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What's really good ladies and gentlemen happy April fools to all you fools out there

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mr. I'll say mr. Gray collar muffins Martinez with his slice boogie t-shirt

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Rob K. Mlw confusion myself the OG would die daughter a k.a. the man of a million a

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k.a.s. Gentlemen War Chamber lot of highs for me I think we'll jump in yo dude we

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see your shirt already this isn't a slice boogie podcast greetings from New York

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hey missed out on that like we're didn't we reference boogie last week like

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boogie yeah see you late you late bro whatever

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War Chamber I think we start off tonight hi I mean at this point I'm wondering

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when we're gonna get a full tonight hi match it doesn't seem like a straight

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just beat down at this point I mean I don't know talk to me gentlemen tonight

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Kai War Chamber all that good ish I don't care I just want to hear somebody talk

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yeah I don't think it was a straight you know beat down on there wasn't like a

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squash it wasn't a squash match you know the girl did whatever she had to do

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Jenae Kai just is better at it you know she she did what she had to do she came

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out kicking as she does she kicked the shadow her in that corner she got a

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real good with that kick there in the corner and she picked her she did the

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job you know we got another it never felt like it it never felt like she was

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in danger losing yeah yeah true and the thing is is like what keeps bothering me

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about this is that they can always keep bringing Japanese wrestlers now we don't

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know about unless you're a hardcore fan and you know who they are and you have a

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cluster of roster of females there that you don't use you know so you know we

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already know that um oh god though the girl from C stars and I forgot her name

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tell me tell me so no she was she's the number one contender why could she get

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the title match there you know so now I'm guessing they were to make 11th and

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have it there you know where is it's that I rent out against Cessar team so but

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you know it did a job I wish they'll use more American wrestlers and less

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Japanese wrestlers because at least American wrestlers we know who they are

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hopefully yeah they kick the Japanese wrestlers which I don't have a problem

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with it as long as we know who they are no idea who she was I had to look her up

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because I had no clue who she was like the girl last time the fast-paced girl

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whatever in the bicycle you know yeah the only one that I knew was the first

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one that she that she thought that was a great match which one Machi it's like

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there you go yeah Machi eat on then the other one from Japan even I know Machi

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yeah we all know Machi but everybody else they same since we have no clue who

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they are so you know keep it local get girls that we know who they are or use

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what you have in your roster yeah I agree on that like there's no knock against

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the Joshi's like that they are obviously a very high of their very high level

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talent overall it's just but it is the same thing over and over again the

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Joshi's Joshi's Joshi's Joshi's yeah that that is the traditional term for the

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women wrestling over there learn something new every day thank you rock a

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put your head on I should put the should put that on for it

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yeah drop a drop in knowledge I did I'm just talking like I assume everyone

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knows what I'm talking about at this point he but you know I agree though it

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because it is just kind of the same thing every month we have kind of like the

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Joshi du jour come in they has match genicae wins you know so I would like to

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at least switch it up a little bit bring in a lucha daughter from CMLL is

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muffins like some you know you know like every week you know bring in bring

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you know bring in bring in some of the local talent or you know or local to

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the area I mean Lord knows that you know they've been in the northeast for at

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least a year this is part of the first batch that's gone out of the northeast

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but like the northeast wrestling scene is filled to the brim with quality talent

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they can bring in even just for one shot like like yeah yeah we know geni is not

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gonna lose to him but you can still put on a banger of a match I mean you know

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same thing for down in Florida you know Florida Florida's got some quality

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wrestling down there as well and if nothing else you can bring in a young

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up-and-comer out of like coastal shanty not is it coast

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and there's a couple others down there CCW yeah and like you said they

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could have done a special attraction match or I'm calling somebody out and

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it's somebody from Florida there well or it can be in 10 seconds or whatever

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it's the last time or like well as we we can we will probably talk about like

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they had no problems bringing out like rando local talent for this event alone

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I mean we already had like three different guys that you know for MLW

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fans were almost complete unknowns but I'm going to digress back to the point

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at hand which is our our championship match I thought it was perfectly

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serviceable there was nothing absolutely nothing wrong with it I did feel that

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the ending was a bit rushed and like out of nowhere but not like RKO out of

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nowhere where you just hit the flash finish and oh you won it's like like

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they just like cut off like it's almost like they like pause cut out a section

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and then unpaused it almost like they were going through a you know a series

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and then all of a sudden Janiah hits the half Nelson slam Irish whip into the

