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What's good everyone, we are back New Year, first show of the New Year.

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We are back with a big show, MLW looking to start the year off in a big way with Kings

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of Coliseum.

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That was January 6th at the time of this recording, it was the previous Saturday.

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And we got a bunch of stuff to cover on there.

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So in the meanwhile, of course, I did introduce people because I'm rusty at this stuff.

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I'm Rob Cammer, host of the MLW Confusion podcast with me, the Augurary of Odd Lane

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Sign, Muffins Martinez.

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Muffins how are you doing?

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First of all, I don't even know what that word is.

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The first word you said, I've never heard of before.

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So hopefully something great because I'm not going to have to look it up later.

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Breaking out with the source this week.

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Yes, or dictionary or something.

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I have no idea how to even spell it.

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I might have to stop making something up and figure that out.

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There it goes.

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Take notes.

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Everybody take notes.

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Not only are you going to get the wrestling knowledge, you're going to get some verbal

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words in there as well.

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But this is a wrestling podcast, not a literary podcast.

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So Kings of Coliseum, that is like the only news, like really the only thing MLW has done

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in the last two weeks.

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And looks like they're going bi-weekly now instead of having a fusion every week.

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So I'm seeing is like going to be like every other Saturday.

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Yeah, that's weekly stuff on Thriller and then whatever the tapings that they before

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and after the pay-per-view, that'll be the free show on YouTube on unbeen sports.

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So yeah, I'm curious, curious about that move.

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Like I personally, I'm not a fan of it.

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Like I think it's harder to sustain momentum that way, especially for a company the size

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of MLW.

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You do kind of need to have that constant wheel of promotion, especially for the bigger

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shows.

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And to be honest, MLW isn't always good at sustaining momentum when they're not on air.

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Like they have this nasty tendency to take their off seasons very seriously.

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And do like the barest of bare minimums when they're not in the air.

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But I don't know, that's just me, it works for them great.

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But I mean, it's all on YouTube, well, outside of the being Thriller stuff or not the being

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of the fight TV, Thriller stuff.

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Yeah, whatever.

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It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

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Like you said, momentum, you know, every, bi-weekly every two weeks.

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I don't know, man, but you know, hopefully this is just something temporary.

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And now hopefully, you know, after May, June, don't go back to some weekly stuff.

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But now that I say it looks like maybe like bi-weekly stuff.

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So, yeah.

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And as always, if you ask court, he has something cooking.

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So I have something, something maybe cooking.

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Maybe they're going to do a soft brand split because we do have the return of Azteca in

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May.

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So maybe, you know, maybe that's going to have something to do with it or they're just

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going to do what they usually do and just alternate TV show names.

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So Fusion, Underground, Azteca, and then you know, go back and forth.

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But really, as I said, like the big thing about this week has been the kings of Coliseum.

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So let's jump right in.

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The show opens with the six man tag, Trio's action, if you will.

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What do you think about this year match, Muffins?

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Love it.

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Love it.

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Love it.

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Car crash inside the ring.

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Everybody flying from left to right.

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It looks smooth and look great.

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It was an amazing car crash.

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And you know, with the youth, they're really getting pushed since the last two shows that

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they've been there.

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So I can't wait till they get their title match whenever that happens.

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But I really enjoyed this match and it was a good opener to get things going.

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When I saw this match, I was thinking to myself, man, this show is going to be crazy.

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Didn't happen that way.

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So you know, a lot of matches kind of underwhelmed for me, but this match definitely got me excited

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for the rest of the night.

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And I was the right team one, where the youth is getting pushed.

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I like that youth movement that they're pushing now, where a lot of guys that, you know, we

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didn't know a couple of months ago.

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So I'm definitely looking forward to see how this progressing with a lot of these young

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guys coming in.

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Yeah, I agree.

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This is a textbook opening contest, something to get the plug go and get you excited for

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the rest of the show.

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Yeah, as you said, like I think overall, I think the right team one, because they are

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pushing wasted youth.

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And if you're going to have it's not a good look to have your number one contenders take

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a fall, even if this is not like a, you know, a regular tag team match.

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I did think, you know, a couple of things were rather interesting.

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One is this, they finally are really kind of putting over Alec Price on commentary.

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They routinely referred to him as having several viral moments within the match.

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And let's, I mean, let's face it that like double stomp into tornado DDT was like nifty

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site to behold.

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But yeah, so commentary put over price pretty hard in addition to obviously wasted youth

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having the match.

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The only thing that's slightly disappointed me and this, I mean, this is one of those

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like cases where regardless of my opinion, there's no winner within it because, but I

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would have liked, but I think the team of Depp and Crawford and McCoy kind of need

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to win that like just in general, just to really kind of cement that they are a dastardly

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team to beat.

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But again, like, but it shouldn't come to that the expense of wasted youth.

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So what are you going to do there?

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Actually like the fallout for this, like I'm actually really interested to see where things

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go in terms of the tag team titles, the situation here, just because wasted youth in ring wasted

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youth are like the is like the exact opposite of whatever incarnation of the second year

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crew we're going to see, which assuming assuming it's the SCG or SGC, excuse me, that are getting

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that are holding the belts when we wasted youth wasted youth cash in.

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But like I'm curious to see how that match will play out because the crew are just big

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brawler dudes.

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Like, yes, justice takes to the air, but like his air is pretty rudimentary.

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Like he just gets up top and just falls on you.

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I mean, okay, he's a bit more graceful than that.

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But like he's not doing a moonsault.

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He's not doing 450s.

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He's dropping elbows.

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He's doing body presses that sort of like they are not innovators of offense.

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They are just the batch of ugly dudes who are just going to beat you up.

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And I'm not saying this match is going to be bad.

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Like actually, as they like to throw out in MLW styles make fights.

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So this is interesting.

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I'll have to dig it up.

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I didn't do extra research for this really.

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But I'm curious because I want I think at least manders has some history with wasted

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youth, but I'll have to look look that up just because they're both Northeast guys now.

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But no, it was a great like it was a great match to get the crowd going.

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Start the night off hot.

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Yeah, no complaints there.

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So you said the right guys won.

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And yeah, that's that's I think covered kind of like all we need about that.

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You're going to be wrong.

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I don't know.

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Next, going down my list.

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Oh, things about the next thing we really need to talk about is the next next match,

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which happens to be the featherweight championship match.

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I from a sow of TJPW in Japan takes on promotion is Doradas.

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Jenae Kai with Selena de la Renta.

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This match, I'm not as harsh of this match as some people have been.

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I thought it was a perfectly serviceable match.

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But like for me, like the real like let down overall for it was just kind of we'll say

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the booking of the featherweights in general.

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You know, Jenae Kai is facing a monster of the week almost just kind of like people are

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just showing up.

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And like, yeah, they may deserve the title because of like who they were elsewhere, but

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you got to kind of do your research for that.

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No, like I would like to see Jenae Kai face someone in MLW or on top or barring that to

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get, you know, a little bit more than just one hype package for whomever the opponent's

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going to be because we only saw one hype video for hyper Masao and like it really didn't do

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that great of a job to explain who she was like overall like it was a good like one time

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intro, but you need to kind of in, you know, evolve that introduction as well.

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So we just got like the same hype package over and over, which did next to nothing for

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actually educating your viewer like as I said, like the match was fine.

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I just it was just kind of a letdown for being just fine and just, you know, having like,

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I know it's a big deal for MLW to have these partnerships, but if you're not going to like

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help us figure out who the who these people are, you're not doing that.

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You're not doing the match.

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You're doing the match into service.

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And since the match itself didn't blow, you know, didn't blow anyone out of the water,

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like we really don't understand why hyper Masao got the title shot as compared to like anybody

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else in the world.

