What's up everyone, another edition of the Major League Pod.
I'm Rob Cameron, host of the MLW Confusion podcast and with me as always the Tia Loco
of technical wrestling, Muffins Martinez.
Muffins, how are you doing today?
Man, amazing is the first day of spring and it's snowing.
Go.
Go figure.
The warming isn't real, right?
Yeah, global warming is real, brother.
It's real.
But we are back after two weeks.
We are going to take a look at once upon a time in New York.
But before we do that, I want to touch on one thing that's come down the newswire as
yesterday, I believe it was maybe Sunday.
I think it was yesterday though, because time means nothing to me overall.
It has been announced by MLW that Selena de la Renta now is the kind of like the actual
executive producer of the featherweight division.
What do you think of this announcement, Muffins?
Well, I mean, this is her second go around at a big promotion in the company when she
was there the first time she was doing producing, she was doing the translating, she was doing
the ASA with the Mexican United States.
And then I guess a lot of stuff happened back in the backstage and a lot of rumors and then
she was gone.
And then a couple of years later, she's back.
As you can see, slowly but surely she's back at that time.
So hopefully now this time she's older.
So hopefully whatever happened before with the rumors, it was just that.
And now that she's older, more mature, more business like minded, hopefully she'll take
this one and runs with it.
But it's amazing.
I mean, I want to say, I think I read the same thing and they said that that's like
the first ever like Latina woman, like with that type of title, taking over something
like that.
It's going to be amazing and going forward with the Mexican brothers from CMLL and any
other free agents out there that want to come in.
Hopefully she'll be able to go out there and be the liaison with those individuals and
bring them in and hopefully that May 5th show there in Cesaro is going to be like one of
the big stars there for her.
So I'm happy for her, man.
I'm looking forward to it.
So see what happens.
Yeah.
And on paper, this is a good move because if nothing else, she's got the backing of
court and the creative team with her.
So she's got she's got the oversight, but like any time a big company can make a hiring
a high price, a high profile hiring of a minority is good PR specs.
Old stuff right there.
And to go along with the production side of it, Selena, did she finish?
I mean, somebody can correct me on this, but I believe Selena did finish her schooling
over at full sale.
Yes.
So she's obviously doing.
Certificate and everything award, whatever diploma, the family had a party for her and
everything down there.
So yeah, she's all done with that.
And she's even thinking the first step further with the production things of, you know, hopefully
shows are going to come into the summer that she's been producing and even starting in.
So, you know, that right there is something that she's doing outside.
Now she brings that in into LMO W. And also it makes more sense when you actually have
a female doing something with the female division instead of a guy.
I always, I always don't like that part that the guys are the ones controlling the female
division.
I always feel it should be a female that knows what's going on, that could understand the
female point of view and go from there.
So yeah, especially in the carny world of professional wrestling that has very little
HR oversight.
I think having if nothing else a female supervisor for the division would is a good way to keep
certain things will say unsavory things from potentially happening or at least a safe space
for talent to go to, you know, with their complaints.
My only concern and this just might be like storyline TV leaking into my brain, but Selena
has this nasty tendency to bury the division below her in terms of like her promo stuff.
So I'm, there's a part of me that is worried and this could be again, this is this could
be like it's still real to me.
Damn it.
Moments where I see the character and I'm having having, you know, problems separating
the two.
But like, I know Selena's TV style when she's on screen is unfortunately she has this nasty
tendency to bury the division.
And that part worries me if that kind of like bleeds.
If it's one of those like, you know, it's a, it's a shoot bro or that's just, you know,
or if it reflects, you know, if it goes the other way where like TV reflects reality.
But again, that's the time will tell.
Yeah.
And then like half an hour ago, uh, Cesar or Emma, they only put out a tweet where Cesar
is inviting her to come down to the ring down at the May show to make her offer that she
can't refuse.
So this should be interesting.
Is it the May show or was it for work?
I'm sorry for the March show, for the March show having to do for the May show there in
Chicago.
So they should be interesting of what type of, uh, announcement Cesar is going to offer
her, but I'm pretty sure it probably has something to do with, you know, whoever wins
this battle there in May takes over, you know, the Latino section of MLW type the old thing.
So you know, we got the ward chamber coming up coming in two weeks and then we got, we
got that battle coming up in May.
So,
Well, and let's kind of like jump into it.
That's a good segue into the first segment of Once Upon a Time in New York is that Cesar
Durant, Cesar Durant had his, uh, well called state of Azteca address, which, which was
really more of him laying down a gauntlet for Selena at Azteca lucha, uh, May 5th.
And basically he's kind of like laid down, he was big about it, but laid down a batch
of challenges for her to accept on May 5th before he was so rudely interrupted, uh, by
Zeta and her BFF forever, Brett Ryan Goslin.
Yes.
So, I mean, obviously they're building towards something big with, with, with, and I assume
it'll be at the Azteca lucha show since it's, well, let's face it branded as Azteca lucha
not just a regular, uh, fusion or, you know, whatever generic wrestling promotion name
you want to give this event.
Yeah.
And also didn't Selena come out?
No, she was just for that.
She was just on the big screen.
So she came out, uh, but she was there via satellite, which I thought was weird because
she came as she had a physical presence later on the show.
So yeah, I thought it was weird that they had her on just on screen for that.
Um, but whatever.
The show started off with a bang because like I said, this kind of put the tone for the
rest of the show where Selena and the sense are going back and forth, you know, and say
that kind of gets stuck in the middle of there.
Like, Hey, don't forget me.
I still got to give my title shot.
The true number one contender for the featherweight champion.
Yes.
I don't know why she has to earn this honor.
