What's up everyone major league pod I'm Rob Kammer host of the MLW Confusion
podcast and with me as always the diogenes of death matches Muffins Martinez
how you doing today muffins well right now as you can see I look like a furry and
I feel like one too so I don't know that's my normal existence though I
actually trimmed this trimmed us down the other day I got a trim this down to be
like a month and it's gotta go everything everything has to go I gotta
get ready for summer everything gotta go now we got we got like another month
it's five before summer hits it looks like it's weird again like we did for
like three days yes exactly because right now it was 71 Tuesday 65 Wednesday 25
and snowing yesterday and back to 51 today so yeah man beautiful beautiful
weather yes exactly so getting down to business last night at least at the time
of this recording was MLW intimidation games the latest Triller fight TV
special event highlighted by the main event of old-timey rivals Minoru Suzuki
taking on Satoshi Kojima for the MLW World Heavyweight Championship but of
course we have a whole card to get through before we get to that point so I
suppose we should just go ahead and start at the beginning of this year party
and talk about and for me this was the match of the night the middleweight
championship match between Misty Ko and Rocky Romero represented by a
safe our ran and Selena de la Renta respectively you are our resident lucha
guy so start us off month that's what you think I mean I was very surprised that
this was the opening match I would like wow they're already gonna give keep this
one early I guess they want to set up the tone for the rest of the night I mean
this match did not disappoint this match was mad classic aerial ground attack
and then you could think of they did I mean what almost like 15 minutes match
and like I said I was very surprised that it was the first match but I guess
that's how they wanted to start it off and started hot Misty Ko got the win so
now here's the new middleweight champion takes it back to a CMLL down there
in Mexico coming up already tonight if if you know if they don't have a oh yeah
probably tonight cuz they don't I don't think they have a live AEW show and I
don't think you'd be there tomorrow so well yeah so I mean that is that is
amazing that the MLW belt will go over there I just wish for Bauer or somebody
from CMLL will take some of the MLW wrestlers and have them down there that
be also kind of cool if that ever happens but right now we have to have a new
middleweight open champion and it's Misty Ko I mean I couldn't be any happier
than this I mean match was a much was the match was amazing it was as I said
this for me it was the match of the night like the two thing two things
surprised me about this match and neither of them actually affected by
enjoyment like whatsoever and actually the latter made it more enjoyable but
one I was actually surprised about how slow slow air quotes it wasn't slow
really wasn't really that slow but but I was actually surprised that the pace
wasn't faster in the match especially with Misty Ko being involved but but
you know Rocky doesn't know it doesn't always work the pure lucha style anyway
so you know that makes sense and I was surprised at the lack of outside of
your spirits yes yeah you know Selena has you know has not made any bones about
you know getting involved if necessary and she she didn't do anything outside
of yell at people so I was kind of surprised at that which is fine like a
clean you know a match being clean is you know the way it should be in a perfect
sports world but yeah no it it was a great opener great back and forth action
I mean they really like Rocky did take most of the action but like not not like
it wasn't anywhere near like a squash in an upset like and I will say like Romero
Rocky like if he's not he like needs to be training people a bit more because
like hit because his because his body language and his facials were on point
and to like dude was just chewing on the crowd like really getting them go like
he worked the crowd like nobody else that of that night to despite certain
people trying to work the crowd like he was actually successful in like getting
them going and that was really awesome to see too so the crowd is already getting
hot for the action of the evening but yeah it was it was great yeah misty
coach misty coach took the victory so he's taking the belt you know I echo you
know your set of it's about a talent exchange being a true talent exchange
and we really not seen anybody from MLW's and going to Mexico or anything
of the life which I that seems like that seems to be kind of a
court bower thing is like we have a partnership and the partnership is
totally one-sided where they're just kind of leaching off of somebody so
they come over we take their bells or they take our bells and we don't see
anybody from MLW to go to that company I don't get it to be honest with you but
AEW doesn't they having the BBC or the PCC whatever the host they call it a
book what it was black pool of combat yes all four of them are going to be there
coming up in the next two weeks having a battle and then one other females is
gonna be there too so you need to tell me AEW can send guys over with no
problems and have guys over or MLW can send one guy over well I mean Rocky
from America's he already lives there yeah I guess I guess because he works
for every company yeah he's the talent liaison for every company I mean though
like you know we can rag on it and I can try to blame court bower but really it
might be a CMLL thing too because if the news is to be correct the news is
correct like they buggered up a bunch of talent visas here lately and from what
I'm hearing it like despite being a nationwide almost international
company given its talent relations like the CMML allegedly basically put all the
talent visas on just like a random indie promotion in Texas and evidently
something was just not kosher and the feds got involved the guys like dude I'm
just an indie promoter I don't I don't want to I don't want to be in trouble
like I'm not trying to scam anyone well the other thing was is that they use
this company before for years and then I guess they found out that the guy they
were going through the stuff he kind of gave the job to other people beneath
under him and he wasn't keeping up with with it and then when they say well we're
not gonna work with you anymore he kind of said well shit if you don't work with
me then I'm gonna kind of tip the you know the government about this and he
went and tip the government about the visas and now all the visas for like
20 different talents are gonna be kind of messed up from now till past
first of weekend maybe more unless the expedite is an expedition means extra
money to pay to get this stuff done so unless somebody has some deep wallets
it's gonna be crazy to go and get those guys but at least one of the names is
not mystical who's right well I would be really I would be really suspect if
