Hey everybody, welcome to Jon D. podcast. I'm your host, Jon D. Miller. Welcome to episode number 61. Everybody number 61.
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Going on one thousand ninety days now, as I am recording this intro, days of no booze, no booze, yeah, no booze. Yeah. How are you? How are you? How are you?
That's right. I say intro because I have a very interesting episode for you this evening day, night wherever you are.
Walking the dog, waiting for the test results from the doctor. I don't know, but it's a really cool thing. I was joined in the studio the other day by none other than one of my new comedy friends, a local guy that I've seen around here in the RVA comedy scene,
comedian Patrick Logan was here the other day and it was a really good talk, a very good conversation. It actually got a little more in depth than I thought I would. You know, I'd never sat and talked with Patrick before.
Not like this, you know, we've had conversations here and there outside of, you know, shows that we've done stuff like that and some talking back and forth through a phone text and you know, whatever.
But not not like this and it was cool. And I learned a lot about the guy, learned about how he uses his life experiences and not just comedy, but how he lives his life nowadays.
You know, and also, you know, kind of what he plans to do with himself. It was a good talk. It was very cool.
And he got to come over. He got to meet the wife and the kid and it was fun. It was very nice. I do warn you that my chair was a little creaky.
And when I was recording this, I'm using two mics in this room. We've taken some of the stuff out of the room. So it was a little more airing as to it.
It was really good. It was good. It was, you know, just a couple of guys. It was nice to sit and talk about comedy like that. We kind of tried to go in some other stuff, but, you know, it just kind of kept coming back to that one main theme.
And it was awesome. It's always nice to hang out and talk shop with somebody who knows what it's like to try to go up on a stage and and then make people laugh to we vote that one emotion at a people.
And we talked about how you do it and where you go for it and a lot of them between.
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It starts off. We're kind of just talking and that's what it ends up being pretty much the whole time.
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Hang out and enjoy episode 61 of Jon D. Podcast with comedian Patrick Logan.
I'm more worried about getting canceled than my mom getting mad at me or my job firing me.
Well, that is on recording.
Yeah, I just started recording.
I just started recording about whatever. So literally it cuts in.
What you going, I am more worried about getting canceled.
Yeah.
Then you don't say something that you know,
little say any bad words. We're good. There's only two words that I think are bad.
So I don't think there.
What words do you think are bad, Patrick?
Then I can't, then I'm not allowed to say we all know them.
You know, you tell what words do you think they are?
Oh, I'm not.
No, I'm not going to say them.
But yeah, I mean, there are definitely words that
I can't believe people say in general, in general.
For instance, we were talking, you know, like the N word.
Right?
I don't know, like, what the, I know what the societal background,
I'm so like, the hesitant and the history and everything.
I know all about that.
But I just don't, like, every time I hear it, I don't.
Anytime I hear somebody that's not a black person say the word,
I literally, I just, I just, I just, I just, something in my brain that goes,
I can't believe that somebody just said that.
Like, I don't know where they get it in their mind
that they think that they're allowed to say it.
And it could be just the way that I grew up.
I mean, I grew up in the city.
I went to rich and public schools when I was a kid.
So, yeah, I just, I don't, I've never understood that.
But I'll the other words.
Well, like, there's like the C word, right?
But C, if you go to England, it's not, it's like calling,
it's like calling a woman a bitch.
It's like a term of indierment.
And it can be.
I said, well, British guy, he would say it all a time.
Yeah.
And he worked for like the British, I wasn't the British Secret Service.
She's, no, he wasn't that good.
But yeah, he was unlike the British embassy.
Okay.
Or something like that.
Yeah.
Well, he's a friend of a friend.
But yeah, he was a wild dude.
So anyways, welcome to the podcast, Patrick.
Hey, how long are you man?
Great way to get it started. Oh my gosh.
I'm great.
You know, happy to be here.
Let me say no, what we're in for today.
You don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, you're, you seem like a cool dude.
You said you want to come on.
I can keep telling people on here.
I'm going to have guests on the podcast.
And one of the first comics I met when I got back in the doing comedy was Patrick.
And he said, hey, man, I'm free on Saturday.
And what's what's today?
The 10th February 10th.
And he said, I'm free on Saturday.
I'm going to come over.
I said, cool.
Come hang out.
My little, my little stufus.
And we're going to hang out.
But Patrick, tell everybody where you're from.
Originally from Smithfield, Virginia, a small town.
Then I moved to Prince George, Virginia, on smaller town.
And now live in Hopewell, on an apartment.
In an apartment.
Well, you are a single lad.
Most a lot of single people live in apartments.
Yeah.
A lot of families live in apartments.
It's not going to be wrong.
But you want the first comics I said that I met when I first got in back in
and doing comedy.
And one of the things I like about you is you definitely have,
you had something about you that I, I, I, I, a lot of the comics I see.
I mean, I always sit here on the podcast and I talk about how stand up as a live
and well in the Richmond area.
And it is.
And you're one of the guys that, and one of the comics that I look at when I,
when I watch anywhere I'm going.
And I'm like, okay, this kid, you, like you, you got a little something to you, man.
You really do. What was funny to you growing up?
Well, appreciate that.
I was watching Comic View as a kid.
As far back as I can remember, just comic view on BT.
I don't even know if I understood what they were talking about, but I love seeing people
talking, make people laugh.
And, well, that's what I grew up on.
And then as I got into teenage years, Shepel show, of course.
What else did I watch?
I mostly comic view, Shepel show, always, always been a goofball.
And a surprise that didn't start sooner, really.
Yeah, what was, let me answer this.
What was growing up for you?
Did you find the comedy was a part of, in a skateboard was it something that, you know,
is it that added benefit on the life? Like, you know what I mean?
Man, I've always been the guy that is making the rude, not rude, but inappropriate remarks.
It always felt good like being the person that's like saying something that shouldn't be said
in this place, the dinner table, church groups and stuff.
Like, always making people laugh.
And then, I do remember one part of my life, I was very depressed.
And I would just listen to stand up on Pandora for like, switches a comic every five minutes.
Yeah, just like, yeah, so when I'm sad, just listen to other people.
And sometimes you hear people talk about their problems and make it funny.
And it's like, I mean, you can just laugh if nothing else.
Yeah, this is true.
So kind of an escape, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did too. Like, who was your, who was the first comic?
Like, I know I saw the interview with you in RVM magazine.
And you were talking about Cat Williams.
Right.
Is that correct? That the interviewer they did?
Yep. Cat Williams.
I forgot how they brought it up.
But yeah, Cat Williams was one of my favorites.
Really when I first started, like, on as jet, when I first started watching comedy,
comedy, if you remember, on as jet, I was Bruce, just the host, like,
would always draw me in and then, well, those were the people I saw every show.
Sure.
So every show would see Bruce Bruce or Arnes J.
And so that's who I got familiar with fast.
And then it's pretty cool Tony Woods.
I remember him as a kid and that's one of the first comics I actually met.
But a big fan of like Chris Rock, of course,
a Porsche pel, yeah, man. What a love it all, man. Love all different types of comedy.
Right.
Which by the way, any question that I ask you, I always tell people that I interview on the podcast.
There's not a question that I ask you that you can't turn on and reverse back on me.
Yeah.
And I've had, I've had people do it in the patty.
Well, what would you say?
Right.
Who was yours?
Biggest influence or, okay, I didn't think you were going to start writing.
You know, for me, it's a funny sort of story.
You know, when I got into stand-up,
it was like a rainy afternoon.
My mom had these old Bill Cosby records.
And she sat me down one day in my room with a record player.
And I think it was Bill Cosby's wise their air.
And I listened to it and I just fell in love with,
I mean, the jokes were funny, obviously.
But the laughter and stuff like that.
That was the first comic guy I was listening to.
But as I got older, it was like Robin Williams and how he meant Dale and
Carl in and prior.
Guys like that.
And my nice, I saw him bed.
Listen to my walk in it night.
And what wouldn't music, it would be like Robin Williams live at the met.
Like stuff like that.
But yeah, Cosby.
And I tell people that and they look at me weird.
And I'm like, it was before all the bad shit.
I mean, the bad shit was happening.
Right.
We just didn't know it was good time.
So yeah, so that was that was where that was mine.
So, but I mean, everybody's got to have one.
And you know, it wasn't even really, wasn't really my deal.
Right.
Part of your life.
Well, it's not even that's like, but I get, I guess,
Cosby was a part of your life.
But everybody was part of it.
When I was a fucking, when I was a kid, dude, I fucking loved Cosby.
Like he was like a second dad to me.
And you know, I'm very close to my dad.
He's my dad's a great guy.
Nothing, nothing against him.
But you know, I literally, like I'd watch Cosby show every Thursday.
Like, you know what I mean? And I love Cos.
Like he was, you know, I, one of my dreams.
I want to meet Cos.
And then so like when all that stuff came out, dude,
Holy shit.
But then I've experienced that with like musicians and sucks.
Who, who?
Based nectar.
I love, love, base nectar.
You probably might not have heard of him.
No, but then go ahead.
Yeah, just a base, base music.
Legendary shows community.
And yeah, he went through some stuff like that.