So exactly that that make that's what I was thinking.
Didn't she already was the number one contender?
No, not officially just in her day.
All right.
I thought for some reason, I said, hold on, I could have stored shoes already like the
number one contender, but she was supposed to have say Laurent, uh, advocate to Selena
for a shot and then, but for whatever reason, say Laurent didn't want to have any dealings
with Selena.
So it never, like, it never truly came to pass.
And so this was her official opportunity, despite, you know, making demands for the
last couple of months.
Yeah.
So, so this was the opener of the show.
And I mean, this thing was like almost like 10, 15 minutes long, opening thing of just
them going back and forth and whatever, trying to set the tone for the rest of the show.
And I was fine with it because I was like, Oh, this is going to be good.
This is going to be a good show.
See, and I like, well, at the time I was okay with it.
As, as you kind of put it, they foreshadowed that foreshadowed that this was going to be
a very heavy Cesar Selena show.
And for me, like it kind of wore me out, like, because kind of a spoiler here, almost every
segment and every match had like was like played into this chess match between Selena
and Cesar.
And like, I get it.
This is an all encompassing feud for the company, but like this, I didn't think it needed to
be like every segment of the show.
And it kind of, it kind of harkened back for me thinking about it.
I'll get this since I've dropped an old school stuff.
I got it.
It kind of reminded me of the attitude era, specifically Monday Night Raw and the war
zone with the Vincent Mann, Steve Austin, were like, every segment like was dedicated
in some way, shape or form almost to Vincent Mann and Steve Austin.
And these things didn't, like, and at times didn't like further the storyline.
It was just Steve Austin stomping around backstage, like, getting ready for whatever
you know, revenge he's going to have for the night or Vincent Mann and his Stooges and
they're just talking smack or like, I can't believe Austin had the audacity to do this.
But I didn't like didn't like didn't affect anything.
And I felt like that's kind of like where we came into the like the show was that like
every segment like we would have some representation of the two.
And it just wore me out.
And like if we go down like the match card, like every like almost every match like had
something to do with it.
So like our six minutes this this this led into our six person scramble.
Yes.
Like which didn't officially speaking didn't have anything to do with the few.
But then, you know, we we did we had, you know, the bad to bad dude Tito match.
We had Zana versus Delmy.
We had the Lucha Mass match, like, etc. plus plus all the stuff that was just strictly
backstage to them bickering.
So like that part wore me out like that.
Like there was so much time you could have dedicated to any of the other rising stars
of the company or to put over, you know, you know, other appearances for War Chamber,
etc.
And so I should just focus on the actual matches that they had learned to do with says we are
right now.
It was heavy between both of them.
So well, I mean, we we we can talk about trucks because like I don't want to like push them
or push the other matches away already that they're involved in because like too much
we don't have to give too much time to them.
But like you said, the six ways gamble match wasn't once again, there those were two different
guys from the tag team, right?
Yeah, we like two spots on the match was taken up by wasted youth, which I thought was an
interesting choice for a scramble.
Now were those two guys two different guys, right?
Or were they were the same?
It was McKay and Mathers.
It was the original pairing for MLW.
The guy, you know, the guys that are the number one contenders for the tag team titles.
Yeah, supposedly.
Who won the match for it and were conveniently forgetting about it again.
And then the last show, it was a different guy teaming with one of the original guys.
Yeah.
And then they were stuck in another trio's match, which is which has been their thing.
And now this was a six way scramble and you have the tag team there, which I'm thinking
there's a lot of there's a lot of things I have issue with with like, don't make me
wrong, the match itself was fine.
It was fun.
Like, but like, yeah, it was fun.
And it's everything you'd want in a scramble.
Yes.
Like, it, like I questioned the use of putting wasted youth in there, like putting both members
of wasted youth in there.
Like, I also like, yeah, so there's one, like, it, like, we rehashed love dog and Brett Ryan
Gosling in some way, shape or form, like that either, like either just leave one of them
out or do we still have a few between those two?
I was this Latino Santana Rick Mortel thing where they're just always going to intertwine
and go after each other whenever they're on site.
And like, and then the inclusion of like Ichiban, like maybe feel sick because they were doing
something with him.
And now he's just in this match where it seemed like they're just throwing in the extra
flippy people outside of cannibal who just rolls.
You know, I really thought, and honestly, I thought each band was going to win this match
just because of what you said, everybody who was involved in this match.
I'm thinking each bond is going to win by, you know, the free boy.
Yeah.
So there's no problem with BRG either because let's face it, WTF doesn't get enough wins.
Yes.
You know, and in this, and in this sort of level, I just scramble it, you know, you
can win a scramble without necessarily, you can lose a scramble without necessarily losing
anything because like, if you're not part of the fall, eh, you know, yeah, there can
be some other concerns, but like really, like he wouldn't necessarily.
What I do understand is there's five guys like you said fast, but are agile doing everything
and you got cannonball, like the misfit of the whole match who before he comes out gets
jumped.
Jumped by the response.
Yes.
But the response, I'm thinking just like, wow, this show is just people just getting jumped
and you know, they're the different sides are just feuding against everybody.
It was just stable.
It's the gang wars all over again.
So basically they're building the ward chamber between the calling and the response and right
there is the cannonball thing and they'll get jumped or jumped nail fighting there.
So you have in the six ways camera match and at the same time you have the camera in the
back because they're fighting outside.
Yeah, but no fight throughout the night.
And then the thing is, since you've raised cannonball the way you have, you know, five
you know, skinny, flippy guys and then you have cannonball, like why was cannonball in
the mat like no offense intended to cannonball, but why was it in the match?
