I'm a fighter jet. Oh gee, but he could don daughter muffins Martinez
is the forbidden door. Right. And I would forget about all the craziness.
Triple eight somehow pulls off the unthinkable. This is when you know,
Uncle Vince is actually gone because Jordan agrees popping up on NXT to
challenge the champ walking in with the impact wrestling world title,
not for a Royal Rumble like they did with Magnus's wife.
Um, Mickey James, Mickey James.
Last year, last year, and she came out with the bell.
And then do she adjurian grace was also in Royal Rumble.
So, but like saying that this is a bigger platform for her,
it and people might say, well, how is she using the Royal Rumble?
Royal Rumble is a throw away.
That's just for anybody to come in, do what you're going to do.
Get thrown out. It's kind of gimmicky, right?
This is putting her on a WWE Network showcasing impact wrestling at the
moment, top champion for the women's division, Jordan and Grace.
Am I a fan? No, but this is massive for a for impact wrestling.
This is huge for, um, WWE, even though yes, WWE don't need nobody.
NXT, I know is one of your favorite products, period.
And to have that young core that keeps coming in and bring veterans from
impact wrestling to tool these people to get them ready for the main,
you know, of SmackDown and raw and all that good shit.
You go, okay.
Now the crazy thing is the world on the streets is some of the NXT people
will be popping up on TNA, right?
That's the word on the streets.
Will it happen?
I don't know.
But in a quick move, Triple H has done more for impact wrestling.
Tony Khan, who Tony Khan, he had this fake forbidden door and all he did
was whip his junk out and piss all over impact wrestling.
Right?
I'm just being honest with you.
All he wanted to do was humiliate impact wrestling to stroke his own ego.
And it was, it was the wackest fake partnership I've ever seen in my life.
It could have been something great and you never seen anybody from impact
go over to AEW.
We just seen Jordan and Grace when we didn't even know that this for
bidding door thing was happening.
Bro, talk to me for bidding door, NXT impact wrestling, TNA, whatever you
want to call it.
Well, you know, we go back a couple of years, you know, the forbidden door,
Tony Khan bringing in all the new Japan wrestlers coming down to AEW.
Now the forbidden door.
And if you don't follow New Japan Wrestling or any Japanese wrestling,
you don't give a crap.
Like whatever.
But if you follow New Japan Wrestling like I do, and you see guys like
Naito, you know, Tana Hashii, guys like that come in, you get excited.
Oh my God.
Wow.
They're, they're bringing guys in.
What you move forward as New Japan is the lab double AEW.
You never see all you got.
You see there is Moxley go up there, wind up belt, but you never see anybody
from over there come here.
And we're one of the big major titles from AEW.
So that forbidden door thing is gone already.
And then we had the little nonsense with Tony Khan and do stuff with impact
wrestling, which was awesome, which we thought was going to be awesome.
You already saw a private party going to impact for one month little thing.
And that was it.
Never again.
Did you see anybody else from AEW come to impact on less?
They used to be impact wrestlers like Christian K.
Yeah.
Like Christopher Daniels, like a Sarian.
You saw those guys coming in to impact wrestling from AEW, but they used to be
impact people.
So, so it really didn't matter much.
Okay.
So they're bringing guys that were used to work for impact wrestling.
Ruby never one female and never came over.
Nothing like that.
Now the real forbidden door or the real time you saw something happen was
you, we saw most anemic in the first TNA champion, Mickey James.
When she popped up in the Royal Rumble.
Oh my God, dude.
Like that was crazy to see a champion from another company with their belt.
And WWE show like Royal Rumble, dude.
That was like, what?
It was small, but that was something huge.
And then it happened again this year.
Jordan Grace going up there to Royal Rumble.
Like, holy shit, I did it again.
All the possibilities.
And like you hit the nail on the head.
If Uncle Vince was still here, this would not be happening right now.
Hell no.
If Uncle Vince was still in charge with no TKO, this will not be happening.
So because of TKO, because of the rock being there and because of Triple H
being there saying, and we know if it doesn't happen in a WWE ring, it's never
happened.
WWE is the universe.
They always say that if it doesn't happen in our ring, we doesn't exist.
We don't care about it because it didn't happen here.
It can happen out there here.
We don't know anything about it.
So Jordan Grace coming out last night to go up against Roxanne Perez.
The next, what they call it, they don't call it a pay-per-view, but premium
event, they call them now premium things.
And it's not going to be in a big stage because it's at the UFC Apex Center,
which I guess is the small boy they used to do when they had the Kobe and they
were doing stuff there.
