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Yo, that's my shit mr. Gray cloud y'all know what it is muffins Martinez chef listen
I have no idea what's gonna happen. I literally tried to say yo
What are we gonna talk about cuz even telling me earlier? Yo, we got some topics. Yeah, it should be quick
That's all I know. I tried it right before getting on. I was like, yo, what are we gonna talk like that?
Yeah, we'll talk during the show. I have no idea. So this is definitely gonna be super organic
I don't even know what promotion we're talking
Hey, that's the that's the beauty of wrestling
We're gonna throw out there and go from there
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40 reasons are
Just living life except for Jeff. I just trying to duck all the hurricane down in Florida
Back to in a row and the man is doing good. So thank God for that. So he's here
So let's go into this first thing that I want to say is for the news is MLW
November 9th, we're having the apocalypto show down in Chicago and they went out and they already
Q&A or a meet and greet
with every freaking CMLL star that's coming to the show on November 9th
So from 6 to 645 if you were there and you got your first row tickets
You'll be able to see mystical
What's this guy's name and a hen she'll a bunch of other guys like a star juniors star the father
Everybody else would you sing on their show for the last year who is gonna be on this show coming up?
They will be there for a meeting week
This will be like I'm pretty sure the only time in the history of CML that if you're there
Make sure you get some pictures
By your 8 by 10s by your merchandise because this is gonna be huge
So that's the only MLW news that I have because unfortunately when hurricane Helene hit
They had to close their show and cancel it from that Saturday and they never made up anything for the rest of the month
So we're waiting for the rubber knife to sit there and give you our
Faces of what is going to go and watch the show along but
MLW news that we got there chef
So what's the next once the next live comes will definitely be on here?
You know talk some shit have some fun with it. Yes, I did last time
Yeah, yeah, and and just to give MLW just a little bit of praise because you know, I'm really critical on it
There's a lot of really positive things if done right, which is MLW's kind of problem
Right now we got the road horsemen that look like they're about to take shit by storm
There's a lot of great opportunity with our son
CW Anderson who I didn't know a lot about and they put a mic on this guy promo was fired
They're on a fucking rooftop. Wow. Just to mention he has no relation
whatsoever to the Anderson brothers just to make it no
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, the only reason why they did this was be for two reasons one
he looks like an Anderson back then and
When they came and went try out
he wrestled and looked just like an Anderson and
They asked one of the Anderson's back then. I don't know if it was Jean or Lars
We would like to make this like one of your cousins and they say, okay, let me see on what he got
They got him to look at him and they say, yep, we will take him.
We'll inherit him.
So he basically was stemmed by one of the Anderson's 30 years ago.
So that's why he became an Anderson.
See, what I like about this group, now I know this is you,
you're a horseman guy through and through.
The mix between obviously CW Anderson is what we call like an elder statesman,
the veteran, right?
But Bobby Fish is no spring chicken either.
He's a veteran and then you got two young guys which PRG is absolutely amazing and
he's been killing it.
And then I think Brock Anderson is the son and he's young.
So you have veterans that can coach up the young guys and bring them up.
MLW is in a really good place with that.
Contra unit is obviously still killing it.
Minoru Suzuki, Quantag team champions and Janiakai is holding the women's belt.
So there's a lot of things in a positive way.
But unfortunately, we're not going to probably see anyone at the Chicago tapings.
That's not part of CMLL or some bookstore fashion.
If we do cool, if not, listen to Chicago crowd, they're not there for
the MLW product, right?
Like they're there for those guys.
It's the Latino crowd and they want their luchadors and they're going to get it.
MLW smart with this.
Just wanted to give them a little love before we get off of what we were doing.
Yeah, so that's the MLW news.
We're going to shift now to AEW.
And this is the one of the questions that I want to ask Jeff once I give him the
little background of what's going on.
So we've seen a couple of weeks ago and we've seen our rest of Dream,
a new group that's been kind of taking over AEW.
And it's the group of John Moxley with Marina Shafir,
the Pact the bastard, Daniel Castellano, and then William Yuda.
Now they don't have a name yet, but I like to call them the paradigm shift.
Because of his last, his deity move.
I say, let me just call them that.
But they be taking over, they laid down the rules,
they Moxley defeated Mr. Brian Danyson.
And what we know about that is you saw the beatdown that happened afterwards,
our rest of Dream.
And you saw some of the rest of us who came out and they kind of milked it
afterwards and they dropped the footage afterwards, you know,
crying and taking them back to the ambulance or the hospital.
So you kind of see something going on there.
And the good thing that I like and I respect about Danielson is that the whole
time for months, he's been working without a contract with AEW.
Oh wow, well, he had no contract.
This was all just handshake deals.
