and your family.

1280
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,440
I'm like, man, cool looking kid.

1281
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,240
So how did you how did you meet your wife?

1282
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,440
If you don't mind dancing, you better.

1283
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,440
Oh, OK.

1284
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,440
OK.

1285
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,440
Salsa dancing that.

1286
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:45,520
Yeah, like I what I I was born shameless.

1287
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,520
My mother raised me to be shameless.

1288
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,920
So what that's one thing that made it easy to do standard writing like I'll talk about

1289
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,800
whatever on stage, whatever.

1290
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,340
But I would always clam up and get embarrassed when it came to dancing.

1291
01:07:58,340 --> 01:08:00,520
So I was like, I'm going to change that.

1292
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,080
And it was funny because I had my best friend at the time.

1293
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,480
We were like trying to get out and do more social things.

1294
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,920
And he's like, I'm thinking of taking hip hop classes.

1295
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,960
And I was like, I agree with you, but salsa.

1296
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,720
And he's like salsa.

1297
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,200
I'm like, yeah, it's partner work.

1298
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,120
Like you have to dance with somebody.

1299
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,480
Yeah, but like, yeah, not you, though, dude.

1300
01:08:23,480 --> 01:08:24,480
Right.

1301
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:25,480
Like, that's what I would say.

1302
01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:26,480
I'm not dancing with you.

1303
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:27,480
Right.

1304
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:28,480
So you got so you got partnered with her.

1305
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:31,400
Let's say, if you don't mind.

1306
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Yes.

1307
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,400
Yeah.

1308
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,400
Yeah.

1309
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:41,480
Leslie and and it was just like it was great because it kind of played out as I could only

1310
01:08:41,480 --> 01:08:47,160
hope like took the classes, got got good enough that I don't embarrass myself on the dance

1311
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,160
floor.

1312
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:54,100
And then they that same teacher hosted like a salsa night at a club.

1313
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:57,320
So I would always try to go to those because there'd be people that I knew from class and

1314
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:04,080
whatnot, but then I danced with her and we had a great time.

1315
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,080
And then like I was looking for another partner, whatever, because you dance with a bunch of

1316
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,080
people.

1317
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,940
It's like, you know, just whatever between songs.

1318
01:09:10,940 --> 01:09:14,960
And then I saw her again and she just like shuffled over with this big smile on her face.

1319
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,200
And I was just I need that enthusiasm in my life.

1320
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,240
And it turned out that's just who she is.

1321
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Right.

1322
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:27,760
And in terms of like dating and stuff, I cannot give advice because I feel like it was very

1323
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,760
much luck.

1324
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:29,760
Right.

1325
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:36,080
Like you just go out and but in terms of compatibility between partners, you could look for any number

1326
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:42,040
of things, but me and her on the same wavelength, we have the same type of enthusiasm and energy

1327
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,320
and that just makes a world of difference.

1328
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,920
Like I've gone on dates with girls where it's just, you know, they might be a little bit

1329
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,160
like, oh, opposite attract, right?

1330
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:55,140
Like I'm I'm boisterous and outgoing and she's quiet and reserved.

1331
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:57,080
It's like, no, man, no, not going to happen.

1332
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,080
It doesn't work.

1333
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,800
We both got like we joke that it's like donkey and donkey on another world with adventure.

1334
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,440
We're just two donkeys going on crazy adventures together.

1335
01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:09,440
No Shrek in this picture.

1336
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:10,760
I mean, that's awesome, dude.

1337
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,680
And that they're great looking family.

1338
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,160
I'm happy for you in that.

1339
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,160
But what are your plans for the future?

1340
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,120
Obviously you got the solid with the family guy.

1341
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,400
But what are you looking to do down the road that you would possibly expand on what the

1342
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,400
creativeness of what Patrick McCarthy, of who Patrick McCarthy is?

1343
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:35,480
I mean, like the original intention was to, you know, tell my own stories, right?

1344
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:40,320
So but so much of my time in L.A. has been figuring out what does that mean?

