I'm walking different talking different loved ones see the difference. I'm gonna talk it isn't this thing
I guess I'm seeing two colors
Staling is the suckers the poor to Jerry Heller's in the busters
Salute the good fellas in the hustlers
Yo, that's my shit right there. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I was coming in here
I didn't know what my vibe was gonna be that set my vibe. It's Monday. Listen, we're going a little early
We'll have this out way earlier than usual
Oh
Muffins Martinez to my left ship the matrix to the right
We had a difference of opinion. I know you see the graphic
You're gonna have to wait before we get into the juicy stuff
MLW just had reloaded. We did the live go check that out. We do all lives a lot of the time
It's meant more to like just hang out talk some ish have some fun while we watch wrestling
Um, so it is what it is. I thought it was a average show at best, right? Like
You did have some cool stuff in it though, right? Like and I know you want to talk about it and go in
but what I will say is
Now there's two luchador dudes that I'm buying into hopefully we see more of them
One of the storylines we know we're now we're gonna definitely see the kid a lot more
So my brother talked to me about MLW
Reloaded since you take over
Yeah, man, so reloading happened this past Saturday at 10 o'clock again on YouTube and to sports
Too late. Yeah. What was a Saturday night? So he was all right
and um
Just think that stood out of my head was the match between neon
Which is I know you were really high on
And who was you component?
I
50 60 year old dude I
Believe oh not virus right with virus virus. Yes virus. So neon came out, you know, then
At least two moves that I've never seen before being done. I thought I you know, I'm impressed you were more impressed with his mask
The anything else I still think the mask didn't match the outfit, but that's not here. No there
I know that
Mystical I pushed him later on in the back
About you know, how impressed he's in he's been with him seeing him in Mexico
And then that night at the show and how hopefully they'll be able to
Tag together in the future and go after MLW gold
Which means we might see another double champion again in the future or hopefully mystical will finally drop his belt
And how somebody don't give it a shot and stuff though. We might see a new tag team moving forward
I know that was one of the matches that we were looking forward that actually paid off
my match that I was looking forward to was a
Alejandra Quintanilla versus
Persephone yeah, I finally said it right. Oh
Yeah, Persephone even though I can say here Persephone before or Persephone and um
We were looking forward to the match except Alejandra was looked a little bit timid or
A little bit like second behind on some of the moves or whatever
So she she didn't look as crisp as I've seen her in RCW
You know very very thin of wrestling down in Dallas. So I kind of disappointed me on that one. I don't know if Persephone
either
Hit the finishing maneuver the way she wanted to or she slipped on the top rope and
Hit it with a headbutt on the stomach. I don't know but it looked kind of weird how he came out with
What and whatever it was?
Whatever she pulled it off because she got to hear you know, she got to hit a rear grill in the stomach
So I'm hoping that that's her finishing maneuver, you know headbutt to the stomach or whatever. But yeah, they looked that pretty
I
Know there was one that we really liked
And that was the the pirate who looked like a
Institutioner pirate
Was it dark Panther, right? Yeah dark. Yeah dark Panther. And who he went up against?
Oh
Snitch oh
Akamura
But we really enjoyed that matched that match and not because I was a moribund because of
Dark Panther and what he was able to do in that match. So hopefully we said that hopefully
They'll bring them back again in the future hoping the next taping or in the one coming up in April
You know, whenever they happen, but we were really high on him when we saw him
Um, other than that, you know, the mystical match in the main event business kind of knitted carnival
Was okay. I mean nothing special
I
Mean I
Don't want to crap on the on the show, but it wasn't on paper. It looked good
There were some bangers that surprised me other matches that I thought was gonna be better weren't
so
But at least
Next show super fight six on paper is the game to look good
Yeah, before every match with a day has set up
They look good and then they just mentioned today
Mascara Dorado and mystical up against
Steady and another do what a cool ass mask
Yeah, we know if you got a cool ass mask you could rest of your ass off
We know that already so that's gonna be a bar burner next time. So, you know, that's a Saturday
Hopefully is not a 10 at night time because it's gonna be live from Atlanta
So I'm hoping that is the how would I eat and not a 10 o'clock because this is gonna be a live one from Atlanta, Georgia
so
But what will be your rating for this show chef? I
Give it a six. I'm gonna get a chance before we yeah before we get six out of ten before we go into that
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But um, well, I will say I'll give it a four point five out of ten
Okay, yeah, it was kind of underwhelming for me. I
Mean, all right, so I gave it a high mark
Because I did enjoy a high for what I thought it was
Minoru Suzuki which you had taken a leak at that point
So I like that match. I like the opening to it. I like the aggressiveness. I like him yoping up, you know
Contruding the flag again. I thought that was cool. Um, the Persephone match even though the one girl felt a little like it
I don't want to say deer in headlights, but it definitely looked like
It was a bigger stage than what she was used to and and I give her credit because to me it looked like she was trying to make sure that
She was super safe in the ring instead of just do what she normally does
So she kept a clean, you know clean safe match
Kudos to her Persephone looked great. Um, the ending like I like you said was a little off of
Black Panther
We've seen him. I think in two or three matches now. We've been impressed with the two or three matches
So we really like him. We hope he comes back
Who else was there the mystical match like you said it's
We're already at a point where to me
Mystico has became our Eddie Edwards. Yes, it's always the same match, right?
Like there's nothing new to mystical because you're not giving him an opportunity
To at least alter his match a little bit by doing the same CMLL matches, right?
You're gonna keep getting the same thing. It might be a little stronger style might be a little faster
But it's all automatically. It's gonna be the same kind of match. Um, I'm tired of the double champions
Hopefully he loses that belt. I would be cool if
They showed the match because I know that Akamura is big in CMLL if him and
The bread guy, what's the bread guy's name? Kojima?
