You!
What's going on? It's Tristan Tye aka Kiro Kwan. You're watching Urban Wrestling Network. Hail Katra!
What's really heard ladies and gentlemen? It's the OG Boricua Dandada the talk of New York chef.
I'm here with none other than Macho Macho before we introduce this young man. What's really good baby?
Oh you know man we doing it. We kicking it wide when one goes to the next brother. That's it.
You know that's all how we do. And I'm gonna let you introduce him because you was the one
who put me on to him first. So please introduce this man right here because I'm stupid height.
Dude I've been following this cat for a minute. You all might know him from his work at MLW.
Kuro Kwan and man he's just he's the assassin of the none other than Hail Katra himself.
Tristan Tye. What's good brother? What's good guys? How you doing man? Thank you for having me man.
This is nice. It's cool that you guys reached out just because you know it's been uh you know I came in.
No one really known who I was and then I left for a year like over a year and a half. So you come in
unknown you leave unknown and then when you come when you start to come back people are hitting you
up to talk to you. It's kind of crazy so I must have done something right. Look respect brother.
I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you straight up like I'm I'm about maybe two years into watching
MLW like real serious. Macho hits me up. He's like yo you seen this week. I'm like nah I haven't
checked it yet. He's like yo watch son come in and I'm telling you he looks like if he's on the block
like he's ready to just thug somebody out. So I instantly like yo all right I gotta watch this
and the way you come out and I'm gonna use the word allegedly to not get anybody in trouble.
But you know when you're about to go thug somebody out around the block and you got that beef and
you walk in like you know I'm about to put the work on you when you walked out like that I was
like yo my man must be from New York because he's coming in ready to wreck shop. It's one of those
things it's like don't like I'm never like if anyone gets hit by me it's never be you never
have to give me the wide you hit me face you know. I mean so that's kind of how you take you take
that you control it and then you monopolize that you know so it's good man it's good. So start off
with your questions brother. Yeah man so obviously it's been a minute you've been doing the thing
however you want to fill people in and out that's your business I ain't gonna press you for it you
know that. However you know it looks like you're getting ready to come back and find form you know
getting ready to lay some heat on people and remind people exactly who you are and how you do.
So my question to you is you ready you ready to drop this and remind people exactly who you
is and put your name in their mouth. Yeah bro you know it's one of those I'm starting from a
from a whole kind of different perspective right so like I look at it like I'm the only
Asian-American wrestler in the world that could speak how I speak in terms of in terms of like
like I didn't want to say that I forced conviction but like no one is like no one is looking like
me coming at this business the way that I'm coming at it in terms of just viewpoint looking
think about 20 years after you know type you know that like that type of that type of energy were like
I don't I don't I don't I understand where I am like the the opportunity of being where I am the
platform that I'm at but I'm I'm humbly not surprised by where I'm at. Yeah put in that work I'm saying
like it's not even cocky it's just I didn't I didn't know about the first independent show that I
intended was the first one I was on. Wow. I didn't I didn't know independence I knew WWE I knew Sting
and I knew I knew Sick Nick Mondo off the roof I didn't know anything I just I'm saying just you
just chill with the boys they got on Raw you see Kane Chokesley you see these people it's like oh this
is dope you see Stone Cold you see these people and you're like this is amazing and then you know
I'm you know I'm eight years old and John Cena pops on TV and I'm like he's rapping looking jacked
any son any body you know I'm saying like I checked all the boxes of what I need to look at
you know so then so I thought that was it you know so to me like anything other than that was not
the level that you wanted to to be on and then as you obviously you get into it you have so much
more respect for these people that are coming up in the independent independence like they're the
best workers in the world and I mean a lot of genuine a lot of genuine people too so you know
you pick it up on that but in terms like the actual like the vision of like television big names
big matches moments that matter like that was the only option right so like my thing is I know
you're from Brooklyn New York and no I'm not I'm not from Brooklyn I'm not from Brooklyn I was I was
making that joke at the at the at the signing because they didn't know they thought I was gonna
they were speaking to me kind of slow so hold up being kind of like um actually a funny story
though one of the read one of the other shows we did it we did an independent show and uh Sumi
you know Sumi right so she came she was saying hi to everybody she came up to me she did a little
bow and I was like am I am I am I you know I doubt that perspective a bit in my head I was like
that's you know that's still the narrative that people yeah I guess put on you know I'm a second
to be black but I'm not gonna not do my martial arts like I'm very disciplined but they don't know
that I have another a whole other element that you could bring to the table now I can communicate
in a whole different way and you got the face to mark it off and now you have a whole different
whole different aspect around it so like business wise like it just makes sense now the contra thing
now incredible opportunity but I'm hoping through just being me that they that they see that I don't
have to be boxed in yeah and it because then it's forced you have all you know you've made white
people tatlido putting made like Japanese lettering on their gear and shit and it's cool as fuck but
you put it on but you type you type cast an Asian person doing it and you're supposed to
right looks like it's important but if that's not how I look I'm adopted too so all all boxes I don't
fit in those in those areas I don't walk around any Asian people like I didn't have like a lot of
Asian friends growing up but now you have a platform where you have somebody on the east coast that's
not that doesn't the only one that looks like me on every card don't put me in that box because one
of not I'm not that and you can't put me there type of thing so I guess the New York like you're
like you're saying it protects your uh integrity of what your goals are at all times just being where
we're from having to talk fast things fast you know it helps you with it I'm so glad you said that
because uh I hate when if you're Russian they want you to act like Ivan Drago if you're Indian
they want you to be like some kind of Bollywood but like why can't talents just be them that's my
biggest beef with this industry if they feel that well this is what you are then this is how you have
to be and it's like like calm down with that because I'm so much more this but what borough are you
from is what I'm curious no it's funny even funny out Long Island get the hell out of you even more
so you know just spending time um over you know I still got people over you know I have people in