So this place with the new license could hold up to a thousand people who
serve alcohol and stuff like that.
So it'll be close to a thousand people going to be there.
But having a champion from another company come out with their own belt
from a different company to be featured in a premium event that's going to be
shown on the Peacock channel because this is the Peacock.
I got to cut you off because not only did she come out with the belt, they actually
said Impact Wrestling's Knockout Champion or TNK.
They introduced the whole thing and I was like, whoa, my bad.
Go ahead, brother, my bad.
And it's going to be on the Peacock channel, which everybody, oh, you got to
pay for the belt.
Everybody pays for it.
If you're a WWE fan, you pay for the Peacock channel.
And do like that.
I got Peacock channel for $199 for six months with the commercials.
But instead of when they show the event and instead of showing the backstage
interviews and stuff like they do on the show, they go into commercials.
And when they tell something, they come back to the show.
You never miss a match.
All you missing is the backstage stuff because they go into commercial there and
I said, I don't miss any action.
I'm paying $199 for six months.
I'm doing it.
But yeah, this is being shown.
This is going to bring the average WWE fan who's just an average WWE fan eyes to
TNA because they're going to go and say, oh shit, TNA is still alive.
TNA is still thriving.
TNA is still there.
And people were saying when Scott DeMore got fired.
Oh, they're going cheap.
They're going to be under in less than a year.
They're going to be doing anything because they're not going to get anything.
And what they've done since Scott DeMore has been gone, Santa Ana came back.
They got more people in there coming back.
They got Mustafa Ali there now.
Hold on.
They also got Hammerstone, Mustafa Ali, Santana, Dolph Ziggler was there before, right?
No, I think he was coming in now.
But now they got his brother there too.
The two name of brothers there.
And now they pulled something like this to be able to have their champion be there.
And you might think, oh, she's going to be there for just for the premium event.
No.
They're going to wrestle in the NXT show next week against a young up and up and comer
of the girls from the NILD deals who say true wrestler from the UK.
When they were doing the UK and they haven't used their sins, but they're like in the
chapter and now she's getting pushed.
So she's going to go against a real veteran that, you know, peep cash your friends may
not know who Jordan Grace, but people like those who follow wrestling know who Jordan
Grace is and know what she's done for the business.
The girl from the girl from Europe.
What's her name?
That's not Kaylee Ray, the one I like, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, she can't erase up.
She's she's up now.
Well, Elba fire.
She's it's Mac down now with the other one.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's the girl's name, but it's an up and comer versus a veteran.
So this is going to bring eyes to TNA regardless of what happens.
So next week she's going to be wrestling on on NXT.
That's going to bring eyes TNA fans are going to come in and flock into watch NXT.
If you are a Jordan Grace fan, you will flock in to watch the show.
And then the following week is the premium show, which hopefully will bring eyes from
TNA and hopefully bring WWE fans for casual to go look into TNA.
So it's the one thing I hate.
And this is what I hate about wrestling fans.
It not wrestling fans is promotion fans, right?
Like we've always said, if you're a fan of the talent, support the talent, right?
How many guys will we talk impact exclusive that we love those cats?
And if they went to the WWE's or elsewhere and WA's, we always still talked about them,
right?
Like cuz those are our guys and the girls we like them.
We're gonna represent them.
We're not gonna just, oh, they went over there.
They're turn coats and trade us like most of these goofy as people do.
If like I said, I'm not a fan of Jordan Grace.
I don't think she's in ring good at all.
But this is such a big thing for impact and if you're an impact fan and you will not watch
her in the WWE ring, I don't know what's wrong with you, right?
Like this is a big moment not only for Jordan Grace's career, but for impact wrestling in
a whole.
That's a whole, right?
Like it makes no sense that.
I don't know, man.
And then of course, you know, social media, everything is free.
Everybody could say what the hell they want to say.
So you know, so people are what it is all the NXT know dude is WWE doesn't matter if
it's NXT, if it's not, if it's raw, you just put your foot in WWE.
Everybody watches.
Okay, a lot of people don't watch, you know, NXT like I do because it's so young.
It's the future that they're doing.
So basically, they really got tired of getting indie wrestlers who are well known and getting
it and then they caught up or they go up.
So this is shit.
We're gonna start doing our own indie wrestlers now.
We're gonna start building our own people.
They went out and they got rid of all the models.
They got rid of all people that look good.
They went and started getting talent.
People who are athletes, sprinters, volleyball players, basketball, football, whatever sports,
gymnastics, cheerleading, competition, champions, they went and they said, this person is an
athlete.
