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As I recapture her kiss
They said grapehate the way
Chased the rape release the pain
Least you saying get in pain
Trendsetting brighter days
Lover rap's tight as that
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10 pounds of podcast haven't done this
And forever and I think we might be upsetting some fans
Because I'm going to come in here a little hot
But first and foremost new title
And Muffins Martinez is the most knowledgeable person
I've ever talked to with NWA
He knows everything
If he doesn't know it, it did not happen
You can shake your head no don't play that bullshit
This man knows mother and everything
Muffins the NWA mid-American heavyweight championship
Of whatever else is labeled
Please talk to me about this belt
Little history and then we can just talk
Yeah man now we know NWA
It came back I was happy when the cork
And brought it back
And you know this man is all about heritage
He wants to bring as many titles
From back in the day as much as possible
And he even brought back the horrendous
Which I call the Pepto Bismol
National wrestling title
Because it's just pure pinkish
It looks like Pepto Bismol with the big belt
Which your boy Bram just won that as a matter of fact
So he's the new national heavyweight type champion
But he decided Corgan decided
You know something
We're doing the temperatures again
He's out there getting different promotions
From different cities
He got one in Chicago
One in Tennessee
One in the south
I mean he's going like every different place
And getting different titles
Or different companies
And merging them together
To beat territories
And you'll be able to go all around
And stay in one section
And hit all these places
So he said well let's bring what the NWA
Mid-American heavyweight title
And make that the main title
That whoever wins the title on June 1st
Will be the one that will go all over
The different territories to defend this title
Which I was back in the NWA days
When you know Harley Ray's or Ric Flair
Or Dusty Rose were out defending the title
In a different country or somewhere else
You had the national title
Being the main title for that month
Or for the next month or two months
As being like Flair's out
Or Dusty's out with the championship belt
Now we're going to focus on the national title
The next month or two
And whoever is the champion
That's going to be those four we're now going forward
So that's where we're going
Will those matches be shown on NWA?
Well the new stuff yes
Yeah so when they go into different to different cities
They will be taped and they show on the CW
Oh no what I'm asking is
You said this title will be on different territory shows right?
Yes well different territories
And I'm pretty sure they'll be you know also taped
So they'll show on the NWA episode on CW
So that way you're able to see the defenses
Okay so why would you bring the title back
If you're not going to show anybody the title
You know and this title was back in 1952
Is when this title started
And the first champion was Buddy Rogers
Was the first champion back in 1952
And it was the annual mid American heavyweight title
So I did research and went around
So he was the first champion
Drake Lawler helped it for 343 days
So he was the longest champion ever was Drake Lawler
I mean Bobby Ian beautiful Bobby
Held this title 10 times before he was beautiful Bobby
Wow
And before the midnight express
Your boy Coco Buehler held this six times
Nature boy butter and dale
The fake Ric Flair held it four times
Jeff Jerry had it five times
I mean Jerry Lawler held it three times
But the funny thing is that from the 50 from 59 all over to 1980
It was being defended and then it stopped
And then they took a big break
I don't know what happened to the title
And then they came back in 81
They just disappeared and then almost a year later
It reappeared again
And then now it was just being defended
All the Memphis in Memphis tennis season
So that it just got stuck in Memphis there from 1980 to
1987
Or when it when it got closed back in 87
So from there it went
From there just stuck in Memphis, Tennessee
And then in 87
A merged with the international
AWA international
Title and the 80 Southern Heavyweight title
It then merged your 3000 together and then became the CWC
A heavyweight championship
Which is a championship wrestling association back in 87
It's when this title got defunct
So now
When you see the video on YouTube
You're gonna see the title and this title
You know back in the 50s back in those days it looked good
But in 2024 that shit does not look good
No
That's just I don't know her brand this title
That's just just like why are you bringing this back?
You know I appreciate the lineage of it
I appreciate he's bringing something back
You know presented to the new champion
And then the champion wins it
All the belt and then a future show
You give him a new updated title
Yeah
I'm hoping I'm praying that that's what happens
Because this title is horrendous
I mean this title is the worst in the pep talk business title
So one of two things I got to say
Well three I want to drop three things
One I'm gonna be a question to you
One Cocoa B Ware
Holy that belt automatically makes me love it
Because I'm a big fan of Cocoa B Ware
He was my you know I was that little kid
He was doing the whole you know what I mean
He was cooler than shit
Cocoa B Ware was the best one
Well that was before doing this and Frankie the bird
So
Well that's how I know him
You know what I mean?