the brother people in Brooklyn people in Queens or whatnot but um you know went to school went to
school in Long Island you know all my home music from Long Island like a lot of them grew up in the
city you know came here and all that stuff but are you south are you like uh are you towards my wife
is from uh Belport Long Island so that's D oh no like the sticks that's like Alabama Long Island
like no we're not from there no we're from I'm from I'm from NASA I'm like okay so you're borderline
Queens NASA okay okay that's what's up yeah man so I mean you pointed out something that I don't
think many people get and that's like when New York gets under your skin you know you're born and raised
in New York so you know we come off we can be real respectful and real understanding of the
situation or we can get get in it with people if you know they come up they come in correct
and chef and I've had these conversations a bunch of times we we we know the deal so we get that
one of the things I'm really curious about ultimately is where you want to see yourself
in like the next year or so like what is your short-term plan like getting back in it feeling
healthy being good you know getting back in your groove in your swing are you going to take a
shot at a belt are you going to just want to put on some banger matches like what what is it you
really want to do you're greedy for this question yeah yeah I mean like so like personal personally
like again it's it's it's continuously changing the narrative of what um my character is what
Contra is what MLW is you know I'm saying like people can look at oh I want to go to MLW so I
could go to AW NXT like if we change the narrative the MLW is not stepping stone that's the platform
that's my goal you know I'm saying the the the textures only remain the same no longer we say
you know I'm saying so like you know yeah I mean they just they announced a TV deal recently so I
mean like that's that's huge dude and they've been on TV and you gotta look at the talent and look
and look even behind the scenes these are people who have worked at the dance you know I'm saying and
then they made their own so it's like people like we're cheap we're talking like it's not upstairs
yeah sure we might not be doing rooftop numbers you know I'm saying or like rooftop money and a
lot of different aspects but we're upstairs like people are waiting around line just to try to peek
inside and see what's going on like only the elite of the like you're not coming up there because
people feel bad for you you're not coming up there because you know somebody you're coming up there
because they let you in yeah I mean like that's like the crowds the crowds are hype when when
you guys just pop in before COVID like the crowds was just popping and just like excited to be there
and you can't it's so hard to just get that kind of like genuine excitement out of something and you
guys really pull that out of fans so like that's fun to watch you know a different type of fans too
bro my better cut you off no they're uh they're different type of fans like you go to a like
other independent show and they're like very smart crowds in terms of like oh he might have
botched there like oh that was um that was a good use of uh heat right yeah like so like they're
trying to dissect and what maybe they did maybe they did wrestling school once or twilight who knows
right but the mlw crowd like they're like all in like how I used to hear about how crowds were
like that's how they are we're in Texas they hated us because they were supposed to they didn't like
us because we're the bad guys we're the why would you know I'm saying it was just very genuine like
storybook reaction timing and all that's the being exposed to that was just super crazy you know
so yeah good experience and all around and good people so if you you got a couple of questions
you know I see me I'm listen I enjoy this because he feels like he's home you know what I mean like
talking to him I feel like I'm talking to somebody I mess with on the block and all that so I just
enjoyed this but when you said and I keep telling people is exactly what you said all these people
that want to go somewhere get seen and go somewhere else I keep telling people if you want the company
that you're ready to get to a certain level you got to make your show that thing you got to make it
I want my mania moment but I want my mlw moment the next kid that comes up has to say that about mlw
and you 100 positive right now being from where you're from where did you train did you train
because I'm curious because I only know one school in Long Island and I think it's NYC
NYWC yeah yeah that's where you trained no no no that's actually um that's where I made up my first
like debut type thing I made a run in for my my trainer but okay but full circle that's where I got
injured too oh wow funny enough um good good place no good good guys over there um no I trained
um for FTW fight the world fight the world wrestling um my trainer Kona Kapucha he's an
independent wrestler he's actually just he's actually starting to uh make a resurgence right away
he's he's having a match in uh in March I'm gonna pop out for that um but yeah man that was someone
who uh and then the other the other school is creative pro it's over there okay okay um but uh
yeah no it was one of those where I looked at creative pro and I saw how that worked and it was
it was obviously impressive it was almost like you know dodgeball it's like it was global gym
and there was average joes but like I kind of I like I like the rusty weight feel I kind of like
that like even though I knew obviously like not even want to say shortcut wise but I guess like
expansion of knowledge wise having you know uh Ryan Myers and having the you know Zach Ryder
come down all his boys come down and like you know you want to hear what they gotta say right you
got and you've got you know MJS over there you got people you got people who are who are guys over
there but at the same time it's like you know the ropes the ropes you know I'm saying like
knowledge and exposure there's an always Nick there was always you know dictate leadership
and whatnot so like and also the type of people you're gonna be around you know I'm saying I don't
need a class of 30 you know I might need a class of five and there was a time it was about like a
four or five month period but I was the only student it was just me and him and we did it in
an MMA dojo so it was just there was just positivity and just work all around everybody look people
beating the shit out of each other beating the shit out of a bag they looked over here they heard
us slam they heard us cry and they heard us believe saw us bleeding so it was just like
this you know continuous work and then it was just a comfortable environment where like I felt like
I sped up a lot of the the training process just because it was that one-on-one type of thing so
and the investment kind of started. So if you had to pick one person that inspired you and I know
you kind of said Sting but was Sting that person that when you were a kid you were like that's what
I'm gonna be when I get older what made you want to get into wrestling? Oh um damn so no so like
basically Sting was just the face that I always walked by in blockbuster when I was with my mom
and I'm just walking down looking at random movies and it was like sounds like what the fuck movie is
that like I never knew and then one day um I turned on the TV it was like a family party you know
it's mad whack I don't want to be with my family I want to go watch TV I can't find the remote so I