And it sucks.
It's like your favorite thing ever.
And then it's like, ah, but you know,
it does, like, you know, I, I won't even say the guy's name.
But there was one time I got to work the DC improv.
When I went out of there, I worked the DC improv.
What the guy was a headliner.
He was definitely up there.
As far as my respect level went, the guy I worked a week with him.
He was an asshole to the feature.
The middle act for doing any crowdwork whatsoever.
And basically the guy was his deal with the heckler.
And the, anyways, and then after the show he's been a total creep.
And it was like, ah, like it just ruined it.
It just ruined it.
So I mean, I've definitely seen that.
And it was just, it's one of those things where you,
you know, you don't want to say, you don't want to say there in question.
Is anything real anymore, but at the same time.
I don't know.
And almost puts like a little reality check on your soul of who can I look up to?
Right.
That's not going to be a complete, a complete douchebag.
I was right.
But you're right.
So you've been doing comedy for less than two years, right?
It's a right.
Right.
Be made first.
It'll be two years.
Yeah.
Do you like it so far?
I love it.
I'm happier than I've ever been in my life.
Yeah.
Like you feel good about what you're doing.
Right.
Yeah.
I feel like it's when I was meant to do.
And sometimes I think I got into late, but I think I'm finally to the level of maturity
that I can do this and give it my all, you know, and I always wasn't.
And I'm still not extremely mature, but very much sure is in like,
no, what not to say, how not to treat people, you know, and can really put my thoughts together
and have fun, man.
I spent a long time rapping.
Yeah.
I did, you know, I saw that.
Not just, I guess it was in the, not just to your bio on social, but it was something else
I saw.
Maybe I saw you doing a joke about it.
Yeah, or something?
Yeah.
We got a joke about it.
Yeah.
What was your rapping like?
You got it.
Oh, really, man.
I'm probably the best rapper I've ever met.
Yeah, man.
I've got it.
I'm talented, man.
Like just like the New York style.
Yeah, boom, back.
Yeah.
Well, rap, you don't have to be a song, but like comedy, I feel like I should be humble, like, you know,
like, but rap, not being humble is part of it.
And, but yeah, man, like New York style, boom, back.
No, all right.
Hold on, way, way, way, way.
New York style, boom, back.
Yeah.
I mean, that sounds like a doctor.
Have you ever heard it?
I'd be avert listen to rap.
Yeah.
Listen.
I'm not what I would.
I was listening to rap long before.
I mean, all right, let me say this.
How would you compare it?
Well, 60, at least, 60 to my mom, 62.
Okay.
So I'm 50, right?
So, I mean, I was listening to like the first rap.
The first rap.
The very first one.
It's came out.
No, I had it.
It was like, right.
Y'all listen up.
Yeah, it's Ekeel.
I feel like, I don't know why I feel like that's a, that's a good rap.
That's a first rapper.
It's a great, an awesome, a musiqueel, you know.
Yeah.
No, I was listening to rap.
Okay.
So, I didn't know what the, uh, Nause type, uh,
Nause type, uh, fabulous, jane kiss.
Here are my biggest, and some of my biggest influences.
Um, but I was like using, uh, leader, adderall or, you know, whatever.
And I, I'll use it as a crutch.
And like, I got to a point.
I had some health issues.
And I was like, man, what do I, what do I want to do?
What makes me happy sober?
How can I be creative sober?
And I used to make like, little stupid Facebook videos,
or just like my first set ever doing comedy was just some jokes
that I had written on Facebook.
Like one of the first things I wrote on Facebook is still one of my best jokes.
It's, uh, you ever got a blow job from a girl with a buzz cut.
You don't know whether it's a bust and nut or give her a nilgi.
And that was my, that was a Facebook joke.
He got like maybe 60 likes or laughs at the time.
Yeah.
And, uh, was part of my first set and it still does great.
And, uh, I was like, I always wanted to be funny.
And, uh, and this, and this is something that I actually do sober as far as, like,
writing or, um, performing to, I mean, I have a couple beers,
but, um, it's like I'm having fun sober.
And at one point in life, I never thought that could happen.
Like I always needed weed, um, at a raw, like, take out a raw.
It's my best day ever.
I wanted to do everything.
Right.
And, um, and I would like look back at pictures and videos of me on Adderall.
It's like my eyes are bugged out.
I was telling dates that I'd be wrapping and I'm like,
given the wrong dates. And I'm like, okay,
you think you're doing great on Adderall,
but you're really kind of, you're not thinking clear really.
Right.
Like you've got a lot of energy and doing stuff.
So I was like, what can I do sober that I enjoy?
And now I'm just like, still got the same energy that I had when I,
like, took Adderall, like, like, I'm making this clip or I'm writing a joke,
or I'm making a flyer.
It's like, I am excited about it and staying up late.
Doing it.
And I'm not on drugs.
So that's what I love most about comedy.
It's just like pure happiness that's, uh,
it can make you sad too, but, you know,
but as far as just doing it,
I'm happy.
Happy.
That's awesome, man.
It's good because you, you've experienced the true lows in the highs.
Right.
You know, and some people say what comedy, like, you know,
a lot of, a lot of people say what comedy.
Like you don't know pain until you've done, until you've done stand up.
Yeah.
It can be, can be pretty painful sometimes.
Which, which makes me think, okay.
So where, now I've seen your act and I encourage anybody who might have a chance to go see Patrick to go see it.
Where do you usually draw your material from?
So just like, when stuff comes to me,
so like before I was actually doing stand up,
I'd get in little modes.
I spent a lot of time at home, like just doing dishes, laundry,
cleaning up, keeping tidy and like when I get in my zone,
just doing whatever sometimes to also come to me or conversation with a friend.
But I used to before I did stand up when a real funny thought came to me.
I would like go to Facebook and like let me,
type Patrick Logan on Facebook, follow me.
I might say something funny.
I'd go to Facebook and I'd just like write my original thought
and then I'd look at it for 10, 15 minutes to get it as best as it could be.
It's just random thoughts like I really don't make time to sit down and write.
But a lot of things dating, talking to friends,
sometimes when I'm just not having a good time,
it's like I have to force myself to feel better.
You know, and when I do that,
something like when you go through shit and it sucks and you're not having fun,
you're depressed or whatever.
Eventually I have to bring myself out of that.
Like I can have anxiety, paranoia.
Eventually I get tired of being sad and I'm like let me bring myself out of this.
And then sometimes like a funny thought will come.
Sometimes one of my most recent jokes,
it just I was going to sleep and I saw something about the birds in the bees.
And I got a thought, oh, I don't want to get my joke away,
but like it's not just birds and bees anymore.
You know?
So it's like, and then the next day I forgot it and somebody sent me something about birds.
And bees, I was like, oh, there's that joke when we write it down.
Because I knew I went to sleep with like a good joke on my mind.
You got that one back because I don't know how many times I'm laying there.
And you're like, oh, I thought you think it's something funny and then you don't write it down.
The next day, what the hell was it?
You have to write it down.
I was so happy when Brian Brian Williams sent me a meme about birds and bees.
I was like, there it is.
Because like earlier that day I was like, what?
I knew it was so funny when I was thinking last night.
And then I couldn't think of it and then he sent me something.
I was like, there it is.
So I was like, man, like, just came in in the clutch.
It's like just random.
Oh, oh, be he'll keep up with the inadvertent assist there.
Yeah, thanks be will.
Yeah, yeah, good guy, man.
So so you're feeling, so what are you most proud of that you've done so far in coming?
Like, what if you've done so far that obviously it's not the end of the journey,
but it's maybe it's a it's a it's a peak that you've reached with still more pigs to come.
Right.
Yeah, man. So when I first started, I was just so I couldn't believe I was doing it.
Because it been something that I wanted to do for so long.
I had on a list like future things like get my tattoos covered up.
You know, my shitty tattoos like on the long term list, you know,
start a podcast, do stand up comedy.
And one day I just moved into my own apartment and I was like, let me go to open.
Like, so when I first started, I couldn't believe and I started having good sets.
I couldn't believe I was doing it. I was just like, man, this is like, I'm actually doing something that I've admired for 30 years
that I've just loved forever.
And so that was and then started getting good and then go try to do competitions.
Came in second on a competition one time and then you're like, okay, well, oh, I'm good.
You think you're the best, but no, I got to get better.
You know, I got to get better and then you accomplish something,
but the thing is you always have to keep, you need new stuff, you need better stuff,
you need a tighter, you need clean stuff, you need like, there's always a challenge up next.
And, but the thing I'm most proud of so far is the roast battle and a Virginia Beach Funnybone
because I just didn't think I would even make it past the first round.
And I never, people have like talked about roast and I'm like, I'll never do a roast.
Like, I'm usually getting roasted.
And that was like multiple rounds going against multiple people.
People that I look up to and to win that was, it was a big rush and an awesome feeling.
So here's one of the things that I noticed about you when I saw on Facebook when you had won the the roast
battle at Downer Virginia Beach.
It did not surprise me.
Thank you, man.
Because here's what I tell you.
One of the things that I think about it is because I can tell you grew up in a neighborhood
or in a situation where you had to maybe defend yourself a little bit from time to time.