I know him as Cocoa B Ware but
He still had the name Cocoa but there was no bird at that time
Oh this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is pre-Frankie
Pre-Frankie
You know and to segue out of that
This is what I thought I wanted WRE
And then I found out that I hate WRE
Or WRE have back in those days
Because I always thought oh shit Cocoa B Ware is going here
Or the sheep purters are going to WRE
They're gonna go crazy
And what happens is what I found out is
That Uncle Vince doesn't care what you did out there
No
You're gonna do and you're gonna be a new person here
Well that's well
Cocoa B Ware became Cocoa B Ware the bird
The sheep purters became the bush walkers
They went from destroying people to doing you know doing nonsense
Look at his hands
Terry Taylor was a champion out here and he became the Red Rooster
Destroy his core career after that
You know a lot of guys were were building their names out here
And they will go there to think something's gonna happen and they get destroyed
I mean even Dusty Rose the American dream became the
Just about to say
Dusty Rose didn't even be Dusty Rose was not allowed to be Dusty Rose in WWF
Like it's fucked up
He was the Pocodoc guy
Yeah he did the American dream with all you know dancing around and shit like that
But it was the American dream
It was Dusty Rose or whatever stupid name they gave him
And his gimmick was the Pocodocs
Yeah that was his gimmick
And that's when I found out I don't want anybody that I like
Going to WWF back in those days because they're gonna destroy what they built out here
Well Vince is like that
That happens with a lot of guys
Vince felt that if you're not his guy then let me cripple you
Let me make you a job or an he's a piece of shit but we know that about Vince
Listen so
Well you have three questions
Now I think that
I know Coco beware of you boy
Pre-Frankie this is pre-Frankie
Okay two NWA has some of the ugliest belts in the industry
Well to be fair these belts look good in that timeframe period
You know the PeptoBismol was in the 70s
So I'm pretty sure it was a way of his thing in the 70s to the 80s
Then it got changed to an actual national title
And then the mid 80s it became the United States heavyweight title
Fam we're in 2020s not 1970s or 50s
Exactly and that's why I said that hopefully
We'll give you this belt as a you know
Commerative oh god you the first guy that won this title since 1987
But then we're gonna have a celebration next week or 12 months from now
And we're gonna give you a better updated title
I don't know if that's gonna happen but
I gotta ask because when we were covering NWA
I think his name was Thrill Billy or Trill Billy
Thrill Billy
If he's not holding a belt at this moment because I do not know
Do you think he could be the first person to win this?
He should be the first person to win this
For the simple reason that he was the national title heavyweight title
He defended it a number of times and then he dropped the title to get his chance at EC3
EC3 yeah
And unfortunately he lost that match
So now he's out on the national title so now he has no belt
So
Which means this could be a nice opening for him
Or or it could be a new beginning for your other boy there
Kerry Morton
I like Kerry Morton
You know he's always saying that you know he's the future heavyweight
You know he's a lightweight or whatever
I mean that'd be kind of cool if they put it on him
Because I mean he definitely earned it
I mean all the work that he's been doing for the last couple of years
You know I'm going all around the same way with three billion Cyrus
You know that's another guy who deserves it
But he had a title breaker you know recently so
Maybe it's time for him for you know the shot
Yeah Kerry Morton or maybe somebody and make our guy
You know man
No no I think that those two were the hot young
Your boy Mims
Your boy Mims I mean he I mean even though he lost his TV title to
The man beast out there
The non-barried beast oh my god for God's sake
I mean
You know the one
Like the role
Yes
Like
Yeah she beat him for his TV title
And she's the female TV title so she got both TV title now
so
You know so hopefully man or bulletproof bulletproof
Guy that's with the uh
Still be your ex-quieter
I mean he looks like he could be a champion there
But whoever whoever was this belt
It's going to be hitting those territories
You know like I said Chicago, Tennessee, Knoxville, Kentucky
You know so see they have a nice pretty
You know then going around now there in this little section
That if something happened with wrestling
We can't make it to the east coast
We could stay down here we don't have to go up to the east coast
We don't have to go down west
We have our ditch right here
This is us we're going to stay here
You know we're not bothering anybody else let us do our share here
And we're going to mind our business and go to our different little promotion here
You know you could hit those four different cities every week
And you could go in around
In a month and a half you could go to the six seven different promotions
And you know show every week
Defend the title you know and then when one of those big NWA shows
You could defend that title there and bring a person from whoever's next to get defended
You bring that person from that little small company that they might not know
And now you put them in a bigger stage
Are you in the NWA you're going to be on CW or you're going to be in a preview show
To show what you got I mean that could break you know that could be a big break for a younger person
And the promotion
And things like that you know and then opportunity
They give you a good match and sky's the limit from there
And NWA has an amazing young roster
You got to give them credit for that
Their roster is super young, they're super talented
Now I got to ask you I don't want to change title things but I'm going to ask you
How do you feel EC3 has been as the NWA 10 pounds of gold champion in Sweden?