it was live last night yeah he's been advertised for the main show in Chicago
for MW but I'm pretty sure there was some other names that they mentioned
before that now they have to scramble and get other guys who are not on that
cold list so right yeah so but yeah so new champ another another step in the
Selina De La Renta Cesar Durant feud we'll see a little bit more of that
kind of come later but like they almost he's not got really excited like they
teased Lucha de Hapuesta and then Rocky backed off yeah title title versus hair
and yeah Rocky Rocky the one that lose those locks he like no no no at least
no in such short notice get a payday out of it first there you go but moving on
from that second match of the night was the New York Street fight the calling
taking on what would become now known as the response haha get it so the calling
being represented by Sammy Callahan and Rick Champage the National Lofiweight
Champion taking on Akira and Jake Christ I thought that actually I thought this
match was pretty darn good like actually it's kind of surprised me because I was
like I'm not sure what I was expecting but like there wasn't really a dull
moment in the match like they kept the flow going very well and there wasn't a
whole lot of like downtime or spots or time taking to set up spots like it was
just all like bam bam bam okay these guys are in oh these guys are out without
like any sort of downtime whatsoever I mean they took a little bit of time to
get out some ring boards but they didn't like build some weird tower out of it or
anything like that they just went out got the boards got back in we did get and
we did get a odd break to have the day of the re debut the return of the Blue
Meanie he was hiding out underneath the ring so gotta get that going I love me
some Blue Meanie which we should have figured there was something coming up
but that back's the last big response promo what involved the Blue Meanie being
the something blue but yeah just kind of like a bunch of crazy go nuts stuff
went on it wasn't like a big bloodbath or anything either but we just everything
broke down we got Raven back even though he didn't show up live just got Raven on
the Tron and basically called this a civil war which I thought this already
was a civil war but you know whatever man and gave a formal name to Chris and
Akira as the response so I'm curious how long like this part of it will go on
since they bothered to name it well I had a couple of issues with this and I
had a little discussion Akira on Twitter last night about this so it's a
New York Street fight everything is being broken to hell there's ball bath
anywhere they're doing this doing this but the pinfall is a backslide pin yeah
like you know and wrestling discussed about this so once again it's a New
York Street fight everything is a goal everything's being used if if somebody's
gonna get pinned and you want us to be invested in something you want us to ask
the fans to be invested realistically what do you think that a big blow
somebody getting attacked out with something a hammer a silver block or
something a guitar or somebody going through a table some glass or something
will be the ending of the match but no we ended us on a backslide well to be
fair though New York Street fight the to be fair the backslide was a mechanism to
the victory we had a low blow we had a field goal kick lead into the backslide
so it wasn't just like a flash backslide out of nowhere like they were they were
fighting for it and Callahan came in and kicked one through the uprights to do it
well it's a New York Street fight you going all out I'm pretty sure you're
not gonna get knocked you know you you gotta go for the knockout real good pin
thing you know somebody gotta get knocked out and then get pinned you don't
get pinned on it on the New York Street fight by a backslide that's one two you
mean to tell me Raven is that them lazy or they can't pay my extra couple of
dollars for him to be there in person just come out with a microphone say
everything you have to say there in front of anybody on a live show on a
Thursday I'm pretty sure you live close to finish somewhere up there you could
have made the hour two hour drive to get there but no you can get this lazy you
know promo on on our screen we were like come on guys like shit you guys are
killing me right now with this nonsense so other than that that we are painful
and the Raven thing I was really disappointed with the finish of the
match because if you give me a street fight and we as fans want to believe
this that to be realistic even though we know it's not you know or whatever you
want to be realistically okay knock somebody out hit somebody with something
to the point or he does not come out one two three oh wow that's an amazing
street fight now on a backslide well I digress yeah we'll agree to disagree on
that one again like I find the backslide just to be a mechanism of the fall and
the real thing was the low blow like yes we're custom to like you know giant
head drops and rando table spots but like but let's be realistic you know you
know a good kick to the junk will end a lot of fights too true yeah I mean if
you come to the junk and then you dtm or something I believe it not just pick up
to the junk and then you come behind and you know do a backslide no man no Bob
blacklands rolling in his grave right now he's not even dead yet no he's in
better shape than both of us next next I wanted to throw out there just to hear
your thoughts on it they announced that at a war chamber we're getting the return
of Timothy Thatcher what did you what do you think about that oh I love this I
love Timothy Thatcher every time he's done the matches here on those shows it's
always been an a great match that he either he loses or he or he wins more
pretty much he loses but it always is a team I said it's a fight when it's
usually a fight it usually goes all the way it's just some I mean a good eight to
ten minute match of pure wrestling I mean the man knows how to perform inside
the ring why he's not signed somewhere you know why am I the
thing you some more often this has been a couple of months the last time we've
you see them there it's been like it has been close to a year really long I mean
maybe not like I think okay maybe August maybe not somebody who's who got
knocked out and maybe he got knocked out against he got against hot sauce Tracy
Williams he got yanked he got yanked oh when they did the yank off the rope
DDT spot he landed that was like well I think August maybe September yeah so I
mean it's been a bit like so why he doesn't lose every month or even on the
tapings is beyond me the do so professional he gives you a hundred
ten percent every match that he does so I don't really understand why but I I
really I was like yes yeah that's just back yes that is pretty much my exact
response is like especially once he's been cleared to wrestle he's been
