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Yo, this is the lucha thug the one-man lucha gang L Ray Gordo himself the king fat boy Papa
Westcoe and y'all rocking with the urban wrestling network
What's really good ladies and gentlemen? It's the og board equal Dondara the talk of New York chef
I'm here with evil. Oh, say evil. Oh, say how are you before we get to the king real quick?
Yo, man, I am here. There is some gentlemen your midnight desire your Puerto Rican
Quintessential Puerto Rican muffin is here as always gotta show some love. I got my tag team partner here evil
Evil or pretty seer. We're ready to go, baby. Yeah, we got we got a big one today chef
I even got my I got I went and got my my head my do back. I got my hat
I gotta be like you today, baby. I'm representing today homie. Listen. We're stupid excited
We got King fat boy Papa Westcoe. What's good, baby?
Man, what's happening? What's going on with y'all, man? I'm chilling. I'm chilling. We were talking before this and
I love the shirt like I'm an artist. I draw I seen it and I'm gonna first off
I know you said that right now you're rocking the prototype
Yeah, I'll put this down just just a little bit see y'all can see this but like this like a prototype
For like the shirt King fat boy Papa Westcoe, you know, it's kind of
Repping for the people repping for the fat boys, you know, I'm saying but um, yes
Yeah, like a prototype just to see how the fabric was see how the print was see if it was gonna fall off or whatnot
But um, you know, I definitely don't want to put out shoddy products. So
December somewhere around there. I'll probably have like a porous link to these shop open. I'll probably be doing little shots
In the DMs, you know, I mean doing shipping that way. I don't know. We'll see but I'm gonna get some merch out
Yeah, for sure. Give me a little early Christmas gift for my love how that Puerto Rican flag
That Puerto Rican flag is draped over real nice. It's a tough look. It's a tough look right on right on
So what's up y'all? What's going on? What's good? So take it out
Chilling baby now. Everybody always wants to ask the most annoying question. Unfortunately, we got to ask this
Don't ask it. Don't like ask what was it that?
I got to ask it. I got to ask it is what?
What
Hold on so we what we have a little we have a little network problems. What you wanted? You wanted to ask me
There we go
How I got in the wrestling or so?
Yeah, man, unfortunately, that's the that's the annoying question, but everybody's got to know it's good
It's actually it's a different story, you know
What I did was a lot different
I mean people to tell you all the time I've been trying to wrestle for a long time and I couldn't wait to get out of
High school and do this and and what not you know, my story is similar to
Everyone else's in in that
When I was younger, I wanted to wrestle. I wanted to do the wrestling thing
I was getting ready to get out of high school. I was gonna go find a school
I was gonna do the whole thing just a whole shebang just like everybody else, but you know life gets in the way, you know, I had to
You know, I had to do something else for a little bit
We won't get into too much of that, but I got into some trouble, you know
I started doing things a little too fast and I had to pay for it. So
After that, you know life gets in the way, you know, you you know
I got me a wife and I had kids and life just started happening so fast so young
You know, I mean at it just kind of slipped me so fast forward to you know, maybe like, you know, six seven years ago
I don't know how long we saw the blur, but you know, I was with my kids man
And you know, I had my kids young so they're a little older and we was talking about
The future for them, you know, and what it really means, you know
I always talk about my I always talk with my kids about generational wealth and how each family generation needs to build from the last in order to make sure that
you and your kids and your grandkids are all better than
The previous right so we always talk about that and I always tell them
Anything you want to do in life you put your mind to it. You can do it and
One day they was just on me about it, you know making fun of me, you know cracking jokes
Yeah, whatever whatever dad whatever I said, look, I'll show you I'll show you that you could do anything
You put your mind to you could do anything you put your mind to it. You could you could rock with it for sure
And they said okay
Bad I said, all right, so I started thinking what what would be the one thing that I haven't done
that I've always wanted to do that I could show them that
You can do it if you put your mind to it and I was like and it's got to be one of the most far-fetched things ever
So you know like you know, you got pro wrestling you got baseball basketball football
Music acting all them jobs are achievable, but they're kind of like far fetch things right for some people