If if Kojima and Akamura had that match in CMLL and we got to watch that and they like, you know
Put it in on a on a paper
I think that'd be dope if they went the belts over there and you showed the crossover or whatever. Yeah, but
At this point, I'm kind of like whatever. We had the Durant thing
Unfortunately, we already know the baby daddy is back. So don't forget his name. They're auto off
auto
Of gold. Yeah, because the other gold as take a boom as yeah, and we saw that they
Finally gave in they are given into the kid that the demands they had a big briefcase full of money. I
Was expecting more for that show and to further the storyline
We just have that one thing and that was it
I was expecting like a trade at the end of the show see the money for the guy and it didn't happen
This is where I'm kind of
Right, this is where I don't like wrestling at times, right? Like if you're gonna go into the underground world of societies and shit like that, right?
And and you want to make it this crazy? Look, I mean you kidnap a kid, right? Like an infant at that
You leave it in the room. They go get it. Baby's fine. Cool
but the baby daddy should have been in the back of a car or
You know, you should have had to go somewhere and they meet somebody doesn't even have to be the main person who's behind this
And they give them the briefcase and they're like go to the what x y z and the person will be there with a factory if it's a
Whatever sitting on a chair and he tied up but you get a back the whole here's like what I don't know
50,000 100,000 whatever it was in a briefcase here that we want our guy back like
I guess it was kind of lackluster right like you when you do cool shit
You got to have it ill finish. It's kind of like for anyone that ever played basketball
You have a million dollar movement at three cents and finish that mean just shit wasn't all that right the lead up to it
You go oh and then you're like, oh man, he missed the shot or the dunk or whatever it takes everything away from it
Yeah, that's definitely what happened. So yeah, so now we'll sit down for February 8th, which I'm pretty
Pretty weeks I believe Saturday night. Like I said, hopefully is I ain't a clock maybe nine and not a 10
The 10 o'clock shit on Saturdays is messing with my sports watching stuff
You know, I could be watching doing stuff with my new my nieces or whatever
You know Saturday night they come over and they go crazy. We start watching they had me watching some crazy cartoon movie or something
Which I you know overly I hate but inside I'm going oh it's a cartoon movie, yeah
But I can't let them know that I'm excited
Like I like oh god another cartoon movie
Even though inside my little 12 year old girl is like yeah a cartoon movie, yeah
With my favorite girls, woohoo
You know what I mean, I don't like you guys go away god I know they're cartoon movies
You gotta stop right you gotta stop
You gotta start it man so yeah
But I know so that's all M or W thing I know Chep you have something that you really want to dig into regarding which is the
Oh the post which is Triple H
Listen so
So word on the street
The word on the streets is that
WWE really wants to buy TNA right like
And hear me out
We keep saying how TNA has been moving up and this is before now we had even said
That TNA if it keeps going in the right direction become can become the number two over eight W because
You've seen the decline of buying people in seats right there they want to go to smaller venues
Because it's not making sense financially for a bigger venue with less people
Big scroll venue
AEW
Yep so AEWs have it it's own little issues so right now where AEW was so light years ahead of anything underneath them
TNA's buzz and what they've been doing ever since the whole NXT thing has been slowly climbing this ladder
Now I'm not saying TNA and AEW are here and here but TNA is making some noise let's just be honest right like they're making noise
NXT people are in the crowds we heard at the last paper view where they're chanting NXT NXT
They're going crazy because their people are there unlike the last few paper views where NXT people have been coming in
And it's been kind of crickets because there was an impact crowd
The more NXT guys are coming in regularly the more NXT fans or WWE fans are coming in to watch their talent
And that's making impact look better because they're selling more tickets and they're getting a bigger rise and you're growing your fan base
So I do think that even with the NXT TNA thing eventually that will hit its ceiling because you can only go but so far
If WWE goes you know what I love this and if we take TNA we buy it out
I'm not saying you're gonna sit there and go alright put Hunter and control over there
They show on Michaels and NXT and whoever does WWE Raw and SmackDown they do them right
If that's the case that's super dope because we all know Triple H so it had to make an amazing product
And if you give him a TNA roster and all of a sudden he's the face of TNA and he's the one coming out and booking and doing all this shit
TNA goes to another level because there is no ceiling because WWE now owns them
This isn't the WCW thing where they were competition and they bought them to kill them
This is buying them and making them part of what you do
It also takes TNA puts them in a position where you go our second company which is TNA which is kind of like ROH for AEW
But TNA is bigger than ROH
If you give them a legit platform because now you're not a TNA product even though the name is TNA
It's sided with WWE
WWE starts calling around networks hey you want wrestling we got TNA
It's our product
You put it on I'm not saying Netflix but whatever WWE makes that phone call to your office you're picking up
That's how it works
TNA can get on a massive platform all of a sudden there's more revenue coming in
They're part of the universe all of a sudden we see it there and go holy shit
TNA comes into the number two position
WWE now has the monopoly because they hold the top two shows
That's just to me the top two companies I shouldn't say shows because NXT is doing its thing
The top two promotions because NXT's part of WWE even though TNA at that point would be
But TNA with WWE TNA leaf frogs AEW and now all of a sudden does AEW become Impact Wrestling
I'm not going to use the word TNA I'm going to say Impact Wrestling because when they started having the problems
They weren't selling venues just can AEW handle that because there's a massive ego issue there
And we all know what's Tony Khan but I do think if WWE does the smart thing buys it
Impact TNA sells TNA in a year or two can leaf frog AEW
Now you were saying how TNA AEW are right here now
So TNA AEW
They're close
They're close now because now AEW went from here and went down into the venues
So now they're using the same thing that TNA is using
The only difference between TNA AEW is the deep pockets of Cousin Tony
That's it
Cousin TK has the deep pockets and all the stuff now is on HBO Max
And they have the stuff from TNT and TBS
So yes, so this is the reason why it's slightly over TNA
Now you mentioned about WWE buying TNA if that happens in the future
Right there and then NXT becomes TNA
And TNA becomes NXT
Because what happens now is you take a lot of the guys younger talent
Put them NXT
The veterans you move them up to either Smackdown or Raw
Right there you have the flux of now new storylines, new fuses
Eddie Edwards definitely going to go up to the top
Eric Young definitely going to go up to the top
And some other wrestlers will definitely go up to the top
You have the younger wrestlers
They'll be in NXT, TNA or whatever
Now they go from obsolete access TV to a P-CAD network now
Because now Smackdown is still shown on P-CAD
So now like you said, hey, we're shopping NXT
TNA now is on CW
Hey, how long is that contract for?
