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Blast off what's really good ladies and gentlemen.

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It's the OG booty good Don Dada aka chef This

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is the guy rocking that 1971 old -school for

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horsemen the four bums Listen Muppets mother

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Tina's so Anyone who's talking wrestling number

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one topic has got to be the greatest of all time

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John Cena, right? So Don't know how I feel because

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literally I'm gonna I'm trying not to make this

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long -winded. So I'm out of life. I'm telling

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Take your time cuz there's gonna be a long almost

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an hour episode of John Cena. So yeah for sure

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Are you system brother? So I'm with the wife

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and my son and I'm like his last match and I'm

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not one of these OD wrestling fans that have

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to watch something right like I'm not one of

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those. I watch it when I watch it, but... When

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we've been doing this, we've never had a top

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five, depending on who you want to slot one through

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five, I don't care. Since doing these podcasts,

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we've never had Cena, Hogan, retire. I mean,

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Flair, Hogan, The Rock. We didn't have those.

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We didn't have a podcast at that time. It's The

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Vault Times. We have to cover like this. So...

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Not only that, I'm a big Cena fan. I love Cena.

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I love what he stands for and everything. John

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Cena just seems like a good egg, right? So what

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pisses me off about the situation is not the

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fact that he took an L on his last fight. It

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has nothing to do with that. John Cena stood

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for, right, it was on all of his t -shirts. Never

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give up was one of his catchphrases. And you

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decided to make him tap out and give up. I have

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a deal with this because this is a once in a

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lifetime type of wrestler, right? We're never

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going to have a John Cena again. Like we're never

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going to have a Ric Flair. Like we're never going

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to have the Rock or Austin, Hogan. We're never

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going to have those guys. And I kind of liked

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when he gave that smirk like, you got me. I'm

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out right So I was like, you know what? I'll

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take that because I hated I hated him tapping

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out Let it be I don't care anything but him tapping

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out. Yeah, I think it's absolute bullshit So

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I feel away my wife feels away who's not the

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biggest wrestling fan. She likes wrestling fan

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Alex was super Pissed off and we're all like

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yo, this is fucking all the wrestlers start coming

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in and I'm like Alright, I know what's going

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on here. They're gonna do the clap go around

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the ring, you know, it's what they they do for

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their legends, right? When seeing punk of all

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people came in, you know, I'm not a seeing punk

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fan Cody Rhodes came in seeing punk puts the

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belt on Cena's shoulder Cena try to tell them

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not it's all good baby. Like now and Cody Rhodes

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Oh You're you're the guy right like this what

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I will say As I remember a long time ago, when

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Hulk Hogan had his last match, The Rock and John

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Cena put their belts on Hulk Hogan. So he got

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to get that tribute back to him, right? I thought

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that was super special. There's a few things

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with this run that we were excited about and

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nothing had happened, kind of like. It was, oh,

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Cena turned heel for the first time ever and

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then we never seen The Rock or him do anything

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again. You're like, all right, that made no sense.

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I like this little thing with Dominic Mysterio,

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even though Donovan is red hot. I think when

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we do a trivia at some point in our life, the

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last belt that Cena held who beat him, Dominic

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Mysterio will always be tied to that wrestling

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history. So pretty cool, but You look at this

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guy's legacy and what he meant to the business.

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I Think they did an injustice with him tapping

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out. I I'm like fan of Gunther You know Gunther

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comes from my love for ICW in progress and all

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that other shit. So I Think that it was a it

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was a good match. It made Gunther, you know,

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Gunther is a beast already. It's not like he

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eats this push But I mean, up into his car because

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people wanted to attack this guy. This is the

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kind of heat country is gonna have for a little

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while because you just tapped out John Cena,

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right? I'm a little upset about it though, right?

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It's our first one that we actually have to talk

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about, not just text each other, yo, Cena's last

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match, all right, cool, and whatever. We gotta

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sit here and actually talk and get our feelings

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across. of how do we feel about last match? How

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do we feel about this last run? What's next,

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right? Like we know he's gonna go into movies

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and do all his TV show stuff and all that stuff.

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You don't see this, he's a busy guy. But we just

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lost one of the greatest of all time. My bad,

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just talk to me. This is gonna be a long show

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on this. Like I said, this is gonna be, the whole

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show is gonna be about around Cena, so. You go

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ahead take out of your system. I just want to

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say one thing You always mentioned your wife

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is not a big wrestling fan. Yeah, but wife is

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always I every wrestling show period from from

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Everywhere you go resting. She's always there.

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Well from the days Not being a wrestling fan

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the lady is there at every show I won't I gotta

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say So she liked it like before she knew me like

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when she was she was a fan of wrestling, you

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know, she like Hulk Hogan and macho man all these

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guys and When we went to impact it was for me

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in the boys, right? She kind of was just like

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it was cool. Whatever right like inside I'm going

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with the family and then she got to meet people

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like Bram Chains storm who she became very familiar

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with and you know He knew her first name and

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they were cool. So there were a lot of wrestlers

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like she loves rock star spud. So it kind of

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We always say, watch on TV, but if you're at

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in a venue, if you're there, it's awesome. If

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the crowd is good, the energy is amazing. But

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the one thing I'll say is she does know certain

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wrestlers I like and she'll make it a point to

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sit with me and have this fun. She knows me,

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you talk this shit. She took a bunch of pictures

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on her phone. If you guys need something that

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came out really cool of John Cena I'll throw

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them on Instagram because we bring it up urban

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wrestling network on Instagram But um, yeah,

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she just she said staring does it but she'll

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always say I'm not a fan, right? But when we're

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sitting there and and we got a massive like wraparound

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couch and a huge TV And I'm sitting there. I'm

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just shutting the fuck up enjoying the the end,

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right? I know we're gonna talk this so I'm processing

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How am I going to talk this shit with muffins?

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And you know, it's more than just watching the

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event. I know we got to do this. So I'm just

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sitting in the cut and she's like, no moves.

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I'm like, yo, relax. Let me watch. She's like,

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yo, this is bullshit. I'm like, I thought you

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said you don't really like wrestling. But she

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gets so dialed into it. But you know, she likes

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to say it. I'll say it. But even with her, she

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understood like when we were actually when we

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were raising Rob, our oldest was 25 now. He is

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the scene a kid right like he was a little kid

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when Cena first came in dealing with the undertaker.

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Yeah So Cena was very big in our home our now

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25 year old Grew up watching him. So she was

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invested in him like because we got all the DVDs

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and everything to watch at home You know, so

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and this is what I say end of an era We see the

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gun taker on TV. We see Triple H on TV Don't

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think we're gonna see John Cena on T unless you're

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watching. What's that show that he's on now?

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It's like a superhero Peacemaker right If you

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watch that yeah, but that's not WWE that that's

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it I don't think he's gonna be one of these guys

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that come back and do the What they said that

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he signed off is there three or five year deal

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with don't leave where he's actually gonna be

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Showing up at the shows, but it's more as a Like

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a backstage person kind of like the rock does

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yeah helping out You know doing stuff like this

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here, and so we will see him more often We just

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would not see him wrestling and then now that's

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what scene is to us right? Yeah Yeah, so but

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the thing is like you know going back to the

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whole match itself I Didn't like the ending Did

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not like the ending I hated it. I really hated

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the ending. I would have liked them for him to

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pass out To yeah, okay And not do this crappy

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Look, where's the camera? We're supposed to look

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at all supposed to look here. Okay, I'm gonna

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look at the camera give you this and then Like

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we just look like this is how they wanted me

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to go out. Yeah, I feel look on his face So I

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did not like the finish of that at all. I did

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not like it fans Going crazy After the whole

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thing in Gunther having to get walked to the

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to the bus ridiculous and and having fans, you

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know Cursing at him, you know a few Gunther and

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stuff that right there. It's all right There

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is just gives wrestling fans a bad name who are

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you resting fans? Dude, it's a scripted show.