You know feel me so I said yo pro wrestling is one thing I've always wanted to do so I
found a school I
Got trained I got started and
And now I'm showing them I mean based on what I'm doing right now and the things that I'm doing
You know, I'm I'm getting a slow build, you know, and I'm starting to get more out there
They're starting to see that yo you you can do just about anything you want in life if you put your mind to it, you know
and
You know, that's really how I got in the wrestling row, you know in a nutshell
Sorry for the ramble, but you know
That's what's up, right? Yeah, so my for evil. Oh, yeah, I just want to ask what borough you from
For me. Yes, sir
Actually, you know what people think that I'm a New York dude like my family is from the East Coast and my family is from Puerto Rico
I was born out in California man. Get out. Yeah
Yo, you speaking you sound just like me and I'm from Queens. That's always like
It's up bringing, you know, I mean, I you know, I mean
But I all I heard from my family is I mean, I don't even think I talk like anything, you know
I think
You know, I talk just like my my mother
You know, my cousins are my you know, everybody that I've been around all my life. So it's so you out there surfing
I don't know
Me in the ocean don't mix
Look at it. I won't get in that. I won't get in that piece. No, you know
Oh, yeah, I know
Swim out flow. No, we get we get flooded. I'm straight
I don't know about I don't know about saving people. That's why I talk like, you know
We talk about kids that had a swim too so they can say this so
Now you mentioned you have kids and you marry right now. Yeah, man. Yeah
Are any of your kids seeing what you're doing now and they're saying, you know something dad is doing this
I want to follow in his footsteps
So yes and no
No, none of them want to wrestle, you know, you know, my wife and my kids, they really don't even like wrestling
You know, I mean, so when I do it, I do it. They support it because I'm doing it, but you know, they
They don't really follow it too much
But they are doing they are following in the footsteps in the way that I want them to which is what I go back to before
If you put your mind to something you can achieve anything
So honestly, I'm proud to say that these cats they they saw what I'm doing and they saw how I moved
And they saw how I'm moving and how I'm building and they're starting to figure out what they want to do
And they're gonna go ahead and try to achieve that man
I had kids I had kids young bro like my daughter is 19 right
So she's going to college right now trying to get her her career going and then my son is just breaking out of high school
He's a senior this year. So he about to I mean, it's crazy because
The thing was was had started, you know, he was he was about ready to go to college for like football for baseball
But it's it's still it's still a thing but you know, it's I don't even know how it's gonna work now in the current situation
We in but he's still doing it, you know, so yeah, they following in my footsteps in that respect
You know, they know now that they could do anything they want they put their minds to it
So now what's up with the last part of it is Esco is that Pablo Esco boy you took Papa West go kind of thing or
So Papa was a family name. Okay that I adopted and Esco
You know, I don't I don't know man. I just they were like, yo, you need a last name and I was going to use my my last name
But it was like, yo, that don't that don't really that don't really fit. So I was just kind of thinking about it and I was like, man
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go with Esco, you know, you do here, you know, you hear from the East Coast you like Willie Esco now
Willie Esco
You know stuff like that. So it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna use that man there ain't no I wish there was some grandiose story
Some private dosh story that I could just be like, yeah, man, I did this that the other this is what Esco is but it's not
It's not even like that bro. I kind of just did this shit right here like just
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with that name it works with Papa. You know saying so
So
What you got?
Don't say yeah, I was gonna say man. I
Watch wrestling. I'm like I watch any wrestling. I don't care what language it is. It could be to squirrel wrestling
I'm watching it what I was watching night the United Wrestling Network
And I saw you come out with you know with you in um, and a boy Danny
Like that we interviewed last week
And you know, he's not talking first and then he goes, you know, papa watch what you gonna tell him and you came out with this deep
Voice man. I got scared for a second when you when you started coming up. I said this dude's a battle rapper
He's gonna fight about it. I hear in a minute man
Yeah, I want to know like where did you started from the beginning to get to which you are now?
