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What's really good ladies and gentlemen, I have

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obviously one of the baddest women in the game

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right now Honestly Spitfire Nessa because I'm

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the worst with pronouncing people's names and

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I do not want to top up your name That's fine.

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Thank you so much. I'm happy to be here. Thank

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you for the interview So I think the first question

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everybody wants to start with is what got you

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in I've done my homework so I know the answer

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but what got you into martial arts and boxing

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and Because I know there's like a transition

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in there So I feel like it was kind of accidental

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like I was that in college and and I saw a group

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of Guys like boxing at the on the basketball

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courts and now just walking past back and forth

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and then they asked me to join because they saw

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me staring, you know, and then the next then

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they said come the next day and then the next

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day I came and the first time like I threw my

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punch I just felt like like this was what was

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missing in my life and I that's when I Just knew

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I wanted to be champion like that day next day

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that I started boxing I already knew I wanted

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to train and fight and and I ended up like googling

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Like boxing and all that and then this one girl

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Armenian girl came up and she was a champion

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too So I was like what no way like so that was

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kind of like another Inspiration for me else

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and then I just started and I just fell in love

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with it Yeah It's gotta be tough because, and

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I know that your parents try to stick you into

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like other kind of sports and stuff growing up

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and I would agree with them. Now I got two boys

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so it's a little different, but I don't think

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I'd ever be okay with watching my niece get like

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punched or kicked. So I know on their aspect

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that's gotta be tough for them to watch. yeah

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I mean in the beginning it was and they thought

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it was gonna be like a phase for me and they

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tried everything to get me to do other stuff

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like my dad wanted me to play tennis and then

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they just yeah they just wanted me to not they

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didn't want me to box obviously they said my

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dad said and I quote every girl that boxes looks

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like a man and and but um yeah but now I feel

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like he's a fan Yeah, now he's a fan like it's

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cool cuz it's like now he's on board and even

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when I sign my To dip wait, sorry even when I

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signed with to fight bare -knuckle would be BYB

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my dad was um Like he he was the one calming

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my mom down. My mom went hysterical at that point

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My dad told her like don't worry you know she's

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a she's a Spitfire like she's gonna she's gonna

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fight even if she doesn't have any hands she's

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still gonna win and I was like damn that's a

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lot of belief in me which is cool because my

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dad's a little yeah he was he was a crazy fighter

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too like he was a taxi driver at night so like

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he's told me all the Back then when, yeah, when

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there was no Ubers. So there was a lot of times

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where he had to fight and, you know, to protect

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himself and all that. So he, I don't know, I

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guess it's in the blood. I don't know. Yeah.

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So is, is that where you got your nickname from?

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Is your dad? No, I got my nickname from my, uh,

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or, uh, I had a coach named Jesse Lechuga and

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he gave me that nickname. Um, he asked my other

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coach like, Hey, where's Spitfire at? Then that

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day I was pondering if I was gonna like have

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a nickname and that day when I came they're like,

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yes Well, you got a nickname and I was like what

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and they told me what it was not like what does

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that mean? and then they said it was a after

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the World War two plane and also it's somebody

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like kind of like like feisty kind of like gets

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back at you type thing like Yeah, and then I

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did have confirmation on that one time like I

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was we were going doing drills back and forth

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with this one girl She's like damn. You're such

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a spitfire and I was away. How do you know my

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nickname and then? Yeah, and then and then she

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was like that's just somebody you call like you

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like how you're like just hitting back so much

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more and then That's that's how I got my nickname.

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Yeah No, that's awesome. Also, I know when you

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bring a BYB the first Armenian champion of all

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time. That's got to be crazy for you. Yeah, it's

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pretty awesome. Yeah, I was like googling. I'm

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like, am I really the first? No way, you know,

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like, but I'm sure there's been more, you know,

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bare knuckle fighters, but not champions. But

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yeah, and it's pretty awesome. Yeah, I'm glad

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to represent. Yeah. See, that's, that's the one

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thing that I love when people do things, especially

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for the coach alike. when you see people walk

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out with their flags and all that I think that

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a lot of times people forget like the struggle

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and stuff like that so when I seen that you walked

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out with the flag I'm not Armenian but I love

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all coaches I'm just one of those people I cook

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so I love everybody um but I was like yo this

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is so dope because it it shows a sense of power