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corner boom it's over like I felt there was a better way they could have

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tradition they could have transitioned to that spot if that's how it was supposed

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to go but it was almost like someone just said like hey guys you're running long

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let's just go and they ended it yeah and it's called coastal coastal

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championship wrestling there we go CCW which is good I like I like what Rob

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Rob said about CML we finally actually have a belt show on MLW defended some

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of us so gentlemen told me I know we've we've been beating the drum for damn

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near out in over a year or two about this shit talk to me about this

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oh yeah another thing like I was just happy to see you know them do this and

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honestly with the War Chamber like needing an actual intermission for War

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Chamber to be set up like this I felt this was definitely a perfect

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opportunity for something like this is that perhaps a part to happen because like

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I I'll I've outed myself several times like I'm a fan of death match wrestling

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and one of my pet peeves in watching like death match tournaments or something

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like is that like you have this intermission for you know 15 minutes or

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however as they set up you know their cage or they set up the barbed wire for

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something and it's just like it's just kind of dead airtime and so they found a

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good way to work around this while promoting the partnership with CML in a

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way that makes it look like it's more of a partnership because they did go to

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Arena Mexico and watch the belt be defended in Arena Mexico rather than

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just you know bringing in the CML guys and making it look like it's kind of like

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a one-way kind of treat and what I like about this going on jumping in the

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way of Rob cameras it they actually showed the whole match it wasn't skip

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here stick here skip here it was the entrance it was the whole match to the

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end so it was perfect I loved it I love the stop of matches we got to see a

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actual CML Mexican match if people who are just fans of MLW you got to see a

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whole match how they do with things there a lot of high dives out of the fast

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of that whole mystical turn that he does and then comes right down to the arm

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lock and they quickly just tap is because the whole formation down to the

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to the thing ground is crazy what I would love to see is hopefully in the

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future we'll have an actual CM or actual MLW wrestler wrestling there and then

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they take it okay we're gonna show you a match from here while we're doing this

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and then you show where MLW guy against the CML W guy I don't give the MLW guy

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losers I don't give a shit about that I just want them to actually show somebody

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other than Rocky Romero wrestling in in the arena you can see how packed that

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place is you can see the fans going crazy you can see how the difference of

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how Mexico Japan treats their wrestling and that's a weekly show that's not a

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monthly not a weekly I want to say two or three times a week shows and it's

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completely sold out so you know I think like from like Thursdays to Sundays or

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something like that that's completely sold out that packed so that right there

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shows you the difference of how other countries value wrestling to compare to

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how we value wrestling some of us like it some of us are just casual fans they're

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they're just crazy about it and they will kill you if they don't like it they'll

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try to jump in the ring if they can and try to be true if you hurt one of their

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favorite wrestlers so he did his job I would have you with it mystical one so

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that means whenever he comes back in May 11th you'll find the title here and

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you know whoever he has to wrestle and hopefully going forward if he still has

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the belt pass may see the dope part about that match is like you said with the

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crowd and everything this wasn't an American lucha match with American fans

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right like this was an organic lucha match in Mexico where those fans this is

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their product this is how they want to see if they love that shit like you said

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with the casuals a lot of wrestling fans are just kind of be like this is alright

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but over there that's their wrestling experience that match for what in

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post and they know those guys and they know what to expect so like it's one

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thing for us to sit there and go like yay flippies like but like we miss out on

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like you know the context of of the match itself you know the match itself

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kind of and it's the same you know for any culture like we can't just ship off

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you know John Moxley versus Brian Danielson and have them watch that and

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necessarily get all the extra nuances just because they're not quite as

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familiar with the product that product as say we would be and CML uses YouTube as

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their main channel $10 a month you take a father's out there on this was the

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live shows and then Tuesday they call it new child which are there markets which

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is what we translate to to their wrestling and they do that on on Facebook

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for free so they're hitting Facebook on Tuesdays for free and do a show there and

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then they have alright and if I do some days they do their their main shows for

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the reasons that they own and you know those are you two for $10 so if you

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follow them you follow all those guys all those matches like stuff like that

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like they won they had the females you know one of the first time they had a

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female tournament they did that for free on Tuesday there in Mexico and that

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shit was packed well you know why they don't do stuff like this here why we

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still cannot get a only female wrestling show from a major company still

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is boggling my mind every company says they have the best female wrestlers and

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in their company but they still don't want to devote a show to their females and

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ours sure it's half an hour or something it's it's wild because I think WWE could