wrestling for United Wrestling Network
So when I got started man, um, I got started with a training academy called pro wrestling revolution training Academy
It's in the Bay Area out here in California
And you know, it's a lucha company. So they train lucha. So man training lucha. I would say this man
I've seen American style training training facilities and
If anybody's gonna get into professional wrestling
Try to find a lucha based training Academy. They're gonna put you through the ringer man. That's gonna be real like rugged real like grimy
You know, we're gonna try to take the wind from you type of stuff and that's really what you need man
You need to have wind in order to get through these matches
Otherwise, you just can be sucking wind on the floor. You ain't gonna be able to make it
So I got started with that lucha training company training Academy and they also have a company
So I started a pro wrestling revolution, which is the promotion. That's where I debuted and they are one
Probably two
Promotions in the Bay Area that are like the biggest in terms of of
like fan base and and and you know stuff like that
So it's funny man. Most cats will tell you that they debuted in this rinky ding high school gym with with
20 30 people, you know, I mean but me my debut was in front of like almost a thousand people man, you know and and
It was on fight TV
You know during my training, you know, they're going through training of not only like professional wrestling in the ring
But like etiquette backstage and how to work cameras, you know, hard cam
Roman cameras, you know stuff like that. So like I I had that
instilled in me to to from the gate, you know, so
Pro wrestling revolution is where I started
And then I kind of just went with them until I got a call from all pro wrestling
Which is the the other of the two biggest promotions in the Bay Area
And just being with them two promotions
I got to I got to see and meet a lot of different people, you know, so
Just networking working my ass off, you know getting the opportunity to be in a ring with guys like MVP and
Chavo Guerrero
El Tejano
Cycle clown Skyday
You know just all kinds of like people that are just on like on a grand scale
You know one person talks to the next and before you know it
Dave Marquez called and was like, yo you want to come do this championship wrestling from Hollywood thing?
I got this
idea and I was like all right, so
I went down there
He introduced me to Danny because I I didn't I didn't know Danny up until that point. I knew of him, but I didn't know him
and then
I mean the rest is really history man. We we we started rocking together and and you see what's going on with prime time lives, so
You know, I see Dave Marquez. They keeps coming up everywhere, man. Yeah, man
I was about to say like we keep hearing Dave Marquez come up and I'm like damn this guy's like a
He's like a wrestling genius or something
Man, he's big out here, bro. He's Puerto Rican too, man. He's big out here. You know, I mean he
knows a lot about the business. He knows a lot about
The the production and and and all the aspects that go into like building like a tv program and everything man
I can't knows a lot just
You know, I don't really I don't really deal with him too much. You know in terms of like talking with him
It's like hi. Hello. How you doing type of thing when it gets down to business. I do my thing. He does his but just watching him
Yeah, man, I can't that cat has a wealth of knowledge, man, you know
Definitely definitely worth
Sitting under his learning tree, you know, I mean because he's got a lot to offer
And they mark his
That's what's up. So
When you when you're going through all this
And like you said, you do know the stories of people doing the rinky-dink high school things and seeing that
That's got to be such a crazy
Thought process like once you're done with your match and you're like damn. This was like a thousand people like
What was that that that debut where you come off and you're on fight tv?
That's that's where people who you know, they wish they could be on fight tv
And you're talking years in you know what I mean?
Like we got two guys who are on our podcast and I think together they've been wrestling like
Combined like four or five years and none of them have even touched anything like that
For your debut when you come out of that, that's got to be like what was your your feeling coming out of your debut?
Like you I just did this
Yo
I mean, I'm I would I would be lying to you if I didn't say it was nerve-wracking
You know what I mean?
Because it was like live like we was
Yeah, he was like
Streaming so any met there was no, you know, oh you messed up. Let's do it again type of thing. It was like yo record and go
you know and
I take I take that I take that mentality that record and go I live by that mantra because it's like you got to be ready for anything
So I've always been like that, you know, so it was a little bit easier for me to deal with
You know in terms of like going out there and you know
Just doing my thing for you know, but it was nerve-wracking man because there was a lot of elements
I mean shit, you know, there's a lot of people you don't know how they're gonna receive you didn't nobody know who I was
You know, I mean so I didn't they didn't know how how how how I was gonna react, you know and row
I mean you got a lot of guys that are
Like wrestling
And they're they're fat, you know, let's let's just call let's just call it spade of space
But you know I'm saying but but ain't nobody
doing
What I do like ain't nobody saying yo, I'm the king fat boy
They might be fat boys in this joint
But I'm the king of them and they're gonna follow my lead and we're gonna carve our own path
We're gonna we cut from a different claw type of thing and and and I didn't know how that was gonna be received because you know cast they want to
They want to see the big muscle bound do
I'm in the gym 1416 hours a day. I got muscles popping all over the place. I can throw people up in the air like a pizza pie
You know, you've got these these daredevil dudes that are just doing all kinds of feats of of just acrobatic, you know magic and they're flipping and
All this stuff and then you got these guys that are trying to tie you with knots technical wizards and whatever