wrestling like yeah he's like he wasn't down for terribly long with with with
that injury I was expecting to be a little Japanese wrestler but it's
attached I'm like yes all right that's gonna be a good match and hopefully he's
part of the actual show and not the tapings so and maybe both I like to see
them both well we'll have to see because War Chamber usually takes a sweep at a
time and and they're running slightly at least in terms of the televised product
or running slightly shorter shows so we will see yeah so and the faux war games
takes at least a half hour yeah so it might well we will see like how time it
goes on but like I other way but they did I say they did say War Chamber so he
might be on the main card now do you think did they mention what who's gonna
wrestle yeah or no they mentioned not yet they just said he's making his return
and unless something popped to the popped along the email or the social media that
I haven't been able to check the last I'm hoping I'm hoping you'll be something
between a Cesar and the renta you know the goal for their factions going out of
there now that's what I would love to see I don't know if that's gonna happen but
oh yeah well they know it's oh you mean for the war games itself yeah okay I
thought we're still on thatcher of the Cesar Cesar implied during during his
promo after women's match that that he was laying down laying down a challenge
and I'm and like it's me he sound it sounded like he said it was for war
chamber but I couldn't tell I couldn't quite tell if he meant it the chamber
match itself okay or something another challenge for war chamber well for
these them hopefully I mean I mean there's only really two ways to go about
it I feel and that's either like either the fact of the faction war between
Selena and Cesar or the other way the other way to go about it would be WTF
versus guys WTF refuting with so like at the moment it would be like WTF versus
like second-tier crew and cozy or something something like that but
that's just that that's just wild speculation I haven't haven't seen much
of anything they didn't didn't we mentioned also that didn't Jimmy Lloyd
yeah Jimmy Lloyd is back to you which which he yeah he's citing with the
response as well yeah so I guess that could that could be a thing that could
be a thing too because yeah yeah yeah exactly I guess a all I need is like for
traditional stuff all they need is like basically one more person aside aside
and yeah and all the guys already have four yeah we can't all and in Teflon
or Tana whatever yeah Talon and even then like they need to bring back mr.
Dr. Cornwallis because that was like the best name in wrestling I missed
yeah so yeah yeah so yeah it could be something like that I guess it just
depends on where they want to go so I guess they do now that now that we sit
there and think about it out loud like they actually have a several ways they
can go about the war games as well so which I mean honestly like I'm psyched
regardless what they do I enjoy war games or war chambers use me it's my
second most favorite MLW events after Battle Riot just because I love me a
good battle royal and that's that's that's a neat thing but yeah so but I
forgot about Jimmy Lloyd being the match after this because it's brilliant like
I'll throw it out there I'm not a big Jimmy Lloyd fan though I was interested
what him becoming a broski number one with Matt Cardona that that was that I
thought that was going to be interesting but they're not doing that in MLW and
he wasn't rocking the broski gimmick when he showed up last night so my
interest in him just kind of went way down and I'm salty that he's getting
title shots and I'm not getting title shots yeah they'll maze coming the maze
coming maze coming but yeah you're my agent for this and have you like I
haven't heard it nothing's come down my way so you got time heck and and
sport and maybe my shot at the tag team title just magically dissipated but we'll
cover we'll cover that here in a bit next is the big rebirth of Alex
Kane his first singles match since losing the title taking on the returning
Bobby Fish I'll play it on the table I was not a big band of this match like it
just it fell flat for me like it was kind of just a nothing burger like Bobby
pretended it was Memphis except nobody cared like he kept like Geo Jack with the
crowd and he didn't get it a response yeah like I did pop for you he pulled my
hair when fish is rocking up you know the shiny head right now I popped for
that but like it was like nothing like there was no energy to the match it just
seemed like an assortment of video game maneuvers like back and forth and so I
like I'll get your thoughts and then we'll talk about the aftermath of the
match well I was surprised that this match was lower I thought it was gonna be
maybe like semi-main event because of Kane being the champion last month for
the last six months so it was he actually became the third match of the
nice no that's kind of low for your ex champion and I love Bobby Fish you know
he's a he's a good wrestler I actually I mean it wasn't a tough match per se but
it wasn't in bad match either I actually there's nothing wrong with it it just kind
of meh like it was it was just like he it was paid like if I could speak ill of
it it was basically heatless filler almost which is actually kind of
disrespectful to your world champ he just kind of never got out of the first gear
yeah like it like it's yeah they just they were kind of slow and then they
slowed down from there yeah exactly just never kind of got out of the gear and
stuff like that but you know I don't maybe I just expected more because Kane's
been you know doing very well for himself and Bobby Fish is a really good
wrestler and I was surprised he actually you know how to pass out in the menu
breast oh wow okay I wasn't expecting that and that was finish and like that was
weird too like almost like it wasn't planned just the ref called it like
before like they didn't lock it like he he didn't lock in the body scissors like
they were still standing in the roughs just like bring the band he went down
and you see Bobby just coming yeah so like it was all like weird and they
didn't get out of first gear like so like I mean on paper there's nothing
wrong with the match but like but that again like but like given the talent
that was involved like it should have been better I expect them or yes yes but
I guess really it was just to set up what happened next with the physical debut of
Flopdala himself AJ Francis also he was on two shows at the same time last night
oh god there's two manders running around and now there's two Flopdala's yeah
what is the world coming this is the worst timeline this is that's what it is
this is the worst timeline two Flopdala's two one called manders yes he was in a
tag team match at NTA last night so but I don't know they're in made it to New
York I feel like that fact is cooler than what we got live because like his