Absolutely.
And I could, I can see it in your act and then so when you went down there and then you had to,
I saw the picture you were about.
I was like, fuck yeah.
Man.
Pell you.
I'm telling you, I mean, bullion can be good in some cases.
And I like to pay them.
I was that guy always getting roasted.
Like I grew up around some funny people man and I was never, I was never the good.
I was the guy making everybody else funny because of how bad they're roasting me.
And I also had some asshole friends that I had to learn eventually to just not let it get to me.
Every time you catch yourself being mad, realize, oh, this is an opportunity to not be mad.
And what thoughts going to go through your head when you're not mad?
Because when you react on emotion, they're getting you.
So if you just stop the emotion part first, like as soon as you start feeling, even it can be with anything.
Are you with people, are you with women?
You don't argue you feel that feeling.
You're like, oh, I noticed myself getting mad or upset.
Let me stop that and then other thoughts will come.
And then that's when you get them with a comeback or that's when you, you know,
So I had to learn to like not be in my feelings.
And some of those guys, man, like one of my friends who was the roast king Russell Lawyer.
I believe that's how I spell my dear friends name or say my dear friends name.
He was the roast king and he was like, he's like, damn, he's like, he's like, you're funny now because we used the roast Joe ass out of time.
Redoam's name is like, yeah, it's a, it's a, it really did.
I guess it has had a good effect on me.
I grew up, you grew up in a multicultural sort of a setting.
Yeah, man, I was the only white kid on my bus route.
I made one, one of a couple, one of a few white kids on my bus route.
And then when I did, I lived there for 13 to 14 years.
So when I moved, I just gravitated to black friends or not the average white kids.
That's, that's who I grew up around the two.
Yeah, it's just always be a part of me.
Yeah, right.
I mean, I think anybody who grows up in a society,
where you have more than just your own kind of people,
I think any, any child that starts off in that situation is already ahead in the game, in my opinion.
Yeah, because you're getting, you're not just stuck in one view point or one perspective.
You like, you see what, what life is for other people, you know,
you see where they're backgrounds or what they're, especially like,
dowally celebration, I've been to one of those.
I think that was awesome.
Yeah, I'm not not too actually familiar with what's that,
honestly.
Right.
The dowally, it's like, I don't know if it's the New Year's kind of,
but I don't want to talk to you about it, but I don't want to say what it is and it's not even closed to you.
But yeah, yeah, but I was there.
It was, it was a good time.
So, all right, so you're, you're proud of that, you got the, the good base going on.
What, what do you not, I'm trying to say, I could word this.
I was thinking about this last night, I was like, I'm going to ask him some questions,
but is there, I guess I just say like this, is there anything about your comedy and your act and how you're doing it so far that you don't like?
I don't like how most of the content I put out is like dirty or naughty.
So people automatically assume, oh, you're just a dirty comic,
talking about sex and this and that.
Because there is more to my act, but I, I, I do, I'm like working on some clean stuff.
I can, I want to be funny in any situation, but most of my early comedy was all dirty stuff.
But I've always had a perverted sense of humor.
So I'll, I'll always be that, but to challenge myself like,
I don't know, it could be good to be looked at like a lot of people like dirty, naughty humor.
And, but I don't want to be just that, you know.
Let's go, but look at it.
I remember, what was his name?
He had been on the tonight show and he, but he was from the DC area, Roger Merrick,
and he was always telling me, and this, I like, I built King, they would say,
you got to, you got to be able to work clean.
Yeah.
Because they don't open up so many different rooms.
That's a good goal though.
That's a good.
I, you know, I've been trying to, I've been trying to do stuff that is more sort of more like the,
and you window, then, then the straight up.
Right.
In a word.
Yeah.
So like, you know, that's kind of, so I'm working on, I'm working on trying to get like 10 minutes of clean material.
I mean, when I say clean, I mean, like, not saying the F.
Not, not cousin are not saying the word dick or pussy, but still having like a sexual joke.
I consider, I would say that's clean enough to like send to someone who wants clean material.
So I mean, I've had to had somebody say, hey man, send me a 10 minute set clean.
And we'll get you some work, you know, so I'm like, open to do that.
I'm hoping that maybe do that at any roofs.
Uh, February 24th.
Uh, wine bar and grill, well, not say I didn't fuck it up.
Any roofs, wine bar and bistro hopefully it's a'll be out before then.
It's real.
Yeah.
Doing two shows there.
Um, but like when I get booked, I want to show like that. I want to give it my best.
And sometimes, but I also want to get 10 clean in front of a good crowd.
You know, so it's like, if this is a good crowd, you want to do my best stuff.
But also, I mean, the clean stuff I have is pretty good.
So I'm going to try to get, I had planned to do it like last weekend or two ago at a festival.
But then it's a room of like 400 people and they're all loud.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I've definitely got to use my, my good jokes.
Got your best big voice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, I want to do that soon.
I get you.
I did see their show at any roofs.
I'd nick these put on a heck of a show the first one I saw.
Uh, you could definitely probably get away with doing some, some blue materials I call it.
All right. So I forget blue is blue is blue is not clean blue is not clean.
Okay.
So it's a blue is blue was more of a nice term that they used to give comics where, you know, dirty dirty comic.
I mean, they might, you know, I just so fun, man.
It is fun.
But it is, it is absolutely fun.
And I've been on both sides of it, but there is that equation of, you know,
it can you do 10 minutes of because, you know, if you go see sign-feld or, you know,
even like that, I mean, they, they don't do that. I mean, I guess sign-feld over the years has gotten a little more.
Little more, I don't risk a, and some of the stuff he says, but he never drops a nap bomb.
He never, you know, on stage.
Now, if you watch like the movie comedian, have you ever seen movie?
I haven't.
I should have what you should.
You should hold or new or it came back in 2001 comedian.
Sign-feld.
Yeah, I actually have a DVD of it over there.
I just found, I saw the other day after the show was over.
And it's about him getting back into stand-up.
And the sort of journey he has to take, which of course is much easier than anybody who's just starting out,
because he's already sign-feld.
So he walks into, you know, Caroline's in New York and says, or standing in New York or the seller and says,
Hey, I want to do a said, they put him on any show he wants to go on, as opposed to,
you were me go and they're like, yeah, go get in the fucking line.
Because that's where you are.
So, it follows that.
And also, for follows, uh, Orny Adams, who, uh, it was young at the time and coming up.
And he looks like, he looks like an asshole in the movie.
And he, it's that, but he's a really nice guy, a man of a person.
He's really cool doing very funny.
I would recommend any young comic watch that movie because it's just,
and actually, uh, Orny in that, in the movie in Colin comedian, he says,
I never really felt paying till I did comedy.
And I've always, I've always felt that.
And like you were talking about trying to make yourself happy and kind of getting back to it,
uh, is, you know, there's times.
I mean, even last Friday when I went to the barrel roll comedy show,
I went and part of the one that raises why did it was for me comedy is,
I don't think about other things.
Do you find that it does that for you or do you, do you find it's more like an escape?
I know you were kind of talking about that earlier, but do you really find, like, you take solace into and jokes?
The past two years have been pretty blessed as far as, like,
life has been good, you know, so it's like, uh,
it's easy to have fun when life is good, you know?
Um, I guess when I first started, I was like getting over some, like, depression or getting over, like, a rough patch.
Since I started, it's been really good.
I've been, I've been really lucky right now.
The past two years have been great for me.
Just overall, um, everything work, personal life, you know, pretty, pretty good.
But then, like, you know, last week I was a little stressed because, like, you know,
I got some car issues, but it's okay. Everything's fine.
You know, it's like, uh, but this, like, you still got to go out,
just still got to go out and do it.
I guess, I mean, I always kind of have turned my pain in the humor anyway.
So I, like, once I, if I go through something or I'm feeling weird about something,
um, once I make a joke about it, it's like, oh, okay.
You know, and I think, well, also, I, Apple Brown Betty told me that too.
She was like, I, or maybe she posted on Facebook,
but I can really relate to it, like once I'm feeling, not feeling good about something
and then I can make it into a joke. It's like, oh, there it goes.
It's done now. It's done not bother me anymore.
Right. You know, yeah, she's strong, man.
Julia, isn't she?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could say you're saying that's all that.
Yeah, that's a good way to think about it.
I mean, I think that's, yeah, that's the way one of those things you have to address
as a comic because you will do it.
If you do it long enough, you will have some, you know, a terrible break up
or something and you are going to be so fucking down about it.
Yeah.
And then you're going to get a call.
You're going to call me or something.
Yeah.
I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, but, you know, what?
You go up there and you do it and yeah, if you can make a joke about it,
I think there was one time I made a joke about this break up I was having.
This woman came up to me at me.
She wasn't hitting on me or anything like that.
It wasn't like that, but she came up to me.
She said, come, sorry about your breakup.
And I go, okay, I kind of kind of caught me off guard and I said, okay, thanks.
And she goes, I just wanted you know, I could really feel your pain in that joke.
And I swear to God, I almost cried.
Yeah, I was always like, all right, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But at the same time, I don't know.
Part of it was kind of like, shut the fuck up, lady.
You know what I was joking about it.
