1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:28,100 What's good everyone, I'm Rob Camer, host of the MLW Confusion podcast. 2 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:32,640 With me is the beauty and brains behind the Urban Wrestling Network. 3 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,640 Muffins Martinez. 4 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Definitely not beauty and definitely no brains. 5 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Modest is all get out. 6 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Yeah, all four two on that one. 7 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,920 No, I thought I'd live my life. 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Oh, for insert, whatever. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,760 Except for whichever I never say it was a never said never. 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,160 I hit all the got was six and oh four. 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,800 It's the only time in my life that I've got a winning record. 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Anyway, onto proper business. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:06,480 MLW Fusion 187 the fallout from slaughterhouse. 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,520 They packed in a lot of information in a relatively short period of time. 15 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,160 A TV short will call it 40, you know, 45 minutes, but like balls to the wall, like nonstop, 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,680 just information progressing, progressing things, giving us tidbits for the future and 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,200 all that sort of good stuff. 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,160 So jumping right into things are opening contest, which is a sentimental favorite of 19 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,280 mine. 20 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Love Doug and Ichiban. 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,280 What'd you think muffins? 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Well, I know I know lie. 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,000 I'll be honest. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,560 I actually love this match. 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,120 I actually saw love Doug actually become a wrestler. 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:50,760 It's like to this point, I haven't really seen him do that much offense on anyone before. 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,880 So like, you know, he comes from the NDS, so I've never knew much about him. 28 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,840 So this match here really showcased what he's able and capable of doing if they give him 29 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,320 a chance to actually go out there and say, okay, go out here and just go crazy and have 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,320 fun. 31 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,680 But the Ichiban, I mean, this dude was like nonstop. 32 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,520 I want to say why he's like five and oh now six and oh, yeah, he got drafted. 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,160 So the dude keeps looking better and better and that one and the maneuver that he does 34 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,640 as a finisher still looks weird. 35 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:29,880 But last night actually kind of saw how he actually is supposed to hit it. 36 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,240 He's like Doug Good. 37 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Yeah. 38 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,400 But yeah, man, but I was really, really impressed with love Doug, man. 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Like really, he really showed out. 40 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,920 I mean, a lot of offense, a lot of stuff that he could do that I didn't see before and I 41 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:44,000 didn't know he could do. 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,800 So I'm looking forward to his next match and see if they actually give him the opportunity 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 to actually spam more and grow more. 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,360 But yeah, I was very impressed with both and I love the match from the beginning to the 45 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,360 end. 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,520 I love the whole match. 47 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Yeah. 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,520 And to go with your point, Matt Stryker, even on commentary seemed like surprised that Doug 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,520 could go. 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,520 I can't remember. 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,840 I didn't write down like the phrase he used, but he was just like, that's it. 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Yeah. 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,600 The boy has won me over. 54 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,320 And he's earned his stripes or whatever and whatever metaphors we want to use for it. 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:24,240 So like, yeah, whether that was real emotion or Stryker just doing a good job at his job, 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,440 you know, who knows. 57 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:32,320 But Doug definitely got the opportunity to show his value to MLW both as a character 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 before and after the match at their little vignettes. 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:41,800 And then during the match itself with Ichiban, who obviously at least low key MLW is kind 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,000 of putting the ball behind, especially for the middleweight division, because he has 61 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,440 gone, you know, four or five, maybe six and I didn't know we're going to play stats. 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,360 There was a, yeah, I had my phone right next to me and breakout cage match or whatever. 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,760 But yeah, he is at least functionally undefeated in MLW, at least the singles competition. 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,800 The match, I guess, had a stipulation whoever won will get a shot at the middleweight. 65 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Yeah. 66 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Okay. 67 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,760 So the middleweight title, which I guess now is the one that's held by a rocker. 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Romero. 69 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,800 So yeah, so I'm looking forward to see that if that happens at the next pay-per-view in 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,920 November where Ichiban will get that shot there. 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,560 That'll be definitely be a nice match if it does happen at the next show. 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,800 I wish they will actually talk to Ichiban at least in one of these interviews that he 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,240 wins, you know, nothing from the man. 74 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:41,680 Well, I think part of his gimmick is that he know Abla English or whatever the Japanese 75 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,680 equivalent of that is. 76 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:49,800 My Japanese, my Japanese is mostly limited to it's finished and that's about it. 