1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 You 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:50,000 You 3 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:09,960 Yo, this is the lucha thug the one-man lucha gang L Ray Gordo himself the king fat boy Papa 4 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:13,440 Westcoe and y'all rocking with the urban wrestling network 5 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:20,360 What's really good ladies and gentlemen? It's the og board equal Dondara the talk of New York chef 6 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,200 I'm here with evil. Oh, say evil. Oh, say how are you before we get to the king real quick? 7 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,840 Yo, man, I am here. There is some gentlemen your midnight desire your Puerto Rican 8 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Quintessential Puerto Rican muffin is here as always gotta show some love. I got my tag team partner here evil 9 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Evil or pretty seer. We're ready to go, baby. Yeah, we got we got a big one today chef 10 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,320 I even got my I got I went and got my my head my do back. I got my hat 11 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,200 I gotta be like you today, baby. I'm representing today homie. Listen. We're stupid excited 12 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640 We got King fat boy Papa Westcoe. What's good, baby? 13 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,560 Man, what's happening? What's going on with y'all, man? I'm chilling. I'm chilling. We were talking before this and 14 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,720 I love the shirt like I'm an artist. I draw I seen it and I'm gonna first off 15 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 I know you said that right now you're rocking the prototype 16 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Yeah, I'll put this down just just a little bit see y'all can see this but like this like a prototype 17 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,480 For like the shirt King fat boy Papa Westcoe, you know, it's kind of 18 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,800 Repping for the people repping for the fat boys, you know, I'm saying but um, yes 19 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Yeah, like a prototype just to see how the fabric was see how the print was see if it was gonna fall off or whatnot 20 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,720 But um, you know, I definitely don't want to put out shoddy products. So 21 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,960 December somewhere around there. I'll probably have like a porous link to these shop open. I'll probably be doing little shots 22 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,520 In the DMs, you know, I mean doing shipping that way. I don't know. We'll see but I'm gonna get some merch out 23 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Yeah, for sure. Give me a little early Christmas gift for my love how that Puerto Rican flag 24 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:00,360 That Puerto Rican flag is draped over real nice. It's a tough look. It's a tough look right on right on 25 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,320 So what's up y'all? What's going on? What's good? So take it out 26 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Chilling baby now. Everybody always wants to ask the most annoying question. Unfortunately, we got to ask this 27 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Don't ask it. Don't like ask what was it that? 28 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:21,800 I got to ask it. I got to ask it is what? 29 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,840 What 30 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Hold on so we what we have a little we have a little network problems. What you wanted? You wanted to ask me 31 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,160 There we go 32 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,160 How I got in the wrestling or so? 33 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Yeah, man, unfortunately, that's the that's the annoying question, but everybody's got to know it's good 34 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,140 It's actually it's a different story, you know 35 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,400 What I did was a lot different 36 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,200 I mean people to tell you all the time I've been trying to wrestle for a long time and I couldn't wait to get out of 37 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,680 High school and do this and and what not you know, my story is similar to 38 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Everyone else's in in that 39 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,160 When I was younger, I wanted to wrestle. I wanted to do the wrestling thing 40 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,520 I was getting ready to get out of high school. I was gonna go find a school 41 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:16,920 I was gonna do the whole thing just a whole shebang just like everybody else, but you know life gets in the way, you know, I had to 42 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,640 You know, I had to do something else for a little bit 43 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,120 We won't get into too much of that, but I got into some trouble, you know 44 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,680 I started doing things a little too fast and I had to pay for it. So 45 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,380 After that, you know life gets in the way, you know, you you know 46 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:39,580 I got me a wife and I had kids and life just started happening so fast so young 47 00:04:39,580 --> 00:04:46,520 You know, I mean at it just kind of slipped me so fast forward to you know, maybe like, you know, six seven years ago 48 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,280 I don't know how long we saw the blur, but you know, I was with my kids man 49 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,480 And you know, I had my kids young so they're a little older and we was talking about 50 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,720 The future for them, you know, and what it really means, you know 51 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:10,560 I always talk about my I always talk with my kids about generational wealth and how each family generation needs to build from the last in order to make sure that 52 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,860 you and your kids and your grandkids are all better than 53 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,720 The previous right so we always talk about that and I always tell them 54 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Anything you want to do in life you put your mind to it. You can do it and 55 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,400 One day they was just on me about it, you know making fun of me, you know cracking jokes 56 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,720 Yeah, whatever whatever dad whatever I said, look, I'll show you I'll show you that you could do anything 57 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,080 You put your mind to you could do anything you put your mind to it. You could you could rock with it for sure 58 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,480 And they said okay 59 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Bad I said, all right, so I started thinking what what would be the one thing that I haven't done 60 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,200 that I've always wanted to do that I could show them that 61 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:58,360 You can do it if you put your mind to it and I was like and it's got to be one of the most far-fetched things ever 62 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,240 So you know like you know, you got pro wrestling you got baseball basketball football 63 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Music acting all them jobs are achievable, but they're kind of like far fetch things right for some people 64 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:17,840 You know feel me so I said yo pro wrestling is one thing I've always wanted to do so I 65 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,200 found a school I 66 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Got trained I got started and 67 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,680 And now I'm showing them I mean based on what I'm doing right now and the things that I'm doing 68 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,000 You know, I'm I'm getting a slow build, you know, and I'm starting to get more out there 69 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:38,680 They're starting to see that yo you you can do just about anything you want in life if you put your mind to it, you know 70 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,080 and 71 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,480 You know, that's really how I got in the wrestling row, you know in a nutshell 72 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Sorry for the ramble, but you know 73 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:53,800 That's what's up, right? Yeah, so my for evil. Oh, yeah, I just want to ask what borough you from 74 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,480 For me. Yes, sir 75 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Actually, you