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It's like he was like, for the world, if Gunther

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wins, then they're going to pass this law that

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you can't do this or that for the next, whatever.

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And people are going crazy. No, dude, like, no.

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You don't go out there and start approaching

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the man out, and he has to get some kind of,

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you know, security. Detail walk to to the to

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the bus. No, that's that's uncalled for I was

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like totally uncalled for see and the thing that

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the thing that pisses me off is yes Listen, we

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understand wrestling is fake. We understand it's

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scripted right? Like let's not act like fucking

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idiots We all understand is scripted and they're

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the dictated winner of Pre predetermined Twitter.

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Let me say that most of these guys are friends

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Most of them hang out happy years together. Most

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of them chill and have a good time. But like

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the thing is people fucking relax You act like

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Cena didn't know this was gonna happen. He knew

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it was gonna happen. Why are you making it this

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crazy? It's a show it's Entertainment, you know,

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like what are you? What are you threatening somebody

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for? Yeah, dad right there make no sense to me.

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Um Go after show thing one day which I hate this

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part all this stupid interview like post post

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You do afterwards. I I hate that I hate that

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I I don't know what They're trying to be UFC.

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Yeah, exactly. But then Triple H getting booed

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and, you know, FU and all the kind of stuff.

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I'm pretty sure, and I'll bet this, Triple H

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had nothing to do with how this finish was. I'm

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pretty sure this is all TKO sat down around people.

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What is the best way for him to go out? And Triple

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H being the face that's always there, he's going

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to get the heat for it. So I'm pretty sure him

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being a former wrestler for a long time. I'm

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pretty sure that's not the way he wanted things

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to end but he's being the fake he's gonna take

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the heat for it and They were giving him the

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heat so to sit there and saying and blame him

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for You know, well what you can't do this to

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seen about I'm pretty sure he had nothing to

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do with that. He just hey I'm just a face of

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the company. I'm just an employee. I work here

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That's what they wanted to do and You're not

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gonna see a TKO president or anybody else from

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the board of directors sitting there taking questions

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Okay, so that's why you have that's why you have

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the the face figure being triple -edged the one

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as the president that's gonna be there all the

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time and And take the heat for the good stuff

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and take the heat for when shit goes bad which

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in this case people didn't like this so He's

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going to have to be there. He's in the line of

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fire, period. So the way I can say that is we

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know that years ago, Dana White sold USC, right?

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He's not the owner of USC. He works for whoever

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bought it. I guess it's TKO. Yeah, TKO on Saudi

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Arabia. OK. So who sits there for talks, every

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event, for everything? White, right? It's Dana

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White, because you know him. You identify with

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him as the guy of ufc They put him to precedent

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and he's the face of the company even though

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he's like the president of the states. He's a

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puppet. Yeah, so if I sat back If I sat back

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today And I went on my phone and i'm tko and

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I said your hunter you're fired. I don't need

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you Okay, one you're gonna piss off a lot of

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people because what they identify as with their

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own. He's our entertainment and our favorite

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wrestlers and all that other shit, Shawn, Michael,

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Sue. And the next day, some random guy, Joe,

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whatever, comes out and he's the face of wrestling.

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Who the fuck is this guy? Exactly. Okay, so relax

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with fucking every time something bad happens.

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Listen, somebody's got to fall on the sword.

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When shit bad happens in UFC, they ain't a white

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fold on the sword. When bad shit happens in NXT,

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same shit with Triple H, right? It's the same

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thing where when Impact got bought by Ed Nordholm,

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what's that shit called again? Yeah, Anthem.

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Anthem. Okay, we've seen all wrestlers come on

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there. And then you kind of seen Ed Nordholm

00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:11.559
moving around. You're like, nobody gives a fuck

00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.360
about this guy. You're not a wrestler. You have

00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.440
no fucking no pedigree in this. Nobody cares

00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.559
about you. They figured it out quick. kept it

00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:22.360
right back on town like all right, let me just

00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:25.879
keep my ass away from this because You know people

00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.500
don't want to see me, but he was always at the

00:15:28.500 --> 00:15:31.620
event. Well, it's the same. Okay, so yeah Dixie

00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:34.580
took some spots Well, this was this he was always

00:15:34.580 --> 00:15:36.620
other against when she was the president Yeah,

00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.259
when Ed when they do when they put Ed norm home

00:15:39.259 --> 00:15:42.279
as the face or whatever the president He was

00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:43.919
always out of the event because I used to take

00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.519
pictures with him all the time and then now When

00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.100
they did the whole reshuffle It's Carlos Silva.

00:15:50.299 --> 00:15:55.620
He's always at the vets. So he's there now. But

00:15:55.620 --> 00:15:58.200
when you think about it, and I'm not so last

00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.039
because I don't really watch a lot of impact.

00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.559
I do know because when you send me things Santino

00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:09.019
Marella is very highly on screen. Right. And

00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:13.360
I'm OK with Santino being what he is. I'm OK

00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.440
with it because I think he's a funny guy and

00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:21.700
you know, whatever. He's all right. But you gotta

00:16:21.700 --> 00:16:24.399
respect it, but if something happens, guy, who

00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:25.940
do you think is gonna pull on it? It's gonna

00:16:25.940 --> 00:16:27.500
be Carl Silver. When that live grenade comes

00:16:27.500 --> 00:16:29.679
up, all right, Carl Silver, that's you. Boom,

00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.480
you gotta deal with it, right? It just, it bothers

00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.360
me, bro, because we get wrapped up, me, you,

00:16:36.700 --> 00:16:39.360
Rob K, whoever, whoever talks any kind of wrestling

00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:44.820
from independent to majors. People like us get

00:16:44.820 --> 00:16:47.480
tied in with these assholes. Ah, look at these

00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:49.840
nerds, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know?

00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.779
Look, they think it's real, whatever. It's real?

00:16:54.139 --> 00:16:56.580
The fucking - It's real to me, Jeff. It's real

00:16:56.580 --> 00:17:00.000
to me, Jeff. It's real to me. And I just had

00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.559
a conversation with somebody, one of the Ice

00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.799
Wars fighters. And it actually makes sense for

00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.599
me to say what I'm gonna say. So he was talking

00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.599
about belts. Ice Wars don't have belts yet. And

00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.660
he knows I'm a wrestling fan. So he goes, ah,

00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:15.940
yeah, but it's a lot tougher than wrestling.

00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.420
No, it's not I said you guys fight once every

00:17:19.420 --> 00:17:24.440
other month. Yep Wrestlers let's just say WWE

00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.940
and AW these guys are in a different city every

00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:37.759
week Let me explain to you how the body takes

00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:39.880
a toll when you're not sleeping in your own bed

00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.680
I'm not even talking about being at an event

00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.849
getting fucking suplex or or power bump, I'm

00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:47.789
not even talking about that. I'm talking about

00:17:47.789 --> 00:17:53.130
losing rest, right, because you're traveling,

00:17:53.450 --> 00:17:56.470
jet lag, moving around. Then you got to go out

00:17:56.470 --> 00:18:00.730
there and get slammed on wooden boards with mats

00:18:00.730 --> 00:18:04.950
that are this big. OK, that's your padding while

00:18:04.950 --> 00:18:07.410
your body's hitting it. So don't act like we

00:18:07.410 --> 00:18:10.089
don't know the fucking game. Like I've set rings

00:18:10.089 --> 00:18:12.690
up, like I've taken a few bumps. This shit sucks.