And I promise you I'm going to do this.
And we know, I mean, I don't know Brian Danyson like that.
But you could tell he's one of those old fashioned, you know,
that we did a handshake deal.
I'm going to honor this.
We're going to finish this the right way.
You know, because when he said that once I lose this title, I'm retired.
So he's officially retired from in-ring competition.
And the beatdown just kind of cemented it more.
Yeah.
Like, you know, now he's gone.
And like, if he comes back, he'll be sometime next year to do something
small here and there.
But we won't see him active wrestler again for a long time, if anything.
I doubt that he'll go to the new WWE with, you know, with Triple H.
I doubt it.
I hope he doesn't.
I hope he stays in AEW, stays retired, helps out and stuff like that.
You know, do some special things with the new guys, all about and stuff like that.
But we've been seeing Moxley give you this amazing promos in a pickup truck
and the back, the jumping people that doing this.
He says something that stuck in my head.
You either are with us, you either join us.
And what we're trying to do, are you are against us.
They started with a dark order.
They did a beatdown with other dark order and who else was to beat down?
Oh, a tough flight.
So with all these things that is being said and done and what he just said that,
you either with us, you either join us or you are against us.
My question to Chip is this.
Since back in 2001 or maybe even 2000, there was the NWO and the NWO, the beatdowns.
And the NWO said the same thing.
You either join us or you are against us.
And you remember that episode at the end when wrestlers were coming out,
ice strings, they're attacking, no turns on ice string.
Marcus Bagwell and other guy, Scotty Riggs and Bagwell turns to Scotty Riggs.
And breaks the tag team up and you can see that.
Do you think this is a second coming of the NWO?
Because I know we've seen different fabrics, different, you know, companies try to do the whole thing
with people in a group.
And then the first thing people say, oh, they're doing the new NWA, but they never live up to that.
They try that with BCC and TNA.
They try that with the beatdown.
What was it? The BCC? BCC.
BCC, they try that with the World Elite where there was all, every young with a bunch of different guys
from different countries, they try that.
We've seen it happen in NWO.
But it has never lived up to that. It has never looked like that.
Do you think this one here looks and you think it might be that new NWO for the new generation
that has never lived to that where we were in the 30s or 20s and we're doing this all day?
Suck it. You know, stuff like that in the late 20s or the 30s.
Do you think the paradigm shift is the new NWO?
So let me play double advocate because I think it could work because if anyone understands the vibe of NWO,
I think it would be Tony Khan, right? He's a big WCW guy and he lived off of that.
So I think that as we were fans, meet yourself.
We enjoy NWO for what it was, right?
Like him being at events and him being there, it's a whole different vibe.
You know that you went to wrestling events. I went to wrestling events.
When you're at a show, it's a whole different vibe.
You're also invested more than just sitting on your couch and watching it.
So I think that if anyone could make this happen to Tim, my only knock is we've never and will never see an NWO again
because you had the whole, listen, you had Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, right?
Like, I mean not Ric Flair, Lex Luger. Sorry, Lex Luger.
Sting joins later.
Those were guys that joined later.
But like if you start, it was Hogan, Nash, Paul, Six Fuck.
Yeah. Now everyone except for X-Pac or Six Pack or one, two, three kid, whatever the people might know,
but everyone but him to me is a certified legendary wrestler, right?
Like, so it's hard to mimic that, especially even if you don't like Hulk Hogan or you do.
Hulk Hogan, I don't, the only person I could say through Hulk Hogan to now that I would be able to put with Hogan
would probably be Cena, right?
Like, Cena's the only guy that if he turned heel might be able to have that effect like Hogan.
But that roster was so legendary.
Now the thing is, I like Moxley.
I think Moxley in brain, it's great.
Adding the Shapiro girl, she's not just looks, this girl will fuck you up.
So I like everything about her, right?
Like, they have to take it serious.
And I mean this from Tony Khan and whoever's part of his creative team.
If you're going to go the NWO route, you can't have NWO looking fire and you can't have the young bucks
still doing their goofy thing.
Eventually they got to get fucked up too, right?
Like you can't play both sides of the fence.
If you're going to have your new NWO, it's got to be annihilation.
You got at one point, remember like, what was the show?
NWO takeover or something.
Remember they got rid of the WCW, the NWO thing?
Like you got to go 100% all in on this faction.
Yeah, you had the propaganda papers coming down and we had the whole banners.
And they had their own pay review.
NWO, what the hell was that?
Oh my god, I forgot the name of the pay review.
It was a takeover?
NWO sold out.
Sold out.
You're right.
And they had that pay review for what?
Two, three years they had and it was all NWO people winning all their matches.
They had their own, yeah, I mean, but I agree with you about the young bucks.