I don't want to talk about it.
It's a comedy club, man.
It's a comedy club.
Everyone was moving.
So
see yourself. I do use the terrible. What do you see yourself in 10 years, Patrick?
Yeah, man. I love that question. I mean, I want to do this forever, man. Like, I don't,
I don't see myself ever not wanting to do this. I've always tried to be the funny guy,
always been the guy in class or always just always been funny, you know? And now that I'm doing it,
I don't really, I don't know if I ever want something more than comedy. That'll be amazing because
I just want to do it forever. Like, rap. I still love rap and I'm very good at it. But I'm just
not like I want to wake up and rap today. It's like comedy. It's like, I want to be there the next
time I can. If I'm not there, I'm either exhausted or have something to do, you know? And we're like,
so I'd like to go as far as I can go with it. And I do think like not to be in a humble way. I think
I do have the ability. I feel like I can connect with a lot of different people. Black crowds,
white crowds, gay crowds, straight crowds. Like, I think that will take me far. Absolutely. It will.
Yeah, I mean, and I've noticed that you're doing, there's something. So, you know, you're doing
some of the shows that are more technically what they call an urban audience or a deaf jam audience.
And you're actually done very well. You got, you're in the finals. What is it, the show time at the
park? Show time at the park. Yeah, a Apollo style show. Yeah. That's awesome, dude. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's, but I mean, are you going to hear me ask you this? Because you know
eventually. And now I'd say this, I don't even know why I'm going down this road. But I guess I am,
you know, eventually you're going to have to go someplace like a New York or a Los Angeles. So you
have that long term? Like, are you saying or do I plan on that? Yeah, because you would, well,
you would also talk about Austin. And you made a trip to Austin. Yeah, yeah, man. I'd love to go to
New York, man. I did go to Austin. That's really the only outside comedy scene that I've been to. I don't
know what my thoughts are on moving yet. Like right now, I kind of, I'm just saying it's not as easy
to make it. But yeah, I'd like to go visit. I'd love to, like, I've never been to New York. I know
that's a hot spot. One of the hottest, if not, you know, Austin, LA, New York. You know, that's,
I'd love to go there. I haven't really, I do have a full-time job. And I do have like
vacation and stuff, but I haven't really thought about where I'm going next or when. But I would
like to, I'd like to spend a week there, you know, and just just hanging out. Yeah. It is hard to get
on if you're not from there. But you can, you know, I tell you go to the tick-o-c. It comics will ask me,
oh, you know, don't you have to go to New York or LA, and I say pretty much, yeah. Yeah. I mean,
it's not like it used to be quite, but, you know, and I'm not going to say your name drop, but I am,
you know, I had, I had Mike Berbiglia who I've known since he started. I'm not saying I know them
now really, but I used to know back in the day and whatever I've seen around, but him and then
Leno, both told me themselves, if you want to, you want to do something comedy, you have to go to
New York LA because you have to get up every single night and do it, you know, it's one of,
like you're going to, I mean, you can always work the road. You know, I was worth the road. That's, that's
what I did. And so, you know, if you're going to get to that point though. Yeah, man. So, like, so far,
things have kind of like come to me, like, you know, can you host people see I'm doing comedy,
can you host a show or competitions or anything and everything I can get, and then people ask
me to do stuff and I go out of town and meet somebody else and they're like, so right now,
I'm taking anything and everything. There are a few people that I want to like send something to,
like, like, I've seen Abaround Betty do the feature at the Apollo and I guess I know a few people
that know Bob Sumner. So I'm like, you should go with this, you should come and see a show,
he'll maybe put you on or something to own a show just to see what you got, you know. And that's
like something that came to me that I really didn't go looking for that I plan on doing. You know,
like, let's go to, I don't even want to stay with States and that it's a different play, a
willing bro. I don't know exactly where that is, but that's a show people say I should go to.
So like little stuff like that that comes to me instead of just like, I'm going to pick up and
move and go do this. Like Austin was great, but like I don't necessarily want to, I could see
myself living there, but it's nice to be close to family right now. I'm really like what Nick
Deez is doing. He's like, he's getting a lot of work. He like quit his job. You know, last time
I remember he quit his job and he's still living right in whatever. Jeannie Beach or somewhere in that
area, which is very inspiring. Maybe not everybody can do that, but it is cool to see someone
around here making a living on comedy with the, and he's like, could be going other places and stuff.
So moving maybe one day I guess it would be cool. I would like to, but it's also cool to
think like what can I get? I'll just do everything I can around here and see where it goes. See
what opportunity comes. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I mean I'm not saying you got to make it
this season. Like I would never go like for you, I wouldn't say like, yeah, I'm moving to New York right now.
Right. Right. Right. That would be, you know, it's a little premature, but you know, it's one of
those things. It's one of the things that I think about and I thought it was, yeah, absolutely.
It's like herbola there. When I was in Austin, like everybody's like, if you want this, you have to
move here. You know, if you really want this, this is where it's at. And I mean, yeah, I could see it.
And then also I'm down there. I'm thinking, man, there's no black, there's not like black rooms
down here. Like I don't, like, that's mostly why people like, but then Houston. So it's like,
I guess there, you could do whatever the same thing you do here. You could do there. Find where your
stuff is. But the thawna moving somewhere, I would, it's a terrifying. I would, well, I would
like to, well, when you're in a small place, it's easy to kind of, you know, be the big fish and
little pond, not saying I'm that yet, but it's easy to, it's easy to do that. And eventually,
you do have to go to a bigger pond, you know, and it's, well, yeah, because, and that's the thing,
all right. So I'll tell you this story. And I guess I'm using the podcast to tell you,
to be a, you know, a, give you advice or anything. But like, Leno said, he was like, what are you
going to do? You're going to be the biggest fish and DC? And so I tell people, eventually you're
going to have to, or you need to get more throw, which, which you will be doing. But then at the same
time, like, you know, Nick D's just had Lyon, the funny bone enrichment. He had Lyon, the Sandman
comedy club, when it was here. He had Lyon, Cosys, and he's like, man, my next is like, Virginia Beach.
You know, if I'm not doing that here, then why should I even think about moving? You know, if I can't,
if I can't conquer this, like, really, you know, I mean, it, I want my plan is I want to get,
so the longest set I've done is 20 minutes. I know I've got like 30 worth of material. I haven't
put it together yet, like, in order and stuff. But I want to get like a tight 30, at least before
I think about anywhere. We're maybe even an hour. Yeah, probably tight hour, and they say,
you know, you should have a little heat to you. All right. Well, you just told me to shut the
fuck up then. I can, I cannot be real quick. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm so hot. Yeah. Well, I said,
why, yeah. He said, all right. So Patrick's going to go take a whiz. We're going to take a break,
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After your, your, our, our potty break. Yes. Took a potty break. Took a little,
little whiz. Yeah. So we were talking about comedy before comedy. And so one of the
guys that I was going to ask you, we'll just finish up that part of it. Do you have anybody?
So like back in the day, you know, I wanted to work with like what I was first start out to a comedy,
like a Pablo Francisco. I loved Pablo, loved the voices of everything else. And he was one of the
people that I wanted to work with the most. I go see him at the improv. I go see him, you know, wherever
when he was in town. I finally got to work with him at one point. Do you have somebody right now
that you, what, do you want to work with one day? Hmm. I know the sounds cliche, man.
I, I, I, I love the whole, the whole comedy mothership thing going on, where it's just like everybody
all in one spot, man. I, I'd love to be a part of that one day and just like, I guess it's a goal
and a, yeah, but if I could think of one person, man, I couldn't even tell you. I mean, there's no,
there's no wrong answer. Like it's just somebody that you would love to do like a, a week with,
like, like, like, I got something like Pablo or, you know, back at like Lewis Black. I got to work with
Lewis Black before Lewis is so awesome. Yeah. I got to work with him, you know, it's like that. Like,
is there's somebody that you think of right now? Like, you really watch, you're like,
fuck yes, I want to work with that dude when they're. Yeah. Well, I know, I might be too late for this.
Oh, Joey Diaz is one of my favorites, man. But he's not even like torn or anything right now.
I think he's trying to do a residency. I mean, I love what Shane Gillis is doing, Mark Norman.
I'm trying to think of like, but I mean, those are like big shots, you know,
somebody that's moving around. Joey Diaz, what about what about Joey Diaz? That's a character,
right there, man. That's a dude that, I mean, he's got some, I mean, what about him? He's a, well,
motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. He is. Yeah. He's not that voice. He's a, well, okay. So this is real cool.
Before I ever did comedy, I would always listen to Rogan's podcast, Diaz, Joey Diaz is up there.
And like, just love listening about comedy when they used to talk about it, like an LA and like,
I thought it was something at that time that I would have to move out there to do. And so I always
love listening to the stories, learn about it and never even knew what was going on right in Richmond.
