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I'm walking different talking different love one seeded difference. I'm gonna talk it isn't this thing

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I guess I'm seeing two colors stealing this for suckers the porter Jerry Heller's in the busters

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Salute the good fellas in the husband

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Yo, that's my shit mr. Gray cloud y'all know what it is muffins Martinez chef listen

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I have no idea what's gonna happen. I literally tried to say yo

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What are we gonna talk about cuz even telling me earlier? Yo, we got some topics. Yeah, it should be quick

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That's all I know. I tried it right before getting on. I was like, yo, what are we gonna talk like that?

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Yeah, we'll talk during the show. I have no idea. So this is definitely gonna be super organic

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I don't even know what promotion we're talking

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Hey, that's the that's the beauty of wrestling

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We're gonna throw out there and go from there

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But the first thing I wanted to say is don't forget to subscribe to the urban wrestling network hit the like button

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Hit that notification button and every type of button that you see anywhere to make sure you get us

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40 reasons are

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Just living life except for Jeff. I just trying to duck all the hurricane down in Florida

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Back to in a row and the man is doing good. So thank God for that. So he's here

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So let's go into this first thing that I want to say is for the news is MLW

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November 9th, we're having the apocalypto show down in Chicago and they went out and they already

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Q&A or a meet and greet

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with every freaking CMLL star that's coming to the show on November 9th

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So from 6 to 645 if you were there and you got your first row tickets

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You'll be able to see mystical

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What's this guy's name and a hen she'll a bunch of other guys like a star juniors star the father

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Everybody else would you sing on their show for the last year who is gonna be on this show coming up?

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They will be there for a meeting week

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This will be like I'm pretty sure the only time in the history of CML that if you're there

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Make sure you get some pictures

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By your 8 by 10s by your merchandise because this is gonna be huge

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So that's the only MLW news that I have because unfortunately when hurricane Helene hit

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They had to close their show and cancel it from that Saturday and they never made up anything for the rest of the month

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So we're waiting for the rubber knife to sit there and give you our

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Faces of what is going to go and watch the show along but

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MLW news that we got there chef

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So what's the next once the next live comes will definitely be on here?

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You know talk some shit have some fun with it. Yes, I did last time

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Yeah, yeah, and and just to give MLW just a little bit of praise because you know, I'm really critical on it

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There's a lot of really positive things if done right, which is MLW's kind of problem

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Right now we got the road horsemen that look like they're about to take shit by storm

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There's a lot of great opportunity with our son

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CW Anderson who I didn't know a lot about and they put a mic on this guy promo was fired

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They're on a fucking rooftop. Wow. Just to mention he has no relation

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whatsoever to the Anderson brothers just to make it no

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, the only reason why they did this was be for two reasons one

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he looks like an Anderson back then and

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When they came and went try out

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he wrestled and looked just like an Anderson and

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They asked one of the Anderson's back then. I don't know if it was Jean or Lars

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We would like to make this like one of your cousins and they say, okay, let me see on what he got

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They got him to look at him and they say, yep, we will take him.

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We'll inherit him.

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So he basically was stemmed by one of the Anderson's 30 years ago.

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So that's why he became an Anderson.

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See, what I like about this group, now I know this is you,

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you're a horseman guy through and through.

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The mix between obviously CW Anderson is what we call like an elder statesman,

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the veteran, right?

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But Bobby Fish is no spring chicken either.

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He's a veteran and then you got two young guys which PRG is absolutely amazing and

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he's been killing it.

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And then I think Brock Anderson is the son and he's young.

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So you have veterans that can coach up the young guys and bring them up.

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MLW is in a really good place with that.

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Contra unit is obviously still killing it.

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Minoru Suzuki, Quantag team champions and Janiakai is holding the women's belt.

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So there's a lot of things in a positive way.

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But unfortunately, we're not going to probably see anyone at the Chicago tapings.

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That's not part of CMLL or some bookstore fashion.

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If we do cool, if not, listen to Chicago crowd, they're not there for

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the MLW product, right?

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Like they're there for those guys.

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It's the Latino crowd and they want their luchadors and they're going to get it.

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MLW smart with this.

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Just wanted to give them a little love before we get off of what we were doing.

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Yeah, so that's the MLW news.

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We're going to shift now to AEW.

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And this is the one of the questions that I want to ask Jeff once I give him the

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little background of what's going on.

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So we've seen a couple of weeks ago and we've seen our rest of Dream,

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a new group that's been kind of taking over AEW.

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And it's the group of John Moxley with Marina Shafir,

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the Pact the bastard, Daniel Castellano, and then William Yuda.

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Now they don't have a name yet, but I like to call them the paradigm shift.

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Because of his last, his deity move.

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I say, let me just call them that.

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But they be taking over, they laid down the rules,

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they Moxley defeated Mr. Brian Danyson.

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our rest of Dream.

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And you saw some of the rest of us who came out and they kind of milked it

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afterwards and they dropped the footage afterwards, you know,

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crying and taking them back to the ambulance or the hospital.

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So you kind of see something going on there.

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And the good thing that I like and I respect about Danielson is that the whole

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time for months, he's been working without a contract with AEW.

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Oh wow, well, he had no contract.

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This was all just handshake deals.

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And I promise you I'm going to do this.

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And we know, I mean, I don't know Brian Danyson like that.

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But you could tell he's one of those old fashioned, you know,

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that we did a handshake deal.

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I'm going to honor this.

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We're going to finish this the right way.

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You know, because when he said that once I lose this title, I'm retired.

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So he's officially retired from in-ring competition.

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And the beatdown just kind of cemented it more.

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Like, you know, now he's gone.

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And like, if he comes back, he'll be sometime next year to do something

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small here and there.

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But we won't see him active wrestler again for a long time, if anything.

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I doubt that he'll go to the new WWE with, you know, with Triple H.

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I doubt it.

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I hope he doesn't.

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I hope he stays in AEW, stays retired, helps out and stuff like that.

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You know, do some special things with the new guys, all about and stuff like that.

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But we've been seeing Moxley give you this amazing promos in a pickup truck

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and the back, the jumping people that doing this.

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He says something that stuck in my head.

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You either are with us, you either join us.

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And what we're trying to do, are you are against us.

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They started with a dark order.

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They did a beatdown with other dark order and who else was to beat down?

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Oh, a tough flight.

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So with all these things that is being said and done and what he just said that,

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you either with us, you either join us or you are against us.