Like here?
I don't know how long the contract is
But now you start saying it's on CW right now
But it's going to go to P-CAD at this time
Now everybody's going to be able to see TNA
Because it's going to be found on a bigger app
That's under the WWE umbrella
Right there and then TNA NXT
It's got the Deep Pockets
It's like Cousin Tony
Because now you have TKO building that bridge here now
Now you still have, you have no more tapings anymore
You have your live show on either Tuesday or Thursday
And you make it out of one location
Maybe you're Florida, like they do now full sales
Or somewhere else where it's bigger
And you keep it there and then once a month or once every two months
When they have that PLE, they'll go out into a bigger venue
Okay, now let's go to Atlanta
Let's go to Chicago, let's go here
And you have a bigger venue
And then you bring some superstars from the top to come down
Oh, we're going to host this, do that
Now you see the eyes like you're saying
Right now TNA is benefiting from the WWE eyes coming in
Because they were in Dallas and they were sold out
But I'm pretty sure and let's be honest
Four, five thousand fans were not all TNA fans
No, hell no, hell no
I mean let's call it, let's call it, I mean let's call it a buck a buck
They were not all TNA fans
But majority of them are
I will say that
Why we could say that
Listen, to be fair I'll do a 75-25
TNA and 25
Yeah, 25 NXT, yeah, or WWE, yeah
So we'll say 75-25
Mix, and we know it was bucked
And we know they were blessed to have Korra J came out
That night on the paper view
Korra J once again came out on the tapings
And once again she's going to be there on the tapings
Even wrestling on the tapings that they taped down
The following night on Friday for the next three weeks
So here's the drawback now
Of having the live paper view
The big, big buzz
And you're having your first live show in almost eight years
With Manga's buzz and now you're going back to tapings again now
For the next three weeks
Till the next live show that's going to be down in
Whenever it's going to be, oh what is it from?
It's in Florida, I forgot what they already announced it to
Oh you said the Pexo?
Yeah, no boy, they're going in Florida
And they announced the venue, I'm just caring about the venue was in Florida
But they're having their...
It was in Perkel, right?
I can't remember now, I don't remember
But on the 20th or whatever that third Thursday is in February
There's going to be a live show from Florida
So Friday from Dallas, the tapings for the next three weeks
They have Korra J, they have Fraxium
They have Trevor Lee
Oh not Trevor, I'm sorry, Trevor Lee, Jesus
Wesley and his new team
The two big dudes now that he's with now
So they are all part of the tapings coming up
In some shape, form or way for the next three weeks
For now, this is what hurts TNA for how that is now
People might not know or people know that it's tapings
They might not, but if they're new
They might not, if they're WWE fans that coming in to see
They might not know that this is tapings
But they'll find out for the next three weeks is a tape show for three weeks
And before the next live show, again on a Thursday
Followed by another set of tapings
Or maybe a peer-review, whatever comes in February
But whatever rub the universe is giving them is working
But the tapings is going to hurt them
So you get some and you take some
So now they have the live show on Thursday
Now we gotta see what happens tomorrow night on the live show of WWE
So they continue storylines coming over
Who's Tuesday and then Thursday will be taped
Well now right there, boop, just kinda cuss it down the middle
Like aw man, I'm a man from now
Can they hold it for the next three weeks?
We gotta have baby steps, right?
The partnerships are to slow
But they've had guys come over, they had girls come over
Now we're seeing a lot more come into TNA
So there's a lot of things that are going to play
I like the fact they're taking their time
And they're making sure that they're doing everything right
Like I do appreciate everything they're doing
I don't think the tapings is the best thing obviously
We hate tapings, but to be honest with you
Do what you do, do whatever you feel is the way it's gonna be right
But if, so here's where the only thing I wanted to disagree with you
If WWE buys TNA, I don't want TNA to not be TNA
Right, like I do not want it to be NXT N.A. because
I'm not acting like listen, we all know real Hall of Fame's don't exist in wrestling
Right, like it does not
Because you tell me where the Hall of Fame is for wrestling
Stanford, can you really get it?
That feeling don't exist no more, it's an apartment complex
Oh really? Oh shit, what about the WWE headquarters in an apartment complex?
Oh really?
I see it on Instagram like three days ago
Wow, yeah
It's an apartment complex?
It's an apartment complex
Wow, I did not know that
Bro, I see it
What the hell they moved to now?
I don't even know, but put the
I guess WWE headquarters apartment complex, somebody sent it to me
And I was like, oh shit, did not know that right?
So that's square building that we've seen in years?
No, that's not WWE no more according to what I've been said
But what I will say is if you want to go to the base for Hall of Fame
For the NFL Hall of Fame or the NHL or NBA
Those are legit places where you have Hall of Fame plus and everything
A TNA Hall of Fame is where?
Right, I don't know
Our way to Hall of Fame, where?
Don't know, MLW, NWA, don't know
Give me a real Hall of Fame and we'll talk
But TNA's legacy is way too important to the business I think
From what it meant when it first came into where it is now
That I still, I would rather it become their WCW
And NXT stays for developmental however you're going to do it
And this is its own show, so if you have Monday Night Raw
And then what SmackDown is Friday, right?