You know, never even knew I could do open mics or showcases. But since I've been doing comedy,
I've learned so much from Joey Diaz. Man, his, I mean, I listen to the comedy Bible,
but Joey Diaz just stories in his tips, man. I mean, he's just a, he's just a wealth of knowledge,
man. And he's funny and cool and not like he's wrong, man. And that's what I appreciate and like,
yeah, I could see that. I mean, the guy has definitely been around like the guy has done
and seen some shit, you know, I mean, so any of that's going to translate through. I didn't,
it's interesting. I did see him not long ago. I saw a clip of him. I think he was at the improv
in LA. And I mean, it was just, it was good. Like it was just solid, but it was literally just one,
I don't know, seven minutes story. Yeah. And I'm sitting there watching it go and I can't tell a story
for seven minutes. I mean, I can, but I don't think I've ever been able to do it on a stage,
like type of thing. So yeah, he's, he's a, he's a, he's a interesting choice there.
Yeah, definitely would love to have a conversation with him. And that'd be cool. I mean,
who knows, it may, may never happen, but that'd be that'd be awesome, man. I heard do not,
do not eat his gummies. Oh, yeah. The ones that he eats, right, for sure. Yeah, apparently they are
waste. I mean, what's, Pauli Schoer was talking about it. Other other comics I've seen who've
talked about going on his, his podcast and been like, yeah, I couldn't find my door to get out of the
building. Right. Right. Absolutely not. Yeah. I mean, my stupid, the already, this stuff affects me,
way too much right now, but I'm still doing this. Joe, he is. What are you, you're there?
I feel so safe. I feel safe. Get a fucking Uber or something. Jesus, I feel safe is crap. I mean,
when else are you going to be there? He's like your granddad or father. Yeah, like the dad I never
had. Like I'm safe with Joe. I'll be scared, but I'll be there with Joe. Yeah. Yeah. I love you, Joe.
I love you, too. What are you doing? You fucking crying over there? What are you
vulgar crying about? He does go me. I'm doing about two months to have a wish list. Do I still have
a wish list? I like to work with like headburd back in the day. It was always one that I loved and my
body executive producer on the show, Tom, that's his voiceman when you call him and it's a thing
I'm going thing I do on here because his voiceman sounds like that. But he got to do a night with
headburd and DC one time and I was so fucking jealous. Yeah. And my body took him to kill it. Absolutely
killed it. That's awesome. And he got to hang out with headburd in the green room and yeah, dude. So I was
and I was jealous of that. And when he died, that was that took a big one off my list of people
I could like, yes, I want to. But I did, you know, headburd would he come out and talk to the
comics so it's not like I never interacted with him. But to do a show, something like that because
when you when you do comedy and you get to work with somebody that you really respect and then they
watch you and they give you feedback and they do all that stuff. Man, that's one of the best
guy to feel in the world. Much less somebody that you just love their their stand up and their comedy.
Yeah. It's one of those things where you're like 10 to a. Like I need to get like it's almost like a
driving factor. You know, I want to get to the level where I'm that guy's opener. I want to make
it one day. But you don't just want to do comedy, right? You don't want to do this. I do you have
of course, I know you're being the rapper, right? And I mean the laugh, I'm sorry. I'm not laughing
with anyone. That's what everybody says. No. No. You know, I would like I think it also be like a
perfect time right now to release a rap because a lot of people hear me joke about it, but they've
never actually listened or don't realize that I actually am like, well, I'm gonna have it.
You know, I'm gonna say this. You don't necessarily sort of put forth the the image of being a rapper
but at the same time. I think that's pretty common anyways in this day and age. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. It is fun when people are surprised. But I used, I mean, nowadays people would say I look like
a soundcloud rapper. I've been called that before, which is, which I, it's funny because I am.
I am a soundcloud rapper. So thank you. But it is cool to like really, I mean, you don't
expect a white guy even with all the great white rappers. All the great white rappers we have now.
That's the name for the four of them. You know, white rappers. Yeah. White rappers are now called
white. Yeah. Yeah, man. But even with the four grades we have now, you still, it still surprises
people when somebody white can rap and like not to like discredit anybody or like a love art,
everybody's art, but a lot of white rappers sound like really nerdy and they're really just saying
big words. It is cool to surprise people. So I think that is something, I don't know if I'd ever be like a
a full time rapper, but I definitely see myself rapping again. Right now I have a full time job.
And I'm trying to put my all in the comedy. So they're rapping. Well, yeah. So if I like ever made
a living like got to where I didn't have to work in 95, I definitely, you know, make a album.
And I don't really know. Only thing I also like to do is like skits. I like skits. I like acting
and just taking all characters and stuff. So that'd be cool. But right now it's just like my
nine to five comedy and see my mom when I can. Or like trying to get a date. I also want to be a
dad one day too. That's a, yeah. We were talking, we were talking out there and Patrick was saying,
yeah, yeah, I can't believe you're a dad. Like I forget you're a dad. And I said, yeah, I do
to sometimes. It is different. It does change things. It's like, I just don't know like, man, I'm 34 now.
Which I know I could, you know, I've got some time. You know, I'm 34 now and I'm finally getting
into something that I want to give my all to. So I don't even have time to try to think about
a family right now. So it's like, I don't know. I guess I'll, I'll just go with the flow also.
So I don't plan stuff, but I'm not going to plan like home and I find somebody have a kid
right now. But I do want one one day, but I see myself chasing comedy as much as I can right now.
So I can see you being a dad man. You probably be pretty cool. I mean, you seem like you're
cool and they bad. Like one of the things, you know, trying to draw the line between being
like that funny silly dad, you know, because I am a comedian. My kid knows I'm a comedian. You know,
what are comic, I guess you could say, but, you know, and then sometimes I break bad on them and then
he's like, oh, but you also have to like be cool and discipline. Like you have to discipline
and, uh, and teach and, you know, make sure they don't fuck up, you know, and they wrote a song about
that. Yeah. Teacher children well. Yeah. Well, that's good, man. I think, I think you, you seem like a pretty
well-rounded person. You seem like you got to your, yourself. You got, you got Mojo going.
Which is good. Yeah, man. And you don't, you don't have to follow any of my advice, because what the
fuck am I? I'm sitting, no, I appreciate advice. I appreciate like I just, I'm always, I think that's
part of the reason why I'm so far successful, like not successful, like rich, but successful as
and doing good is big and, you know, doing good and doing more and like things are common for me
because I, I'm open to advice and I, I've always want to learn, like I sometimes you get mad, like
somebody tries to teach you something and people, I know, I got it, you know, I don't need you to
tell me, no, I need you to tell me. You know, I'm saying like, and even if I make my own decision,
you know, it's like I appreciate all advice and, uh, always trying to soak up new information
and, uh, and use it the best I can and, uh, I remember talking to you whenever I met you and I
remember you, you, you, you asked me a question, you were, you were talking about like, you know,
building jokes, you were like, I, I, you know, you got any advice on like building my act, building my act
up and, and that's exactly what you said, I think you were trying to say like build it up quickly,
but the thing was, was you actually listened to me. I don't know how many times do you have gone,
do you know, what do you think about this and I start telling them and then you could see their
face go blank, like, yeah, you know what I mean, you didn't really want to fucking know this,
what do you, yeah, don't patch a nice, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you've got to be able to learn,
I mean, everybody should be open, be open to learn it, you don't know it all, we don't know
money knows it all. No, no, well, that's like, uh, it's like, uh, but it kind of takes us into the
accent, because like, you know, we were talking, uh, off air, I guess you could call, you could say it,
um, when we were doing the break and we were saying, you know, like, what do you feel,
the state of comedy is and the way it is and I just maybe kind of a, in debt heavy question,
but where do you feel like in the relation of comedy is to sort of what modern culture is now?
Do you know what I mean? Like, do you feel, you know, do you feel like it's changed because of it?
And I, and I, and I actually this because you want the people that I've run into,
who is, uh, you know, 30s and younger, who has actually been paying attention to comedy for a long
time. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, man, uh, one of my biggest fears like when I, okay, so
uh, uh, uh, uh, I love Richmond, so happy to be part of the community here.
But I do notice Richmond is a little more progressive than where I grew up at.
Right. So one of my fears was man, well, I'd be able to express myself, well, I'd be able to say
what I want to say, you know, I have been able to and I think there's a place for everybody in comedy,
but I do love how can we take, and that this shouldn't be anybody's goal, like to,
to come out talking about sensitive topics, but if you can make it funny the same way you make,
I make my own problems funny. If I can like make the world's problems funny or, you know,
how, how can we both, we have two different views? How can we both laugh at something, you know,
and like, uh, I took somebody else's advice like, don't worry about talking about
sensitive topics right now. Learn how to be funny, you know, learn how to be funny, and, um, and then,
you know, whatever, it is cool to like, I think right now people want to hear everything. They don't
want to hear, they don't want to govern our own comedy, you know, so like, but the thing is making it
funny and not doing it out of hate, but doing it out of, like, hey, we can laugh together. You can
laugh at me and I can laugh at you, you know, and we can laugh at each other, but like when it comes to
the point of like being mean or like inciting violence and that that is not comedy. That's,
uh, that's not comedy. Right. I think that's very well said. Yeah, I, you know, one of the best
attitudes people can have and we both share this mentality is just don't be shitty and uh,
I think that's one of the biggest things and I, you see in comedy, you see it and everything. I don't know,
for me, I feel like comedy has, you know, I, I don't want to touch religion or politics anymore,
and I feel like if there's something that we can all do, we can all come together and be in a room
laughing about, you know, school buses or whatever, I was thinking about Holly's jokes just now.