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and respect and it's letting everybody know like

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you know this is home you know what I'm saying

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so I thought that was super dope Thank you. Yeah,

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I mean I gotta represent, you know, I was born

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in Armenia I came here when I was nine. So I

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I have like my roots are there, you know, I mean

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I now I mean I'm an American now, but you know,

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I'm still learning and I gotta represent because

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like we are Armenia is like a small little country,

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but we're a country of survivors Like we're fighters,

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you know, and there's been so many wars and everything

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and we're still here. So Yeah, I had a I'm not

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gonna say what but she was cool I'll say cuz

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my wife probably ain't gonna care. I've been

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with too long. So I dated this girl in 94 She

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moved from Armenia. Um, her parents are like

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super strict, but I like them They were good

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people but like you could see the toughness from

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the mom cuz where you know I'm from New York

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City. So the mom, you know moms can be tough,

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but there's still a soft side to them and it

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felt like there was a you know, because unless

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you meet somebody from somewhere else, you really

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don't understand. And she felt just as tough

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as the dad. And I was like, man, like this lady

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is really like, she was a, I don't know, she

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walk and she had a powerful presence to her.

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And I was like, is this all your people out there?

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You know, cause I'm new to it. I don't, I don't

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really know from, you know, if you're, if you're

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born here, you're kind of from here. But if you're

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from there and you see that I was like, yo, you

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got some strong parents. She wind up being like

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a a doctor or something like that. Super cool.

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But it was amazing to to learn somebody's culture.

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Now, was it hard coming from Armenia to here?

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Well, it was. Yeah, it was hard to come here

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like in one sense. So basically, yeah, it was

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hard to get here and it was hard to adjust as

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well as a kid. Yeah. Yeah, like I didn't really

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speak the language. I only knew like the colors.

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I was just used to Just having my own like friend

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group and I had to adjust it was kind of like

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a big culture shock For like many, you know immigrants

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who come here. It's kind of like they all know.

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Yeah But yeah, I mean after you exactly yeah

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after you adjust it's like hard to adjust back.

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So yeah Yeah, cuz I mean even like I talk to

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people like especially me I moved from New York

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to a small town in Florida And like I'm used

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to having everything available all, you know,

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24 hours a day and then now not. And it's like

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a culture shock because there's like cows around

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and stuff and it's, it's wild, but you know,

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I like it for what it is. So the hardest part,

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I was like, I got to ask, what's the hardest,

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what's your hardest transition in BYB so far?

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Like, is it the staying on weight clad, like

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staying with the weight at a certain weight or?

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Like the training, the diet, like what's the

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hardest part of it? Well, the hardest part is

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not being able to fight right now. Yeah, it's

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the hardest part has been like not being able

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to do what I love because of injuries. I guess

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the injuries are the hardest part, like breaking

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my hand. That was hard because then. I wasn't

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able to, you know, get back to training right

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away. So I kind of like threw me off. Like I

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just kind of had to lay low for a bit. And that's

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probably been the hardest part about it. It's

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a hard sport as it is with just, I mean, I guess

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so. Well, the first hard part was just fighting

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without the gloves because that's like I was

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used to just like with gloves and then it's like

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just knuckle hand, you know, no glove type thing.

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That was pretty hard. I mean, there's a lot of

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hard things. So that's that makes made the list

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too. Yeah. Yeah. And the ring for you guys, it

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doesn't look big. It feels like it's compact

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for just a straight up like brawl. It's tiny,

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man. That ring is like it's like it's almost

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the same size as my bed. But yeah, it's really

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small. Yeah. it's not that big it looks bigger

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than it is but it's just like yeah i think it's

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they said it's the world's smallest um arena

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well now there's the phone booth and the car

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booth but yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no that's

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that's wild because i was like i watched some

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of it i'm like man these it just feels like it's

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it's built for straight up like one -on -one

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no no movement i'm like these people are just

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I don't know. I've been in a lot of fights in

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my life, and I don't think that I've ever would

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be comfortable in a space like that. I like being

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able to move around freely. And I was like, yo,

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this is insane. So is there anything when you

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first stepped in there? Because I don't think

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there's a training ring for that, right? You

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kind of just go into like a boxing ring, right?