know what people think that I'm a New York dude like my family is from the East Coast and my family is from Puerto Rico 76 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,720 I was born out in California man. Get out. Yeah 77 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Yo, you speaking you sound just like me and I'm from Queens. That's always like 78 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,680 It's up bringing, you know, I mean, I you know, I mean 79 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,840 But I all I heard from my family is I mean, I don't even think I talk like anything, you know 80 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,800 I think 81 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 You know, I talk just like my my mother 82 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:33,360 You know, my cousins are my you know, everybody that I've been around all my life. So it's so you out there surfing 83 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,360 I don't know 84 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Me in the ocean don't mix 85 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Look at it. I won't get in that. I won't get in that piece. No, you know 86 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Oh, yeah, I know 87 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Swim out flow. No, we get we get flooded. I'm straight 88 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:02,440 I don't know about I don't know about saving people. That's why I talk like, you know 89 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,480 We talk about kids that had a swim too so they can say this so 90 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Now you mentioned you have kids and you marry right now. Yeah, man. Yeah 91 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Are any of your kids seeing what you're doing now and they're saying, you know something dad is doing this 92 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,400 I want to follow in his footsteps 93 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,840 So yes and no 94 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:29,840 No, none of them want to wrestle, you know, you know, my wife and my kids, they really don't even like wrestling 95 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,080 You know, I mean, so when I do it, I do it. They support it because I'm doing it, but you know, they 96 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,840 They don't really follow it too much 97 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,840 But they are doing they are following in the footsteps in the way that I want them to which is what I go back to before 98 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,840 If you put your mind to something you can achieve anything 99 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,840 So honestly, I'm proud to say that these cats they they saw what I'm doing and they saw how I moved 100 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,840 And they saw how I'm moving and how I'm building and they're starting to figure out what they want to do 101 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,840 And they're gonna go ahead and try to achieve that man 102 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,840 I had kids I had kids young bro like my daughter is 19 right 103 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:11,840 So she's going to college right now trying to get her her career going and then my son is just breaking out of high school 104 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,840 He's a senior this year. So he about to I mean, it's crazy because 105 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:23,840 The thing was was had started, you know, he was he was about ready to go to college for like football for baseball 106 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:30,840 But it's it's still it's still a thing but you know, it's I don't even know how it's gonna work now in the current situation 107 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:36,840 We in but he's still doing it, you know, so yeah, they following in my footsteps in that respect 108 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,840 You know, they know now that they could do anything they want they put their minds to it 109 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,840 So now what's up with the last part of it is Esco is that Pablo Esco boy you took Papa West go kind of thing or 110 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,840 So Papa was a family name. Okay that I adopted and Esco 111 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:03,840 You know, I don't I don't know man. I just they were like, yo, you need a last name and I was going to use my my last name 112 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,840 But it was like, yo, that don't that don't really that don't really fit. So I was just kind of thinking about it and I was like, man 113 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,840 I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go with Esco, you know, you do here, you know, you hear from the East Coast you like Willie Esco now 114 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Willie Esco 115 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,840 You know stuff like that. So it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna use that man there ain't no I wish there was some grandiose story 116 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Some private dosh story that I could just be like, yeah, man, I did this that the other this is what Esco is but it's not 117 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,840 It's not even like that bro. I kind of just did this shit right here like just 118 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,840 I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with that name it works with Papa. You know saying so 119 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 So 120 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,840 What you got? 121 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,840 Don't say yeah, I was gonna say man. I 122 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:50,840 Watch wrestling. I'm like I watch any wrestling. I don't care what language it is. It could be to squirrel wrestling 123 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,340 I'm watching it what I was watching night the United Wrestling Network 124 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,240 And I saw you come out with you know with you in um, and a boy Danny 125 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Like that we interviewed last week 126 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:09,480 And you know, he's not talking first and then he goes, you know, papa watch what you gonna tell him and you came out with this deep 127 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Voice man. I got scared for a second when you when you started coming up. I said this dude's a battle rapper 128 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,520 He's gonna fight about it. I hear in a minute man 129 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Yeah, I want to know like where did you started from the beginning to get to which you are now? 130 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:27,560 wrestling for United Wrestling Network 131 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:35,160 So when I got started man, um, I got started with a training academy called pro wrestling revolution training Academy 132 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,660 It's in the Bay Area out here in California 133 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:44,640 And you know, it's a lucha company. So they train lucha. So man training lucha. I would say this man 134 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,480 I've seen American style training training facilities and 135 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,280 If anybody's gonna get into professional wrestling 136 00:11:53,280 --> 00:12:01,680 Try to find a lucha based training Academy. They're gonna put you through the ringer man. That's gonna be real like rugged real like grimy 137 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:06,880 You know, we're gonna try to take the wind from you type of stuff and that's really what you need man 138 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,840 You need to have wind in order to get through these matches 139 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,280 Otherwise, you just can be sucking wind on the floor. You ain't gonna be able to make it 140 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:19,280 So I got started with that lucha training company training Academy and they also have a company 141 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:25,680 So I started a pro wrestling revolution, which is the promotion. That's where I debuted and they are one 142 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Probably two 143 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Promotions in the Bay Area that are like the biggest in terms of of 144 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,520 like fan base and and and you know stuff like that 145 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,200 So it's funny man. Most cats will tell you that they debuted in this rinky ding high school gym with with 146 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:52,320 20 30 people, you know, I mean but me my debut was in front of like almost a thousand people man, you know and and 147 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,960 It was on fight TV 148 