00:18:13.269 --> 00:18:17.349
But This is the shit these guys. Yes, it's fake.

00:18:17.549 --> 00:18:21.690
Okay, but the injuries the bumps the bruises

00:18:21.690 --> 00:18:25.769
All this shit is super real go. All right. Well

00:18:25.769 --> 00:18:28.750
shit Why do you think these guys have the time

00:18:28.750 --> 00:18:30.910
with them moving around don't want to sit there

00:18:30.910 --> 00:18:32.950
and sign something? They're fucking exhausted.

00:18:33.309 --> 00:18:35.349
They're hungry. They're fucking beat the hell

00:18:35.349 --> 00:18:38.109
up You know what I mean? And it takes a toll

00:18:38.109 --> 00:18:41.190
and it but then you got a guy like Cena who if

00:18:41.190 --> 00:18:44.799
there's a little kid He's popping pictures What's

00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.980
up, you know, da da da. You know what I mean?

00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:53.579
We had a great one literally Yeah, and the thing

00:18:53.579 --> 00:18:57.539
that I was gonna say also I've lived already

00:18:57.539 --> 00:19:02.079
a lifetime where I seen My favorite rest is grow

00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:06.500
up where I was growing up. Yeah the four horsemen

00:19:06.500 --> 00:19:09.960
Midnight Express Rock and Roll Express You know

00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:16.210
all those guys Come in and they're retired. Now,

00:19:16.670 --> 00:19:18.849
and this is a question that I want to ask you

00:19:18.849 --> 00:19:23.450
about this year. Now, we went into W3 or WF and

00:19:23.450 --> 00:19:27.950
then to W3. Under Vince McMahon, there was The

00:19:27.950 --> 00:19:33.049
Rock, Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Triple H,

00:19:33.769 --> 00:19:39.869
Undertaker. And the last one under Vince McMahon's

00:19:39.869 --> 00:19:46.230
watch, John Cena. So all of McMahon's creations

00:19:46.230 --> 00:19:50.289
The one the last guy that was there was John

00:19:50.289 --> 00:19:54.630
Cena retired on Saturday. So everybody under

00:19:54.630 --> 00:19:59.369
the Uncle Vince Eiffel that he spent his time

00:19:59.369 --> 00:20:04.670
and energy to build as that next superstar is

00:20:04.670 --> 00:20:08.670
Gone, so that's another 20 years of our life

00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:13.650
25 years of our life that we've ex Put into this

00:20:13.650 --> 00:20:17.910
that's gone and it's over. So now the now you

00:20:17.910 --> 00:20:20.470
guys should go and say, okay The uncle Vince

00:20:20.470 --> 00:20:23.890
McMahon book is closed. The chapter is closed

00:20:23.890 --> 00:20:27.509
So now a new book, would you call Roman? Would

00:20:27.509 --> 00:20:33.690
you call Roman a Vince guy? Not really because

00:20:33.690 --> 00:20:38.869
He hasn't done have I mean he has even touch

00:20:38.869 --> 00:20:42.210
have of any of those guys that I've mentioned's

00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:45.450
career yet. No, no, I think my question was more

00:20:45.450 --> 00:20:49.089
like, would you consider him a Vince McMahon

00:20:49.089 --> 00:20:53.130
guy? Or would you consider him a Vince McMahon

00:20:53.130 --> 00:20:58.730
Triple H guy? Exactly. I consider him more of

00:20:58.730 --> 00:21:01.109
that new regime when Triple H was already there

00:21:01.109 --> 00:21:05.369
with Shawn Michaels, still under McMahon, not

00:21:05.369 --> 00:21:09.289
under the McMahon watch from before. So now,

00:21:09.410 --> 00:21:13.529
moving forward, the Uncle Vince chapter book,

00:21:13.529 --> 00:21:16.769
whatever you call it, is closed. Now, more question

00:21:16.769 --> 00:21:20.490
to you is this. A new chapter's gonna open now

00:21:20.490 --> 00:21:24.650
under the Triple H slash TKO book now. Now, just

00:21:24.650 --> 00:21:29.190
moving forward, we're going to put... Who? Randy

00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:34.670
Orton. Oh yeah, Randy, oh yes. Yeah, but, I mean...

00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.200
He's I mean he's not seen that he's not the rock

00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:42.200
Unfortunately, unfortunately his body has let

00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.759
him down the last couple of years Yeah, a lot

00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.000
of injuries to his neck a lot of time off. I

00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.400
mean year year and a half Fortunately for Cena

00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.819
Cena was never if he was injured He was never

00:21:53.819 --> 00:21:56.579
injured like this like he was all for for a year

00:21:56.579 --> 00:21:59.619
and a half Yeah, you know I'm saying I think

00:21:59.619 --> 00:22:02.980
I think Cena had like one major issue the shoulder

00:22:02.980 --> 00:22:05.359
I believe And he was back quick. Yeah, well,

00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.420
then he came back in that mania early. I mean

00:22:07.420 --> 00:22:11.940
not mania, uh, yeah, yeah, number 30 and the

00:22:11.940 --> 00:22:14.240
whole place Madison Square Garden went crazy

00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:21.380
when nothing exploded so Randy Orrin, unfortunately

00:22:21.380 --> 00:22:25.440
I consider him like halfway already retired.

00:22:25.700 --> 00:22:29.000
So yeah, so so he's still under McMahon's watch

00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.440
but Just a meta time when they will say okay

00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.099
He's gone. So I don't I don't know I but I see

00:22:38.099 --> 00:22:40.559
your point but now moving forward under the new

00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.720
TKO book with Triple H Who do you see as that

00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.900
breakout star? Like you said now Roman Reigns

00:22:47.900 --> 00:22:51.319
could be that guy now under the Triple H TKO

00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.839
Seth Rollins, but I mean Seth Rollins keeps falling

00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.779
apart Yeah, I was thinking Seth Rollins, but

00:22:57.779 --> 00:22:59.240
then when you were talking injuries, I'm like

00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.599
damn he's always hurt. He's always hurt. Cody

00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.200
gets hurt, Cody gets hurt, but not for long term.

00:23:05.579 --> 00:23:09.220
Yeah, but Cody was under McMahon and then he

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:13.319
left. Well, see, that's why I won't say, I won't

00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:16.059
give Cody a McMahon thing. It's not because he

00:23:16.059 --> 00:23:19.180
left and he wasn't even that big when he was

00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:21.950
in the McMahon regime either. You know, he was

00:23:21.950 --> 00:23:25.130
like exactly he went to impact his pain and star

00:23:25.130 --> 00:23:29.690
dust or whatever. Yeah, and gold dust And we

00:23:29.690 --> 00:23:32.630
built himself somewhere else for years and came

00:23:32.630 --> 00:23:36.210
back and now you have this serious Cody Rose

00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:39.069
Wait, I mean and that's the thing with Cody and

00:23:39.069 --> 00:23:41.950
I'm glad you bring him up So Cody jumped to impact

00:23:41.950 --> 00:23:44.269
right cuz I was there when he was there. Yeah

00:23:44.269 --> 00:23:46.930
Cody was there Did his thing for a few months?

00:23:47.069 --> 00:23:48.309
I think it was like four or five months whatever

00:23:48.309 --> 00:23:52.309
it was. Yeah, because he did he went to ROH TNA

00:23:52.309 --> 00:23:55.690
New Japan So he was he made a list and he was

00:23:55.690 --> 00:24:00.829
in a bullet club for a while And he was hitting

00:24:00.829 --> 00:24:05.089
all those places for storylines for three to

00:24:05.089 --> 00:24:08.970
four months per Company doing things for them.

