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Welcome everyone back to the Urban Wrestling Network. I'm your host for this
special interview with in my opinion the number two draft pick. It truly is the
number two draft pick for MLW. The suplex assassin Alex King. How are you man?
I'm good. I'm ready to give this podcast all this work. Awesome awesome. I love to hear it.
And the first thing I actually really want to jump into is the nickname. I think the
nickname kind of caught everyone off guard. The suplex assassin is definitely
something that you don't just get by being around. How did that nickname come about?
I actually, I came up with it myself. I did this evolved tryout in my first year
and I did my tryout match with Bobby Flocko and at the end Gaze Polsky gave us
feedback. He was like you don't have a character. You need a character. What's your
character? Whatever because I was just gonna be like the strong the strong dude
the moha or whatever and I thought that would get me by but it didn't. So I was
like what I can't be the wrestler I can't be the suplex machine I can't be the
human suplex machine either because that's a pad. I don't want to be the
wrestling machine because that's Kurt Angle. But I want to use my amateur
background in my wrestling. So what am I gonna do? So I was playing one of the
2k games and I was creating myself in the game or whatever you know trying to
like put together like an attire and like stuff like that and I typed in I put
in assassin and then I was like hold on. Suplex assassin. There's never been a suplex
assassin. I'm gonna be the suplex assassin and then I just thought I just ran with it.
I was ran with it. That's pretty interesting. I do YouTube and I typically do
the 2k universe modes so that's pretty cool to see that that's kind of helped
you know especially wrestlers versus yourself you know get that nickname so
I thought that was really cool that's the first time I've actually ever heard of that.
I'd like to really use it's unique. And speaking about you know your early days
to what actually got you into wrestling is I know it's one of the strangest
businesses to be in so what was the deciding factor for you? What got me
into professional wrestling was watching Stone Cold demolition from a DHS
game like an off-release but it was a chronicle his feud with Kane going into
Bad Blood. His first blood match with Kane and that Hell in the Cell match and
I literally watched it every single day and like I think even when I first started
watching I didn't exactly know who Stone Cold was but the person that I
bought it from kind of explained to me his character and I was like well this
this should be exciting. This definitely should be out of the freaking boss every
every day. Night in the night out we can't not get behind that.
I think we're all about to do that. Oh most definitely. I walk into work sometimes when I used to shoot
I'd walk into the work sometimes. I'd have Stone Cold's team song playing in my head
or when I'd be walking like him or whatever I'd be looking at my boss but no I'm not going to do this today.
I think we've all had that one. That was that one day.
I think they definitely try it and spit that so I once asked and since we're
kind of jumping around here your arsenal and as I've heard has over a
hundred suplexes in it or more which is insane to me. Now who do you
primarily take your like where do you draw the inspiration and where does your
moves take bits and pieces of the rest of this from?
At first it was Brock Lesnar. That's somebody who AR Fox told me to watch a lot of
and then there's definitely Taz, there's Kurt Angle, there's Scott Steiner, there's Rick Steiner.
A little bit of Sheldon Benjamin even though he doesn't do a lot of them. He still does some.
And then like I just kind of like that took like bits and pieces from everybody
or whatever so I didn't want to be any of them but I wanted to I guess draw from them.
So basically it's your own craft essentially.
Yes yeah.
All right pretty cool. I want to talk about for you first starting out
was there anything that you know some people are like naturals in this business
isn't this business when they when they come out for you was there anything that
kind of was hard to get used to at first or your first training?
Remember in spots that was the hardest thing sometimes sometimes it's hard now
oh that's probably the hardest thing to live like man can I really like
Fox would like stack like we'd start off at one spot and then he'd add to it and then
he'd add to it and then add to it and I'm like I don't know if I can remember some of this
and I remember asking him like do I have to do spots with my matches like
do I have to do this like I don't want to do this I don't want to do any of it
but at times got on and I've learned to do things that
go more in line with my instincts it makes it easy.