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My question to Chip is this.

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Since back in 2001 or maybe even 2000, there was the NWO and the NWO, the beatdowns.

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And the NWO said the same thing.

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You either join us or you are against us.

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And you remember that episode at the end when wrestlers were coming out,

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ice strings, they're attacking, no turns on ice string.

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Marcus Bagwell and other guy, Scotty Riggs and Bagwell turns to Scotty Riggs.

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And breaks the tag team up and you can see that.

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Do you think this is a second coming of the NWO?

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Because I know we've seen different fabrics, different, you know, companies try to do the whole thing

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with people in a group.

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And then the first thing people say, oh, they're doing the new NWA, but they never live up to that.

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They try that with BCC and TNA.

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They try that with the beatdown.

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What was it? The BCC? BCC.

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BCC, they try that with the World Elite where there was all, every young with a bunch of different guys

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from different countries, they try that.

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We've seen it happen in NWO.

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But it has never lived up to that. It has never looked like that.

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Do you think this one here looks and you think it might be that new NWO for the new generation

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that has never lived to that where we were in the 30s or 20s and we're doing this all day?

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Suck it. You know, stuff like that in the late 20s or the 30s.

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Do you think the paradigm shift is the new NWO?

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So let me play double advocate because I think it could work because if anyone understands the vibe of NWO,

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I think it would be Tony Khan, right? He's a big WCW guy and he lived off of that.

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So I think that as we were fans, meet yourself.

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We enjoy NWO for what it was, right?

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Like him being at events and him being there, it's a whole different vibe.

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You know that you went to wrestling events. I went to wrestling events.

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When you're at a show, it's a whole different vibe.

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You're also invested more than just sitting on your couch and watching it.

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So I think that if anyone could make this happen to Tim, my only knock is we've never and will never see an NWO again

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because you had the whole, listen, you had Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, right?

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Like, I mean not Ric Flair, Lex Luger. Sorry, Lex Luger.

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Sting joins later.

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Those were guys that joined later.

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But like if you start, it was Hogan, Nash, Paul, Six Fuck.

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Yeah. Now everyone except for X-Pac or Six Pack or one, two, three kid, whatever the people might know,

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but everyone but him to me is a certified legendary wrestler, right?

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Like, so it's hard to mimic that, especially even if you don't like Hulk Hogan or you do.

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Hulk Hogan, I don't, the only person I could say through Hulk Hogan to now that I would be able to put with Hogan

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would probably be Cena, right?

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Like, Cena's the only guy that if he turned heel might be able to have that effect like Hogan.

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But that roster was so legendary.

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Now the thing is, I like Moxley.

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I think Moxley in brain, it's great.

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Adding the Shapiro girl, she's not just looks, this girl will fuck you up.

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So I like everything about her, right?

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Like, they have to take it serious.

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And I mean this from Tony Khan and whoever's part of his creative team.

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If you're going to go the NWO route, you can't have NWO looking fire and you can't have the young bucks

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still doing their goofy thing.

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Eventually they got to get fucked up too, right?

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Like you can't play both sides of the fence.

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If you're going to have your new NWO, it's got to be annihilation.

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You got at one point, remember like, what was the show?

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NWO takeover or something.

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Remember they got rid of the WCW, the NWO thing?

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Like you got to go 100% all in on this faction.

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Yeah, you had the propaganda papers coming down and we had the whole banners.

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And they had their own pay review.

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NWO, what the hell was that?

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Oh my god, I forgot the name of the pay review.

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It was a takeover?

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NWO sold out.

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Sold out.

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Sold out.

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You're right.

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And they had that pay review for what?

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Two, three years they had and it was all NWO people winning all their matches.

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They had their own, yeah, I mean, but I agree with you about the young bucks.

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And the funny thing is two or three months ago, Dave beat the shit out of Tony Khan.

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Well, he's at the draft with, you know, Tony Khan's neck.

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And now it's just like, they forgot about that.

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And when the last beating they were doing this week, when they were jumping the dark order

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empire party and stuff like that, they actually backed off and didn't want to go in and help

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anybody out.

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Well, they actually were on the backtracking of the ring with Jack Perry and they're going like,

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yo, this is not anything having to do with us.

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So let's get out of here.

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They were confronted by Daniel Garcia in the back empire party about why didn't they help?

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And they said, this ain't got nothing to do with us.

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It's supposed to be the EVPs.

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It's supposed to be like, you know, you started this for five years and you're just standing

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back and they said, yo, let us go.

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So do you think that they will join?

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Oh, I hope not because.

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They're not joining the AEW side in the future.

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I mean, they live through my AEW side because look at anyone from and we're basically up

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then WL, right?

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Yeah, there was no slapstick goofy character, right?

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Everybody was a bad ass at NWL.

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Everybody, even if you don't have a talking part, you look angry.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it was everything was meant to fit everyone.

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I mean, even if it's just macho man sliding off the limo, the front of the limo and they're

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doing everybody's going crazy.

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You got Dennis Ron.

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It was a fucking spectacle, right?

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Like what NWO did, they were violating fucking the commentators.

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They would kick them off, talk crazy.

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They had an NWO referee.

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I mean, one of the most iconic things in my memory of wrestling fandom is when Ramas

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Thiru gets launched into the truck, right?

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Like shit is like to this day he got darted against that damn 18-liter back of the, oh

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my God, dude, like that was still every time you say that I could still see that in my

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brain because he just got picked up.

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He got blown away.

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He looked like a little mini dutch.

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I mean, it felt they killed them.

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You had the police involvement at times like this shit was wild.

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Nobody was goofy.

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Young books are a goofy act, right?

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Like, I don't want slastic.

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I want these guys to feel like there's no rules and the only rules is our rules, whatever

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we're going to do.

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It mostly fits that.

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It mostly fits that I'm going to beat the shit out of you.

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I don't even got to talk much.

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We're just going to, I'm going to violate you.

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So I like that aspect.

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I think the Shapiro girl, we've seen her in impact or she did her thing.

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So I'm like, yo, they got a lot of nice pieces.

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The wheel of Utica.

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He's super talented, right?

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There's a lot of things in play.

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Stomping out a legendary iconic wrestler, Daniel Bryan from Ring of Honor to WWE to

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AEW as a champ.

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This guy has won everywhere.

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Right?

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Like he has done everything.

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That is a statement piece that no one is safe.