00:24:09.049 --> 00:24:11.430
He jumped to AEW was there for a little bit,

00:24:11.430 --> 00:24:15.289
right? When he won the NWA belt So Matt, yeah,

00:24:15.410 --> 00:24:18.470
which was listen also, um, and we're not talking

00:24:18.470 --> 00:24:20.750
we'll eventually have a cody listen me me and

00:24:20.750 --> 00:24:23.410
Muffins We're gonna be doing this for many more

00:24:23.410 --> 00:24:26.730
years. Um, we're winning that belt in nwa We'll

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:28.609
talk about that at another time when that cody

00:24:28.609 --> 00:24:30.970
shit comes up, but that shit was special even

00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:35.950
even if Whatever see who dusty son. Yeah men

00:24:35.950 --> 00:24:40.690
more. Um cody He jumped around like we said,

00:24:40.690 --> 00:24:45.500
um hold his game When he came back to WWE, he

00:24:45.500 --> 00:24:50.319
wasn't Stardust or Goldust, right? He was a legit

00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:57.539
and Triple H. Exactly. What did you think of

00:24:57.539 --> 00:25:03.140
Cody standing around looking hurt at Cena's shoes

00:25:03.140 --> 00:25:06.180
and his armbands? Did you see the video? Well,

00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:07.559
yeah, I saw the video, but you still haven't

00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:09.440
answered my question. I don't want to jump and

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:14.869
jump. Who do you see as - the new phase taking

00:25:14.869 --> 00:25:18.269
over the new chapter book under the Triple H

00:25:18.269 --> 00:25:21.410
TKO regime. So I got you. I got you. You're going

00:25:21.410 --> 00:25:26.890
to fall under Triple H now. I got too old and

00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:31.089
I think he's close to the end, right? So AJ will

00:25:31.089 --> 00:25:34.829
never be a WWE guy. No, he's a TNA guy. He's

00:25:34.829 --> 00:25:37.549
a TNA guy, period. Yes. You know, and people

00:25:37.549 --> 00:25:40.349
could say, oh, he was ROH, New Japan. No, he's

00:25:40.349 --> 00:25:43.819
a TNA guy. He's a TNA guy. Fucking relax. I would

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:45.740
love to say aging because he's older and he you

00:25:45.740 --> 00:25:47.160
know, he still got some great matches in him

00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.480
But I think it's cody rhodes and I know people

00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:54.099
are gonna get mad But I think it's fucking dominic

00:25:54.099 --> 00:26:00.599
mysterio Okay, see young guy mid -20s If he avoids

00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.140
any type of injuries He's gonna be there for

00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:08.839
the next 20 25 years easy Easy he will be the

00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.859
he'll be don't probably turn face now and then

00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:15.599
have him run as a face for the next 20 years

00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.140
and then when we're in our 70s, we'll see him

00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:21.859
turn heel and they all this is the same thing

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:24.640
to do with John Cena towards the end of his career

00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:28.740
I was gonna say you are brown breaker a style

00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:31.680
like Ron. You know, my problem is with brawn.

00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.569
We're in an era where Promo work is needed Right,

00:26:35.569 --> 00:26:37.609
and I know you could put like a Paul Heyman with

00:26:37.609 --> 00:26:41.049
him or whatever. I know that I get that but Braun

00:26:41.049 --> 00:26:43.609
Breaker doesn't feel like Brock Lesnar, right?

00:26:43.809 --> 00:26:46.670
Like yeah, he's an athletic guy. Yeah, he's strong.

00:26:46.789 --> 00:26:50.890
I forgot Brock Lesnar on their McMahons regime

00:26:50.890 --> 00:26:55.970
Yeah, that's what I'm saying when I think when

00:26:55.970 --> 00:27:00.769
I think Somebody I would call home, right? Brock

00:27:00.769 --> 00:27:04.000
was too in and out with UFC. Yeah Right, so I

00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.319
wouldn't consider him even though yeah, and you

00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.420
know, whatever Um, and then if you know, we'll

00:27:09.420 --> 00:27:11.599
eventually if smart asses watch this they'll

00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.720
probably go what about drew mcintyre? Drew hasn't

00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.079
been drew forever. He's in a he's a mid -car

00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.619
tier guy It did this drew wasn't the same dude.

00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:25.660
I was there the first time No, it's not it's

00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:28.779
not the same guy and then drew like cody rose

00:27:28.779 --> 00:27:33.000
built itself outside of del deli He went to evolve

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.039
before, you know, if all was a thing impact to

00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.519
impact to in TNA He that's what he really blew

00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.099
up was in TNA before he went back to the three

00:27:44.099 --> 00:27:48.259
and became this Drew McIntyre that we see now,

00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:53.700
so He's a great wrestler, yes, you could talk

00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:55.799
about when you look at tears right like real

00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.099
quick so When we talk to Cena's, the Rocks, the

00:27:59.099 --> 00:28:02.799
Austin's, Hogan's, Flair's, that's the ones that

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.619
they're all on Mount Rushmore, but there's only

00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:06.960
four heads, but they're all on Mount Rushmore,

00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.859
right? So you could debate who's there, but they're

00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:12.700
the greatest of all time. And then you have the

00:28:12.700 --> 00:28:14.960
tier underneath them that are fucking legends,

00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.579
right? Randy Orton is one of those guys that's

00:28:18.579 --> 00:28:21.640
right on the scene on all them. Drew McIntyre

00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:27.369
is underneath Randy Orton. He's fun to watch.

00:28:27.950 --> 00:28:30.769
He's strong, physical, all that shit. But he's

00:28:30.769 --> 00:28:33.589
just not that guy. And I respect the shit out

00:28:33.589 --> 00:28:36.509
of him. But when we're looking, we go, OK, do

00:28:36.509 --> 00:28:39.849
I think Gunther, seen his last match, do I think

00:28:39.849 --> 00:28:42.849
Gunther is going to be the next big, hopefully,

00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:45.450
right? I know he's been killing it now. I know

00:28:45.450 --> 00:28:48.490
a lot of people didn't like him prior. I mean,

00:28:48.589 --> 00:28:50.450
phenomenal wrestler. Let's just keep going. And

00:28:50.450 --> 00:28:53.029
if he stays healthy, the next 10 years, he'll

00:28:53.029 --> 00:28:57.130
give push. When you know, he'll be You know,

00:28:57.130 --> 00:29:01.490
he's really in years I still think they should

00:29:01.490 --> 00:29:03.930
have got this should they should have had somebody

00:29:03.930 --> 00:29:08.349
younger go up against Cena Like like you just

00:29:08.349 --> 00:29:11.450
mentioned at Dominic Mysterio. Yeah in for Dominic

00:29:11.450 --> 00:29:16.650
Dominic to defeat Cena in his last match. Oh

00:29:16.650 --> 00:29:19.829
my god, that would have been the rub to start

00:29:19.829 --> 00:29:22.910
him from there because He's already killing it

00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.819
He would have got the feather and his cap that

00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:29.700
would have been it because the next 25 30 years

00:29:29.700 --> 00:29:34.059
He's it I mean he's the mid 20s and that's where

00:29:34.059 --> 00:29:36.180
that's where we were talking about who should

00:29:36.180 --> 00:29:38.759
have that last match, right? And this is where

00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.019
the gun to think to me. Did it make sense? Don't

00:29:41.019 --> 00:29:44.319
is already over as a world champion exactly He

00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.200
don't need this. It did nothing for him besides

00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:54.109
I Understand I'm once again. This is where Our