just you know press the button and shit I'm looking at it and smackdown zone when it was on upn that's
what I was looking at and John Cena is just ripping apart you guys he's got the throwback jersey I
think I was probably wearing a jersey at the time but I was like he's rapping right I was like why is
he rapping and why is there a crowd there and why is there other people there where is he at what
kind of stages that why is there a big ass like fist up top like what's what you know what's going on
and then I who's talking in the background over him rapping like what's you know like what's like
what's going on and then he ran in there and picked them all up I was like you know so I guess
John Cena and that way but I thought it was one of those things like you're 16 or 17 years old so
you just I didn't know who's in another room I kept going to that room to watch and press that channel
just hoping it was there and I mean then one day my mom saw me she was like you know that's wrestling
right I was like I don't want you doing that and I was like you don't want to be doing it because
now I'm not so it's one of you know it's one of those things and um and that was it ever since
then but then you fell in love with you know and then Eddie Guerrero came into my life in terms of
just looking at like you know how and then like he kept and then now like with all this knowledge
that oh no he captured me that's why I liked it yeah I didn't know he had a dope brain buster when I
was eight I knew that he captured me into what he was doing now you know what I'm saying so it's like
but it stayed it stayed that way so like you know him you know Kurt Angle um you know that type of
thing um but it's you know and then obviously your taste changes you grew older but it was just
I was just team WWE I didn't know anything else that's what's up I mean you can't go wrong on that list
those are all legends like yeah we was talking we were just kicking it back talking about uh
John Cena and going back to his heel roots for a minute it's like my my hold up don't lie don't lie
you were trashed and Cena and I was telling you don't do that and I said I said I said I got no no
no I said I wanted him to come back to Thuganomics and Chain Gang and he never came back never
my heart is on here don't do that I got the receipt I said he never came back he left me behind
I never got my heel returned and I was sad about it it made me feel some kind of way um
but no see Cena put in the work absolutely a lot of these a lot of these vessels put in the work
I also said he's absolutely a Hall of Famer like there's no doubt everybody knows he put that work
in you know everybody he's synonymous match can I cut you off real quick cut away top try we would
and I'm glad he's on you we were thinking about doing a show that we want to talk about our
favorite top 10 belts and our favorite like our least favorite if you had to pick one title
that goes around your waist what title would it be damn I mean see there's different reasons right
for what for what that is like because of the people that I like growing up like they're the
world champs now but they were the US champ when I was watching because I was a Smackdown dude
so it was like the US title was crazy and that's spinner belt and that came out bro I was nine I
was looking at I was like the US spinner belt though I was like no way yeah no that yeah that belt
that that belt for that time you know it doesn't make sense now but I mean like I but that that
would be a belt and then the the WWE belt that anyone the old two that the that one that that
was hard and I learned one of the dudes that did my one of my tattoos he used to work for
WWE he designed that belt get out of here yeah he designed that belt he did I think he said he
did Lesnar's back or some shit too like he's dope as hell and then when warrior died he's like free
warrior mass tattoos he's a he's tattoos by Keith that's a free club he's he's he's dope I don't
know where he's at now but he's he's he's that's what's up for some reason I would put the million
dollar belt on you I'm ignorant like that I think that's the dopest belt ever but on my fault
box that's not and now we know you bougie bro it's cool it's cool the smoking skull belt for me
that's iconic that thing is wicked looking as hell dude it was great when it happened and I
missed that I was like two years old I missed that shit like this see now you showing your age
so listen as of right now we got Leo Rush as the middleweight champ I'm not even going to start
I love his work I'm not a fan I'm not a fan macho weds and I keep saying I want you to beat the
shit out of him but take the belt from him you don't like if yo Leo Leo can go in the ring dude
hold up we're not talking to Leo we're talking to him I'm just saying this Kwan Kwan got the
skill set to put a hurt on it mind know this I've seen his work all right it would be a burner of
a match if it happens yeah you know I'm team contra all the way so that's easy that's the
belt that I keep saying needs to be around this man right here and I don't care who wants to have
a problem with it this man should be the middleweight champ and if there was one if you had to go for
the tag belts on middleweight because right now Jacob Fattu was holding the heavyweight which belt
in MLW would be the one you want to target I'm that middleweight belts looking nice you know what
I mean in terms of establishing um but if like I'm really if I'm gonna be like like cocky for it
that that national open weight with hammers don't think anymore you know what I mean because I don't
you know to be typecasted in again another middleweight right so you know national open weight
you know he's a big boy you know what I mean like we've got nothing I'm like bro it's like you're
too big like you won you won that gym like you won you know I'm saying you don't gotta go there like
but yeah that's that's something too where like you know you know uh when you beat someone your
size is smaller it's expected but when someone's bigger than you and you're knocking out it's
respected you know I'm saying that's the difference you know I'm saying I don't want to have fights
that are expected I want to respect the fights that's that low-key level shit right there but
but not that not that Leo Rush wouldn't be a legitimate fight you know what I'm saying like
he's like we're the same age like and he put yeah yeah yeah and he you know I'm saying he's verified
he did his he did his work you know I'm saying but um but yeah in terms of just like the idea of
breaking down somebody to where like that whole that whole mindset of like if you're if you're
you know 10 feet 4 feet I'm putting you 6 feet so it doesn't matter you know I'm saying like that's
have a mindset so that's like if you know I would love because I love your Instagram not even a lie
to you and for people who might not know who do see this look at this man's Instagram and I'm
going to put it in the description in our links because you're one of the very few wrestlers
that you fight with such an aggressive style that you could fight someone way bigger than you and
it looks believable which in this day and age everybody is on this I need everything to look
believable like you'll stay you know jump off someone grounded pound and throw throw bows on him
or you had that one when you flipped over the rope and I've never seen it before where you hit the
guy with a high knee but landed on your feet yeah I was like I was like yo this man is out of control