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easily do it right because the universe huge fan base and and their roster is

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crazy I don't know what TNA is doing right now but original TNA the only real

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TNA not this bullshit 2.0 no one can tell me that if TNA said back in the days

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you know what we're gonna throw a woman's show even if it's 45 minutes

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with commercials people aren't gonna watch that woman's roster with Gail Kim

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awesome Kong Taylor Wilde all those amazing athletes and they did as what

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that's the one night show yeah they did a lot of those for females but never a

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devoted you know yeah main event is one of the offshows that they show like two

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matches you need to tell me you can take the very main event show and make it into

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a female show and give them more airtime exactly you have an hour right there

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bullshit that you guys are having two matches and a bunch of interviews and

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people talking crap you got to a female show right there you be the first

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company a aw we're the best now cuz nothing out money whatever and you think

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they'll do something like that and in YouTube with with dark and elevation and

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they still don't do nothing like that you know what and I'm well we'll

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transition right after this yes sorry yes yes they got Sasha Banks and kudos

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right like she did she went for WWE she did her thing in new Japan you know

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she's an AW do what you do right but think about all the names and it's a

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be there a W's worse than WWE because you got a guy like Parker Bordeaux

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skies the limits where the fuck is Parker Bordeaux Mexico I have a great

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Mexico Mexico he's still signed but he just debuted away yeah well

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well okay but your point but your points yeah Taya Taya was a big deal

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disappeared like bring a water ring of honor yeah they get a pop and then all

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right we'll send you over there right like and it's like all right cool you

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want to be on the B show you know I'm saying Athena is killing it right now

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behind the paywall yeah yes see that bro see that is killing it right for the

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last year in our water yeah and nobody's nobody see that unless you're like

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like right cameras that unless you've painted a $10 a month for four shows I'm

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not paying $10 a month for four shows and she was what Ember Moon right yes yeah

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yeah yeah yeah she was killing it when AEW and then we started getting the big

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time names they get shipped over here which they did what up with with your

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girl Billy Starks she stuck there now and but your other girls that you think

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they wow wow this is what they did with them Trisha Dora is there you know and

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you're like saying lady for us is over there unless they want a job so they're

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getting killed every week when she wrestles she gets pinned so what you

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only get to see them four times a week or a month but you got to pay $10 I am not

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paying $10 for four one hour matches per week

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$10.99 for sure $9.99 I'm not doing that no so I'm gonna admit I was super late

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to the party I was doing some shit and I had told the guys here both of the

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homies right here hit me with spoilers I want to know everything doesn't matter

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I'm gonna watch it later anyway so I said I said Rob case that's something and I

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said did the L.Heppy thing happen and he said yeah it's about the key the

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Matanza key or whatever right and I'm like how did he been gone for like two

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three years now he showed up once yeah he never mentioned he was the

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montage you know the Matanza key it's just mentioned that this is the key to

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open both you know you're imagining I mean open something is like the ultimate

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prize in lucha yeah I believe is the phrasing he used for it yeah so what is

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that I mean I hope it's not Matanza as the prize but hopefully opens all the

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things like maybe she whoever wins because the booger you know for now that

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has the power to book the matches now still and maybe I mean I mean now that

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the power is missing that person will be coming to power and take over the whole

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M.A.W. in the meantime to I like that I like that but it would have been but why do you

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think that's cool to me if they would have at least addressed the key at some

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point yeah I'm pretty sure they will when we watch the next show in the middle

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of April or they give us the little but but videos every couple of days my thing

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is if me and Rob have a beef and you're the booker right like say say yo who

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what it doesn't matter me and Rob gonna fight and he out of nowhere he's on his

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orange hat thing and I'm on my silver shades thing and he's like yo we got a

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match for this key where the fuck the key comes from I want you exactly yeah

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no that that's my problem is there's like he's just like this is an offer you

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can't refuse and then still didn't elaborate on why this is an offer we

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couldn't refuse you know this he didn't you know he didn't elaborate this is a

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key to my office where all the dirty government documents are you know this

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isn't Montaza's key which they which I mean if you're gonna drop the lucha

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underground thing the key always is implied for Montaza who they publicly

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you know defrocked on MLW television as Joe Cobb so like that legend is for all

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practical purposes dead you know because Joe Joe we all know that Cobb's out there

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killing it in New Japan and whoever else is gonna pay him stateside you know

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it's okay I'm gonna before I start like stuttering over myself because I'm