Me I'm going out there as this just straight up dude from the block
They're like, hey, I'm gonna get the dude out of the way. I'm gonna get the dude out of the way
I'm going out there as this just straight up dude from the block that don't like nobody don't want to be bothered nobody buy nobody
But if we ain't getting a ring one things for sure. I'ma punch you in the mouth
I'ma kick you in the face
I'ma choke you. I'ma maul you
I'm not gonna put you in an arm wringer. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna put you in an arm bar
I'ma take a steel pipe
You know and hit and hit you with that bar in our arm. You know, I mean, it's not it's a different MO
So I didn't know how they was gonna
I didn't know how they was gonna react to that. So all those elements. It's nerve-wracking. I went out there
Thousand people I just focused on what I was there to do
I focused on what how what I wanted to do for me and how I wanted to get over and
You know, by the grace of God
They they ate it up, you know, and they just kept eating it up every single time
so it's the one thing that I I keep trying to tell people was like
Well, we all that that street element it's it's far in between in this industry like
You know, you have certain guys that do it and then it kind of disappears
So you have your time with it
But a lot of guys don't embrace that so when people see it and it doesn't feel like a like a like a gimmick
People love that shit. So your aggressiveness. I think it's fire
Like I was watching a bunch of your matches today on youtube and I was like damn this guy
He goes he you're like high octane, but like that that uh, like you said a moeller kind of like an offensive lineman
When you're a dog like you had that very aggressive style and I was like man, how fucks with this guy?
This guy reminds me of the big homie on the block where shit's gonna pop off and he's the first one running up right to square up
thing is bro
so
You know how you know how cats will tell you like in wrestling they'll tell you oh, yeah
You know if you want to be if you want to get over or whatever you want to call it, you know
You got to be yourself
Just like cranked up to a thousand, you know, like I heard like Steve Austin say that I heard
You know triple triple H say that I heard a bunch of different dudes that are on like a big mega star level
And that I took that to heart, you know
So, you know, my real name isn't popo esco, you know, that's that's that's my wrestling name
Yeah, but popo esco is me, you know, I mean I it may not be it may not be me now
But there was a point in time, you know, it don't matter if it's new york or if it's california block
It's a block exactly. I mean a corner boy is a corner boy stick up kid is a stick up kid
You know, I mean it doesn't matter where you live. There's people that are like that everywhere
So I grew up, you know, I didn't have no dad, you know, I didn't know what that element was
You know, I had a mom who worked three jobs
She would she would go work the three jobs and then she would come home and she was asleep, you know
My sisters who are all older than me. They was out the house before I even you know became a teenager
So all I had right now honestly was really
Yeah, I would go out I would go out in the in the carports and in the parking lots of the of the
Of the grimy, you know apartment complexes that I was living in and you know, I would watch I was I would watch the
The the the old the og's the the young knuckleheads that were still older older than me
You know the pimps and and then the players I watched I watched all them
You know and I grew up with all them and I'm not proud to say it
But I mean I I functioned a certain way, you know, so that's like man. That's life, but you mean
Yeah, and and my point is is you know people talk about like my aggression and the way I come off and and the believability and whatever
I'm not I don't feel like I'm doing anything fake, you know, I mean, I don't feel like I'm my aggression is
I mean my kids I bring my kids in right now and I'll
I'll have them tell you how aggressive I can get at times even when I'm talking in a happy sense
It doesn't matter if I'm happy sad
fearful whatever angry
my my
My passion and what I'm saying at the time. I'm saying it is is always going to be there and it's never going to change
So, um, I appreciate what you're saying, but it's like I don't know any other way
You know, I mean, I this is me. This is me
Whether it's in front of that camera wrestling or at the house talking with somebody, you know personally, it's I'm the same dude
See that that's what I was telling one of the guys and I was like, yo
This guy I'm telling you I was telling the guy Hannibal Wolf. I was like, yo, this guy kicking him
Fat boy popo. I was like, yo, this guy doesn't seem like a gimmick to me
I was like everything I keep looking at it's way too natural
You know what I mean? Like and if if if you're from any kind of
Urban environment you you you understand what's real you see it and you know, what's not forced
And I was like, yo this dude I swear to god
I feel like he was one of my homies from the block like I don't know why and you know
I tell people now, you know, I'm 41. I'm you know, I'm 20 twice where people try to count you out
I got two kids one of them sitting right here because he wanted he wants to hit the interview. So
It's like people don't understand and when I see people like you it
It inspires me even at my age because I'm like damn man. Like we're making it, you know, it shows
The youth that you don't got to be out there doing that because you could be him
You know to be like you the next, you know, fat boy popo. Let's go. You could be the king
Uh, my fault my fault. Even though they my fault. I snatched that one
You think man, you were getting passionate about the streets. Yeah, you know
We're always passionate about the streets, bro
It's so hard like when we do these most of the time, uh, people aren't from that
You know what I mean? Like they're from good neighborhoods. They go to schools and stuff
So when I get to interview someone like you it's like I finally could be me
You know, I could talk like this and it's all good where if we do somebody else
I got to be like so how you doing? How's your day?