1345
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,520
What does that look like?

1346
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:48,160
And not only like how does that look from a professional and technical standpoint, but

1347
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,480
also what's the story I'm telling, which sounds silly.

1348
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:57,760
But you know, one thing that's beautiful about standup is you're answering that question

1349
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,080
without realizing it.

1350
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:05,480
So when you do standup, you get up there and you do 30 minutes of material and then and

1351
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:10,080
then if you want, you could take a moment and go, what did I choose to say with that

1352
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,080
time?

1353
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:18,000
I had a couple hundred people in front of me and I decided I wanted to talk about politics

1354
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,600
or I wanted to talk about my family.

1355
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,000
It's like, OK, so did these things matter to you?

1356
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,000
Like, well, no.

1357
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,880
Then why did you get up on stage and talk about it?

1358
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,720
Like, what matters to you?

1359
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,560
And the same thing exists.

1360
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:37,960
And like, if I'm going to put years of my life trying to get a story told and made and

1361
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:45,200
get networks to be behind it, is this a story that I need to tell that that is important

1362
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,200
to me?

1363
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,720
Is it important to me?

1364
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,640
Because otherwise, motivation will wane at some point.

1365
01:11:53,640 --> 01:12:02,760
So I kind of just like made sure that whatever I make is doesn't when I say meaningful, it's

1366
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:11,920
just essentially out here, they say make what you love.

1367
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,920
Right.

1368
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,760
So when you hear that saying, you're like, OK, well, I love sci-fi horror.

1369
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,000
OK, so then make a sci-fi horror.

1370
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,880
That's what you need to make because that's what you love.

1371
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,880
And that's good enough.

1372
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:32,680
But I also have like heard, you know, it's be who you needed when you were younger.

1373
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,960
When were you vulnerable?

1374
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,940
When were you turning to entertainment?

1375
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:38,880
When were you in need of it?

1376
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Right.

1377
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,680
For me personally, that was when I was 11 or 12.

1378
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,360
My parents going through a divorce, you know, much turbulence in the household.

1379
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,680
And that's when I'm watching Dragon Ball Z, playing Pokemon, watching Family Guy.

1380
01:12:53,680 --> 01:13:00,600
These are the things keeping me oblivious to what's going on in a good way.

1381
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,600
Right.

1382
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,600
That's how I got into stand up, man.

1383
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,600
Yeah.

1384
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,600
Yeah.

1385
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,840
Parents are going through a divorce when I was a kid.

1386
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:12,200
And one of the things that I remember one time I mean, we didn't know about him then.

1387
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,120
I would tell the story of Bill Cosby.

1388
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,280
My mom, I think they were separated, but my mom and dad were fighting about something.

1389
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,800
My mom took me in my room and put on a Bill Cosby record.

1390
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,120
Oh, and I listened to it.

1391
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,440
And I just, you know, back then he was, you know, he was everybody's second dad.

1392
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:35,600
But yeah, no, that's funny because I have thought lately on my own because I, you know,

1393
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,920
I did stand up for a bit there and then I got out of it and I got, I've gotten back

1394
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:39,920
into it.

1395
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,160
I've been doing some here and there when I can.

1396
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:46,800
And one of the things that I've, I'll literally think of a joke and I'll go, no, and I won't

1397
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,800
do it.

1398
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,640
And even I'll tell my wife and she'll laugh at it because she did.

1399
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,200
And I'll try my jokes on her and she doesn't laugh a lot of times.

1400
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,200
Right.

1401
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,760
But there was one recently that I did.

1402
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,520
I said to her and I go, yeah.

1403
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,520
And she goes, that's really funny.

1404
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,880
I go, nah, that's not going to work because I try to think of what I would have laughed

1405
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:02,880
at when I was younger.

1406
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,360
Do you know what I mean?

1407
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,280
I'm like, what would I have laughed at?

1408
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:07,280
Yeah.

1409
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,640
So that's what I'm, that's my point of that was like the correlation between the two.