And the funny thing is two or three months ago, Dave beat the shit out of Tony Khan.
Well, he's at the draft with, you know, Tony Khan's neck.
And now it's just like, they forgot about that.
And when the last beating they were doing this week, when they were jumping the dark order
empire party and stuff like that, they actually backed off and didn't want to go in and help
anybody out.
Well, they actually were on the backtracking of the ring with Jack Perry and they're going like,
yo, this is not anything having to do with us.
So let's get out of here.
They were confronted by Daniel Garcia in the back empire party about why didn't they help?
And they said, this ain't got nothing to do with us.
It's supposed to be the EVPs.
It's supposed to be like, you know, you started this for five years and you're just standing
back and they said, yo, let us go.
So do you think that they will join?
Oh, I hope not because.
They're not joining the AEW side in the future.
I mean, they live through my AEW side because look at anyone from and we're basically up
then WL, right?
Yeah, there was no slapstick goofy character, right?
Everybody was a bad ass at NWL.
Everybody, even if you don't have a talking part, you look angry.
You know what I mean?
Like it was everything was meant to fit everyone.
I mean, even if it's just macho man sliding off the limo, the front of the limo and they're
doing everybody's going crazy.
You got Dennis Ron.
It was a fucking spectacle, right?
Like what NWO did, they were violating fucking the commentators.
They would kick them off, talk crazy.
They had an NWO referee.
I mean, one of the most iconic things in my memory of wrestling fandom is when Ramas
Thiru gets launched into the truck, right?
Like shit is like to this day he got darted against that damn 18-liter back of the, oh
my God, dude, like that was still every time you say that I could still see that in my
brain because he just got picked up.
He got blown away.
He looked like a little mini dutch.
I mean, it felt they killed them.
You had the police involvement at times like this shit was wild.
Nobody was goofy.
Young books are a goofy act, right?
Like, I don't want slastic.
I want these guys to feel like there's no rules and the only rules is our rules, whatever
we're going to do.
It mostly fits that.
It mostly fits that I'm going to beat the shit out of you.
I don't even got to talk much.
We're just going to, I'm going to violate you.
So I like that aspect.
I think the Shapiro girl, we've seen her in impact or she did her thing.
So I'm like, yo, they got a lot of nice pieces.
The wheel of Utica.
He's super talented, right?
There's a lot of things in play.
Stomping out a legendary iconic wrestler, Daniel Bryan from Ring of Honor to WWE to
AEW as a champ.
This guy has won everywhere.
Right?
Like he has done everything.
That is a statement piece that no one is safe.
We'll take your top guys out.
This, you have to keep going with this.
I think it could be, but the name's got to make sense, right?
Like if they go with your name, I'm cool with it.
But it can't just be a random name.
It's got to be something where you hear and you're like, five.
Do you see any tag team breaking up to join that new group?
If, if they happens where they start growing and they do a show where like either you join
us now or we're, or you're done and you see people coming in.
Ken Macdon beats the shit out of what's his name.
Who?
Um, uh, what's his partner?
Um, Ray Phoenix.
Oh, I think those guys are gone.
No, didn't one of them just resign?
Well, no, he got his time added on, but I think, and that was on Phoenix.
I don't think, I don't think, uh, Pentize will be there.
You know, I think his contract expired and then they added a Phoenix time because
of, of the hurt.
He was disabled for a while.
So they added that time on top of his contract.
So you want to leave?
Oh, you're leaving yet?
He's the only five, six months.
So we're going to add that on.
Yeah.
So they kind of screwed them there.
And then you said they stomped out top flight, right?
That just dumped up top flight.
And I see, I see the, the one guy, our, our, our reality, whatever his name is.
Lee Marriard.
Well, no, who?
Lee Marriard.
No, not him.
No, no, his last name is Ariadio or something like that.
Not the two brothers, but the other guy who's, who's all with them.
Yeah.
I, I see him kind of joining them.
If that happens, I see Daniel Garcia turning heel because he's better as the heel and maybe
just he took his shit now and then later on you see him kind of jumping the ship,
uh, private party, maybe, uh, you got to break one of them up though,
unless you're going to do the Harlem heat thing.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Like, like they did with, uh, American males, which is, yeah,
that will, and, and, and the rigs and ice train and, uh, you know,
carton Nord, they come down and they turn those guys.
What's that big guy?
He used to be part of Impact Wrestling.
Then he came over there.
Yeah. Kill switch or the, the, the, the lesser guy.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Um, uh, big white dude.
Um, oh, um, that would, that's what, uh, Phil Jericho in the learning tree that he was
part of the tag team we found that more on a one.
No, no, no, he was in Lucha Underground too.
