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What's up everyone major league pod I'm Rob Kammer host of the MLW Confusion

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podcast and with me as always the diogenes of death matches Muffins Martinez

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how you doing today muffins well right now as you can see I look like a furry and

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I feel like one too so I don't know that's my normal existence though I

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actually trimmed this trimmed us down the other day I got a trim this down to be

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like a month and it's gotta go everything everything has to go I gotta

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get ready for summer everything gotta go now we got we got like another month

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it's five before summer hits it looks like it's weird again like we did for

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like three days yes exactly because right now it was 71 Tuesday 65 Wednesday 25

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and snowing yesterday and back to 51 today so yeah man beautiful beautiful

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weather yes exactly so getting down to business last night at least at the time

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of this recording was MLW intimidation games the latest Triller fight TV

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special event highlighted by the main event of old-timey rivals Minoru Suzuki

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taking on Satoshi Kojima for the MLW World Heavyweight Championship but of

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course we have a whole card to get through before we get to that point so I

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suppose we should just go ahead and start at the beginning of this year party

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and talk about and for me this was the match of the night the middleweight

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championship match between Misty Ko and Rocky Romero represented by a

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safe our ran and Selena de la Renta respectively you are our resident lucha

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guy so start us off month that's what you think I mean I was very surprised that

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this was the opening match I would like wow they're already gonna give keep this

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one early I guess they want to set up the tone for the rest of the night I mean

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this match did not disappoint this match was mad classic aerial ground attack

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and then you could think of they did I mean what almost like 15 minutes match

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and like I said I was very surprised that it was the first match but I guess

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that's how they wanted to start it off and started hot Misty Ko got the win so

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now here's the new middleweight champion takes it back to a CMLL down there

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in Mexico coming up already tonight if if you know if they don't have a oh yeah

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probably tonight cuz they don't I don't think they have a live AEW show and I

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don't think you'd be there tomorrow so well yeah so I mean that is that is

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amazing that the MLW belt will go over there I just wish for Bauer or somebody

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from CMLL will take some of the MLW wrestlers and have them down there that

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be also kind of cool if that ever happens but right now we have to have a new

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middleweight open champion and it's Misty Ko I mean I couldn't be any happier

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than this I mean match was a much was the match was amazing it was as I said

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this for me it was the match of the night like the two thing two things

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surprised me about this match and neither of them actually affected by

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enjoyment like whatsoever and actually the latter made it more enjoyable but

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one I was actually surprised about how slow slow air quotes it wasn't slow

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really wasn't really that slow but but I was actually surprised that the pace

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wasn't faster in the match especially with Misty Ko being involved but but

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you know Rocky doesn't know it doesn't always work the pure lucha style anyway

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so you know that makes sense and I was surprised at the lack of outside of

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your spirits yes yeah you know Selena has you know has not made any bones about

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you know getting involved if necessary and she she didn't do anything outside

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of yell at people so I was kind of surprised at that which is fine like a

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clean you know a match being clean is you know the way it should be in a perfect

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sports world but yeah no it it was a great opener great back and forth action

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I mean they really like Rocky did take most of the action but like not not like

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it wasn't anywhere near like a squash in an upset like and I will say like Romero

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Rocky like if he's not he like needs to be training people a bit more because

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like hit because his because his body language and his facials were on point

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and to like dude was just chewing on the crowd like really getting them go like

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he worked the crowd like nobody else that of that night to despite certain

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people trying to work the crowd like he was actually successful in like getting

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them going and that was really awesome to see too so the crowd is already getting

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hot for the action of the evening but yeah it was it was great yeah misty

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coach misty coach took the victory so he's taking the belt you know I echo you

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know your set of it's about a talent exchange being a true talent exchange

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and we really not seen anybody from MLW's and going to Mexico or anything

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of the life which I that seems like that seems to be kind of a

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court bower thing is like we have a partnership and the partnership is

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totally one-sided where they're just kind of leaching off of somebody so

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they come over we take their bells or they take our bells and we don't see

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anybody from MLW to go to that company I don't get it to be honest with you but

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AEW doesn't they having the BBC or the PCC whatever the host they call it a

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book what it was black pool of combat yes all four of them are going to be there

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coming up in the next two weeks having a battle and then one other females is

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gonna be there too so you need to tell me AEW can send guys over with no

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problems and have guys over or MLW can send one guy over well I mean Rocky

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from America's he already lives there yeah I guess I guess because he works

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for every company yeah he's the talent liaison for every company I mean though

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like you know we can rag on it and I can try to blame court bower but really it

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might be a CMLL thing too because if the news is to be correct the news is

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correct like they buggered up a bunch of talent visas here lately and from what

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I'm hearing it like despite being a nationwide almost international

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company given its talent relations like the CMML allegedly basically put all the

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talent visas on just like a random indie promotion in Texas and evidently

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something was just not kosher and the feds got involved the guys like dude I'm

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just an indie promoter I don't I don't want to I don't want to be in trouble

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like I'm not trying to scam anyone well the other thing was is that they use

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this company before for years and then I guess they found out that the guy they

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were going through the stuff he kind of gave the job to other people beneath

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under him and he wasn't keeping up with with it and then when they say well we're

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not gonna work with you anymore he kind of said well shit if you don't work with

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me then I'm gonna kind of tip the you know the government about this and he

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went and tip the government about the visas and now all the visas for like

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20 different talents are gonna be kind of messed up from now till past

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first of weekend maybe more unless the expedite is an expedition means extra

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money to pay to get this stuff done so unless somebody has some deep wallets

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it's gonna be crazy to go and get those guys but at least one of the names is

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not mystical who's right well I would be really I would be really suspect if

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it was live last night yeah he's been advertised for the main show in Chicago

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for MW but I'm pretty sure there was some other names that they mentioned

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before that now they have to scramble and get other guys who are not on that

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cold list so right yeah so but yeah so new champ another another step in the

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Selina De La Renta Cesar Durant feud we'll see a little bit more of that

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kind of come later but like they almost he's not got really excited like they

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teased Lucha de Hapuesta and then Rocky backed off yeah title title versus hair

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and yeah Rocky Rocky the one that lose those locks he like no no no at least

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no in such short notice get a payday out of it first there you go but moving on

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from that second match of the night was the New York Street fight the calling

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taking on what would become now known as the response haha get it so the calling