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I mean, the last two shows, Genet Jenaikai has been going against two monsters, good

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talent.

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I love the partnership with TJ, you know, TJ PW.

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Why this specific person got a title match?

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I have no clue.

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Like you said, I was very disappointed with the match.

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It looked more like a comedy after a while with hyper, especially the one thing that

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she did with the bicycle that she gets on the bike and goes across the ring, riding

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a bike for a clothesline.

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I'm like, yeah, you know, you know, I figure Tom Lawler or Braun Strowman can do a lap

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around the ring on.

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I'm like, the bicycle.

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The bicycle is a little much, but it took so long to kind of hurt that hurt pedaling.

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That was my that was my complaint.

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It took like a half hour.

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Like, yes, yeah.

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I'm like, oh, this is going to be waiting for you there.

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This whole time when you're trying to figure out how to pedal your own bike.

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And I will like interrupt just briefly to point out like that this seemed to be kind

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of a quasi reoccurring theme throughout the night.

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Like one of like my things I noticed is like some of the pacing in a lot of matches seem

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to be off where like we had these spots that took way too long to set up whether it was

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the bike spot or in our next match, having our ring board chair pyramid thing and just

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like kind of like really disrupted the flow of some of these matches.

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I will just point it with this specific featherweight match.

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All of the ones they've done before have been awesome.

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The one for next month, I don't know whoever she's going to wrestle.

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Hopefully you'll better than this one.

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But I like that they're bringing people from a different company to, you know, go for the

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title, but hopefully next month, it'll be someone from the States.

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I'm surprised they still haven't brought anybody from CMLL, female wise to challenge.

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So hopefully that will happen soon.

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I'm still waiting for anybody from MLW to go to TJPW and wrestle there like Jenae Kai

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or even, you know, the last champion.

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dummy XO.

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You know, dummy XO to go up there.

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That will then that will feel like a regular or real partnership there.

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But are we seeing if people coming from CMLL and from TJPW, but no one from here going

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to either of those places except for Rocky the Rower who already wrestles there.

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And I honestly, like, I would like to see like a little bit more interaction with the

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current like featherweight roster too.

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Like the in terms of title matches, the actual roster seems to be taking a backseat to whoever

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they're bringing in.

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And I know like they're dropping hints at Zeta Steel or at least she's asking for a

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title shot and it hasn't been quite granted yet.

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You know, but like I like something seems to be going on with dummy XO kind of sorted,

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but they they they haven't elaborated on that yet.

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And like she's not gotten a proper rematch.

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She had the triple threat match with T.R.

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James.

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But like they haven't T.R.

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James.

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Yeah, but they but they haven't put too much stock in their own featherweights.

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It seems like I mean, and they brought in like a couple of folks too, like in the periphery

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and they're not doing much with like a Magnificent Mimi and what.

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And she's going to be there at the show for in two weeks.

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She hasn't matched there.

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So at least they're using some of the indie females to come in from master factories.

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So that's a good thing.

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But all I'm seeing them is take losses.

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I haven't seen them, you know, get it when yet.

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So yeah, so it's it's kind of like a revolving door.

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They're not really building anyone up within MLW to unseat Kai, which like.

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I mean, it's not great.

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I mean, yeah, you can probably pull a surprise card again, like kind of how like Kai came

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in and won the title.

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But I also don't see the point of having a division if you're not going to build the

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division to a point where they should be able to be contenders for the title properly, especially

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once again, especially with your with your with the last champion still a part of the

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roster.

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Yeah.

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And then you have Becca, who was going to be the one who's going to take the title

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match and then everything don't know what happened with Becca and kind of felt the wheels

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after that when we're getting this specific different challenges every month from TJPW

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female.

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So right.

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And so I don't know.

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You know, again, I'm not going to complain too much as long as the match quality holds

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up.

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And yes, comparatively speaking, I feel like this one was a downer, but I also will note

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that like, but I also note that like the featherweight's been putting out bangers.

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So at some point, you know, a drop off is going to happen.

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They can't all be a pluses.

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You know, sometimes you just drop off.

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But but I say, I didn't think it was outside of the bike spot and I didn't hate the bike

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spot.

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I just took hated how long it took to do it.

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Yeah, it took too long.

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But like, I didn't hate the use of the bicycles and I definitely I'm not like taking it as

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harshly as a whole as some of the other folks on the intro webs, but whatever.

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But speaking of, but to bring things up, our match following this was for the tag team

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championships as the second year crew represented by Matthew Justice and the one called Manders

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takes on WTFs Tom Lawler and Joshua Bishop.

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What do you think, Buffins?

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I'll be honest, I actually enjoyed this match.

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I mean, even though I'm not too keen on that type of matches, you know, tables all with

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chairs and all that kind of shit going back and forth.

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Just once the young kid's name looks like Sid Vicious Bishop Bishop.

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He looks like Sid Vicious Junior.

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So you know, I just do a little more sit ups and you'll get there to look just like him.

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He I mean, he for being new, he definitely has a lot of power, you know, and he took

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a lot of spots there, especially the one justice went up and I think he's going to do the work

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on justice and justice turned around and went to the tables.

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I actually thought there WTF was going to get the titles to be honest with you.

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I was okay, we're going to see some title changes.

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They didn't happen, they were just surprised by it, but happy that it didn't happen.

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But yeah, I was very impressed with the whole match.

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It was it was clean.

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I loved it, you know, right.

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Good destruction all over the place.

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And the kid just what kind of phrase them again.

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Joshua Bishop.

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Yeah, Bishop.

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Okay, I want to keep saying just but Bishop, yes, Vicious Junior.

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Yeah, he definitely impressed me.

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So I'm looking forward to those guys moving forward and see where they go.

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I mean, there was a I was thinking when the tag team Bella, they didn't.

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So what's going to happen next month?

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You know, where do they go from here as a tag team?

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And I think that is the big question overall, especially when it comes to WTF.

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I'll talk and go back to the match here in a bit.

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But like since you kind of brought it up, where do we go next?

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I feel like that's a big question for WTF in general, because that has been the nature

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of the beast.

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Like at best, they seem to do like they will pick up matches, you know, when the lights

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aren't quite so bright like justice, excuse me, Bishop beat justice technically, you know,

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last month.

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But and Cardona's had pretty good results except for the world title match.

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But like as a whole, WTF really has not done much of anything for trying to launch this

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sports entertainment takeover of the company.

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And it's kind of getting to the point where they do need some sort of big signature win

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to kind of justify their existence.

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Like I know that a lot of the MSL stuff is played for laughs, but like you have guys

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in that stable that can go.

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I mean, obviously, Lawler is a former world champion in MLW.

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Richard Holiday's perennial, you know, upper mid Carter, a guy probably should be strapping

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the rocket to be quite frank.

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And then Zeta, who's cutting her teeth in MLW.

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So they got the featherweight division covered to and Bishop, who showed that he can go and

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quick little fact for anyone who isn't aware, like who's extra surprised about his teamwork.

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He's cut his teeth in the business as a member of a tag team.

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He's actually a regular member of a team called the RIP city shooters out East, primarily

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in the Philadelphia Pittsburgh area.

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So like the dude, the dude's got a tag team pedigree to him as well.

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In addition to being now the, you know, the primary muscle for WTF.

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But, but yeah, so I, so like I was more surprised how well Lawler and him work together as a

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team as well.

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But yeah, what like, what do you, what do you do for WTF because they're choking in

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these big match situations.

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And I mean, this is, this is late enough that I think I could spoil it, especially this

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early in the show, you know, spoiler alert, Richard holiday didn't win the world championship

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either.

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So like, you know, it's getting kind of hard to take, you know, WTF as an actual threat.

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Yeah.

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And which, you know, given the nature of the talents within WTF, like that's kind of a

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shame.