00:29:54.109 --> 00:29:58.069
heads are the same. Yeah, you see it from a business

00:29:58.069 --> 00:30:01.490
point and we see it from How are we gonna get

00:30:01.490 --> 00:30:05.630
money out of this because people forget the bottom

00:30:05.630 --> 00:30:08.470
line is money Absolutely, you got you have to

00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:12.009
pay your you have to pay your bills and you have

00:30:12.009 --> 00:30:15.049
to keep your stockholders happy When you have

00:30:15.049 --> 00:30:17.650
it when you have a list of names, okay This is

00:30:17.650 --> 00:30:19.130
the list of guys that we're gonna have in this

00:30:19.130 --> 00:30:23.019
tournament who on this list do we see? the guy

00:30:23.019 --> 00:30:26.079
who's gonna finish him you have Carmelo Hayes

00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.019
you had the miss you all these names and you

00:30:28.019 --> 00:30:33.099
go like And you get to Gunther and you go, okay

00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:37.400
Gunther He's been a heavyweight champion already

00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.960
He you know, he the dude is solid He's he built

00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.900
his name in the indies as Walter. He got to this

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:49.220
point Once again, I'm pretty sure this was not

00:30:49.220 --> 00:30:54.180
a triple H decision This is a Stockholders decision

00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:59.000
with TKO and whoever the head you know, who are

00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.200
the heads of the beast? Nick Khan Whoever owns

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:08.019
TKO are the Saudi Arabians and Triple H is there?

00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:11.960
You know Mac Manning Vince Uncle Vince is no

00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.000
longer in there. I'm pretty sure and I'll be

00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.619
and I'm shooting for the hip here now I promise

00:31:19.619 --> 00:31:23.920
you that if uncle Vince was there Uncle Vince

00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.720
would have had two finishes where Cena wins Just

00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:34.059
to shoot him out into the sunset with a win or

00:31:34.059 --> 00:31:39.259
Cena loses but he passes out from the choke and

00:31:39.259 --> 00:31:41.319
Getting beat up like you know hitting on the

00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.099
neck by Gunther that Gunther was doing and getting

00:31:44.099 --> 00:31:47.740
to the point that he just passes out and that's

00:31:47.740 --> 00:31:53.099
it He never submitted, he just passed out. So

00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:57.779
meaning he did his, what's his phrase? Never

00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:00.140
give up. Oh, hustle, loyalty, respect? Oh, the

00:32:00.140 --> 00:32:04.660
never give up. So he went down, loyalty all the

00:32:04.660 --> 00:32:08.000
way down to respect. He never quit, he never

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.359
tapped out, he just passed out. So he held on

00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:15.819
to the end. You basically have to kill him, almost

00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:18.859
kill him, to get him to end the match. That's

00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:21.720
what uncle Vince would have done because that's

00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.160
how much respect he has for John Cena as saying

00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.180
you build me this Company for the last 20 years

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:32.279
you your your your loyalty your hard hustle.

00:32:32.380 --> 00:32:36.460
You're I mean my god you you're you're the number

00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:40.839
one guy for The wish kids was to what make a

00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.599
big donation do how they were over a thousand

00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.680
wishes or more if you know This guy's number

00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.480
one and nobody's even close to him a second.

00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:54.420
So yeah, you've done this, you know in and out

00:32:54.420 --> 00:33:00.299
with no type of commotion no bitching not complaining

00:33:00.299 --> 00:33:05.299
no TMC stories, uh John Cena was in the corner

00:33:05.299 --> 00:33:08.960
drunk or he beat up this chick or He did this

00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.299
to this, you know, there was never anything like

00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:14.859
that about John Cena. Nope Who knows if stuff

00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:17.420
like this will come out now after he retires

00:33:17.420 --> 00:33:20.740
and now you know shit goes out now But he was

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:24.579
the he was your model employee that you build

00:33:24.579 --> 00:33:27.440
around and you had him there I mean, I remember

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.960
he was saying that one of those uh things they

00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.319
did with him that he where he hasn't slept in

00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:36.480
three four days because he's flying from here

00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.059
to the other side of the of the world to this

00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:41.920
other side of the world To then have to go into

00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:46.000
raw to have this match to then do this Do never

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.500
say no You're not gonna find a model employee

00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:53.420
like that anymore No, his body's not gonna break

00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:58.019
down in him. So What what what we just with this

00:33:58.019 --> 00:34:01.980
was the last? Real wrestler from our generation

00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:05.680
now we have to see it now And watch wrestling

00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.380
now for the next 10 15 years to even come close

00:34:09.380 --> 00:34:11.900
and say chef remember the conversation we have

00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:15.800
when when I were back when Sina retired and I

00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.280
was like 10 years later And we revisit this Johnson

00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.420
that retired 10 years later the effect and we

00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:27.079
sit here like no one has taken over Dudley since

00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.679
Or or you know, don't really bought this other

00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.780
company and I'm gonna say one more thing I'm

00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:38.889
I'm pretty sure I feel it in my gut that we will

00:34:38.889 --> 00:34:42.929
see John Cena next year wrestle in WrestleMania

00:34:42.929 --> 00:34:49.349
because he'll be at Saudi Arabia and That money

00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:55.289
talks. I don't care who you are money money brother

00:34:55.289 --> 00:34:59.849
I know that but I'm pretty sure he's gonna be

00:34:59.849 --> 00:35:03.110
there I'll give you that he's in one shape or

00:35:03.110 --> 00:35:07.400
form. He will be there Now now wrestling don't

00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.519
do something like they did with Steve Austin

00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.539
comes out and host WrestleMania from you know,

00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:15.420
he'll do like a hosting thing for ya in Saudi

00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:18.599
Arabia I could see that happening in January

00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.579
next year when they do Royal Rumble from Saudi

00:35:21.579 --> 00:35:24.519
Arabia Like he'll be like the host and he'll

00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.440
definitely be there. We did do a world rumble

00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.679
and that's how well because next year all your

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.420
rumble is Saudi Arabia 2026 and then in 2027

00:35:33.670 --> 00:35:37.769
WrestleMania is gonna be in Saudi Arabia That's

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:43.329
nice. So Imagine you have what the fuck is going

00:35:43.329 --> 00:35:48.590
on out there dude, but since when does sports

00:35:48.590 --> 00:35:51.389
or any business cares of what's going on over

00:35:51.389 --> 00:35:54.710
there is You still got that's true. Look at the

00:35:54.710 --> 00:35:58.110
NFL. Yeah, you see well We stay on our side get

00:35:58.110 --> 00:36:01.570
our guys are girls safe there do the thing and

00:36:01.570 --> 00:36:04.840
then have them come out They've done a bunch

00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.500
of times they've been in war and a man was saying

00:36:08.500 --> 00:36:11.039
them people down there Like no matter what and

00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.440
we know from the from the right from hell plane

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.599
ride that happened a couple of years ago What

00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.420
I can see Johnson in the air as an ambassador

00:36:20.420 --> 00:36:22.800
for and I think that's that's gonna be his thing

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.360
He's gonna be like the ambassador for delivery

00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.960
for the next three to five years because that's

00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:33.489
his contract I can see that but in ring Yeah,

00:36:33.530 --> 00:36:35.969
you never know. I'm just saying not not next

00:36:35.969 --> 00:36:40.190
year for 2026, but maybe for 2027 You don't get

00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:42.090
him in there to throw a couple of punches in

00:36:42.090 --> 00:36:44.710
there You know like the old see that do he do

00:36:44.710 --> 00:36:49.630
the shuffle thing? Yeah to somebody and then

00:36:49.630 --> 00:36:53.389
get out So I can see that happening. But you

00:36:53.389 --> 00:36:57.809
know, it is me I'm just saying I can see it happening.