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being represented by Sammy Callahan and Rick Champage the National Lofiweight

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Champion taking on Akira and Jake Christ I thought that actually I thought this

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match was pretty darn good like actually it's kind of surprised me because I was

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like I'm not sure what I was expecting but like there wasn't really a dull

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moment in the match like they kept the flow going very well and there wasn't a

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whole lot of like downtime or spots or time taking to set up spots like it was

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just all like bam bam bam okay these guys are in oh these guys are out without

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like any sort of downtime whatsoever I mean they took a little bit of time to

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get out some ring boards but they didn't like build some weird tower out of it or

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anything like that they just went out got the boards got back in we did get and

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we did get a odd break to have the day of the re debut the return of the Blue

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Meanie he was hiding out underneath the ring so gotta get that going I love me

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some Blue Meanie which we should have figured there was something coming up

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but that back's the last big response promo what involved the Blue Meanie being

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the something blue but yeah just kind of like a bunch of crazy go nuts stuff

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went on it wasn't like a big bloodbath or anything either but we just everything

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broke down we got Raven back even though he didn't show up live just got Raven on

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the Tron and basically called this a civil war which I thought this already

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was a civil war but you know whatever man and gave a formal name to Chris and

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Akira as the response so I'm curious how long like this part of it will go on

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since they bothered to name it well I had a couple of issues with this and I

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had a little discussion Akira on Twitter last night about this so it's a

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New York Street fight everything is being broken to hell there's ball bath

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anywhere they're doing this doing this but the pinfall is a backslide pin yeah

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like you know and wrestling discussed about this so once again it's a New

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York Street fight everything is a goal everything's being used if if somebody's

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gonna get pinned and you want us to be invested in something you want us to ask

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the fans to be invested realistically what do you think that a big blow

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somebody getting attacked out with something a hammer a silver block or

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something a guitar or somebody going through a table some glass or something

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will be the ending of the match but no we ended us on a backslide well to be

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fair though New York Street fight the to be fair the backslide was a mechanism to

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the victory we had a low blow we had a field goal kick lead into the backslide

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so it wasn't just like a flash backslide out of nowhere like they were they were

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fighting for it and Callahan came in and kicked one through the uprights to do it

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well it's a New York Street fight you going all out I'm pretty sure you're

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not gonna get knocked you know you you gotta go for the knockout real good pin

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thing you know somebody gotta get knocked out and then get pinned you don't

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get pinned on it on the New York Street fight by a backslide that's one two you

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mean to tell me Raven is that them lazy or they can't pay my extra couple of

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dollars for him to be there in person just come out with a microphone say

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everything you have to say there in front of anybody on a live show on a

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Thursday I'm pretty sure you live close to finish somewhere up there you could

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have made the hour two hour drive to get there but no you can get this lazy you

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know promo on on our screen we were like come on guys like shit you guys are

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killing me right now with this nonsense so other than that that we are painful

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and the Raven thing I was really disappointed with the finish of the

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match because if you give me a street fight and we as fans want to believe

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this that to be realistic even though we know it's not you know or whatever you

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want to be realistically okay knock somebody out hit somebody with something

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to the point or he does not come out one two three oh wow that's an amazing

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street fight now on a backslide well I digress yeah we'll agree to disagree on

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that one again like I find the backslide just to be a mechanism of the fall and

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the real thing was the low blow like yes we're custom to like you know giant

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head drops and rando table spots but like but let's be realistic you know you

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know a good kick to the junk will end a lot of fights too true yeah I mean if

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you come to the junk and then you dtm or something I believe it not just pick up

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to the junk and then you come behind and you know do a backslide no man no Bob

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blacklands rolling in his grave right now he's not even dead yet no he's in

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better shape than both of us next next I wanted to throw out there just to hear

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your thoughts on it they announced that at a war chamber we're getting the return

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of Timothy Thatcher what did you what do you think about that oh I love this I

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love Timothy Thatcher every time he's done the matches here on those shows it's

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always been an a great match that he either he loses or he or he wins more

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pretty much he loses but it always is a team I said it's a fight when it's

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usually a fight it usually goes all the way it's just some I mean a good eight to

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ten minute match of pure wrestling I mean the man knows how to perform inside

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the ring why he's not signed somewhere you know why am I the

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thing you some more often this has been a couple of months the last time we've

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you see them there it's been like it has been close to a year really long I mean

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maybe not like I think okay maybe August maybe not somebody who's who got

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knocked out and maybe he got knocked out against he got against hot sauce Tracy

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Williams he got yanked he got yanked oh when they did the yank off the rope

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DDT spot he landed that was like well I think August maybe September yeah so I

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mean it's been a bit like so why he doesn't lose every month or even on the

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tapings is beyond me the do so professional he gives you a hundred

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ten percent every match that he does so I don't really understand why but I I

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really I was like yes yeah that's just back yes that is pretty much my exact

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response is like especially once he's been cleared to wrestle he's been

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wrestling like yeah he's like he wasn't down for terribly long with with with

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that injury I was expecting to be a little Japanese wrestler but it's

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attached I'm like yes all right that's gonna be a good match and hopefully he's

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part of the actual show and not the tapings so and maybe both I like to see

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them both well we'll have to see because War Chamber usually takes a sweep at a

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time and and they're running slightly at least in terms of the televised product

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or running slightly shorter shows so we will see yeah so and the faux war games

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takes at least a half hour yeah so it might well we will see like how time it

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goes on but like I other way but they did I say they did say War Chamber so he

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might be on the main card now do you think did they mention what who's gonna

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wrestle yeah or no they mentioned not yet they just said he's making his return

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and unless something popped to the popped along the email or the social media that

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I haven't been able to check the last I'm hoping I'm hoping you'll be something

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between a Cesar and the renta you know the goal for their factions going out of

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there now that's what I would love to see I don't know if that's gonna happen but

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oh yeah well they know it's oh you mean for the war games itself yeah okay I

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thought we're still on thatcher of the Cesar Cesar implied during during his

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promo after women's match that that he was laying down laying down a challenge

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and I'm and like it's me he sound it sounded like he said it was for war

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chamber but I couldn't tell I couldn't quite tell if he meant it the chamber

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match itself okay or something another challenge for war chamber well for

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these them hopefully I mean I mean there's only really two ways to go about

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it I feel and that's either like either the fact of the faction war between

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Selena and Cesar or the other way the other way to go about it would be WTF

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versus guys WTF refuting with so like at the moment it would be like WTF versus

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like second-tier crew and cozy or something something like that but

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that's just that that's just wild speculation I haven't haven't seen much

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of anything they didn't didn't we mentioned also that didn't Jimmy Lloyd

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yeah Jimmy Lloyd is back to you which which he yeah he's citing with the

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response as well yeah so I guess that could that could be a thing that could

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be a thing too because yeah yeah yeah exactly I guess a all I need is like for

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traditional stuff all they need is like basically one more person aside aside

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and yeah and all the guys already have four yeah we can't all and in Teflon

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or Tana whatever yeah Talon and even then like they need to bring back mr.