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getting I'm getting getting worked up on things this is one of my big pet this

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is one of my big pet peeves about MLW is that they will hype an announcement and

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then the announcement is not ultimately nothing and that's that yes they can

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explain it in the future and it might fix things but you hyped it now is the

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problem you know if you know that they're in you know we have a key but you

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know again is it a key to a bank vault is it a key to ownership papers is it a

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key to Montaza is it a key to some other killer brother that we that no one has

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mentioned until right now it's nothing and then you didn't in the promotions have

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you seen in the last year that they announced a big announcement only to

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deflate us with with the nonce witness but the difference but the difference is

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like I'll use Tony Khan as an example who has a big announcement every week his

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his big but his big announcement is never a non announcement it may let us

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down it may have been over hyped which you know again this is what a promoter

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is supposed to do they're supposed to promote but hit but his announcement is

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never a non announcement and that's what this was this was this is an offer you

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can't refuse it's a key what does this key do I don't know it's a MacGuffin man

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right here yeah this is this is what we're gonna fight for yeah this is their

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whole the power to staple papers yeah documents time for a document you have

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this stapler after where it wins you have the power to staple the biggest

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documents important documents of everything that we have in the cabinet

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I wanted this is what you were fighting for yeah so so I just sit there and I go

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like wow there's just I you know I bet I bet Selena has a bunch of keys too so

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she might be able to refuse that offer hey yes I the most powerful man in

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lucha yes what depends on the keys opening car that has a full tank of gas

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yes it does I'm fighting for that oh yeah I got like six keys here man

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whoo Rob I don't want to win your car didn't have to put gas in that taxes and gas so we

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definitely feel like that was the one miss yeah not the one miss oh no no no

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that there's a lot of things that I know well you know what someone else take

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over because I felt this was the only one miss I wanted you know what Rob take

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over what do we thought you host the rest of this show because I thought it was the

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only miss oh I mean like again I'm gonna stress in ring wise like the action was

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fine but like I questioned well I questioned the key thing I question

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they hyped the debut of Diaz I can't think of his first name and I didn't bring

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my fancy notebook up here with it in that he's like here's this new guy who

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promptly gets merked by another new guy that we have no clue who he is like yes

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that turned into a serviceable match against Mads Kruger you know like you

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so you already had one match that wasn't announced where a guy got nuked by

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another guy we had no clue about just for him to get nerked by Mads Kruger which

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I mean again granted Kruger should have merked him but you know like what was up

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with that and then like we had then we had like another full-on squash match

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with Richard Richard Diaz or Adonis and they brought in they brought in bad

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dude you know he got merked by Tito which granted Tito needs a win if he's gonna

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call out a champion so like I acquiesce he's finally earned his title

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opportunity on that front but still like this is something behind a paywall man

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and now we've gotten like two glorified squash matches for something that's a

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big event he's gonna call out a champion I'm thinking he's gonna call out

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somebody no one I called yeah he just we just went through the list of

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titles he qualifies for as a solo wrestler so like seasons like I want

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gold I don't care if it's Kojima I don't care if it's Ricky Shane Page it cool I

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do that on a weekly basis man like I just call out random people too I gotta

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make a thing here because when the Kruger thing happened the chat hat you

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know the chat's going back you guys fucking and muffled like yo who the

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fuck is this guy and Rob was like fuck if I know and I'm like oh man this is bad

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with the two guys you know the most about wrestling don't know who this fake

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cowboy guy is this is the problem what is the fake cowboy look like you know

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that he could be in a house fight against the one commander's you know and

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that'll be a meat fight right that's that's who it is that it's the two called

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mangers that's that's that's the other guy that was running around that one night so

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one cold man and to come man this could be a tag team called the manters two guys

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called man there's man there's one in two man there's like they want to think

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to yeah yeah the tactic both Cowboys both come out in chaps both roll area and

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then the tag team name is my fash then the tag team name is the two called

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mangers I'll be a cool name right at the two called mangers so you know what I

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got to ask because you guys are gonna make me laugh a little too much and we

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got to get back on the track again there goes the misses Rob came in he did the

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John Stock until alone I appreciate that those are definitely misses right I

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don't mind watching squashes Mads had to get a squash it should have been on a

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weekly bad that was entertaining though I would say bad do Tito has to show his

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dominance he's no longer he's a winning he's got a winning record 21

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21 okay Rob is like fuck that record okay yeah I mean you know he I said he