Make it a six way middleweight scramble and then promote it as, you know, you know, and
maybe not a number one contendership since we've already kind of determined the next
challenge for mistico.
But however, like, you know, you know, plug it as a way to put over the middleweight division
and like, oh, this match could have like serious implications in the middleweight division,
blah, blah, blah.
But instead we have, you know, cannonball in there who kind of messes up.
What's the title that the guy from the calling has?
Oh, Ricky Champage is a national upperweight championship.
Oh, they could have done that.
Like number one contender for that title.
I mean, that title has been put to the side because it doesn't even get defended anymore.
Yeah.
I don't even think it's mentioned on the show anymore.
Yeah, barely.
Like only if Ricky Champage actually wrestles, do they, do they reference it?
And it's been a while since that dude's wrestled for that belt or the last show that they have
with Chris.
Chris, yeah.
So it hasn't been that long.
It just feels like it because he's had it for a bit as well.
But yeah.
He's just going to drop that damn belt.
Yeah.
Like, or defend it a bit more, be a fighting champion.
Yeah.
Be a little bit more of a fighting champion or go the other way about it.
Don't defend the belt, but reference the belt and then do and be the guy that like actively
dodges the competition instead of just instead of just like letting everything be in afterthought.
Hopefully after the War Chamber, this feud is over between the calling and the response
because I'm so tired of this already, man.
Really?
Yeah.
So moving on from there, we have bad dude Tito taking on 66.
There we go.
I think all the other Tekkers are like 60s.
Yeah.
Like, I don't forget dude Tito is now signed with.
Yeah.
Like this is a match like I see and this is where I felt like a shoe horn.
This is our connection in there too.
Like I didn't feel like if they were just going to have a squash, he could have squashed
anybody.
Yeah.
Like, you know, especially since it's YouTube, it doesn't bring in a jobber.
It's fine.
Instead, we had a shoe horn, Cesar Duran.
And of course, we know anymore if you see the Goon mask and a bell's going to ring,
you know the Goon's going to get squashed.
It's just a matter of how much time it's going to be.
Especially if there's a big guy, you know, big dude Tito, man.
Do some monster, bro.
I mean, dude, like right there, like you knew it was going to be a squash, but just like
you said, the guy with the mask.
And it's just such a do or the Henta side picking up the wind to go one and all against
Cesar side on the beginning of the show.
So yeah, basically, you know, it's one and all.
Yeah.
And I don't think it helped Tito any.
Like I don't think it allowed him like honestly, they should have flip flopped Tito's matches.
Like they should have had Tito squash somebody and then have him lose to Riddle.
Like, and so like, so like, I don't think he gained anything out of it.
It was just, he's just a pawn in this overarching feud that like by the end of the show, I'm
tired of seeing.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, we got a new Japan wrestler here now.
So hey, big bag, new Tito's here.
Hey, and half of the people are more than half.
Don't even know who the guy is.
Unfortunately.
And he's been, I mean, he's been busted.
He's but for 10 plus or more.
Well, and I think it's the problem with that is they've been working out East and they
grabbed a guy.
So unless you are familiar with New Japan and all the workings out there, Tito is almost
exclusively a West Coast guy.
If I'm not mistaken.
So they brought in, they brought in a West Coast slash New Japan guy to New York.
Yeah.
So like only the hardest of the hard cores know who he is.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so like, I mean, I'm a nerd, but I'm not a big New Japan nerd.
So like my for me, like I barely know what he's done outside New Japan and even as New
Japan to me is just basically playing like third fiddle to TMDK and the TMDK members,
Zach Sabre, and then the classic tag team lineup of Haston Nichols.
Like, so he's like a third stringer in my eyes.
And just because I'm not familiar with his work.
And so and I'm not home from the West Coast because he's one half of the wall settings
and now he's tag team champion there with his partner there at the United Wrestling Network
down there and down in Cali now.
So and now he's the work contender for the title to go after the homie there.
Oh, God.
From the 5150 tag team that they were there.
Vivera or Danny Lamite or Slice?
No, LimeLite.
LimeLite, okay.
Yeah, so now he's the number contender to go after that LimeLite title there.
So so I keep up with him outside of there.
That's how I know him from off on the West Coast.
And then he went to the Japan, you know, got big up there.
And now he's like you say he's in the East Coast and if you don't watch New Japan or
the West Coast, you don't know anything about big that dude.
Tito.
So and you know, it's a big guy.
They should have done the squash first.
So that way we could see him being monstrous like and like and instead of just throwing
him in there where it was with Riddle and his foe New Japan feud that he was putting
over.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, what were we going to do?
They speaking of like other post squash matches, we have we have the in ring debut of AJ Francis
flop, Dala himself, taking on Mr. Thomas, who who he who was sucker punched earlier
in the in the week backstage by Thomas by Francis.
Hey, I was surprised by this match to be honest.
I didn't know Francis was actually that strong because he had Thomas a couple of times there
and looking like a rag doll.
Yeah, he's a big dude like he's a big dude.
And not that Thomas isn't that big either.
But Thomas is actually deceptively small.
It's actually like surprisingly small.
It's just he's bigger than everybody else on the Indies.
Yeah.
When you know, that sort of thing where is like Francis, you know, is actually like
six six.
Yeah, I think closer to six six.
And so, you know, so like he's a like an actual big dude compared to Thomas who's, you know,
just a jacked regular size dude.
He may handle Thomas doing it to the match.
They just kind of picked them up a couple of times like down.
He just picked them up like like nothing, you know, and I was surprised, you know, we
the ending was in no surprise.
We knew Francis was going to win.
Yeah.
You know, when does Thomas win a singles match?
Yeah, it's like, well, God, yes, it's big.