1410
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:11,640
Yeah.

1411
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,640
Be your favorite comedian.

1412
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,640
Yeah.

1413
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:18,280
I need to start writing for myself, not, because I really, I fully admit there was a lot of

1414
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:24,200
times I'd be on the road, you know, I'm writing jokes for drunk people on a Friday or Saturday

1415
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,420
night at 11 o'clock when all these people should be home with their children instead

1416
01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:30,120
of paying somebody else to watch them.

1417
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,120
You know what I mean?

1418
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,200
Like what do those people want to hear?

1419
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,200
No, I need to.

1420
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,200
That's awesome.

1421
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,200
Totally.

1422
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:44,560
And I kind of, I kind of had that epiphany when, what was it?

1423
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,000
2017.

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:54,400
So in 2017, I broke up with my then girlfriend and we had been sharing a place together.

1425
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:01,480
So I knew that the only way I was going to be out here in LA by myself was I would need

1426
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:05,480
to spend some time back in my car to save up some money.

1427
01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:10,240
So I went back in my car, I was in my car for like four months that time around.

1428
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:11,240
Really?

1429
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,240
Yeah.

1430
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:17,760
And, but I had, I was working at that valet place and it was a 24 hour building.

1431
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,920
So sometimes I would just sneak into an empty office and sleep on the floor there, but it

1432
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:28,280
was just what I could do to make sure I had enough money saved up so I could put a safe

1433
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:33,680
security deposit, find a place with something of affordable rent.

1434
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:41,720
Like don't want to talk finances too much, but essentially in my time out here, I was

1435
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:48,780
essentially using a credit card and was using that to essentially fund my dream.

1436
01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:53,480
So it's like every year I was just building a little bit more debt.

1437
01:15:53,480 --> 01:16:00,640
I was just like, I was paying my bills, but I was just a little bit of debt.

1438
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,560
And so that's what it's like, okay, well, if I need to have actual cash on hand because

1439
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,480
you can't just use a credit card for rent.

1440
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:14,760
So it's in my car, but then during that time when I was transitioning back to a place,

1441
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:20,760
I was just, I just felt like the world was kind of not over, not so dramatic, but I was

1442
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:25,560
like, okay, restart of my life, new breakups or breakups.

1443
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,400
But I was watching the anime Naruto.

1444
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,400
Okay.

1445
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,720
I'm hanging with it, but yeah.

1446
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,960
But it was just like, it was for a different generation.

1447
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:36,960
Like it wasn't my generation.

1448
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,080
My generation was watching Dragon Ball Z, right?

1449
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,280
We were loving that.

1450
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:46,800
But I was watching that and I went, man, like 11, 12 year old me would go nuts for this.

1451
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:52,080
And then I was like, man, there's a version of me that would go nuts for something.

1452
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,640
Like, cause current me doesn't go nuts for anything.

1453
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,640
I'm current me.

1454
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:56,640
It's like, oh yeah, I might go see that.

1455
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,080
I might go do that too.

1456
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:04,640
But there's a version of me and who knows me better than me that can obsess over something.

1457
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,160
So just as you did, right?

1458
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:11,320
It's like, okay, let me write a story that I believe 11, 12 year old me would love to

1459
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,680
obsess over.

1460
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:20,800
I feel like I've been doing that and so where I find myself currently is I've finished a

1461
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:26,800
trailer for my own show and I've been kind of shopping it around.

1462
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,000
And shopping is a weird term.

1463
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,120
Like there's the Hollywood jargon where it was like, oh yeah, you know, doing this, doing

1464
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,440
that, pitching it around.

1465
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:38,440
I gave myself this whole year to understand what the hell does that mean?

1466
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:41,960
What does that mean to like itch and shop it around?

1467
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:48,320
Cause it's a crazy game and these executives that are in charge of that stuff, they have

1468
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:53,240
their game that they know how to play and you're trying to play by it.