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We'll take your top guys out.

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This, you have to keep going with this.

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I think it could be, but the name's got to make sense, right?

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Like if they go with your name, I'm cool with it.

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But it can't just be a random name.

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It's got to be something where you hear and you're like, five.

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Do you see any tag team breaking up to join that new group?

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If, if they happens where they start growing and they do a show where like either you join

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us now or we're, or you're done and you see people coming in.

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Ken Macdon beats the shit out of what's his name.

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Who?

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Um, uh, what's his partner?

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Um, Ray Phoenix.

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Oh, I think those guys are gone.

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No, didn't one of them just resign?

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Well, no, he got his time added on, but I think, and that was on Phoenix.

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I don't think, I don't think, uh, Pentize will be there.

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You know, I think his contract expired and then they added a Phoenix time because

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of, of the hurt.

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He was disabled for a while.

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So they added that time on top of his contract.

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So you want to leave?

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Oh, you're leaving yet?

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He's the only five, six months.

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So we're going to add that on.

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Yeah.

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So they kind of screwed them there.

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And then you said they stomped out top flight, right?

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That just dumped up top flight.

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And I see, I see the, the one guy, our, our, our reality, whatever his name is.

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Lee Marriard.

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Well, no, who?

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Lee Marriard.

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No, not him.

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No, no, his last name is Ariadio or something like that.

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Not the two brothers, but the other guy who's, who's all with them.

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Yeah.

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I, I see him kind of joining them.

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If that happens, I see Daniel Garcia turning heel because he's better as the heel and maybe

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just he took his shit now and then later on you see him kind of jumping the ship,

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uh, private party, maybe, uh, you got to break one of them up though,

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unless you're going to do the Harlem heat thing.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's what I'm saying.

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Like, like they did with, uh, American males, which is, yeah,

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that will, and, and, and the rigs and ice train and, uh, you know,

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carton Nord, they come down and they turn those guys.

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What's that big guy?

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He used to be part of Impact Wrestling.

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Then he came over there.

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Yeah. Kill switch or the, the, the, the lesser guy.

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No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Um, uh, big white dude.

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Um, oh, um, that would, that's what, uh, Phil Jericho in the learning tree that he was

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part of the tag team we found that more on a one.

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No, no, no, he was in Lucha Underground too.

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The real big guy looks like you know, Stell Royce.

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Damn.

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Yeah. Remember he wanted to leave and then he stayed because maybe he had nothing for him.

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Who? Cage?

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Yeah. Brian Cage.

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Oh, geez.

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Now, now he's part of the Kata family now.

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How that happened?

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Nobody knows, but he just showed up one day on the interview with Kata's and now

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with father Kata's family.

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Like no one knows how this guy joined that family, but he's part of the family now.

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Okay. So an MJF has to be a loner, right?

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Like, well, yeah, it's MJ good body against the university and now we're Adam Cole.

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So, but you'll need some big names like you said, like Adam Cole and MJF type name.

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Like someone that's a top tier.

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If Moxley can swing MJF, that shifts the ties completely because a lot of people might not

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know MJF's work from MLW.

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You know what I mean?

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So they think he's an AEW guy.

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Like they think that they're the ones who made him.

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So if you got your fan base that doesn't know his work, you know, before AEW and you consider

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him an AEW guy, I think you have to switch him over, send him with this group and be the

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anti AEW.

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Yeah. Don't forget.

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Don't forget the dynasty.

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No, listen, people sleep on the dynasty, right?

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Like, phenomenal.

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I like, obviously we're big dynasty guys.

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But my team right there, the dynasty.

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But yeah, on some real shit, you're going to have to keep me involved with this because

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I like where this is going.

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Like I said, I want to see it work because I think the closest thing we see to

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NW, you always probably bullet club, right?

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Yeah. But that's your opinion.

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So a lot of people don't see it.

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Yeah.

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You know, your black and white logo and, you know, they do.

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Exactly.

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And I think if you want to get that feel, like you said, you have to come there one day with

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some loud music coming out, some shit coming out from the Raptors and have them there and

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take like 15 minutes of air time just talking shit.

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And they listen, they got to be unified, right?

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Like everybody can be wearing different stuff.

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That's like you're doing this new feel.

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That logo has to be on everyone.

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It's got to be where all bought in.

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We believe this is what we're doing.

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Otherwise, it's never going to work.

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That's the problem with a lot of factions is guys wear their own wrestling attire or whatever.

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No, you've got to look the part.

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And the reason why I ask is because at the beatdown that I've seen

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two clothes to end the year, like the same thing.

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And I'm thinking that it's only four or five guys, four guys and a girl who are doing the

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beating, people come out and they still get beat.

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And then they jump out the back and they leave.

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And then the problem by John Massey.

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And then when he said, either they're going to join us or you're against us.

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And I'm like, oh, that sounds too much like end of great days.

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Hey, not one episode where everybody just went crazy turning on each other.

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And nobody knew who the hell was working for.

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So I don't want to see that.

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See, when you first said it, it reminded me of state property.

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And so you said NWO, that you get down to lay down.

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And I was like, oh, this is where we're going.

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Then you said NWO.

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It's all right.

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Let me let me fall back because I know where I'm going.

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All right.

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So you got anything else to say about that?

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Oh, no.

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No, no, no.

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Listen, I'm excited.

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Anything in WO and WO is my favorite faction of all time.

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Yeah.

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That's the reason why I saved this for this because I know I said, well,

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I'll get chef going on the NWO thing.

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All right.

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So our next topic is going to be WWE.

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But we're going to hit NXT.

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The first two weeks, they were loaded with talent.

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They had, you know, they were on the road.

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The first week was in Chicago.

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They had CM Punk.

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Miz was there.

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A couple of things were going on.

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They hit over 950 on the viewership.

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Second week, they were in the San Luis.

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Randy Orton was there.

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The tag team from down under the two Australian guys were there.

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So they did over 900.

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But once again, third episode, they went back home

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for the sales university with a brand new setting, all black, all nice,

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all one color, real nice.

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And I liked it.

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It looks brand new or a brand new channel.

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They did.

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They barely hit 600.

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So my question is this to you.

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Do you think they need to start, they need to bring people from up

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the roster to come down to help them get with the viewership?

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Or folks just need to give it time, have to learn who's working there,

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give them a chance and time people will enjoy what they're seeing with Joe's, the young guys.