promo didn't like outside of like one line towards the end like that promo did
nothing for me he just basically came out and was like look at me I flopdala I
make money which I don't really cuz man he's actually pretty good but is boom
I get him by my game yeah bum I a yeah like yeah like he did like grandpa level
puns and the only thing out of that those might be worth its weight and that's
if that is if it's true and they follow up on it is that he referenced that
someone in the Boma a camp is not as loyal as King thinks they are which I
think is interesting but then on the flip side of that like let's face it on
screen there really isn't much of a Boma a fight club anymore yeah no what
happened to what happened to our jay booji what happened to the other guy
I say Edwards yeah Edwards I mean I think that's all I'm like once or twice in a
tag team match and now I know booji still reps still reps Boma a on the
indies I can't say for Edwards I know he he'll reference the Boma a but like
he's he's not like all in he doesn't seem to tag Alex Cain and things or
wherever we're booji is all in on it but yeah but like functionally speaking in
MLW really Boma a is just Alex Cain and Mr. Thomas and Faye Jackson and
and I'm done King whenever whenever Don Keisha I hope I hope Don King is the
one that turns that's what I want that would be great that that would be the
best case scenario you dropped out the belt so now I'm moving from you to Boma
a now get the real money to somebody else so hopefully we'll have a different
outfit on this time yeah but but I am I am morbidly curious curious if they if
this wasn't just an off the cuff comment and this is something they're
actually planning because again like Boma a is only three people right now and
no one's gonna like no one's gonna care Faye Jackson turns yeah and so that
leaves Mr. Thomas which is which is interesting because also interesting
because Thomas and Francis are going to be face facing each other well facing
at the next but at the tapings last night they they they were supposed to
face each other for whatever the I forget what the next big YouTube show is
called a new beginning or something from New York or something like that yeah but
so I'm kind of interested to see like if that's that was a real line and they're
that's if they're gonna push especially with those with mr. Thomas and Francis
gonna have in a match or if that was just if that was just Francis just
spouting off saying whatever he thought of at the moment to try to try to crowd
and work yeah but yeah so again like that like to me though like I don't have
much use for AJ Francis either I don't think I think he I think he's well
overrated in his own head but he's also weird I'll give him that yes we're
cuz they had Cardona and Cardona did a lot and does what five months he was
there Francis came in and is that is doesn't see that it doesn't have the same
effect or big big-time eyes like Cardona day when he came in last year well and I
think that's just because it's two different two different kinds of
performers like Cardona is actually like Cardona has made himself a cult of
personality like well he's always been kind of a cult of personality he's
always been like large and in your face and bombastic and really good at
manipulating social media Francis on the other hand like don't get wrong he's
hustling I will give him that he is hustling he's putting in the work but
he doesn't have I don't think he he doesn't have the charisma Matt Cardona
has let's just put it out there he he's not that charismatic overall and he's
not that great of a wrestler either and so you put like those things together
with some alleged leaves which compared to other people's
alleged like I don't I it's not that big of a deal but like I don't the man
doesn't do much for me so I don't because I don't think I don't think he's very
good on the mic and I he's not very good in the ring at all and then crazy how
all this ex totally guys are free but they're resting for like every independent
company they could find all our wants like they're here they here they here
they here you like do like how many places you're gonna be all our one
you know TNA MLW and the way our destiny all in other places and you like you got
a straight you got a strike whether the iron's hot because that window shit like
slow down do like I know you're free after being in years of what being
locked down but doesn't mean that you're gonna just sell yourself to every
company just get money and be seen no no that's exactly what you got to do
because because unless you're Cardona who can successfully like who's like a
marketing machine like that's the only way you're gonna continue to make
yourself relevant is by putting yourself out there and getting all I'll get as
many eyes on you as possible you know like Cardona has the luck of like being
like a super popular guy who's you know that he's got the leg up on everyone but
he's also become a super popular guy through the through the combination of
very hard work and being able to read the fan base and that's not something
everybody has or you have other people like say Mustafa Ali basically like
he's getting by basically because well kind of like Cardona he was almost
criminally underused by WWE and like had basically said like hey these are things
here's stuff like I've wanted to do and was told no yeah and now I'm gonna do
that and so like every he's got all the eyes on him you know that Cardona was
kind of the same the same way that's not you know not everyone but like you got
to strike why that why people remember who you are so you're not just you know
those guys who did like three job matches back in the 90s who just would slap a
WWE or WWF logo on their indie photos like you got strike by that I was hot
and people actually remember who you are regardless I'm actually really surprised
by that too because I because I feel like he would like especially for a
short term like what the equivalent of we'll say like two months like four
shows two months like I you know I think you make a pretty big impact no
pun intended but you know you know I don't know I I don't know the backstage
meetings of MLW I don't know like I don't know who how much money's paid out to
individuals and how much money they're willing to spend on individuals or you
know it might be it might be all in a Ali baby doesn't want to do it you know
who knows you know anyway but you know we can speculate things all we want and
yes but we could dedicate a whole nother podcast of that we were supposed to be
talking about we were supposed to be talking about intimidation games right
now I guess next is the tag team title match second-gear crew taking on the
WTF faction filthy Tom Lawler and the man who doesn't wash his hands
David Boy Smith Judy as elves that was funny that was better than it had that
was better than it had any right to be and I will say we complain and as much as
we complain about WTF like I am actually a big fan of like their backstage