We could turn her into a wrestler or we could turn him into a wrestler.
We're gonna sign this person and that's what they're doing.
It's like you go into the minors.
You go there for two years after two years.
If you're good, you're gonna go up to the majors.
If you're bad, you're gonna get caught.
Yeah, I mean, it's enough.
We didn't see enough of you getting better and, you know, and some of the old people
that I would get, like unfortunately Cameron Grimes, you know, that cut already being up
there, you know, and it happens.
You get caught and you get caught in the middle of stuff and it happens.
You know, but the difference is, you know, the big difference is that, again, we could
call the minors to SmackDown and Roll because it's their development system, right?
So with us being sports people, we'll use the word minors.
That's what makes sense to us, but when people say it's only NXT, NXT was beating out AEW's
numbers for their main flagship show.
So even if that's their minors, it's beating their majors, right?
So you go, well, if AEW is the number two company in the United States, NXT is beating
them.
So I mean, I don't know.
I wouldn't really consider it.
I think it's a bigger accomplishment, like we said, them being in a WWE ring because
NXT is a WWE product.
They are a WWE talent.
They're just not on the main roster.
And like you said, the rumor is that maybe in the future, they'll have NXT individuals
at TNA pay-per-views.
That's huge.
It's basically we're going to show the guys that we have faith for and we believe in Roxanne
Perez.
We're going to send it to your show.
When was the last time ever you've seen a WWE champion of any caliber being in a TNA
show on their pay-per-view showing up where they ripped from their comfort?
No.
I mean, if AEW is always with the forbidden door, why haven't they ever had an MLW person
or a TNA person or an MLW person and the weight person champion being on their shows
and they can say forbidden door, nonsense.
No.
WWE and TNA just broke the forbidden door nonsense out because this is really the forbidden
door when you have a champion from another company show up to a live TV tape because
it's live.
It wasn't tape last night.
It's live happening right there.
If I'm 8 to 10, right there on your show, a champion from a different company comes
in, you got a holy shit.
The door, the your idea just blew up.
So whatever TNA or AEW was doing, it was all Japanese.
It was all guys.
And TNA just did it with females.
And you rarely see females doing stuff like that.
Look at all the different dream scenarios we had when Ampact was doing the stuff with
AEW.
We wanted to see the females do stuff and they were on Twitter and social media throwing
out matches and not one time did they ever took advantage of it because of politics.
I don't know how much content we got talking about opportunities of the AEW and that's
what we're doing.
Beyond opportunity.
I mean, now let's be honest.
Imagine if this kid's working and then TKO decides that you know something, we're like
this.
Let's buy TNA.
Now you got another company sold up that has another thing.
We're going to start sending our guys or girls to TNA now when you have a real partnership.
This is what the word partnership comes into play and you use it for what is meaning is
partnership.
We're going to send people from NXT to TNA.
TNA to NXT.
They're going to get shown and if something happens, they will bring them out to Smackdown.
We bring them out to Raw.
But you already know Smackdown and Raw are already ballooned with what they have and they're
going to keep adding more people for the hell of it just to have bad state stuff.
So that's why NXT is different because you could throw so many stuff out there and really
have matches that get you going and say, oh shit, I like this guy, Tric Williams.
I love Tric Williams.
I love Chase University.
I love, you know, I love this.
I love that.
I love Jara Jackson.
I love Meta 4.
NXT is the future of what you want it to be.
But like, well, what we were kind of saying earlier, can you imagine if you get the Tric
Williams versus the Josh Alexander's, the Tric William versus the Eddie Edwards?
And then you start seeing, okay, I know he could do this on NXT's level, but can he do
it in Smackdown and Raw?
Can you put him in that TNA ring with guys who have been in the industry for so many
years that are super veterans?
If I could watch him go against him, I know he's ready, right?
It's not the same caliber here.
I know he's ready for here.
So I think that would be the best part of it.
Every spring training, there's always two games at the end of the spring training.
When the triple A team goes and plays your major league team for two games before spring
training ends.
This is NXT triple A, going up against TNA who's a major league team.
And you, like you said, you put them out there.
Okay.
If they can hold their own with a freaky Cosserbian who's been wrestling for 20 years, Christopher
Daniels, some of Josh Alexander, Hammerstone, who's been out there for 10, 15 years, imagine
what they could do in our system with our guys if they go up there and they show out.
Now we gotta see.
They let TNA person come in.