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:01,680 You know during my training, you know, they're going through training of not only like professional wrestling in the ring 149 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:06,960 But like etiquette backstage and how to work cameras, you know, hard cam 150 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Roman cameras, you know stuff like that. So like I I had that 151 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,000 instilled in me to to from the gate, you know, so 152 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Pro wrestling revolution is where I started 153 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,840 And then I kind of just went with them until I got a call from all pro wrestling 154 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,080 Which is the the other of the two biggest promotions in the Bay Area 155 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,520 And just being with them two promotions 156 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:38,560 I got to I got to see and meet a lot of different people, you know, so 157 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:45,040 Just networking working my ass off, you know getting the opportunity to be in a ring with guys like MVP and 158 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,800 Chavo Guerrero 159 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,400 El Tejano 160 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,400 Cycle clown Skyday 161 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,280 You know just all kinds of like people that are just on like on a grand scale 162 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 You know one person talks to the next and before you know it 163 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,880 Dave Marquez called and was like, yo you want to come do this championship wrestling from Hollywood thing? 164 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,680 I got this 165 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:08,720 idea and I was like all right, so 166 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,280 I went down there 167 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:17,280 He introduced me to Danny because I I didn't I didn't know Danny up until that point. I knew of him, but I didn't know him 168 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,440 and then 169 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:25,680 I mean the rest is really history man. We we we started rocking together and and you see what's going on with prime time lives, so 170 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,680 You know, I see Dave Marquez. They keeps coming up everywhere, man. Yeah, man 171 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,880 I was about to say like we keep hearing Dave Marquez come up and I'm like damn this guy's like a 172 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,280 He's like a wrestling genius or something 173 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Man, he's big out here, bro. He's Puerto Rican too, man. He's big out here. You know, I mean he 174 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,680 knows a lot about the business. He knows a lot about 175 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:56,560 The the production and and and all the aspects that go into like building like a tv program and everything man 176 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,560 I can't knows a lot just 177 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,440 You know, I don't really I don't really deal with him too much. You know in terms of like talking with him 178 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,800 It's like hi. Hello. How you doing type of thing when it gets down to business. I do my thing. He does his but just watching him 179 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Yeah, man, I can't that cat has a wealth of knowledge, man, you know 180 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Definitely definitely worth 181 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Sitting under his learning tree, you know, I mean because he's got a lot to offer 182 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 And they mark his 183 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,920 That's what's up. So 184 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,920 When you when you're going through all this 185 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:32,000 And like you said, you do know the stories of people doing the rinky-dink high school things and seeing that 186 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 That's got to be such a crazy 187 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Thought process like once you're done with your match and you're like damn. This was like a thousand people like 188 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,120 What was that that that debut where you come off and you're on fight tv? 189 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,960 That's that's where people who you know, they wish they could be on fight tv 190 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,280 And you're talking years in you know what I mean? 191 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Like we got two guys who are on our podcast and I think together they've been wrestling like 192 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,560 Combined like four or five years and none of them have even touched anything like that 193 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:07,280 For your debut when you come out of that, that's got to be like what was your your feeling coming out of your debut? 194 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Like you I just did this 195 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Yo 196 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,680 I mean, I'm I would I would be lying to you if I didn't say it was nerve-wracking 197 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,400 You know what I mean? 198 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Because it was like live like we was 199 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,600 Yeah, he was like 200 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,600 Streaming so any met there was no, you know, oh you messed up. Let's do it again type of thing. It was like yo record and go 201 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 you know and 202 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:35,520 I take I take that I take that mentality that record and go I live by that mantra because it's like you got to be ready for anything 203 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,640 So I've always been like that, you know, so it was a little bit easier for me to deal with 204 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,000 You know in terms of like going out there and you know 205 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Just doing my thing for you know, but it was nerve-wracking man because there was a lot of elements 206 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,000 I mean shit, you know, there's a lot of people you don't know how they're gonna receive you didn't nobody know who I was 207 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:02,000 You know, I mean so I didn't they didn't know how how how how I was gonna react, you know and row 208 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,600 I mean you got a lot of guys that are 209 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Like wrestling 210 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,560 And they're they're fat, you know, let's let's just call let's just call it spade of space 211 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,560 But you know I'm saying but but ain't nobody 212 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,160 doing 213 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,840 What I do like ain't nobody saying yo, I'm the king fat boy 214 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 They might be fat boys in this joint 215 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,320 But I'm the king of them and they're gonna follow my lead and we're gonna carve our own path 216 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:35,600 We're gonna we cut from a different claw type of thing and and and I didn't know how that was gonna be received because you know cast they want to 217 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 They want to see the big muscle bound do 218 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,800 I'm in the gym 1416 hours a day. I got muscles popping all over the place. I can throw people up in the air like a pizza pie 219 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:50,000 You know, you've got these these daredevil dudes that are just doing all kinds of feats of of just acrobatic, you know magic and they're flipping and 220 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,800 All this stuff and then you got these guys that are trying to tie you with knots technical wizards and whatever 221 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Me I'm going out there as this just straight up dude from the block 222 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,680 They're like, hey, I'm gonna get the dude out of the way. I'm gonna get the dude out of the way 223 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:11,840 I'm going out there as this just straight up dude from the block that don't like nobody don't want to be bothered nobody buy nobody 224 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,360 But if we ain't getting a ring one things for sure. I'ma punch you in the mouth 225 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,400 I'ma kick you in the face 226 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,400 I'ma choke you. I'ma maul you 227 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,800 I'm not gonna put you in an arm wringer. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna put you in an arm bar 228 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,800 I'ma take a steel pipe 229 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,920 You know and hit and hit you with that bar in our arm. You know, I mean, it's not it's a different MO 230 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,240 So I didn't know how they was gonna 231 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,320 I didn't know how they was gonna react to that. So all those elements. It's nerve-wracking. I went out there 232 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Thousand people I just focused on what I was there to do 233 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,360 I focused on what how what I wanted to do for me and how I wanted to get over and 234 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,000 You know, by the grace of God 235 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,320 They they ate it up, you know, and they just kept eating it up every single time 236 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,320 so it's the one thing that I I keep trying to tell people was like 237 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,880 Well, we all that that street element it's it's far in between in this industry like 238 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,320 You know, you have certain guys that do it and then it kind of disappears 239 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,640 So you have your time with it 240 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,920 But a lot of guys don't embrace that so when people see it and it doesn't feel like a like a like a gimmick 241 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,320 People love that shit. So your aggressiveness. I think it's fire 242 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,680 Like I was watching a bunch of your matches today on youtube and I was like damn this guy 243 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:32,400 He goes he you're like high octane, but like that that uh, like you said a moeller kind of like an offensive lineman 244 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,680 When you're a dog like you had that very aggressive style and I was like man, how fucks with this guy? 245 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,920 This guy reminds me of the big homie on the block where shit's gonna pop off and he's the first one running up right to square up 246 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,520 thing is bro 247 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,560 so 248 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,760 You know how you know how cats will tell you like in wrestling they'll tell you oh, yeah 249 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,760 You know if you want to be if you want to get over or whatever you want to call it, you know 250 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,360 You got to be yourself 251 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:02,240 Just like cranked up to a thousand, you know, like I heard like Steve Austin say that I heard 252 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,200 You know triple triple H say that I heard a bunch of different dudes that are on like a big mega star level 253 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 And that I took that to heart, you know 254 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:17,520 So, you know, my real name isn't popo esco, you know, that's that's that's my wrestling name 255 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:23,920 Yeah, but popo esco is me, you know, I mean I it may not be it may not be me now 256 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,640 But there was a point in time, you know, it don't matter if it's new york or if it's california block 257 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,200 It's a block exactly. I mean a corner boy is a corner boy stick up kid is a stick up kid 258 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,280 You know, I mean it doesn't matter where you live. There's people that are like that everywhere 259 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,280 So I grew up, you know, I didn't have no dad, you know, I didn't know what that element was 260 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,920 You know, I had a mom who worked three jobs 261 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,040 She would she would go work the three jobs and then she would come home and she was asleep, you know 262 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,320 My sisters who are all older than me. They was out the house before I even you know became a teenager 263 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,920 So all I had right now honestly was really 264 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:07,120 Yeah, I would go out I would go out in the in the carports and in the parking lots of the of the 265 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,840 Of the grimy, you know apartment complexes that I was living in and you know, I would watch I was I would watch the 266 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,040 The the the old the og's the the young knuckleheads that were still older older than me 267 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:22,640 You know the pimps and and then the players I watched I watched all them 268 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,640 You know and I grew up with all them and I'm not proud to say it 269 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,720 But I mean I I functioned a certain way, you know, so that's like man. That's life, but you mean 270 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Yeah, and and my point is is you know people talk about like my aggression and the way I come off and and the believability and whatever 271 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,480 I'm not I don't feel like I'm doing anything fake, you know, I mean, I don't feel like I'm my aggression is 272 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,120 I mean my kids I bring my kids in right now and I'll 273 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,080 I'll have them tell you how aggressive I can get at times even when I'm talking in a happy sense 274 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,080 It doesn't matter if I'm happy sad 275 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720 fearful whatever angry 276 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,680 my my 277 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,760 My passion and what I'm saying at the time. I'm saying it is is always going to be there and it's never going to change 278 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,400 So, um, I appreciate what you're saying, but it's like I don't know any other way 279 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040 You know, I mean, I this is me. This is me 280 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:21,680 Whether it's in front of that camera wrestling or at the house talking with somebody, you know personally, it's I'm the same dude 281 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,320 See that that's what I was telling one of the guys and I was like, yo 282 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,960 This guy I'm telling you I was telling the guy Hannibal Wolf. I was like, yo, this guy kicking him 283 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Fat boy popo. I was like, yo, this guy doesn't seem like a gimmick to me 284 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,800 I was like everything I keep looking at it's way too natural 285 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,280 You know what I mean? Like and if if if you're from any kind of 286 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Urban environment you you you understand what's real you see it and you know, what's not forced 287 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520 And I was like, yo this dude I swear to god 288 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,280 I feel like he was one of my homies from the block like I don't know why and you know 289 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:01,360 I tell people now, you know, I'm 41. I'm you know, I'm 20 twice where people try to count you out 290 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,760 I got two kids one of them sitting right here because he wanted he wants to hit the interview. So 291 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,920 It's like people don't understand and when I see people like you it 292 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,160 It inspires me even at my age because I'm like damn man. Like we're making it, you know, it shows 293 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,280 The youth that you don't got to be out there doing that because you could be him 294 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,160 You know to be like you the next, you know, fat boy popo. Let's go. You could be the king 295 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,640 Uh, my fault my fault. Even though they my fault. I snatched that one 296 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,600 You think man, you were getting passionate about the streets. Yeah, you know 297 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,520 We're always passionate about the streets, bro 298 