1469
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:59,560
And, but at the same time, I'm, I don't, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm trying

1470
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,240
to figure it out as I go.

1471
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:07,180
So I made a trailer, put it into some film festivals just to see who I meet at these

1472
01:18:07,180 --> 01:18:12,600
things and learn about, you know, could I make it on my own?

1473
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:18,600
Could I self invest and, and, and produce and then later, later get it on a platform,

1474
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,640
you know, because there's shows that have done that.

1475
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:26,360
There's, there's all kinds of new ways of getting it done out there, but so I'm just

1476
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:36,200
trying to be diligent, but so yeah, made my own fantasy comedy series and yeah, right

1477
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:42,920
now talk to some people, other things, but at the same time, trying to be calm about

1478
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:43,920
it.

1479
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,920
Right.

1480
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,520
You're believing yourself always, right?

1481
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,640
But you want to kind of stay grounded, I guess is the term on the, maybe I'm looking for.

1482
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Well, it's also, it's like, um, a lot of writers that I've met, you know, they'll write half

1483
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,640
a dozen different pilots for different show ideas, whatever.

1484
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,920
Cause they're just trying to throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.

1485
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,360
And it's kind of like in comedy, right?

1486
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,440
He's, Oh, I'll go do an open mic or like Chris Rock will do like three hours of material,

1487
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:11,000
toss out two of it.

1488
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,000
Right.

1489
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,000
Yeah.

1490
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000
I'm not trying to do that.

1491
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Right.

1492
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,440
I put my time and energy into this because this is the story I'm going to tell.

1493
01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:20,480
This isn't, I'm not seeing if it's going to stick.

1494
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:25,400
I've, I've worked it reworked it, reworked it, but execs aren't used to that.

1495
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,680
So I throw something over to them and they might just go, okay, yeah, yeah, thank you,

1496
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:33,240
no, thank you, because it doesn't hit them right away.

1497
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,720
Because they feel like that's how much work you put into it.

1498
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,520
They're like, well, you just put that initial work into it.

1499
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,320
So I'm just going to give it a quick glance, but who knows?

1500
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,560
I might be talking out my ass for all I know.

1501
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:52,040
So I'm just going to put it out there, follow up with them, try to get feedback from executives

1502
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:59,320
and see if I can't get one of them to go, Hey, actually this works.

1503
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:00,320
That's awesome.

1504
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,400
Well, I wish you luck on that, man.

1505
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,400
It's so cool.

1506
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,080
You know, one of the things I know about LA is it's hard to deal with rejection.

1507
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:11,280
Like, you know, it's kind of, you know, you deal with a lot of it in all the entertainment

1508
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,280
business.

1509
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,280
I don't know.

1510
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,440
It's kind of one of the reasons I was like, I don't know what Patrick says, no, to coming

1511
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:18,640
on the podcast, but then you were, you were so cool about it.

1512
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,280
Well, if you, if you, Hey, if you need anybody, let me know.

1513
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,920
You got my number, but that's awesome, man.

1514
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,440
I really appreciate you coming on here and wish you the best of luck and all that.

1515
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:32,640
And you're welcome back anytime and keep me posted, man.

1516
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,400
I really, I want to see what you do.

1517
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,520
And of course, every time I watch Family Guy, I'll be looking at the end.

1518
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,520
There's Patrick.

1519
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,520
There's his name.

1520
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,720
But no, it's really, you got to pause it because it's trying to go to the next show.

1521
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,720
Right.

1522
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:45,720
Well, it really is cool.

1523
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:50,120
And I don't know, for instance, like what you actually work on, but it is cool since

1524
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,840
I've known you've been working on the show that sometimes I do watch an episode.

1525
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,040
I go, Oh, I, and I wonder which ones you, you might be doing.

1526
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,080
Like I wonder which, which frames you might've been working on, which is really cool.

1527
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:06,520
Well, I think I just check, uh, of the latest season of Family Guy for, for any of your

1528
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,400
listeners that want to check it out.