Now we'll see if they let somebody from WWE, most likely somebody from NXT or someone
from even from the top that you're not using, like, you know, spot on, like mission or how
they're using Nettie Nighthawk that she's always going down to NXT to kind of help some
of the girls with Lola Weiss, you know, Shayna Baszler go out to Impact Wrestling or TNA
then you go like, okay, now you see that we are productive and now you see a real talent
exchange, a real, you know, partnership going on.
And it takes something small to open a big door.
If this comes and in actually be successful, imagine how big of a door open for one for
bound for glory or something like that, when you can bring some NXT folks there and you
have their tag team champions from TNA, Renssel, an open comer tag team from NXT females.
That'll happen.
That'll be crazy.
I mean, like, you know, right now, your mind is blowing up with the possibilities of different
matches, different scenarios, really get some females going back and forth.
But for some reason, the females always get the short stick or the end of the short out,
how it was the same, the short end of the stick, the short end of the stick, everything.
Oh, it's a possibility.
We could do this if females disappear and you're like, oh, shit, what happened?
This is huge.
And it was Rassam Perez, how it was burning up the indies and then she had won the wrestling
in Ring of Honor.
And then she had what title she had there for a while.
Weiman's title.
Oh, I don't watch R-Wage.
I know we wanted her for MLW, but she went to R-Wage.
She wrestled once in MLW, I remember.
One time.
Yeah, when she was a champion for something else and I forgot what title.
Yeah, for Ring of Honor when she won the belt.
Yeah.
She was a butt by AEW.
So, you know, and she, this fucking rocket behind her NXT and she's ready to go up to
the main roster.
But now you give her Jordan Grace.
Now you're going to see.
Hold on.
Does Jordan Grace beat her?
She gets called up and Jordana Grace is now the NXT Women's Champion.
So, right now, with what just happened last night, the possibilities are endless because
you cannot say that's not going to happen because we don't know what's going to happen.
Like, no dirt sheet knew anything this was going to.
This was the beauty of it.
Now one dirt sheet knew that Jordan Grace was going to be there last night.
Yeah, didn't kill the surprise.
No one.
This was completely.
But this is what makes wrestling fun.
So imagine if she shows up there with her belt for TNA and imagine she beats her for
the for the WWE NXT title.
And then Roxanne Perret gets called up to the top.
Now she's a WWE NXT and TNA champion.
Do like if that happens, forget the forbidden door.
The forbidden door has been completely destroyed after this.
And I never even thought about it.
You said that now and my mind is just blowing up just thinking about us not knowing anything
and nobody knowing anything.
It's going to be the beauty of people watching to see what's going to happen.
I'm saying it now.
I'm going to be out there.
Jordana Grace is winning that belt, bringing it back to TNA.
I'm taking that.
I'll be crazy, bro.
I'll be crazy if that happens.
And then they're trying to push Lola Vice or somebody else to go to a TNA show, have
a view to try to go to the NXT title.
There WWE built on TNA.
What the hell froze over?
Dude, I'll be crazy if that shit happens.
That'll be crazy if that happens, bro.
Right here.
Just throw everything you know about wrestling out the window.
I'm all in.
Now, now, now, actually say we are the universe.
If you don't believe it, we are the universe.
Dude, you blew my mind when you say that.
I am already changing the game.
Listen, I'm a rock band.
I'm super biased.
I'm saying all this is happening because of the people shamp the rock because I'm extremely
biased, but this could be one of the greatest things we've seen in forever, right?
Like we've never seen this in WWE.
I'm gonna be watching now just because of what you said.
I'm gonna be cute.
Jordan and the Greats are coming out with that belt and a WWE title will be on the Impact
Wrestling Show.
That is fucking insane.
You heard it here first from me in the Martina.
Say that in wrestling in 2024, you're gonna have a Impact Champion being the WWE NXT Champion
and Impact Women's Champion at the same time in a different company.
Dude, I doubt that'll be all about.
In their company, it's not like it's gonna be defended on Impact, right?
Like it's gonna be an NXT.
So if she walks out with that belt and NXT, that said so much that she comes in there because
we know she's winning next week, right?
This is the short-short match.
Yeah, it's the two-in-a-batch to make her look good to go against Roxy and progress
the story.
But if she, listen, I'm gonna tell you now, a thousand people, 2,000 people, whatever
fits in this venue, if Jordan and Grace wins that belt, it might be fucking crickets, right?
Because Nova would ever see this coming.
That would shock the whole fucking industry.
I'm pretty sure, you know, like everybody, all the fake wrestlers that know who they are.
Because I heard a bunch of TNA chants last night when she came out.
So if people were cheering, so we'll find out if it's gonna be a split crowd, I mean,
a split crowd when the match happens in two weeks.