I don't even think ever.
I think it's against Jay Bougie.
Yes, I think it was.
Yeah, when Jay Bougie got included into the to the group, but it does nothing again for
the boomer a club, which right now is just like down to his last leg.
I mean, all the numbers that were there are no longer there if we even seen them.
And now Thomas just took a loss, which I also think is which becomes secondarily is already
in Europe, but it becomes secondarily interesting because again, since there's like no boomer
a's left and then he's talking about people may not be loyal, but then he just beat like
the one guy like basically the one guy who would and would have meant anything.
So like, so like I and if that's the payoff is that Thomas breaks off and does something
with Francis, like I hate those storylines where like where the big reveal is someone
who's who's been getting their butt kicked by the heel stable, like looking at like ACEs
and Aids like they're beaten down Bowie Ray every week.
And then he's actually he's actually the head of it.
Who knew?
Who expected that turn?
Okay.
Yeah, so.
So but we know we knew that, you know, Francis was going to win this match.
So now we'll get that one on one against Kane at the War Chamber match is coming right?
They're one on one match.
Okay.
Yeah, they they they have they have booked it.
They have booked and announced it already, which kind of surprised me.
I kind of figured there would be a bit more shenanigans first, which I guess there could
be.
They could have done that they could do something in the matches that happened at War Chamber
or something like that.
So I was kind of surprised that they've announced it already.
I figured there'd be a little bit more shenanigans.
Have like the little videos like, you know, three videos this week where they'll build
into that something will happen backstage somewhere they take and they drop it on Twitter.
Okay, this is the reason why the match got made.
Yeah, which I mean, you know, I mean, the match makes sense, but I just kind of surprised
it happened so fast.
But like, at least that at least that match makes sense.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was next.
Number one contendership for the featherweight championship.
Zeta, the Federex taking on friend of the show, Delmy Exo.
Yes.
It is official, officially official that Delmy is a member of S Tech Alucha.
They've been teasing it for since before Cesar returned with the cell phone, with the key,
with another magical envelope, etc.
You know, it is legit.
He has come out with Delmy Exo.
And I'm disappointed by that revelation.
I was hoping that it would be a actual legit CMLL female talent coming over.
I mean, we've seen guys coming over.
Why can't the females come over?
They don't have visas.
What?
I mean, the females don't have visas to come over, but the guys do.
Like I don't, I'm definitely confused by this move, but it, you know, we saw it coming.
I was just disappointed that it wasn't an actual CMLL wrestler because I would have loved
to see Stephanie Backer, who is, you know, the CMLL women's champion and who just recently
defeated Giaulia for the New Japan strong women's title.
So that would have been awesome.
She could have came out with both of those titles and now she's here because she wants
to get the MLW further with title, man.
That would have, whoo.
That would have been great.
Triple, triple, tier title.
I mean, that would have been awesome, but you know, it is what it is.
Yeah.
And my, my only complaint about this match was the fact that Delmy needed assistance
to beat Zeta.
Like I thought that was like a weird little like thing of like, there wasn't a whole lot
of, you know, distraction cheating from the Zeta camp.
Like, so why did, why did as Tekka 34 need to hop on the ring apron to distract, to distract
a heel?
Like, I, I that part like kind of like, infuse me because Zeta hasn't, you know, Zeta's
win lots or a certain record isn't like super duper stellar.
Like Zeta could have eaten a loss and it was just a regular clean loss and it wouldn't
have affected anything just because that's kind of the nature of her character anyway.
She's the loudmouth blowhard.
I would have loved for Zeta to win because she's been, you know, winning her matches.
She's been there.
She's been building her, you know, her stock.
You know, she was this match.
She finally gets that title match that she deserves because she definitely deserves the
title.
Now we get Delmy now in the steak out war with Sestar's side go up against a Genai Kai
who was the further with champion on the Atlanta side.
So, you know, so now we're still more in deep in this field here.
Well, as I said, at least in this case, like, I mean, we knew it was coming.
It was just a matter of when the reveal was ultimately going to be.
But yes, I would like to see, like, instead of just bringing in TJPW wrestlers, Joshi's
in, I would like to see some Luchadoras brought in, especially if we're going to tease this,
if we're going to make every segment and the Luchador battle between Selena and Cesar.
Well, I mean, they already brought like 10 different guys already.
And we still haven't seen that one female, you know, wrestle in AEW or here and they
keep bringing every damn guy in the roster every weekend.
You know, I'm thinking what happened to the females?
I mean, they do got female divisions.
The females don't have, you know, they're more lousy to bring over.
It's more hefty pay.
You know, they don't have the pay, but we're ready.
What?
I mean, we can make jokes that like they might have had visas, but they might have been revoked
after the whole last of them with the 20 other guys who had their visas.
Yes.
I've never saw no females name in there anyway.
So, I don't think we can one.
Like, I mean, I don't know how often talent is traded, you know, closer down south.
But like, let's be fair about this is that, like, stereotypically a lot of the Luchadoras
don't fly near as well as the guys who get all the press in the world of Lucha.
Like there's no, there's really no female equivalent of, well, Vikingo Junior, which
there's really no equivalent period of Pekingo because he's like, he's legit the best.
But like, there's no female, there's no female Misty Co.
There's no female star junior.
There's no female that's really like known for their high flying.
And that's, and really like that's, that is the highlight for most of us Americans of
Lucha Libre is the aerial ballet, the aerial chess.
And the Luchadoras are really bad.
Because of all the aerial ballet, what happened to him now?
Blu-Rau, he's me.
Yeah.
Well, they've been, I guess they've been telling him for years to slow down.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody's like, you gotta take it easy.