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Dr. Cornwallis because that was like the best name in wrestling I missed

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yeah so yeah yeah so yeah it could be something like that I guess it just

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depends on where they want to go so I guess they do now that now that we sit

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there and think about it out loud like they actually have a several ways they

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can go about the war games as well so which I mean honestly like I'm psyched

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regardless what they do I enjoy war games or war chambers use me it's my

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second most favorite MLW events after Battle Riot just because I love me a

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good battle royal and that's that's that's a neat thing but yeah so but I

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forgot about Jimmy Lloyd being the match after this because it's brilliant like

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I'll throw it out there I'm not a big Jimmy Lloyd fan though I was interested

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what him becoming a broski number one with Matt Cardona that that was that I

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thought that was going to be interesting but they're not doing that in MLW and

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he wasn't rocking the broski gimmick when he showed up last night so my

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interest in him just kind of went way down and I'm salty that he's getting

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title shots and I'm not getting title shots yeah they'll maze coming the maze

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coming maze coming but yeah you're my agent for this and have you like I

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haven't heard it nothing's come down my way so you got time heck and and

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sport and maybe my shot at the tag team title just magically dissipated but we'll

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cover we'll cover that here in a bit next is the big rebirth of Alex

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Kane his first singles match since losing the title taking on the returning

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Bobby Fish I'll play it on the table I was not a big band of this match like it

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just it fell flat for me like it was kind of just a nothing burger like Bobby

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pretended it was Memphis except nobody cared like he kept like Geo Jack with the

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crowd and he didn't get it a response yeah like I did pop for you he pulled my

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hair when fish is rocking up you know the shiny head right now I popped for

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that but like it was like nothing like there was no energy to the match it just

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seemed like an assortment of video game maneuvers like back and forth and so I

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like I'll get your thoughts and then we'll talk about the aftermath of the

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match well I was surprised that this match was lower I thought it was gonna be

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maybe like semi-main event because of Kane being the champion last month for

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the last six months so it was he actually became the third match of the

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nice no that's kind of low for your ex champion and I love Bobby Fish you know

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he's a he's a good wrestler I actually I mean it wasn't a tough match per se but

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it wasn't in bad match either I actually there's nothing wrong with it it just kind

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of meh like it was it was just like he it was paid like if I could speak ill of

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it it was basically heatless filler almost which is actually kind of

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disrespectful to your world champ he just kind of never got out of the first gear

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yeah like it like it's yeah they just they were kind of slow and then they

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slowed down from there yeah exactly just never kind of got out of the gear and

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stuff like that but you know I don't maybe I just expected more because Kane's

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been you know doing very well for himself and Bobby Fish is a really good

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wrestler and I was surprised he actually you know how to pass out in the menu

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breast oh wow okay I wasn't expecting that and that was finish and like that was

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weird too like almost like it wasn't planned just the ref called it like

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before like they didn't lock it like he he didn't lock in the body scissors like

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they were still standing in the roughs just like bring the band he went down

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and you see Bobby just coming yeah so like it was all like weird and they

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didn't get out of first gear like so like I mean on paper there's nothing

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wrong with the match but like but that again like but like given the talent

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that was involved like it should have been better I expect them or yes yes but

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I guess really it was just to set up what happened next with the physical debut of

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Flopdala himself AJ Francis also he was on two shows at the same time last night

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oh god there's two manders running around and now there's two Flopdala's yeah

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what is the world coming this is the worst timeline this is that's what it is

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this is the worst timeline two Flopdala's two one called manders yes he was in a

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tag team match at NTA last night so but I don't know they're in made it to New

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York I feel like that fact is cooler than what we got live because like his

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promo didn't like outside of like one line towards the end like that promo did

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nothing for me he just basically came out and was like look at me I flopdala I

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make money which I don't really cuz man he's actually pretty good but is boom

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I get him by my game yeah bum I a yeah like yeah like he did like grandpa level

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puns and the only thing out of that those might be worth its weight and that's

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if that is if it's true and they follow up on it is that he referenced that

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someone in the Boma a camp is not as loyal as King thinks they are which I

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think is interesting but then on the flip side of that like let's face it on

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screen there really isn't much of a Boma a fight club anymore yeah no what

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happened to what happened to our jay booji what happened to the other guy

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I say Edwards yeah Edwards I mean I think that's all I'm like once or twice in a

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tag team match and now I know booji still reps still reps Boma a on the

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indies I can't say for Edwards I know he he'll reference the Boma a but like

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he's he's not like all in he doesn't seem to tag Alex Cain and things or

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wherever we're booji is all in on it but yeah but like functionally speaking in

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MLW really Boma a is just Alex Cain and Mr. Thomas and Faye Jackson and

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and I'm done King whenever whenever Don Keisha I hope I hope Don King is the

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one that turns that's what I want that would be great that that would be the

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best case scenario you dropped out the belt so now I'm moving from you to Boma

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a now get the real money to somebody else so hopefully we'll have a different

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outfit on this time yeah but but I am I am morbidly curious curious if they if

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this wasn't just an off the cuff comment and this is something they're

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actually planning because again like Boma a is only three people right now and

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no one's gonna like no one's gonna care Faye Jackson turns yeah and so that

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leaves Mr. Thomas which is which is interesting because also interesting

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because Thomas and Francis are going to be face facing each other well facing

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at the next but at the tapings last night they they they were supposed to

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face each other for whatever the I forget what the next big YouTube show is

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called a new beginning or something from New York or something like that yeah but

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so I'm kind of interested to see like if that's that was a real line and they're

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that's if they're gonna push especially with those with mr. Thomas and Francis

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gonna have in a match or if that was just if that was just Francis just