The real big guy looks like you know, Stell Royce.
Damn.
Yeah. Remember he wanted to leave and then he stayed because maybe he had nothing for him.
Who? Cage?
Yeah. Brian Cage.
Oh, geez.
Now, now he's part of the Kata family now.
How that happened?
Nobody knows, but he just showed up one day on the interview with Kata's and now
with father Kata's family.
Like no one knows how this guy joined that family, but he's part of the family now.
Okay. So an MJF has to be a loner, right?
Like, well, yeah, it's MJ good body against the university and now we're Adam Cole.
So, but you'll need some big names like you said, like Adam Cole and MJF type name.
Like someone that's a top tier.
If Moxley can swing MJF, that shifts the ties completely because a lot of people might not
know MJF's work from MLW.
You know what I mean?
So they think he's an AEW guy.
Like they think that they're the ones who made him.
So if you got your fan base that doesn't know his work, you know, before AEW and you consider
him an AEW guy, I think you have to switch him over, send him with this group and be the
anti AEW.
Yeah. Don't forget.
Don't forget the dynasty.
No, listen, people sleep on the dynasty, right?
Like, phenomenal.
I like, obviously we're big dynasty guys.
But my team right there, the dynasty.
But yeah, on some real shit, you're going to have to keep me involved with this because
I like where this is going.
Like I said, I want to see it work because I think the closest thing we see to
NW, you always probably bullet club, right?
Yeah. But that's your opinion.
So a lot of people don't see it.
Yeah.
You know, your black and white logo and, you know, they do.
Exactly.
And I think if you want to get that feel, like you said, you have to come there one day with
some loud music coming out, some shit coming out from the Raptors and have them there and
take like 15 minutes of air time just talking shit.
And they listen, they got to be unified, right?
Like everybody can be wearing different stuff.
That's like you're doing this new feel.
That logo has to be on everyone.
It's got to be where all bought in.
We believe this is what we're doing.
Otherwise, it's never going to work.
That's the problem with a lot of factions is guys wear their own wrestling attire or whatever.
No, you've got to look the part.
And the reason why I ask is because at the beatdown that I've seen
two clothes to end the year, like the same thing.
And I'm thinking that it's only four or five guys, four guys and a girl who are doing the
beating, people come out and they still get beat.
And then they jump out the back and they leave.
And then the problem by John Massey.
And then when he said, either they're going to join us or you're against us.
And I'm like, oh, that sounds too much like end of great days.
Hey, not one episode where everybody just went crazy turning on each other.
And nobody knew who the hell was working for.
So I don't want to see that.
See, when you first said it, it reminded me of state property.
And so you said NWO, that you get down to lay down.
And I was like, oh, this is where we're going.
Then you said NWO.
It's all right.
Let me let me fall back because I know where I'm going.
All right.
So you got anything else to say about that?
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
Listen, I'm excited.
Anything in WO and WO is my favorite faction of all time.
Yeah.
That's the reason why I saved this for this because I know I said, well,
I'll get chef going on the NWO thing.
All right.
So our next topic is going to be WWE.
But we're going to hit NXT.
The first two weeks, they were loaded with talent.
They had, you know, they were on the road.
The first week was in Chicago.
They had CM Punk.
Miz was there.
A couple of things were going on.
They hit over 950 on the viewership.
Second week, they were in the San Luis.
Randy Orton was there.
The tag team from down under the two Australian guys were there.
So they did over 900.
But once again, third episode, they went back home
for the sales university with a brand new setting, all black, all nice,
all one color, real nice.
And I liked it.
It looks brand new or a brand new channel.
They did.
They barely hit 600.
So my question is this to you.
Do you think they need to start, they need to bring people from up
the roster to come down to help them get with the viewership?
Or folks just need to give it time, have to learn who's working there,
give them a chance and time people will enjoy what they're seeing with Joe's, the young guys.
Now, I think that if you want to do the format with Randy Orton in St. Louis,
CM Punk in Chicago, put whoever, any star that's from a certain place,
let them go there.
And I'm sure, listen, Randy Orton being there, he's got family that's still there.
I'm pretty sure he wants to go see his family on a day where normally he couldn't.
Make it like that.
I don't care who it is, whatever state you're going to put him, just send someone.
If it's working, do it until it don't work.
Because if you keep putting a star and you're getting almost a million views,
keep going until the fucking wheels come off.
What's that place called again?
Sales University?
Yeah, but they get a different name, but.
Look, what's that Orlando where NXT used to be in?
Sales something?
The college?
Sales full sale.
Full sale, full sale.
Full sale, I would say, don't get to send it backwards.
Yeah, so full sale university.
It's a smaller venue, but I'll tell you what, it's got to be smaller than South State 21
for Impact Wrestling.