But like, but that's the thing though is like, but there's no like super, there's no Luchadora
who is known like, this is the best high flyer in the world.
This is one of the best is just like, here's the Luchadoras.
And then you throw in the part where like overall women's wrestling in America is still
not horribly respected just in general, especially by the larger companies who like WWE is going
to use their own crop.
They're obviously not going to be bringing in people.
And then AEW for as much as they're trying to be better about their division.
It's still like, you know, they have a lot to do with their women's division.
Anything of honors women are killing it, except you have to, it's all killed behind a paywall.
Yeah.
And so like a week now.
Yeah.
So like, so there's, there's not a lot of like large scale, you know, large scale mainstream
ask venues for women's wrestling.
So you throw, you throw in the fact that they don't have any proper name value up here,
you know, or, you know, or something that's extra super flashy with the fact that women's
wrestling on the mainstream is just not still not respected in America as much progress
as we've made for it.
Like, that's, that's my assumption.
But then that's, that's, that's, but that's, that's a whole, that could be a whole podcast
that could be a whole extra, extra thingy.
This is just, you know, one white boys from the Midwest's perspective about professional
wrestling.
I would say neck beer, but I did trim the hair off of it the other day.
So it's not quite so.
It's a bold, the next match, hopefully it wasn't anything to do with the Durand de Lorenza.
It's like the old, like the only match that didn't like, we didn't like throw in anything.
But that is our fast food breakfast sandwich taking on Davy Boy Smith, Jr. So Matt Riddle
and Davy Boy Smith, Jr.
I love this match.
They went at it.
They did what they were supposed to do.
I also read today earlier that supposedly MLW had put in a new system for a best match
bonus a couple of months ago, supposedly, and I heard that.
I didn't know if that was a shoot or not.
Yeah.
And supposedly this match won the best match bonus for this, this show.
So yeah.
So if that's true, they got their money's worth because I love the match.
I love Davy Boy Smith, Jr.
I'm glad he's back healthy from, you know, that emergency surgery that he had before
he was supposed to get his title shot, you know, and nobody knew when he was going to
come back if at all healthy, but he's back looking healthy.
He had his whole Canadian gear on.
So it wasn't those long jeans anymore.
It wasn't rocking the Bulldog 2000 look.
Yeah.
Yes.
That goes every time I see him with the jeans.
Reminds me of his dad every time when I see one.
The worst period of his dad's life too.
Like that.
And he had the Canadian thing.
I said, man, now this dude right here, this dude doesn't get inducted into some kind of
hollow fame when he retires.
It'll be a shame because he's been carrying that Canadian flag since his father died and
since, you know, Pillman passed away and all in a hard passed away and Brevard had retired.
There's like that, you know, and, and a storm had retired.
There's not that many, you know, Canadian good guys wrestlers left.
I said, for Jericho, you know, of course, Christian edge, but those guys are still, you know,
in the late 40 pushing 50s is still trying to think that they could still go and give
you five star matches, you know, so.
Yeah.
Um, I just go throw it out there that like it just like it may be, it may be sad to kind
of appreciate this match because I really don't want anything to do with our breakfast
sandwich friend.
Um, that being said, I am actually, I have good reasons.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm actually, actually, I'm very surprised in the booking of the match.
Like, so like, kind of like pulling back layers to the onion.
I was actually surprised.
Like I figured our, our stoner friend was going to win.
Like that was, that was going to be a given.
Um, however, I actually, I actually expected something to be a, I figured it'd be a bit
cleaner.
Like I figured it's going to be a decisive victory for him.
And it got it via roll up.
Not the, and again, I don't, I don't have a problem with that, especially, um, because
one, again, like WTF has been goofs overall.
So like having him lose via flash, like unexpected moment, like, you know, keeps a bit of the
aura of Davey Boy Smith.
And then to the fact that Davey Boy is one half of the tag team champions.
Yes.
Like I, I, I have always side-eyed when like champions are forced to lose.
And like, Brandon, you can try to make arguments about tag team wrestlers or tag team wrestlers,
but Davey Boy for the most part, like after, like since the heart foundation, like 8.0 or
whatever number they were on broke up.
Like he'd been pretty primarily a singles guy outside of like a brick tenure with the
Billington Bulldogs.
So like dude has proved his worth in singles competition.
So I was really happy just to see, like to see that they didn't necessarily bury him
by taking that loss and they let him go.
Bishop back.
Yeah.
And Bishop's back too.
Like they got like WTF was a full force for that for the night too.
Like for the first time in like a couple months.
Yeah, I was like, oh, shit, bitches, this is that cool.
So yeah, it was, it was, it was good.
Was it match of the night?
Like I wasn't my match of the night as good as it was.
It was technically number two though.
I, I, I think the lucha match was better, but that's, but that's again, that's, that's
an opinion thing.
Like, and they, like they were, you know, they were close.
They were, they were neck and neck.
So like I'm not going to disparage that being the backstage match of the night.
Yeah.
That was the next match, right?
The lucha match.
Yeah.
But before we get there, uh, court Bauer was supposed to have a big announcement and
the big announcement was that he got his ass kicked.
Uh, contrast, at least the Sendai death squad come out and laid waste to the owner of MLW
to have security and to a batch of wrestlers too.
There was a handful.
They actually, they actually had the wrestlers go out and try to save court, which makes
sense.
And then they had paychecks.
You should probably make sure he's still alive or because who knows what the chain of commands
going after that.
Um, but they took out a batch of the undercard wrestlers as well.
Uh, the, my only like dislike about it, like I had no problems with it.
It's just that it was still just a bunch of like randos.