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spouting off saying whatever he thought of at the moment to try to try to crowd

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and work yeah but yeah so again like that like to me though like I don't have

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much use for AJ Francis either I don't think I think he I think he's well

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overrated in his own head but he's also weird I'll give him that yes we're

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cuz they had Cardona and Cardona did a lot and does what five months he was

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there Francis came in and is that is doesn't see that it doesn't have the same

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effect or big big-time eyes like Cardona day when he came in last year well and I

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think that's just because it's two different two different kinds of

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performers like Cardona is actually like Cardona has made himself a cult of

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personality like well he's always been kind of a cult of personality he's

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always been like large and in your face and bombastic and really good at

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manipulating social media Francis on the other hand like don't get wrong he's

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hustling I will give him that he is hustling he's putting in the work but

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he doesn't have I don't think he he doesn't have the charisma Matt Cardona

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has let's just put it out there he he's not that charismatic overall and he's

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not that great of a wrestler either and so you put like those things together

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with some alleged leaves which compared to other people's

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alleged like I don't I it's not that big of a deal but like I don't the man

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doesn't do much for me so I don't because I don't think I don't think he's very

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good on the mic and I he's not very good in the ring at all and then crazy how

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all this ex totally guys are free but they're resting for like every independent

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company they could find all our wants like they're here they here they here

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they here you like do like how many places you're gonna be all our one

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you know TNA MLW and the way our destiny all in other places and you like you got

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a straight you got a strike whether the iron's hot because that window shit like

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slow down do like I know you're free after being in years of what being

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locked down but doesn't mean that you're gonna just sell yourself to every

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company just get money and be seen no no that's exactly what you got to do

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because because unless you're Cardona who can successfully like who's like a

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marketing machine like that's the only way you're gonna continue to make

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yourself relevant is by putting yourself out there and getting all I'll get as

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many eyes on you as possible you know like Cardona has the luck of like being

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like a super popular guy who's you know that he's got the leg up on everyone but

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he's also become a super popular guy through the through the combination of

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very hard work and being able to read the fan base and that's not something

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everybody has or you have other people like say Mustafa Ali basically like

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he's getting by basically because well kind of like Cardona he was almost

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criminally underused by WWE and like had basically said like hey these are things

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here's stuff like I've wanted to do and was told no yeah and now I'm gonna do

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that and so like every he's got all the eyes on him you know that Cardona was

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kind of the same the same way that's not you know not everyone but like you got

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to strike why that why people remember who you are so you're not just you know

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those guys who did like three job matches back in the 90s who just would slap a

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WWE or WWF logo on their indie photos like you got strike by that I was hot

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and people actually remember who you are regardless I'm actually really surprised

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by that too because I because I feel like he would like especially for a

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short term like what the equivalent of we'll say like two months like four

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shows two months like I you know I think you make a pretty big impact no

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pun intended but you know you know I don't know I I don't know the backstage

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meetings of MLW I don't know like I don't know who how much money's paid out to

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individuals and how much money they're willing to spend on individuals or you

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know it might be it might be all in a Ali baby doesn't want to do it you know

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who knows you know anyway but you know we can speculate things all we want and

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yes but we could dedicate a whole nother podcast of that we were supposed to be

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talking about we were supposed to be talking about intimidation games right

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now I guess next is the tag team title match second-gear crew taking on the

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WTF faction filthy Tom Lawler and the man who doesn't wash his hands

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David Boy Smith Judy as elves that was funny that was better than it had that

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was better than it had any right to be and I will say we complain and as much as

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we complain about WTF like I am actually a big fan of like their backstage

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shenanigans like like yeah I'm not always a big fan of MSL when he talks but

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like anything like Tom Lawler does like he's giving it his all and he's

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hilarious and then like you had Davey boy in there like he was almost like the

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last one I expected to be doing that's kind of stupid stuff but yet he was the

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star of that second I thought the bad thing was funny I love the match just

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watching watching his eyes bulge as he's like giving everybody a hug and cutting

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the probe I love the whole match I love the whole thing how everything was set

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up and I love the fact that finally don't you have finally you want to match

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a tactic match at that and finally want some gold I mean cuz this guy's been

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going now for this September of last year or October pretty much I guess

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they're actually even August because because Cardona was the draft pick of

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the WTF and no gold whatsoever and they finally want to go and I could assure

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this thing with the helmet I seen them do that before I think like Davey Boy

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Smith done that same thing somewhere else before I don't know if it's double

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dirty of days when he was there I don't remember but for some reason when I saw

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the helmet I could assure he's done sometimes is before and now we're gonna

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see him with them help me everywhere now hmm well maybe people quit beating up

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mr. St. Laurent maybe maybe he won't have to come down dressed up like a mummy

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in various hard things to dinky on the head with it is funny how our Brian

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Gossler came out to help him trying to get him up and he's fighting all over

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the place overselling the ship right now so yeah that was something that kind of

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surprised me is they find like they pulled the trigger on BRG being in WTF

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yes it's which still seems like relatively random to me because he was

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Becca's boyfriend and then became shopping buddy for Zeta and now now he's

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just part of WTF like okay well at least at least with him involved like they

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have a guy who could take pinfalls and it makes sense

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whereas like anybody else WTF like they shouldn't be losing near as much as they

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do which we've talked about and I will reference again here coming it coming

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into my my chunk of the match where like it was a serviceable match but like

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really like I couldn't get excited for the WTF victory just because they've

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been goobers for so long like they've been jobbing out left and right for the

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most part like yes they kind of had to come back with Tom Tom beating justice

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and Davey Boy beating Manders so like they made a bit of a comeback there but

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like for that that doesn't necessarily erase six months of guberdom where

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they're not really winning any matches like whatsoever and like all the sudden

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there's vicious junior in

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I don't know yeah I haven't seen one I hope he's still part of the group of

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a vicious I was calling vicious dream yeah

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yeah baby hamstone baby vicious what you know whatever you want to call it

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yeah yeah a big leached one guy yeah joshua bishop yeah I don't know how you

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see me a while but they kind of do that where it's like rando folk will pop in

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and out because like we don't see much of holiday always either but like we saw

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him backstage at burning crush where he was part of the backstage shenanigans

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with second-gear crew and cozy max so like I think they just kind of come in

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and out wherever they're needed and they just use whoever's right there at the