I don't know, I Holly Bumble. Yeah. And we'll give her a shout out. Holly. Holly, what's up, girl?
That was just, you know, we can all laugh about school buses. Yeah. And then, yeah, I mean, that's a
good thing to have something along those lines. Yeah. It tries me crazy when I see young comics
and they go down that road of, yeah, just the device of shit and it's like, come on, man. Yeah,
you can get past it. Yeah. Man, if you, if you take aside, then you're, you're limiting your audience,
you know, and like me, I, I, I'm not a guru or anything, but I feel like I haven't figured it out,
but like, okay, religion, I used to hate religion growing up. What, what, no, let me start over.
I was, I went to church growing up and I learned, you know, a lot about being a good person,
you know, but then you grow up and you start realizing how it's like controlled by money and it
divides people and war and this and that, you know, so then I hated religion and he should just like,
always try to preach a people, oh, this is, it's not real. It's, it's all about controlled power.
And then, and then now older, I'm like, hey, I appreciate anybody that believes in like something
to be a good person. You know, some type of incentive, there's good and bad people everywhere,
you know, in every group, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't need to take a stance on religion
because, hey, man, if you're like trying, if you have something that makes you want to be a good
person great and I don't really have to take signs on politics because, hey, you know, be, be a good
person, whether you're like these views or this views, there's like nothing, I can really
do to change the world other than be nice to the people around me, try to be a better person.
And I'm not perfect. Like, I'm, I can be shitty sometimes, but to try to be the best person,
I can be and if I can improve myself, then I'm doing something in the world. You know,
instead of just like screaming at people, we have different views, but I don't, like, hey, man,
we can all learn and do better, you know, and so I don't have to like fight for one side or the
other. The key is to be on the same side to like everybody, you know, but almost, that's wishful
thinking though, but, you know, it is. I mean, it is wishful thinking, but I also in the same aspect
of it, I think that there's nothing wrong with having lofty goals. Super fort. And then if you
fall short, at least you probably landed somewhere. Yeah, just don't want to bully or yeah,
yeah, I don't want to be a part of an argument. I want to be a part of a conversation. So if like,
if anybody wants to, I'm not inviting people to. Conversations, but if like, if like, oh, why aren't
you fighting the fight? Like, I'm not arguing. I'm not, I'm not trying to argue with nobody, but if you
want to talk about something, let's talk, you know, so yeah, I hear that. But you have shows coming
up every 17th year. Me, the culpepper, sangria bowl. Yeah, I think it's in a, I don't know much about,
I think it's in like a theater or what you should be at a theater, a J. A. Toler. Uh, Dungeon. Mineral.
Good to know with him. Uh, the one show is Hamil's great show. Uh, I'm excited to go see him again.
I'm excited to do something out of town. I'm excited to do 15 minutes. I'm trying to have been
tightening that up lately. I don't know if people have a culpepper, but this, this will be out
before then should be. So go see that if you happen to check this out. February 24th, Annie
Ruse right here, uh, close to me on whole street in mid-Lothin, doing clash of the comics on the 25th.
Yes. Yeah, right after that. Yes. A night after. Fet the funny bone, Richmond. You know,
excited about that. Gonna try to try to make an impression. The, the clash, man. It's like, uh,
a Richmond funny bone is the biggest club where we're at. It is the, it's the place where you
want to be, you know, if you're serious about comedy, I just love having something to look forward
to days to do, you know, probably it's way late into this podcast to promote it, but yeah, I do
run a show once every first Sunday and another round barn grill. Uh, you have done a great show
there. Have your set on YouTube. That was awesome. That was a fun time. That was really good.
Quick burn is available on my YouTube, Johnny podcast. Yeah, man. That was awesome. Uh, great set,
great time. Uh, but yeah, I do run the show every first Sunday at 7 p.m. at another round barn.
Grown Richmond. I love that. We don't have to talk much about it, but I do definitely you should
come out. It's a fun time. I do whatever I want. What's I need to work? I want to be in a, uh,
more friendly, not friendly. I am friendly, but more professional host because I get in there like
I'm the free track. So I need to like work on like, you know, uh, well, the show I did with you,
I definitely you've definitely had a comfort factor in that room. So one of the, like, when I first
go to a place to do comedy, even if I'm, you know, I'm working regularly, week after week,
the my first show in a new place tends to be kind of, you know, it's not, it's not quite me. It's not
quite me. Yeah, it's my jokes. Yeah, it's my, but it's not, that's not that comfort factor.
And when I saw you and on the round, because you're there every show running the show, which is great.
You definitely have a comfort factor, but I don't, I don't think it detracted from the show,
but it is, it is pretty, it's pretty laid back though. Yeah, I say that, which is cool.
What does cool? That's what I want it to be, man, where like anybody can come anybody,
no matter what, you know, you can do your offensive material, you can do your pro,
pro, whatever, whatever thing you support or want to put it, whatever, I want you to, I want
everybody to be able to do what they want, no matter what. And, but also, I've kind of realized,
I got some advice recently, what shall I really take into consideration, like, do I really
want to start a show, be in very dirty and vulgar and then, you know, and then bring on a comedy,
could might be a little more clean or, you know, so that's something that I'm really considering,
but I also, it's just so fun to have a room where I can do what I want in the crowd super cool,
you know, the crowds with it, but we've had some great shows there.
And one of your anniversary was cool, I'm looking forward to what's to come,
and it is cool having your own spot and being around friends and doing a show with friends,
like when I do Sammy to Mimi's room, man, this is my buddy bringing me up. I just feel like,
welcome, I feel like I'm, we're at home, we're hanging with the buds and like it makes a set go,
like I'm always had a good set there at the revela, how dirty, if you could, if you could have your
own show, you're the headline, you're the man, you're on Netflix, right? Yeah, it's your level of
blueness as we were saying that you would actually go to. Oh, yeah, man. So,
I'd love to like just cover it all. I have a few innocent jokes that are just like normal stuff
that anybody can relate to and then some of those really cool I did that don't tell show at the
lingerie place and the thing about comedy is you never know when you're gonna kill. You know,
if you're, you never know what the crowd's gonna be like, I mean, you can do well, but when you're
killing, you just have them in the palm of your hand. That's when I like, man, I have a couple of
jokes that I do different ways depending on the crowd, like it might be seen as offensive if
it bombs or whatever, but like, man, don't tell, I got to do like I just had them in for,
and then so I was like, when I got to the joke where I do it, sometimes I do it one way,
sometimes I do it the other way, and I just did it the offensive way, and it was like one of
my biggest pops, you know, and then afterwards I was like, yeah, sometimes I have to switch
that joke up, but y'all are cool, you know, you know, and I love crowds like y'all that. I don't
even want to say the topic, but it was just like, yeah, I love hateful crowds like you. I can say
what I want, you know, but it was a joke too, and they're not really hateful people, but I'm saying,
hey, yeah, we're all being paired together, you know, so like, yeah, I want to go from top to bottom,
like, if it's funny to me, I mean, if it's funny to me, and I can make it funny for other people,
like, I want to be, be our rated. Yeah, man, are, yeah. So one of the things, so what you were
you were talking about the, the whole thing with the launch rate, so that was actually what was
that, Lish's boutique, right? And you actually did, made me, almost made me spit my water out,
because I was watching, and the other reason I give this joke away is because it is on, I think
I Instagram, but you were talking about, now this is the first time I've ever been forced, I think
it's how you put it to do comedy with a bowner. Or will not necessarily forced, this is the first
time that I've had this first time I've ever had to do comedy with a bowner, because it was just,
yeah, man, it just, when you can get them with that first joke, I mean, there's lawns array everywhere,
yeah, yeah, there's, you can see it in the background, like a lot of people might not get it, but if you
look at the video, Patrick Logan comedy on Instagram, if you look at the video, you can see like sparkly
brawls in the background and stuff and, dude, I should, I should have was funny and one of the
things I always appreciate about watching an other, a comic, even before I ever did, I think a
big comedy was to see a comic do a joke that I could say there and go, man, fuck, I wish I
thought of that. Yeah, and I don't think I would have thought about that in that place, I literally,
I was so much fun, one of my most fun sets for sure, but it is cool when you do something
off the cuff, something improv with the first, because I don't even have an opener joke for
white crowds, man, I have an opener joke for black crowds, it's, I just want to start off by saying,
I'm one of the good whites, you know, and that always gets them really fast. I do not have an opener
for white crowds and like one of the openers I was using, it takes about 30 to 40 seconds to get to,
I like to get a laugh right away, so I really need to work on an opener for white crowds, but
when I can think of something improv and just get a laugh that quick, it was so much fun,
but when you try improv, when I try improv, to just start off saying something that's not
own script, it can go either way, it can go good or bad, you know? Well, you always want to,
so I was telling somebody, well, back, I was saying, you know, you know, get that mic out of the
stand clean, get that first laugh within like the first like 30 seconds, ideally you want to do
it like right off the bed and then I always tell people, stick the landing, because I don't,
I don't care how slow your role starts, yeah, you just get to that ending and I was one of the
biggest most frustrating things about me when I started back to in comedy, I wasn't sticking my
landings, yeah, and I always tell comics, stick your landings, like just, they don't have to be a huge
laugh, but just get to that point where you just, and you just, you just bow and punch us,
you punch it and then you bow and you're done, yeah, you can do that, man, you're, your five steps
ahead in the game in my opinion, as far as comedy goes. Yeah, man, that's, it reminds me of like,
when I did go to Austin, man, I, I, I was just seeing so many great comics and they're just
set up punch line and everybody has different set up punch line, set up punch line, it's just
getting laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, and then I come back and see the competition at Sam and comedy club,
and some guys, like some really good comics are on there, it's set up punch, set up punch, and I'm like,
it really changed the way I saw my writing process, like they all said everybody says cut the
fat cut the fat, but, but yeah, man, when you can just set something up and punch in it, like it's,
it's, it's, it's, it makes it almost more, it makes it fun, man, it makes it fun, but that
punch, yeah, man, I used to have it, I don't know where it is, it might be on a court board out of stairs,
but it was Bill Hicks, 10 rules of stand up, and one of them, well, one of his rules is, I don't have
anything playing, I just go out there and start and see where it leads me, and I've never been
able to follow that. But one of the things that it says is a economy of words, and, you know,
and pick the words, trim the fat, but don't trim out what you need, like make sure you get the
point across. Yeah. He also, one of the things he also said was, don't ask them if it's funny. Yes.