So you may not see me doing a whole bunch of running spots or whatever
I'm doing for someone else but me myself I won't do it
but I'll just find ways different ways to get into school practice different ways to
get into certain situations and I think that's what sets me apart from a lot
of people and that's kind of what brought me to the
day.
Your your in-ring psychologist is one of the things that I personally love about
you it definitely for me stands stands apart
because you're able to tell a story really well and
when did you kind of first start realizing you know I'm actually pretty
good at this you know like when was that like
honestly I before you said this like I didn't really think my
psychology was like great I mean it's good
but like I don't think so much in wrestling psychology so much I think
more of what if I was in a fight then like a
back alley fight that had like wrestling ropes no we'll put it
like this if I was in a back alley fight and there's a wrestling ring
and I had to beat this other guy what can I do like how am I going to do this
how am I going to get across to maybe just people in the alley
watching what's happening how am I going to get them engaged into
what's happening because I mean you can watch a fight and not be engaged until
something big happens I'm going to say block not soft
but building up to that person getting a block knocked off like you got to have
like certain proponents in that match but I am I'm delighted to know
because of my ring of psychology. Yeah I um I that's one of my fair things
about watching your matches besides the suplex I think that's what everyone
loves that that's what brings people to the show
is that you you're very believable and speaking about you know being very
believable you um you had recently said during an
interview and I was you know watching at things around since you you're by the
way if you don't know second number two draft pick here by the way
you're in the you're in the league and you mentioned the match with Alexander
Hammers though now before I get to that what are your goals for the league
the league um continue to uh become the best wrestler I possibly can be
um that's I guess that's like my overall goal
um
Bust heads and win championships. Now you also mentioned Alexander
Hammers though now would you have uh Evil Ones is a big fan of
Hammersone and I had to ask out of all people why
Hammersone. Well so in the interview I said that you for me you go in
and you punch the biggest dude there in the face yes Jacob Pogtu is
overall champion but Hammersone has literally been
undefeated for two years for two years with the open weight open weight uh
headway championship so if I'm gonna go in there and go out for
anybody it's gonna be him. That is actually uh it's pretty pretty
solid not gonna lie uh one of the things I was checking on on
social media and I was trying to get as much details again doing my research on
you um the kaiju standard it was really interesting when I saw it because
I am a fan of mixed martial arts and I do know that that has a lot to do with
self-defense and um also competition wise that that's that that's
like martial arts style so I was wondering if you could kind of elaborate on
being the kaiju standard I was really
that the kaiju standard was kind of an inside joke between me
and Oshe Edward um because I wrestled him
the week before I put that on my Twitter bio um and he's the big bad kaiju
and since I beat him he passed the torch to me
which was the beads that I wear now um I was like yo uh because I couldn't because
like I've always I've been a fan of Sheldon Benjamin so long but I was really
a fan of him with his gold standard and since I can't be the gold standard I was
like well you know what I'll be the kaiju standard and I got
random by him and he was like one with it I was like okay I'm a one with it
okay I was I was super like and I was like well I got I had to ask
things I was super invested in that um and speak about mixed martial arts you
hadn't been part of American Top Team which is
who trained plethora of talent but all in the UFC and the PFL
um one of your stablemates Tom although I'm not sure if you guys are feeling
good or not but when your stablemates Tom Baller he recently just competed in
the PFL how has that transition been you know you you're
brought in by it by um American Top Team have you been around the guys
I mean has there any been any training for you yet with them
uh no not yet actually um the week of the signing announcement uh I got to talk
with King Mo and he did say that we would we would get some training in
with every everything like really opens up um so I'll definitely start
training there because there is a facility in Atlanta
so that'll definitely be cool um I'm from I'm pretty familiar with Tom
I wrestled him at uh paradigm for wrestling
the match hasn't dropped yet but I can't wait for it to drop
there you go folks paradigm for wrestling check it out it'll be out soon
I get all the plugs you know I as soon as as we go and so you're brought in
personally by Dan Lambert and it's been stated I was reading the MOW uh
the MOW news and everything you look at someone like Calvin Sankman who came
in last year made a name for himself you on the other hand
are on the same path to make a name for yourself but with the guidance of guy
who literally raises champions mm-hmm so for you
what is the biggest thing that you want to pick from from a mind of a guy who's
literally been around nothing but champions
I mean the simplest answer I can give is to how to be a champion
um because like I mean it's that's being a champion is more than winning a belt
I think it's it's a mindset it's a it's even a lifestyle and it's