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Now, I think that if you want to do the format with Randy Orton in St. Louis,

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CM Punk in Chicago, put whoever, any star that's from a certain place,

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let them go there.

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And I'm sure, listen, Randy Orton being there, he's got family that's still there.

420
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I'm pretty sure he wants to go see his family on a day where normally he couldn't.

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Make it like that.

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I don't care who it is, whatever state you're going to put him, just send someone.

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If it's working, do it until it don't work.

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Because if you keep putting a star and you're getting almost a million views,

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keep going until the fucking wheels come off.

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What's that place called again?

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Sales University?

428
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,700
Yeah, but they get a different name, but.

429
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Look, what's that Orlando where NXT used to be in?

430
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Sales something?

431
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The college?

432
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Sales full sale.

433
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Full sale, full sale.

434
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Full sale, I would say, don't get to send it backwards.

435
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,140
Yeah, so full sale university.

436
00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:17,180
It's a smaller venue, but I'll tell you what, it's got to be smaller than South State 21

437
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for Impact Wrestling.

438
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,060
It's definitely smaller, right?

439
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:25,180
It is always packed, crowds always super fucking fired up.

440
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I'll give it that much, right?

441
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Like you do well, but viewership people might be tired of this shit.

442
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They might not want to see the same faces all the time and, you know, same look.

443
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People like different.

444
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I mean, it's just like in sports, everybody's arena is different.

445
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Yeah, the floors are wood or whatever, or, you know, whatever the whatever sport you're

446
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talking about, but people love different stadiums.

447
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People love different arenas and if people are there, that whole state of up there here,

448
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we went to the show, they, you know, you got to watch, I might be on TV and full sale,

449
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you're not getting that, right?

450
00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:03,660
Like you're getting the same shit all the time.

451
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:07,660
I like full sale, but if it's working, you got to stay until it don't work.

452
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And I mean, listen, we've talked NXT previously.

453
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That roster is phenomenal.

454
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I put, listen, I'll put NXT roster up again.

455
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Damn you, anyway.

456
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And today they announced that they're going to have, they're going to be in Philly sometime

457
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in November and I can't forget what week it is.

458
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And they're going to have NXT show from the ECW.

459
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And God, when I saw that, I'm like, Oh no.

460
00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:38,620
Well, at least there won't be no.

461
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If I see an ECW original guy come up there, I'm going to freak.

462
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:47,980
Maybe, you know what?

463
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:49,980
You'll probably get an RVD, right?

464
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Yes.

465
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You'll probably get an RVD.

466
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I can see that blue meanie.

467
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Fuck no.

468
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We've seen what an MLW, what's this guy who's part of the calling?

469
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Raven.

470
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Raven.

471
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Raven.

472
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Raven look like he's washed.

473
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Wash is a good word.

474
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:10,060
Samman washed.

475
00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:11,660
Samman washed, right?

476
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:18,300
So you need to realize, and I say the only two guys that look, they can still go is Rino.

477
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,300
And RVD.

478
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,300
An RVD.

479
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:26,060
Well, dreamer don't look that bad.

480
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:29,420
I'm pretty sure he's like late 50s.

481
00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:32,780
I'm pretty sure he can't move like that no more.

482
00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:33,740
Let's go.

483
00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:35,580
Well, Rino still doing a second impact, right?

484
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:36,140
Yes.

485
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:36,620
Yep.

486
00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:47,660
And I believe they mentioned he's going to be inducted into the TNA Hall of Fame coming up in two weeks there for Banffa Glory.

487
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:49,580
I mean, did he really do much?

488
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:55,740
He's been there for a long time and he goes and comes back, goes and comes back.

489
00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:57,660
And this time he's been there for a while.

490
00:28:57,660 --> 00:29:00,540
No, I know, but like when we talk, see this is my problem, right?

491
00:29:00,540 --> 00:29:03,180
This is my problem wrestling fans.

492
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:08,540
Well, I hate the fact that everybody wants to use their star.

493
00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:10,300
Not everybody could be a star.

494
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:14,460
And just because you play in the league a long time, don't make you a star.

495
00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:18,380
You could be a good role player and there's nothing wrong with being a good role player.

496
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:21,420
Everyone needs that, but not everyone is a star.

497
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:30,220
Like, so when I think of Hall of Fame, I don't want to hear guys that are multi-time champions who have done mad work.

498
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:31,020
Like, right?

499
00:29:31,020 --> 00:29:33,900
You obviously know I'm not a fucking Eddie Edwards fan.

500
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:40,860
If I heard right now Eddie Edwards going to the TNA Impact, whatever they call it, Hall of Fame, I'm like hell fucking yeah, he deserves it.

501
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:43,020
He's a multi-tag team champion.

502
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:45,180
And he's been there for like 10 years.

503
00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,740
Yeah, he's a multi-world champion.

504
00:29:47,740 --> 00:29:52,060
Like, he's put the work in and he's done it on a higher level.

505
00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:56,060
He's went against the Lashley's, the EC3's, the James Storms.

506
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:58,060
You know, he's had those matches.

507
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:00,780
So absolutely, I would say that.

508
00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:03,260
But I would say fucking Rhino's that guy.

509
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:08,380
They just tried to go with Rhino.

510
00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:09,660
They sure for that.

511
00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:13,420
And it's a fucking slap in the face that James Storms still not retired.

512
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:16,620
Listen, James Storm is a fucking TNA Hall of Famer.

513
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:19,900
He's not out of Rhino.

514
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,740
I would have put him in this year if that had no choice.

515
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:24,700
Like, who we got?

516
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:25,260
Rhino?

517
00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:25,900
No, no, no.

518
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,180
Give me James Storm.

519
00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:31,180
James Storm has done, he was one of the originals of TNA.

520
00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:35,500
I mean, he was there for a long time, won multiple titles.

521
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:36,860
Yeah, definitely.

522
00:30:36,860 --> 00:30:38,620
And two different tag teams.

523
00:30:38,620 --> 00:30:41,980
America's most wanted and beer money.

524
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:45,180
Listen, and while we say that, right?

525
00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:51,660
Anyone who, if you don't know beer money, or like you might know the new WAC version,

526
00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:55,500
we're talking beer money when he first signed up with Bobby Roode.

527
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:55,980
Yes.

528
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:58,220
Or the America's most wanted to meet.

529
00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:58,700
Most wanted.

