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What's really good ladies and gentlemen, it's your boy chef. It's your man muffins Martinez

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We had dropped our Monday content for y'all we talked

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Everything WWE NXT we talked some MLW Kings of Coliseum

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Something had happened where we were like, you know what there's nobody that talks MLW like we talked MLW

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So and plus listen, I'm a big ass take an underground guy

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I'll have a is my one of my favorites that ever been in MLW. So when we seen the video of

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Delorenta and El Hefe sitting in the back. They get the little thumb drive, right? They put it in

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They're seeing something. They're scared about her baby got grabbed up real quick

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The husband had to take the place of the kid because we're not gonna steal your baby. We're gonna take your man

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So I know you had a name and I'll go down why I think it's going to

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Not be who you think it is even though everything is saying it might be that guy

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What y'all you know

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Was did the leader came out little scary there the person speaking English in Spanish?

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You can see the hands there, you know, there's a there's some big

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Fat, you know hog hands or whatever so the first one I saw the hands and I saw the arm first thing that that came to mind was

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Matanza

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Which is if you follow Lucha on the ground for the years that they were an all-rate channel

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you remember that

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Cesar Durand had a different

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Alien at that side before he fled LA and moved into

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Ah, I'm a W. So, you know, he went to a witness protection program and got his name changed

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So, you know, you will mention that the other guys name just in case, you know

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We keep that in secret because the paperwork is sealed for that

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But at that time he had a key. He had a monster locked up

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For a while we didn't know who it was and then we found out it was the brother and then it was his name was Matanza

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anything in sight

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Put put in front of him he will destroy back then

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Now we fast forward what like I want to say like five years now since Lucha on the ground

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The voice said that is if somebody

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Coming back from revenge for things that he did to him

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Things that he did to him is definitely

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Someone who he had maybe had killed

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the dead doing the

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I can't think of anybody's name, but I know you killed a few

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Okay, oh Cho or something like that

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Then I remember the other guy in Africa his name and I can't believe it because we interviewed him

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He was our first ever unit interview that we did but we started the what they got resting podcast

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And I forgot his name. I can't believe it

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He has a hit list, you know people that that he did dirty in Mexico

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Venezuela if he went there Chile Peru

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Panama, you know, I don't know if he went there, but I'm throwing out different

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Latino country Hispanic countries El Salvador

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So, you know made somebody from the Virgin Islands there's a bunch of different Virgin Islands, maybe somebody from Cuba who knows

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I'll be upset if it's somebody who you

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What you found out, okay, no, I was looking for the list and it just keeps sending me all over the place

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Transfer here go here go there

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What I'll be upset if it's somebody from MLW

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So it can't see this is where all right, this is where I want to go with it because I'll be very upset

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Like all right, so

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It with with the style of how they did things

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It's only two types of individuals that do this one. It's either the mafia

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Right because supposedly they don't go after your wife and kids

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But you know you got to make a point you do what you got to do to make a point and the cartel, right?

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So if I'm gonna take your kid

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I don't really care about taking the baby daddy like that to me was like when you put the kid involved with the kid is missing and

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cartel mob shit and there's no one on the MLW roster that feels anything like that

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They specifically made it somebody from the past. I like the metals thing. I think he could definitely be in play

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I tried to remember the guy we did the interview with I can't we're gonna you know

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We should take that on the road on here as a throwback interview

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But real shit though like if you sit back and I go all right

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It's cannot be and we said this before it can't be

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Eric Bischoff that's not his wheelhouse. It's not how he gets down. So I mean, yeah, you see a contract thing

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Like there's none of that ODX for shit this to me has to be somebody from lucha underground and

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It has to be somebody in a play now. Are they finally which we've been saying for years going to go into that?

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I would say which underground as take an underground thing and finally put the wheels in motion to actually give us something as take an underground because

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Cml Cml L heavy with a sprinkle of some American wrestlers in it, right?