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Yeah. And you know what's funny? I actually Don't

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like to step into the trigon like cuz everybody

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like the deep day before and wains Everybody

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goes and dances around moves around and I always

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wait till like let the day of the fight That's

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when I like to step into the trigon. I don't

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like to go in there and go in there and do what

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like I I trust that it's There's no holes in

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it, you know, I trust not gonna fall off if I

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step on but I don't know I just everybody has

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everybody's different but everybody goes in like

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tries to test it out. I just I like to go in

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right when it's fight time and um Yeah, it's

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it's it's small. But um, like if you know how

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to move your feet, you're gonna be able to move

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I think yeah Now entrances i'm big on entrances,

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I love entrances is they're like do you go into

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each one of your fights and there's like all

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right for this fight I'm gonna come in with this

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music I'm gonna do this or you're just I'm ready

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to just fight and just walk in and do what you

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do yeah that's um so you know it's uh so my first

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fight the one in Dubai I walked out to NF uh

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another level and another level yeah which was

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super cool and it was like I loved that walk

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out that was probably one of the best and then

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the second one was uh my friend Nasi who I knew

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from the when I first started boxing at Glendale

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Community College. We knew each other from the

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box. Wow. But he had become a rapper and I didn't

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know that. And then I was in the hospital for

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some stupid thing that happened. And then, yeah,

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like his mom was one of my nurses and he's like,

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hey, my son's a really cool rapper. This, that

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I was like, what's his Instagram? And I look,

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I'm like, what the heck? That's Angel. And then

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so I reach out to him. Yeah, I was like what

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the heck and so we reach out to him and then

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he told me like he was rapping really well So

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he's like I can make you a ring walk song. I

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was like no way And he did so the sex I came

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out to that song the second fight And then and

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then they played it by mistake. This is the third

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time my other friend D Sims He made me a song

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too. And they were supposed to play that song,

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but then they accidentally played the other one.

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It was weird because I was waiting and I'm like,

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wait, where's the, it's called Rise Up. Yeah,

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so I was like, where's the, and then I had to

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just go along with it. I felt bad because I told

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them I would walk out to that song. So it was

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kind of like. Messing with me as I'm walking

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in to fight Shelby. I'm thinking like, oh my

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god, this is the wrong song I promised him I

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would walk to the song I was feeling so bad and

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I'm thinking about that instead of thinking about

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like, oh dude, this is my walkout But then I

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had to like, you know snap out of it and I have

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to fight so snap out. Yeah Wow, so you got two

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Yeah, I got two songs. You got two personal walkout

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songs. That's crazy Yeah, so far I got two No,

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that's awesome. Like, I think for an artist,

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anyone that can do something for somebody and

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it's personal, especially when you know them,

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it's so cool. Like, because you understand the

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vibe. It's not just, you know, you're picking

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a song that's randomly made and they're walking

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out to it. Exactly. Wow. Yeah. So the one's called

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Spitfire by Nasih and the other one is Rise Up

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by DZim. check it out yeah yeah for sure no i

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i got it because now i'm like oh i gotta really

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pay attention lyrically because you know obviously

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this is what it is so yeah if i see like i said

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i'm a i'm a big food guy right because i'm a

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chef i do what i do um what's a cheat meal that

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you like like what if you gotta have a cheat

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meal what is it oh uh torta or like birria I

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love Mexican food, you know? And I don't know,

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yeah, is that a cheat meal? Or is that, that's

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good. And then I don't know, I love ice cream.

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You're a chef, that's pretty cool. I love food.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, like did it for a long time

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and it got to the point where like I was cooking

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away all the time and not being around the family

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that I kind of got to the point where I'm like,

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I'm not doing both. You know, I got a wife, two

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kids, and I was like, I'll be the stay -at -home

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dad. You work. And she hasn't cooked a meal in

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26 years, so she can't complain. But, um, now

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I thought you were going to say something more

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Armenian or something. I was like, she'll probably

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say something more like, like gato, whatever,

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you know, the sweet bread. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm

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not really into, like, pastries that much. Like,

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I like, I even like, like, ice cream cake instead

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of, like, regular cake. But they, Armenians do

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have really bomb pastries, though. I mean, I

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like it, but I don't really go for it. Like,

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I'm not really, like, that into that. But I do,

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like, I feel like a lot of Armenian food is kind

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of healthy. I mean, I think it is. So, I get

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to eat it. I think it is, like, I love it. Like