There's just a bunch of randos while it, whereas cruel was announcing like, I have new blood.
Well, I can't tell because you still have those goofy skull heads on.
And you still can't understand what the hell he's saying.
Like I cannot either the audio is too low or that.
I cannot understand nothing that he said.
I wish they would put subtitles when he's talking just so we're going to do like I do
not.
I didn't hear or her or understood what he said.
So I have no idea what happened.
But I know that our guy is asking.
I know that.
I know like twice to say like later on we'll find out that they attacked him.
I see he was getting into the ambulance as well.
Uh, they should, they should have like dumped him over and like Ray Mysterio, him Brock
Lester, Sam T off.
Well, he's still on the back.
So the Vince McMahon, how many times he's like, God, God laid over from the actual journey,
you know, how we tie up and then just flip him over.
He won't get hurt because he's tied up to the things, but at least you think you he
got hurt, but.
But it's not going to feel good and I'm never not going to laugh.
It's going to hurt.
But yeah, like no matter who's strapped to the gurney, no matter like I'm going to laugh
and I get stumped because that is the greatest thing ever.
Especially it's like the only time bronze stroman's entertaining.
So he's screaming.
I'm not finished with you.
Yeah.
Dumps the stretcher and it's great and I love it.
Um, but yeah, so I don't know the, uh, the big announcement was going to be legit.
But, uh, Contra finally officially made a statement once upon a time and, uh, cruel
Krueger, I don't know if they're going to phase into the cruel name because they've
been calling him Mads cruel Krueger, um, has announced that well, he's got new blood
in contra, but I can't tell who it is.
So hopefully it's his friends from the Indies.
Um, but they've, they also just, just off the wire announced that he's got something.
He's got something cooking for war chamber as well.
Yes.
And he's been a participant of war chambers before.
So he's, well, he's, he's one of the, he has one of the, well, before they influx some
of the deathmatch guys, he was probably one of the more hardcore guys they had in the company
for quite some time, uh, with a couple of those weapons of mass destruction matches under
his belt, war chamber, uh, Buckley Brawls, et cetera, et cetera.
And they came back from the, from pandemic, the first time was, you know, the, uh, a contract
unit and that's when they broke us, Jacob Fatou away from them.
And then after the match, they lost, they went out to each other for like the whole,
after the show.
So, yeah.
And I would do it for that one.
That's why I remember that cause I was there going, no, no, no, don't fight each other.
No, no.
Yeah.
That like happened really quick too.
They went from, you know, everybody, like being on the same page to just absolutely
falling apart, like, like within like two shows it seemed like.
Yeah.
And it's one of those, and then to make it worse, it was one of those, the, the, the
death quad members who got picked.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like one of the main guys, it was like one, I couldn't find one of the main guys.
Ascended number 66 instead of NLW, their love of masked goon jobbers.
Yeah.
And their numbers.
Yeah.
So many of them, you know, you got, you got a number of them, even though.
Yeah.
When you get to the sixties, there's a lot of them.
Yeah.
I mean, when you get to the high numbers.
They should have just made a joke of it and just made it 69.
So we could all just scream nice at him.
Should have put it 68 plus one on the mask.
We need, we need to have jerseys.
That's what we need.
We do have athletic jerseys.
So we come out, come out like, oh, it's, let's take a 66.
He's got a basketball jersey.
The big 66 on it.
He's ready to go.
And just get his head taken off in 30 seconds.
It'll be a party.
No.
Yeah.
So we'll see what Contra's got up their sleeve.
And by their sleeve, I mean the sleeveless body suit of Mads Kruger.
Come War Chamber.
So after they calmed down this carnage, we had our lucha exhibition match of the night
continuing the promotion is Dorada as tech a lucha war as a Magnus took on star junior.
And to be real, like I thought this, this was my match in the night.
Like I was thoroughly entertained.
Like I, I, I wasn't like, I was aware of the existence of star junior.
And like I've seen a little bit of his work, but I was not familiar with Magnus and like
both guys just like blew me away with some of the stuff that they were doing or just
are just new spins on some of the stuff that had been done to like the, like a springboard
double stop, like blew me away even though like I've totally seen, you know, I watched
AJ Styles pull out, you know, springboard for 50s, but just because like nobody's doing
a springboard double stop, you know,
Well, I was happy star junior is actually star junior and not a little bit of starting
like the old dude, the son of star, because they're the star with the father and now the
two juniors there.
So I'm happy that he will we start junior and not a little bit of star.
So that was, that was amazing.
But another amazing match, dude, they went at it and I had just seen star junior couple
of days before, I think on the Friday night I a W when he lost to Jericho, well, after
he fought his father back in the days, they're like 20 years ago down in, in Mexico there.
So, you know, you know, TK got to get them first when they get announced.
Oh, you come in over.
Shit.
Come to our show first and you can go to the other one.
So yeah, so start, you know, amazing match and start junior one because he was with,
with, with, with Jesus fresh them now.
That's his arc with us.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he won.
So yeah.
So set for finally got at least one match in that he got it with a win.
But if, if, if, if you haven't watched this match, go to YouTube and watch this match,
man.
There's a lot of air, you know, proudest out there, man.
I really enjoyed this match and I always enjoy when you have the Lucha doors out there.
Now that it's tricky now, see ML all guys now and you like really see the triple is
guys coming out here no more or crash Lucha guys.
Now is mostly CNNL.
And like you said, guys that you've probably never heard before or maybe just seen once
or twice in a long time ago.
Yeah, so we get to see those guys now.
Right.
Yeah.
So like, yeah, great match.
Like if you, if you don't catch anything else from that, from that show, like that's
the match I think you should watch.