You know, like you got to kind of tone it down and I don't have to tone it down with you
Which is super dope for me. But like I said my fault
Okay, but I wanted to have mr. S go over here, man
I know I know we had all of us has plans
before the covid hit
I called the plague
When when that hit
Did you plans? I mean, did you have already plans made up before it hit and when it did hit?
Did it change for the better or did you change or you stuck the same way the whole the whole way through?
So I'm gonna say this it
It changed
I don't I don't want to say it changed for the better
But it helped me get to one of one of the major goals that I had
You know before the pandemic hit. I was getting ready to
I was ready. I was getting ready to invade your neck of the woods
I was I was getting ready to go out to the east coast and start working all throughout that area
I was gonna flood that area with poppa west go broke
I was gonna go down to florida and flood that area with poppa west go broke
You know, I'm saying I was trying to get out there and get my name out there
Ultimate goal was trying to get you know a chance or at least a look by uh, you know one of these one of these feds
You know like r o h m l w
Impact, you know I'm saying maybe nxt. Who knows, you know nwa now
Everything that Dave marquez is doing
Had already been on my radar had already been on my radar for a while and I wanted that you know
I mean, but I didn't want to go begging that's one of the thing about me
I I didn't I didn't I didn't work a lot of places
You know, I can probably count on my hand the amount of places that I've worked as far as promotions go
And it's because I'm not out there trying to actively seek
Work, I'm not trying to you know, I'm not being like yo, please book me on this, you know
By the grace of god everybody's come to me and said yo
Me you know because of how I'm doing I feel like it's more important for me to get
Looked at and get brought in versus me
You know just trying to you know, I don't know ask for a plate, you know, I'm saying I don't know how else to say it
so
um
The pandemic hit
And I was just kind of floating, you know, just just being at home with my family making sure they're okay and whatever and then
You know marquez hit me up and was like yo
um
You know come work just like I said before and I was like man, this is what I've been waiting for
Hell, yeah, I got excited, you know, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm yeah, I'm gonna do this, you know
I went out there and and what you see is is what's happening now. So I mean ultimately
Just to you know bring it all back to what you had originally asked
I mean, it's like it's like six one way half a dozen the other bro. It's like
Yeah, I did miss a lot of opportunities to you know flood other areas and preach the gospel of the king fat boy
You know even much more
But I mean it's equally in my opinion
um
A huge benefit for me to be on tv
You know every week
I mean champions wrestling from hollywood
And champions are wrestling in general
You know, it's it's got me being seen, you know by by a lot of people on youtube
But not only that it's it's syndicated television in the bay area
in in southern california and texas and in louisiana in in in in uh
florida in tennessee, you know
I'm getting a whole new fan base based on this opportunity and then united wrestling networks prime time live every tuesday
On fight
That's even up in the ante that that much more. So yeah, like I said, man, you know six one way half a dozen half a dozen the other brother
It's
You know, yeah, I missed out on a lot of opportunities before the pandemic hit, you know once the pandemic hit but
Um, I got blessed with another one in in my opinion equal, you know, or maybe even more of an opportunity. So
See I feel like I'm rambling man
Nah, nah, nah the door you giving gems out here bro. Like you put out there. Yeah, yeah
So I'm we're obviously big impact guys. I love impact. He loves impact. I love them
I think that I would love to see you on impact because I do think impacts rise
It's coming back up to where it was trying to be before and I think that there's so many opportunities
No one there's no one like you right now on tv. Like I'm gonna tell you that right now
I don't give a shit what anyone says. There's nobody right now. That's like you on tv and you will stand out if if you get that
Opportunity you kill it. You know what I'm saying like and then I do have this other thing where I was talking with evil
Olte and I was like damn man if lax, which is pride and powerful went away
From the inner circle. I said damn. I would love to see king papo and danie lomelike
Roll with them and aew and do that bodega thing there because you know all Puerto Ricans and everything