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But going to the match itself, like this is, this is the brawling and car crash stuff that

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I love.

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And so like, I was totally fine, like with the match itself, outside of like them having

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to build the contraptions, like I think, you know, everything, you know, you know, was

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just everything you'd want in a hard hitting like ringside brawl, especially, you know,

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I don't give the man flowers very often, but like the chop off between Manders and

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Bishop, like was just insane.

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Like I, like I am in, like, I don't know how they managed to pull it off without their

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chests totally looking like hamburgers, just standing there, just chopping.

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I know Bishop's chest looked pretty gnarly, but, but it wasn't the open, open wounds gnarly

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is like they were really kind of going to chop off.

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Yeah, they had the big chop off and then Manders ducked out and justice came back, it came

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in and continued, which I thought was hilarious.

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Yeah, I did, but I think with like the, the amount of plunder involved that it did allow

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Bishop to shine, I did think, especially with Manders getting dumped towards the end that

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the, that the titles were going to change.

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Cause I thought like, okay, here we go.

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Two on one, like here's where we go down.

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And that's all that really happened.

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Yeah.

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And then Loller got dumped pretty quick right after that too.

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We're like, Oh, so yeah.

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And, and then an auxiliary comment to where do we go from here?

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Like I, you know, assuming the second year crew keep those titles, like I, I, I'm interested

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at this face versus face matchup.

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Like that was like reason number two, why I thought WTF was going to win the titles in

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this match was because wasted youth or, you know, pure baby faces.

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And now you have, you know, the Dastardly Hill team with the titles to, you know, so

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they can play off of each other than that front.

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And it's not like a second year crew haven't had their share of face versus face matches.

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I mean, to be fair, they won the titles from a face versus face match against the new Simone

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SWAT team.

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So you know, so, you know, they'll fight anyone.

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It's fine.

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But I was just kind of curious about that as well.

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And so we ended up glossing over before I move along.

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I just want to throw out there like Zeta done got herself killed in that match too.

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Like what kind of man Larry it's a woman.

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And it's not even like a bodybuilder as woman like, like a step the lander like, yes, Zeta

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is a normal sized woman.

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And that's your, that's your boy, man.

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There's yeah, the big bad cowboys just running around, larring women.

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Hopefully, hopefully you'll take your revenge on him next week.

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There we go.

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Yeah.

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Sidebar on that, ladies and gentlemen, next, next weekend is the MLW confusion sponsored

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prestige rumble.

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That's the W pro bluegrass Coliseum marking the return home of the one called Manners.

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So going to have my revenge.

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That's right.

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He has merked me twice before this time.

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Well, last time you ran you off the premises.

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So no, that was the first time last time you gave me an autograph.

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Okay.

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Last time he said he was sorry and then gave me the worst autograph ever.

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Yeah.

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And you know, the first time he ran you off, wow, that's not a good look.

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Yeah, but he was drunk.

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I'll make sure he's sober this time.

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All right.

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I'm not going to beat up a drunk man.

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That's not a fair fight.

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That might be the only way you might be.

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I mean, you're drunk.

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Oh, you never know.

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So now wasn't this the next match, another hardcore match?

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Yeah.

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The next match, we, they jumped right into it as they're cleaning up, but it was the

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Taipei death match.

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I hate it.

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Between the former calling members Akira and Rikishan Page for the national open weight

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championship.

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Akira doesn't even wait.

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He just barges down there and he's like, I want Rikishan Page right now.

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And Rikishan Page is like, okay, I like bleeding and they come in half a match.

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No.

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I can't have two hardcore matches back to back like that.

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I get turned off quick and then this looks like a blot bath.

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I mean, there was blood everywhere.

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I mean, especially from Shane Page.

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I mean, this dude was just bleeding.

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I'm like that.

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I'm thinking to myself, this looks like the hand man page against trickling match from

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a couple of weeks ago up by AEW.

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I'm surprised.

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No of them started, you know, drinking their oil trousers, bloods like, give me a cup of

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your blood.

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I need you to take a couple of my blood and we'll drink it together.

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We say cheer and drink.

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But yeah, the only thing I like about this match was towards the ending when Kellan Han

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came out and joined the calling.

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And now the calling looks like a threat because of Callihan.

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Callihan being there gives the calling a better, you know, mastermind behind that.

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Since Raven's gone, Raven, you know, came in, started this group.

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We never saw him again, you know, after weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, never saw him

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again, then Delirious, Mendeleon got married and they're still in the honeymoon because

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nobody's seen them since, you know, so, and then it was just, the calling was just flapping

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around.

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Now you see Callihan who is a mastermind, statistic monster, you know, hopefully either

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being the leader or just kind of matching with the rest of the guys.

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So now they will really look like a threat now.

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That was the only part of the whole match that I liked.

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Yeah, yeah, I didn't mind the match, but then again, I have all four, the death match stuff.

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So like that, I didn't hear my feelings fun much on that one.

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My really, like the only thing I really complained about off of it was that, like, you couldn't

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tell that they, that their hand that they had glass on their tape.

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Like, what they should have done is done like beer bottles or some sort of color glass so

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you can see the shards on the tape.

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Like, I mean, we got enough close ups that, you know, like we got to see the glass on

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the tape, but like, it didn't have that visual pop.

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Like if you didn't, like, if you didn't already know this was a Taipei death match, you probably

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would have forgotten at least initially.

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And so like, yeah, that that that was just, I mean, that wasn't a big misstep.

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Like it was fine.

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One of the things that did kind of like, I don't want to say turn me off to it, but

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like the camera work in this match, comparatively speaking, it just wasn't quite as great.

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Like evidently, whomever the director was for this has not covered a lot of these sorts

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of matches because there were a handful of times where we blatantly caught people giggling

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themselves on camera.

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I can't remember the exact spot where Kira was cutting himself, but you could see him

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going at his forehead, whereas Ricky Shane Page was in an ankle lock and like the camera

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was like pretty darn close.

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You watching Ricky Shane Page like, no, no, cut away, focus on a Kira or come out or something.

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We're watching, we're watching to the night.

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We're watching them cut themselves.

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Like that that that is taking me out of like taking me that is suspending my disbelief.

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That is causing me to not suspend my disbelief anymore.

449
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Like I don't have a problem with people cutting themselves.

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Like that's that's expected in this, but it was just the fact that we're watching the

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dude actively do it.

452
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Yeah.

453
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Only thing was when Akira was down and he put the two chairs with the glass in the middle

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and Shane Page jumped through the glass right on on Akira.

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I thought that shit was crazy right there.

459
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Oh my God.

460
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Yeah.

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I was like, wow, I mean, I don't know this.

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I mean, I know the glasses crap, but still man, that was kind of crazy.

463
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You know, watching the other than that, that was like, only two times that I pop was that

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one and when Callahan came out.

465
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Now, see, that's one of those spots that like, oh, I hate just because I think because you

466
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,000
it's a shower and you can't protect you like you can't properly protect your eyes like

467
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000
with that.

468
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,360
And you know, and then like, oh, and glass that powders like that is horrible.

469
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Here, we'll get the TMI stuff when it comes to playing with glass and break the hat out

470
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,160
for this.

471
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000
I was in attendance of the King of the Death matches.

472
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
I know we mid-south believe it was 2009, I believe.

473
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
I can check that up later.

474
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
But we had a fans bring the weapons match.

475
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:32,320
And because I am a horrible person, I brought what I called a cotton maiden.

476
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,280
For this was just a T shirt that I coated with glue smashed a bunch of, well, because

477
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,640
I don't like cool drinks, a bunch of Mike's hard bottles, smashed them all up and glued

478
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,640
them to the shirt.

479
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,480
What I didn't realize was like, how like glass actually like slivers in that amount.