It's definitely smaller, right?
It is always packed, crowds always super fucking fired up.
I'll give it that much, right?
Like you do well, but viewership people might be tired of this shit.
They might not want to see the same faces all the time and, you know, same look.
People like different.
I mean, it's just like in sports, everybody's arena is different.
Yeah, the floors are wood or whatever, or, you know, whatever the whatever sport you're
talking about, but people love different stadiums.
People love different arenas and if people are there, that whole state of up there here,
we went to the show, they, you know, you got to watch, I might be on TV and full sale,
you're not getting that, right?
Like you're getting the same shit all the time.
I like full sale, but if it's working, you got to stay until it don't work.
And I mean, listen, we've talked NXT previously.
That roster is phenomenal.
I put, listen, I'll put NXT roster up again.
Damn you, anyway.
And today they announced that they're going to have, they're going to be in Philly sometime
in November and I can't forget what week it is.
And they're going to have NXT show from the ECW.
And God, when I saw that, I'm like, Oh no.
Well, at least there won't be no.
If I see an ECW original guy come up there, I'm going to freak.
Maybe, you know what?
You'll probably get an RVD, right?
Yes.
You'll probably get an RVD.
I can see that blue meanie.
Fuck no.
We've seen what an MLW, what's this guy who's part of the calling?
Raven.
Raven look like he's washed.
Wash is a good word.
Samman washed.
Samman washed, right?
So you need to realize, and I say the only two guys that look, they can still go is Rino.
And RVD.
An RVD.
Well, dreamer don't look that bad.
I'm pretty sure he's like late 50s.
I'm pretty sure he can't move like that no more.
Let's go.
Well, Rino still doing a second impact, right?
Yes.
Yep.
And I believe they mentioned he's going to be inducted into the TNA Hall of Fame coming up in two weeks there for Banffa Glory.
I mean, did he really do much?
He's been there for a long time and he goes and comes back, goes and comes back.
And this time he's been there for a while.
No, I know, but like when we talk, see this is my problem, right?
This is my problem wrestling fans.
Well, I hate the fact that everybody wants to use their star.
Not everybody could be a star.
And just because you play in the league a long time, don't make you a star.
You could be a good role player and there's nothing wrong with being a good role player.
Everyone needs that, but not everyone is a star.
Like, so when I think of Hall of Fame, I don't want to hear guys that are multi-time champions who have done mad work.
Like, right?
You obviously know I'm not a fucking Eddie Edwards fan.
If I heard right now Eddie Edwards going to the TNA Impact, whatever they call it, Hall of Fame, I'm like hell fucking yeah, he deserves it.
He's a multi-tag team champion.
And he's been there for like 10 years.
Yeah, he's a multi-world champion.
Like, he's put the work in and he's done it on a higher level.
He's went against the Lashley's, the EC3's, the James Storms.
You know, he's had those matches.
So absolutely, I would say that.
But I would say fucking Rhino's that guy.
They just tried to go with Rhino.
They sure for that.
And it's a fucking slap in the face that James Storms still not retired.
Listen, James Storm is a fucking TNA Hall of Famer.
He's not out of Rhino.
I would have put him in this year if that had no choice.
Like, who we got?
Rhino?
No, no, no.
Give me James Storm.
James Storm has done, he was one of the originals of TNA.
I mean, he was there for a long time, won multiple titles.
Yeah, definitely.
And two different tag teams.
America's most wanted and beer money.
Listen, and while we say that, right?
Anyone who, if you don't know beer money, or like you might know the new WAC version,
we're talking beer money when he first signed up with Bobby Roode.
Yes.
Or the America's most wanted to meet.
Most wanted.
If our group would have won a TNA's greatest faction of all time.
Yes.
Like, they put mad working.
A guy like Bobby Roode should be there.
I don't think he's in WDF.
We know more.
I don't know what.
Well, he's still there.
He's working behind the scenes.
Yeah, he's working behind the scenes.
Okay.
Well, even better.
Shit.
Well, remember, because of the neck thing, I don't think you're ever going to lose that job.
I'm pretty sure that he's going to take care of him for a long time until he says,
I'm done.
I want to leave.
He's working behind the scenes.
So, yeah.
But there are so many guys that you would think, holy shit, right?
Like, I don't know.
So back to the easy the real arena.
I'm going to freak out if they mention anybody like that.
And anybody, I will turn on the TV off if the blue really pops up on any stupid thing.
Oh, that's a nice story thing.
I will like, no, I'm done.
I'm out.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it because you know how I feel about ECW.
ECW was the shit a long time ago.
It's been dead for 20 years.
Not ECW.
That Uncle Vince brought back.