I was like, this would be like a whole new like kind of latino world daughter
Like we see it. Wcw wcw back in the days
I was like these guys would kill it
But I just want to see you focused on a major platform because you're killing it right now people are seeing you
I got people that are like I've told people. Yo, we're gonna talk to that, you know
Uh, popo escrow and they're like, oh, I seen that guy on tv. I'm like, yes, son is you know, he's the man
so
If if they give you that opportunity, there's no way that you don't shine
You know what I'm saying like it's so different than everything else
And I think that there's nobody especially an impact an mlw
I do my homework to see who's doing what and like I'm not trying to fantasy book
But I think those would be the two places that you just take off and just steamroll people
Man, I would love I would love the opportunity to
Um to go do stuff like that over in those areas. Um, you know, I know folks that you know, I've been around and I know folks that are in those areas
Like jacob pho too. I know I know him very well. That's my boy. You know, I mean and he's out there doing this thing for mlw
as their world champion
Um, Reno stum, you know, uh adam thornstone. Dave
Uh, less of the legend them cats man. They're doing it an impact. I know them cats
I mean, I feel like there's definitely opportunities. I just hope that the right time will come, you know, until then I'm just gonna lay
Uh lay low just kind of be patient, you know and wait for them to call. But yeah, man
Go to talking on that. Um that uh problem powerful thing
That not since like savi ovega and los los boricuas
What equals has has there ever been
a faction that was just like Puerto Rican dudes, you know, I mean and this this this is the this is the intent
of the bodega
I I've
I've been billed from the bodega since the beginning since day one since the first time they ever said
You know coming down to our Wayne 300 and whatever pounds king fat boy papa west coast they I was been billed from the bodega
I really feel like that's a staple for our people because you can really get anything you need from there
You know, I mean that is that is it's a church
In in my opinion if I'm wrong you tell me I'm wrong, but I don't know. It's a church
Every bodega in America is a church for our people. So I figured we need to push that I'll push that narrative, you know
and you know, it's a
Did you give you get you the fucking chopped cheese sandwich or whatever, you know, I'm like every road
something I've been wanting to do for a while and to be able to bring that to life with Danny is definitely a
and you never know who's gonna, you know, you never know who's gonna join up next man
And you know
the
time to bring the Puerto Rican's out there right now with affection.
And that's what I love to see because I'm seeing
more Puerto Rican's coming up. Yeah, a lot of
and I've seen yesterday that MFW now signed a partnership
with IWA from Puerto Rico. So now they're going to be bringing
Puerto Rican time up to MFW and MFW
to Puerto Rico. So that might be an opening right there to get more
Puerto Rican's from the island to come up.
And open that door and get the floodgate going man.
Because I remember last week when we did the
Ending with Greenlight, I tagged you on Twitter
with the bodega that won some from the bodega from SkyZoo.
And I was like, you know, like you mentioned we all grew up on the
bodega. We all know what the bodega is. We spend hours
at the bodega hanging in the corner. Yeah.
Shilling hours and hours away. Now I'm not
going to lie to you. I want to see a female part of this faction.
I don't know what Puerto Rican females are out there, but I want to see a Puerto
Rican chick that goes down with the bodega. That's just my personal
thing. And here's the thing, like I got into
a little bit of a debate with somebody. I won't say who, but a little bit of a
debate with somebody about this. Everybody been saying that.
You need a female. I was like, okay, yeah, it's coming. It's coming. We just got to make sure it's
the right one. Exactly. And they're like, oh well, you know, this is
wrestling, right? Rocky Romero is a Puerto Rican
dude, but he's out there saying he's from Cuba. You know what I'm saying? So it could be
just about anybody. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is different.
If we're going to do this bodega thing and we're going to push for the Puerto
Rican, just got to be a Puerto Rican woman. So I
don't know who that would be.
I don't know. I mean, Eva Lise is probably one
that we can have. I would love to have her in the squad.
What's the girl from Impact?
Tasha Steele. That's another one.
You know what I mean? So they're definitely out there, but it's really
thin though. It's thin.