ridiculous so it's like your moveset is like a cheat sheet like you know like when you got that
OD gas wrestler when you make a video game character that's you like you can't you can't make my
moveset in the game I try it's not this listen I'm not I'm not trying to stop like I've seen stuff
and I'm like yo I've never even seen this on like crazy video games and I was like man I see this
because I'm not I didn't mean to cut you off again but you know why and this is like the like the
jewel underneath the like I was always self-conscious of the ignorance that I had of not knowing who
people are albeit locker rooms rubbing shows with people that could probably like you know chop it
up with and I don't even know them from a hole in the wall yeah we're at an independent show
I bump shows with a guy by accident I'll probably text in or like doing something else
and the dude like kind of gave me an attitude at least I thought and I kind of pressed him
and then whatever like he kind of walked away I'll walk the way he knows whatever my boy my tag
partner gave Scott shadows gave Scott you should check him out too I can't speak enough about him
he um he told me you know who that is right I was like he's about he's a he's a fucking
dick like I don't care who he was like that's Zach Saber Jr. oh like and I said who because and that
and respectfully I didn't know who we were yeah yeah yeah and it was just one of those things like
you got like you know there's there's there's politics in this in this whole thing you know what I'm
saying like you don't got to do nothing wrong to do something wrong yeah you know what I mean so like
um that was one but again now going back to the moveset I'm fans of of a very short list my knowledge
of matches and and things that have gone on in the wrestling world are like very detailed in that
small bubble you know I'm saying I know what Eddie girl wore October 27 I'm saying but I don't know
what happened I don't know Japan or you know I'm saying things like that um so none of my
movesets are mimic they're things that either I know how to do or done or wanted to do to somebody
so I can't copy a style I don't have I don't have one to copy from
help now I'm a big basketball guy grew up playing it you're super athletic I'm curious if you grew
up playing basketball because you have a coordination that feels like very hood but like very athletic
like basketball shit too yeah not yeah not I played everything you know because I mean I was
always smaller so like you know I was the I was the one that just tired everybody out pretty much
so I didn't so my mom stuck me in everything it wasn't just if I was like she stuck me in karate
because she thought that would tire me out but that just made me more hyped because now I know how to
fight but I'm just trying to punch it now but yeah no I play basketball uh soccer um you know uh
lacrosse up to lacrosse I did um yeah like you know just really stay busy all three seasons I was
staying busy if I stuck to one I would if I stuck to one I would probably I would I would have
saw it through college because I would eat so many I didn't spoke I wasn't think I was on it was
wrestling so I was like why would I play a sport and in college I'm playing I'm gonna wrestle
it was tears so I was kind of like how I was thinking about it my full macho if I'm jumping on
all these questions no no no man it's good shit um one of my favorite questions to ask
us a professional wrestler is what is your favorite uh uh person do you do you prefer
a heel work or do you prefer a face work like is there a difference for you like some people
like one or the other it's just more fun for them so I'm curious about where you're at with it
clearly you're having fun doing contouring doing some some heavy heel work right now so where's
that at well um man um there's like the heat's cool because it's a controllable
feel it's a weird feeling you know I mean like but it's it's more comfortable than getting
cheered it's like people trying to say happy birthday to you when it's just like I don't
know but when you're you're hated they're like yeah if I don't hate on me type it you know I mean
because with the contrast stuff it's so different because there's power behind the heat there's
aura behind the heat with the face stuff it's like very much so if you don't like me and I want
you to like me it looks pretty bad yeah and it looks forced and you know and you want and also
you was like a chip on your shoulder like you know like you said with social media I'm the worst
wrestler in social media because I don't do anything wrestling so I just don't I'm just not a
wrestling social media I forget I have a million posts I don't I'm not thirsty for followers I
don't be following wrestlers I don't be like I don't be doing none of that I just have it I just
had it you know I mean like I made Twitter because they told me to I didn't even you know I mean like
I mean no because you know how it is back in the day people you know I mean like you know I love I
love Battle Rat too and uh there's a guy you know Gichi God he had a bar he said he said we don't do
the Twitter stuff but back in my day like in my era someone was trying to follow you they were
trying to kill you I don't want to follow you yeah thanks it was one of those it was like okay you
know so hold up I love the battle rap scene right now what is your favorite battle rap that's happened
I'm not even gonna lie to you I like damn I like Arsenal because he's so disrespectful but like who
right now would you say is is killing it and your favorite battle rap um I'm a big fan of Rum Nitty
me dot um those types you know that type of talk um grown up and still to this day with music wise to
um hey Sean and uh Su-Surf Su-Surf I listen to Su-Surf at least every day so he's on the playlist
um but yeah it's most it's it's like and again the music music matures the wrestling matures with
how you mature and grow up as like as a man and adult too many wrestlers are trying to redo high
school they're trying to be able to do a couple push-ups and get and you know get like a like a
okay looking girl now they're gonna act like you know mean like they were fucking wearing
letterman jackets you know I'm saying before years like no you wasn't you was allowed to sit at the
table don't act like you were but that's okay don't don't try to be like them yeah you understand
like type of things we're like that's that's like the whole difference of that's like those bars and
the music where it's talking about like we're not talking about um cars and all this bullshit we're
talking about stocks we're talking about art we're talking about ownership you know I'm saying like
just like like expanding your portfolio like generational wealth like that's what we mean like
that's the type of time we're on and if you're not on that like there's a you mean there's a
different texture like and that's like all the bullshit that's been coming up recently a lot of
people getting in trouble getting you know getting exposed for a lot of things it's like you know
it's just as backwards because I said this before and I like don't like to speak on a lot because
people just like the twist and it's just not I mean it's just not cool but you know it's like
people are not man I swear he was good but who's checking you guys you know I'm saying no one's
checking the doorman you know that's what I mean like you're you're allowed and you're allowing
weirdos to do one do an ocular examination of weirdos and they're not going to detect the weird
so they're letting them in you know I mean it's just a it's just a vicious cycle and but probably