Yes
Okay, it's just SmackDown Friday
NXT's Tuesday, give me back to, give me Impact on Thursday
Give me TNA back on Thursdays
And then you have Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday
And then you have Saturday main event
I don't see it though
How? It's the perfect marriage
Yeah, but why would they have, you bring somebody to absorb it
Or to put it together with something else
You'd be good with TNA taking over NXT and no longer be NXT?
Well not because they'll change the name to something else
So you want NXT and A?
Dude, NXT and A sounds good to me
The guys like Loose and Eddie Edwards and all those guys are too good to be at that point
But that's why those, you know, the better ones will get pushed up to SmackDown or Raw
And do what? Like, all right, here we go
There's but so much, there's but so much time that you can give somebody
And maybe Moose, right? Or Josh Alexander or Santana
Those are the three guys that I can see compete in either or on both
Eddie Edwards, he's not charismatic enough to do it
Matt and Jeff Hardy, who the fuck cares?
Matt and Jeff Hardy, even though we don't care about them, they still bring a buzz
People still love them
Bro, if you watched the show on Thursday, that place was going crazy for those guys
Of course, of course
And I believe that it will take those guys back in a second
You know why? Because a lot of these fans are morons
Let's just be honest with you, because the people are gonna pop for fucking Ric Flair
Or a Hulk Hogan, right? Like these fucking dinosaurs, enough, enough
Like you don't need these guys
They're in their 40s, they're not in their 50s or 60s
You have a Matt and Jeff have been doing this for over 30 years
I know that, and they're in their 40s
And they look, they look raw
Well, and they still can go, I mean, they will take those guys in a heartbeat
And put them against the Mortal City machine guns or DIY and have views against those guys like that
They'll bring money
But then you're gonna take them crazy
But here's my problem, man, fuck the people, here's my problem, is you're gonna bring these old dinosaurs in
And then they're gonna come and take a spot from a young upcoming tag team that we should be seeing for the next 20 or 30 years
And we know for a fact that we really is horrible with tag teams
You've seen that
Absolutely
They're horrible
But don't waste, don't waste your youth on dinosaurs
All I'm saying is I wouldn't, I can not fathom TKO having another show on the week to have Monday Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday
And stand alone, TNA by itself
They've already put them together with NXT
Have the young, whoever's young there, keep an NXT with the feud
And then you move the veterans up to the top
And then you have a good Tuesday night or Thursday night they can move it of TNA and NXT mixture
And then you can have those PLEs every, you know, instead of being every three months
You can have them every two months because the eight disorders have them every two months
On a giant venue, but they'll find a nice 5,000, 6,000, you know, seed venue and make that money
The bottom line is making that money
If you're gonna do that, it's gotta be once a month
If it's becoming NXT and A, it's gotta be once a month
And not for nothing, one time a year, it's gotta be in the impact zone
Eh?
I got no
In Orlando?
Yeah
Too small
Bro, it's one year
Yeah, how about you have a
Which one was the big stage? Was it 19 or 21?
19, 19 was the bigger one
21 was, 21 looked bigger, but 19 was bigger
21 was the last one they had
Yeah
Yeah, so 19, yeah 19 will work
Bro, you do a
The reason they do every three months is because they do a raw one every three months
They smack down one every three months, so they alternate
One month is raw, one month is smack down
One month is both, and then they have NXT one separate
On the day before or the day after
Yeah, but TNA is a major, NXT is developmental
Well, if they get bought, it will not be a major anymore, I'll tell you that right now
We're gonna agree to disagree because TNA will not be absorbed like that
Yeah, I do not see them buying it and then becoming a major on its own, I doubt it
It's the same thing with AEW or the deal with ROH
They're trying to keep a different identity in AEW
And you gotta pay $10 a month to watch ROH stuff and half of the shit go making sense
Because there's no direction there
Because you only have one person, unfortunately, one person's ego is destroying AEW, which is TK
Yeah
But I mean, you know something, I'll take it back, I'll take it back because I just thought of something
Like you said, if they put Shawn Michaels in charge of it or somebody else with the same IQ
Then he and I could see it, somebody throws worthy because right now Shawn Michaels, I think is the guy from NXT
Is the one who's in charge
So you gotta put somebody else that you trust in the TNA you want and say, okay
Triple H
Who?
Triple H
Well, no, triple H is over the scene, SmackDown and Raw
So then what about William Regal?