00:36:58.309 --> 00:37:01.760
And like you said he signed for three years As

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.619
an ambassador, so you're gonna be doing the thing

00:37:03.619 --> 00:37:06.579
that the rock does be doing on the up here and

00:37:06.579 --> 00:37:08.860
there Which is gonna be good and it'd be kind

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:13.719
of cool if he becomes like a on air. Um Character,

00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.219
you know like like working for the league and

00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:21.559
becomes like the I I listen for those guys there

00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.699
for Magnus and peers and you know start making

00:37:25.699 --> 00:37:28.440
matches. Oh, you know something. Yeah, you see

00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.610
this that should happen here here Not every week,

00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:34.610
but just having pop up here and there You know

00:37:34.610 --> 00:37:37.030
and people and then your radius is gonna go up

00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:40.829
because now then the most important thing going

00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:45.690
forward is How are the ratings gonna be a? Affected

00:37:45.690 --> 00:37:49.469
with John Cena no longer being there. Oh, yeah

00:37:49.469 --> 00:37:53.329
Yeah, you're complaining about the rating that

00:37:53.329 --> 00:37:58.889
your last superstar is done is over and it's

00:37:58.889 --> 00:38:01.639
wild So let me give Cena a little more credit.

00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:04.820
And let me give Triple H credit. Triple H was,

00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:06.940
I can't remember what show he was on, one big

00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:09.800
show. And he was saying that he wanted to give

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.659
John Cena a whole episode. Like the last SmackDown

00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:15.260
he was on, he was gonna tailor it all around

00:38:15.260 --> 00:38:18.920
SmackDown. And John Cena, he said, told them,

00:38:19.059 --> 00:38:21.619
no, don't do that. People will get bored and

00:38:21.619 --> 00:38:25.719
get stale. He said, what we should do is have

00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.059
a lot of the young NXT guys, some of the legends.

00:38:29.019 --> 00:38:32.420
We could see how far they alone and they can't

00:38:32.420 --> 00:38:36.219
can they compete on this level? and We've never

00:38:36.219 --> 00:38:39.460
seen that that is a wrestling mind You're right

00:38:39.460 --> 00:38:42.880
your boy the guy to like the bouncy kid a jayvon

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.820
evans jayvon evans yo, dude He's he's getting

00:38:46.820 --> 00:38:50.739
he's getting a lot of shine right now Like the

00:38:50.739 --> 00:38:54.260
only one that was home is gonna be himself If

00:38:54.260 --> 00:38:57.059
he has a good attitude, he doesn't do anything

00:38:57.059 --> 00:39:01.989
stupid doesn't get injured you're gonna see him

00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:05.889
getting pushed big -time because I mean what

00:39:05.889 --> 00:39:09.590
two years the NXT I believe and he's not even

00:39:09.590 --> 00:39:12.869
drafted to NXT and he has more matches that out

00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:15.750
of those any see guys who are on the actual main

00:39:15.750 --> 00:39:19.130
roster now I wanted to ask you about him I know

00:39:19.130 --> 00:39:22.050
we're still talking Cena but on that that night

00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:25.739
of Cena's last match was a whole show right And

00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:27.900
we've seen Jayvon Evans and his tag team partner

00:39:27.900 --> 00:39:34.099
who's the exhibition champion. From TNA, right?

00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:38.519
TNA is getting some shine on that too. So it's

00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.579
a big night and not for nothing to have a TNA

00:39:42.579 --> 00:39:46.219
wrestler who's known as Jayvon Evans, half tag

00:39:46.219 --> 00:39:50.539
team partner. You're on Cena's last match, there's

00:39:50.539 --> 00:39:53.659
a lot of eyes on you. They went against AJ Styles.

00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:59.179
and Dragon Lee Who you're a fan of Dragon Lee.

00:39:59.179 --> 00:40:02.780
Yeah, I think that's and ages thousand, you know

00:40:02.780 --> 00:40:05.599
both of them Absolutely. I know a lot of people

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.079
are taking shots at AJ Styles put a botch on

00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.219
the the rope or whatever Hey, whatever it happens.

00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:13.840
He's been doing this for over 30 years relax.

00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:21.619
Yeah But even with a loss even with a loss I

00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:25.960
seen Jayvon Evans and I'm like The sky is the

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.179
limits for this kid now what I felt about with

00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:35.139
Desmond Xavier Yes, when he was an impact I felt

00:40:35.139 --> 00:40:38.659
AJ Styles, right? Yeah, they didn't utilize them

00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:42.840
whatever that's here or there Watching him in

00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.760
a ring with AJ Styles made me feel like if WWE

00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:52.539
plays this right? We could have the next AJ Styles

00:40:52.539 --> 00:40:55.380
at 20 something years old right now. Yeah, I

00:40:55.380 --> 00:40:58.460
know we don't have an exhibition match, but you

00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:03.039
want to see high -flying speed athleticism I

00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.360
mean the cat the kid is just incredible and I

00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.340
was like To watch it be able to do that on that

00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:12.559
scene a night with that many eyes on him. Yes

00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.280
It cuz that listen, I'm pretty sure that that

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.820
fucking event is gonna have better ratings than

00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:21.579
some pay -per -view. Are you sure? Yes last night

00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.340
I'm waiting for the numbers. I'm pretty sure

00:41:24.340 --> 00:41:29.639
they did millions. I will say at least over five

00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.900
million, at least. I haven't seen the numbers,

00:41:32.139 --> 00:41:34.920
but I'll be shocked if it's under five million.

00:41:35.099 --> 00:41:39.039
Yeah, and Javon Evans gets the opportunity on

00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.599
that night to showcase what he's got and against

00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:48.000
AJ Styles, right? I mean, I think everybody went

00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.590
through NXT except for AJ Styles, right? It just

00:41:51.590 --> 00:41:54.190
starts with the first one that came straight

00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:57.170
right to the thing then after that who's the

00:41:57.170 --> 00:42:00.530
other one? Nobody it was over and then after

00:42:00.530 --> 00:42:03.730
that they started sending everybody to NXT and

00:42:03.730 --> 00:42:08.269
then up to the to the big majors So and then

00:42:08.269 --> 00:42:10.929
edges tells even says that he wish he would have

00:42:10.929 --> 00:42:15.190
been sent to NXT to kind of get Acclimated to

00:42:15.190 --> 00:42:18.389
the WWE thing. Yeah going up, but he came right

00:42:18.389 --> 00:42:21.559
into the Royal Rumble Right there and right from

00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.579
there. He was there, but I want to ask you a

00:42:24.579 --> 00:42:28.639
question about something Leon Slater being the

00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:33.019
the TNA and you know TNA division champion At

00:42:33.019 --> 00:42:37.039
a young age and you've been a veteran of TNA

00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.719
Would you be jealous or would you have any animosity

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.599
towards Leon Slater? Because he's getting this

00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:52.400
much shine in WWE Holding the belt for TNA and

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.360
you've been in TNA for a long time busting your

00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.320
ass and doing this and doing that But then you

00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.860
guys you are being overshadowed over the young

00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:06.159
new car. I Mean what does jealousy play a part

00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.139
in some of this? You know talent because I'm

00:43:10.139 --> 00:43:13.539
pretty sure Somebody's gonna say damn this dude

00:43:13.539 --> 00:43:16.800
is being here for a cup of coffee and this dude

00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.460
was on just in his last match A vet this guy

00:43:20.460 --> 00:43:24.800
is on every couple of paper views already With

00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.739
them, you know with deadline and xt teaming with

00:43:27.739 --> 00:43:30.980
a don't read guy I was attacking back and forth

00:43:30.980 --> 00:43:35.000
from TNA and wrestling in over there and Don't

00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.760
really events. So but I've been here for almost

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.440
ten years busting my ass I'm doing this and I'm

00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.920
not getting the same shine as this kid is so

00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.599
what's going on? let me explain to you what I

00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.590
think because We've said this it's in our if

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:54.050
you want to look at just look for fucking pictures.