shenanigans like like yeah I'm not always a big fan of MSL when he talks but
like anything like Tom Lawler does like he's giving it his all and he's
hilarious and then like you had Davey boy in there like he was almost like the
last one I expected to be doing that's kind of stupid stuff but yet he was the
star of that second I thought the bad thing was funny I love the match just
watching watching his eyes bulge as he's like giving everybody a hug and cutting
the probe I love the whole match I love the whole thing how everything was set
up and I love the fact that finally don't you have finally you want to match
a tactic match at that and finally want some gold I mean cuz this guy's been
going now for this September of last year or October pretty much I guess
they're actually even August because because Cardona was the draft pick of
the WTF and no gold whatsoever and they finally want to go and I could assure
this thing with the helmet I seen them do that before I think like Davey Boy
Smith done that same thing somewhere else before I don't know if it's double
dirty of days when he was there I don't remember but for some reason when I saw
the helmet I could assure he's done sometimes is before and now we're gonna
see him with them help me everywhere now hmm well maybe people quit beating up
mr. St. Laurent maybe maybe he won't have to come down dressed up like a mummy
in various hard things to dinky on the head with it is funny how our Brian
Gossler came out to help him trying to get him up and he's fighting all over
the place overselling the ship right now so yeah that was something that kind of
surprised me is they find like they pulled the trigger on BRG being in WTF
yes it's which still seems like relatively random to me because he was
Becca's boyfriend and then became shopping buddy for Zeta and now now he's
just part of WTF like okay well at least at least with him involved like they
have a guy who could take pinfalls and it makes sense
whereas like anybody else WTF like they shouldn't be losing near as much as they
do which we've talked about and I will reference again here coming it coming
into my my chunk of the match where like it was a serviceable match but like
really like I couldn't get excited for the WTF victory just because they've
been goobers for so long like they've been jobbing out left and right for the
most part like yes they kind of had to come back with Tom Tom beating justice
and Davey Boy beating Manders so like they made a bit of a comeback there but
like for that that doesn't necessarily erase six months of guberdom where
they're not really winning any matches like whatsoever and like all the sudden
there's vicious junior in
I don't know yeah I haven't seen one I hope he's still part of the group of
a vicious I was calling vicious dream yeah
yeah baby hamstone baby vicious what you know whatever you want to call it
yeah yeah a big leached one guy yeah joshua bishop yeah I don't know how you
see me a while but they kind of do that where it's like rando folk will pop in
and out because like we don't see much of holiday always either but like we saw
him backstage at burning crush where he was part of the backstage shenanigans
with second-gear crew and cozy max so like I think they just kind of come in
and out wherever they're needed and they just use whoever's right there at the
moment so I don't know maybe yeah so I'm gonna knock on wood that he's still
there because I think this is a good launching this could be a good launching
point for him for a due for especially like Kevin that the roster for LW size
wise isn't that big overall and so a guy that's bishop size you know looks like a
giant so I think he had he he can have something go in there but you know I
also say the same thing about like Oshay Edwards and they proceeded to do
nothing with him whatsoever but but yeah the match was serviceable you know I
was I was kind of surprised I was kind of surprised that WTF won I shouldn't
have been like they were pointing all the ways to WTF winning I couldn't get
into it because they've been goobered despite the fact that manders shit the
bad and got dunked on the head and lost which no sulfur and no self-respecting
I would is just gonna go down due to getting hit in the head with a
motorcycle helmet that's just called Saturday night here ladies and gentlemen
um you know it's manders that's probably why you got dunked on the head
but there's manders number two running around being a stunt double or something
you're a help anybody your hatred for manders like no no boundaries no because
evidently I am the only one the season that that man is a menace I'm not crazy
not crazy at all lay down the facts manders is a menace and now there's two
manders running around but one of them is kind of a whip because he's got dunked
on the head and knocked out like some sort of not iowan wimp so I don't know
what's going on there those helmets they actually hurt so well they hurt but if
but if you if you're you're upset cuz the guy got kicked in the deck and lost
a man so it was a fast ride on a on a New York Street fight and then I a street
fight and this this was a roll-up from a guy in the UFC so magics so magic matches
two different type of matches manders is just as hardcore as everybody else in
that that one match but that being said yeah I was surprised I actually was
surprised WTF got it but like it still fell flat for me because they've been
goobers all the this time though like it really needed again like we've said it
like every month or every two weeks really when we have this pot you know
that they needed something to get a win to make themselves a threat one more
thing of what you mentioned earlier from the second match they need to get the
open weight title away from ARSP because that belt is not being defended at all
any show yeah I think the bill off already and given just you know do
something with it cuz that belt is just losing meaning I just thought about yeah
it's kind of an afterthought considering that the middleweight championship is
kind of the crown jewel right now of the Cesar Durand Ceylon Ceylon de la Renta
feud and then you know by proxy the tag titles have had some quasi meaning just
because they've been prominently featured like with the second year crew like
regardless if they're singles matches or not like you see the second year crew
together they got the titles whereas you don't always see the title with
Ricky Shade Page like and they don't like rep they don't always reference that
he's a national of the weight champion as well but yeah so I don't know but
yeah maybe maybe it'll maybe maybe we'll get a match next month and they'll do
something with it with this whole Civil War Carcosa storyline calling in
response and whatnot but next uh next we have the $5,000 five minute challenge
and this match I'm gonna keep the hat on for this because I'm gonna start
rattling on incoherently for this one too except this one will make a bit more
sense than me just ratting on Randers like I normally do but yeah I'm just