Right, right there
That's all the issue there
You put Regal on NXT and you put Shawn Michaels in TNA for now, you know, just to start off the ship
And then once, you know, six months a year from now, when everything they need to switch on
But yeah, you know, that body work, I just see that
I just see that if they do it that way then yes
See, I'm telling you, and if any TNA fan see this, don't get your fucking butt hurt and all that shit
Like, listen, understand your product, right? Because you're the same people who hated on WWE, bugged WWE
And then now that they're doing so much better, y'all love WWE because it's working
If you're gonna hate something, yo, stay consistent, right? Stay consistent
Not when it just helps what you like
And we've been saying this for years, don't be a promotion fan, be a fan of the game
You know what I mean? A promotion is just a name, that's all it is to it, it's just a name
The talent make the shows what they are, so it is what it is, but what I will say is listen
TNA is in a really good position, I like what they're doing
NXT has been fucking carrying them, because let's be honest, ever since NXT came into the fold
TNA has been on some next level trajectory shit
So, enjoy what y'all got, because this is looking dope and we know that the partnership was just signed over for a few more years or whatever it is
So there's a lot of positives going forward messing with WWE
And now I'm going to throw a curveball into this conversation, because then the rumor mill, another rumor that came out
That was debunked and maybe was not debunked about Tony Khan actually trying to buy TNA before Scott DeMore was relieved of his job
So, chef, what do you think or what do you make of that specific rumor if it was true, if it's not
And what will happen if TK would actually would have been able to purchase TNA
The same way how you see WWE buying it, what do you think what would have happened or what you think TK would do with TNA
If the big F, so right now it's not going to happen, because of the partnership with WWE
At that time, there was rumors, maybe not, maybe somebody made up the rumors and the rumor just took off by a self, like a baby trying to figure out how to walk
And you know, X
Let me talk to the goofy fans first, right, because the goofy fans are the ones that I hate the most
For all you goofies, when they heard about this partnership with AEW, Yawaspro AEW, AEW, this AEW, that good TNA is becoming the shit, da da da
Let me explain something to you, that partnership never was a partnership, right
Tony Khan literally whipped his joint out, pissed all over your company and Impact allowed it
Right, like, so I have no respect for the brass at that point, because you can't allow another man to come in, piss all over your floors and do nothing about it
He came into Impact, shitted on it, goofed on it as much as he could, never had any time to come over when it became free agency wanted him
So they were never good enough to be on AEW, but when they were free agency started signing everyone
So let's just make sense of that, because you never seen your girl Deanna Parazu, the fucking women's champ forever and had ill matches with Jordan and Grace
And who's the girl who she's there now, Black girl, Mad talented
Oh, Kiara Hogan?
Kiara Hogan, right, because Kiara Hogan was doing her thing, and now she's there, Kiara Hogan was there
And the point there was Kiara Hogan never did one, even a previous in AEW, and as soon as her thing came up, whoop, she was there in double feature, one in tape TNA and one in live Friday night on one of those shows they had
And she was there wrestling, that was crazy, seeing stuff like that happen
So I mean she's super talented, right, but it goes to show you that he had no respect for the company, he was gonna get his feet, get in there, see who he wanted, piled for them, right, he poached them, and then said, fucking I'm out, right, fuck you were done
Where's partnership?
He shit it on y'all, and I say yeah, because a lot of y'all fans don't know how to separate being a fan, and thinking you're part of this company, so he destroyed it, and if he would have sat back and bought this, there'd be no TNA at this point
TNA would be a library under AEW for an app or whatever they're gonna do, and that's all TNA would be, a bunch of your favorite wrestlers will be looking for work
Because he's not gonna sign everybody, because his interest is anybody from WWE, and a few younger people that he liked over there, those people he already signed
Right, like, so a lot of your people would be signed elsewhere, or whatever, because his whole attraction would have been, I own the library, I have that, because now I have something to compete with against WWE because we don't have a library
$10 for fucking Ring of Honor is ridiculous, I wouldn't listen, I don't watch Ring of Honor when it was free, I've never been a Ring of Honor fan, I don't, huh?
No, no, go ahead, go ahead
Yeah, no, I would say I've never been a fan of him, that takes nothing away from amazing acts that have been there, right, like Moose was there, came to Impact
The Briscoe is one of the greatest tag teams of all time, like, I love Kingston, I've always been a Kingston fan, he's from there, Homicides from there, like, there's a lot of guys, Samoa Joe was from there, there's a lot of dudes that have came over that were part of that that are sore or something
Yeah, I mean, you keep going down a crazy list, I just never liked Ring of Honor, if I didn't watch it for free, I'm not watching it for $10
Especially now when there's nothing to watch, it's all crap, a lot of the matches are, you know, squash matches, there's no direction, like I said, because TK owns, you know, I don't know what the hell they're waiting for, it's just matches thrown together, and then they have the pay-per-views every couple of months, and the matches are just done, like, on the last two weeks of whenever it's supposed to happen
And no one knows what's going on there, but yeah
Yeah, so, I mean, if you were excited about it, Tony Khan would have fucking annihilated it, made it for a library and say, look, we have content, right, like, come to our AEW app or dot com or whatever, it's this X month for a month, and you have the entire library of TNA from, you know, beer, money, and all those beautiful people
Yeah, so my next question is a two-part question, because one is a rumor and then one is true, the first rumor, did you think W.B.B. or did the partnership with TNA multi-year because of AEW, not wanting AEW to be on TV or trying to buy or poach people from TNA,
you think that's one of the main reasons that we did the partnership with TNA?
No, I think that whoever TKO is, I know the Rockets credit for it, right, like, but there's a lot of people behind TKO, I think, TKO is also people that bought UFC, so they have a lot of money in, you know, buying sports shit like that, so.
No, no, exactly, but if I mean, hear me out because I think Triple H is such a great wrestling mind, Sean Michaels is a great wrestling mind, I think the two of them at some point when Vince kind of got the, you know, you got to be out of the board because of XYZ.
Yeah, the second time.
I think it was an open opportunity to say, yo, let's go do something that no one has ever done before, especially us, right, and TNA is not a threat. They're never going to be a threat to WWE.
AEW has never been a threat to WWE. WCW had a quick stint, and believe it or not, when people think the Monday Night Wars was over way before way faster than you think, right.
So there's no real threats to WWE, they're the Mecca, there's no anything, but when you have an opportunity to do something that no one has ever done before, I think they took the opportunity, they played with it at first because you've seen, what was it, Gail Kim was the first one that came over for a rumble?
No, no, it was Magnus' wife, what's her name?
Mickey James.
It wasn't like she came out just Mickey James.
Having the knockouts belt or whatever it's called, I don't know if it's still called a knockout belt, that's a statement because we've never seen a crossover, especially a title on any company that's not belong to WWE.
Yes.
And Mickey James coming in with the Royal Rumble was like, holy shit, right, she's wearing the women's belt.
Also, when that happened, also one of her pigs in the farm was flying over.