00:43:54.050 --> 00:43:58.010
We always Label shit and everything. So just

00:43:58.010 --> 00:44:01.349
say come together. We got we got fucking mad

00:44:01.349 --> 00:44:04.389
fucking content on all that shit So if you want

00:44:04.389 --> 00:44:06.230
to hear more go look for it, it's it's in our

00:44:06.230 --> 00:44:08.909
shit. It's in NXT or impact Whatever. We got

00:44:08.909 --> 00:44:12.570
fucking playlists for everything. So um Let me

00:44:12.570 --> 00:44:15.429
say this like let's just say a moose and Eddie

00:44:15.429 --> 00:44:19.730
Edwards Yeah, somebody like those guys. Okay,

00:44:20.309 --> 00:44:23.090
so yeah, I get it right you've been there mad

00:44:23.090 --> 00:44:30.710
long but Unfortunately if I'm an ex WWE I'm not

00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:34.849
looking into you because your value to me is

00:44:34.849 --> 00:44:38.710
already you're in your 30s mid 30s and I'm not

00:44:38.710 --> 00:44:41.210
looking at you and it's not not because you're

00:44:41.210 --> 00:44:44.090
not talented or because I don't think you've

00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:47.289
cut a promo because I'm trying to bring up the

00:44:47.289 --> 00:44:51.230
next 20 year old kid to be the next guy, right?

00:44:51.690 --> 00:44:56.170
Um, and we've seen it with, uh, Jordana Grace,

00:44:56.269 --> 00:44:59.190
right? They loved her. That's the waters with

00:44:59.190 --> 00:45:02.530
her. Oh shit. You know who else we've seen and

00:45:02.530 --> 00:45:04.690
fucking John Cena's last match on that night?

00:45:05.050 --> 00:45:10.150
Joe Hendry, right? So Joe Henry comes up has

00:45:10.150 --> 00:45:13.289
his little thing and you're like, oh shit. Why?

00:45:13.469 --> 00:45:16.039
Because Joe Hendry is nuclear right now. But

00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.480
Joe Hendry is now a WWE person now. He's a WWE

00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.400
person But even listen, you know what I think

00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.960
sealed the deal. I know I think they like But

00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.400
they seen when they were oh wow Look at the crowd

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.500
in for NXT and that crowd started singing his

00:45:31.500 --> 00:45:35.019
shit. They were like What the fuck was that right?

00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:39.400
Like let's bring them back again Place went crazy.

00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.420
Well, let's bring them in for a fucking Royal

00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:45.260
Rumble. See what happens crowd goes crazy All

00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:48.820
right, I know what we need to do, right? But

00:45:48.820 --> 00:45:51.619
let's say they experimented with Desmond Xavier.

00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:54.579
They didn't feel he fit whatever criteria in

00:45:54.579 --> 00:45:58.480
NXT. See, they've had the rascals in the house.

00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.820
They fit the criteria. Okay, y 'all can go back

00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:04.079
to Impact then. This kid, we see something in

00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.840
him. Now, my god, G -Bot Evans doesn't win a

00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.420
lot. Let's just be honest. How many times have

00:46:10.420 --> 00:46:13.039
you talked NXT and it's always after he loses

00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.730
in something, right? But you don't always have

00:46:16.730 --> 00:46:18.869
to win to be great right like look at a guy like

00:46:18.869 --> 00:46:21.550
Roddy Piper One of the greatest losers I've ever

00:46:21.550 --> 00:46:23.210
seen and people would hear the word losers. Oh,

00:46:23.210 --> 00:46:26.730
he just tried to shit on Roddy Piper No, Roddy

00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:28.769
Piper should never won the big one, but there

00:46:28.769 --> 00:46:31.829
was no one like him in ring. He was a tough guy

00:46:31.829 --> 00:46:37.909
Number one heel doing the whole Hogan era. Yeah,

00:46:38.010 --> 00:46:41.230
Hogan with him is Nuka when he kills Nuka with

00:46:41.230 --> 00:46:44.460
the coconut Jesus that still gives me nine minutes

00:46:44.460 --> 00:46:49.039
Don't coconut and I mean that do knew how to

00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.980
do heel work and that was him and knew how to

00:46:52.980 --> 00:46:58.199
to fire him so I'm sitting back and I'm going

00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.139
a kid for fucking impact wrestling right like

00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:02.820
because you know you send me all the wrestling

00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:07.239
shit and I'm like, oh fuck he's walking out with

00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:11.840
the exhibition bill right like Before they could

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.139
even do this shit like that. Now. Yes. Well now

00:47:14.139 --> 00:47:16.280
what you just said before I think people need

00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.480
to listen to You said if this shit don't hit

00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.519
five million People who watch you'd be surprised

00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.699
and I'm with you on that. I don't fuck up You

00:47:26.699 --> 00:47:31.480
know the number was under Impact wrestling just

00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.800
had at least five million people see that TNA

00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:39.639
belt. Yes Okay, so There's reasons you do things,

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.360
and if they are grooming him to be the next guy

00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:48.420
that comes to NXT, guess what? You still get

00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:51.659
light a day. That's the TNA X Division Champion,

00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.980
and they said that. The TNA X Division Champion,

00:47:56.579 --> 00:47:59.199
so not only does the person just walking about

00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.659
title, they say his name, they say the company,

00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:06.800
and they say what title it is. You get all those

00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.760
eyes on you. Now these, remember the, oh, fuck

00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.400
the Impact fans and fuck the WWE fans. No one's

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.820
doing that no more. You know why? Because we're

00:48:16.820 --> 00:48:20.820
a brotherhood. We are now a unit together. So

00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:24.099
it's no longer F them and F them. No, it's, oh

00:48:24.099 --> 00:48:28.179
shit, we got one over there. So the guys, unfortunately

00:48:28.179 --> 00:48:32.260
like Eddie, obviously Rey Mysterio, Moose, you

00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:36.059
know, a lot of those older guys. Listen. It's

00:48:36.059 --> 00:48:38.980
okay, and I respect the shit out of them. Moose,

00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.219
Eddie Edwards, they're gonna go into the TNA

00:48:41.219 --> 00:48:46.619
Hall of Fame. Not everybody has to go into WWE

00:48:46.619 --> 00:48:49.559
because all the hard work and all those years

00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.000
that you put in for that effort and time, guess

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.159
what? You're gonna get yours. You're gonna have

00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.860
your great matches and enjoy the bringing you

00:48:59.860 --> 00:49:03.360
up because listen, the numbers weren't like that

00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:08.460
until TNA. No, didn't like that partnership has

00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:13.760
really worked and you had a former TNA guy Joe

00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.119
Hendry that was on the biggest stage on that

00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.179
night, you know, and it wasn't a match but he

00:49:19.179 --> 00:49:22.440
was there and then you have your TNA X division

00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:28.139
champion what an amazing match versus a First

00:49:28.139 --> 00:49:31.840
ballot arguably the great and he's gonna go and

00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.179
you'll be in both hold of faves TNA and Belvedere

00:49:35.179 --> 00:49:40.320
Hall of Fame, 100%. One more news, bit of news

00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:47.019
before we wrap this up, but TNA has signed a

00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:52.340
lot of their time that our contests were expired