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So there's no real identity for MLW at the moment as take an underground to play the fucking perfect thing between

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Mexico and America right because as

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As I said underground we know has the

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The lucha doors and all that everything they've been bringing in for a while lucha underground had a bunch of even Americans in masks you had um, oh

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What was it gringo logo wore the mask and everything I think it was

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That was with evil ease

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His name on my head hold on

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He was an MLW little wow. Yeah, um

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The son of something

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Yes that guy and he was a little while he didn't say yeah, and then we have the mask and then

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Swarf that used to be um swerve oh, he was the same name

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For the mask I guess work right out of memo yeah, well

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I just remember there was a ricochet under also a man

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I mean the ricochet was on the mask a our fast was also on their mask because that was when they were doing the

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Guys in the army fighting each other and do came back

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Yes, crazy crazy crazy few without one was so the other that you said they had a couple of Americans on their masks that were cool

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So if Mlw does a smart you keep was it wasn't he called out the son of havoc

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So yes, yes the son of havoc now, and I know his real name was Matt something. Yeah, because then he was pressing on the mask

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But at this point, I'm like I don't want to be a low-end lucha underground guy

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I don't know even though who's left right like I don't know contracts and where people are but this has to be somebody from there and

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Presentation they can't just give us a little something

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They've been doing this backstage shit with Della renta and L. Hephey for a few months now

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You literally in the same show have her when she wasn't with the baby yet and then have her without the baby right like so

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I like it. I like what they do one

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Backstage she looked like she was still pregnant

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Yeah, and then the second one when they were looking looking at the thought the thumb thing

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She had the baby already you could tell she already had the baby

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So listen, I'm all gun hope for it

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I do think it might be my time but I think it has to be somebody else because isn't it's a he locked up with new Japan like locked in with

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All the guys there was Mac cross there's enough guys

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Matt cross. Thank you now. I don't think Matt crosses locked in right with anybody. No, I have I haven't seen that do since

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He was doing a lucha arm and I'll double you. I haven't seen I don't even know where he is to be honest with you

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Name in a while, I mean

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Like it can't be the psycho clown guy because he was with with

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El Jave when they were doing the as take a thing in Mexico

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He was part of that he bought Richard Holliday and like that prison thing

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So he represented for him. There's a lot of guys who I'm curious and

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At this point, I'm like, you know what the next show has to give us a visual of who this guy is

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Right like because all right, we seen a teaser now. We need somebody but then what do you do after that?

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Right, this is the big question of

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MLW has to hit this out the park because

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You've teased it you've teased it it has to work

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But then when it works what comes out of it, right?

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Because we need El Jave to be around El Jave has been killing it. He you know, I mean look at the crowd reaction to when

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Tell me XO won the title. Yes. Yes

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Yes, I went nothing. He came out like, you know, this is our champion

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That's gonna say the crazy thing was he actually had 2400 fans there that night

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So I mean what they sold out and then they added 40 or something like that

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It's more like a couple more seats just for I guess he were walking up to you know, and I guess that's like the first show

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After the von Erich's you know, because they were down in Dallas and you know, you know, that's not every van every country right there

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so they did more

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Without them then with them at that same location before so

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That I they should tell you something right there like right now, you know the domestic and restless the CML the guys, you know

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If you were tired of it

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Like some of us are because sometimes I do get tired of it

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But it looks as good as gonna be here for a long time or for no because it's making is making LMO W money

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Mystical stuff is

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No, it's wrong. Yeah mystical stuff is number one seller for LMO W right now

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So how yeah, I don't know how if they're dividing that money up because you know

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He's a Mexican wrestler for a different company those LMO W gets a kind of cut

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This is in the States, you know stuff like that. So

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But I'll be upset if he's making money and we're not getting something out of it

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And he's in our show, you know say so see but this is this is where I'm at with it, right?

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Like okay, like you said and I agree with you

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Am I tired of it? Yeah, because a lot of times you're not putting the right guys into me

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Right like I want to see the triple threat guys like those three dudes went crazy, right?

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That was a fucking match

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You're gonna give me something give me guys that are in their youth or primes where it's not super old

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Folkies and shit, but keep now. I'm telling you right now. Let's just say

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They kind of give a new bad guy that he burned a bridge because you're not gonna use a lucha underground thing, right?

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You'll do you got six million luchadors that have been coming in for the last two three years

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make a stable

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Make a stable put one guy who actually knows how to talk

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I don't know which one of them make them all bad asses and fucking go at Aztec underground or

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Fucking take this guy cuz obviously listen you you did this for a reason, right?

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Selena de la renta is a threat and this is this is where we got to go with this because if you if you're new to MLW

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You live under a rock. I don't fucking know what to tell you except Selena de la renta everything

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She touches fucking turns gold not not being for

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Precision or trying to act or goofy but look at her resume everyone

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She's been aligned with has one championship gold doesn't matter if it's tag heavyweight middleweight

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She had what's her name?