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,320 But yeah, I would like to see like some sort of vignette for Ichiban. 78 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,840 Like even if we don't get like a live mic with him, we can get like a training montage. 79 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:04,680 Like we could just see him meditating in the dojo and then, you know, Rocky style montage 80 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,680 of him just training. 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Yeah. 82 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,680 It could help establish his character. 83 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Yeah, we got to see Love Doug, you know, get an interview right after the match after he 84 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,680 lost and I'm like, well, since when did this start interviewing people who lose? 85 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,680 When it was the storyline. 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Yeah. 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,680 Yeah. 88 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,480 And he got a little note or car from a legend. 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Becca's backup dancers. 90 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,760 He said he doesn't kiss and tell so we don't know exactly what was given to him or what 91 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:40,120 does the car say, but it said that Becca will be coming in to watch one of his upcoming matches. 92 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,120 So even though we know she's in house arrest right now, I don't know when is that going 93 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,120 to happen? 94 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:52,200 So yeah, that part interested me that he said that she was coming to watch his match considering 95 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,600 she she's on house arrest and forbidden from being like out in public by her record label 96 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,600 as well. 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,360 So but at least at least they're keeping it going. 98 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,040 And, you know, love love love Doug can stand. 99 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Well, both competitors really just continue to shine. 100 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Doug kind of defying expectations for people who don't know who he really know who he is 101 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,240 and then each bond showing, you know, his worth in the ring, just in general, like being 102 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 kind of the sleeper hit of the draft. 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Moving on from here, the next thing I have is mildly important and we don't have to spend 104 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,240 too much time on it. 105 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Tom Lawler basically announced that he is back with well, not MLW, he signed on with 106 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 the World Titan Federation. 107 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,080 But the most important thing is he did basically say that he's going to be he is back with 108 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,400 the company and that Slaughterhouse was not a one shot. 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,600 And I personally love Tom Lawler. 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,760 So like, you know, you can, you know, put him wherever, you know, whatever stable you 111 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,600 want or have him be on his own, and I am going to either, you know, cheer for him overtly, 112 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,600 if I'm supposed to you, or just kind of golf collapse, you know, while yelling boo, just 113 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,560 because, you know, Tom Lawler is kind of one of the complete packages in terms of character 114 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,560 work and inring action too. 115 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:16,000 And I will never not pop for his a jort strip tease with the Jorts and then revealing a pair 116 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,360 of tights that are colored like Jorts. 117 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,320 But yeah, so he is an official member of the World Titan Federation, very upset that MLW 118 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,600 has gotten into bed with Don King. 119 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,320 And not that he's the only one. 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,920 He's just the only one who's got a, you know, a mic in front of him on MLW television saying 121 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,680 it unlike us who, you know, are just neckbearding on the internet. 122 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,920 But yeah, short term, like I'm excited to see Tom. 123 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,920 For sure. 124 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,760 You know, and also to like look, look into him, you know, he has a MMA background, 11, 125 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:57,080 eight and one as MMA, but it's all from the mid 2000s to 2010 was when he was accumulating 126 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,080 that. 127 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:04,480 So you, you see how he used to be a fighter and then transitioned into wrestling. 128 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,680 And I remember watching his last fight, I want to say last year, I want to say in one 129 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:17,440 of those PPL, um, um, fights where he actually won and then took off his boots or gloves 130 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,760 and left them in the middle of the ring. 131 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,480 So that was it for his career. 132 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,440 So, you know, I would have loved to see him when he was in his prime fighting. 133 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,920 And then you find out about this stuff later on years later. 134 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,920 So, okay. 135 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,280 He was one of the guys that was there in the beginning of the USC's MMA stuff. 136 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,280 So that was always good to find out later on that he was one of those guys that was 137 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,560 pivotal for USC. 138 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,600 And then he transitioned into wrestling. 139 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,200 So that was always good to know. 140 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Like I said, I wish I would have saw him when he was in his prime as a fighter, but now 141 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,760 we get him out. 142 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,840 Now we get him at MLW on a full-time basis for maybe another year or two years. 143 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,960 So I'm happy about that. 144 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Exactly. 