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,240 It's so hard like when we do these most of the time, uh, people aren't from that 299 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 You know what I mean? Like they're from good neighborhoods. They go to schools and stuff 300 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,760 So when I get to interview someone like you it's like I finally could be me 301 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,080 You know, I could talk like this and it's all good where if we do somebody else 302 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,400 I got to be like so how you doing? How's your day? 303 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000 You know, like you got to kind of tone it down and I don't have to tone it down with you 304 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Which is super dope for me. But like I said my fault 305 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Okay, but I wanted to have mr. S go over here, man 306 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,960 I know I know we had all of us has plans 307 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,600 before the covid hit 308 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760 I called the plague 309 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160 When when that hit 310 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Did you plans? I mean, did you have already plans made up before it hit and when it did hit? 311 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:35,040 Did it change for the better or did you change or you stuck the same way the whole the whole way through? 312 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320 So I'm gonna say this it 313 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,640 It changed 314 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,640 I don't I don't want to say it changed for the better 315 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,800 But it helped me get to one of one of the major goals that I had 316 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,960 You know before the pandemic hit. I was getting ready to 317 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,080 I was ready. I was getting ready to invade your neck of the woods 318 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,440 I was I was getting ready to go out to the east coast and start working all throughout that area 319 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840 I was gonna flood that area with poppa west go broke 320 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280 I was gonna go down to florida and flood that area with poppa west go broke 321 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,400 You know, I'm saying I was trying to get out there and get my name out there 322 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:14,560 Ultimate goal was trying to get you know a chance or at least a look by uh, you know one of these one of these feds 323 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,640 You know like r o h m l w 324 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Impact, you know I'm saying maybe nxt. Who knows, you know nwa now 325 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Everything that Dave marquez is doing 326 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,520 Had already been on my radar had already been on my radar for a while and I wanted that you know 327 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240 I mean, but I didn't want to go begging that's one of the thing about me 328 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280 I I didn't I didn't I didn't work a lot of places 329 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,960 You know, I can probably count on my hand the amount of places that I've worked as far as promotions go 330 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600 And it's because I'm not out there trying to actively seek 331 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Work, I'm not trying to you know, I'm not being like yo, please book me on this, you know 332 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800 By the grace of god everybody's come to me and said yo 333 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Me you know because of how I'm doing I feel like it's more important for me to get 334 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Looked at and get brought in versus me 335 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,800 You know just trying to you know, I don't know ask for a plate, you know, I'm saying I don't know how else to say it 336 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,960 so 337 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,160 um 338 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160 The pandemic hit 339 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:18,960 And I was just kind of floating, you know, just just being at home with my family making sure they're okay and whatever and then 340 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,080 You know marquez hit me up and was like yo 341 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,520 um 342 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,800 You know come work just like I said before and I was like man, this is what I've been waiting for 343 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Hell, yeah, I got excited, you know, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm yeah, I'm gonna do this, you know 344 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,680 I went out there and and what you see is is what's happening now. So I mean ultimately 345 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Just to you know bring it all back to what you had originally asked 346 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,040 I mean, it's like it's like six one way half a dozen the other bro. It's like 347 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Yeah, I did miss a lot of opportunities to you know flood other areas and preach the gospel of the king fat boy 348 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,880 You know even much more 349 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,680 But I mean it's equally in my opinion 350 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,600 um 351 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080 A huge benefit for me to be on tv 352 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,640 You know every week 353 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,640 I mean champions wrestling from hollywood 354 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,200 And champions are wrestling in general 355 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,640 You know, it's it's got me being seen, you know by by a lot of people on youtube 356 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,920 But not only that it's it's syndicated television in the bay area 357 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,480 in in southern california and texas and in louisiana in in in in uh 358 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,200 florida in tennessee, you know 359 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,680 I'm getting a whole new fan base based on this opportunity and then united wrestling networks prime time live every tuesday 360 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,360 On fight 361 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:44,400 That's even up in the ante that that much more. So yeah, like I said, man, you know six one way half a dozen half a dozen the other brother 362 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,440 It's 363 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,160 You know, yeah, I missed out on a lot of opportunities before the pandemic hit, you know once the pandemic hit but 364 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Um, I got blessed with another one in in my opinion equal, you know, or maybe even more of an opportunity. So 365 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,640 See I feel like I'm rambling man 366 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,240 Nah, nah, nah the door you giving gems out here bro. Like you put out there. Yeah, yeah 367 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,360 So I'm we're obviously big impact guys. I love impact. He loves impact. I love them 368 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,800 I think that I would love to see you on impact because I do think impacts rise 369 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,240 It's coming back up to where it was trying to be before and I think that there's so many opportunities 370 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,200 No one there's no one like you right now on tv. Like I'm gonna tell you that right now 371 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:34,240 I don't give a shit what anyone says. There's nobody right now. That's like you on tv and you will stand out if if you get that 372 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Opportunity you kill it. You know what I'm saying like and then I do have this other thing where I was talking with evil 373 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,120 Olte and I was like damn man if lax, which is pride and powerful went away 374 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,640 From the inner circle. I said damn. I would love to see king papo and danie lomelike 375 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Roll with them and aew and do that bodega thing there because you know all Puerto Ricans and everything 376 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,120 I was like, this would be like a whole new like kind of latino world daughter 377 