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Tonight Kai who was the featherweight when she was with promotion is Dorado

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So that's her talent before she went to contra units. So she got gold there, too

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Um, El Hefe he's a threat. So you got to make a mark. How do you do that?

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I take something from you which now is her baby dad, right?

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Like homeboy was told you got to go handle that he put his fucking super cool gold Aztec a mask on and he disappeared

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You know what that means his ass is

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Right because it's a statement. You're not getting them back. You got your kid back. You don't get this one back

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This is how this shit works. I'm not trying to be on some narco shit, but listen and that what trying to

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You trying to build some knuckle shit

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But bro you telling me that that's not the field oh

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Yeah, man, you know when you do something like that you you're you know, you're

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Pedaling into that type of life, you know, so now you it's a fiction or it's a real or we know real life

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We've seen we've heard lots of stories of stuff like that. That's still you know, Netflix been doing stuff

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TV shows and movies

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Stuff of stuff like that, you know all the ladies named the last show they did with the lady

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That was a big big

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Yeah, yeah, so that you know, that's real though that

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Yeah, so you know now you bring the lines between you know, viari and fantasy

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So you do something like this. This is this happens in real life

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But you put it in here in in our story line

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So if people know people knows gonna happen to the dude, but as fantasy, you know

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Once we declare everything else. He'll come back out

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He'll be back free. Oh

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You know, listen, I mean, it's wrestling right like wait

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This is why when I put the post on on overwrestling network on Instagram

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Literally said yo, we gotta have fun with this right if you're not trying to have fun

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You're being all stuffy and whatever like it's corny to me. I'd like doing these because it makes it have fun

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We get to have some fun and throw our own crazy ideas into the mix, but hear me out. Yes

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This guy's obviously listen, he's fucking hanging out probably doing the videos with them holding the camera like this guy's been at

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Mlw before he was her like

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At that point he was just kind of like a lackey to to Della rent the right anything she wanted him to do he did

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And it's cool. It's her legit baby daddy and for storyline purposes not only does she get her mom in but now

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The baby daddy comes back he gets to pull you to match right like

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Yeah, yeah, this is this is what I'm saying like

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And this is where when we say we like doing this for the culture, right?

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Like let me take a real step into this

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In the culture of what we like to say about a lot of people don't put our own culture on that are in a position to do that, right?

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So she put her mom on now. I don't know the mom social media. I know you do

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I'm sure that some Mlw fans have got really excited

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Found the mom liked her stuff because W they have a big following and now so does she gets her social media up the baby daddy

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He's he's got to have some kind of social media. They're gonna fuck with him because now he's there

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everyone around

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We don't even know his pop. You don't even know his name a

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Baby daddy number one Jesus number one baby. They know what? No, the only one

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baby daddy

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I mean not gonna call him big poppy like

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That's already taken by Danny

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That Danny's big poppy. Well, yeah, all right. So it's Selena Delara Selena Delara Delara the tubby. How about that?

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Yes

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Okay, so her hubby gets grabbed up. I don't know if they married but her hubby gets grabbed up

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he's

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Now we're sitting back saying oh shit shit just got serious now in that line of work. It's an eye for now, right?

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You took something of mine. I got to take something of yours

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So whoever this person is which I do believe it's Matanza, but I hope it's a CMLL crew

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I want to see a cartel faction come in and do what they do

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But I mean if it is my time stop which is Jeff pop. I mean

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He's gonna have to have some kind of permission to be able to do that in MLW

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This he is in you know, when the Japan wrestling saw

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You I went on track, you know what I want to say what if it's King worth is?

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Do that be awesome. Let's see. He's definitely not with anybody and he versus a lot in Puerto Rico. So

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That'd be awesome if it is I didn't even think of him either. I did not even think of Kim worth this

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That was the name that I was gonna throw at you in the beginning, but we got you know how we do shit

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We get sidetracked

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Bro, miss. Oh, you know the old the old messiahs King worth this

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Yeah, I did not I did not even think of King worth this

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That'll be that'll be the I mean look not thinking of the hands that could that definitely could be him because he's he's both good Spanish

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think this is Spanish man and

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You know, he can come back with the one girl. I used to be with him and I forgot her name

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Kalani Kalani. Yes, but was it right?

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But what was the name on him a dog?