I always wanted him to go back to impact and pick the way he left out before he jumped to WWE
But it never happened and now I'm happy that he's doing it here in NWA
Because he's actually has more freedom now to do what he needs to do
And he's going around different companies and wrestling for other companies
And winning their belts and getting to storylines
So he's definitely being pushed as that guy that we all wanted to be pushing impact
He's getting that opportunity in NWA and he's doing it
I mean I'm happy with him over Tyrus and Murdoch and all those guys that looked like a champion
He looks like a champion, he dresses like a champion, he's out like a champion, he talks like a champion
He's carrying the name brand and the right way
He's out there getting his face out there and doing everything that he's supposed to do
And I know that he wants to hold the belt for 333 days for the EC3 thing
Yeah I mean I'm pretty sure the way he's going he might get to that
I wouldn't see why not, I don't see anybody coming up defeating him anytime soon
I know he has Sam Adonis coming up at the Crocker Cup tournament coming up
So that should be interesting because Adonis had left from there
And then he was in MLW for a while and then he left MLW, killing in AAA
And now he's getting his shot at this title back here
So hopefully he might be back in the end of the day
And you mentioned about the young roster, I mean they have one of the best female rosters out there
Easily, you know they got the female title, the team title and they have a tag team title all for females
It's not just one belt
There's a bull that's super loved with the crowd, they aren't even Marshall or some shit
Starts with the M, she's like rushing to some shit
Oh Markova
Markova
Yeah, oh she's Markova, why she still hasn't won a title there?
Because Natalia Markova, this lady has been kicking butt for years everywhere
And I want to say since last year when she had that match against Camille
I think that was the one that kind of pushed her up more
And now she's everywhere, I mean she's competing in Puerto Rico
She's competing in other places, she was just there in Puerto Rico this past weekend
Yeah, down there in Puerto Rico doing her shit with the end of the show that they had over there
And I can tell you, tell you you can see I believe
But yeah, why she still hasn't got the championship bill or even the TV title is beyond me
Because she's the only one that could, oh Max the Impaler
Max the Impaler, that's not a bad match
She's getting one that could probably go against Max right now that's you know
High wise, power wise, and she's rushing, she's rushing, shh
Don't get him in the cold, then the smoke will kill you out there in the snow
In the cold, you're done
One on one, I'll give up right now because I'm dying right here, I'm going to get killed
Yeah, but she's doing her shit man, you know
But for all the people that laughed about Billy Corgan and the mess that happened with Impact
And then he's, you know, he buying a dead company and but just buying three letters, NWA
From 2017, so now, I mean it's been seven years, minus the COVID shit
And the COVID kind of stopped the momentum because they were just hitting that stride with the pick of use
And then had a humongous roster with Ricky Starks who stormed
J-Storm
EC3 was there
J-Storm, Ram, Magnus
Yeah Magnus, yeah you know Ricky Starks
Ricky Starks
Yeah, Ziggy Dice
What if Ziggy Dice who was the TV champ
For the TV title, when they put the TV title back
So and then COVID hit, then everybody was sitting around and then AEW was doing, you know, pre-COVID
With just the wrestlers on each side and people started going, okay, I want my release because I want to go there
You know, and now, and then you know, they took a step backwards, two, three steps back
And then fighting ever since to get back to this point where now, you know
One stupid decision at the last pair of you they had messed up from being on TV to an app
Unfortunately, and now they haven't had one pair of views since because they don't know what CW is going to do with their pair of views
So everything that's supposed to be a pair of you is now a TV episode
But I mean like, like when you said, like if you're giving Corgan shit, I don't like Billy Corgan, like I'm not a fan of the guy, right?
I love Billy Corgan because what he's doing for wrestling, I know two songs from his group, that's it
I don't even know that, but like, I'm not going to say nothing, he's in the Rockin' Bro Hall of Fame salute
I don't got to like your music, but if you're a legendary motherfucker, you're a legendary person
Like just because I don't like you, your music don't mean shit
But if people go, oh, well, the impact thing, this is that you're going to, are you still worrying about seven years ago?
Like, only seven years ago was a long time
So if you're hung up on seven years ago, like right now, if anybody says something about Dixie, why?
Anthem has had this fucking company for mad years, it's Anthem's Impact or TNA, whatever you want to call it
Stay out of that past shit, and with him doing the territory things, which that's your era, you loved wrestling with the territories
I didn't know that, all I knew was WWF, right?