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Like we see it. Wcw wcw back in the days 378 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,440 I was like these guys would kill it 379 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,680 But I just want to see you focused on a major platform because you're killing it right now people are seeing you 380 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,800 I got people that are like I've told people. Yo, we're gonna talk to that, you know 381 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Uh, popo escrow and they're like, oh, I seen that guy on tv. I'm like, yes, son is you know, he's the man 382 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,920 so 383 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,800 If if they give you that opportunity, there's no way that you don't shine 384 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000 You know what I'm saying like it's so different than everything else 385 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,000 And I think that there's nobody especially an impact an mlw 386 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,080 I do my homework to see who's doing what and like I'm not trying to fantasy book 387 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,040 But I think those would be the two places that you just take off and just steamroll people 388 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Man, I would love I would love the opportunity to 389 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Um to go do stuff like that over in those areas. Um, you know, I know folks that you know, I've been around and I know folks that are in those areas 390 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:01,040 Like jacob pho too. I know I know him very well. That's my boy. You know, I mean and he's out there doing this thing for mlw 391 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,040 as their world champion 392 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Um, Reno stum, you know, uh adam thornstone. Dave 393 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Uh, less of the legend them cats man. They're doing it an impact. I know them cats 394 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:17,200 I mean, I feel like there's definitely opportunities. I just hope that the right time will come, you know, until then I'm just gonna lay 395 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Uh lay low just kind of be patient, you know and wait for them to call. But yeah, man 396 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,400 Go to talking on that. Um that uh problem powerful thing 397 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,000 That not since like savi ovega and los los boricuas 398 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,400 What equals has has there ever been 399 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:44,400 a faction that was just like Puerto Rican dudes, you know, I mean and this this this is the this is the intent 400 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,480 of the bodega 401 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,680 I I've 402 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,760 I've been billed from the bodega since the beginning since day one since the first time they ever said 403 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:01,680 You know coming down to our Wayne 300 and whatever pounds king fat boy papa west coast they I was been billed from the bodega 404 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,880 I really feel like that's a staple for our people because you can really get anything you need from there 405 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 You know, I mean that is that is it's a church 406 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,720 In in my opinion if I'm wrong you tell me I'm wrong, but I don't know. It's a church 407 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,800 Every bodega in America is a church for our people. So I figured we need to push that I'll push that narrative, you know 408 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,120 and you know, it's a 409 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Did you give you get you the fucking chopped cheese sandwich or whatever, you know, I'm like every road 410 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,560 something I've been wanting to do for a while and to be able to bring that to life with Danny is definitely a 411 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:51,680 and you never know who's gonna, you know, you never know who's gonna join up next man 412 00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:53,920 And you know 413 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,920 the 414 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,920 time to bring the Puerto Rican's out there right now with affection. 415 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,920 And that's what I love to see because I'm seeing 416 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,920 more Puerto Rican's coming up. Yeah, a lot of 417 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,920 and I've seen yesterday that MFW now signed a partnership 418 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,920 with IWA from Puerto Rico. So now they're going to be bringing 419 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Puerto Rican time up to MFW and MFW 420 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 to Puerto Rico. So that might be an opening right there to get more 421 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Puerto Rican's from the island to come up. 422 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,920 And open that door and get the floodgate going man. 423 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Because I remember last week when we did the 424 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Ending with Greenlight, I tagged you on Twitter 425 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,920 with the bodega that won some from the bodega from SkyZoo. 426 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,920 And I was like, you know, like you mentioned we all grew up on the 427 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,920 bodega. We all know what the bodega is. We spend hours 428 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,920 at the bodega hanging in the corner. Yeah. 429 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,920 Shilling hours and hours away. Now I'm not 430 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,920 going to lie to you. I want to see a female part of this faction. 431 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,920 I don't know what Puerto Rican females are out there, but I want to see a Puerto 432 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Rican chick that goes down with the bodega. That's just my personal 433 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,920 thing. And here's the thing, like I got into 434 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,920 a little bit of a debate with somebody. I won't say who, but a little bit of a 435 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,920 debate with somebody about this. Everybody been saying that. 436 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920 You need a female. I was like, okay, yeah, it's coming. It's coming. We just got to make sure it's 437 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,920 the right one. Exactly. And they're like, oh well, you know, this is 438 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,920 wrestling, right? Rocky Romero is a Puerto Rican 439 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,920 dude, but he's out there saying he's from Cuba. You know what I'm saying? So it could be 440 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,920 just about anybody. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is different. 441 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,920 If we're going to do this bodega thing and we're going to push for the Puerto 442 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Rican, just got to be a Puerto Rican woman. So I 443 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,920 don't know who that would be. 444 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,920 I don't know. I mean, Eva Lise is probably one 445 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,920 that we can have. I would love to have her in the squad. 446 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,920 What's the girl from Impact? 447 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Tasha Steele. That's another one. 448 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,920 You know what I mean? So they're definitely out there, but it's really 449 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,920 thin though. It's thin. 450 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Everything's got to connect, bro. 451 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,920 I know two other Puerto Rican chicks. Gavi or Tia from Feli 452 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,920 and Carisa Rivera. She's also from Feli. 453 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920 I would love to find 454 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,920 like a queen fat girl. 455 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Like a big, just rough, rugged. 456 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,920 Like a big, just rough, rugged style of female that can get in there 457 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,920 and just wreck shot. You know what I mean? 458 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,920 It's kind of like Lady of Rage kind of thing. 