gonna take it away and then you can correct me or calm me down or whatever
it is but yes the $5,000 challenge with Janiakai I didn't write down I did write
down who it was but it's in my notes somewhere else maybe I'll take some
extra time to look unprofessional to find it yes Zoe Cannon answered the
challenge for Janiakai she needed the last five minutes or or actually win to
get five grand this match was pretty much exactly how I thought this match was
going to go it would lasted like from Bell to Bell like five seconds like 20
seconds if you and once once everybody got into the ring all that stuff but it
was a push kick a pump kick ref stops it which on paper is fine but the problem
is is they did this and they didn't do anything to follow it up you you really
if you're gonna do this on a big show and really hype up the challenge aspect of
it then you need to use it as a cog to make it a next step in a story and they
didn't do that at all there was no surprise debuts there was no surprise
returns there Selena did Selena didn't even get on the mic and be like fuck
y'all this division sucks we're on top like we didn't even get that like all
we got all we got out of this is we did go backstage with a clapping
Cesar Durand who basically called this a squash match which it was mind you but
you're on screen talent should not be saying things like this because I that
makes it deval especially in this situation it almost deval devalues the
title because they're not giving the champion championship call a caliber
opponents like yes it's an open challenge is supposed to do something but
the like booking 101 for a situation like this is you don't do this job or squash
stuff on a big show unless it's going somewhere and it didn't go anywhere like
I just sat there waiting for it I'm like is Camille coming this is where Camille
is coming oh tell me tell me's had enough she's got the backing of Cesar
Durand she's gonna make her move even though she's got a number one contenders
match nothing literally nothing like I don't pride myself as an armchair
booker like I try like I'll do some that stuff obviously I'm a neck beer
podcaster but like this is a bar ago like dude you literally dropped the ball
on it what you what what is going on here I it makes me irrationally angry
for some for something that you know me rattling on incoherently longer than the
match it the match itself so Ted take this segment home offense tell me
like I'm overreacting no you're not cuz just everything you said you hit right
the nail right on the head if we believe all the rumors out there supposed to
curb our and LMAW had their case against WWE you know thrown out of court and
they asked to settle for both he got $20 million out of this you need to tell me
you're gonna use the $20 million to get Camille to come in and do something to
push up the division and make Jenae Kai that much stronger as a featherweight
like you said you have a piece of soy cannon and then here comes Camille oh
my god Camille and just interrupt you it doesn't even have to be Camille it
could have been anyone it could have been anyone with a name but you tell me
extra comes out on the back cuz she's mad she wants to continue what happened
last month on the show oh come tell me bring back ever so ever bring back
Machito yes you know bringing another Joshi yes bring somebody that's out there
you know a tough female name that's out there you know vicious Vicky yeah she's
out there you know she's proving you know Vita van out west yes saw your wreck
out east you know you alley catch I would love to see alley catch in MLW somebody
somebody what a name that's been a name you bring them out oh my god you know
surprise surprise surprise you got $20 million you could do this no you use
when completely flat this should have been done on the tapings yeah like that's
like that's the part like that's the part that that's the part that makes me the
angriest is that they took time on a special on a show that technically people
had to spend money on like yes like you got a bunch of stuff with the tour with
the fight fight plus or triller TV plus whatever you want to call it like so like
yeah you're not paying just for this event but like you technically had to
spend money to get to this event unlike YouTube or what should be what should
have been on fusion like I'm okay I'm okay with a squash match that doesn't go
anywhere on my free TV don't give it to me on my pay-per-views yes you use and
then you got that and you mentioned no no telling a promo afterwards like you
saw shit on the thing on the division gave us a competition and boom somebody
comes out boom that would have been acceptable you know right then you go
into a backstage nonsense where you have your own talent rocking down the
talent of the featherweight all the good thing he says like we're going to
Florida and there are all the beautiful Puerto Rican ladies out there I'm going
to be part of that I like them at the whole thing says our set so that this
whole thing was a let down because I was I was up here and I got so defeated so
fast I went oh my god I was like this is so disappointing like wow like this
should have been the beginning of the show or maybe the third match or
something in the corner they're not it's deserved to be on the show at all
period yes I'd not be for the main event at that I guess I guess I guess if you're
gonna deflate us like that the best place to put it is before the main event
because that way people have their bathroom break or the baths are so they
can have a chance to people have a chance to relax before the main event and they
can cheer their heads off or boo their heads off whatever yeah it was like I
agree with you a hundred percent everything you said about this this was
just like I said it's definitely strictly on the tapings or they may do it
outside in the back as one little segments that you do now every other day
that you put on YouTube and do something like that there you know whatever
okay look that was kind of okay looking happy yeah man but I was that was just
completely deflate me I was I was so high about the show and now we're just
on it wow dude I wonder how was that yeah spoiler I the show is basically a
sandwich except this sandwich the bread is the best part of it which is
ironic coming into our main events for the for the MLW World Heavyweight
Championship Satoshi Kojima defends against Minoru Suzuki the angry murder
grandpa himself commentary they finally referenced on commentary after I put it
out in social media so John Joe Dombra okay Joe Dombraus he probably knew this
before like I put it out there but actually but they didn't play it up at
all until the match started but Suzuki and and Kojima actually have history
which like I'm not gonna lie I wasn't quite aware of until like the week before
the match but like what we know what we now know is Suzuki Goon was actually
Kojima Goon so like so like they have history and and they and they and