No, no, no.
That shit was crap.
I'm talking about ECW from back then before Uncle Vince bought it.
ECW had been dead for over 20 years.
And listen, before ECW got really, really popping on like, where you could watch on TV,
it fizzled fast.
It was hot.
Like you had the locals from Philly, Queens, like you had all that.
By the time it really hit TV, it was already on the decline for money and everything.
Like it didn't last long on TV.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, man, and people still holding on to that.
No, no, no.
So listen, Mets fans are still holding on to 86.
Who?
The Mets, they still holding on like fans.
They still holding on to 86 brother.
Hey, not to say anything.
They made it farther than anybody thought they were going to do this year.
They did.
I'll tip my hat to them.
They did because there for a while, they were floating on the losing side.
And that last month, they went hot.
They got into the wall cart and they flew the wall cart through everything.
And thanks to that one Puerto Rican there, Lin Doer hitting Grand Slam, playing above everything.
He did his shit.
They took him there.
And but, you know, when you got a $300 million payroll with the Dodgers and you got the best
player in the whole planet, it's Jorge O'Tany.
Dude, there's so much you could do.
And the best in trade, Miss Season trade for was Tommy Edmond.
Yeah.
Lord, that do how 11 hits, 11 hits in that deal still in those games.
11 hits that you don't go off like that, you know, unless you you're trying to prove some
shit like I want to contract after this year, somebody got a pay me.
And now you got the mega event of the year Yankees, your team against Dodgers to $300
million payrolls.
You got all tiny versus judge.
Soto versus what's the guy's name?
Mookie Betts.
And whoever pitching last longest is going to go.
You got the evil empire going up against what you call this other place.
But yeah, I don't know what you call the Dodgers.
But yeah, but anyway, this is not a baseball thing.
You have anything else to add about the WDLE NXT?
No, sir.
So one more question before we go.
And I asked this question to camera last week.
So don't do it.
You're going to stay in the lead.
There been over 700 plus days that a black athlete or black talent has not won a one on
one match on any PLE since Vince McMahon.
So Uncle Vince was the last one a black person won a one on one match.
This TKO2 goal has been over 700 plus days.
And the last four PLEs between Smackdown and Raw, not one black talent male has been on
the show.
Well, I think a lot of that has to do with the storylines.
So the question was, do you think there's a little black holding back of black talent?
A little prejudice, a little racism, because they even asked Triple H the question on the
last PLE and he said the same thing you said right now on the head.
But after Bobby Lashley left, who do you have that you could push on the main roster?
You have the Street Profits Tag Team.
You got Artruth, who's the coming act.
You have who else do you have?
Then I had the names on my head early enough I got.
Oh, the new day.
I mean, the last guy you have me when the championship was coffee.
And you saw what happened when he lost it.
So right there, that's five names of black talent.
Is it Carmelo operating?
Carmelo's up, but he's still getting his feet wet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't really go crazy with him yet.
Now, if you go into NXT, you got a bunch of them, but they're going through the process now.
I mean, to be fair, like if you would have said, do I think WWE's racist before T.A.L.
because you're Uncle Vince Haddle.
Uncle Vince did.
I know, I know, but we know Vince.
And it has to happen.
Wow.
It has to happen since Uncle Vince left.
No, I hear it.
Over 700 plus days.
Vince is always, he was also the guy who didn't want to put a belt on a black or Hispanic champion either.
So outside of like Eddie Guerrero and then because Eddie Guerrero passed away, Raymond Sturrio,
you never really seen it.
To Priest Holmes.
Priest Holmes.
Oh, well, yeah, I think that was on the TKO though.
Priest Holmes is the running back for the Kansas City G.
Oh my God, Seth Priest Holmes.
Bonus man, Martina, but what's the name?
Damian Priest.
Who?
Damian Priest.
Damian Priest, yeah, I'm Jesus.
Yeah, Priest Holmes.
I'm like, I was like, what's with the Kansas City G throwback show?
I'm sorry, man.
So I was talking about the beatdown we got yesterday by your Buffalo Bills.
Jesus.
So, I mean, yeah, I mean, also, you know, Salute to Damian Priest is always at fucking Yakin
Stadium, all of a sudden.
Yeah.
But, um,
I even had a Puerto Rican festival, he was there.
Yeah, thanks.
Really?
So, um, like I said, if you were to say, do you think Vince's racist?
I say, yeah, but I think TKO came in with a lot of big storylines and a lot of guys
who were stuck into something.
Once some of these start to outplay themselves or they start, you know, listen, I think Carmelo,
at some point, you got to give them the push because Mello was the man in NXT and he's
all talented. You cannot, you can't shy away from him because you just waste them and that's
just a bad opportunity for him.