they get higher and higher in power and it's just and then they bring their friends and they do this
they do that you know I mean like I mean it's not even just that I mean you're setting a president
for other kids right like instead of talking to them instead of like explaining to them and having
a dialogue and a conversation which is saying is don't don't do that and so now you're not giving
but hear me out hear me out though you're not giving people a context and you're not having
an understanding for change requires understanding you can't just say don't do this or don't do that
without context so we grew up together and nobody and we were around mad dudes nobody ever said
anything towards like that it was just not even like a part of our vocabulary you know what I mean
look what you're saying is true at the same time we've both seen some stuff that make a lot of people
get real pale oh yeah now okay we've seen some stuff all right so the way it is now is not the
way it was then and people's tolerance for things have changed um the things that were acceptable
then clearly not now and they don't mean and to get off of that sensitive shit right but before we
jump off this murder murder if you're not doing murder mook all right in battle rap I can't talk
to you okay that's the start so that's my segue I have some other questions and stuff um
you got as he pointed out an amazing moveset you're clearly an athletic dude
yeah in your zone is the right word
half man half amazing here we go he is I'm not I'm not gonna uh I'm gonna acknowledge MVP for his
contribution to this but my question for you is going to be boiled down to this
how you've been putting in some work you've been having some downtime so is there something else
that you got in your pocket that you're getting ready to pop off on people something else you
want to show off uh you're getting ready to just like surprise some people with some stuff
like yeah where you at with this yeah you're ready to jump out I have a new move and it's
crazy the more I sit the more I see my moves being done which is crazy it's crazy but I also
think about it too like and I've told friends this too like things are putting on in practice
or things you want to put feelers out there you forget that that eventually there's a point where
now you're like even if you aren't popping or whatever like you have a platform where people
are going to see people are going to tag people are going to show you know you should you should
you should get this on for you you'll type you know I mean like and then you think about like
and no one's doing it on purpose you know I'm saying no one steals nothing you know I mean but
but um I think that there's uh there's some things that I'm going to do that I'm going to
reclaim that are mine and that and that sort of way um and also in that and like an adaptation
of style you know I got you know started to think about ways to merge like the Tristan Tye character
in the Akira Kwan character to make it one the same for fans for me for promoters for just everything
it's easier it's easier to switch gears that way and it's easier to um I guess um absorb
advice because now you're speaking on one aspect like the same aspect like I can take that everywhere
you know and um so one of the things and I'll even you know I mean it's fine no one no one's gonna
no one's gonna copy it because I'll kill um like more uh pressure point manipulation
type aspects and things that I've studied and things that I've done um not like in real life I
mean like things that I've practiced you know um no one does that people do joints people do a lot
of things but the idea of me being able to legitimately hit spots that would shut your shut
your sides of your body off for a little bit and kind of circle my prey as I'm going around because
now now you know you're done so and that also that not only saves my leg but it adds the aura of
cutting down the size and just being um menace you know yeah straight menace yeah being being
being lethal you know I mean so um I'm hoping I'm hoping that um I can really display that um
when I come back because I think it's gonna it's gonna turn some heads I already got some uh some
thumbs up from um for some for some reputable names so good shit good shit uh I'm in Texas
so I'm really hyped for MLW to come over to Texas um so uh great uh if uh as a total shut
you know you guys come through Texas I'll make that drive Texas as big as fuck be so wherever
you guys show up in Texas you know I'll make that drive I'll I'll be there I'll show up I'll be
support you know but listen were you there at the uh war chamber I was not okay because again like
that we're going back to the ignorance of just not knowing my roots as well as I should be you
know I'm learning but um like that match like I didn't really digest the magnitude of what that
match was until I got until I was like like laid up in bed like I was in a cage surrounded by bar
boyer in the sportatorium against the Von Erick's with Kevin Von Erick making his first appearance
and who like all he was like in a minute yeah for me like I'm coming out and my first thing is I'm
going I'm going what I'm going with low key for about 20 to 25 seconds I get to do what I'm doing
and I get to vest them and throw a teaser out there like people wanted to see that like things
like that were like he and he gave me a nod after like one of those things where it's like behind the
scenes is dope because now you're coming in like everyone knows like well what has he done well
nothing yet well what well who's he work well he kind of just he he's kind of like a year in
well what where did he train well he you know you know album Long Island so it was all like well
you got you really got to show me something because there's nothing right now we're starting
from you know I'm saying so right off the bat you know I'm hitting him as hard as I came because
now it's just you know I you know it's just one of those do or die type things and thank god it
worked out that moment obviously like I want to do it all over again you know Von Erick's
a legit dude they're fucking wrestling royalty they've been in it for a minute look he's legit
he's been in it for a minute I mean you're in good you're in great company dude for real
you know watching gotching sheep you know Sam I L just crazy mind one of the I think the best promo
person I think in the world we are huge we were like borderline mark for the Iranian super soldier
D'varie who's a recent addition to Contra and I haven't gotten to meet him yet but that's so crazy
I popped so hard but I was like yo that's dope because I got the money back in the day too like
it was weird it was one of those you know there's some guys you just like fuck with and then like
you just didn't like because like it's stature wise how they're how they're displayed they're not here
you know I mean like I was like that was like hurricane because he always did cool shit and
then you meet him and he's dope as hell and then you watch and then you learn about this this world
and the Indians out and you're like yo his mind is different you know those types of wrestlers and
the Vargas wrote you know it was one of them so I thought he was cool yeah we we had to put one
of our podcast guys in their place for only calling him D'varie and you know we had to check
him like yo if you ever talk about that guy you got to call him the Iranian super soldier
put respect on his name word but um with Joseph's saying well I don't remember the last time I seen