480
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,000
So like, I would do it and like a glass dust would like get my hand and then like my hand

481
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,760
would be sore for like the next three days as I'm trying to like get as my body started

482
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,560
to get the little glass splinter out that I couldn't even bloody see.

483
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,000
So like sometimes seeing that glass kind of stuff just like just getting in my hand like

484
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200
I'm not even taking it to the back or anything like I'm not a real worker or anything like

485
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,200
that.

486
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,360
I just like I'm going like, oh, this is stuck and now it's going to hurt me three days and

487
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,360
like Akira got showered with glass like all of his torso, ricocheting page, like jumped

488
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240
off, broke the glass and then landed in it.

489
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Like that part like, oh dear.

490
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960
That doesn't, that's too much for me.

491
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
I'm like, oh Lord, come on now.

492
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,640
But yeah, but to go go to your point of Callahan being back like this excites me for the calling

493
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,440
like I don't know how well he fits the, or we'll call it the original aesthetic for it.

494
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,640
But like he's going to, he's going to bring a new life to it.

495
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,960
One, he's going to be involved in creative.

496
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,400
And so like regardless of what, how you feel about Sammy Callahan in ring, like he's got

497
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:02,360
a good mind to him and he's very well respected for his creative output.

498
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,480
If you need examples for this, I mean, obviously you could check out impact where he's had

499
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,400
a big hand in, but he runs the wrestling revolver, pro wrestling revolver that alternates usually

500
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:18,640
between Des Moines, Iowa and Dayton, Ohio, but they do spot shows all around the country.

501
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
They're coming like pretty soon to Texas, I believe.

502
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,960
But like that is his promotion, that is his driving force.

503
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,040
And if you, and if you have the fight plus Triller subscription, you can watch it.

504
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,920
It's, you know, so, so, so it comes included in that if you, you know, so, so you don't

505
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,920
have to necessarily spend extra money if you've already got that.

506
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,040
But yeah, so I'm curious, like I'm glad to see like hopefully the calling will get like

507
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,320
a new life, like a life force to it because it's been just the Ricky Shane Page show really

508
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200
for two, ever since Raven left.

509
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,240
And you know, it hasn't done a whole lot, especially now that Akira's broken away.

510
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,000
We just, we're just left with disappearing members and Jeff Cannonball.

511
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
And what you guys, and masks.

512
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Yeah.

513
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,920
So hopefully this will kind of write the ship of where the calling's going or if nothing

514
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,280
else taken in a new sadistic twisted direction.

515
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Only one way to find out.

516
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,560
We just know that I just know that at least based on the social media Akira is not done

517
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,040
with everybody yet.

518
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,760
That's what he says.

519
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080
So we'll find out what happens next.

520
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,080
We shall.

521
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:33,600
But yeah, so we did get the brief announcement that NLW it's reload will be January 20th.

522
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,880
That's the next big event in there.

523
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,040
So just throw it out there because we did touch on it earlier.

524
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Following this is our popcorn match.

525
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,600
I'm going to call it just because of how short it was.

526
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:51,400
But Brett Ryan Goslin notorious BRG versus love, love Doug and a love is blind fold match.

527
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,480
Shake your head guessing two matches in a row and struck out.

528
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,680
I know that I've never understood this type, this specific match ever in any company that

529
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,760
I've seen this match happen.

530
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Like you can't see anything supposedly, but you're able to come out with two perfect

531
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
clotheslines at the same time.

532
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,200
You can't see anything.

533
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,800
You know, and then one gets to cheat for the mask off.

534
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960
So you can see what's going on.

535
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,400
I was guessing the win, but then love Doug comes out of nowhere and does his moves and

536
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,400
gets the win.

537
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Like what was the point of this match?

538
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Why you couldn't just have a regular wrestling match to something else, you know, like grab

539
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,600
the pole or something, you know, make it a real wrestling match.

540
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,080
But yeah, this was just the weirdest thing I ever seen.

541
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,240
I know they should have said this for the reload show and do it there instead of having

542
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,840
on this paper view here.

543
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,920
But yeah, I mean, he wasted time of two guys.

544
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,000
I'm trying to see how they go forward and wrestle and see if they have any good talent

545
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,040
because we already seen love Doug go a couple of times already, but I haven't seen much

546
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,040
of the other guys.

547
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,760
So yeah, I'm curious.

548
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,960
This is definitely on the ground for me.

549
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,720
I'm definitely interested in where they decided blindfold was the way to go for this match.

550
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:17,960
Like don't get wrong.

551
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Like I understand them not wanting to do it like another hardcore brawl because we just

552
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,680
come off like back to back.

553
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,920
So you need a palette cleanser of a match.

554
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Just have a regular match.

555
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,200
Yeah, like, I know regular match or, you know, if you're going to do something, you know,

556
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:41,080
maybe boot it from the show and let one of the other teams have another match.

557
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Yeah, you put a speculation.

558
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,480
If love Doug wins, he gets it.

559
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920
They were better.

560
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560
I will say that they at least kept the match short and sweet.

561
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,360
It was the shortest match of the night.

562
00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:00,000
And one thing that I really, I did really like was going into the ending where Goslin

563
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,960
lost Doug couldn't find him and he put the blindfold back on so he like legit couldn't

564
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,760
see Doug, but he made enough bloody noise that, you know, the dead could, could crawl

565
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,760
out of their coffin and go find him.

566
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,080
So like there was they actually did play that part.

567
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,040
I thought rather well is that he just made so much bloody noise like anybody anybody

568
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
could have caught you found him.

569
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,720
So like they made that work.

570
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,640
Yeah, like yes, the double clothesline spot.

571
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Like, okay, that that one, that was pretty tongue in cheek, but the but the finish I

572
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000
thought was actually very well done for a blindfold match.

573
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,280
I was just glad it was done.

574
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,640
But it was short and sweet.

575
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,800
And I felt like overall it was inoffensive.

576
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,960
So I think and I think it was met more as the bathroom palette cleanser match.

577
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,400
Yes, we had those big two.

578
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,560
We have those two hardcore brawls with a lot of stuff going on with it.

579
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,000
And then then up next we're going to have our dual main events plus a big announcement

580
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,160
for the World Heavyweight Championship.

581
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Go, you know, coming into the next show.

582
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Plus we actually got a big announcement after this as well of that.

583
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,320
Misty co is coming to coming to MLW.

584
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:21,280
So looks looks like he is going to have a go at promotion is Dorota, which Selena de

585
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Lloranta has no clue like how he showed up.

586
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,400
He didn't they didn't go through her.

587
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,400
So so we have this extra little like we were getting layers to this year onion as well.

588
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,760
And I don't know if I'm jumping the gun on it, but we might as well just go through it

589
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,760
all now anyway.

590
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:40,880
But yes, so Selena is supposed to have like all like the monopoly on bringing in Luchadores

591
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:48,280
to MLW and someone brought is bringing misty co in with that without her knowledge.

592
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,600
And then with the little package with it, there's also there's a little bit of a dissension

593
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,600
in the race.

594
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,080
So because Rocky Romero, a zoo cards like, Hey, you got a zoo car.

595
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,120
That's all you need to take out.

596
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,480
You know, take out a take out a pesky Luchador.

597
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,920
And Selena is like, Yes, I do have someone that can you take care of this.

598
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,920
Averno.

599
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Yes.

600
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,520
And Rocky's like, like what?

601
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Oh, no.

602
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,160
Well, I was excited for this for many reasons.

603
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:29,360
This right here is the beginning of the sprinkles of Cesar Durán making his comeback, hopefully

604
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,680
at the main show since it's going to be an aesthetic show.

605
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,800
So they're slowly dropping the clues of Cesar Durán coming in.