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I said, I'm a big fan of... Good, my fault, my

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fault, I apologize. I just gotta avoid the bread,

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you know, like some of the like breads like and

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stuff. But I just love all foods and I'm kind

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of like blessed that way. You know, I live in

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L .A. so I get to have like Armenian food, like

00:16:27.779 --> 00:16:31.259
grandma's cooking. I get to have Mexican food,

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Japanese food, like sushi and stuff. I like like

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ramen. I like all, I like food. Yeah. No, that's

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so cool. Now, if you had like advice to give

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somebody like, I guess that wants to get into

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boxing or MMA or bare knuckle, whatever. Is there

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like something where you go, you know, this is

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the struggle that I went through to try to get

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here? Cause I think everybody just sees it and

00:17:03.620 --> 00:17:05.480
they go, Oh, I want to do it until they actually

00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:09.819
have to put that work in, you know? Yeah, it's

00:17:09.819 --> 00:17:13.119
tough. It's a tough sport. You have to have the

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right people around you. You can't have any distractions,

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especially like fight week. I cut like a lot

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of people off and I just like focus and like

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I have to stay sharp and you have to have the

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right team, work with the right coaches. It's

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harder for girls. You know, I feel like Yeah,

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you got to be resilient. You have to have a strong

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mind You can't give up easily because there's

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gonna be times in your life that like it's not

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gonna look like anything's gonna happen and it's

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gonna feel like It will never happen, but you

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have to keep persisting and going forward and

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that's the main thing just don't give up, you

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know, and If it's like a dream and you have it

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in your heart then go after it with all your

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Might yeah Yeah, and I and I think that like

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when you read a lot of like social media comments

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a lot of it's a lot of dudes that that hate on

00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.079
women fighters and it kind of annoys me because

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If you're like a fight fan and you really watch

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women There's a it's like every single woman

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you watch they're like dogs. There's no like

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a lot of the guys They'll try to like gauge and

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take more time before they really come at each

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other and women just feel like They go full blow

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toward I'm like if you're a fight fan, this is

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what you want to watch like the women are no

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joke Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I mean Girls go

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in with the leg. We got something to prove, you

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know, and I feel like when you have something

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to prove it's just like There's nothing that

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holds you back type thing. Uh, but yeah I feel

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like those those comments like a lot of comments

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and stuff come from people who can't even fight

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like they probably Couldn't defend the fly. Oh,

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so maybe they're just mad that a girl is stronger

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than them or that you know I know that obviously

00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:08.359
like men are stronger than women which is great

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and I hope they all have that protector instinct

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and they'll protect us in a way instead of like

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uh but all those other guys who say that I feel

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like they're just weak and they don't like yeah

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they just they're just they just uh they're mad

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because they're not they can't fight basically

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no it's true because it's the one thing that

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I see like when I recently started covering combat

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sports and I'm like the one thing that annoys

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me is I watch people that talk boxing or whatever

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you know they've never been in a fight and you

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could tell somebody's never had that situation

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where they've ever had to defend themselves or

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or put work in and I'm like you guys have no

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idea the kind of because there's a pressure to

00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:58.039
it I don't care if you're gonna go into a fight

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this some still your nerves today because you

00:20:00.180 --> 00:20:03.680
know you're about to Get into some shit and I'm

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like if you've never been through that You have

00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:08.500
no idea what they're going through and a lot

00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:10.759
of these women like yourself and everyone else

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and you're a champion now There's a bullseye

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that's specifically on your back because you're

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no longer, you know hunting you're the hunts

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So everyone that's coming up next for you they

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they want your head right and It's gotta be tough

00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.539
on your spot where you're like, holy shit, you

00:20:29.539 --> 00:20:32.019
know, I'm the queen, right? Everybody wants my

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crown. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like that. Once

00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.059
you become a champion, every fight is a title

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fight. Yeah, like, everyone wants to be where

00:20:41.099 --> 00:20:44.180
you're at. But, I mean, it takes, like, a lot

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of hard work and behind the scenes stuff that

00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.099
nobody really sees, you know? It's like, they

00:20:51.099 --> 00:20:53.640
only see, like, the glory of it. They don't see

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how many times. Maybe you didn't do well in sparring

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or in day to day of boxing. You went home, maybe

00:21:01.450 --> 00:21:04.869
you cried or something. Maybe you don't believe

00:21:04.869 --> 00:21:07.309
in yourself at days and maybe you think you suck

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most times. But then, you know, come fight night,

00:21:10.329 --> 00:21:13.069
you know, you train your ass off and, you know,

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and nobody could take that away from you. And

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that's why it's like, that's why I like it because

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it's like we made history in just such short

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time. I got fighted the night, oh no, fighted

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the year two times. I got my knives right there.