145 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,480 And just to extrapolate on your point of his MMA career, Tom Lawler has always been a 146 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,200 play on a professional wrestling and often used pro wrestling influences, at least in 147 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,200 his way ends. 148 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,160 So if you guys haven't seen it, dear listener, you can find it on YouTube of Tom Lawler during 149 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,280 one of his weigh-ins being the shockmaster. 150 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,040 And it is beautiful. 151 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Has the glitter helmet, the giant vest comes face plants right out of the curtain. 152 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,000 I got a little bit of a look at it when we get done there because I never see that. 153 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 It is great. 154 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,080 I can't remember where I originally heard that from, but I'm like, that can't be a 155 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,080 real thing. 156 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Totally is. 157 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,200 Tom Lawler just bursted through a curtain and face planting a lot of shockmaster. 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,960 I mean, obviously a purpose because he has a stormtrooper helmet on and all that good 159 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,960 stuff. 160 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Yeah, definitely for that. 161 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Definitely got to see that. 162 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,080 But Tom Lawler back in action with MLW or the World Titan Federation, slight upgrade over 163 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Dave Boy Smith, Jr. though. 164 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:04,280 I don't want to see Davey Boy out like he is, but I still think it's an upgrade. 165 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Following this next start point, the tag team match, the main event versus the Beaumont 166 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Fight Club. 167 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,440 This is Jay Bujji's first official match as a member of the Beaumont's team with Mr. 168 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Thomas taking on the main event. 169 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,240 It served its purpose. 170 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Definitely the main events are a very entertaining tag team. 171 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,240 On the Confusion podcast, I really kind of went on a small tangent about how I wish MLW 172 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:38,640 would use them more and better, more better because they got their act down. 173 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,080 They have some very innovative spots. 174 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,680 They're in a very entertaining team and given the nature of the tag team division within 175 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:52,240 MLW, I don't understand how they aren't a bit more of a power player team. 176 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:59,240 That being said, though, you got to showcase the Beaumonts given that, well, they're the 177 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,480 entourage to our World Heavyweight Champion and have made a big deal about the addition 178 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,120 of Jay Bujji. 179 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,680 And those two gelled very well together. 180 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,840 I was actually very surprised how well they gelled. 181 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,760 And again, not doing my proper research, don't know if they've ever teamed on the Indies 182 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,240 or not or had any practice or if this is their first real match. 183 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:28,280 And I popped hard for the Cable Toss where Mr. Thomas just shot Jay Bujji over the top 184 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,640 rope on the main event too. 185 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,880 But it was a fun match. 186 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,760 I showed off what both teams can do and I'm very interested to see how this iteration 187 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,080 of the BoMeiA teams work in the future, even if they work in the future. 188 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:52,640 I know the next BoMeiA tag team match scheduled is Kaiju and Mr. Thomas as a combo. 189 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 But what are your thoughts on it? 190 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,400 I love the match. 191 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,520 I love the main event when I saw them for the first time at AEW when they were going 192 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,520 through the whole pandemic thing, that's the first I saw them. 193 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,920 And I started looking for them and then I found out they work for House of Glory. 194 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 And they just recently won the tag team belt there. 195 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,400 And you are correct. 196 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Why are they not being pushed more in LMAW for the tag team is beyond me. 197 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:29,040 But we know that there's a storyline with BoMeiA and not with WTF coming up in the future 198 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,040 or whatever, Cardona. 199 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,960 The only thing that I don't like about the match for some reason is a lot of stuff seems 200 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,480 choreographed too much with the main event. 201 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,200 That's like, you can see a lot of things coming and they were waiting for the spot to hit 202 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,400 and he's holding him to do this move and stuff like that. 203 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:53,600 I'm like, eh, you know, like, like it was like too choreographed for me. 204 00:12:53,600 --> 00:13:01,280 But yeah, but the border toss of hip toss over the ropes with Abuji and then Mr. Thomas 205 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,640 doing, you know, the power moves because he was like the tallest guy in the ring, you 206 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,520 know, just destroying Jay Lyon there with a move. 207 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,000 They get the winning or not. 208 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 They move forward. 209 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,080 And like you said, I would like to see the next tandem of Kaiju and Mr. Thomas coming 210 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,120 up in the future and see how they look. 211 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Because I know that there was one with Thomas in Kane teaming also. 212 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:35,560 So we're good to see, you know, who else is tangible, who is good together and stuff. 213 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:38,520 We're good to see that coming up the next couple of weeks. 