kind of a way that you carry yourself
but then also like I want to learn how to be more efficient
um in these in these matches and in these fights and I feel like
watching King Moe King Moe's pretty efficient in what he does they don't
waste a whole lot of time um Tom Wallard doesn't waste
as much time or whatever so even though like even now I
I don't have a whole lot of wasted motion I would like to be able to increase that
or whatever so there's so there's no wasted motion at all
and you know speaking about constantly you know being at the best you can be
in ever since you've been wrestling has there ever been a
match for you felt that you've taken that extra step
from you know after that match was done
um the first time that really happened was my match with Oshia Edwards
um he really made made me step it up
and he he made me uh go to that next level so now every not every match after
that um I kind of got a little bit of chip in my
show not not like a bad chip in my shoulder a little bit of chip in my
shoulder whatever you have every single match at that level
um and sometimes sometimes it works out and other times it doesn't
but I mean you can try to bring somebody to your level
but if they can't if they can't deliver then
is what it is you know the great the greatest
the diamonds are made from the most pressure so that's it's it's interesting
though that you said that too um sorry about that I also want to talk about
your finisher yes and I don't want to say too much about it and I feel like I'd
give it away because I feel like you'd have more of this since it is yours that
I feel like you'd have more of a better insight to tell the audience about why
this is so devastating of a maneuver
uh so yeah it's uh it's called the as well called something like
soup like it's also called the Joker play um which I didn't know it's called I
didn't know Joker from uh from czw even used it
before I saw it I originally saw it in the video game
it was a part of judeulac's moveset um and I was like why doesn't anybody use
it so I'm like well I'm I'm a user it looks it
looks like death
uh it looks like that I mean from a working standpoint
and I keep it to be safe but from a from a performance standpoint it looks
like death at the time no matter how it's flow
so you're a guy of when you're out there and
you have your spots you just look like a complete badass
the the conference is there you're welcome the conference there and
how about didn't take you to truly get like a hold to build
Alex K and the super assassin up to where he is now like how long did it take
you to kind of finally hit that stride for you
um my when I really hit the stride was the future showcase
um that Phoenix City does since the Intermediation will does um
well I think yeah I think I did I think this is the first one
first or second um after that triple threat match I had but Nolan and uh
Jack Gryffin um like that I think that's when I really came into my own and I
really started to realize that you know I can actually
like do this I can actually be good at this before I wasn't
I wasn't working that often um because I didn't really know where to go or
like where to work um so after being on that stage and
you know people receiving me and understanding
like I guess like my motives and my character and stuff or whatever like
I was able to really like pick it up and run with it and then also
going back to Oshie Edwards um I got to talking to him after after my
match or whatever I got to talking to him or whatever and he gave me some
really good advice as far as presentation though because before
I used to wear like the the like wrestler like the wrestling wrestling
thing like the shooter shoes and all that um and he kind of popped the idea
to my head you like get something custom made I mean my gear before I already
had my name on it and stuff like that but it wasn't my own design
to really design something for that that's more me
um to get like boots and stuff you know just to look just just for that
presentation look more efficient um because before that I was like I'm
never gonna wear boots I'm just gonna wear wrestling shoes all the time and
that's that's just gonna leave me there but the more like the more I wear my
boots the more I realize it does make me look way more professional
it's funny you you speak about professional and I remember when I first
I was like why is this guy looking he's supposed to be in an actual like not the
squared circle but one where there's a mat and like there's like a reference so
you're pinned on the floor it's over I was like huh
I was like weird that as soon as I was like wait this guy is the complete
opposite of that I was like what in the world
it really blew my mind and as I kept watching a lot of your matches
your character work and the work you put in is quite literally amazing by the way
I really love your in-ring work and I can't just add enough the guy does
great work um you're now at a prime spot coming in as the number two draft pick
you now have basically put put a footnote of where you want to be
are you going to be at Philadelphia? Yes yes that'll be my that'll be my debut
that'll be my debut that's even better because now the next question I have is
actually um not from me it's from one of my
colleagues they are a bit this is they and in their words this is a
contra podcast and um is there any fear you mean
you've got contra unit you've got uh El Hefe and Aztec
Underground you you want to rise up and you want to go for the gold when you
have two two units like that that are trying to take over the lay of the
land so to speak is that current is that you know
create any pressure any fear of extra to move forward in the company?