530
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,500
If our group would have won a TNA's greatest faction of all time.

531
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:01,980
Yes.

532
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:04,220
Like, they put mad working.

533
00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:05,900
A guy like Bobby Roode should be there.

534
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:07,020
I don't think he's in WDF.

535
00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:07,500
We know more.

536
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:07,900
I don't know what.

537
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:08,700
Well, he's still there.

538
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:09,900
He's working behind the scenes.

539
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:11,500
Yeah, he's working behind the scenes.

540
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:11,980
Okay.

541
00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:13,020
Well, even better.

542
00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:13,500
Shit.

543
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:18,860
Well, remember, because of the neck thing, I don't think you're ever going to lose that job.

544
00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:23,580
I'm pretty sure that he's going to take care of him for a long time until he says,

545
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:24,060
I'm done.

546
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:24,620
I want to leave.

547
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:27,180
He's working behind the scenes.

548
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:27,580
So, yeah.

549
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:32,300
But there are so many guys that you would think, holy shit, right?

550
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,700
Like, I don't know.

551
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,180
So back to the easy the real arena.

552
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:41,900
I'm going to freak out if they mention anybody like that.

553
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:48,460
And anybody, I will turn on the TV off if the blue really pops up on any stupid thing.

554
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:50,300
Oh, that's a nice story thing.

555
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,900
I will like, no, I'm done.

556
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,900
I'm out.

557
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,900
I'm not doing it.

558
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,500
I'm not doing it because you know how I feel about ECW.

559
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:03,020
ECW was the shit a long time ago.

560
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,420
It's been dead for 20 years.

561
00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:06,700
Not ECW.

562
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:07,580
Not ECW.

563
00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:09,020
That Uncle Vince brought back.

564
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:09,820
No, no, no.

565
00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:11,180
That shit was crap.

566
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:17,020
I'm talking about ECW from back then before Uncle Vince bought it.

567
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:20,140
ECW had been dead for over 20 years.

568
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:25,420
And listen, before ECW got really, really popping on like, where you could watch on TV,

569
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:26,540
it fizzled fast.

570
00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:27,980
It was hot.

571
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:32,620
Like you had the locals from Philly, Queens, like you had all that.

572
00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:38,060
By the time it really hit TV, it was already on the decline for money and everything.

573
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:41,420
Like it didn't last long on TV.

574
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,420
Yeah.

575
00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:46,780
I mean, yeah, man, and people still holding on to that.

576
00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:50,940
No, no, no.

577
00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:54,860
So listen, Mets fans are still holding on to 86.

578
00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:56,700
Who?

579
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,460
The Mets, they still holding on like fans.

580
00:32:58,460 --> 00:33:00,860
They still holding on to 86 brother.

581
00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:03,580
Hey, not to say anything.

582
00:33:03,580 --> 00:33:06,700
They made it farther than anybody thought they were going to do this year.

583
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,140
They did.

584
00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:10,140
I'll tip my hat to them.

585
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:15,340
They did because there for a while, they were floating on the losing side.

586
00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:17,820
And that last month, they went hot.

587
00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:22,460
They got into the wall cart and they flew the wall cart through everything.

588
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:30,940
And thanks to that one Puerto Rican there, Lin Doer hitting Grand Slam, playing above everything.

589
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:33,180
He did his shit.

590
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:34,140
They took him there.

591
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:40,540
And but, you know, when you got a $300 million payroll with the Dodgers and you got the best

592
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:43,260
player in the whole planet, it's Jorge O'Tany.

593
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:47,100
Dude, there's so much you could do.

594
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:53,660
And the best in trade, Miss Season trade for was Tommy Edmond.

595
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:54,540
Yeah.

596
00:33:54,540 --> 00:34:01,740
Lord, that do how 11 hits, 11 hits in that deal still in those games.

597
00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:09,420
11 hits that you don't go off like that, you know, unless you you're trying to prove some

598
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:13,980
shit like I want to contract after this year, somebody got a pay me.

599
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:23,420
And now you got the mega event of the year Yankees, your team against Dodgers to $300

600
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,260
million payrolls.

601
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:27,100
You got all tiny versus judge.

602
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,340
Soto versus what's the guy's name?

603
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:32,460
Mookie Betts.

604
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:39,500
And whoever pitching last longest is going to go.

605
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:44,460
You got the evil empire going up against what you call this other place.

606
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:47,420
But yeah, I don't know what you call the Dodgers.

607
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,580
But yeah, but anyway, this is not a baseball thing.

608
00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:54,700
You have anything else to add about the WDLE NXT?

609
00:34:54,700 --> 00:34:55,820
No, sir.

610
00:34:55,820 --> 00:34:58,220
So one more question before we go.

611
00:34:58,220 --> 00:35:01,260
And I asked this question to camera last week.

612
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:04,220
So don't do it.

613
00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:05,340
You're going to stay in the lead.

614
00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:15,100
There been over 700 plus days that a black athlete or black talent has not won a one on

615
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:20,860
one match on any PLE since Vince McMahon.

616
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:26,940
So Uncle Vince was the last one a black person won a one on one match.

617
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:31,260
This TKO2 goal has been over 700 plus days.

618
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:41,900
And the last four PLEs between Smackdown and Raw, not one black talent male has been on

619
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:42,700
the show.

620
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:46,860
Well, I think a lot of that has to do with the storylines.

621
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:56,860
So the question was, do you think there's a little black holding back of black talent?

622
00:35:56,860 --> 00:36:03,740
A little prejudice, a little racism, because they even asked Triple H the question on the

623
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:07,100
last PLE and he said the same thing you said right now on the head.

624
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:15,420
But after Bobby Lashley left, who do you have that you could push on the main roster?

625
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:18,220
You have the Street Profits Tag Team.

626
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,980
You got Artruth, who's the coming act.

627
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:25,900
You have who else do you have?

628
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,380
Then I had the names on my head early enough I got.

629
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:30,780
Oh, the new day.

630
00:36:32,620 --> 00:36:36,940
I mean, the last guy you have me when the championship was coffee.

631
00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:39,260
And you saw what happened when he lost it.

632
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:43,100
So right there, that's five names of black talent.

633
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,860
Is it Carmelo operating?

634
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:49,340
Carmelo's up, but he's still getting his feet wet.

635
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:50,220
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

636
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:51,900
Can't really go crazy with him yet.