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And yeah, they gave like, that was cool. That

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was a cool award. They gave us like sick knives

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and stuff. And debut of the year, which was awesome

00:21:40.549 --> 00:21:45.750
with BYB Hall of Fame to do that for us. And

00:21:45.750 --> 00:21:48.670
you're like, what is it? You're like, what, two

00:21:48.670 --> 00:21:50.910
years in I think or a year in for? for a bare

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knuckle? Yeah, I think it's, has it been two

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or three years? Wait, yeah. Has it been two or

00:21:55.230 --> 00:21:58.210
three? I don't know. Um, cause those - I know

00:21:58.210 --> 00:22:01.789
it's, it's a short amount of time. Yeah, I think

00:22:01.789 --> 00:22:04.589
it's been two or three years. I'm not sure. I

00:22:04.589 --> 00:22:08.170
think two years. Wait. Yeah. And you've already

00:22:08.170 --> 00:22:12.049
been awarded at a high level, which is insane,

00:22:12.309 --> 00:22:14.410
right? Getting the knives was, cause when I seen

00:22:14.410 --> 00:22:16.630
that I was like, yo, that's super dope. You know?

00:22:17.309 --> 00:22:21.470
Yeah. Yeah. You want a seal? I do, I do. I was

00:22:21.470 --> 00:22:23.470
gonna ask you, but I didn't know if it was cool.

00:22:23.630 --> 00:22:26.349
Like, I was like... No, yeah, I wanna show you.

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It's freaking awesome. Look, look. So that's

00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:32.890
the... That's the... It says, like, my name and

00:22:32.890 --> 00:22:35.329
everything. And then, look at the... That's sick.

00:22:36.349 --> 00:22:40.089
Wait, wait, wait. Yeah. Woo -hoo! Sick! This

00:22:40.089 --> 00:22:42.650
one says... It looks even crazier, like, close.

00:22:43.170 --> 00:22:48.160
It says, debut series. Wow. So, and it's sharp,

00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.240
like I could even get it sharpened. That's one,

00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.980
and then this one is, that one's really cool,

00:22:57.380 --> 00:23:05.980
look. Oh, wow. Yeah, this one's really cool.

00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:17.990
Look. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, it says um that

00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:20.569
may the road rise to meet you may the wind be

00:23:20.569 --> 00:23:26.890
always at your back Yeah, that's incredible I

00:23:26.890 --> 00:23:29.329
also like like learning like knife fighting and

00:23:29.329 --> 00:23:31.730
all that kind of stuff, too So it's so awesome

00:23:31.730 --> 00:23:35.289
to get this award and that it wasn't just a trophy

00:23:35.289 --> 00:23:38.829
It was an actual fighting knife where you know

00:23:38.829 --> 00:23:45.160
that that that was awesome No, that's That's

00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.660
super awesome. And I mean, it's like, you're

00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:52.099
on this rise. And I think that it's so cool to

00:23:52.099 --> 00:23:57.140
watch people's stories unfolding. As a fan, we

00:23:57.140 --> 00:24:01.559
get to come in and see it as it's going. I guess

00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:05.079
where I started coming into boxing, the Ali's

00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:07.079
and all those guys, they were already retired.

00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.000
I was already transitioning with Tyson. I'm 45.

00:24:11.059 --> 00:24:15.569
I'm an older guy. So I had that come in. So you

00:24:15.569 --> 00:24:17.250
go, all right, I didn't see the beginning, but

00:24:17.250 --> 00:24:19.369
you see the end. It's really easy to like someone

00:24:19.369 --> 00:24:22.049
when they're already on the top. To watch somebody

00:24:22.049 --> 00:24:24.369
come up, I think that's the coolest part about

00:24:24.369 --> 00:24:27.569
watching you guys is we're watching your greatness

00:24:27.569 --> 00:24:32.849
and the story being told. That is true. I never

00:24:32.849 --> 00:24:35.230
thought of it that way, but that's awesome that.