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moment so I don't know maybe yeah so I'm gonna knock on wood that he's still

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there because I think this is a good launching this could be a good launching

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point for him for a due for especially like Kevin that the roster for LW size

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wise isn't that big overall and so a guy that's bishop size you know looks like a

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giant so I think he had he he can have something go in there but you know I

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also say the same thing about like Oshay Edwards and they proceeded to do

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nothing with him whatsoever but but yeah the match was serviceable you know I

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was I was kind of surprised I was kind of surprised that WTF won I shouldn't

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have been like they were pointing all the ways to WTF winning I couldn't get

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into it because they've been goobered despite the fact that manders shit the

421
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,720
bad and got dunked on the head and lost which no sulfur and no self-respecting

422
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,040
I would is just gonna go down due to getting hit in the head with a

423
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,400
motorcycle helmet that's just called Saturday night here ladies and gentlemen

424
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,280
um you know it's manders that's probably why you got dunked on the head

425
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,960
but there's manders number two running around being a stunt double or something

426
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:58,280
you're a help anybody your hatred for manders like no no boundaries no because

427
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,960
evidently I am the only one the season that that man is a menace I'm not crazy

428
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,720
not crazy at all lay down the facts manders is a menace and now there's two

429
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,160
manders running around but one of them is kind of a whip because he's got dunked

430
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,360
on the head and knocked out like some sort of not iowan wimp so I don't know

431
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,040
what's going on there those helmets they actually hurt so well they hurt but if

432
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,240
but if you if you're you're upset cuz the guy got kicked in the deck and lost

433
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:34,280
a man so it was a fast ride on a on a New York Street fight and then I a street

434
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:42,720
fight and this this was a roll-up from a guy in the UFC so magics so magic matches

435
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:48,200
two different type of matches manders is just as hardcore as everybody else in

436
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,960
that that one match but that being said yeah I was surprised I actually was

437
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,920
surprised WTF got it but like it still fell flat for me because they've been

438
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,640
goobers all the this time though like it really needed again like we've said it

439
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440
like every month or every two weeks really when we have this pot you know

440
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:14,480
that they needed something to get a win to make themselves a threat one more

441
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,240
thing of what you mentioned earlier from the second match they need to get the

442
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:25,800
open weight title away from ARSP because that belt is not being defended at all

443
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:34,200
any show yeah I think the bill off already and given just you know do

444
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,760
something with it cuz that belt is just losing meaning I just thought about yeah

445
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080
it's kind of an afterthought considering that the middleweight championship is

446
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,240
kind of the crown jewel right now of the Cesar Durand Ceylon Ceylon de la Renta

447
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:53,360
feud and then you know by proxy the tag titles have had some quasi meaning just

448
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,360
because they've been prominently featured like with the second year crew like

449
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
regardless if they're singles matches or not like you see the second year crew

450
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,260
together they got the titles whereas you don't always see the title with

451
00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:07,320
Ricky Shade Page like and they don't like rep they don't always reference that

452
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:16,000
he's a national of the weight champion as well but yeah so I don't know but

453
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,320
yeah maybe maybe it'll maybe maybe we'll get a match next month and they'll do

454
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:27,000
something with it with this whole Civil War Carcosa storyline calling in

455
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:35,800
response and whatnot but next uh next we have the $5,000 five minute challenge

456
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160
and this match I'm gonna keep the hat on for this because I'm gonna start

457
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,520
rattling on incoherently for this one too except this one will make a bit more

458
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,560
sense than me just ratting on Randers like I normally do but yeah I'm just

459
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,320
gonna take it away and then you can correct me or calm me down or whatever

460
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,440
it is but yes the $5,000 challenge with Janiakai I didn't write down I did write

461
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,800
down who it was but it's in my notes somewhere else maybe I'll take some

462
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,200
extra time to look unprofessional to find it yes Zoe Cannon answered the

463
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:11,040
challenge for Janiakai she needed the last five minutes or or actually win to

464
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,960
get five grand this match was pretty much exactly how I thought this match was

465
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,920
going to go it would lasted like from Bell to Bell like five seconds like 20

466
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,160
seconds if you and once once everybody got into the ring all that stuff but it

467
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:31,800
was a push kick a pump kick ref stops it which on paper is fine but the problem

468
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,440
is is they did this and they didn't do anything to follow it up you you really

469
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,520
if you're gonna do this on a big show and really hype up the challenge aspect of

470
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:47,360
it then you need to use it as a cog to make it a next step in a story and they

471
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,720
didn't do that at all there was no surprise debuts there was no surprise

472
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:57,640
returns there Selena did Selena didn't even get on the mic and be like fuck

473
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:04,120
y'all this division sucks we're on top like we didn't even get that like all

474
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,480
we got all we got out of this is we did go backstage with a clapping

475
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Cesar Durand who basically called this a squash match which it was mind you but

476
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,240
you're on screen talent should not be saying things like this because I that

477
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:25,560
makes it deval especially in this situation it almost deval devalues the

478
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,800
title because they're not giving the champion championship call a caliber

479
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,440
opponents like yes it's an open challenge is supposed to do something but

480
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,480
the like booking 101 for a situation like this is you don't do this job or squash

481
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,240
stuff on a big show unless it's going somewhere and it didn't go anywhere like

482
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,760
I just sat there waiting for it I'm like is Camille coming this is where Camille

483
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,240
is coming oh tell me tell me's had enough she's got the backing of Cesar

484
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,880
Durand she's gonna make her move even though she's got a number one contenders

485
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:05,240
match nothing literally nothing like I don't pride myself as an armchair

486
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:09,040
booker like I try like I'll do some that stuff obviously I'm a neck beer

487
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,920
podcaster but like this is a bar ago like dude you literally dropped the ball

488
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:21,800
on it what you what what is going on here I it makes me irrationally angry

489
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,240
for some for something that you know me rattling on incoherently longer than the

490
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,160
match it the match itself so Ted take this segment home offense tell me

491
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,320
like I'm overreacting no you're not cuz just everything you said you hit right

492
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,400
the nail right on the head if we believe all the rumors out there supposed to

493
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:52,640
curb our and LMAW had their case against WWE you know thrown out of court and

494
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:58,240
they asked to settle for both he got $20 million out of this you need to tell me

495
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:05,160
you're gonna use the $20 million to get Camille to come in and do something to