637
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:57,820
Now, if you go into NXT, you got a bunch of them, but they're going through the process now.

638
00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:07,100
I mean, to be fair, like if you would have said, do I think WWE's racist before T.A.L.

639
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,900
because you're Uncle Vince Haddle.

640
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:10,460
Uncle Vince did.

641
00:37:10,460 --> 00:37:12,300
I know, I know, but we know Vince.

642
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:13,260
And it has to happen.

643
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:13,580
Wow.

644
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:16,060
It has to happen since Uncle Vince left.

645
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:16,700
No, I hear it.

646
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:18,700
Over 700 plus days.

647
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:23,580
Vince is always, he was also the guy who didn't want to put a belt on a black or Hispanic champion either.

648
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:31,020
So outside of like Eddie Guerrero and then because Eddie Guerrero passed away, Raymond Sturrio,

649
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,220
you never really seen it.

650
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:35,580
To Priest Holmes.

651
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:37,900
Priest Holmes.

652
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:40,860
Oh, well, yeah, I think that was on the TKO though.

653
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:42,780
Priest Holmes is the running back for the Kansas City G.

654
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:44,220
Oh my God, Seth Priest Holmes.

655
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:48,700
Bonus man, Martina, but what's the name?

656
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:49,340
Damian Priest.

657
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:50,540
Who?

658
00:37:50,540 --> 00:37:51,180
Damian Priest.

659
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:53,020
Damian Priest, yeah, I'm Jesus.

660
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:53,980
Yeah, Priest Holmes.

661
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:58,380
I'm like, I was like, what's with the Kansas City G throwback show?

662
00:37:58,380 --> 00:37:59,260
I'm sorry, man.

663
00:38:00,460 --> 00:38:03,820
So I was talking about the beatdown we got yesterday by your Buffalo Bills.

664
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:05,740
Jesus.

665
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:11,020
So, I mean, yeah, I mean, also, you know, Salute to Damian Priest is always at fucking Yakin

666
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:12,060
Stadium, all of a sudden.

667
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:12,700
Yeah.

668
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:13,500
But, um,

669
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,060
I even had a Puerto Rican festival, he was there.

670
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:16,780
Yeah, thanks.

671
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:17,740
Really?

672
00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:21,900
So, um, like I said, if you were to say, do you think Vince's racist?

673
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:27,820
I say, yeah, but I think TKO came in with a lot of big storylines and a lot of guys

674
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:29,740
who were stuck into something.

675
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:36,140
Once some of these start to outplay themselves or they start, you know, listen, I think Carmelo,

676
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:41,580
at some point, you got to give them the push because Mello was the man in NXT and he's

677
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:46,860
all talented. You cannot, you can't shy away from him because you just waste them and that's

678
00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,700
just a bad opportunity for him.

679
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:52,700
But I mean, give me like six months, we're in four months.

680
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:53,580
Give me another two months.

681
00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:56,220
Give me two months and then we'll have this conversation.

682
00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:00,540
And if we got none, then at some point we got to sit back and say, yo, what's up?

683
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:02,220
Because the Rock is part of TKO, right?

684
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,300
I'm sorry?

685
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,740
The Rock, he's part of TKO, right?

686
00:39:05,740 --> 00:39:06,460
He's part of that.

687
00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:08,380
Yeah, he's on the board.

688
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:09,740
And his dad was black, right?

689
00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:11,340
He's dead 100% black.

690
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,740
And the mom was Samoan or whatever, right?

691
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:14,460
Yes.

692
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:15,500
Okay.

693
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:20,620
So at some point you got an answer to a yo Rock, like, fuck you doing like you're doing

694
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:21,980
nothing for the culture.

695
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:26,860
You're supposed to be the guy to change the stigma of what WWE was, right?

696
00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:31,980
I'm gonna say every black and Hispanic person needs a film, but you've got to push me.

697
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:33,820
And not even about the build.

698
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:35,020
I mean, not even.

699
00:39:35,020 --> 00:39:36,620
No, at least let him get on like.

700
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:42,940
Exactly, let him winning a match in 700 plus days in one and any of the previous views.

701
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:44,380
In one or one match.

702
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:49,980
And then the last three shows, not even have one black talent on your show.

703
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:51,900
Yeah, that makes no sense.

704
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:53,980
I mean, but like I said, like.

705
00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:57,100
Male wise, male wise, not females because females.

706
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,700
Well, yeah, because the females you got Jade, I think she's still Jade, right?

707
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,220
Yeah, yeah, Jade and Bianca.

708
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:03,020
And Bianca.

709
00:40:03,020 --> 00:40:04,540
The tag team champions, yep.

710
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:06,780
Yeah, they're on there.

711
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:10,300
Bianca is one of the top tier females in WWE out of your book.

712
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:11,180
What brands?

713
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:16,140
Then you have the wife of one of the Uso and I forgot her name.

714
00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:17,820
She was the one that was in the Impact 2.

715
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:20,940
Yeah, I just forgot her name right now.

716
00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:22,540
And you got Bayley, who's Mexican?

717
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:25,420
Bayley, I thought was Puerto Rican.

718
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,620
No, she's Mexican.

719
00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:27,100
Mexican?

720
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:34,380
All right, so you got so you got a lot of females who are, you know, and then you

721
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:37,660
have the champion here, Jax, who's Samoan?

722
00:40:38,620 --> 00:40:39,820
She's terrible though.

723
00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:40,940
So but I mean,

724
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:42,380
She's fucking terrible.

725
00:40:42,380 --> 00:40:47,340
And ethnic wise, you have the females who are being pushed and have belts.

726
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:52,780
If it wasn't for the fact that she's part of that fucking bloodline, she'd never be in WWE.

727
00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:55,580
It's kind of like Bronte James fucking Bob, right?

728
00:40:55,580 --> 00:41:00,780
If that kid wasn't LeBron's son, he's the worst player in three season history.

729
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:04,060
I will love him.

730
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:06,060
Just have him come in game one.

731
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:09,500
Have him do that history thing that they're trying to do, father and son.

732
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:12,780
Take the picture and then send them back to G League.

733
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:18,940
And once he doesn't work out there, call them and bring somebody who deserves that spot.

734
00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:22,460
Because we all know, we all know the reason why he's in the Lakers.

735
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:24,380
It's no secret.

736
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:25,100
It's no secret.

737
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:28,060
It's for that purpose, father and son.