a manager cut promos like him like his whole aggressive like we're gonna do whatever we want
to you it just feels perfectly in with guys like you guys like Jacob Fatou you know what I mean like
that whole aggressive vibe it's like everybody's in this perfect pocket and it's just fire so
my question because I had a female because I told I was gonna interview you she was like yo you
got to ask him is he bringing the corn roll braids back just why I usually I change my hair every
match so um the they I mean they'll make appearance one way or another I don't know
that one I'm gonna do something though I'm gonna do something it's been a it's been a minute though
they're gonna hurt so bad listen people don't know if you guys straight if you ever have braids
how hard they got a pull to keep them from my head and it's pinched straight too so like you'll
if they if they braid it and they don't tie it up right away it's gonna be there it's gonna look
like it just it comes undone like yeah yeah thanks I mean so um yeah when you can you can feel like
the the pull and tuck on your face you just like and I'm happy I'm happy to the MLW the staff like
they they that they that they um that they rock with it because I uh my mom and my mom and my
friends they're asked like you're gonna braid your hair like what if they don't let you I was
like I'm going with a braided I was like because they're gonna take it out themselves because
I'm going there I'm you know at whole you see all those documentaries you hear podcasts you shoot
interviews and the one consistent thing is like ask for forgiveness not permission I'm going with
my hair braid so I'm gonna say I'm gonna say sorry if you don't like it but they let me keep it
forgiveness before permission absolutely again just to make myself even more like the whole
in composite what I'm coming back from like it's my new like moniker you could say the exception
doing a lot of thinking about a lot of things that have been going on in the world and wrestling
my career all that I've been the exception to all of it in terms of just like trying to typecast me
as as this like I'm the exception of that you can't just be gone be injured and then come
maybe not most people the exception that's not even a cocky it's a responsibility now
of like if people are really gonna get not even like give it give a metaphorical torch but just
a platform that people understand like just from from all areas like I'm gonna represent what you
can if you need me to talk to these kids I can't if you need me to talk to these mothers I can't
if you need to talk to these dads you need to talk to these these corporates if you need to talk to
the boys if you need me to talk to you know I'm saying like I just I know I know how I know how
to talk to I know how to talk to female I'm engaged I know how to talk to females in a respectful
way you know I'm saying I know how to respect my woman and and not look like a dickhead you know
I mean like I know how to talk to kids and make sure that they don't see me smoking I don't care
if I don't care if they're smoking over here because that because maybe that boy's mom had a
really good time seeing me she's that she's a CEO she's somewhere of like some NBC corporate and she
wants to offer me a job at some show which wants to be a pitch some idea but she's seeing me with
a blunt in my hand I know that there's cat I know I know what's up like a lot of people they're
trying they don't want to they don't think outside of what's going on so I think being in that spot
now I put my friends on you know me and then not only do I put them on in those aspects of like
always being aware of your surroundings who's there make sure don't look like a bump because you
don't know who doesn't know you enough to know that you know I'm saying like things like that make
sure you make me I mean make sure your hair looks good make sure your skin's clean like you know
me do this like I mean like I'll bring I'll bring it I shall okay let's go to the store right now
I'm gonna buy some new shoes because you can't wear those here because now you're with me like
there's just one of those things and then on wrestling aspect now like LeBron went from the NBA
at when he was a kid so now he from from from a young multiple age he's only learning the right
thing he's only learned the NBA way that's where you want to go you go to college you go to Euroleague
you go to you go to G-League you got to unlearn some shit you got to take time to unlearn that to
learn the way now I'm in rooms with Dr. Tom you know me you know Dr. Tom Pritchard you know I'm
saying I'm in the courtroom in the court bower I'm in the room while MJF is getting is getting a
lecture or someone else is getting a lecture or someone else is like asking a question that I
didn't even think about before now I'm tapping in these conversations these locker rooms for people
are not only talking about their own matches they're talking about the rest of the car they're
talking about future cards they're talking about working out they're talking about diets they're
talking about stocks they're talking about family like you go to other independent locker rooms
they're talking about bullshit or they're like things like that were like there's a there's
levels of productivity environment and then recognizing when you've got to change it so
now my boys coming up with me my friends I make sure that they don't have to be around that and
if they are around it they know how to delegate to where they know what's worth it and what's not
exactly and then they through the through the the relationship that they make that web continues
now they can put people on and then it's just the way I'm not telling anybody that I talked to
I'm not giving you or like people bring me in and talk to classes or talk to my friends like I don't
know anything more than than what anybody's told me I know how to feel throughout bullshit I know
who's who's saying the right things so if you hear anything from me I'm gonna if you want my
personal opinion make sure you ask for it and I'm gonna tell you that it is that if you want advice
I'm gonna tell you what the what the what the names told me and that's just how it you know me like
what the OG said because that's that's how it is and that listen knowledge is the key to success
man like that's it mantra you got we've been chewing his ear over you got any more questions
man for days I could talk to this cat he's cool dude but I'm listening Sunday night I'm not trying
to kill his night here no no no this no listen I chose eight on purpose in case you want me to
talk about whatever but this is this is fun this is fun oh that's what's up because like like like
once again like I love I target people that I feel like they have a story that I want to hear or
that the next independent wrestling kid that wants to come into this business that they should hear
like and I feel like and I'm not trying to make it all street and nothing like that but it's kind
of what I know so the kids that are from where I'm from where you from where my child's from
is like I want to show them a blueprint from guys like you who you know bust their ass to make it
into this industry and how hard it is so like what advice would you have for that next kid trying to
get involved and take that step to it I mean if if if the grinds right the mind's right like honestly
and it and it goes with being better than yesterday every day I say that all the time all the time
like if you if you didn't if you didn't make your bed yesterday make your bed today and you