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earned it when I was going my little tirade over there like he earned it but

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like Mike and then my complaint is on this like you're making people pay for

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squash matches if you're doing it on fight TV Triller TV like this like yes

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right now every event MLW does is a big event just because of how they're how

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they're broadcasting but like there's I don't know maybe I'm old school and when

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I pay for a show I want a little bit higher quality yes and like so Triller

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TV like yes I'm getting a whole bunch of stuff with you with the Triller TV plan

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so it's not just MLW but still like in theory this is behind a paywall like

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no one's getting this for free you know whereas the YouTube shows like you know

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I might roll my eyes at it because now we're just doing two shows a month instead

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of having fusion but like if it's not free on YouTube like I'll give it half a

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pass because well you know what the only thing I'm paying for this is my time and

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so I was going to be watching a squash match anyway so might as well do it on

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free YouTube rather than on the $10 a month payment plan of Triller TV but

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yeah but like for like in both cases like I mean they did what they were

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supposed to do it's just the weird way they went around it again so we're like

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using a Tito yes Tito needs a winning record if he's gonna call out a champion

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like I'll be the first one that I'll be the champion of that cause that your

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you know your contenders should earn a title shot in some way shape or form and

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the best way to do that is to win a match he is now and he now officially has a

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winning record in MLW like yes maybe the quality competition wasn't great but

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hey at least you got a winning record out of the deal so good enough and then like

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the crew and then the and then the Kruger the Kruger match again it really

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did show it showed how dangerous Kruger can be in that situation especially the

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visual which I don't think they hype that visual enough but at one point Kruger

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was wearing the door the door yeah like they only showed him no selling door

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shots no at like MLW which is a gaff at no point went like this man is a maniac

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and had the like had foot and just like stopped the footage of the door wrapped

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around his head because at one point Brock just you know slammed part of the

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door on his head and like he let go of it the door didn't shatter the door didn't

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like break clear through there's just Kruger's bald head sticking out the top

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and he's wearing it which is an amazing visual for a guy to be like no selling

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and they just kind of like they just went like look he gets up from anything and

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then proceeded to ignore the part where he wore the door for a bit because that's

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how hard the door hit him but again told the story it needed to but but it just

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there's better ways to get there for both those matches I think and that that's

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where that's where I feel it was a misstep rather than you know the bell

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to bell problem not it makes sense I want to jump into the calling because

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that's Rob's favorite yeah faction so Rob lead us into the calling versus the

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team EMT yes well nobody knows yeah that match technically like I guess yet that's

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right that's next week my they had the they had a beat they had a beat down and

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wrap your up in barbed wire so yeah I mean that's that's always a deep visual

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so I'll give them that but yeah officially speaking yeah that match has

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been tapped in yet yes it but I think it's gonna go down to the lane you are

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yeah I mean most likely but you know it's well let's not jump into the future

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too much especially since I don't have all the details to make a proper

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argument one way or another all right so we'll go I'll bow out of that one yeah

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what about the main event Muffins lead us into the main event hey man this was

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this was war games or I'm sorry war chambers I don't care what you call it I

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was called at war games because I saw the first war games back in the 80s the

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horseman against the end of the team everybody knows the war games was made

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for the horsemen by the horsemen for the horsemen the horsemen MLW too if I can

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even even though the only one one match ever in the war games out of I want to

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say almost 20 that they were in and I was the one that where Brian Pillman I

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was guy he's neck broken by his same vicious and got a concussion I say okay

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we're gonna lose guys not because what are we doing right now hey man whatever

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yeah baby all day doesn't matter what year it is every day right here baby

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anyways that's an MLW where you get to her extreme horsemen MLW

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WarCamber used to be war games back in its first run in like 2003 and what

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was good about this they went back to the two rings instead of just one ring

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which made her bigger it pulled the whole camera around you had two rings and

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you could see the crowds from different places my brother came over well man

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they're doing that in one ring it looked so small I said no wait for a second and

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they did the aerial shot and he goes like oh shit I lose big in there I say yeah

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they finally did two rings like the way it's supposed to so everybody did their

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shit everybody killed it everybody was I mean there's weapons everywhere I loved

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it only guy too I didn't feel like belong there was Richard Holiday he knew

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you're gonna say that I don't know is like everybody else look like they belong

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there except for him like this is like I breathe

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right there for air and my air right now should not be in this type of mess here

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because I'm a family again have be or so shit in my air so I do not belong in