And I'm pretty sure that's gonna bring us, and if whatever happens, happens, like you
mentioned, to throw your wrestling book out the window, because whatever we know about
wrestling is just, forget it.
This is what makes this fun, right?
Like, to be able to sit here and see this and talk this shit is fucking dope.
I was gonna say, let's translate this into our next thing, but all, what's his name?
All ego Ethan Page or something.
He's got a crazy long name.
He pulled up.
No one's seen that coming, right?
Like you just heard, he hasn't been an AWO.
I know the dirt sheet that nobody knew about.
Ethan Page.
And this is, I'm gonna have to go back to when I was young.
I mean, you've seen things before me, but NWO, where Scott Holland, Kevin Nash pulled
up to WCW was like, what is going on?
Then you get Hogan, NWO starts having you like, this is fucking nuts, right?
You never, because there were no dirt sheets.
There were no internet like that.
So the surprise element was there.
Jordana Grace pulling up.
No one had a peep of this.
Ega, Ethan Page.
No one had a peep of this.
I'm going to cut you off for a second.
2000, I was 2001.
I was already married and we had a computer.
We had just got our first computer lesson at one and he was dying up.
He was going to AOL or AOL.com.
Dude, I will go home from work, write to the computer.
It will take me five minutes to log in and I will start looking for dirt sheets with
the dirt sheets were starting to come out in 2001 just to see what was the news at that
time.
It wasn't accurate or not.
I have no idea.
I'm typing in things that my friends will tell me, you got this website up, they have
the talk wrestling.
Boom.
Dude, five minutes just to log in, just to see no news because nothing came up yet.
And then I will go check back another half hour later to see nothing.
I did that every day.
I will check.
And it was like, but maybe one article per every couple of days that will pop up.
Now you go everywhere.
It's like just reasons and excuses and hypothetical, you know, questions of this and there's like
50 different type of articles and nothing that you want to read about.
But it's all crap.
I remember those days, but running home from work in my early 30s.
You got mail.
I got mail, all right.
And some AOL bullshit.
I don't even know what email is, but I'm like, all right, whatever.
I got mail.
All right.
Sorry, man.
I just I haven't told our story in there.
Listen, this is what makes that's what makes wrestling fun is the unknown, right?
Like as MlW fans, one of the things that we're really excited about coming up to Battle
Riot is who's this mystery person of Contrary because we don't know, right?
So it's an unknown element.
That's what we're having fun with.
And that's a show.
Yeah.
Ethan Page coming in.
That's a big for NXT as well.
It's a former Impact Wrestling guy, former AEW guy.
The guy gets it really good on social media.
He does what he does.
Hopefully he doesn't go goofy because I think we'll get lost in the sauce.
Well, hopefully he'll do the goofy shit and just be like he was last night.
Just serious Ethan Page or Eagle, all about him.
Boom.
And like you said, the beauty of not knowing anything and having you having to tune in
because you know what's going to happen.
NXT just gave us that.
You have to tune in because you don't know what's going to happen.
I mean, this is the most tight lit thing that happened last night that I've seen in
years.
Yeah.
And nobody knew.
Like no rumors or we think the guy Ross or the other guys or whatever.
Oh, we think this is going to happen.
Nobody taught shit cause nobody knew nothing.
Yeah.
And not for nothing.
We still have not seen Camille.
We still have not seen Jacob.
But who knows where the hell they're in limbo somewhere.
But the next person I'm telling you that pulls up to NXT is going to be Ricky Starks, former
NWA TV champion.
So we're never his country expires called Jake Hager.
Just got expired.
He didn't resign.
Mark Henry expired.
He didn't resign.
I just told those that he did.
He's not resigning.
So that's a lot of guys, a lot of girls and other guys who contracts are coming up and
not resigning.
You know, they just retire, retire, but someone like Jay Hager, you can see him back in NXT,
you know, or somebody like, you know, NWA or MLW or Impact will give them the money.
You know, he's a good wrestler, but they just messed them up with all the non-sense repress
Jericho, you know, in the whole society that he was there the whole time.
So, you know, fortunately, he's not anywhere else.
And he's sitting all we said, but we've been, we've been saying this since NWA, right?
We've been saying we've seen this since NWA.
Um, listen, we talked everything.
We talked, uh, eat the page.
We talked the partnership.
Man, if y'all listen, we're an MLW podcast, but when big shit happens, we got to talk
big shit.
That's what we do.
So for myself, the big homie, we got one more for you.
Deuces.
Hello.