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Yeah, I don't remember I remember I took her and stuff for that back in very name now

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But that'd be awesome because then they could start their own stable

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Which I thought we were gonna do that before and then they disappeared for

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We haven't seen them since and I want to say that was pre-covid. I don't know that was alright

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I think it was a pre-covid or just starting after COVID. I think

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Yeah, yes, yes, because it was the first show you had a feeling and I took the whole all the kids with me my nephews with me

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So yeah, it was the first show and then we never we saw her for like one more month and now we see we never saw them again

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So, you know, I'm getting Karlie Perez. Yeah. Yeah, Karlie, but yeah, I don't remember her name on the show there

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Boy, I'm Karlie. I'll be awesome

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I love to have a bag. She might have been Leilani. I don't know because that's her middle name. Yeah, but yeah, that'd be awesome

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I didn't think of me work as bad. I think I think you hit the nail in the head without me

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I'll be so shit if it is though

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Because I did not even think about him that was

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That was the name I wanted to go with the whole

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time because when you said Matanz I was like, nah, that makes sense because of the whole thing but then we had King

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Dwarf is for a little while and then he kind of disappeared, right?

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Like and I was like, you know, King Dwarf is a big dude like homeboys hands is huge. So I was like my detective shit was going off

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and I remember the one time where she went into into

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Sesa's office and she got caught and they were looking for a key. Yeah

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And she has some kind of key or whatever and then a month later they did something again and then whoop

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No one's seen him again since that time. So maybe they came back to get their revenge

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That'd be awesome man. I mean it

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It'd be perfect timing because

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He's aligned with

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De La Renta now

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Now makes it even more personal. I took your daughters

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You know how significant now that I didn't I didn't go after you I went after your loved ones

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Recording

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I was doing a scene some other bullshit outside of

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Of the of mw

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What that made so much sense. I don't even

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Want to even think about anything else anymore because you

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We got a few seconds

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Well, I'll say you know a B also

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From out of LW, you know, maybe you know, hopefully we all keep saying, you know work with work with in the end of May

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Work with you know, what shit was there's only left but the NWA and LW

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I was like, oh shit, well, there's only left but the NWA and LW so, you know, you already have a

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EW doing their stuff you have

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TNA doing the stuff with the only and

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The only two left are MW and the way just floating in this little island trying to see if they're gonna stay relevant

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So now imagine if they say, you know something

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Let's put our resources together and start, you know slowly doing something but

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I don't see it because it's two different type of wrestling

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Why is more traditional

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One field

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Now more on the Luchadores than anything else. So yeah

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What you never know

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So I was gonna say I would give you something that easy three

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With a little group that he's trying to do with when they jump time

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And that I'm like, yeah

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But you know

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That's that's like far that's like way way out of left field with that one. So but King work this makes so much

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A thousand percent

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That

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That is just it's just

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Actually get some praise today. Yeah, it's great. I'm actually surprised

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2025 is a good year so far for Chuck his brain is actually working. I shot my shop for 2025

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On the 15th of January, you know the do-go's I would want his best ideas

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Like I can't even lie about this. I can't even make anything up against it because they just make so much sense

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Like this is like this

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They could not mess this up

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If they go anywhere else with anybody else it'll they'll mess it up

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But yeah, like perfectly aligned on the plate like here. This is this is the perfect one right here

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So Jeff I give you to the Joe I wish there was a little button to give you a high five and date but I don't think I don't know

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What happened to those buns?

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They used to be

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Listen to the prison

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So listen, I'm excited for this. I know you're excited for this. Hopefully next

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No, when is it? It's um

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Well the tape is the 23rd

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The taping is the 23rd and then the next show is the eighth

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It's on a Saturday

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23rd

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Definitely do which sucks

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Yeah, 23rd we could definitely do the eighth might be a little tough depending on the time

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No, 23rd the 23rd falls on a Thursday. I know you work early the next day

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So it all depends on what time the show goes

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Yeah, if it does nine

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I can rough one day if it's at 10 o'clock. I'm not trying to get an hour or two asleep and I'm out

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You know what I mean like

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Give me at least three hours and I'm okay. Yeah. Yeah, at least the one in February 8th. There's a lot on a Saturday. So that's that's fine

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Yeah, oh, yeah, sure. All right, so I messed up by not saying like subscribe share all that good shit if you're listening to us on Spotify

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Apple whatever our YouTube if you want to come over to our answer, baby

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Yes, sir, if you're listening to us urban wrestling network on YouTube

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Therefore you can come watch us. It is what it is. So ladies and gentlemen for myself this man here. We out of here

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through sis