Nope not at all you step up I'm knocking down I can't knock you down
then I'll come back again try to knock you down again
I don't have any fear of anyone I love that the only the only person I
fear is my mother that's it that is fair that is very fair
um and to also go on that you are you going to be you're going to be an
action you're you're you're you're making appearance if you can um and
Philly? No I'll definitely I mean I don't know
Zach I know that I'll debut in Philly I don't know
who I'm wrestling or anything like that but I know I was definitely wrestling
with Philly um so yeah I definitely know I'll be I know I'm gonna
wrestle. That's it we love to hear it and I think
the last like three questions I have I'll go I'll go by one by one
um you've been you've been in the business business for a little while now
and about two two and a half two and a half I'm gonna call it a grizzled
veteran and um so in the two years if there was
ever a time to where you know this that you're you're finally being seen and
you're finally being out there what was the hardest change for you what's
realized right I've got everything in stride people have eyes on me and I'm
having these great matches what was the biggest challenge of constantly staying
at that level once you actually got there
uh like the confidence outside of the ring
um like not not talking negatively negatively to yourself
that's that's that's that's a hard thing for me sometimes
um I struggle with some depression um so really trying to be nice to myself
um and not um and not be one of those
I always say that there's a bunch of people in the world
that probably think you suck don't be one of those people
so there's probably there's probably people on this planet right now that
think I suck but I can't be one of those people
so um remembering just to be nice to myself um and also stay humble
with where I'm at because this can be taken from me at any moment
um so the hardest part is whether you just keep kind of keep my head on my
shoulder uh that is as real as it gets right there
it's really and um also since you've also learned a lot I mean
is there any advice you kind of have for other people who think that this may be
a career they want to get into or you know because they sit on tv and they
really want to do this um any advice you get possibly given for them just
starting out um starting out finding a good school
um the WDGV4 in Atlanta Georgia which is my home school
uh that's definitely a great place to start um and then like once you get like
once you get like your training over with and graduate from school
um travel um like make your money at their shows that are
going to be seen the shows that aren't going to be seen and that's something
that I've learned um this last year and kind of this year
um so like make your money at the shows or whatever get your reps in you know
try stuff at the shows that aren't going to be really seen
um and then when you don't like fog up your weekends with those shows like
when you have a free weekend go if you live in Georgia or even if you don't
live in Georgia go to like an action or beyond or a limit
list or whatever and just like travel and network and meet people like
um once I kind of got out of like
the like real like southern wrestling of Georgia and I started
going to action and paradigm and stuff and all these other shows are on the
on the higher level of indies like those locker rooms
are filled with people who all want to have the best show possible
um and like you can ask them questions like most of them have been doing this
for a for a pretty long time they've been doing it at a pretty high level for a
long time so like always ask questions like if you if you do end up getting
a spot on that show and you have your map don't just come back and just think oh
well you know the crowd was hot uh I did a good job like always go ask
and see if people watch your match and get critiques
on that and then with the critiques like really like if you can write that
shit down or if you have a good memory just remember it or whatever um and then
and then apply apply what you learned from that match to the next one you know
and then from that match to the next match that's how guys really get better
you continue to apply the knowledge that you learned you don't just stay
um kind of static you're all you're dynamic
oh that is a gem right there folks and that's what these podcasts are all about
dropping gems for you guys that's what I try to do which that's what I try to get
um and last but not least right now you you kind of right now the M.L.W. world is
your oyster and with that comes a lot of ice
with that comes a lot of people saying hey I want that guy is there any country
that you have not wrestled and yet that you'd love to wrestle with?