But I mean, give me like six months, we're in four months.
Give me another two months.
Give me two months and then we'll have this conversation.
And if we got none, then at some point we got to sit back and say, yo, what's up?
Because the Rock is part of TKO, right?
I'm sorry?
The Rock, he's part of TKO, right?
He's part of that.
Yeah, he's on the board.
And his dad was black, right?
He's dead 100% black.
And the mom was Samoan or whatever, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So at some point you got an answer to a yo Rock, like, fuck you doing like you're doing
nothing for the culture.
You're supposed to be the guy to change the stigma of what WWE was, right?
I'm gonna say every black and Hispanic person needs a film, but you've got to push me.
And not even about the build.
I mean, not even.
No, at least let him get on like.
Exactly, let him winning a match in 700 plus days in one and any of the previous views.
In one or one match.
And then the last three shows, not even have one black talent on your show.
Yeah, that makes no sense.
I mean, but like I said, like.
Male wise, male wise, not females because females.
Well, yeah, because the females you got Jade, I think she's still Jade, right?
Yeah, yeah, Jade and Bianca.
And Bianca.
The tag team champions, yep.
Yeah, they're on there.
Bianca is one of the top tier females in WWE out of your book.
What brands?
Then you have the wife of one of the Uso and I forgot her name.
She was the one that was in the Impact 2.
Yeah, I just forgot her name right now.
And you got Bayley, who's Mexican?
Bayley, I thought was Puerto Rican.
No, she's Mexican.
Mexican?
All right, so you got so you got a lot of females who are, you know, and then you
have the champion here, Jax, who's Samoan?
She's terrible though.
So but I mean,
She's fucking terrible.
And ethnic wise, you have the females who are being pushed and have belts.
If it wasn't for the fact that she's part of that fucking bloodline, she'd never be in WWE.
It's kind of like Bronte James fucking Bob, right?
If that kid wasn't LeBron's son, he's the worst player in three season history.
I will love him.
Just have him come in game one.
Have him do that history thing that they're trying to do, father and son.
Take the picture and then send them back to G League.
And once he doesn't work out there, call them and bring somebody who deserves that spot.
Because we all know, we all know the reason why he's in the Lakers.
It's no secret.
It's for that purpose, father and son.
First time, first time and probably the last time that was going to happen.
Freedom.
So, you know, which is cool.
Just have him do the picture, do it out of you together for two points.
Send them down and send them back to the G League and then go from there.
We all know he doesn't deserve that spot.
There's better players than him out there.
That lost spot is supposed to him.
But we're not a basketball.
So yeah, so that's just.
The Rock, listen, the Rock has to do better.
This is all there is to it.
The Rock, with him being the head of the Rock, though, is, you know, he's part of the board.
Yes.
But other people are also part of the board, not just the Rock.
You know what, though, and I have no idea.
None of us, anyone that tells you that they do is full of shit.
If you're not part of that, that fucking, that board meeting, you don't know shit.
You got to admit that if just say that you're part of that board, right?
Say you're part of TKO as a owner, not even an owner, as part of the company that's in there.
And just say, maybe you are, just say, you're muffin martini is the fan.
There's no way that you sit back and go, Hey, Rock, what do you think the best idea for this is fake?
Because you, you're an industry guy.
You understand everything that we don't.
We can have an idea.
We can throw our two pennies into it.
But this guy knows he's been in the locker room.
He's been around Vince.
He's been around Hunter.
He's been, you know, he's been around the XFL and now it's the, whatever, when they merge with the USFL or
he's in big boards and big things where he's making big moves.
Oh, I trust his opinion.
But at some point you got to sit back and go, Yo, you hit a rumbling.
They're saying that we might be racing.
No, exactly.
Oh, we're prejudiced or something.
So, you know, gotta get somebody say something, call somebody.
Hey, I need somebody from here to win.
I mean, it's been 700 plus days.
Black one on one match has happened where a black person has won a damn match.
So, I mean, come on now.
I don't know.
I don't know how to count and I count in Spanish.
700 plus days sounds like over a year and a half to me.
So, but one more, one more, one more news, bit of news before we say goodbye.
Avan, which is the daughter of the Rock, tweeted out that she has retired from wrestling
and will only focus on being the general manager of my family.
I thought that she bended that.
No, she was still an active wrestler.
And then when they broke up the skism, they said, what are we going to do with her?
So, they didn't put her at the GM and she don't do.
She has done a tremendous job.
Yeah, no, I know that.
She fits perfect as the GM.
But let's be honest and I'm going to say this, if she wasn't the Rock's daughter,
she wouldn't be fired two years ago.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
But, but, but as of what we've seen her transition from in ring to on screen character as a GM.