496
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:11,680
push up the division and make Jenae Kai that much stronger as a featherweight

497
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,920
like you said you have a piece of soy cannon and then here comes Camille oh

498
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:23,400
my god Camille and just interrupt you it doesn't even have to be Camille it

499
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,400
could have been anyone it could have been anyone with a name but you tell me

500
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,560
extra comes out on the back cuz she's mad she wants to continue what happened

501
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,440
last month on the show oh come tell me bring back ever so ever bring back

502
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:44,760
Machito yes you know bringing another Joshi yes bring somebody that's out there

503
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,800
you know a tough female name that's out there you know vicious Vicky yeah she's

504
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,640
out there you know she's proving you know Vita van out west yes saw your wreck

505
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:02,000
out east you know you alley catch I would love to see alley catch in MLW somebody

506
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,080
somebody what a name that's been a name you bring them out oh my god you know

507
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,560
surprise surprise surprise you got $20 million you could do this no you use

508
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:17,160
when completely flat this should have been done on the tapings yeah like that's

509
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,200
like that's the part like that's the part that that's the part that makes me the

510
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,560
angriest is that they took time on a special on a show that technically people

511
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,880
had to spend money on like yes like you got a bunch of stuff with the tour with

512
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,400
the fight fight plus or triller TV plus whatever you want to call it like so like

513
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,560
yeah you're not paying just for this event but like you technically had to

514
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,760
spend money to get to this event unlike YouTube or what should be what should

515
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,680
have been on fusion like I'm okay I'm okay with a squash match that doesn't go

516
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,880
anywhere on my free TV don't give it to me on my pay-per-views yes you use and

517
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:58,000
then you got that and you mentioned no no telling a promo afterwards like you

518
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,760
saw shit on the thing on the division gave us a competition and boom somebody

519
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:09,920
comes out boom that would have been acceptable you know right then you go

520
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:16,120
into a backstage nonsense where you have your own talent rocking down the

521
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,840
talent of the featherweight all the good thing he says like we're going to

522
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,600
Florida and there are all the beautiful Puerto Rican ladies out there I'm going

523
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,920
to be part of that I like them at the whole thing says our set so that this

524
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,680
whole thing was a let down because I was I was up here and I got so defeated so

525
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:42,160
fast I went oh my god I was like this is so disappointing like wow like this

526
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,200
should have been the beginning of the show or maybe the third match or

527
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,760
something in the corner they're not it's deserved to be on the show at all

528
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:57,360
period yes I'd not be for the main event at that I guess I guess I guess if you're

529
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,720
gonna deflate us like that the best place to put it is before the main event

530
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:04,680
because that way people have their bathroom break or the baths are so they

531
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,880
can have a chance to people have a chance to relax before the main event and they

532
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,520
can cheer their heads off or boo their heads off whatever yeah it was like I

533
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,520
agree with you a hundred percent everything you said about this this was

534
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:21,560
just like I said it's definitely strictly on the tapings or they may do it

535
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,040
outside in the back as one little segments that you do now every other day

536
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,960
that you put on YouTube and do something like that there you know whatever

537
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,720
okay look that was kind of okay looking happy yeah man but I was that was just

538
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:40,440
completely deflate me I was I was so high about the show and now we're just

539
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,920
on it wow dude I wonder how was that yeah spoiler I the show is basically a

540
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,080
sandwich except this sandwich the bread is the best part of it which is

541
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,240
ironic coming into our main events for the for the MLW World Heavyweight

542
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:01,240
Championship Satoshi Kojima defends against Minoru Suzuki the angry murder

543
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:06,000
grandpa himself commentary they finally referenced on commentary after I put it

544
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,720
out in social media so John Joe Dombra okay Joe Dombraus he probably knew this

545
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:13,800
before like I put it out there but actually but they didn't play it up at

546
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,240
all until the match started but Suzuki and and Kojima actually have history

547
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,680
which like I'm not gonna lie I wasn't quite aware of until like the week before

548
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:28,040
the match but like what we know what we now know is Suzuki Goon was actually

549
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:36,560
Kojima Goon so like so like they have history and and they and they and

550
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Suzuki actually holds the advantage in singles matches he's like six and six

551
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,600
and four against Kojima which again commentary did put over eventually I

552
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,320
didn't do that I didn't do the statistics for every encounter just singles

553
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,520
matches so I'm I have no idea what's going on on the stable front tag team

554
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:03,600
front whatever but like this match also was not a fast-paced affair but which

555
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,120
yeah but we had two 50-year-old dudes beating the shit out of each other is

556
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,760
what we got and that's what we wanted to see we didn't want it to be fast we

557
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,840
wanted to be slow and painful because we're hearing every slap everything

558
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,920
that's going on we were I wanted to be HD 4k I want to see the blood and the

559
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,200
sweat just coming out and put the microphone right there in front of them

560
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,800
when they're getting slapped that's what I wanted to see and that's what I and

561
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:37,320
Suzuki is such a dick and it's great like they I don't know why anyone tries

562
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,640
to strike him because it just makes him happy and angry to be hit because you

563
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,280
hit him he just laughs at you and then he's gonna hit you harder like he went

564
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,400
through three rounds of machine gun chops and each time like oh you can say

565
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,280
like oh those machine gun chops like they're fake the chess Suzuki's chest

566
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,480
said otherwise because his chest didn't have much markings to it before the

567
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,720
machine guns and then by the end of it it pretty much had a handprint ish because

568
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,920
the chops are all over the place but his his chest was thoroughly read by the

569
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,240
time those were done and he no sold it yeah that's the thing too is he knows

570
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:18,440
he he did like half a cell on the last the last set when he kind of slumped in

571
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,560
the corner but even then he slumped in the corner like he was like sliding into

572
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:29,240
a hot tub you just kind of yeah yes this field natural this field natural

573
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:38,120
and we knew that we knew what was gonna happen but they're behind my brain we

574
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:44,200
knew that Kojima had a bad knee or something happened with what yeah yeah

575
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:51,520
this is like his first match back he yeah maybe they gonna do a switch here

576
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:57,120
and in Suzuki actually gets the win because of the knee issue so I was kind

577
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:03,120
of like okay and that wouldn't have upset me as much as I'm a Kojima as much as

578
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,440
I am a Kojima boy and a member of the blood bread club I also loved me an angry

579
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:14,040
murder grandpa too and what happened with Kojima we wouldn't be you had now