So I never seen nothing like that, this belt, but it's going to be defended on mad shows and shit like that
And one person, and they're going to plug it, we've been saying that LW should be doing this forever
They're going to do it, Corgan has a mind for this shit, and he's taking NWA
Now Brandon, yes, I don't like a lot of the belts, do I think he should, like you said, 100%
Give it, let's modify it after that, let's pay homage to the belt, and then start a new era with the belts
I'm 100% which one that, give this guy credit for what he's done though
Like, NWA's came a long, long way, and with their young roster, they're murdering it
I don't care what anyone thinks, they did one stupid bonehead thing under his reign, it kicked him in his ass
And I guarantee you, nothing like that will be shown again, but you know what I mean?
He's doing a damn thing, NWA has another belt, this was the idea of its super dope
The history of it is fucking amazing, so
And what I'm talking about is, anytime, whoever the new champion is, could lose this belt at another show
NWA Exodus, NWA Chicago, NWA and JCP, which is the Katansa family
And then that person, they feel could be ready, boom, now he's that person being catapulted to the CW app
Whoever's watching this app, and I'm pretty sure, you know, there's, no, there's not millions
And there's not a hundred thousands, but I'm pretty sure there's thousands of fans who are watching the CW app
Are going to see whoever the new champion is from one small company
And if you're watching it, someone big from a big company is watching it too and say, yo, you gotta watch this episode
Because this new kid that's the mid-American champion from this small company, they do have the look
And he can do the hand-to-hand
If people think that they're not, yeah, if they're not watching matches from M-Pag, MLW, NWA
If you think people ain't scouting people like that, you're fucking faking
And NWA, not for nothing, even if I don't like this shit, there are people like you who grew up and love this shit
And now they have an opportunity to watch it again, so you know they're going to get reeled back into it
Because it's their product, it's what they fell in love with
But, yeah, I don't want to hear anyone say, oh man, nobody's watching that shit
It's your job to watch it if you're in this industry
Because if you sit there and go, oh shit, I like this drill, drill, Billy
I like, Kerry Morton, I like this, I like that
BRG, the only way you're going to watch it is to watch them if you're watching the product they're on
That's how you scout people, you don't really have to even go into a venue no more
That's dead, social media, you see everybody's work
So you sit back, you start watching anyone with a buzz, word goes around
You scout them, you go, well, we're the top dogs, I want this guy
And then you put whoever you need to get in touch with these people and say this is who I want and I need them
Because what's going on?
How is the dog really getting guys or females to come to their tryouts?
It's because they saw them out there, somebody saw it, somebody told hey, triple H or whoever is under him to get the trials ready
Hey, this person, we should give them a look
And they come out and then you see them in a t-shirt on a post and you got a holy shit
I remember, I remember I heard from just how a couple of matches down here or this guy just had a match here and WA
And that's what they get seen because somebody's talking about it
And now they get seen, they might not be ready, but they got seen
They were invited, through to get invited to something, that's like going to a triple H tryout
Yeah
Somebody saw you, they invited you, you got your foot in, now you got to go back and work harder
And when the door opens, boom, it's your turn and then you either tell between your legs and run or you take that ball and say, oh, I'm going in
I mean, it's like
What's that shorty that I like from OBW that she's going to mess us up?
Oh, Hailey J
Hollywood Hailey J, Hollywood, Hollywood Hailey J
So Hollywood Hailey J, she got a quick buzz, everybody was Hollywood Hailey J
I haven't heard shit about this girl since whatever happened in that WWE tryout
Yeah, I don't know, yeah, she was supposed to go and then something medical happened and they're supposed to bring her back in the future
And that was last year
But you don't hear her buzz like that
Her buzz isn't a buzz no more
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, yeah, because they not took the wrestlers, showing Netflix, they got hot again and then
But if you're telling me that nobody watched her on, because after that Netflix shit is what happened, right?
Yeah
You're saying that nobody sat back, nobody, there's a lot of nobodies going on right now
Nobody watches the MW, nobody watches NWA, nobody watches Impact, but somehow all these people are wanted in WWE or AEW
A lot of nobodies are watching nobodies
So I'm just saying this, hey, I guess we're a bunch of nobodies because we watch it all
I think we hit everything on everything, right? We got a
Unfortunately, you know, usually we're the ones on Bad Time, we're a bunch of Puerto Ricans
People will say we're always late, we're fashionably early, that's why I think we are
So we got a way to hit you with the full MLW shit
We talked NWA, we talked Celine De La Renta, El Hepi
And sometime this week you'll get Rob K with three of us
And for myself, Muffins Martinez, NWA 10 Pounds of Podcast
We out of here, deuces
Deuces
Balloon!