606
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,720
Now you get one of the biggest attractions in Mexico being mystical.

607
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,880
You know, and people, I don't know if people know and you should put your head on, you

608
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,720
know, mystical was always in CMLL.

609
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:54,720
And then he left.

610
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,200
Went to Dodory became Sin Cara.

611
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,240
And they had a different roster becomes mystical too.

612
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:09,160
And then after Sin Cara got released, he went back to mystical to Mexico where he became

613
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160
miss disease in the meantime.

614
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Once the guy who was mystical to left, he was able to get his crown back as the original

615
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,320
mystical again.

616
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Okay, I didn't know that part of it because I knew that I knew that there were two mysticos

617
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,320
Yes, I think we're running around.

618
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,880
But yes, he came back as miss miss disease.

619
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Yeah, but because he couldn't take up on the mantle because somebody had it.

620
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Once the guy left and went somewhere else, he was able to take the mantle back as the

621
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,360
original mystical son.

622
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,720
Now there's only one mystical there now, which is the original guy from the beginning back

623
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:49,880
in 2011 2010 whenever he was, you know, doing the mystical thing.

624
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,200
And which makes me happy.

625
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,560
And I haven't followed a cap.

626
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680
I haven't completely kept up with him.

627
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,960
But at one point he was considered like pound for bound one of the best wrestlers.

628
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Yes.

629
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,520
And if not the best wrestler in the world, he was at least the best high flyer.

630
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,840
And that's when he went to Dodory because the other like you said, all the hype was

631
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,200
on the more the best high flyers.

632
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,040
And then he became skin color.

633
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,080
And unfortunately it didn't sell in Dodory.

634
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:23,440
I don't for what reason, not on the why, but I think it's a combination of, I mean,

635
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920
some of this is rumor, like there is rumor.

636
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Part of the rumor is that he's got a terrible attitude.

637
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,520
And so like he wasn't willing to play a lot of ball with the WWE stuff.

638
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,600
That's just rumor conjection.

639
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,120
That's not opinion.

640
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:43,560
But two, like there is at least stylistically like a bit of a jump between traditional American

641
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,320
wrestling and lucha.

642
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,600
And like really, like there was only like, I don't know, like four or five guys in the

643
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,640
company who had been trained proper in lucha.

644
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,480
And one of them was Alberto Del Rio, who had no interest in working with him.

645
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,120
So like one of the guys who could lucha wasn't going to help the guy either.

646
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,880
And so it was kind of like, I think it was kind of a perfect storm of like, nobody knows

647
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,280
how to work like you do.

648
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,800
So you can't do the stuff you're good at.

649
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,640
And then he's also not willing to make any adaptations either is what basically what

650
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,640
I heard.

651
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Like he was dead set against learning any English, which is unfortunately some, if you're

652
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,680
going to go to WWE, unfortunately, you're going to have to learn at least a little bit

653
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,680
of English.

654
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,960
I mean, maybe not so much now because they've let students get Nakamura do whatever weird

655
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,720
things with his promos now, but like, in this case, not pretty good English anyway.

656
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:44,040
And even damage control with the girls in all Japanese, they're talking about Japanese

657
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
put a little English here and go back to Japanese.

658
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,840
I noticed that more and some of the girls who speak Spanish, the same thing.

659
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,240
They go back and forth between English and Spanish.

660
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,880
So I was like, okay, well, I guess now it doesn't really matter if you know the whole

661
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,680
language right now.

662
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Back then when McMahon was in charge, it was a different story.

663
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Oh yeah.

664
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,680
So McMahon and Kevin Dunn, like those are two of the most like weirdly xenophobic.

665
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,280
And both of those guys are, you know, one's gone and there was a lot to leave Kevin Dunn

666
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,280
so.

667
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,280
Yeah.

668
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,880
So yeah, so yeah, so we got a lot of stuff going on with promotion is Dorado too.

669
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,480
And like I am down for it, especially if it involves the return to Cesar Durand, mostly

670
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,320
because it will make my wife happy.

671
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Because it's one of the few things in wrestling that makes my wife happy.

672
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,920
She loves herself.

673
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,680
She loves Cesar Durand and Dario Cueto.

674
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Yes, Dario, yes.

675
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Yeah, but Mystical coming here.

676
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,280
I mean, the original Mystical coming to the States and being the Alma W for CML, that's

677
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,880
going to be huge.

678
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,880
And is that also in failure in New York?

679
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,800
That one, I don't remember.

680
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,680
I mean, I don't know if it was.

681
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
I wrote down at Superfight, but I don't remember where Superfight is.

682
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320
I just wrote down at Superfight in my original.

683
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,320
I can't wait to the least failure, man.

684
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520
I thought it was a failure.

685
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880
And it looks like they're going to be doing that at least quasi long term.

686
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,080
They're doing it in New York.

687
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,320
They're going back to Florida and then they're going to Chicago.

688
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,320
Yes.

689
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,240
So hopefully they're going to be out of this area.

690
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,200
And I'm surprised they don't have anything set up for WrestleMania weekend.

691
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,680
Yeah, I feel like that's a missed opportunity because everyone in their even promotions

692
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:26,640
that don't have a base, like anywhere near WrestleMania, like one of the quasi local

693
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:34,240
promotions, like that's like 45 minutes from my house that's like they run at a town or

694
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:40,240
town of like, you know, a couple thousand people, maybe 10,000 max.

695
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:43,240
And they don't travel like more than 50 miles.

696
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,240
That's their territory, 50 miles.

697
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,480
Like they go to wherever WrestleMania is going to be at in half.

698
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,680
So they'll be there?

699
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,840
I don't know about this year.

700
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,560
I haven't paid that much attention and they haven't run quite as many shows, especially

701
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,680
now that Dreamwave, which runs pretty close by is back and Dreamwave is kind of one of

702
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,080
the one of the bigger Super Indies around anymore.

703
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:14,160
But yeah, so yeah, so, so super fine, right?

704
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Yeah, super fight.

705
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,600
I just see what we got.

706
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,480
As I'm rattling on incoherently muffins doing the research.

707
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Yes, they'll be fairly again.

708
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,080
We're going to be fairly.

709
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,520
So then the one in March is going to be in New York.

710
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,360
Super, super fight will be great and all, but in terms of big gimmick fights, War Chambers

711
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,400
where I'm at man, that that and Battle Riot to my favorite MLW events, but that's neither

712
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,400
here nor there.

713
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,120
That's that's stalling for time that we don't need to because we're not on TV or anything

714
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,120
like that.

715
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,720
So whatever we can move along, but Mysticos coming in.

716
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:47,720
It's going to be great.

717
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:48,720
Avernos coming in.

718
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:49,720
It's going to be great.

719
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,480
What also could be great.

720
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:58,240
Our part one of our dual main events, Richard Holiday of WTF, making his in ring return

721
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,480
to MLW looking to take the title from the Ball My A5 Club and Alex Kane.

722
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
What do you think?

723
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,840
I was surprised.

724
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,840
I was surprised.

725
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,840
This was the second and not the last big event.

726
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,200
The match of the night.

727
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,240
I was really surprised about that.

728
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,240
It should have been.

729
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,480
I was surprised.

730
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,880
But yeah, I don't know.

731
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160
I'm a bit pen in that if you have a world title fight that like that should be your proper

732
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,360
main event unless you're doing some stupid little lights out thing that doesn't count

733
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,520
through the records and is not sanctioned by the company.

734
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,680
I feel like your, your world title, it should be the main attraction.

735
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,840
And like I, I will roll my eyes right now.

736
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,480
I get why they didn't, but it should have been, especially with a return of like an

737
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,760
MLW product in terms of Richard Holiday.

738
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,760
Yes.

739
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,760
Like I thought, I thought the match, the match didn't have quite the big fight feel.