I want to wrestle um in the UK um I want to wrestle in Germany
I want to go to Japan I want to go I want to go as
as much international as I possibly can that's always been a goalie
and speaking you actually gave me another question I thought I knew I said
I have one last one but I have one more here
that's as many questions as you want I love it um your wrestling style it's
called shoot style it's a shoot style wrestling and how have you been able to
kind of because obviously not every wrestler that you that you want to get to
the same have you been able to kind of or have you ever
incorporated anyone else's wrestling style in yours to try to expand your arsenal?
um I I've I've learned over the past couple
weeks that I'm pretty good at arm drag so I might I might make it a little lucha
um outside of like like doing springboard and stuff like that
but like I'm trying to uh incorporate like more a little bit a little bit
just a little bit of high flying stuff like like some frog splashes
I was working on this like uh just 350 spin
spot uh frog splash um that I'm still working on but at some point I'm gonna
bust it out um um but like I mean I would like
to keep everything on the mat but I also want to be able to adapt to any
situation um and ultimately have fun and do some
new shit like yes I throw I can throw sweets like I can do it well but
I can also bust out a nice arm drag or or dive on somebody you know like I mean
I'm not limited to just wrestling and it's um it's I'm going on another one
but um one of the key things I feel that isn't necessarily dead
today in pro wrestling but I feel is very undervalued
it's technical wrestling that wrestling because I feel that right there
tells a whole story but I want to get your opinion on the aspects and how
important it is for tech wrestling for you um I like when I first started
um I didn't I didn't I didn't really I didn't understand pro wrestling technical
wrestling so much um but as it's kind of gone on I've
realized the importance of it um and I noticed like a lot of guys watching
matches like they just kind of like blow through it I would
never like they don't need time to work anything or whatever or like get
anything out of the training the chain wrestling is going on
they're just trading wrist locks or trading hammer locks it's kind of just
like at that point I'm I'm out I'm taken out of the
match like I I just walk away at that point um because I feel like when you
don't take the wrestling part of wrestling and you're just
trying to get to the first running spot or something that that kills everything
or whatever because like going into a match okay this is gonna
most of my most matches are probably are pretty tense or whatever so you're
building this tension you're building tension you're building tension or
whatever and then you just you just shit on the
wrestling aspect of wrestling like grab something hold it
you like you don't like the crowd doesn't always have to be up I think that's a
lot of people why I like to blow through the technical
aspect of wrestling because they want the ooze and the odds but if you if you do
the technical part of wrestling well people not maybe not everybody comes up
people are gonna people are at least gonna give you a
outstanding ovation or whatever like oh that is really cool
oh you have you have a little bit of scramble in your break
that was really cool but you guys are actively trying to wrestle and then when
the wrestling when wrestling is working more then you get to the other stuff
let me throw a punch a strike or you throw a slam or something but
you got to do the wrestling part first you have to do that well
because you know you're a guy who has a multitude of holds that I've seen
especially and you do a great job um so submission wise which
from the ones I've seen you don't play out too much but when it does it seems to
do a significant amount of damage to your opponents
so how when did the first day of you know adding that submission style to your
game first kind of take hold for you um I started working with uh one of my
buddies named Damian Tengra um he's he's got like a jiu-jitsu like
Muay Thai background um and just to kind of watching him and working with him
training or whatever like he's pretty he's pretty damn good at
submission um and like I was trying to think of
more ways like like in between me throwing somebody like how can I
inflict more damage on this person without having to exert too too much
for so I can put I can I can tie you up like a like a
pretzel and put you in something um and that's again like expanding my arsenal
like sometimes sometimes my matches aren't all suplexes sometimes I might throw
a neck breaker or a backbreaker in there somewhere
or whatever but it all everything kind of still leads to that suplex
I'm softening you up. Perfect for the big moves.