already started the day better you're already a better person like automatically you're automatically
elevated now what else can we work on what else can we improve you know I'm saying like the more
you you have that that that self-awareness that that that outer speech is what we call it where
you can speak from the inner all the time like there's no there's no nothing's changing around you
that's what I say like to these kids that I that you know that I work with through through social
working things like that it's you don't have to stop being gangster like that's not that's not it
exactly like that you don't have to stop being you you have those instincts no one's get no one's
gonna tell you like like popping off that's an that's an instinct that's not a that's not even a
skill set that's a that's an instinct some people just don't have it I know some of the hardest people
in the world that think first and act second some people just pop off there are very weak people
that pop off it's just it's what it is but when you have that outer speech when you when you speak
when you when you are in control of your actions at all times lifeguards drown it happens how could
a lifeguard drown because in the moment doesn't matter anybody's everybody's chill when they're
chill exactly but when that water gets high it's different you know I'm saying so it's about it's
about always understanding when the water's getting high and and living and living in that and knowing
that that's okay because things will pass but again it takes repetition it takes self it takes
self-awareness and then self-humility to know like what you're doing what you're doing at the time
is it is it good for you it's bad for you do you want this more than whatever goal you're setting
and is it going towards that because if you're me if you're cool with that it's my birthday I'm
having this cake I want abs I want this cake though it's my birthday if you if you if you okay if
you're good then your it's life be good we got one shot of this have that cake you know I'm saying
but if you deep down know that you want those abs more than you want that cake and it is your
birthday and you and you know I'm saying and you push that cake to the side like that says something
about your character that says something about about you same same person that ate the cake it
says something about your character not in a negative way but it just shows how comfortable
you are with you and your decisions because you can't lie to yourself you know I'm saying thanks
and that's so that's you know not to my bad he gave me kind of like a clearance to ask a few more
questions um is there any is any is there any message you want to leave wait wait wait wait
wait no I got a question I got a question hold on he said I can ask whatever all right here we go
no no no I'm not asking nothing crazy because he mentioned that his mom says she didn't want him
wrestling so the first time she seen you just say like on that mlw status like what was her reaction
to oh my baby made it it's it's a it's a it's a it's a kind of surreal thing for her just because
like I really try to extend that to the family like in that way yeah I mean I brought my mom a lot
of pain you know I mean so like being able to to show her behind closed doors that things change
that things get better things elevate things you know I mean like things come to fruition when you
put it in action and then knowing that this was the goal from like the start start to see to her
to pick up a remote and click it on and it's not the news it's not yeah yeah yeah I'm saying like
things that she would have beaten her head about what she could worry about about dumb stuff and
just think that because she knew the potential she knew that she knew I'm supposed to click on the
TV my baby's on like that she knows that yeah her to go boom see it it's like okay like that's
that's what I'm talking about that's what the fight was insane right so it's kind of like it's a
it's definitely like a it's a cool moment because it's a promise that I wanted to make but then
you want to take into like maturing and all that aspect being adopted and me wanting to get back
in a weird way of like this was the right decision all like this was fate yeah lives are gonna be
better because you made this decision my birth parents their lives are gonna it's gonna all because
like it's always there's always something more and again back to the back to the kids back to my
peers like there's always more I've seen five minutes of aggression turned into five years
you know I'm saying I've seen five seconds of a split decision turned to death you know I'm saying
so like here's your so we're talking like time is is for real taking one second to save you 10
years to think about something you have power just power in that when you can you can look you can
control time people forget that you can literally control time that's not the weed talking that's
just then that's just that's just real life it is it is so it is you know it is it is what you
make of it and we're trying we're trying to do the best we can you know this is why I gotta ask
that question I had to ask it so so do you got anything else before I ask another question
like something pressing that pressing you that you want to get off each other no like listen
he's got a beautiful lady they're a great couple they look absolutely amazing I've been with my
wife about to be 22 years so you know I'm saying like I get it now is there a if she put in the
pressure rod for the a yo what's about time for a ring thing uh she got one she got one a year ago
so oh that's wifey right there yeah that's why he's right there man I met her I met her fresh
in New York college man I don't even try to be nobody so I was actually trying to put her on to
my boy and we started talking and she started speaking like mad like like proper and I was like oh
no no I can't pass you like that I can't have it was just different I was like no she was like
speaking like super respectful like like uh like uh you know it was like it was like a code
or something so I was like that that was like the first thing I got a guy cracked this code first
before I try to pass on man what kind of what kind of wingman is that bro what happened man
it all broke down when I know when I got in the car because he was picking me up in school from
college from school got in his car he was like he's like he's like did you talk to that chick you were
saying I was like yeah I was like yeah she's mine but then you know but you fast forward you fast
forward you know you fast forward eight years right and then he's like all right you good he's good
God bless man God bless yeah but then you know and that's when and that's when she kind of turned
around right like when you start to when you stop thinking in terms of I and start having to think
in terms of we that shit changes a lot of you know a lot of things like a lot I've heard that when
people first have a child like you know first time someone maybe passes away at the close to
things like that like um but her that was that was the that was the thing where it was like damn
like there's there's again there's more to decisions there's more to feeling bad for yourself there's
more than to you know I'm saying like trying to just like get fast money or trying to just like
put your head down and like try to just you know you know just grind it out and be in the cut yeah
so I mean you know marriage changes things kids change things every life changes bro
but the difference was the first time we started talking serious and I said you'll listen and I