Everything's got to connect, bro.
I know two other Puerto Rican chicks. Gavi or Tia from Feli
and Carisa Rivera. She's also from Feli.
I would love to find
like a queen fat girl.
Like a big, just rough, rugged.
Like a big, just rough, rugged style of female that can get in there
and just wreck shot. You know what I mean?
It's kind of like Lady of Rage kind of thing.
I don't know. Something like that.
Something like that. Just somebody that's going to knock heads and just get in there
and cause a ruckus.
You know what I mean?
Maybe that goes out with that gore that can.
Here, here, here, here's some gore that's missing your system.
Here's some fiber for your life.
Listen, this would be my last question because I know everybody's busy.
What's your next thing? What's the...
I need this. Who's the next challenge? Who's the person you want next?
Who's the next challenge? Who is it?
Right now I'm just focused on this
bull digger movement. Me and Danny, we gunning
for the United Wrestling Network Tag Team titles right now.
That's what we're looking for.
If we can get our hands on that, that'll be the first.
Obviously, we're affiliated with the NWA.
That's really what I grew up on. That was my favorite thing.
The enforcer, Arne Anderson, was my all-time and is my all-time favorite wrestler.
So just to be a part of the NWA is something.
Who's that? Eli Drake and James Storm.
They have the NWA Tag Team titles, so we're going to be gunning for them.
Honestly, man, look, the goal for me right now, those United
Wrestling Network Tag Team titles, we get those, man. I'm going to start popping my gums
at every single tag team champion at every single
promotion. We can go to you or you can come to us.
We're going to be the team to beat. I want to make
sure that we bring a lot of fire to
those tag belts. That's the first goal.
NWA is the next goal.
Singles run maybe, maybe not. I'm having fun teaming
with Danny and building this Bodega faction.
We'll see what happens, man. Sky's the limit, bro.
I'll say this though for everybody that's watching, man. If you are Puerto Rican,
you will understand this. Like the Mexican dudes
that talk about Aztecs and everything like that, man.
We got the blood of thousands
of fallen Taíno warriors in our system.
It's time for us to aggressively
have people see what that's about.
It's going to be fun, just keeping the ball rolling.
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
Hold up, son. When this is over, I need you to
go back and take that little part there where you set up all those Taíno's.
Just clip that all by yourself.
I'll say everywhere. I want people to hear that.
I'll do that. But before you say it, I got you
my brother. Before you say that, I know that you also said something to
Nick Aldis that that belt was looking interesting.
I hit up Nick Aldis like, yo, Nick, don't be shook.
I got blocked by Nick for saying he was shook of you. So I was like, wow, that was pretty
soft. That Nick Aldis blocked me for saying that my man's going to run through
you. I just thought that was funny because I was like, you know, just messing with Nick Aldis.
He felt a certain way. He got scared. He got shook. Hey, look, man, no,
he didn't respond to me. So he didn't address me.
But any of them single, like we talking singles right now, any of them dudes
from the NWA can get it. The Pope just won the television title. He can get it.
Trevor Murdoch just won the national title. He can get it. Nick Aldis
just, he's got the 10 pounds of gold. He can get it. I mean, dude,
I'm so, I'm so ready right now. You know what I mean?
I truly feel that I could bang with any of them dudes in the ring.
No question. In front of the camera and especially on a microphone.
I don't have a problem with saying that my promo skills
is on par with anybody's. And if you give me an inch,
I'm going to kill you with the promo, bro. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who it is.
I'll bang with anybody as far as that, you know,
in front of the camera recording, go thing goes, man.
You know, all it takes is a red light, bro. Give me that red light. That's record.
I'm a go. So, you know,
Hey, tell me, sir, let me ask you one more question here.
Now you said you had two kids, 19, a daughter and a son.
Not for you. Any upcoming
roster that's seeing this that once again to the business and what
you've been through. Why can you tell them if they want to
follow in the same footsteps?
I mean, just look.
You know what you want to do in life. You know what you want to do.
Don't say that you don't know. Don't shrug your shoulders.
Don't, you know, just try to play dumb. You have an absolute idea of what
you want to do in life. No matter how far fetched it is.
If you want to do it, write it down. Write it down in the middle of a piece of paper.
Cluster it. If you don't know what a cluster is, you write something down.
You put a little circle around it. You got branches going from that root.