You know what I'm saying, like, and I think at that point, the buzz around social media, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, you know, Twitch, whatever else, the fans coming so crazy, everyone kept saying, Mickey James came with a knockout belt,
TNA knockout or in fact, personally knockout, Mickey James, the belt, Mickey James, the belt. I think they stepped back and was like, I think we might have hit on something here, right?
Like, maybe we got to double down on this. And then all of a sudden you see Jordan and Grace, right? You're like, holy shit.
So they played with it for a little while and they said, listen, this, this might be special. And look what we're talking about now, right?
Like, look at the kind of numbers that TNA is doing. Look at the excitement when Joe Hendry comes out, right?
Like, let's be honest, of all the people who have came over to NXT, Joe Hendry's entrance has been the littlest entrance out of anyone.
He comes out that arena selling signature.
Say his name and he appears. I believe in Joe Hendry. I believe in Joe Hendry.
Every time I do, I'll be popping.
Bro, but that's, but this is what I'm saying with the excitement.
And I wasn't, and you know me, I wasn't a, you mucked Joe Hendry fan before that. So, you know, regardless of what people feel or whatever,
WWE is smart. They understand wrestling interest, right? And if fans are going to go crazy for it, let's dive into it.
Like, I think that's what it was. I think it was, let's test the waters. Let's see what Mickie James does.
Crazy buzz, social media went crazy. Let's double this down. Let's see what Jordana Grace does. People go crazy, right?
Like, so it's a smart move. I don't think it was anything like, like how I would love to say, oh yeah, they partnered with them to try to take TNA and put them above AEW.
I don't think anything to do with AEW. I don't think they give a shit about AEW, to be honest. Tony Conn is a moron and he's his own threat.
Tony Conn is his biggest obstacle. He's his own obstacle on his own ricks.
His own worst enemy. His own worst enemy. Absolutely.
And the second rumor, which is not a rumor, which is true, and you mentioned TK being his own worst enemy and being a moron.
He has prohibited any wrestler on the contract with AEW to appear in any wrestling company or show during WrestleMania weekend.
So if you are a wrestler that's on the contract with AEW and we don't see you that much on TV, and you're still on the contract and you were thinking, well, I guess I'll go to WrestleMania weekend and work for all the different companies and make that money.
Unfortunately, because Tony said, no, you're not. Since I'm tired of WRE, I'm tired of TNA, I'm tired of everybody screaming over. I'm going to be a pissant and I'm going to be a complete moron.
And they have my feelings so I'm going to block you from working any show for any company during WrestleMania weekend.
And if you are working in any show, any wrestling company, every weekend, don't bother coming back.
So, Jeff, what do you see about you maybe being a wrestler on the contract with AEW? We see you once a month, you're getting a push, and now we haven't seen you for the next three months, and you're thinking to yourself, well, WrestleMania weekend's coming.
I'm working for this one, this one, this one. I'm working Friday, I'm working Saturday. I'll make my money for the year. And now he pulls this year.
So, Muffin the Martinez tags me, right? Bang, I'm in.
Here we go. Hit the screen.
I get tagged in.
So, let me start with this. One of the coolest things I've ever heard is, and I got a shout out to Coach B, chess coach.
He likes to ask newcomers, what do they know about chess? And when these people think they know chess and they don't know about ampoussants or anything like that, he tells them, you know the difference between chess players and people like you is chess players play chess.
You just move pieces, right? So, for people who are out there trying to, you know, get checkmate back ranks and all that really good stuff of, you know, running the middle and understanding your point, you know, piece by piece.
Tony Khan thinks he's the king on your chess board, right? He wants to be the king. The only problem is, he doesn't understand the value of the queen, the bishop, the rook or the knight.
He thinks everybody's pawns. And he doesn't realize that when the pawn gets to the other side, the pawn can become any piece of chess except for one more king and a pawn.
So, he doesn't really even understand that. So, right now he's taking pieces and all he's doing is turning everyone to pawns and thinking that they're just going to sit back and go, all right, cool.
I'm just going to stay a pawn. It gets to a point where a pawn understands its value. And they go, well, if you're not going to use me, I could go make money elsewhere.
Yeah, this is a bigger platform than TNA at the moment. This is a bigger platform than NWA. This is a bigger platform than MLW.
But if I get a decent contract that comes close to this AEW money and I get to be seen on TV or YouTube on a weekly basis and I get used and utilized, yeah, I'll take a little less money and let my brain keep growing than staying here and getting sick in what do you call it, catering or whatever.
Tony Khan, by you sitting there saying, if you're signed here, you can't perform in any shows on Mania Weekend. For what reason would this be? If I'm just sitting in the back and you're not using me, it doesn't matter if I get hurt.
And if I got to sign an NDA, if I get hurt on an independent, I got to pay for my own shit. I'll probably do that because I really need to get my money.
Because I'm not doing anything. And if you think that wrestling guys are going to come over and go, oh shit, we've been signed to AEW and we're never on TV, as soon as this is over, I'm out.
And not for nothing. A lot of wrestlers are really emotional people. So word of the mouth goes a long way. Because if I get burned by you, you come back and you start talking to my people and they're like, yeah, maybe it's not worth it.
Maybe we don't need to be there because we're not John Maasley. We're not, you know, even look at Malachi Black.
Whole boys go on as soon as he can. He's gone. He's gone.
Supposedly they've already got things in the works for him to come back and storyline for him.
Right? Like, so yeah, so Malachi Black had a crazy buzz, right? You're like, oh shit, like Tom Malachi, I'll just say Tom Malachi Black, doing it in WWE comes over the house of Black shit.
It's pretty cool. Never, never turns into fruit. It just stays on a tree doing nothing or teasing Santana.
Right? And powerful LAX. I don't know of a tag team that I've seen become free agents to me that have any kind of shit like to me, they would be, they would be like a Tom Brady hit the market and his prime.