said if we're getting serious I gotta tell you right now like and I'm 18 I'm 18 years old and I'm like
I'm gonna once I graduate college I'm going to be a professional wrestler I was like are you
cool with that because I'm not trying to see you in four years and then you're like what's good with
this wrestling thing like because yeah it's fucking out because I'm not trying to catch feelings for
you to fuck up this right so you tell me right now and I said it's in 2013 and she said do it
I said I was like she doesn't she's a rider she's a rider but I tell everybody that if anyone's
talking to a girl and they're serious about wrestling I said how serious are you about
wrestling because pussy changes things to part of my life you understand but it does it does
it does I got a I got a bunch of friends out here that are on the independence and
and they they're struggling with their girls because their girls are like yo like what's up
with this attention you're getting or you don't have saying like you you around all these other
wrestling females and it's like you gotta understand this is why I told you what I told you from the
jump and obviously like you said she knew everything is perfect matcha what you got because I've been
hogging these questions I feel you brother look I'm gonna keep you short and straight brother I'm so
amazed to have this opportunity to talk to you about it it's been amazing mixing it up
we've been shooting your off for a damn near an hour but what do you what is important for you to
tell somebody who's listening and on this going forward like what do you want to share with somebody
no matter who it is or for what purpose I mean you talk about social work and change in the
world like what is what message do you want to get out that you think is important the floor is yours
embrace yourself that's a big thing man where we live in a world of hashtags we live in a world of
something's cool right now and that's not something's cool listening to it and it's not you know we
live in a world of influence and we forget that we can be our own you know I'm saying so that's
probably the big you know I'm saying like I mean I mean we live by we die by man say and embrace
yourself like we're not we're not we're not trying to be nothing that we're not and I'm saying like
we want you know I preach positivity and growth for you know for everybody and education about it too
that is that is the only way is that if people are willing to listen and that's where we got to combat
this fast-acting hashtag movement topic changing rapidly type shit no one gives a f*** about ALS
right now who's because no one's done some sh** on their head you know I'm saying like it's we live in
moments yeah you know I'm saying like which is a beautiful thing but we got to remember that
moments are moments but they're in they're spaced out there's a long string there in between those
moments that needs to have action in between so you know stop you know we need to have more
more empathy and start thinking in terms of we like you're saying and it's easier said than done
yeah I mean all right yeah brother but if you're gonna just come back you might and you can't so
hey look uh when you come through Texas let me know I'll make that drive like I said I'll drop it
come on through um and let's not stunt like they don't be in Orlando so once the live taping has
come back and everything else my ass lives like 30 minutes from Orlando now so I'll definitely be up
in there um I'm sure I attend Philadelphia man MLW coming back so it's it's super super great man
it's what one of the guys we podcast he was gonna go out there and it's already sold out from his
tickets or whatever he was saying crazy so I was like and we decided to use the vice tv you know
I'm saying like it's just again elevation and good leadership promotes even better workers you
know I'm saying so we have we have the staff doing what they're supposed to be doing taking care as
soon as as soon as I texted them that I was hurt first thing it says is don't worry about anything
get better that's crazy that's what's up man um you know I'm saying I'm nobody in the grand scheme
you know I'm saying like I came in with no history I've had 55 matches I write them down I've had 55
matches in my life that's stupid that's a that's a that's a season for some people my life 55
because I know it's I know it's who you've thought not that how many it's who you thought I'm saying
I'm exactly saying I'm not bumping for nobody but at the same time like there's a lot that I that I
missed a lot that I didn't get to show in because again paying your dues I believe subjective a lot
of people think it's more I think it's subjective you know building rings being a bitch getting
caught picking up I don't I don't do that you know I did that when I was a young I'm sorry I
I did that not in wrestling you know I'm saying I was yeah I did errands when I was young you know
when I was you know so like I don't do that anymore but again that's again it's subjective of how
you're gonna gauge respect and and and engage how you're gonna carry yourself are you gonna do it
disrespectfully or you need to do it respectfully of yourself and your peers and things like that
so I make sure that there's that there's a distinct difference of levels and how um and how I treat
you know my co-workers you know the business and how I and how I expect to be treated you know in
return and um again and then running into people like you where it's like we're complete strangers
and had an out long conversation without a stumble or stutter because it was just real connecting
and that's what I want it's not that hard to to connect you know it's meant to happen when you
when you're in this world you're gonna find the people that are gonna gravitate towards your likeness
and it's just it's just great and I have asked you guys a question how was your day before we even
end thanks man amazing dude I'm I'm happy I'm fortunate I'm blessed um it's been a rough year
but like like you said things are turning around I'm happy about that my family's happy my family's
healthy that's all I can ask and I wish I could say great but if I move all these boxes means
I'm moving this week so I've been nothing I've been packing all week so it's been a little hectic
yeah listen to him he's moving on up he's good yeah yeah like you guys ever do live shows before
this before COVID huh live shows yeah in person shows oh yeah oh yeah like I used to do impact
all the time yeah right okay that's right yeah yeah and it's right over here and then uh yeah
mlw I was trying to get to but it was always like sold out but I also work in universal so
my schedule wasn't allowing me to jump over but uh and I have one of my buddies refs now in mlw
his name is Rodney he's one of the refs there so I was like bro as soon as you get any detail of
when they're back I keep it on the low low and I'm like let me know so I'm up in there but uh
when you guys come back to Orlando yo I'm up in there my brother real talk yeah yeah if I catch
word I'll let you know man that's good that's big and please please let the Iranian super soldier
know that we would love to talk to him too because that man is a ghost on social media
holy smokes I'm kind of jealous I thought it was hard I thought I was a ghost enough having two names
but he's doing good so listen for my entire crew everybody was super hyped I'm still super hyped
about this uh is www.urbanwrestlingnetwork.com for myself everybody from this young king right here
mr. Kwan we're out of here deuces appreciate you guys thank you man