Tell them it's funny. That's one thing I notice with somebody I know, it's my close to I love
dearly, it's like, yeah, man, you have to tell them you're funny. You don't ask them, that, I mean,
that's, that means you said it, I just repeated exactly what you said, but yeah, man, like,
even if they're not laughing, and you just have that confidence in looking at, like, yeah,
this is funny, especially with like the Apollo night, whether trying to like boo you, it's like,
you have to have that confidence, you know, they want to boo you, you know, they might boo you
even if you're good, just, it's, did you get booed and you did the, the first time I went, I got
booed, but I came back, I have this awesome comeback. I'll go ahead and give away. Yeah,
there's somebody started booing and I was like, they didn't say boo, that's my baby mama. She said,
that's my boo, you know, and they died laughing. That's good, man. And then after they, they
laughed for like five to 10 seconds and then I was like, I'll be done in a moment sweetheart,
but then sometimes like I wonder like, am I coach switching because when I do a black room,
my accent comes out, you know, and sometimes I think man, am I coach switching, but the truth is,
I've actually coached switched to not have that accent, to not sound, who would or get or whatever,
but what could you say before you kind of grew up in that culture? Yeah, we're younger.
Rapping and then my job, I do customer service and when they, when they first hired me,
they were like, hey, you have to have your, I don't want to say the company, you have to have your,
your company voice. Sure. So like instead of saying, your corporate voice. Yeah, and instead of saying,
like, hey, I'm gonna look at your account, you have to say, I'm going to look at your account. Sure.
Or, you know, so that really helped me with comedy because I didn't use to always talk and pronounce
my words like this. So when I'm in front of a crowd, they can hear what I'm saying. You know,
they can understand. I mean, it is pretty cool how my job helped me be better at comedy,
you know, because I got into my job like a year or two before comedy. So getting that phone voice,
has helped me to work. But then when I am in front of a black crowd or like,
everybody's wild and I'm like, I love rap. You know, I love rap. You know, it's like,
it's like, yeah, and it's like, it is one girl, man, why girl, crazy, man. It's why girl said,
it's crazy shit to me. And it's like, like, people might say your coach switching, but no,
that that's, I'm coach switching right now, you know, like, I'm, you know, but it's cool,
man, I love the, I love psychology and just the different people. And yeah, so that's another interesting
thing. So there's like two sides of my comedy. Right. Well, I think you have the, you do have the
psychology because there is one of those things you have to sort of psychoanalyze people is to like,
what can I say? What can I not say? And not on like a fence level, but just really what can I do to
get them to make them laugh? And you have to sort of think about where are they coming from?
Well, you can paint that picture in their head and make them laugh about it. Right. Um, I also think
it's a, that's a good mentality to have. I also think it's cool that you admit that you have a job,
that you work a lot of people would come on this podcast, maybe comedy comedy. Do you have a job?
Job, but the fuck is that? Yeah, when they do, you know, they work down the street,
it fucking whatever. Yeah, man. Like the idea of being a like, like, a struggling comic, like, yeah,
that'd be awesome like 10 years ago. It's when I was 20, 24. I could see myself having room mates,
struggling being broke. I spent a lot of time doing that with rap, like just a work,
going to a restaurant job. Now, I finally, I've got a great job. Very thankful for it.
But it does, man, I'm exhausted, man. I've worked 40 hours and then I do comedy.
Feel like I could accomplish a lot more. That is a goal to like, I'm very far from it, but to
make a living, doing comedy, even if it's, but it is very nice having a job, being able to
to go out to the open mics, having gas, having money for beer to and a meal, being able to fund
what I want to do if I want to take a trip somewhere, you know, and I get that. Well, you all said,
you have a good hustle factor. Like you have a good, you have a good drive. I was saying before,
like I've done nothing but comedy at times. And there's time, like when I met my wife and then we
found out the six months later that pregnant, I could have supported myself on comedy money. But as
far as doing it and supporting them for the level I was at. Yeah, family. Yeah. It changed a lot.
And then, you know, so there's nothing wrong with that. That's good drive factor, man.
I'd really like to quit my job in five years or less, you know. And get it steady to where I can
have a family, like, okay, I've got like right now I couldn't possibly because I've got to be
it to next open like, you know, at home, sleep home. You know, like, I've just got to do it. I
got to keep it up. But it would be nice to get to the point where okay, it's solidified. I'm getting
work. And now I can, you know, but how do you even do it? Because comedy is a everyday thing, man.
It's like, it can't be. I mean, that's, you know, I'm not getting back to a deal with it. Like I used to,
but at the same time, it's, you know, hey, it is what it is. But like, friends is like, my wife's
awesome. Like she supports me doing comedy and everything. But I always say to her, hey, there's
an open mic at, you know, such and such thing about going, you know, is that cool with you? Where's
opposed to when you're a single guy? When I was your age, you know, I'd turn around. I'd pat the
dog, my dog and I'd head out through some food in his bowl and walk it door and be back three hours
later. No, you know, cares in the world. But, you know, things change, things change. And I,
yeah, do it like you can. Yeah, I'm going to some broad this thing out and, you know,
yeah, ride it out. See where the fuck it takes you? Yeah, man. I hear that. Patrick Logan,
you're a good guy. Thank you, man. I try to be like, I hope so. Yeah. You seem like, well, I
wouldn't have invited you to my house to meet my way of him at the Cadillet, but he was, he was
taken in that, but you, you can meet him after this. But when I'd done quiet with, when I
quite done with you yet, okay. I was here as much as you would still hear sitting here talking.
I'm captive in Chondi Miller's basement. I got my one corner over here and then you got the,
the crafts. I've told people here on the podcast. I'm literally looking at a, you know, a giant
Snoopy. Yes. Let's see it. I'm touching it. Here's a, hey, and Charlie Brown. Oh, yeah, I didn't
forgot Charlie was over there. Yeah. It just, yeah. He lowered me in with Star Wars posters. I do have
Star Wars posters and I do have others. I have my own side of it. All right. So a couple of things.
All right. So you are a Steelers fan, but you're a football fan. Yeah, man. All right. Let's talk about
Super Bowl. What you got? Oh, granted. This will probably come out that, maybe Monday. I'm, I'm
probably about a Monday at that early. So whatever you say is going to be post, Super Bowl. Yeah.
But so this could make me like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a 40 nine,
hours. You take it at nine or so. Okay. So like I love Patrick my homes and I love Travis Kelsey.
I want to see a good game. I know it'll be it. I just don't want to blow out either way. I want to
see a Super Bowl go down to the wire. You know, last week. But I think, uh, I like, I'd like to see
49ers win it. I mean, Patrick my homes is all over the place. He's been in Super Bowl a lot. And why do we
always hate to like, why do we always like to hate a winner? No, I don't hate him at all.
But it's like you want to see somebody. He's the best. So you want to see somebody beat him.
I was not, I was not hating on on all honesty. I was not really hating on my homes himself. I don't
like his wife, but, but that's one other story. I wasn't really on my homes until as far as a negative
fact to go, until I see him repeatedly, you know, the off sides, uh, self like that, or he throws a ball
and, you know, Tony misses a drops a ball. I don't know, he's got his own issues, but he drops a ball.
And where is my home? So in the middle of 65,000 people watching, he's going away. He's put his arms
away. You know, it's like, fuck you. You do get back in the hotel. Be a leader.
Like I damn football. Yeah. That's just like almost like second nature. Like, let me
try to get this flag. And sometimes the flag sometimes is not what's his name, Josh.
Uh, Josh Allen. Josh Allen. I'm a fan that did. He like, yeah, the big fan. He, uh,
and when he played the stealer, a week or two ago, he had like, uh, almost kneel, almost slid.