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this match that's the only thing that I saw was weird that he did just not be

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long in that type of match all then that you know you get what 20 minutes almost

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before everybody gets in there and then the match actually starts this is only

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four and four the UC505 so he kind of you know brings it back

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of course we knew the MLW team was going to win now what happens with WTF where

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do they go from here I have no clue what's gonna happen with them where do

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they go from here because they just took out a lot of loss on something big like

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this so and I don't know if you want to jump to the next thing that happened or

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maybe go get his piece despite muffins thorough and very good analysis of the

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war games match do you concur that Richard Holiday felt like he shouldn't

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have been in that match I mean he's not the only one I don't care like like because

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actually I had a bigger qualm with Okamura's participation

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because he just I don't know like just the way he wrestled he just seemed like

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totally out of place and like he just kind of like I don't know my opinion just

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seemed like he's trying to get his spots in and you know match itself be damned

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Okamura oh okay the other half of the other half of Cozy Max

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yeah yeah the other old guy that isn't Cozy Max and like I mean gimmick wise

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yeah holiday probably shouldn't have been in there he should have like pulled

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some you know if we're looking like purely K-fabe he should have bought his

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way out of the match but I didn't but but I didn't mind that much as much as

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muffins did like as a whole like I see muffins this point like I don't I don't

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necessarily you know I'm net neutral on it I don't know so I don't disagree with

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it but I you know but my agree with it is still kind of iffy but you know it is

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but yeah 3 plus 4 TF Loller and the two guys you know

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Babyboy and Bishop they looked like they belong there yeah oh yeah and there's

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injustice they looked like they belong there yeah yeah and overall I didn't

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really have a problem with the match overall like there's some moments I

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question I am gonna put over Josh Bishop who finally got to show out in an MLW

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ring he hadn't like outside of the his debut beatdown he really hadn't had an

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opportunity to show what he could do in the ring because he's mostly been just

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kind of like either a heavy or like his participation is just kind of like you

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know Abdon flowed like he would he would be there and he just wouldn't be there

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he never really got a good time to shine on his own even like when he was doing

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the tag team match with Tom Lawler at one point my like we like we had our we

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had at least one insane spot that Steiner brother like that avalanche not

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it not just the Steiner brothers DDT but an avalanche Steiner DDT through the

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tables on Tom Lawler like that was crazy go nuts man but like really my biggest

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complaint in the match happened to be the finish like I think I think like don't

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you're wrong like it you know coach it's not a bad thing for Kojima to be the

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one to be the guy to finish the match get the pinfall but we literally like

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just watch Tom Lawler possibly die and then we just and then we have like a

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kind of like a half lane larry it that was nowhere near the best larry it

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Kojima had ever thrown and like that was this that was the finish like he

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couldn't like he didn't even take holidays head off proper like that that was

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my thing is like they didn't even make it a great larry it where holiday could

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have like done a backflip or something you just kind of got shoulder and that

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like right at right after Tom Lawler was killed like almost immediately after

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that like we had we we get we get our little cocaine toss larry it and oh it's

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over

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yeah you know what just kind of like a way to work after that so if you had to take

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an MVP for the entire show one person who showed out the best what would you

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have who entire show the entire show I got to go ahead weapons I want to think

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my answer through well your well first of all chess boy AJ no

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cool

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it cool one say that one more time I think he's talking about flop dollar

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one yeah I'm gonna call him

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Francis is one and then to job Bishop job Bishop to me like you said and I'm

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thinking about it now Bishop did a lot and and I match and like you know he

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actually had one of his best showings in since like cameras is like his first

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debut so he looked like a beast that's why I was picking with Bishop yeah and

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Bishop did his thing yeah and like the more thing like like he was kind of like

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top of the list by so just really trying to like think was there someone who's

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more deserving but like really compared to what we've seen of him prior like yeah

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00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,720
he had he looked like a beast I mean being yeah he got to start the party off

419
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:01,720
and had that wild brawl outside the ring okay they started the match they

420
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:06,120
rang the bell but they still like but they had the brawl outside the cage to

421
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:13,560
start the party he you know he DVDed justice yeah DVD justice through a

422
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,440
door and then into putting Davey boy through a door as well as an oops spot and

423
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,760
we forgot to mention we thought you mentioned the referee or the manager

424
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:30,800
for the good guys was being a bill yeah we neglected Fonsi because he was kind

425
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,680
of but he was kind of he was kind of a non-factor though outside of like a