738
00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:31,260
First time, first time and probably the last time that was going to happen.

739
00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:32,860
Freedom.

740
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:35,180
So, you know, which is cool.

741
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:38,860
Just have him do the picture, do it out of you together for two points.

742
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:42,460
Send them down and send them back to the G League and then go from there.

743
00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:44,940
We all know he doesn't deserve that spot.

744
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:46,380
There's better players than him out there.

745
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:48,940
That lost spot is supposed to him.

746
00:41:48,940 --> 00:41:50,380
But we're not a basketball.

747
00:41:52,140 --> 00:41:55,260
So yeah, so that's just.

748
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:57,820
The Rock, listen, the Rock has to do better.

749
00:41:57,820 --> 00:41:58,940
This is all there is to it.

750
00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:03,500
The Rock, with him being the head of the Rock, though, is, you know, he's part of the board.

751
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:03,980
Yes.

752
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:07,100
But other people are also part of the board, not just the Rock.

753
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,260
You know what, though, and I have no idea.

754
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:12,620
None of us, anyone that tells you that they do is full of shit.

755
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:16,860
If you're not part of that, that fucking, that board meeting, you don't know shit.

756
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:21,420
You got to admit that if just say that you're part of that board, right?

757
00:42:21,420 --> 00:42:27,900
Say you're part of TKO as a owner, not even an owner, as part of the company that's in there.

758
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:32,300
And just say, maybe you are, just say, you're muffin martini is the fan.

759
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:36,540
There's no way that you sit back and go, Hey, Rock, what do you think the best idea for this is fake?

760
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,740
Because you, you're an industry guy.

761
00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:42,300
You understand everything that we don't.

762
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:43,580
We can have an idea.

763
00:42:43,580 --> 00:42:45,500
We can throw our two pennies into it.

764
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,060
But this guy knows he's been in the locker room.

765
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,420
He's been around Vince.

766
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:50,780
He's been around Hunter.

767
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:57,020
He's been, you know, he's been around the XFL and now it's the, whatever, when they merge with the USFL or

768
00:42:58,220 --> 00:43:02,060
he's in big boards and big things where he's making big moves.

769
00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:04,060
Oh, I trust his opinion.

770
00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:07,980
But at some point you got to sit back and go, Yo, you hit a rumbling.

771
00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:09,740
They're saying that we might be racing.

772
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:10,940
No, exactly.

773
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:13,260
Oh, we're prejudiced or something.

774
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:17,020
So, you know, gotta get somebody say something, call somebody.

775
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:19,100
Hey, I need somebody from here to win.

776
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,660
I mean, it's been 700 plus days.

777
00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:27,580
Black one on one match has happened where a black person has won a damn match.

778
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,780
So, I mean, come on now.

779
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:30,460
I don't know.

780
00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:33,020
I don't know how to count and I count in Spanish.

781
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:38,060
700 plus days sounds like over a year and a half to me.

782
00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:45,580
So, but one more, one more, one more news, bit of news before we say goodbye.

783
00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:53,100
Avan, which is the daughter of the Rock, tweeted out that she has retired from wrestling

784
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:58,780
and will only focus on being the general manager of my family.

785
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:00,780
I thought that she bended that.

786
00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:03,660
No, she was still an active wrestler.

787
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:08,460
And then when they broke up the skism, they said, what are we going to do with her?

788
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:12,300
So, they didn't put her at the GM and she don't do.

789
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,860
She has done a tremendous job.

790
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:16,060
Yeah, no, I know that.

791
00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:18,220
She fits perfect as the GM.

792
00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:22,860
But let's be honest and I'm going to say this, if she wasn't the Rock's daughter,

793
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,820
she wouldn't be fired two years ago.

794
00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:26,460
Oh, yeah.

795
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:27,820
Oh, absolutely.

796
00:44:27,820 --> 00:44:35,500
But, but, but as of what we've seen her transition from in ring to on screen character as a GM.

797
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:36,060
Yes.

798
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:38,380
If she takes another leap, right?

799
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:43,740
Like if she goes one more, like if she takes another step up, right?

800
00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:45,100
She goes to another level.

801
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,940
You're looking at her because listen, hey, Stephanie McMahon, lover, whatever.

802
00:44:48,940 --> 00:44:50,380
Stephanie, her fucking thing.

803
00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:54,700
If this girl can be anything like that.

804
00:44:57,180 --> 00:45:03,580
Yeah, she can move up to the main roster and be somebody, you know, after one of those guys

805
00:45:03,580 --> 00:45:06,860
retired or at least, you know, one of the GMs there.

806
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:13,100
But yeah, but she would have been fired two years ago if when she got her second injury

807
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,580
or when the thing broke up.

808
00:45:15,580 --> 00:45:17,020
I'll say honey, you're gone.

809
00:45:17,020 --> 00:45:19,660
You're part of the people who just let go.

810
00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:21,100
You do your, your name is on there too.

811
00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:28,620
Well, yeah, that right there is an example of nepotism at its best because damn it,

812
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:31,180
that girl, whoo, her wrestling abilities.

813
00:45:31,180 --> 00:45:31,900
This trade.

814
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:38,140
Once again, like I said, you always, you always get the gene of the wrestler from your parents,

815
00:45:38,140 --> 00:45:38,620
hopefully.

816
00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:45,180
And a lot of times we've seen that happen and they have surpassed their parents when

817
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,220
they become wrestlers.

818
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:52,940
It happened to the Bonairex when they're all the Bonairex except for the girl, Lacey Bonairex.

819
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:54,380
The best broken one.

820
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:55,580
She's gorgeous.

821
00:45:55,580 --> 00:46:01,020
Well, my God, she was a horrible wrestler and you could tell the gene just whoop, whoop.

822
00:46:01,020 --> 00:46:06,300
And hopefully it'll drop in her daughter or her son 20 years from now when, you know,

823
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:10,460
when the baby's old enough because I'm pretty sure she, the baby's got to be like, what, like

824
00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:11,340
close to 10 now.

825
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:13,580
Yeah, I think so.

826
00:46:13,580 --> 00:46:13,820
Yeah.

827
00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:18,700
Because it's been a while since she was, you know, active wrestler with TNA.

828
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:19,100
Oh yeah.

829
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:19,260
Yeah.

830
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:20,380
It's been a long time.

831
00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:21,180
15 years.

832
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:24,220
So nine years she'll be up there.