580
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,560
exactly it would have been a shock as to why it would have never happened but and

581
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,920
actually like it actually even booking wise just like you know pulling off the

582
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,280
veil kayfabe like even booking wise we've had so many long meandering title

583
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:35,320
reigns it would almost be refreshing to have like you know title reign or two as

584
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,360
kind of that would let the town let the you know let the title bounce after like

585
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,520
one or two matches like it would be almost refreshing and kind of like shake

586
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,040
things up a little bit yeah though I might you know as much as I love Suzuki

587
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,520
like you might almost question the business the business of putting the

588
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,160
title on him as well because like as much as everyone loves Kojima like people

589
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,280
did kind of side-eye putting the taking about off of a young upstart now it's

590
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Kane and putting it on like a 50-plus year old man but then do it again

591
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,120
because of the issue with the knee then I understand why it did yeah I would have

592
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,560
been mad about that I was fine yeah but you know that being said like I thought

593
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,080
it was a really good it was a very good hard-hitting match it took like three

594
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,760
Larry it took like three Larry it's to put Suzuki down

595
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,760
yeah you can't go on down the one you have to hit him see that what I expected

596
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,520
the new year's Street Fighter go you beat the shadow of the guy you keep being

597
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,400
them you keep beating them and you beat them because you beat the shadow him and

598
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,840
you close like so many times with the larry it that he not got knocked out

599
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:44,800
when you paint him now on a damn backslide yeah but you know you know I

600
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,280
they ended up hot they they ended the the show show hot which was a perk even

601
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,840
though they just kind of cut it off randomly there was you know there was

602
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,920
it just out of nowhere and I joked in our chat of like well they were probably

603
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,160
filming there probably had more matches to do after this so it didn't have the

604
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,040
time to it wasn't it wasn't the true main event of the evening yeah he was like

605
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,120
yeah he just didn't get the didn't get the mic we didn't get a

606
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,520
bread shower we didn't get anything he just walked to the back and end of show

607
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,200
usually we get to see who the next challenger is gonna be or something like

608
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:24,680
that we didn't we didn't get that so I'm curious like who who's next in line

609
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,360
for the championship well well it's gonna be the war chamber so I guess next

610
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,120
month we don't doesn't matter since the belt won't be on the line so cuz it's

611
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:42,360
gonna be war chambership more focus on that then then then actual title now so

612
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,640
well which that would make sense well do you do you think that so do you think

613
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:53,200
that we're not gonna see the title until April I don't even think they have a

614
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,120
show in April no you're correct like they haven't announced anything for April so

615
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:02,760
I unless they have the well they'll probably have taping taping taping for

616
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,560
war chamber and then having the middle of the month but yeah I mean now thinking

617
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,720
about it that's gonna be the big thing is the war chamber and the title never

618
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:17,560
ever defended on that show anyway so so we're not gonna so I guess I'll re re

619
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,520
rephrase the question so are we not going to see a title we're not gonna

620
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:27,720
see the title until May probably yeah cuz I mean honestly I would not doubt it

621
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:34,120
not seeing one Japanese wrestler in the next show they're they're bringing in

622
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:42,800
another member of TMDK yeah for for war chamber let me switch my notes another

623
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,520
another state mentioning young lion kid that coming in yeah he's like he's like

624
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:55,240
the TMDK young boy like he just he just got he just got promoted yeah

625
00:53:55,240 --> 00:54:07,200
for a while yeah cuz I did like look up a little bit about him just so I'd only

626
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,000
sound like half an idiot instead of I know I know you've been a young lion for

627
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,920
a couple of years and pretty sure he just recently graduated yeah yeah within the

628
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,080
last handful of months like yeah he's popped up and he's been he's been adopted

629
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,320
into the TMDK faction and I'm pretty sure he'll get you'll be the next one

630
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:32,680
getting a shot of the TV title of our breakfast or breakfast sandwich yeah

631
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:38,960
I've got riddle I mean I'll see that happening and really probably won't have

632
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:46,400
anything to do with the war chamber match as my feelings done actually at least

633
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,200
at least that way if he doesn't show up I'll actually report on it instead of

634
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,400
having monitor issues like I normally do so if we go if we go with the calling and

635
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,800
what's the guy's name again the other the resource response response or Salinas

636
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,520
versus Cesar you will need any titles on on those two different war chamber

637
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:12,040
matches so they'll have the month of whatever a couple of weeks off yeah

638
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,040
well that's kind of disinconserting for me too so I mean this is pure

639
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:22,120
speculation and on a part laser just up like where like I I personally as a

640
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,800
wrestling fan would be disappointed if I didn't if I did if the world title was

641
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:32,480
not defended in like in like for another three months like well I wouldn't

642
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,320
because of the same barista is war chamber and then we know that then they'll

643
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,440
do a taping afterwards for the middle of April and then the May show which is

644
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:46,120
gonna be in Chicago so yeah I mean you'll probably have almost two months yeah

645
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:51,240
I'm like I mean okay it is what it is I guess I mean I guess that's how much we

646
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:59,400
see Roman Reigns but exactly but I just I just yeah I don't I just feel like you

647
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,440
know especially especially if it's gonna be war chamber and like that's gonna

648
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
that's gonna be the main event which you know it should be just because it takes

649
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,560
so much to build a to physically build the the war chamber but like I feel like

650
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,720
that I feel like that would be a good opportunity to you know maybe boost up

651
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:21,400
the YouTube show with maybe world title defense but again I've been on flip side

652
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,520
to their really hammering home the cozy max tandem too so I wonder if I wonder

653
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,960
if we're gonna see the world title put on a back burner so cozy max can go after

654
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,800
WTS title yes yeah I could see the tagging title being defended our world

655
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,080
chamber as well though the you know matches matches yeah I could see that

656
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,160
happening I could see the New Japan title being defended there also maybe

657
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,200
even the the middle way title the featherweight title but not knowing how to

658
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,000
do with the world championship if you're gonna go with two of the different

659
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,600
factions as being the war chamber and maybe you have two different war chamber

660
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:06,600
matches no that would be like that would be that would be interesting I like

661
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,040
would it be worthwhile like I don't know but I think you I mean I wouldn't turn it

662
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,200
down each half hour you start one half hour couple of matches and then you

663
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,400
ended with the other war chamber match yeah just saying I mean it's not a it's