How do I get there? Figure out how you're going to get there and
put the work in. Everybody want to be famous? Nobody want to put the work in.
But once you put the work in, everything's going to fall into place.
Get you a good training academy and go and really research it.
You know, you got guys that are running some academies. You know, I don't mean to be talking like this
because I don't like to talk. I don't like to diss nobody or none like that. That's not my M.O.
But honestly, there's some training academies out there
where dudes are training other dudes the wrong way. You know, you're going to get hurt like that.
Do your research. Find you a good school.
Find you a school where somebody who is training you has a lot of
experience, a lot of worth in the business, and then from there, just
be a sponge. Soak everything in class.
And when you're outside of class, soak everything in by watching all kinds of
wrestling. A lot of guys will tell you that
you know, oh, I want to be like such and such or I want to be like such and such. You got to be real with yourself.
You know, I'm not no big 301
pound burly dude trying to be like Ricochet and trying
to be like Arne Anderson. No, my dudes of study was
you know, Takeshi Morsima,
Gary Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, one man gang,
you know, like those type of dudes that are just like bigger dudes and you got
it. You got to you got to study the right way for your own personal game.
And then just keep just keep working, man.
Don't don't be complacent. Get on social media. I mean, social media
is like on fire right now when it comes to us. Ain't nobody was
anybody ain't nobody from your way is going to know who I am
if there was no Instagram or Twitter or
whatever. I'd have to actually go out there to get my name out there.
So take advantage of social media.
Set up a don't try not to get your personal life and your
wrestling life meshed. Get you
social media specific to pro wrestling and
market yourself, man. Do promos, get promos out there.
Do like little vignettes. You got iPhone.
You got iMovie on your iPhone or whatever movie suite on
your Android. Figure out how to use that and then make little
vignettes of yourself. There's a ton of ways for you to get out there, man. You just got to
put the work in to figure out what that is and then don't stop until you get what you want.
I mean, that's really all I got to say about that.
The funny thing is before the pandemic, me and Chef didn't know how to do half of the stuff that we're doing now.
We learned to the whole pandemic.
You said just going there and going on YouTube and watching all these videos.
And my man chef knows how to do more than I do.
And I'm just like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do it by hand. Like yourself out, bro. I'm just going to sit back here and just keep eating my cookies.
So listen, we chopped it up. We
definitely chewed his ear off a way too long.
Hopefully we didn't get in the way of you having to do whatever you had to do for the rest of the day.
I just want to say thank you. First off, let me
salute you for real because like I said before, you inspire me
at this point. I'm still like, keep doing your thing.
I appreciate that. If you can, please hit it with all your social
media so they know where to find you. I'm also going to put it in the links and everything else.
But I think they can follow you in your spot. Yeah, man.
So on social media, you can follow me on
Facebook. That's Papa Westco. You can follow me on Instagram.
That's Papa Westco. You can follow me on Twitter.
Papa underscore esco. My kids told me
to do the Snapchat thing. So I'm going to try to figure out the
Snapchat thing and do that's Papa Westco.
And then I just want to shout out. I always do this. So I want to shout out
Pro Wrestling Train Pro Wrestling Revolution Training Academy
in San Jose, California. If I hadn't gotten to them
and they didn't train me up the correct way, I wouldn't be
what I am right now. You know, Gabe Ramirez, Brown bomber,
Robert Thompson, a lot of my other trainers, Vinny Missaro,
Sky Day, Lady Apache. There's so many of them.
Pro Wrestling Revolution,
Pro Wrestling Revolution, the promotion, you know, without them getting me started,
I definitely wouldn't be what I am right now. So I definitely give
a shout out to them. And then they also got Lucha
Lucha-masks.com. Go there.
They have a bunch of face covers from officially licensed Lucha Doors
like Blue Demon, El Santo, you know, guys like that.
Those face covers are really cool.
They're really comfortable. And you know, they're going to help
you stay safe with the whole pandemic.
So I got this.
Go ahead, brother. You chop through.
No, go ahead. Oh, no. What I was going to say is, you know,
once again, we appreciate you for everything. Evil Lonesay, do me a favor. Take us out of here
so we can get up out of here and everybody go do what they got to do because I'm hungry
for the flower. Amen. Thank you for joining us.
Thank you to Papo Esco, the king fanboy when he said
that Taíno thing, bro. My Puerto Rican blood
just went off.