Yes for the big moves yes. You know story tongue and
here's a good one I was just thought of so for storytelling purposes um has
there ever been a storyline that people may not necessarily know that you've
been in that you know you've built to the the pinnacle so to speak of the
boiling point there you go of a rivalry to where you've had a
crowd investor at least some of some of them invested um how does that feel
now that you've got people on the edge of their seat
wanting more from from what you guys are doing you know that culmination of a
story that is probably the greatest feeling on the
planet I don't get I don't get put in too many angles
as far as with some of these promotions that I work at
the the angle I was just in with Isaiah Bronner
that was really good um the because throughout that taping
for the UWFI contenders like we had to cut promos after each match
um and like before then I I mean I cut like some
like in like in my over here with my green screen stuff
but never really anything like like had like some
to it um but with those tapings and like really being able to
really like feel myself um and not have to like center myself
but hey like I'm not like when I cut promos like I'm not trying to like
curse the entire time but if I if I need to if I need to say an
expletive I need to be able to say an expletive um
and just like the promos that me and him had back and forth like that had like
that real like I really felt the passion or whatever and I really
felt like the anger and the intensity um and like
by the time by the time the all the episodes aired like people were like
yo we really need to see this because it was really it was it was a match with
the two top prospects he had he came out on top which is fine cool great awesome
um but uh people were really invested in what was going to
happen nobody they didn't know if he was going to win that he
know five is going to win but they knew the match was going to be a
better so you know and speaking about promos has has it ever been
difficult for you like you know going up there and just cutting a promo just like
harry hey i'm gonna say this yeah it's um it's
it's still hard um sometimes but like i've found that you kind of have to give
yourself even if like the promoter or something
doesn't give you bullet points to be kind of cause of what you want you
could give yourself bullet points so you can get to the point as quickly as
possible because somebody wants to hear i'm not the rock i can't i'm i'm not
about to entertain you for five minutes so being able to like give
yourself bullet points give you give yourself uh you know
little points to hit um that makes it easier and then sometimes just going
off the dome and just really feeling those are my best
from when i'm just speaking i'm not trying to i'm not i'm not trying to be
something i'm just speaking to you and what i'm feeling right
going to make and um another one i wanted to ask
was obviously any wrestling match i'm not too sure i'm gonna ask this and hoping
that you can kind of clarify it too um there's a great deal of mixed martial
that also goes in into wrestling though at least for certain people
i'll start again so you know i believe for you and a few other people mixed
martial arts does place semi-heavy into what you do now
yeah yeah yeah so having to learn essentially two different sports
was that ever complicated in trying to like you know mix them together and
measure and make it you know float float in your arsenal was it just kind of
as much came naturally it kind of came naturally i mean mixed martial arts
as the basis it's wrestling and then you add in the strikes you add in the
submission and everything else so i mean trying to i mean adding in
strikes wasn't difficult and adding in submissions wasn't wasn't too hard either
um trying to hold them together can sometimes be a little tricky
but um but yeah for my style it works and i feel like everybody should have
some sprinkle of either rest either like mat wrestling or learn some or catch
wrestling just something or whatever just to
um
kind of help them stand out a little bit because that everybody's gonna do it but
but that smaller people that are gonna do it can help you
all right awesome awesome and um my last one i can guarantee it's the last one
so it's like twice already in terms of kind of separating yourself and how
important is marketing marketing is extremely important
it's extremely important like i myself have my own theme
right i don't a lot of guys use youtube music or something that i have my own
theme um and that i'd always tell people if you
have if you have your own theme music it has your name it has your gimmick
it's catchy it has some cool lyrics in it that is going to do the job for you
before you even step up on the stage like my when my music hit and i hear the
people in the crowd singing the song
my job's already done everything else i do after that is actually
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