Suzuki actually holds the advantage in singles matches he's like six and six
and four against Kojima which again commentary did put over eventually I
didn't do that I didn't do the statistics for every encounter just singles
matches so I'm I have no idea what's going on on the stable front tag team
front whatever but like this match also was not a fast-paced affair but which
yeah but we had two 50-year-old dudes beating the shit out of each other is
what we got and that's what we wanted to see we didn't want it to be fast we
wanted to be slow and painful because we're hearing every slap everything
that's going on we were I wanted to be HD 4k I want to see the blood and the
sweat just coming out and put the microphone right there in front of them
when they're getting slapped that's what I wanted to see and that's what I and
Suzuki is such a dick and it's great like they I don't know why anyone tries
to strike him because it just makes him happy and angry to be hit because you
hit him he just laughs at you and then he's gonna hit you harder like he went
through three rounds of machine gun chops and each time like oh you can say
like oh those machine gun chops like they're fake the chess Suzuki's chest
said otherwise because his chest didn't have much markings to it before the
machine guns and then by the end of it it pretty much had a handprint ish because
the chops are all over the place but his his chest was thoroughly read by the
time those were done and he no sold it yeah that's the thing too is he knows
he he did like half a cell on the last the last set when he kind of slumped in
the corner but even then he slumped in the corner like he was like sliding into
a hot tub you just kind of yeah yes this field natural this field natural
and we knew that we knew what was gonna happen but they're behind my brain we
knew that Kojima had a bad knee or something happened with what yeah yeah
this is like his first match back he yeah maybe they gonna do a switch here
and in Suzuki actually gets the win because of the knee issue so I was kind
of like okay and that wouldn't have upset me as much as I'm a Kojima as much as
I am a Kojima boy and a member of the blood bread club I also loved me an angry
murder grandpa too and what happened with Kojima we wouldn't be you had now
exactly it would have been a shock as to why it would have never happened but and
actually like it actually even booking wise just like you know pulling off the
veil kayfabe like even booking wise we've had so many long meandering title
reigns it would almost be refreshing to have like you know title reign or two as
kind of that would let the town let the you know let the title bounce after like
one or two matches like it would be almost refreshing and kind of like shake
things up a little bit yeah though I might you know as much as I love Suzuki
like you might almost question the business the business of putting the
title on him as well because like as much as everyone loves Kojima like people
did kind of side-eye putting the taking about off of a young upstart now it's
Kane and putting it on like a 50-plus year old man but then do it again
because of the issue with the knee then I understand why it did yeah I would have
been mad about that I was fine yeah but you know that being said like I thought
it was a really good it was a very good hard-hitting match it took like three
Larry it took like three Larry it's to put Suzuki down
yeah you can't go on down the one you have to hit him see that what I expected
the new year's Street Fighter go you beat the shadow of the guy you keep being
them you keep beating them and you beat them because you beat the shadow him and
you close like so many times with the larry it that he not got knocked out
when you paint him now on a damn backslide yeah but you know you know I
they ended up hot they they ended the the show show hot which was a perk even
though they just kind of cut it off randomly there was you know there was
it just out of nowhere and I joked in our chat of like well they were probably
filming there probably had more matches to do after this so it didn't have the
time to it wasn't it wasn't the true main event of the evening yeah he was like
yeah he just didn't get the didn't get the mic we didn't get a
bread shower we didn't get anything he just walked to the back and end of show
usually we get to see who the next challenger is gonna be or something like
that we didn't we didn't get that so I'm curious like who who's next in line
for the championship well well it's gonna be the war chamber so I guess next
month we don't doesn't matter since the belt won't be on the line so cuz it's
gonna be war chambership more focus on that then then then actual title now so
well which that would make sense well do you do you think that so do you think
that we're not gonna see the title until April I don't even think they have a
show in April no you're correct like they haven't announced anything for April so
I unless they have the well they'll probably have taping taping taping for
war chamber and then having the middle of the month but yeah I mean now thinking
about it that's gonna be the big thing is the war chamber and the title never
ever defended on that show anyway so so we're not gonna so I guess I'll re re
rephrase the question so are we not going to see a title we're not gonna
see the title until May probably yeah cuz I mean honestly I would not doubt it
not seeing one Japanese wrestler in the next show they're they're bringing in
another member of TMDK yeah for for war chamber let me switch my notes another
another state mentioning young lion kid that coming in yeah he's like he's like
the TMDK young boy like he just he just got he just got promoted yeah
for a while yeah cuz I did like look up a little bit about him just so I'd only
sound like half an idiot instead of I know I know you've been a young lion for
a couple of years and pretty sure he just recently graduated yeah yeah within the
last handful of months like yeah he's popped up and he's been he's been adopted
into the TMDK faction and I'm pretty sure he'll get you'll be the next one
getting a shot of the TV title of our breakfast or breakfast sandwich yeah
I've got riddle I mean I'll see that happening and really probably won't have
anything to do with the war chamber match as my feelings done actually at least
at least that way if he doesn't show up I'll actually report on it instead of
having monitor issues like I normally do so if we go if we go with the calling and
what's the guy's name again the other the resource response response or Salinas
versus Cesar you will need any titles on on those two different war chamber
matches so they'll have the month of whatever a couple of weeks off yeah
well that's kind of disinconserting for me too so I mean this is pure
speculation and on a part laser just up like where like I I personally as a
wrestling fan would be disappointed if I didn't if I did if the world title was