00:24:35.869 --> 00:24:39.190
Thank you for being like a five fan and that's

00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:43.049
awesome and promoting us too. Thank you. Yeah.

00:24:43.069 --> 00:24:50.210
Oh, for sure. Yeah, I always say like I wish

00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:52.789
like Mike Tyson had like a YouTube channel back

00:24:52.789 --> 00:24:57.769
then we could watch his stuff, you know, so But

00:24:57.769 --> 00:25:01.349
yeah, and he's so like Spiritual like the stuff

00:25:01.349 --> 00:25:04.049
he says to people it's it's so deep and you notice

00:25:04.049 --> 00:25:06.910
uh There's such pride in and knowing his fighters

00:25:06.910 --> 00:25:10.430
and stuff and I'm like This is where I feel even

00:25:10.430 --> 00:25:12.829
if you're a small platform like myself or whatever

00:25:13.150 --> 00:25:15.410
If you can get the opportunity to talk to someone

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:19.210
like you or at least just show someone's content,

00:25:19.349 --> 00:25:21.930
it's like the next little girl or something,

00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:24.450
she might come up and go, oh, I want to be her.

00:25:24.509 --> 00:25:26.630
You know what I mean? Look, she's classy. She

00:25:26.630 --> 00:25:29.670
does this. She doesn't get in trouble. And there's

00:25:29.670 --> 00:25:31.609
more opportunity to see you guys. And I think

00:25:31.609 --> 00:25:35.410
that it's such a blessing for us that we do have

00:25:35.410 --> 00:25:39.130
this opportunity to see your guys work. Thank

00:25:39.130 --> 00:25:44.519
you. I appreciate that. So last question I got

00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:51.019
is I know you're With your injury and all but

00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:53.480
like is there somebody that you're looking at

00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.980
where you go? Okay, when I'm ready to go This

00:25:55.980 --> 00:25:58.440
is who I want like is there one person that you

00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:05.740
want to test your your skills with? Not at the

00:26:05.740 --> 00:26:09.359
moment that sorry for the lame answer but no

00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:14.839
not really I just I'm just trying to recover

00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.880
as best as I can and I want to come in stronger

00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.579
than ever, you know, and I can't wait to fight

00:26:20.579 --> 00:26:23.099
again. And yeah, don't sleep on me. I'll be fighting.

00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:28.660
I just don't know exactly when, but I'm training.

00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:32.279
I'm in the gym, even with injuries and all that.

00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:36.259
So yeah, I know there's a lot of people probably

00:26:36.259 --> 00:26:39.859
they want to fight me, but I mean, it will all.

00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:42.420
work out like we don't really like nobody knows

00:26:42.420 --> 00:26:45.319
the future nobody knows if like just to be here

00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.440
right now is a gift like we don't know what's

00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.099
gonna happen tomorrow you know and so it's like

00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:53.940
it's easy to like plan things ahead but i mean

00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:56.539
yeah we're only here for like a short amount

00:26:56.539 --> 00:26:59.380
of time and we're not like i'm not like we're

00:26:59.380 --> 00:27:01.700
not god we don't know what's gonna happen so

00:27:01.700 --> 00:27:04.839
it's not in my hands i wish i knew the future

00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:09.500
and stuff but no so But um, yeah, just don't

00:27:09.500 --> 00:27:11.779
sleep on me. I'm gonna fight. I just don't know

00:27:11.779 --> 00:27:15.980
when Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So listen, I want

00:27:15.980 --> 00:27:17.740
to thank you for your time because like I said,

00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:20.240
I'm a fan of what you do Can't wait for you to

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.279
get better beat the next chick up. That's what's

00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.299
gonna happen I'll tell a little future for them.

00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:26.299
You're gonna win the next fight. You're up to

00:27:26.299 --> 00:27:28.259
it And you know, it's gonna be a quick work.

00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:30.920
I don't know about my little crystal bullshit,

00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.480
but um If is there anything you want to plug

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.559
before you get out of here? No, thank you so

00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:39.440
much for the interview. It was awesome chatting

00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.920
with you. You're an awesome person and I like

00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:47.140
your accents like New York I'm trying to be on

00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:52.259
my country thing But I don't know it's tough

00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:56.220
So ladies and gentlemen for myself the Spitfire

00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:58.960
we out of here deuces