740
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:00,120
Some of Kane's other matches, I thought, but it was good.

741
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:05,480
I really thought that holiday was going to get it a couple of times, especially when

742
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,440
he's hitting the stock market crash in the 2008.

743
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,600
And then like, and then they lost me at like really towards the end, they kind of lost

744
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,440
me when they started doing all the interference and ref bump stuff because like that stuff

745
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,760
wasn't needed at all, especially if you're going to have Kane's, if you're going to

746
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,520
have Kane retain, like you really didn't need to do all that stuff.

747
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,480
And the funny thing is you could see the ref bump coming.

748
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,320
You could see the way the ref was going.

749
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200
And I'm thinking to God, please not a rep bump.

750
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,200
You don't need this now.

751
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,440
And boom, I'm like, come on, dude.

752
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,720
And he's knocked out for the next five minutes, which wasn't even that bad of a hit at that.

753
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,800
And I'm thinking, you don't need that now.

754
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,800
I mean, and you could see it like, it gave me setup for the ref bump.

755
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,360
But I still was, no, not now.

756
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,320
And I really, really thought holiday was going to win this match.

757
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,360
So my question that I have now, and I said this early and I'm going to ask you, where

758
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,800
does WTF go from here?

759
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Because Richa Holland is going to be here for a while, is he just come in just for this?

760
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,680
And then he's going to leave now again?

761
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,800
Or that was my questions that I had afterwards.

762
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:26,040
So I'm going to ask you, where does WTF go from here when both of their matches for

763
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600
titles they lost?

764
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Yeah.

765
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,800
Like, I honestly like really don't know what you do with WTF at this point.

766
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Like they have continued outside of some of Cardona's victories.

767
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,640
Like they've really just kind of like choked time after time.

768
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,840
And like, yes, some of the matches are more, we'll say for show, like Tom Lawler's Satoshi

769
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,840
Kojima match.

770
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,320
Like that was just there to like bring Kojima back.

771
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,200
And Lawler was kind of a good guy to do it.

772
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,000
It told a good story in ring and then like out of the ring as well.

773
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,080
But like they've had all this opportunity, especially with Saint Laurent being the promoter,

774
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:11,040
the wheeler and dealer of professional wrestling and like his guys like aren't taking over

775
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,040
anything.

776
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,400
The only thing it's being taken over is bottles of champagne by filthy Tom and chalices of

777
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,400
M&Ms by MSL.

778
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,040
Like, like, I don't like they're kind of a joke now.

779
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,680
And that makes me sad to say because they have this killer roster of folk like throughout

780
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,680
the time.

781
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Like when the party started, it was, you know, David Boyce Smith Jr., which obviously is

782
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,480
out with injury.

783
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,800
You know, Gene Snitzky was there for, you know, like one show and then F'd off.

784
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920
But like those are two hardcore guys.

785
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,160
They brought in Matt Cordona, who outside of his feud with Mans Warner, like couldn't

786
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,720
bring home the title.

787
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,160
And now it looks like he's done with the company, which he got, you know, you know, he did good

788
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,640
for the length he was there.

789
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,480
No complaints on that.

790
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,160
You know, Hammers, Hammers Hammer returned and turned on everyone to join, uh, join WTF.

791
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,720
And now he's gone again.

792
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:04,720
Yes.

793
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:05,720
You know, they brought in holiday.

794
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:06,720
Yeah.

795
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,920
You know, I assume holiday is going to be here for a bit, but like what, you know, what

796
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,240
again, like where, where do you go with these things?

797
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:17,880
And like, I really just, like, I really just don't know if they're just kind of there for

798
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,320
like these weird comedy segments with MSL.

799
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,440
And then like they just let their guys go in and have bangers of matches.

800
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,880
And then like they let Josh Bishop run at a wreck every once.

801
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,600
So at least they can stand tall after they lose.

802
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,920
Like I really, I really don't know.

803
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,440
And it, and it, and it, you know, as a wrestling fan, it makes me sad because like as much

804
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,800
as MLW does love their, you know, we're taking over heel stables.

805
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,240
Like you, you actually have a roster of like awesome guys within this stable.

806
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:55,640
It's not like no offense and truly intended to the calling, but like the calling was running

807
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,800
rough shot with less, with, with lesser profile talent.

808
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,800
Yeah.

809
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,800
Yeah.

810
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Oh, in addition to all the masked beatings backstage and all that, not even counting that

811
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:17,080
stuff, like, like the calling held most of the titles in MLW at one point and WTF who

812
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:25,120
has a, who had at various points, two former MLW champions on their roster can't do anything.

813
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,200
I don't know, man.

814
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,760
I really don't know what you do from there.

815
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,440
If it's just kind of there to so MSL can have a few, few little segments backstage or not.

816
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,200
I don't know.

817
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,080
And the thing is they keep getting these shots in the arm.

818
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Like they keep getting these metaphorical Sammy Callaghan's if we're going to use the

819
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,960
calling as an example.

820
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Cause again, they, they, they had a shot in the arm with Matt Cardona.

821
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
They had a shot in the arm with Hammerstone.

822
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,840
They had another shot in the arm with Holiday.

823
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:59,000
And now they have a shower and shot in the arm now with the bro guy.

824
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Yeah.

825
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Bishop.

826
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
No, no, no.

827
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
The main thing guy with.

828
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Oh.

829
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Oh.

830
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Who wrestled them.

831
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Mike Riddle.

832
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,960
Well, but is he, is he a WTF guy though?

833
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Or is he just a.

834
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,960
I don't know what I'm saying.

835
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,080
You know, the company is getting a shot in the arm though.

836
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Oh yeah.

837
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,560
No, no, the company, like despite my misgivings about WTF, like MLW is, is it a, is it a

838
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,680
WTF is on the upswing in general?

839
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,680
Yeah.

840
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,840
And you know, I've trained up until this past week, you know, I've been, you know,

841
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,600
waving the banner of like, Hey, everyone, MLW is getting good again.

842
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,040
Like you guys got to check it out.

843
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,960
But yeah, so like, where we go with WTF?

844
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,560
Like I have no bloody idea.

845
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,560
I really don't just because.

846
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,400
Well, we can segue to the main event and let's, let's go without what was.

847
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Yeah, that's about, about all I can say about it.

848
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,840
Like I don't, I don't know where to go with it.

849
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
So we have our main event of the evening.

850
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,280
And I'm going to talk, I'm going to talk first, if you don't mind muffins about it,

851
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,840
because what I am going to say is going to, if you allow it to stay in the show is going

852
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,400
to be a massive downer and we need someone to pick, pick things up a bit after I'm done

853
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,400
talking.

854
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:24,320
So our true main event was the ultimate bro Matt Riddle taking on Jacob Fattu.

855
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,760
I'm not, I, okay, I am going to dwell on this.

856
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,840
I am going to dwell on this, but I'm not going to talk about the match really.

857
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,360
So I'm going to start the party with it upset me on multiple levels that Jacob Fattu took

858
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,360
the L here.

859
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,360
Yes.

860
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Because they had just started getting Jacob Fattu back on track after he was eating a

861
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,280
bunch of losses and kind of losing some of his monster aura.

862
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Just for him to come just for him to tap out to the new flavor of the week.

863
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,960
I like that.

864
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:02,560
Like you built him back up just to feed him to someone else when he could be like a main

865
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,520
event staple for, you know, for however long you need him to be, however long he's going

866
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,520
to stay with the company.

867
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,320
And you just like big picture, he will probably be fine from this, but it upset me that they

868
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,320
went through.

869
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,000
They used him to send hammer home.

870
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,280
They'll send him away just for him to be merked.

871
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:27,200
The next show like that upset me, but not as much as the whole concept of the match itself.