not defended in like in like for another three months like well I wouldn't
because of the same barista is war chamber and then we know that then they'll
do a taping afterwards for the middle of April and then the May show which is
gonna be in Chicago so yeah I mean you'll probably have almost two months yeah
I'm like I mean okay it is what it is I guess I mean I guess that's how much we
see Roman Reigns but exactly but I just I just yeah I don't I just feel like you
know especially especially if it's gonna be war chamber and like that's gonna
that's gonna be the main event which you know it should be just because it takes
so much to build a to physically build the the war chamber but like I feel like
that I feel like that would be a good opportunity to you know maybe boost up
the YouTube show with maybe world title defense but again I've been on flip side
to their really hammering home the cozy max tandem too so I wonder if I wonder
if we're gonna see the world title put on a back burner so cozy max can go after
WTS title yes yeah I could see the tagging title being defended our world
chamber as well though the you know matches matches yeah I could see that
happening I could see the New Japan title being defended there also maybe
even the the middle way title the featherweight title but not knowing how to
do with the world championship if you're gonna go with two of the different
factions as being the war chamber and maybe you have two different war chamber
matches no that would be like that would be that would be interesting I like
would it be worthwhile like I don't know but I think you I mean I wouldn't turn it
down each half hour you start one half hour couple of matches and then you
ended with the other war chamber match yeah just saying I mean it's not a it's
not a horrible idea buddy search and I just just but once again thank you
nations yeah but for an indian's that gets kind of kind of interesting I know
like WWE now is trying you know tries to like you know have to war change
well just to what your warm-up but I feel like but like I feel like it waters
it down when you do that especially when there's like no reason to have it
well you have to you had to brought your role matches male and female you just had
two different our words in the medicine chambers male and female so yeah which
that I that makes sense to me like but like the war games is like a feud-ender
like yeah and and so like I feel like you're shoehorning at that point but
what do I know I'm just on the internet exactly what do you know I'm just paid
to speculate wildly instead of being an actual in insider paid that you do it for
free and make this big you didn't my ass off like crazy there you go get some ads
talk to local folks get some ad space in here yes get a patriot or something of
the like and so that's what I do get myself a cup of coffee each month out
of the deal but yeah so into that was intimidation games like it was yeah I
mean to be honest it was kind of a nothing show like the opener was amazing
you know the first tag team match was pretty darn good and then it just got
progressively worse until the main event and the main event like again like I
and I will concede any argument someone wants to make about the main event not
being good because that if that's not your bag but like I enjoyed the main event
I thought it was a good match I did too but the rest of it was exactly why I
expected to free to your guys taking it slow and being the shadow each other
does yeah can ask where and then to ledges like that I can't ask
wearing the better than that so yeah so like but yeah the rest of the show like
intimidation games was not terribly intimidating like that unless I you're
scared about how bad it was man especially the five thousand dollar
match thing oh like I have not been that angry at booking by any company in
quite some time like that that upset me way too much for a guy who has no steak
in the game I feel the same way I have no steak whatsoever but damn it I was just
but you know it is what it is it can't imagine you what what could have happened
just imagine you what could have what could have been exactly you know but
but they but you know as I like to say they can't all be singers it's just I
was expecting a bit more math than what we got out of the deal overall I'm not
gonna sugarcoat anything so hopefully so hopefully the tape the taping
surrounding intimidation games will pick things up a bit
hopefully well and I hopefully will see something build a bit more going into
War Chamber that is going to also like going back to a War Chamber discussion
that is something that kind of like worries me in terms of how the broadcast
cycle of MLW is is how do you how do you promote a feud-ender like War Chamber
when you're only showing when you're really only promoting things like twice a
month yeah yeah one show to promote that for March yeah and so I like I at a
certain level like how are you gonna do that properly especially especially if
we're gonna do especially if we're gonna do Selena versus Cesar and one of them
again speculation because like it's going to be a bunch of randos
yeah heritably speaking because like there's no like there's not really much
of a proper stable on either side of them like Cesar is Cesar is literally
just bringing in random folks Selena has a small core of folks but otherwise it's
still like rounded out by CMML luchadors that they whatever they can get but yeah
so we'll see what happens like hopefully things will get a little bit more upbeat
if nothing else we at least have a War Chamber to look forward to even if we
don't understand how we got there yet because I do enjoy me a War Chamber
they got they got they got the tools to do it they got guys who specialize in a
War Chamber-esque environments whether it's the second gear crew whether it's
the calling whether it's the response like all those guys are hardcore enough to
pull off at least one of those chambers it'll be fine so I guess we can move on
on shut things down talk about what else we got going on in the wrestling world
of course Muffins has got got his ten pounds of pod assume MWA's back is it
correct yeah all right so we got ten pounds of pod we also he also has the
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promotions so if you're an eastern I actually keep your eyes out for SCW pro
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a bluegrass Iowa as well we're also I'm also sponsoring Richard Holiday MLW
WTF superstar at the New South Haas fight tournament that's gonna be on WI TV
or IWTV tonight and tomorrow Friday Saturday I've drank the coffee now I'm
giving him more money to go win fights for me for me I've no stake in this game
whatsoever so you know cheap plug on those folks as well keep an eye out myself
I have an interview with SCW pro Grand Slam champion JT Energy that'll be coming
out in the next few days because I've been too busy doing everything else to
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