459 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,920 I don't know. Something like that. 460 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Something like that. Just somebody that's going to knock heads and just get in there 461 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,920 and cause a ruckus. 462 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,920 You know what I mean? 463 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Maybe that goes out with that gore that can. 464 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,920 Here, here, here, here's some gore that's missing your system. 465 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Here's some fiber for your life. 466 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,920 Listen, this would be my last question because I know everybody's busy. 467 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,920 What's your next thing? What's the... 468 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,920 I need this. Who's the next challenge? Who's the person you want next? 469 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,920 Who's the next challenge? Who is it? 470 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,920 Right now I'm just focused on this 471 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,920 bull digger movement. Me and Danny, we gunning 472 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920 for the United Wrestling Network Tag Team titles right now. 473 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,920 That's what we're looking for. 474 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,920 If we can get our hands on that, that'll be the first. 475 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Obviously, we're affiliated with the NWA. 476 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,920 That's really what I grew up on. That was my favorite thing. 477 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,920 The enforcer, Arne Anderson, was my all-time and is my all-time favorite wrestler. 478 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,920 So just to be a part of the NWA is something. 479 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,920 Who's that? Eli Drake and James Storm. 480 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,920 They have the NWA Tag Team titles, so we're going to be gunning for them. 481 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,920 Honestly, man, look, the goal for me right now, those United 482 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,920 Wrestling Network Tag Team titles, we get those, man. I'm going to start popping my gums 483 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,920 at every single tag team champion at every single 484 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,920 promotion. We can go to you or you can come to us. 485 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,920 We're going to be the team to beat. I want to make 486 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,920 sure that we bring a lot of fire to 487 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,920 those tag belts. That's the first goal. 488 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,920 NWA is the next goal. 489 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Singles run maybe, maybe not. I'm having fun teaming 490 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,920 with Danny and building this Bodega faction. 491 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,920 We'll see what happens, man. Sky's the limit, bro. 492 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,920 I'll say this though for everybody that's watching, man. If you are Puerto Rican, 493 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,920 you will understand this. Like the Mexican dudes 494 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,920 that talk about Aztecs and everything like that, man. 495 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,920 We got the blood of thousands 496 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,920 of fallen Taíno warriors in our system. 497 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,920 It's time for us to aggressively 498 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,920 have people see what that's about. 499 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,920 It's going to be fun, just keeping the ball rolling. 500 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,920 Hold on, wait, wait, wait. 501 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,920 Hold up, son. When this is over, I need you to 502 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,920 go back and take that little part there where you set up all those Taíno's. 503 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,920 Just clip that all by yourself. 504 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,920 I'll say everywhere. I want people to hear that. 505 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,920 I'll do that. But before you say it, I got you 506 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,920 my brother. Before you say that, I know that you also said something to 507 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,920 Nick Aldis that that belt was looking interesting. 508 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,920 I hit up Nick Aldis like, yo, Nick, don't be shook. 509 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,920 I got blocked by Nick for saying he was shook of you. So I was like, wow, that was pretty 510 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,920 soft. That Nick Aldis blocked me for saying that my man's going to run through 511 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,920 you. I just thought that was funny because I was like, you know, just messing with Nick Aldis. 512 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,920 He felt a certain way. He got scared. He got shook. Hey, look, man, no, 513 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,920 he didn't respond to me. So he didn't address me. 514 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,920 But any of them single, like we talking singles right now, any of them dudes 515 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,920 from the NWA can get it. The Pope just won the television title. He can get it. 516 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,920 Trevor Murdoch just won the national title. He can get it. Nick Aldis 517 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,920 just, he's got the 10 pounds of gold. He can get it. I mean, dude, 518 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,920 I'm so, I'm so ready right now. You know what I mean? 519 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,920 I truly feel that I could bang with any of them dudes in the ring. 520 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,920 No question. In front of the camera and especially on a microphone. 521 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,920 I don't have a problem with saying that my promo skills 522 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,920 is on par with anybody's. And if you give me an inch, 523 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,920 I'm going to kill you with the promo, bro. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who it is. 524 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,920 I'll bang with anybody as far as that, you know, 525 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,920 in front of the camera recording, go thing goes, man. 526 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,920 You know, all it takes is a red light, bro. Give me that red light. That's record. 527 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920 I'm a go. So, you know, 528 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,920 Hey, tell me, sir, let me ask you one more question here. 529 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,920 Now you said you had two kids, 19, a daughter and a son. 530 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,920 Not for you. Any upcoming 531 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,920 roster that's seeing this that once again to the business and what 532 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,920 you've been through. Why can you tell them if they want to 533 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920 follow in the same footsteps? 534 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,920 I mean, just look. 535 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,920 You know what you want to do in life. You know what you want to do. 536 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,920 Don't say that you don't know. Don't shrug your shoulders. 537 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,920 Don't, you know, just try to play dumb. You have an absolute idea of what 538 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,920 you want to do in life. No matter how far fetched it is. 539 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,920 If you want to do it, write it down. Write it down in the middle of a piece of paper. 540 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,920 Cluster it. If you don't know what a cluster is, you write something down. 541 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,920 You put a little circle around it. You got branches going from that root. 542 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,920 How do I get there? Figure out how you're going to get there and 543 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,920 put the work in. Everybody want to be famous? Nobody want to put the work in. 544 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,920 But once you put the work in, everything's going to fall into place. 