214 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,520 So, yeah. 215 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,760 Oh, and each, you know, each variation of the team will bring something new to the table 216 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,960 because obviously Jay Buji is, you know, cruiserweight, middleweight, high flying type dude. 217 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,280 And then you have Kane's Ground and Pound submission style, stylings. 218 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,840 And then both Mr. Thomas and Oshie Edwards are both men beasts. 219 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,720 And we're just just going to toss you around. 220 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Yeah. 221 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,080 And that's kind of what I'm looking for. 222 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Looking forward to when Thomas and Edwards team up because I, you know, I like my team. 223 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,600 I do like teams like the Road Warriors and one or two, just two big meaty dudes. 224 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,800 You're just going to steamroll you. 225 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:29,400 And especially with the MLW roster, or we'll say the physical size of the MLW roster members, 226 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,720 like those two guys are going to be like the biggest dudes, you know, unless they bring 227 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:40,920 in that Yusuf or L and bring back Beastman and the other big guys. 228 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Yes. 229 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Yeah. 230 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Some of the other big guys, like almost everybody else, you know, is significantly shorter. 231 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,560 And like even in the case of like Jay Lion, who's like a big around dude, but he's still, 232 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,080 you know, a lot shorter. 233 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Yeah. 234 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Yeah. 235 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Still a lot shorter than Mr. Thomas. 236 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:03,680 So yeah, but I do love the Road Warriors, powers of pain days, you know, two big muscular 237 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,200 guys out there just doing power moves. 238 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Which I mean, ironically enough is how Mr. Thomas kind of got his start in the business 239 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 as part of the Devastation Corporation. 240 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:19,080 It was a stable of big dudes managed by Sidney Bacabella. 241 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,320 And they got their teeth in Chikara. 242 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:27,440 And of course, the Chikara roster members were physically not always the biggest when, 243 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,040 you know, Claudio Castagnoli is like one of your Hauses. 244 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,080 You know, I don't want to say there's something wrong, but like it just shows that your roster 245 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,720 is on the shorter side, which definitely played it played to the advantage of kind of the 246 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:47,440 old school physical mentality that was the Devastation Corporation who heavily drew inspiration 247 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,120 from the Road Warriors from demolition from the powers of pain, etc. 248 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,120 etc. 249 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,120 etc. 250 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,120 The old face painted tag teams. 251 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Good old days. 252 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Good old days. 253 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Following this, we got some big news coming into next week. 254 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Selena de la Renta has announced that she is once again taking the role of producer 255 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,960 due to a due to a lawsuit that Court Bauer has to physically attended to. 256 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,640 So she is taking over the next episode of Fusion. 257 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,560 You know, she this is not her first stint doing it. 258 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,640 And she even made the comment of like how fast like she went from coming back. 259 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Yes. 260 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,640 Now running the show. 261 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,880 I mean, why a month and two weeks now. 262 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,880 Yeah. 263 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Yes. 264 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Something something like she has not been back terribly long. 265 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,040 And she she's making moves. 266 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Obviously, you know, we've already she's already nabbed herself to titles like within 267 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,960 MLW and that's not counting any titles that you know, Rocker and Merrow happens to hold 268 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,960 in the meanwhile. 269 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Yeah. 270 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,480 AKA CMML historic welterweight championship. 271 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,800 And now she's going to be in charge of next week's episode. 272 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,880 And I'm curious to see how that goes because she's promised us at various points more 273 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,800 lucidories coming in. 274 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,960 So I don't know if this is going to be another if this is going to be into being another 275 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:14,240 you know, lucidore showcase or if this is just going to have her fingerprints all over 276 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,240 it. 277 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,360 I mean, neither scenario is a lose to be to be frank, but I'm morbidly curious to see 278 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:23,400 where we're going to where she's going to take us next week. 279 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Well, I know before she left, she had produced two shows and those both of those shows were 280 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,920 the highest view shows from MLW back then. 281 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,880 So I'm expecting this one to be the same. 282 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,160 Another another viewership, high viewerships watching it. 283 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,240 And I don't know about bringing anybody in, but I'm pretty sure fingerprints are going 284 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,200 to be there, meaning we'll probably get to see Rocky Romero doing something and maybe 285 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,400 even Jet Nai Kai doing something. 