426
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,640
chair toss and he got and he got any works by St. Laurent who gets

427
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:46,320
murdered by yeah yeah so yeah so I forgot about Bill and Fonso another

428
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,840
another guy who works heavily for CCW there in Florida the Florida guy yeah

429
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,760
yeah um so we'll finish off with the greatest faction in MLW history

430
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,480
contra-unison they're gonna have new members and I thought we'd have new

431
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:09,800
members with the nest but since I death squad comes in they started annihilating

432
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,560
everybody a coral quan winds up being the first member back to the contra

433
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,480
unit and he's one of my favorite guys one of the coolest people I know outside

434
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:28,480
the ring um he came in and when we last seen a coral quan injury and then come

435
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,920
back he I think he did the quick uh with EJ and Dr. with the War Chamber and

436
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,560
then Contruder it was folded if you look he put on around 27 35 pounds of muscle

437
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:45,200
he's no longer that little cruiserweight size yeah the coral quan is looking like

438
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,640
a beast so he comes in he starts annihilating people he fits that

439
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,640
contra unit super aggressive take your head off and one of the coolest things

440
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,160
I see when they climbed up the cage yes and they hung the flag up and they were

441
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:09,840
like this is ours like bros we're back so that to me was super dope I am

442
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,080
extremely biased to my contra unit I want Joseph Samuel back how much of that

443
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,800
will happen who knows but gentlemen told me contra unit a coral quan sent tight

444
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,120
death squad the takeover has come in it feels like bro when I when I heard the

445
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,000
music I'm like okay what happened to the new member that they be talking about I

446
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,160
heard the music after the match ended I'm like oh god how they're gonna actually

447
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,720
gonna walk into the ring and keep going and I was with it there boy they came

448
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:44,600
out with 127 uh uh sent tight death squad guys with the helpers on crew came in

449
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,160
and then the coral quan came out and started did the first spray of one guy

450
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,520
and then the kick on the other guy next thing you know the bodies everywhere

451
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,760
announces are going crazy there's something like like a mean gene or like

452
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Bobby he's I'm getting the hell out of here you don't pay me enough for this and

453
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,840
the cameras are going crazy like you know in and out from different angles

454
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:15,560
beatings are occurring then people are getting you know draped in the contra

455
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,920
unit flags on the floor and then when you say when I saw the one guy climb and

456
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,440
then I saw crew climb the other side and they're trying to get the flag over

457
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,080
and I hope flag is draped the outside of the cage I got goosebumps brought to all

458
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,720
my something out of the purge like this is I'm like you cannot end this show on

459
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:42,720
the better way than this the flag just jaked over is just saying we're back

460
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:48,840
we're like we never left we're here we're taking over this whole thing forget

461
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,320
Emma W. this is contra unit wrestling going on I thought that was like the

462
00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:01,280
icing on the cake to finish that I get I got goosebumps I jumped like holy shit

463
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,760
was it at the center dead squad that took out Corbauer yeah it was like a

464
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,000
hundred other that took out Corbauer yeah it was it was it was inside number

465
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,040
number seven twenty six forty eight seventy two and ninety nine who took

466
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,400
out 98 to go out this guy and then they got contract you know the sentai guys

467
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,720
one through twenty seven where the members doing the beating inside there

468
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:35,280
with number fifty seven helping put the drape on top of the cage with number

469
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:41,320
eighty six on the other side so when they have when they do the next of forty

470
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,080
men battle royal what's the boss that choke all again battle right battle right

471
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:53,680
they're gonna have at least 10 to 15 sentai members it's Alex Kane and 39

472
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,080
others said 39 send a death squad you know rock next time we the seven the

473
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,520
seven entrance is dead side member number six and got a better memory than I do

474
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:13,240
anything crazy I need to know you got to answer which sentai death squad is the

475
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,960
guy with the flag and he has to remember that guy specific number yeah so we're

476
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,440
gonna have a member day on the battle right oh number entry number 37 is

477
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:33,680
sentai member number 18 yeah no it was a very good visual like the entire thing

478
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,440
like was an amazing visual like even starting the party where they had they

479
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,800
started by surrounding both cages and then it was like from there is almost

480
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,920
like like an old-school capcom arcade game where like you had your heroes you

481
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600
know you had your your protagonist your heroes standing like looking around as

482
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,040
all these they all the nameless goons come in ready for a fight and they came

483
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,760
from bloody everywhere like a vent you know eventually Kruger got pulled the