00:49:52.340 --> 00:49:58.480
about two short -term deals, meaning that shorter

00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:05.039
deals are between three to six months. And they'll

00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.139
be able to work all the locations, you know,

00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:10.679
in these and stuff like that, but also work in

00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.360
TNA for the next couple of months, which I think

00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.320
that's what we see happening in MLW, you know,

00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:22.940
where they sign wrestlers to come in for a couple

00:50:22.940 --> 00:50:27.460
of shows to build, you know, build the rivalries

00:50:27.460 --> 00:50:31.739
and have some good matches every month. That

00:50:31.739 --> 00:50:34.840
they're doing that now. So I Mean, it's gonna

00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.599
be interesting. They didn't mention anybody's

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.139
names of who was signed but it'll be interesting

00:50:41.139 --> 00:50:45.659
to see in the next six months who we don't see

00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:52.059
anymore on TNA and moves over to WWE or Just

00:50:52.059 --> 00:50:56.800
stays in the Andes or goes to AEW so it's gonna

00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.940
depend do as you can see I'm getting darker because

00:51:00.030 --> 00:51:03.570
Outside is just totally just turned dark outside

00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:07.829
Like careful update. You're gonna get hammered.

00:51:07.949 --> 00:51:10.010
Oh You guys are gonna get hit with that super

00:51:10.010 --> 00:51:12.829
cold. Oh, yeah, dude was already cold But it

00:51:12.829 --> 00:51:15.130
was I was like couple of minutes ago and now

00:51:15.130 --> 00:51:19.309
it's completely dark outside I was sitting here

00:51:19.309 --> 00:51:21.289
yesterday. I was talking to my sister same time

00:51:21.289 --> 00:51:24.449
same thing happened, right and we're in the East

00:51:24.449 --> 00:51:33.030
Coast is What time is it? Okay 452 p .m 452 p

00:51:33.030 --> 00:51:36.130
.m, right? We're east coast. He's in new york.

00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:41.349
I'm in florida It is dead dark at the same time

00:51:41.349 --> 00:51:46.349
452 p .m Is dark on your side too now? No, it's

00:51:46.349 --> 00:51:47.809
bright. Look, this is that's not my light. I

00:51:47.809 --> 00:51:51.449
got my light off Yeah, mine was off and now there's

00:51:51.449 --> 00:51:54.090
only just kind of in five minutes. I went from

00:51:54.090 --> 00:51:56.769
light to like That's what i'm saying You barely

00:51:56.769 --> 00:52:02.159
see my light to see my hand. That's crazy We

00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.880
so I want to say shout out to John Cena. Yeah

00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.179
for the last 20 years 25 years of my life You

00:52:09.179 --> 00:52:12.760
entertain me. Yes. I wasn't the biggest fan out

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.440
there of yours, but then me as a human being

00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:20.219
Outside the ring you are the man Bro, you are

00:52:20.219 --> 00:52:24.300
the man and I salute you for all the hard work

00:52:24.300 --> 00:52:27.599
that you did for the last 25 years of wrestling

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:33.179
you are Installed in my memory banks for my rest

00:52:33.179 --> 00:52:36.400
of my life you on the taker Steve Austin the

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:40.519
rock Shawn Michaels and Of course my favorite

00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.119
big player and everybody's from the NWA WCW days

00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:49.159
You are part of my memory now you see and that

00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.579
is the perfect way of ending it because Like

00:52:51.579 --> 00:52:53.760
I said, I remember watching him me and my son

00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:57.659
loved him. You know what I mean? Like a John

00:52:57.659 --> 00:53:00.280
Cena When he did the spinner belt remember him

00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.760
being a big show in new york, right? And it was

00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:05.519
when it was it was the no it wasn't a big show

00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.059
It was uh, jbl. He beat in the in mehattan, right?

00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:13.139
Over the show, I think it was big show or jbl

00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:15.940
one of them he won the title I think was jbl

00:53:15.940 --> 00:53:18.840
jbl and then he turned it into the spinner the

00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.460
stand I've never seen a belt like that people

00:53:21.460 --> 00:53:24.159
try to do things but listen, well, you had you

00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:29.690
had the stone cold belt That was like the rattle

00:53:29.690 --> 00:53:34.090
thing. The smoking skull. Yes. That was kind

00:53:34.090 --> 00:53:37.429
of cool, even though it never hit like the spinner

00:53:37.429 --> 00:53:41.750
belt did. Bro, that spinner belt was everywhere.

00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:45.269
That spinner belt, I think, touched base for

00:53:45.269 --> 00:53:50.269
me in the hip -hop era. John Cena felt hip -hop.

00:53:50.670 --> 00:53:53.230
He was a white dude at that. That's the crazy

00:53:53.230 --> 00:53:57.679
thing at that. he was a white dude and his album

00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.619
went diamond bro yes oh it did with his man bumpy

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:05.199
knuckles or something like that i'll tell you

00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:10.559
what i want some with uh merch yep yeah hustler

00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:16.909
h -u -s -t -l -e -r hustler He had the, I'm a

00:54:16.909 --> 00:54:19.929
bad man, right? Like don't sleep on Cena. I'm

00:54:19.929 --> 00:54:23.210
not saying his shit is fucking Nas or part of

00:54:23.210 --> 00:54:26.889
your DMX caliber. But for a wrestler, his shit

00:54:26.889 --> 00:54:29.550
was straight fire. Yeah, he was. You know what

00:54:29.550 --> 00:54:33.769
I mean? And that album sold a lot. It definitely

00:54:33.769 --> 00:54:37.789
did. Listen, we salute you, we appreciate you.

00:54:39.110 --> 00:54:41.230
Arguably the greatest of all time, all jokes

00:54:41.230 --> 00:54:43.329
aside, you know, like I said, depending on who

00:54:43.329 --> 00:54:46.059
you want, go ahead, slot them in. But the one

00:54:46.059 --> 00:54:48.079
thing I can say about Cena and I hope that it

00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.119
never happens is we never got no bad press We

00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.519
got no kind of bad nothing and the guy took like

00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.179
I don't know. He did more fucking wishes a year

00:54:58.179 --> 00:55:02.239
than there are days so sick kids More times a

00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:04.199
year than there are days and you know, I salute

00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:08.760
that man and we salute that man He did more make

00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:14.360
-a -wishes than actual wrestling matches Definitely

00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.820
Over a thousand each and I think they'll make

00:55:16.820 --> 00:55:19.699
a wish will go over more than the actual matches

00:55:19.699 --> 00:55:22.599
Dude, the guy guys just the epitome of greatness.

00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.460
We love them. We appreciate everything Listen

00:55:27.460 --> 00:55:31.380
2025 is wrapping up. We won't be able to jump

00:55:31.380 --> 00:55:35.239
on here because It's Christmas weekend. It's

00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.960
been nuts. But yes, I'm pretty sure the last

00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:40.599
two weeks of the year we're not gonna be able

00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:43.250
to do anything cuz It's Christmas and New Year's

00:55:43.250 --> 00:55:45.409
so and then we got three kings, but it is what

00:55:45.409 --> 00:55:50.309
it is Family kids. Yes. So for us we are wishing

00:55:50.309 --> 00:55:54.469
you nothing but the best. Happy healthy All that

00:55:54.469 --> 00:55:58.769
shit 2026 we are going to jump up Mlw be doing

00:55:58.769 --> 00:56:02.170
a lot of things. So Happy new year. Merry Christmas

00:56:02.170 --> 00:56:04.670
all that other good shit. God bless. We out of

00:56:04.670 --> 00:56:08.550
here deuces You can't see me but do see