286 00:17:53,400 --> 00:18:00,480 So and maybe even announcing she's bringing somebody in from CMML for the next show in 287 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,200 November sometime next week, you know, she all announces. 288 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,960 So this is definitely something good to look at. 289 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,520 I'm looking forward to this episode next week. 290 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,520 Yeah. 291 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,000 And just to really hype up the packaging more again, like she she has gotten the rocket 292 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,160 strapped to promotion promotion is Dorado. 293 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,680 Like she she's it's almost a hostile takeover at this point. 294 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:29,600 And I'm waiting to see how this goes with some of the other factions that are readily 295 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,600 available. 296 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,880 So WTF kind of have their hands full with the combination of second gear crew, plus 297 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,040 now targeting the bow my a's or specifically Alex Kane. 298 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,000 But you know, how much longer can you know, two large factions, or at least in terms of 299 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,080 scope and power grabs, how long can they coexist? 300 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,200 And you know, always being a wild card in the background, you know, despite the seeming 301 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:59,120 fracture of the group, you know, the calling is still there and still willing to, you know, 302 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:00,120 cut you. 303 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:01,120 Yeah. 304 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:07,000 So like I'm very curious to see like how this how this will interact in the near future. 305 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 I mean, obviously, I don't think we're going to see anything involving that nature kind 306 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,000 of next week, because again, everyone's kind of got their hands full with other stuff. 307 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,400 But that may not be far off in the future. 308 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,640 Or the time will tell, baby. 309 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Yeah, we just got to watch and see. 310 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Yes, story play out. 311 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,680 Yes. 312 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:33,600 And our main event of the evening, the one called Manders taking on the agent Matt Cardona, 313 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Mr. Saint Laurent out doing his thing as well, chewing up all the scenery. 314 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,240 What'd you think, muffins? 315 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,160 I didn't like this match that much. 316 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,400 Since I'm not really a Matt Cardona, Matt, you know, fan, you know, it did what it did. 317 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,800 You know, he cheated to get the win. 318 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,880 So you know, now is one up or now he's two or no. 319 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:05,680 He's saying against the second year crew now or two is it to an old and MW to an old against 320 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,680 those guys. 321 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,680 But okay. 322 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,680 So yeah. 323 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:15,040 So now he's two or no, but I guess Manders is still there waiting to get another crack 324 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 at him. 325 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,200 So that match, I'll be interested to see what kind of match they do. 326 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,480 God, I hope it's not another kiss my foot match, but more like, you know, bring weapons 327 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,320 or something or, or, you know, get paid anywhere. 328 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,520 And this time to have a camera to go back there and those going on and not, you know, 329 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,280 put it off or not like that. 330 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:46,640 So, but, you know, a day was it was supposed to do in Mark during that kid's winning. 331 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,120 Now he's two or no and I'm a W and against the second year crew. 332 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,840 So now he has those guys to deal with. 333 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,920 And then he has the boomer yet club to deal with if he's wants to go after the title. 334 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,560 So yeah. 335 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,720 And I agreed like there was nothing wrong with the match. 336 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,960 The match was entirely serviceable. 337 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Yeah. 338 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,600 But as one of those like little things where I questioned like outside the concept of Matt 339 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Cardona having a main event just because of his name value, like he is the, you know, 340 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,120 he is the biggest name in MLW. 341 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:25,760 But like outside of Cardona's like name value, the match itself didn't seem too terribly 342 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,320 main eventy. 343 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,000 Like I just, but if you look at the other matches on the card, at least how the, how 344 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,240 the card was set up for this tape for, for this episode, you know, one other match was 345 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,640 going to be the main event really. 346 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,120 I mean, logistically speaking. 347 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,480 So, and, and as of right now, like really Cardona. 348 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:49,320 Being the biggest star MLW has like he needs to be, he would be doing a total squash and 349 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,720 he should be in the main event. 350 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,800 And that being said, this match was not a squash match by any stretch of the imagination. 351 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,640 Cardona actually is like really more of a squash the other direction. 352 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,280 It was Manders had a lot of offense going into it. 353 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:09,040 And, and Cardona would just have these little spots where he, he would counter something 354 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,760 and then almost outside of like one like spurt, like he pretty much got like taken over right 355 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,760 away. 356 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Even like Manders missed a spear showing off his skills that he learned in the University 357 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,800 of Iowa, but almost immediately right after that, just back body drops Cardona to the 358 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,800 floor. 