833
00:46:24,220 --> 00:46:27,180
Lacey Bonairex, a fifth generation wrestler.

834
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:28,460
That'll be awesome.

835
00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:31,260
And I'm pretty sure the baby will have the genes.

836
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:32,140
Yeah.

837
00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:33,500
It missed Lacey.

838
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:37,580
And in this point, we all said the right, oh my God, the right house of daughter.

839
00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,700
Oh my God, we can't wait.

840
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:40,300
Oh, she's going to be, oh no.

841
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,380
Because we all wanted him to have a son and he got three daughters.

842
00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:45,580
So, yeah.

843
00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:47,980
So the son of them has to be the rock though.

844
00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:49,180
Yeah.

845
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:54,700
And unfortunately the genes definitely jumped over.

846
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,140
It didn't skip Ava.

847
00:46:56,140 --> 00:47:03,340
It just literally jumped over her and maybe hit one of the two girls that he

848
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:04,780
has with his wife.

849
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:11,100
So hopefully 15 years from now we're still alive and we go, that's the right daughter.

850
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:15,580
The second one, that's the one that can wrestle because the first one was horrible.

851
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:16,380
You know what?

852
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:19,180
We can come back on a podcast.

853
00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:21,740
I told you that G was going to hit her.

854
00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:22,220
You know what?

855
00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:23,580
Let me, I had to say this.

856
00:47:24,860 --> 00:47:27,660
Up in here, what we've always done is we keep it real.

857
00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:29,660
Like it, don't like it, whatever.

858
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:30,220
You know what I mean?

859
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:32,780
Like we've always stuck true to what we think.

860
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:36,140
We've had arguments about our stance on things.

861
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:43,980
But unlike a million other wrestling podcasts who blow smoke up everybody's ass is going to tell you

862
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:46,780
you know that everything is perfect.

863
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:47,660
Everything is great.

864
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:51,580
They're too pussy to say the real shit of what they really feel.

865
00:47:51,580 --> 00:47:53,660
You'll never have that problem here.

866
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:53,900
Right?

867
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:56,700
Like you'll always hear our opinion.

868
00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:58,300
We're not going to sugarcoat it.

869
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:00,540
We're not going to fucking kiss nobody's ass.

870
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,540
We're going to keep it 1000 with you.

871
00:48:02,540 --> 00:48:06,940
It's one thing that I love doing this on here with muffins because we are who we are.

872
00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:08,540
We're going to say it how we say it.

873
00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:10,700
If you like it, don't like it, whatever.

874
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:12,540
But it's just the way it is.

875
00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:15,340
Like we don't know how to be corny, right?

876
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:18,380
Like it's not our DNA to be wack.

877
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:19,580
It's just not what it is.

878
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:23,020
So my brother, my bad, I just had to get that off my chest.

879
00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:27,420
Oh, you know, please tell us because I've been fired from all the jazz from being too vocal.

880
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:31,980
Oh, yo dude, that's like, I won't even go into

881
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:36,220
some shit recently, but I like to tell people and listen,

882
00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:38,460
when I worked universal, I had three bosses, right?

883
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:40,620
Besides the main main guy who was my home.

884
00:48:41,740 --> 00:48:49,500
So we I got into a little debate with my boss and she tried to tell me I don't like her because

885
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:50,140
she's a female.

886
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:52,220
I said, nah, I come from a single mother.

887
00:48:52,220 --> 00:48:54,140
You being a female got nothing to do with it.

888
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:58,860
I just will never let you talk to me like you talk to these motherfuckers because you make

889
00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:00,460
some of these people fucking cry.

890
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:02,060
I wish you would.

891
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:06,380
And she looked at me and she was like, you know, I respect that.

892
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:07,500
I don't like you.

893
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,340
You're a hell of a fucking worker.

894
00:49:09,340 --> 00:49:10,220
You don't like me.

895
00:49:10,220 --> 00:49:12,300
I said, you're a hell of a fucking worker.

896
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:15,020
It is what it is right before COVID shuts you down.

897
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,460
She came over to me, said, yo, Rob, COVID's about to fuck shit up.

898
00:49:18,460 --> 00:49:22,540
I don't know what to tell you, but I want to personally thank you because you're the best

899
00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:23,660
person I've ever worked with.

900
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:25,420
And she was in a like fucking late 50s.

901
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:26,700
This lady was shit.

902
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:30,140
She was like, you're the best and most loyal worker I've ever had in my life.

903
00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:31,660
I said, yo, I respect the shit out of you.

904
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:35,020
Even if we didn't like each other, we understood what we did and we stay out of each other's

905
00:49:35,020 --> 00:49:36,300
way because of the best of business.

906
00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:39,740
So I don't know how to be thanked.

907
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:41,180
I'm going to tell you what it is.

908
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:44,060
If you don't like it, tell me to get the fuck out.

909
00:49:45,260 --> 00:49:46,460
We won't do this here.

910
00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:46,700
Right?

911
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:48,220
This is all fucking platform.

912
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:48,700
Fuck you.

913
00:49:48,700 --> 00:50:01,740
The views and expressions of Jeff are not necessarily the same views of me or the other

914
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:04,300
listeners of the Urban Wrestling Network.

915
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:05,660
I just have to say the PSA.

916
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:08,940
So anything else you'd like to add before we go?

917
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:11,020
Nah, man, we good.

918
00:50:11,020 --> 00:50:14,620
All right, Jeff, before you take us out, man, ladies and gentlemen, please don't

919
00:50:14,620 --> 00:50:20,460
just not forget to follow us on Urban Wrestling Network, hit that subscribe button, follow us

920
00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:21,500
on everything.

921
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,540
We're also on your favorite streaming.

922
00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:29,500
So if you want to hear us talk and not look at our faces, wherever you were in every streaming

923
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:34,060
thing you just listen to it, the Urban Wrestling Network, and just listen to us.

924
00:50:34,860 --> 00:50:35,100
Jeff.

925
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:42,860
So like he said, listen, it'll be on, I think Spotify, other platforms like subscribe, share

926
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:44,460
or like Good Shit, I always forget.

927
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:46,940
That's why he did it early for myself.

928
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:48,460
Mr. Muffins, Martinez.

929
00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:50,220
Until next week, we outta here.

930
00:50:50,220 --> 00:50:51,660
Dooses.

931
00:50:51,660 --> 00:51:13,100
Dooses.