872
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,840
I am not going to touch.

873
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:35,760
I am going to lightly touch on the allegations that have been brought forth to Matt Riddle.

874
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,300
But what really upset me, not just as a wrestling fan, but as a person who actually bothers

875
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:45,040
to care about other people is the commentary for that match.

876
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,400
Matt Stryker did no services to M for MLW.

877
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,120
And like this is the thing, like regardless of how what you thought of the show, what

878
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:00,360
people are talking about is not, you know, Alex can retaining the return of Richard Holiday,

879
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,360
the bloodbath.

880
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,000
They're talking about Matt Stryker flat out defending someone who was accused of domestic

881
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:14,760
violence, sexual assault, hard drug use and whatever went on with TSA.

882
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,520
Like, and not just like, Oh, like, I'm going to praise him because he's in our company.

883
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:26,360
Like he flat out and I have a direct one direct quote here right here is let's talk

884
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,680
about the elephant in the room and the court of public opinion would like to see Jacob

885
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Fattu slap the taste out of Matt Riddle's mouth.

886
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,480
But the court of public opinion does not convict.

887
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,480
I'm sorry.

888
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,480
I know it's the world in which we live and it's not the case.

889
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Like there was no reason for that statement.

890
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:47,320
And then there was no reason to like flat out, he flat out said, I don't care what the

891
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,160
man has done.

892
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Why would you ever let him go?

893
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:59,400
Dude, the guy like again, these are allegations not in court.

894
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Dude was accused of sexual assault.

895
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,480
And then again, his last months in the WWE like brought kind of a black eye to the company.

896
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,840
Like why would you bring this stuff out in the open, especially in the main event in

897
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,920
a card where people are going to have eyes specifically on this match because either

898
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:22,320
a they want to see that man or B they want to see the dumpster fire that MLW is known

899
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:32,600
to be and they an MLW with the ladder MLW has like either and Matt Stryker either with

900
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:40,320
MLW's permission said those things or B he went out on his own and like something like

901
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,880
he gave a black eye for the company.

902
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,040
I am not going to I'm not going to be a guy that's going to call for Matt Stryker's job.

903
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,840
I'm not going to do that.

904
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,560
But he gave a very visible black eye for the company.

905
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,040
And like as a person like this upsets me to like put someone accused of the things that

906
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:06,080
McRiddle has done where he's you know what he's done and like I can't I can't defend

907
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,080
things like that.

908
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,680
The problem that's the problem is I can't defend that I can't be like hey guys go check

909
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,480
out MLW when Matt Stryker's on I are going I don't care what that man's done.

910
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:23,400
Yeah don't let someone like Matt Riddle go like dude.

911
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:29,840
If you look at the statistics I would say you know at least half of the women you know

912
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,480
have been sexually harassed or sexually assaulted.

913
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,480
And this is how this is what you're going to do with a guy who's been blatantly accused

914
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,480
of it.

915
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,280
And then just the kicker the kicker to all this is within 12 hours of Matt Stryker doing

916
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,280
this.

917
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:51,680
He's had at least one accusation of sexual misconduct.

918
00:55:51,680 --> 00:56:00,520
I want MLW to do better because I can't like as a fan I can't I can't it's hard for me

919
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:09,280
to defend MLW as a promotion that's getting itself right when when the commentary is how

920
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,280
it was.

921
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:17,880
So like even ignoring the Matt Riddle part of the match itself just basically commentary

922
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:24,760
just flat out saying we don't care what the man may have done you got to get someone like

923
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,000
him.

924
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,120
And like and I'm hoping that's just Stryker going out on himself and he wasn't fed those

925
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,800
lines because man that's a hard look.

926
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And like I really like I do what I can and I'll segue out of this and you can talk about

927
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,200
the match or however you want to rebuttal it is.

928
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:52,360
But like it's it is very it is very hard to continue to support the company when when

929
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,600
things like this are allowed to happen.

930
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,920
And I'm I and like you guys know on this show I am the guy I don't necessarily sugarcoat

931
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,720
things but I try to see the silver lining even in like even the blindfold match you

932
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:06,720
hated the blindfold match.

933
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:11,400
I'm like hey well it was short and sweet it was a popcorn match you know oh I don't like

934
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,400
all the blood.

935
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,400
But you know at least we got Sammy Callahan out of it or you know for what it was it was

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,040
pretty good.

937
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,480
I can't defend this I can't find the silver lining in this to tell you to go look at this

938
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,960
I can't do that in this situation and I'm not going to call for anybody's job I'm not

939
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:34,560
going to you know metaphorically cancel anyone that I haven't already threatened to do for

940
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:47,160
but it this really like real talk you you muffins the viewer you know court Bauer if you happen

941
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,080
to be watching this I know some ML guys MLW guys do you check this out.

942
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:58,280
It really made me rethink my fandom.

943
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:04,360
I apologize for bringing the show down but if the only thing people are talking about

944
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,240
out of Kings of Coliseum is Matt Stryker's commentary during the main event I think we've

945
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,240
done something wrong.

946
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,640
Well you know like we said before this is the real show we talk about stuff and we are

947
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:26,760
all on point of views and our opinions and we say what we feel and you say what you felt

948
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,840
and I applaud you for doing that.

949
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:37,880
There's definitely no silver lining here whatsoever all I can say is Stryker said what he said

950
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,640
he went apologized later on on Twitter and then he retracted it.

951
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:50,920
Yeah of course you know what was gotta happen is court Bauer had to need to stick a stand

952
00:58:50,920 --> 00:59:00,040
now and suspend him you know for a month or a while or something just to say we acknowledge

953
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,040
it I think.

954
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,360
It's likely because he hasn't said anything yet or I haven't seen anything being acknowledged

955
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:12,480
by him but you know say something like the views of my Stryker are not ours he was not

956
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:20,160
fed this type of lines he went you know he was doing his commentary job and he was tone

957
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,280
deaf and just said what he thought needed to be said to bring more light to the match

958
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,760
I don't know I'm just going to share.

959
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,920
And I think that is something else that doesn't a good look for MLW is the fact that they

960
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,680
have remained completely silent with it and I know you shouldn't always feed the neck

961
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:46,240
beards but when the neck beards are going after something very specific something very

962
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:53,200
specific that was done on air I think you do need to address this.

963
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Even in like yes people who poo it but at least just a statement that you acknowledge

964
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,080
its existence.

965
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,920
Yeah court Bauer needs to come out with a statement say something to this do that he

966
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,440
needs to get suspended he needs to get sent to a class you know diversity class you know

967
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:17,320
such a harassment class they do that stuff you know have them do something say something

968
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:23,000
to kind of clear this up and kind of fix this mess because right now it's a black eye like

969
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,480
you mentioned for the company like how are we supposed to follow a company when you have

970
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:34,920
this guy one guy going rogue because either you fathom the lines or he went rogue or they

971
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,600
people are going to go well how do you let somebody go rogue just say whatever he wants

972
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:45,400
to say on on a televised show or if he got fathom lines how can you let somebody feed

973
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:54,680
him this kind of lies so either or somebody's guilty of either or so regarding of what happens

974
01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:01,440
you know we do have to talk about the match the match was a great match I love the match

975
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:07,320
I was surprised by the ending I wasn't expecting Rito to win especially not choking out if

976
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,520
I do you know but it is what it is and now we'll see what happens I mean it's really

977
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:19,240
going to be here next month are they going to cut ties with him now after this happens

978
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,000
is poor Bahra going to come out say something or he's just going to let it blow over you

979
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:32,280
know something used to happen to make us fans feel better about the company that we are talking

980
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:38,040
about because we can see here and talk about the company that we love to watch and try

981
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,920
to defend it when something so brilliantly happened on their main arena we have to see