359 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Yeah. 360 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,680 And then, you know, storyline wise, I mean, just, you know, I showed some of the inexperience 361 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:40,920 that Manders had because he was way more focused on MSL who wasn't doing anything. 362 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:47,640 He was just doing bad commentary and went after him like he was a podcaster or something 363 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,320 and, you know, got the distraction, which, you know, was the beginning of the downfall. 364 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Of course, the real downfall is his respect for referees and Cardona using using the ref 365 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,960 as a meat shield, allowing an eye poke and radio silence to take up the victory. 366 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,520 But, but really the more important thing coming out of it is that we had all this security 367 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:14,400 that was supposed to prevent the Titan Federation and the second gear crew or the bow my a's 368 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,080 basically stopping what was supposed to have what happened at Slaughterhouse from happening 369 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,800 last night. 370 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,480 And for all that security there, Mass Water just strutted his way out and thought in the 371 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:34,800 head with nary any sort of, you know, blockage. 372 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,880 Like we had all this extra security and Cardona just instantly just gets his head thumped 373 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,160 and is chased backstage. 374 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,760 You know, then Sand Lord Ron is hiding behind poor Sam Luternia. 375 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,440 Yeah, some of that turner. 376 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,160 The guy is bigger than him, like by three by three times the size and he's hiding behind 377 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,160 her. 378 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Like, like, like really like do like we can see you behind the girl. 379 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,160 I mean, if you're going to get a meat shield, Sam Luternia is not the person you needed. 380 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Yeah. 381 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,760 But you're not going to shield it all to begin with and let alone for someone the size of 382 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,760 MSL. 383 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Yeah, we could see you from any angle. 384 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,840 So there's no way he'll man's Warner did not see you hiding behind her. 385 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880 But yeah. 386 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 And that's how the episode ended. 387 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Yeah. 388 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Luckily. 389 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Yeah. 390 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,960 So as we said, it's a solid episode overall. 391 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,400 It went by really fast and it showed progression. 392 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,400 Yeah. 393 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Like there's really no like no big complaints. 394 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Like really anything I complain about is more just nitpicky stuff, armchair stuff. 395 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,200 We got we got our seeds planted for the future, especially coming next week with the promotion. 396 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Always Dorada take over and we haven't really touched on where the what's going on with 397 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,200 the calling. 398 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,200 They did a small package on it, but they didn't, you know, it didn't add anything. 399 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,680 He's just reminding us that, hey, Ricky Champagne shoved a cure to the ground and there seems 400 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,440 to be some problems going on. 401 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:11,320 But you know, but you know, we can't we can't give everything out all at once. 402 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,320 Yeah. 403 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Give them the timeframe of an episode of fusion. 404 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,880 And they also announced, you know, meet you Yamashita coming in. 405 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,840 So they had a nice little package. 406 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,520 So she'll be in coming in the future. 407 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,560 So I was happy about that. 408 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,560 They mentioned that. 409 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,600 So I'm excited for that one. 410 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,600 Yeah. 411 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,680 So, you know, comparatively speaking, I know they've been pretty patchy in terms of capitalizing 412 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,280 on any momentum right after one of the big shows. 413 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,520 But I feel last night was a good turnaround comparatively speaking and really like again, 414 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,440 just kind of whetted the appetite and I'm still like really curious of where they're 415 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,880 going and they didn't just sweep a bunch of things under the rug. 416 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,520 I'm like usual. 417 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520 So that that was fusion 187. 418 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Yes. 419 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Anything else to add muffins? 420 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,520 No, not really. 421 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:08,880 I think, I think we covered it all in the meanwhile then as we wind down, be sure to check out 422 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600 this year, this year podcast. 423 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,240 We're on the Spotify's and wherever else you happen to get your audio podcasts now in 424 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,160 addition to the YouTube's 10 pounds of gold is Wednesdays. 425 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,160 Is that correct? 426 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,160 Yes. 427 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Except this week I kind of messed up because I had a couple of appointments so it'll probably 428 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,880 be out tomorrow. 429 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,000 So, okay. 430 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320 So new episode tomorrow, 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