1529
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:15,880
I think that two of the more recent ones, lifeguard Meg and supermarket Pete of this

1530
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,360
current season, I worked on those ones.

1531
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:27,400
And so if you watch lifeguard Meg, if Stewie and Brian are in a cafe, I probably did that.

1532
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,880
Not all of them because the directory, he split them up to different ones, but I definitely

1533
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:40,680
did a lot of stuff with Stewie and Brian running a cafe and, and the, uh, supermarket, supermarket

1534
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,220
Pete one.

1535
01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:48,840
If you see Joe and Brian together, it was probably me because definitely anytime they're

1536
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:53,200
at the drug and clan and supermarket Pete, I, I, I boarded all of that.

1537
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,240
So cool, man.

1538
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,240
Yeah.

1539
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,160
That's really neat.

1540
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,280
That's really, really neat, man.

1541
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,280
I'm happy for you, dude.

1542
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,720
I really appreciate you taking the time to do all of this.

1543
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,720
Oh yeah.

1544
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,600
I mean, like I said, I was like, I don't know if you want to do it, but I mean, you know,

1545
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,800
I had an in, so I thought why not?

1546
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,360
Well, I appreciate you letting me, uh, talk out some things.

1547
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,240
We're going to talk to you again at some point to get an update and everything else like

1548
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,240
that.

1549
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,440
Thank you, Patrick McCarthy for being here on the podcast.

1550
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:21,440
Everybody.

1551
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:22,440
Thanks for listening, Patrick.

1552
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:27,120
I'll see you soon, buddy.

1553
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,720
And how was that everybody?

1554
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,140
Did you enjoy my conversation with Patrick McCarthy?

1555
01:22:32,140 --> 01:22:36,320
Thank you so much again to him for coming on the, on the podcast here.

1556
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,700
Absolutely fantastic of him.

1557
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:41,040
He had told me that his schedule was light for last week.

1558
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,600
So you know, I said, Hey, let's get you on now before you get busy.

1559
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,960
Cause that's what he was saying he's about to do.

1560
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,400
Making more awesome episodes of Family Guy.

1561
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,720
Cannot wait to have him back on the podcast here.

1562
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,540
At some point we'll do a little more hanging out, a little less interview, right?

1563
01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:57,540
That's what I'm saying.

1564
01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:59,320
So let's get to our charities.

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No Kid Hungry.

1566
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Many school-aged children are in situations where the best meal of the day for them comes

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No Kid Hungry helps children in need with meals when they are away from school, such

1569
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,460
as weekends and holidays.

1570
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No Kid Hungry.

1571
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Wounded Warrior Project, the brave men and women who have served our country deserve

1572
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,320
the best care we can give them after they return home.

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Some of them have wounds that are external and or internal that they might need help

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Okay.

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Wounded Warrior Project.

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Their goal is to have the entire country no-kill shelters by the year 2025.

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Check out these charities if you can and any others that may be in your local areas.

1581
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Right to the podcast, John D Podcom at gmail.com.

1586
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Executive producers for John D Podcast are Tom Hancock and Liz Miller.

1589
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Thanks to them each for helping them make this happen their own ways.

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01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:16,640
This episode was recorded and produced by yours truly John D Miller in the Amber Tree

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Honestly and sincerely thank you again to Patrick McCarthy for being on the podcast.

1595
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:34,680
Be sure to check out his YouTube channel, Patrick McCarthy Animations.

1596
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,080
McCarthy has two C's.

1597
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If you can't figure that out, just whatever.

1598
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,120
You shouldn't be using YouTube.

1599
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:41,720
No, that was awesome.

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Very fun time.

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01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:51,040
Thank you for listening to episode number 68 numero 68 in the old Espanol language of

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01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,600
John D Podcast.

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,800
I've been your host, John D Miller.

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01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:55,800
All right.

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01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,640
I know times are getting a little crazy.

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:58,880
Let's chill out a little bit.

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All right.

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Take care of yourselves.

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Take care of each other and until next time later view.