Even if it doesn't have any real storyline, actually that probably makes it better is that
it has no real storyline connection to it.
Well, it does.
It does.
But like, but a casual person, like I could go, I could go downstairs to the wife who
only kind of pays attention and she'll go like, yeah, that's, she doesn't have to understand
anything.
She's just watching, you know, the game of human chess in action.
I like their masks.
That she's a bit more educated.
Lucha is not not her strong suit necessarily, but she pays attention to wrestling because
of course, her mostly.
She shows up to me.
She's usually there to make sure Manders stays on.
Doesn't kill you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Or at least if you get killed, at least she's dead too and then they fight the body.
Yeah, there you go.
This is your husband.
The disease.
Yes.
I got some.
I know.
Here's the video proof.
Yeah.
I know him.
Yep.
I know him by the glasses.
Yeah, that's him.
But that that takes us to our main events of the night.
Six man tag and has you with the Henta or Cesar.
So yeah.
Who knew that they're going to let that happen?
Cody Max and Alex Kane taking on three members of WTF who hadn't wrestled yet tonight in terms
of Josh Bishop, filthy Tom Lawler and Richard Holliday actually getting this hop in the
ring for this.
Yes.
Now at least now I know what happened to Joseph because he had a big shoulder.
Leaf.
Yeah, he was wrapped up.
He was wrapped up.
Okay.
I'm thinking, okay, maybe that's why the reason we haven't seen him in a while is because
maybe he was nursing a little mini injury there.
And that's why he had that big as wrap.
But I mean, I love the main event.
I'm kind of kind of disappointed that a holiday kind of got stuck into this.
Not sincere.
Yeah, there's a batch of little things I can complain about being a professional neck
beard and whatnot.
But otherwise like, yeah, I thought it was a serviceable match.
And actually one of the things I appreciated is that they kind of gave plenty of time for
Okamura to shine.
And they hadn't really done a whole lot of that since his arrival of MLW because they
started the party with him almost being like a valet.
Like he's going to be here.
Ladies and gentlemen.
And now it's, and then it turned into like he's going to be there for his friend Satoshi
Kojima.
And then like that turned into a, you know, formal tag team as well.
So I'm glad to kind of like be able to see like some of the stuff he could do.
And I did, I loved, I did love the beginning, how it just started out hot.
And they got every, and then we got in the corners and did the machine gun chops into
a cutter by, from everybody.
So even Alex Kane, who's not known as a chops and cutter kind of guy.
Well the match did his job, you know, they got the good guys won the match, put it more
heat into the world chamber match.
So this show, you know, from the calling in the beginning to MLW versus WTS at the end,
those are the two big main matches coming up for World Chamber.
So, you know, so even though there was so much shit going on with the backstage stuff,
the in stage and the ring, all the different, you know, side partners and people behind
the closed doors.
It was a lot, it was a lot to process.
And if you didn't know much of what was going on, you were going to get lost because there
was a lot of shit going on.
Yeah, especially they crammed a lot into like the main events as well because they kind
of booked in the two big feuds kind of at the same time, just like kind of randomly.
Because we, yeah, the, we'll call it the LW squad, Alex Kane and Cozy Max picked up
the victory.
I thought it was interesting that Kojima didn't get tagged in until the very end.
Like he, like after these schmaws at the start, he was not, he was not a factor in the match
at all until the very end.
He's competing with Dany Eshu, right?
Yeah, he is injured.
But like, so like I questioned, like, why would you bother to put him in the match
at all if you're just going to have him stand on the ring apron the entire time?
And they should have like, and I felt like, and here's where my like, here's my fan, you
know, here's my armchair booking, neckbeard comes through.
It's like, if you're going to do that, where you're just going to have him stand on the
ring apron the entire time, turn that into the story as well.
Like they're, they keep, you know, WTF cuts off Kojima because they know he's, you know,
he's the world champ.
He's the one that's going to ultimately do the most damage if he's let in.
You know, I mean, we could argue that Kane is probably that guy in reality, but still
like, kayfabe brother, you know, Kojima is the world champ.
You don't want him in this match because he's going to do the damage.
To turn that into the story, like almost get the tag to Kojima and like, no, he's cut off.
Like, you know, whether through outside interference or just the last second pulling away, whomever
is getting worked over, you know, make, make that the story, but instead they just blind
tag, larry it.
That's it.
Like, you know, it, I think, I think, yeah, I think, I think they could, like, I think
they could have spun it in a way that would have been a little bit more satisfying than
having him on the ring apron the entire time, which again, he's nursing an injury.
He really probably shouldn't have been in that match at all.
But you know, at least he didn't have to necessarily take any bombs.
He didn't have to, you know, do drop kicks or, you know, do anything really strenuous
outside of like, I think the worst thing he did potentially to that knee was do the cutter.
Yeah.
So, and then they had the beat down after which we had a very long, you know, extended sequence
of beat down.
And it may go to have looked strong at the end, even though they lost all their matches
again.
Yeah.
Which is the MO of WTF really is to lose their match.
Yeah.
Now they have put the fighting titles at least, but at least they ended them looking strong
at the end with them all standing over the fan favorites, the face or whatever you want
to call them.
They stood tall at the end.
So at least the show ended in a strong viewing of WTF, which I thought, at least they looked
strong.
They think they looked strong.
And we got a little bit of everything at the end of it because AJ Francis came out to take
out Alex Kane.
So they rolled to the back.
And then per tradition, the one called Mandar shows up incredibly late to save his friends.
And then, well, still fails at saving his friends, though Justice held his own for like
30 seconds before going down to the numbers too.