Oh, yeah. But then didn't slide and kept running and then, and then he goes to slide and like a
stealer's player hits them and then he goes to flag. Yeah, it gets to flag. Toses arms up and then
it is funny because I like, I'm like, oh, you can't always fake a slide and then get
man when somebody hits you. And then I actually commented that I don't usually get into our Facebook
arguments, but I was like, you can't always fake a slide and then get mad when somebody hits you
and then somebody commented, oh, it's always now. He did, and it's like, I caught myself being one
of those like mad football people like he didn't always, he did it once. And now like you can't
always fake a slide, you know, you fell in the air on trap. Yeah, man. But I think it's the thing
awful ball players do my grandma, uh, my late grandmother, she's about I hate the red skins because they
always cheating. Always trying to put the ball three yards ahead when they're, when they're already
down, you know, trying to like run and back so I get tackled and put the, but then you see everybody
doing it. And it's like, that's just, everybody's trying to get that extra inch that extra,
who was she, a fan of man. Oh, man, I should know this. I should know this. Well, usually they hate
the red skins or cowboys. Did she like the he hate the he hates? I think she might have liked the
Patriots. Was she a Brady fan? I believe I'd hate to save wrong in my grandmother, but uh, I think so.
But for, and this was like, I mean, she passed away a while ago. So it might have been like before
he had won all of them, you know, man. So she was, if she was a pacifist, he was back in the day when they
everybody's poor cousin. I don't know. I hope not to be getting it wrong, but if I am smite me,
um, but no, I think she, I think so. I'm gonna have to text my mom after this. I won't judge you.
Yeah. But uh, no, it's, it's funny how you were talking about getting an argument on Facebook.
I'm so glad I don't drink anymore. Like I haven't had a, a terrible Facebook argument with somebody
about sports at least in an, in an, in a long time. It's one of those things like I feel bad about
the same time. You know, all that, nothing to share what had happened. Like if it's the face,
yeah, well, I, no, I just, I feel like, um, no, I'll, I, I would not say anything online that I
wouldn't say to somebody's face. I try not to, because that's just a bunch of, you know,
pussy shit. But I, I, I just, I'm like, I would not have cared at the time nearly as much
of I wasn't hammered. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, man. We all, we all do shit.
We all say things we regret. And if you, if you don't think you have done something that you regret,
then you will, you know, you will or you're absolutely wrong because everybody's done something.
Or you'll just always be wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And like my life improved tremendously when I
stopped arguing on Facebook. Like, uh, because, you know, when somebody's, I mean, this was like
years ago, though, but uh, when somebody, when you're arguing with somebody on Facebook, there's no,
there's no real resolve. No, neither of you are going to be like, you know what, you're right.
And if you are, it's going to take a lot longer to get there than in person. And, uh, I mean,
I'm just like a big fan of some people might not toxic positivity, but like, I don't want to see
the negative shit, man. I don't want to see whether you're on this side or this side. I don't want to
see it, man. So the only thing I see on my algorithm now is a memes, comedy, jokes, whatever, like,
or good morning, uh, the grand rising king, you know, like, I'm not seeing no negative shit.
It might have affected my comedy too, because now I don't have strong opinions on things.
Let me write a joke about this. I don't know what's going on in the world.
Yeah. I think you're doing fine. It's like, I want to see good stuff. And yeah, the
day I stopped arguing on Facebook. So I don't, I don't even remember the topic, but I remember like,
I had a date. I'm not going to argue with this. I'm going on a date. You know, so I think it's
a fun life. You got to be. You got in whether whether you're right or wrong,
there's a, there's a negative headspace in a positive headspace and like to be in that always,
like, finding or arguing is just not good for anybody. Even if you are right, you know,
how you say things, I could be right all day, but if I'm screaming at it, somebody and like,
you know, what's the point? Yeah. Yeah. I have unfriended people that maybe said something
I didn't like on Facebook, but I'm also reading it in a bad way. I'm unfriended people
and then seeing them in public, you're like, man, why did I? This guy's great. You know, or this
girl's great. You know, why did I, if you're like spewing your, your, uh, just your negative
feelings on a Facebook, then it's like me. I just don't want to see. I just want to consume
positive stuff mostly. Yeah. I think we're all guilty of like unfriending somehow. This person said
this unfriend. Then you see him in their cool and it's like, and you've also, I've also said things
that I look back and like, how did I say that? You know, right, there are times where like, I've
gotten into an argument with somebody, screw that person, and then years later, running to somebody
and they've gone, oh, you know that person? Yeah, I can't stand that person. I go, I can't
stand that person either. Yeah. It's like you bond over it or something. Yeah. Yeah. Or what about
when somebody unfriends you and you're like, why? Yeah. I never. I've never worried about it.
Everybody has the freedom of what you choose to consume in your brain. Right. You know,
I mean, I'm very blessed. We're all very blessed to like, if you've got arms, legs, heat,
water, a bed, but really makes my life better. It's just like, being appreciative and just
consuming stuff that makes me feel good. You know, and I mean, I think there's a fight to be
fought, but I used to get mad about a lot of stuff and try and, but I was actually being a worse
person by carrying around that attitude, man. And to actually, you know, consume stuff that makes
me feel good and trying to do things that make me feel good, being grateful for what I have.
I mean, that's just like, it's made my life a lot better. And we're all, well, go through things that
really fuck us up and like, might, you know, change your attitude for a little bit. And that's also a
young rebellious thing. And we do need rebellion, but it's like, I guess maybe I'm just to the age
now where I'm just like, I'm not rebelling anymore. I'm just, but I'm also not conforming. I'm just
making it work for me. I don't know, JFK said or somebody said it. The best way to change something
is to infiltrate it. You're not going to take over the government. You're not going to fight the
government. You're not going to fight the police. They will always win. But we can infiltrate them
everybody. You hate to government be a politician. You know, you hate the police be a police,
be the good in the world that you want to see and change the culture from being a part of the
culture. Being a part of it. Being a whatever the culture, I think culture, but being into the
dynamic, like, if you're not a part of it, you're not going to be able to fight it. You have to be a
part of it in order to make a change in it. Yeah, man, the only way there's going to be a this
side versus this side, if there's a civil war, if there's a apocalypse. And we don't want either of those.
I don't want either of those. I used to want it. I used to be like, man, I hope all this shit
burn, I hope all this shit goes to shit. Like, no, me, I love electricity. I love having food in the
fridge. I love heat in AC. So it's like, you know, how can we all work together to make a better world,
man? And if we can't change the whole world, let's make our world better. You know, I don't know,
do. It's all good. That's a good message. That's a good thing to, but there's a lot of shitty things
going on in it on the, oh, I don't want it. Well, I don't end it on shit. Come on. I don't want to
discredit like anybody that's not having a good time. There's, I mean, but, but for those who are blessed,
you know, appreciate it. Right. No. My wife and my son have taught me more about appreciating what I have.
I especially with my wife and my, and everything was staying up on me with a quitting drink and everything
I was at that and it just stood. The type of person I was when I was at and it's been a really
hard try to try to just kind of rebuild myself, which is what I've been trying to do. And part of that
was getting back to no-encomedy and also changes the other things. I think it's awesome, man. I think
it's awesome. You know, when I heard one of your podcasts recently a thousand days, you know,
I mean, it's hard to, it's hard to change your life like that, man. It is. It's, I, I don't
like listen to me. I'm like, yeah, it is. God, David. No, it is, but I tell you, I appreciate it. It
makes you appreciate things a lot. Yeah, man. I mean, a bigist, uh, I mean, I didn't even really change my
lifestyle until something happened, man. Like I had health issues, my gut issue, my gut, my
diverticularitis ended up getting a colon resection and an ostomy bag, you know, and like,
that's when I stopped doing adoror, I stopped, you know, smoking cigarettes, even though I'm vaping
the shit now, it's for everybody that says vaping is worse, vaping, it doesn't affect your gut
bacteria. Still might mess my lungs up, but I had to focus on my gut, but now I mean, I hope,
I think somebody said something recently, like, if you don't change life will make you change.
And that's what I think is I try to tell people. You got to be happy. Yeah, man, and like if it just
got to anybody or go, you're no good to anybody else. Yeah, man, nobody's going to come serve
happiness on a platter to you. And I know sometimes like depression is stuff, it's in the brain,
it's a chemical imbalance, it's this and that, I mean, if I could tell anybody, they try to find
something small that makes you happy, you know, the other than drugs, sex, alcohol, you know,
just like, kind of, nobody's going to find it for you, you know, and everybody's happiness is
different, like comedy for me, family, taking a walk, but, you know, you're going to try to find it.
That was awesome. Do you're a good dude, my thanks, man. We're trying to be, man. Thanks for
coming me. Yeah, dude, you're awesome. And welcome back anytime. All right, I think you're done.
I think I'm cut. You think we're done. I think we're he's like, get the hell out of my house. No,
not. I'm not looking out for a few days. Hey, man, enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. Yeah, dude.
So how is that everybody? Thanks again to Patrick for coming on the show.
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after the Super Bowl was over. And I didn't want to give away the fact that he was a rapper.
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