545 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,920 Get you a good training academy and go and really research it. 546 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,920 You know, you got guys that are running some academies. You know, I don't mean to be talking like this 547 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,920 because I don't like to talk. I don't like to diss nobody or none like that. That's not my M.O. 548 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,920 But honestly, there's some training academies out there 549 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,920 where dudes are training other dudes the wrong way. You know, you're going to get hurt like that. 550 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,920 Do your research. Find you a good school. 551 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,920 Find you a school where somebody who is training you has a lot of 552 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920 experience, a lot of worth in the business, and then from there, just 553 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920 be a sponge. Soak everything in class. 554 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,920 And when you're outside of class, soak everything in by watching all kinds of 555 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,920 wrestling. A lot of guys will tell you that 556 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,920 you know, oh, I want to be like such and such or I want to be like such and such. You got to be real with yourself. 557 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,920 You know, I'm not no big 301 558 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,920 pound burly dude trying to be like Ricochet and trying 559 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920 to be like Arne Anderson. No, my dudes of study was 560 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,920 you know, Takeshi Morsima, 561 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,920 Gary Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, one man gang, 562 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,920 you know, like those type of dudes that are just like bigger dudes and you got 563 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,920 it. You got to you got to study the right way for your own personal game. 564 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,920 And then just keep just keep working, man. 565 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,920 Don't don't be complacent. Get on social media. I mean, social media 566 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,920 is like on fire right now when it comes to us. Ain't nobody was 567 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,920 anybody ain't nobody from your way is going to know who I am 568 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,920 if there was no Instagram or Twitter or 569 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,920 whatever. I'd have to actually go out there to get my name out there. 570 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,920 So take advantage of social media. 571 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,920 Set up a don't try not to get your personal life and your 572 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,920 wrestling life meshed. Get you 573 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,920 social media specific to pro wrestling and 574 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,920 market yourself, man. Do promos, get promos out there. 575 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,920 Do like little vignettes. You got iPhone. 576 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,920 You got iMovie on your iPhone or whatever movie suite on 577 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920 your Android. Figure out how to use that and then make little 578 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,920 vignettes of yourself. There's a ton of ways for you to get out there, man. You just got to 579 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,920 put the work in to figure out what that is and then don't stop until you get what you want. 580 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,920 I mean, that's really all I got to say about that. 581 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,920 The funny thing is before the pandemic, me and Chef didn't know how to do half of the stuff that we're doing now. 582 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,920 We learned to the whole pandemic. 583 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,920 You said just going there and going on YouTube and watching all these videos. 584 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,920 And my man chef knows how to do more than I do. 585 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,920 And I'm just like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 586 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,920 Do it by hand. Like yourself out, bro. I'm just going to sit back here and just keep eating my cookies. 587 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,920 So listen, we chopped it up. We 588 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920 definitely chewed his ear off a way too long. 589 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,920 Hopefully we didn't get in the way of you having to do whatever you had to do for the rest of the day. 590 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,920 I just want to say thank you. First off, let me 591 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,920 salute you for real because like I said before, you inspire me 592 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,920 at this point. I'm still like, keep doing your thing. 593 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,920 I appreciate that. If you can, please hit it with all your social 594 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,920 media so they know where to find you. I'm also going to put it in the links and everything else. 595 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,920 But I think they can follow you in your spot. Yeah, man. 596 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,920 So on social media, you can follow me on 597 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,920 Facebook. That's Papa Westco. You can follow me on Instagram. 598 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,920 That's Papa Westco. You can follow me on Twitter. 599 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,920 Papa underscore esco. My kids told me 600 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,920 to do the Snapchat thing. So I'm going to try to figure out the 601 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,920 Snapchat thing and do that's Papa Westco. 602 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,920 And then I just want to shout out. I always do this. So I want to shout out 603 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,920 Pro Wrestling Train Pro Wrestling Revolution Training Academy 604 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,920 in San Jose, California. If I hadn't gotten to them 605 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,920 and they didn't train me up the correct way, I wouldn't be 606 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,920 what I am right now. You know, Gabe Ramirez, Brown bomber, 607 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,920 Robert Thompson, a lot of my other trainers, Vinny Missaro, 608 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,920 Sky Day, Lady Apache. There's so many of them. 609 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,920 Pro Wrestling Revolution, 610 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,920 Pro Wrestling Revolution, the promotion, you know, without them getting me started, 611 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,920 I definitely wouldn't be what I am right now. So I definitely give 612 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,920 a shout out to them. And then they also got Lucha 613 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,920 Lucha-masks.com. Go there. 614 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,920 They have a bunch of face covers from officially licensed Lucha Doors 615 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,920 like Blue Demon, El Santo, you know, guys like that. 616 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,920 Those face covers are really cool. 617 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,920 They're really comfortable. And you know, they're going to help 618 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,920 you stay safe with the whole pandemic. 619 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,920 So I got this. 620 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,920 Go ahead, brother. You chop through. 621 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,920 No, go ahead. Oh, no. What I was going to say is, you know, 622 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,920 once again, we appreciate you for everything. Evil Lonesay, do me a favor. Take us out of here 623 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920 so we can get up out of here and everybody go do what they got to do because I'm hungry 624 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,920 for the flower. Amen. Thank you for joining us. 625 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,920 Thank you to Papo Esco, the king fanboy when he said 626 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,920 that Taíno thing, bro. My Puerto Rican blood 627 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:23,920 just went off.