664
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,560
not a horrible idea buddy search and I just just but once again thank you

665
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,120
nations yeah but for an indian's that gets kind of kind of interesting I know

666
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,840
like WWE now is trying you know tries to like you know have to war change

667
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:42,480
well just to what your warm-up but I feel like but like I feel like it waters

668
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,920
it down when you do that especially when there's like no reason to have it

669
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,960
well you have to you had to brought your role matches male and female you just had

670
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:57,760
two different our words in the medicine chambers male and female so yeah which

671
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,520
that I that makes sense to me like but like the war games is like a feud-ender

672
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:07,040
like yeah and and so like I feel like you're shoehorning at that point but

673
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:14,240
what do I know I'm just on the internet exactly what do you know I'm just paid

674
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,600
to speculate wildly instead of being an actual in insider paid that you do it for

675
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,400
free and make this big you didn't my ass off like crazy there you go get some ads

676
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,960
talk to local folks get some ad space in here yes get a patriot or something of

677
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,120
the like and so that's what I do get myself a cup of coffee each month out

678
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:38,680
of the deal but yeah so into that was intimidation games like it was yeah I

679
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:44,080
mean to be honest it was kind of a nothing show like the opener was amazing

680
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,560
you know the first tag team match was pretty darn good and then it just got

681
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,560
progressively worse until the main event and the main event like again like I

682
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,120
and I will concede any argument someone wants to make about the main event not

683
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,560
being good because that if that's not your bag but like I enjoyed the main event

684
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,600
I thought it was a good match I did too but the rest of it was exactly why I

685
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,560
expected to free to your guys taking it slow and being the shadow each other

686
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,080
does yeah can ask where and then to ledges like that I can't ask

687
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,080
wearing the better than that so yeah so like but yeah the rest of the show like

688
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,800
intimidation games was not terribly intimidating like that unless I you're

689
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,280
scared about how bad it was man especially the five thousand dollar

690
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,640
match thing oh like I have not been that angry at booking by any company in

691
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,720
quite some time like that that upset me way too much for a guy who has no steak

692
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:48,400
in the game I feel the same way I have no steak whatsoever but damn it I was just

693
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,400
but you know it is what it is it can't imagine you what what could have happened

694
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:59,240
just imagine you what could have what could have been exactly you know but

695
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:04,080
but they but you know as I like to say they can't all be singers it's just I

696
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,880
was expecting a bit more math than what we got out of the deal overall I'm not

697
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,960
gonna sugarcoat anything so hopefully so hopefully the tape the taping

698
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,760
surrounding intimidation games will pick things up a bit

699
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:23,720
hopefully well and I hopefully will see something build a bit more going into

700
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,000
War Chamber that is going to also like going back to a War Chamber discussion

701
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,720
that is something that kind of like worries me in terms of how the broadcast

702
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:36,960
cycle of MLW is is how do you how do you promote a feud-ender like War Chamber

703
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,760
when you're only showing when you're really only promoting things like twice a

704
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:50,840
month yeah yeah one show to promote that for March yeah and so I like I at a

705
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,040
certain level like how are you gonna do that properly especially especially if

706
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,440
we're gonna do especially if we're gonna do Selena versus Cesar and one of them

707
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,840
again speculation because like it's going to be a bunch of randos

708
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280
yeah heritably speaking because like there's no like there's not really much

709
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,600
of a proper stable on either side of them like Cesar is Cesar is literally

710
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,440
just bringing in random folks Selena has a small core of folks but otherwise it's

711
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,960
still like rounded out by CMML luchadors that they whatever they can get but yeah

712
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,120
so we'll see what happens like hopefully things will get a little bit more upbeat

713
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,080
if nothing else we at least have a War Chamber to look forward to even if we

714
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,600
don't understand how we got there yet because I do enjoy me a War Chamber

715
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,640
they got they got they got the tools to do it they got guys who specialize in a

716
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:38,440
War Chamber-esque environments whether it's the second gear crew whether it's

717
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,880
the calling whether it's the response like all those guys are hardcore enough to

718
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,760
pull off at least one of those chambers it'll be fine so I guess we can move on

719
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,640
on shut things down talk about what else we got going on in the wrestling world

720
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,600
of course Muffins has got got his ten pounds of pod assume MWA's back is it

721
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,120
correct yeah all right so we got ten pounds of pod we also he also has the

722
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,280
future every now did you have any pictures coming up here hopefully we're

723
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,360
gonna one person right now so speak okay so you keep an eye on that of course

724
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:17,440
over at my end we have the MLW Confusion podcast drops every Friday

725
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,400
sometimes it's regular confusion now sometimes now I'm giving an indie

726
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,200
spotlight when there's no MLW to review so you know recommend your favorite

727
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:32,200
indies for that of course of course if I throw my money around to local independent

728
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,000
promotions so if you're an eastern I actually keep your eyes out for SCW pro

729
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:41,320
they got a show this weekend in Iowa City and they got a show two weeks and in

730
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,800
a bluegrass Iowa as well we're also I'm also sponsoring Richard Holiday MLW

731
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:52,600
WTF superstar at the New South Haas fight tournament that's gonna be on WI TV

732
01:02:52,600 --> 01:03:00,360
or IWTV tonight and tomorrow Friday Saturday I've drank the coffee now I'm

733
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,760
giving him more money to go win fights for me for me I've no stake in this game

734
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:10,960
whatsoever so you know cheap plug on those folks as well keep an eye out myself

735
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:17,160
I have an interview with SCW pro Grand Slam champion JT Energy that'll be coming

736
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,520
out in the next few days because I've been too busy doing everything else to

737
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,400
get that edited properly so keep your eye on that that'll be out early next week

738
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,600
other than that of course the usuals got the social media bar going down at the

739
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:38,560
bottom be sure to like subscribe hit that bell leave a comment all that sort of

740
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,440
good stuff hit us the follow us on social media you know at us and things like

741
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,200
we might actually engage in conversation let me know how irrational I am let

742
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,400
muffins know what we all know and how cool he is you know we will respond we

743
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,360
may respond to things probably because I don't have anything better to do or not

744
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,440
but in the meanwhile though do all those things and we'll be back somewhere in

745
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:07,280
the next two weeks whenever they do the YouTube stuff of course and so for

746
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:26,560
muffins Montines Rob Camer catch you all next time