982
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:49,800
your pretend like you didn't happen because if they happen it's all over the place so

983
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:55,880
something definitely needs to happen with with max striker or something with Rito you know

984
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,920
he needs to get suspended even though it's not Rito's fault I'm not you know yeah and

985
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:04,480
I will this is about as close to the defense I'll come out it like this one has nothing

986
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,440
to do like has nothing to do with Matt Riddle do I think Matt Riddle was a good signing

987
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:14,920
no I don't but he's here now and there's no point in like retroactively punishing him

988
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:21,520
for that like I'm not happy with it I'm handling it in my own way but like Matt striker is where

989
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:28,800
that's what we put on our you know put on our societal god you know headphones and just

990
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:34,520
chose to go like I didn't hear anything I am well we all heard it because we all cringe

991
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,800
when we heard it I'm like if you say that no I didn't say that and as I said like that

992
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:44,920
was like that was the only thing the mainstream fans talked about after that show they didn't

993
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:52,200
talk about any of the matches they just talk they talked about Matt Riddle is getting is

994
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:59,680
getting the eyes for the world reasons yeah and the problem is a lot of people are then

995
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:05,880
saying like basically I told you show so that MLW has always been a trash fire and here it

996
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,040
is again and the sad thing is I have to sit like in this situation I have to sit here

997
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,960
and just go and I agree I can't I can't argue with you bro like you know up until this point

998
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,480
like I'd be like no dude like yeah you can say whatever you want but things are on upswing

999
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:26,080
like the matches are amazing like they're they're turned a corner with bringing XYZ and here

1000
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:31,960
but yeah all I have to say is and I'm gonna be I'm gonna take the broom and I'm gonna

1001
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:40,200
be the bad guy now of what you said and me being the bad guy is saying Matt Riddle all

1002
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:46,920
the stuff that has happened has been allegations he hasn't been like you know he's been accused

1003
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:53,640
of stuff he hasn't been you know charged for anything he hasn't been arrested for anything

1004
01:03:53,640 --> 01:04:01,040
okay you know it's all his work against her word we saw one video of what happened with

1005
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:10,840
a TSA incident which was the last straw with WWE but WWE still have on the contract when

1006
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,440
all the allegations were going on yeah you know the suspended home the suspended but

1007
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,320
that he wasn't being shown for a while you know he came in with an injury in the meantime

1008
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,040
where all the stuff was being done and once everything died down he got brought back like

1009
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,760
nothing ever happened so and he got more over he got more over for a while because of it

1010
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:38,600
it's not because of it so yeah then again as the case nothing has come out of allegations

1011
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,400
and the TSA thing was the last straw yeah and as I said at this point at this point

1012
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:50,600
like you've already brought him in like the black eye is not is not on Riddle himself

1013
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:57,240
and really the and the really the outrage was on strike a striker and his comments basically

1014
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,880
sweeping everything trying to like publicly sweep everything under the rug you know what's

1015
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:08,160
going to happen now if he got fagalized or he went on his own is gonna fall on striker

1016
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:15,120
period so something has to be done with striker or or or or or barber has to come out with

1017
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:20,920
something I say you know he can't let this just sit by and let a simmer anymore he has

1018
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:26,360
to come out with some I understand what happened but I need a time to think and you know through

1019
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,760
the process talk to our lawyers and stuff like that and make some kind of statement

1020
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:37,200
and go from there but he just he cannot not do anything he has to do the silence is just

1021
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,280
as damning as letting striker go off like that.

1022
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:46,320
He needs to do something he just can't let it just well I'm gonna let time just take

1023
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,240
it and see what happens.

1024
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,880
WEE was also guilty because they kept them on the roster through all this stuff they

1025
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:59,160
the same thing with the double tin dream when all the allegations stuff came out they kept

1026
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:04,800
them there for a while and you know told they finally suspended him and fired him because

1027
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:11,960
they you know he would for other things essentially yeah and and again and I guess here's my equivalent

1028
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:17,200
of civil a silver lining but my civil lining is actually bringing everybody else down to

1029
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:23,480
the process like if we are going to look again okay this is my this is closer to a broad

1030
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,440
statement that wrestling just needs to be cleaned out in general but if we're going to

1031
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,440
look at people who've had serious allegations of sexual misconduct pretty much every major

1032
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:39,760
company in America has had some is currently employing someone with varying degrees of

1033
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,320
accusations against them you know whether it's the WWE which they had they had dream

1034
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,320
they had this riddle which they eventually let them go they had a totally dismantle

1035
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:56,920
yeah but like but like but we over look over like AEW who hired Ric Flair after all the

1036
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,640
things that had come out about flair.

1037
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:07,000
Darby Allen was still is still very well pushed given his allegations you know New Japan like

1038
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,600
they really don't care about that kind of stuff because they allow the well they signed

1039
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:16,320
riddle but but they also allowed Chase Owens and Michael Elgin only got fired over there

1040
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,920
because he got he was he got caught stealing stuff.

1041
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,240
Yeah stealing is the problem.

1042
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,680
They didn't care about that stuff.

1043
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:29,360
So I mean again like I've hijacked it and for the purposes of this rant the rant is

1044
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:36,840
surprisingly not it's about riddle but the outrage is not from riddle for riddle himself

1045
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,800
that that is how I will clarify the statement and that is about as close to a silver lining

1046
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,400
as we're going to get out of this situation.

1047
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,840
Yes but but I think I think we brought things down enough and we've kind of beaten a dead

1048
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,880
horse at this time like so I maybe.

1049
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,760
I will promise to try to do better in the future.

1050
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,960
No I know no promises there.

1051
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:03,440
I will if something hits my serious button like I will continue to have the serious talk

1052
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,680
about it but that.

1053
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:12,200
You spoke about holding that bother you and you were genuine with what you said and everything

1054
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,840
that you said you know it no one can say anything like oh you know this guy is always talking

1055
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,840
crap about it.

1056
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,320
He's talking about something that bother you and you went and said what you said that's

1057
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,320
fine.

1058
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,320
That's what we do here.

1059
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,360
And there's you know there's there's chunks of things that I can call that are part of

1060
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:34,000
a character or an online persona but like that like that we had we had to drop the current

1061
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:40,080
for that one ladies and gentlemen and you know so here's a good segue into the socials.

1062
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:46,060
So you know whether you agree with us disagree with us let us know hit you know go in the

1063
01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:51,520
comment section and let us know what an idiot I am or no you're a great social justice warrior

1064
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,640
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1065
01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,360
I mean at the Nova of Cass Urban, Urban Russell NW you know of course also hit the like and

1066
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,800
subscribe button over here as well get those notes on so you know whatever we happen to

1067
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:12,760
drop a new episode you know we are I said all the socials we have merch hidden away

1068
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,000
somewhere in the links as well check out old episodes.

1069
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,600
We got the MLW Confusion podcast that drops every Friday regardless of how much stuff

1070
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,720
MLW actually throws out during the week.

1071
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Last week you got a free preview of the at home dot exe podcast which is usually Patreon

1072
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:35,280
exclusive muffins has got got 10 pounds of gold you still is still rocking that now that

1073
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,280
you're off.

1074
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,280
Yes.

1075
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,280
Holiday break.

1076
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,280
Next week is still coming.

1077
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,280
Yep.

1078
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,960
I'm bringing that back at you a lot of stuff to consume whether it's here on the YouTube

1079
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,840
whether it's wherever you get your podcasts.

1080
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:55,360
Twitter I'm on threads I'm on Blue Sky now you know muffins is on Twitter all that sort

1081
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,480
of good stuff so yeah thank you guys for listening to us right along in here at least

1082
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:07,120
for the last hour we do appreciate it and we will catch you all next time.

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Bye for now.