Michael Jordan hit the market on his prime. Everybody wanted LAX, right? They were super hot, did nothing.
You could go through a list of guys who went in there or females. Deanna Parazzo, superstar and impact wrestler dominating the women's division.
What the fuck is she on Ring of Honor?
Yeah, dying.
Dying. And she's like 30 something, not 40 something. Right? So Deanna Parazzo, MIA.
So if you're not a WWE person like a page or somebody else, you're really not getting that spot.
I mean, Mercedes-Benz, more know, obviously, but once again, when you think Mercedes-Benz, more know WWE, you think page WWE, like a lot of these girls.
I mean, look at the Britt Baker thing. Britt Baker got beef with Tony Khan. They talked about a few duesses.
Yeah, that was crazy.
You matter of fact, talk to me. Muffins, Muff, Chinas, what's really good?
The next thing I got to ask a question is Britt Baker AEW talk to me. So you ask all the questions, talk to me.
Well, you know, the rumor mill is that this lady is hated more and worse than we ever done she was.
I mean, when her home was like the British girl that was her and came back, she was like, she was like one of the girls from Scooby Doo because she was got the hair.
Oh, man.
Well, she came back from injury. And the first thing she said was, I am not teaming back with her again.
Yep.
So they cut that out. Dude, like even, you know, they said that they were over killing some of the rumors that people hate her.
Not everyone dislikes her. But majority are split between 5050 that they want her to come back.
And some are, if she doesn't come back, she's not going to be missed. Type of the ocean.
There was even a support.
What I was going to say is when you think AEW women division to face to me at a certain point with Britt Baker.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Baker was huge. She she I want to say put AEW women division there on her back for a while for a year or two.
You know, where you know, and carry that.
I know that you know, some people say if she doesn't come back, hey, whatever, she's not here, you know, she's not here, whatever, you know, if I don't see you, whatever, whatever.
And it was even and I don't know if this is true.
And audio that was recorded by employee at one of those, one of the last meetings.
And they forgot to hang up the phone or whatever to put them up and you want to get there on a transfer call.
And the do supposed to record is some of the conversation and supposed to you hear Tony Khan, like literally shitting on Britt Baker.
Now, like, I don't know how authentic the audio is.
But it was on on on Twitter or whatever.
And but he's here. Somebody's hearing shitting on Britt Baker a lot.
And you know, whatever marriage was there is over between them.
I mean, even Colin came out and said that big Baker cheated on Adam Cole to the point that Britt Baker went on online and said, I don't know where you get your information from but I've never cheated on anyone on my life.
I'm just bringing you what I seen read, you know, what was going on.
And if it's true or not, yeah, I don't believe Colin either.
But you know, he do he's in the wrestling business.
So you never know.
I'm pretty sure somebody be telling him shit.
And they don't know you don't need clickbait or drama.
He's Conan. He's gonna he's gonna have enough viewers where you don't need to be going down that lane.
Hey, bro, don't get mad at me.
I'm just I'm just telling you what I'm just right.
Conan is supposed to represent the street.
Like, what are you doing?
Well, Conan, Conan turning.
Well, Conan is singing for for a bottle of Sprite right now.
Or for or for a drink of Coke.
He's singing like a canary.
So like one like one of the heart of the fire heartbeat sing for a drink.
So, you know, so that was the thing to so bring Baker is definitely done with the company.
Whenever her contract expires, because no one knows also when that expires.
So but she's definitely done on that unless this is all the rules.
But I highly doubted that it is.
But yeah, bring Baker who was there one of the pillars.
You know, it's definitely on her way out.
The girl we hold the agent chick who was the first a W women's champion.
She's still on the mend where any injury, even though she's she's already coming back and and and exercising and doing stuff inside the ring.
They don't know when she'll be clear to come back.
So right now, I mean, you you got two or your tough females.
One on the way out once feel hurt. The other ones are in limbo in our ring of honor that you don't use.
You know, you know, that's still out there, you know, and you really use her and she's been a two years ring of honor women's champion.
You know, but you keep her in.
What's Camille doing Camille.
Nobody knows she had that thing on her elbow and she got fired by money and no one's seen her since.
So so so we're 2025.
So imagine the buzz you had in 2023 when you were getting a free agent and you were the hottest female out there at that time coming January 2024.
And for the next six months, no one's seen or heard about you ever, you know, for six, seven months.
So you finally showed up in in AEW as the muscle for money.
And then two months later, she's berating you calling you dumb, stupid, the other kind of shit.
So you went from the hottest free agent to be muscle to being disrespected and being shown down like you were beneath what you're supposed to be.
What a what a harsh thing and now you again you off again for the rest of the year and we're in 2025 and if you say Camille's name, probably gonna go who see the day that's what we were saying that we were saying
that my know doesn't want anyone that's going to be a threat to her.
So what happens, she comes in, she gets the wackest world.
You're her lackey. So your buzz already goes down because you're not even Camille, the enforcer, the draw, the whatever you want to call it from and the way a little brick house.
You know what I'm saying? She went from listen, we've said this, I hope we did our 10 pounds ago, long time ago.
We listen, we kept the 1000 people before COVID. She was super green, super green.
COVID came back. We were like, he was worse on the same level as Brandy Rhodes.
Facts.
I should tell you a lot.
Yeah, before COVID BC before COVID right before before COVID we see the first match she comes back after COVID we're like, who's this right like what?
Like, what has climbing her. She starts climbing her own ladder to success.
And WA gives her her platform. She keeps growing. She has bang her at the banger at the banger at the banger.
She does. I'm a free agent. I mean, and I get it. You, you hit your ceiling with NWA. You, you're the women's champ.
You dominated your broke records. There's nothing really left for you to do. So you go, okay, I'm a free agent. Everyone wanted you.