Yes.
If she takes another leap, right?
Like if she goes one more, like if she takes another step up, right?
She goes to another level.
You're looking at her because listen, hey, Stephanie McMahon, lover, whatever.
Stephanie, her fucking thing.
If this girl can be anything like that.
Yeah, she can move up to the main roster and be somebody, you know, after one of those guys
retired or at least, you know, one of the GMs there.
But yeah, but she would have been fired two years ago if when she got her second injury
or when the thing broke up.
I'll say honey, you're gone.
You're part of the people who just let go.
You do your, your name is on there too.
Well, yeah, that right there is an example of nepotism at its best because damn it,
that girl, whoo, her wrestling abilities.
This trade.
Once again, like I said, you always, you always get the gene of the wrestler from your parents,
hopefully.
And a lot of times we've seen that happen and they have surpassed their parents when
they become wrestlers.
It happened to the Bonairex when they're all the Bonairex except for the girl, Lacey Bonairex.
The best broken one.
She's gorgeous.
Well, my God, she was a horrible wrestler and you could tell the gene just whoop, whoop.
And hopefully it'll drop in her daughter or her son 20 years from now when, you know,
when the baby's old enough because I'm pretty sure she, the baby's got to be like, what, like
close to 10 now.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
Because it's been a while since she was, you know, active wrestler with TNA.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's been a long time.
15 years.
So nine years she'll be up there.
Lacey Bonairex, a fifth generation wrestler.
That'll be awesome.
And I'm pretty sure the baby will have the genes.
Yeah.
It missed Lacey.
And in this point, we all said the right, oh my God, the right house of daughter.
Oh my God, we can't wait.
Oh, she's going to be, oh no.
Because we all wanted him to have a son and he got three daughters.
So, yeah.
So the son of them has to be the rock though.
Yeah.
And unfortunately the genes definitely jumped over.
It didn't skip Ava.
It just literally jumped over her and maybe hit one of the two girls that he
has with his wife.
So hopefully 15 years from now we're still alive and we go, that's the right daughter.
The second one, that's the one that can wrestle because the first one was horrible.
You know what?
We can come back on a podcast.
I told you that G was going to hit her.
You know what?
Let me, I had to say this.
Up in here, what we've always done is we keep it real.
Like it, don't like it, whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like we've always stuck true to what we think.
We've had arguments about our stance on things.
But unlike a million other wrestling podcasts who blow smoke up everybody's ass is going to tell you
you know that everything is perfect.
Everything is great.
They're too pussy to say the real shit of what they really feel.
You'll never have that problem here.
Right?
Like you'll always hear our opinion.
We're not going to sugarcoat it.
We're not going to fucking kiss nobody's ass.
We're going to keep it 1000 with you.
It's one thing that I love doing this on here with muffins because we are who we are.
We're going to say it how we say it.
If you like it, don't like it, whatever.
But it's just the way it is.
Like we don't know how to be corny, right?
Like it's not our DNA to be wack.
It's just not what it is.
So my brother, my bad, I just had to get that off my chest.
Oh, you know, please tell us because I've been fired from all the jazz from being too vocal.
Oh, yo dude, that's like, I won't even go into
some shit recently, but I like to tell people and listen,
when I worked universal, I had three bosses, right?
Besides the main main guy who was my home.
So we I got into a little debate with my boss and she tried to tell me I don't like her because
she's a female.
I said, nah, I come from a single mother.
You being a female got nothing to do with it.
I just will never let you talk to me like you talk to these motherfuckers because you make
some of these people fucking cry.
I wish you would.
And she looked at me and she was like, you know, I respect that.
I don't like you.
You're a hell of a fucking worker.
You don't like me.
I said, you're a hell of a fucking worker.
It is what it is right before COVID shuts you down.
She came over to me, said, yo, Rob, COVID's about to fuck shit up.
I don't know what to tell you, but I want to personally thank you because you're the best
person I've ever worked with.
And she was in a like fucking late 50s.
This lady was shit.
She was like, you're the best and most loyal worker I've ever had in my life.
I said, yo, I respect the shit out of you.
Even if we didn't like each other, we understood what we did and we stay out of each other's
way because of the best of business.
So I don't know how to be thanked.
I'm going to tell you what it is.
If you don't like it, tell me to get the fuck out.
We won't do this here.
Right?
This is all fucking platform.
Fuck you.
The views and expressions of Jeff are not necessarily the same views of me or the other
listeners of the Urban Wrestling Network.
I just have to say the PSA.
So anything else you'd like to add before we go?
Nah, man, we good.
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That's why he did it early for myself.
Mr. Muffins, Martinez.
Until next week, we outta here.
Dooses.