484
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,600
door off but while Kruger's pulled the door off the sendai guys were coming up

485
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:11,640
over the cage and like that was just a great visual and then we bring in a

486
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,720
Kurokwan who like I'm glad I'm glad like that well I'm glad we're starting to get

487
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,760
some named people and for contra that it's not just a bunch of sendai death

488
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,320
guys that are indistinguishable from one another you know we have guys that we

489
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,120
can actually invest in emotionally when we watch these things in addition to like

490
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,680
I almost didn't recognize them like honestly like it wasn't until commentary

491
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,520
you said is that a Kurokwan that went like oh that is because yeah he's like

492
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:45,720
it's like a Kurokwan 8 the old Kurokwan like dude's massive now but it was

493
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:49,000
great to see like we got a name in there and then even then it was a name from

494
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Contra's past so it is so we already have a link to the past so it wasn't just you

495
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,600
know bring in some rando guy that now has a name which that's cool like let's do

496
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,320
that too like I just want more named guys in Contra but yeah so we got a link

497
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,760
to the past on that and then of course he's coming in and like already showing

498
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,960
off like some of those nasty kicks and then of course bringing out the mist as

499
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,760
well and then also ending the brawl is Kruger with the fireball which we don't

500
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,560
see we haven't seen too many fireballs and my L left yes or and you don't see too

501
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,920
many fireballs and wrestling anymore in general as well so you know we got like

502
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,440
and you know we haven't even got the part where we're hanging up the flag and

503
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,080
those already like three really good visuals to be had right there fire mist

504
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,000
and dudes just climb in over the cage and then ending things with just the

505
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,880
gigantic flag being hung across the War Chamber itself you know is a message

506
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,760
that is well yeah that was great yeah one more thing I was there the last

507
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,960
couple of shows when they came back to Philly and I remember you were a core

508
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,480
of Kwant was the last member that actually stood with cruel when the whole

509
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,440
contract unit when you know started breaking off and everybody's had to do

510
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,840
on their own thing the core of Kwant was the last guy that was with with cruel

511
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,920
to the end so yeah they were beating with a pop yeah so it's fitting that he's

512
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,840
the first one that comes back and might be the only person that comes back because

513
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,000
he was the only one that stood with cruel to the whole thing so that right

514
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,120
did to me kind of make sense that they finished with him and he's the first one

515
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,920
back so it's okay cool they're my last question that we will get with him to the

516
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,000
end my last question to the both of you because you guys know better than me um

517
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,240
do you think there's any chance we see the Iranian super soldier the barry

518
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:43,920
probably not no I mean you never say no yeah I guess they never say never say

519
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,440
never but if you're if you if you're gonna want a real answer from me the

520
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,920
odds say no okay I mean I like a core of Kwant came back and now hopefully

521
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,440
they'll start getting some new members and start getting those guys from southern

522
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,640
wrestling where contract unit has been going half for the last two years and

523
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,320
you know and their guys that wrestling all the companies and we know if who

524
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,080
they are if you follow them but there might be you know these four MLW fans

525
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,480
which is cool when you start bringing some new fresh faces so it's the same

526
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,000
year old stale faces and you're right because before you said what you said I

527
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,760
was just like oh bring back all my you know former contract unit guys when you

528
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,040
said you know Kwant was the only one that stuck with him that makes the most

529
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,240
sense that mean you will bring us back and then we'll start ramping it up and

530
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:40,840
you know you work the car account was there when everything went down in flames

531
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:47,080
so of course you got to bring the loyalist person your number one yeah

532
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,040
your number one soldier which was gone to the end he never left to the end to

533
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,080
everything was over and then that's when everything you know so of course you

534
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,020
want to go okay you were there with me to the end you're the first person I'm

535
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:05,560
going to bring in because you're the one loyal and now you gave my number one and

536
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:11,440
get everybody else in shape and we go from there so perfect perfect you know

537
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:16,400
I didn't want it to end after the flag went down I wanted them to go back and

538
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,360
keep beating somebody I wanted other versus to come out like from the guilt

539
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,560
side trying to help them out like my bow bowing down their ass is kicked in the ring

540
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,760
I would have loved that to happen you know what they can't give us too much

541
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,880
of ones but yeah love that if more people came out and they were just

542
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,880
destroying them under second ring like dropping my guys I let's do both of the

543
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,840
rings we had a phenomenal ending I want to talk one specific topic with the big

544
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,920
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545
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