So the crew of the second year crew and Cosy Max got to be together, even though they ultimately
got beaten down in the prospect of it.
So it's a good brother number six, three, five, whatever.
I get the sneaking suspicion that both the man's Warner and good brother number three
brother are not with the company anymore.
Again.
Which, which, which I, you know, I get because over on the other side of the Indies, that's
not MLW, old Banser has had a changed heart and there really isn't much of a second year
crew anymore.
Oh, because old Banser decided he it's been too long since he's held some gold brother.
And him and his one of his former BFFs, happy have been in a blood feud and poor, poor one
called Manders, Russell dads are going to get divorced and now he's, you know, part of
the custody battle.
Oh, spoiler alert.
He's on FU side because old man's are done spiked him too.
And it's great.
Love it.
Why not?
You know, why not?
Just keep going for it.
Go kill anybody.
Go ahead.
Plan, brother.
But yes.
So, uh, yeah.
We're next so WTF stands tall.
We are getting ready for War Chamber and this War Chamber, they did announce like just
to kind of like move on to the next event and talk about it just at least briefly.
The two, we have two War Chamber matches and they did announce that one is going to be
on the event itself, the pay per view itself.
And then a second, the second one is going to be for whatever they're going to name the
special.
So, so Cozy Max and WTF is going to get the main slot on the pay per view at War Chamber
itself and then the calling and response will have the War Chamber match on, you know, whatever
the YouTube special is.
Well, no, but it's still going to be on the same.
It's not going to be on the main show.
They announced that it's not going to be on the main show.
See I, for some reason I'm thinking that it's going to be on the main show, but then since
they won't have any tapings, they're going to put that as the Saturday show on the, on
the day of the show, whenever the show is supposed to come out and they show that match
in its entirety there for free for the folks who didn't watch it on the pay per view.
So yeah, see my assumption, my assumption, well, and we'll see, we'll see what they announced
also match wise because I don't have my thing pulled up because I'm not that professional.
But like, but a good War Chamber, I mean, by itself can take most of an hour just because
you got it.
You got to alternate back and forth.
And all that, all that sort of good stuff.
So I mean, if you're doing like a two hour special, like there, there's, there's a war,
you know, War Chamber is half your card right there.
And then you just have to have like two, maybe three other matches depending on how much
backstage stuff you're going on, that's going on.
So you know, so on paper, you know, this is kind of an easy book in terms of timing because
you have two giant matches for that tape, that overall taping that can take, you know,
two hours and in of itself.
And then you can have an undercard of, you know, go four to six matches.
That's true.
Yeah.
It's only two hours, not three.
Yeah.
So yeah, actually that makes sense.
So we won't see it.
They'll do it after the taping, tape it and then they'll show it on the Saturday whenever.
But this is going to be a big break because it's going to be from March 29th.
And then I believe the next taping thing won't be till like April 20th, which is a Saturday.
And then you're jumping right to the May 5th stuff already.
So yeah, so it's like three weeks there.
Well, but yeah, but still, like if they're going on the two week cycle, so, you know,
War Chamber is going to be the last, is going to be next week.
And then the YouTube show will probably be two weeks after that.
So it'll be like the second week of April-ish.
So like, so Battle Riot will be like, I mean, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's
tech up. So like they'll be like, yeah, I think there's some weird, there's going to
be some weird overlapping things.
So I, yeah, that's what I said.
That makes no sense though.
It's going to be, cause they definitely have nothing going on for Reds on Monday weekend.
They have like nothing going on.
So they're pushing the, the taping thing for the 20th.
I believe that's what I'll have read or something I have seen on the, they showed the schedule,
but now I can, but we'll figure it out.
You know, we'll see what happens.
It's excellent post. It'll be great.
Yeah.
But yeah. So I'm curious to see how War Chamber, like I'm really curious to see, you guys,
they keep giving us crumbs of WGF.
I'm curious to see how, I'm curious to see how most of those folks acclimate to the,
to the War Chamber environment, like Kozimax, because this is not Okamura and Kojima's wheelhouse
to begin with, though they're bringing back the two rings.
So that excites me.
It's less cramped, less cramped, but I'm curious to see.
You know, if WTF will, you know, rise to the occasion or if this is just going to be
another case of them, you know, looking cool and then, you know, wetting the bed in the
process.
Yeah. Because I remember when they started doing the War Chamber again, and I was there
the first two times, it was only on one ring.
Yeah.
And then that's, that's a lot of people to cram into one ring, you know, if you're not
going to have, you know, it's one thing to have like an Atomikos and have everybody on
the ring apron, except for two guys, but to like force everyone into the ring.
And I think that's one of the reasons why, like, dare I say, some of the War Chambers
haven't been that great is because like everybody comes in and then there's like one big spot
and it's over just because there's, you know, six or eight people physically in one ring.
And that's no real.
There's no real.
Almost up to 10 at times.
Yeah.
There's never been 10 people and then a bunch of shit because you got chairs, tables and
stuff and oh, where are we going to move?
There's not that much space in the ring anymore.
Like all this trash we got in here.
So somebody's going to get hurt for real.
But that being said, kind of wanting things down.
I'm looking forward to it just because War Chamber, regardless of some of my critiques,
is my second favorite event of the year after Battle Riot because I done love me a cluster
fuck of a battle royal.
Those are my favorite.
But if I can't have me a battle royal, I'm going to have you some violence and War Chamber
is violence, baby.
Violence for the second violence.
Number three, cold beers.
Whatever other bad man's Warner impressions I can do.
Let's take us home, brother.
Take us home.
I'm all hopped up on the caffeine.
Good job.
Actually hurts my voice to do that.
But yeah, so then we're going to wind it down.
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