You do your cool little video. I've been on the phone with XYZ XYZ XYZ. There's a lot of, you know, things going around.
And I'm signed to dot, dot, dot seven months later, we see you in AEW because fans are where the fuck is coming up?
Where is she now? We got content where we're saying where's Camila, where's Camila, where's Camila?
We are going to put her picture on the milk cart.
We put a picture on a milk cart. Yes, we did. So she gets the AEW. You throw her under Sasha Banks.
Now all of a sudden people like, wow, she didn't get the pot. Everyone thought because whatever.
And then now, oh, something with an elbow. You're on deuces. There's no buzz for you.
Right. So you go, okay, WWE is not going to sit back and go, yeah, well, maybe, right.
But what? Never know. You got TNA involved. Never know. You got TNA involved.
Now I don't really need Camila. I have any female I want sitting in my wings right on a phone call.
Yo, I need, I need Tasha Steele's. Yo, I need, you know, whoever, Marcia Slamovich, you know, whoever you want in TNA.
I'm a phone call from St. Joe. Send this person over.
So now if I'm impact, I really don't kind of need Camila neither because I have anybody I wanted an ex team.
And that is a fucking stable of young super talented people who have a big buzz to them.
So now what do you do if this don't work out and those two don't call, you're leaving the third big.
You go, well, maybe I'll go back home to NWA or maybe I'll try MLW and do what?
Well, NWA will take her in a heartbeat.
And they should, as they should in a heartbeat.
The only thing I'd say why MLW be a little more interesting to me than NWA because I've already done everything in NWA like we previously said.
But if I could go to Port Bauer and say, Hey, look, your women's division is kind of ass.
We know you have two girls under your roster.
Bring me in. Let's build this.
And I mean, I'm not saying she has to be the super focal point.
I put Camille and I love Delme XO. I love, I love a geniokai. I think they're both super talented.
Adding a girl like Camille in changes everything because everyone looks at geniokai like she's the super badass tough girl.
But let me say that. Yeah, you could do this versus girls your size, right?
Because there's no real big diesel girls in MLW.
Geniokai is not physically out, out strengthening Camille.
No, not even close.
So you'd have to rely on your speed game and your kick with the kick demon stuff.
There's a lot of opportunities if they did it right. But at this point, there's no buzz behind her and we love Camille.
We're Camille fans.
And then the whole thing.
Yeah. And the whole thing is, you know, so you got to see, you got big, big on the way out.
We host your heart.
Sky blue, blue on her ankle. Remember last year on a match.
Nobody knows when she's going to come back because she has surgery.
So you got three other girls who you need.
Julia Hart just came back from injury. So you slowly bring her in.
They're depending on one girl who I always send you the those links.
Howdy, Cameron, the singer, Australia.
And I love her because all she does is just funny and singing.
She still hasn't won a match in TV.
But you might want her to wrestle in your grand slam right now straight up because you're going to Australia.
So that's the one that they're trying to push now is Harley Cameron now.
Who like I said hasn't won one match on TV yet.
Where, where is your pastry girl at?
What's her name? The white out girl.
Hey, yeah, pay.
She's still saying I don't want to.
I love page. I think you'll be hitting on page.
Yeah, page is out.
The other girl who was part of her crew. She got pregnant and just I think just had a baby.
Yeah, but you know what though with the other signing into someone.
Yeah, with pages, you're signing someone who's always hurt.
So yeah, pages, pages, pages, Joel and B of AEW.
Hey, that's funny.
Hey, man.
That was funny. That was funny because yeah, I was something.
Yeah, but you know, you got like four or five, six chicks who made your company better.
Who right now are unavailable for many reasons.
You're trying to build a chick that you took from the back that all she did was just talk and do songs here as parody or fun.
And now you're trying to push her as a wrestler and people are either going to buy it or they're not.
So far, people are cheering and slowly, you know, she's getting the buzz.
So I'm pretty sure she'll go against Monet at down there in the Grand Slam in Australia, just because they're in Australia.
And that's her hometown.
But yeah, other than that, you're lucky on the women's division.
Yeah, thanks.
So listen, the question was, you know, he's blocking anybody from working for some money a weekend.
He's only going to kick himself in the ass and it's going to be a bad look and you're going to burn a lot of relationships with people that you don't want to burn with.
But before we get up out of here, so everyone knows I'm a beat.
I gotta say this, everybody knows I'm a big BKFC guy, right?
Love BKFC.
So I switch, I put everything back on here where it belongs.
And on Wednesday, I'll be doing an interview with another BKFC fighter.
I'm really excited to do it with this brother.
He's four. No, he just knocked this dude up out bad.
Like, so, so excited from Saturday.
No, the last one.
Okay.
So Saturday was there, like it's called Nucklemania.
That's their big pay-per-view of the year, which was the fifth one.
But the pay-per-view before that is what this guy was on.
And man, that was a brawl.
So I'm excited.
He's from Edmonton.
I dig it, right?
Like Indian doing so.
We're going to have some fire.
If you want to be on it, it'll be 530 on Wednesday.
What do you mean, Indian?
You mean Native American?
No, like India.
Oh, India. Okay.
So I'm, listen, I'm hyped up because this dude be laying.
I mean, I'll send you a clip of this for knockouts.
You'd be like, dang, like, dude, we taking people out Wednesday 530.
So I'm going to try to get you to jump on there.
I know you're kind of iffy with things, but listen, we're doing shit.
We got a lot of shit coming.
We just did a, I just threw a quick video of a guy getting knocked out.
It has over 15,000 views.
So listen, y'all know what it is.
Earthwrestling Network, Muffins Martinez.
We're going to try to get this out to you as fast as I can.
459.
I'm going to try to get this guy to get it out of here before 530.
So for me and this man, we out of here.
Juices.
No balloons.
No more balloons.