1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Hey everyone, another edition of the Urban Wrestling Network. 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,160 I'm Rob Kay of the MLW Confusion podcast. 3 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,080 With me today is the always magnificent Muffins Martinez. 4 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,760 We're going to break down the world of MLW. 5 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,040 They came off a banger of a pay-per-view, 6 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,560 at least in my humble opinion. 7 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Feel free to disagree with me. 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,560 That's why I got invented comment sections below. 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,560 Yeah, I think we should just go ahead and jump right in, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,440 because not a whole lot happened outside of the event as of right now. 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,800 So we're going to jump in. 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,840 First match was a lot of fun. 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,800 I thought it was the Chamber of Horrors match, 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,560 the second-year crew consisting of 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,400 Vance Warner and Matthew Justice, 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,240 taking on calling members Jeff Cannonball and Talon. 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,800 What did you think, Muffins? 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,960 Hey, man, I usually do not get into these type of matches, 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:19,640 but for some reason I got into this match. 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Matthew Justice surprised me with some of the moves that he was doing there. 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:31,000 I mean, Talon, or I'm sorry, Cannonball took a lot of bumps, 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,880 especially when they put the pump can on top of his head. 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,880 I wouldn't fit in. 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,680 They still pushed it down. 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,160 That probably hurt the most out of anything in that match, really. 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Yeah, so that was the funny part. 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,720 And then the ending, I was like, God, don't do that. 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Don't do that same ending. 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,240 WCW, Halloween Havoc, when I blew the butcher, 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,680 it got electrocuted to end the match. 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:02,680 That was the same way they ended this talent getting electrocuted. 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,920 And they killed them. 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Basically, he died just like one of the butcher died back in 2000 or whenever. 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,360 That Halloween Havoc show happened. 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:20,480 And I'm thinking to myself, well, I guess you could still do the same finishes 20 years later. 36 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,360 And if people don't remember, it'll be the first time they've seen it. 37 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,640 But I was like, oh, my God, they got to build the butcher finish. 38 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:29,840 And they killed Talon. 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,880 He got electrocuted. 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,640 He's dead. 41 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:36,320 Loki, this was one of the matches I was really looking forward to, 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,240 because the original Chamber of Horrors match, which I think is in 1991, 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,960 but don't hold me to that one either, 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,400 was terrible in the best way possible, 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:52,800 especially when you throw in some of WCW's camera gaffes of lately catching the lever 46 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,640 that had already fallen down and whatnot. 47 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,240 So at least MLW didn't do that. 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,240 But I was very curious to see what kind of schlock we were going to get out of it. 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,000 And then also, I'm a big fan of just wild brawls, too. 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,440 So I knew with the four individuals in this match, it was going to be that. 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,640 I definitely didn't expect a coast to coast summer solstanton, though. 52 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,040 Like that was bloody amazing. 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,240 And I don't know. 54 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,440 That Halloween holiday was back in 1991? 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Yeah. 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Oh, wow. 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:22,880 OK. 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Yeah. 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Holy shit. 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,960 But that is yeah. 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Wow. 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,520 OK. 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,880 I didn't think you I I was thinking like 2000 for some reason or something there, 64 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,520 but 91 definitely takes a back more. 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Oh, yeah. 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,720 But times a circle, you know, everything old is new again. 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,440 And and and really for this pay-per-view, 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,640 because I haven't seen it. 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Definitely check it out. 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:53,920 MLW borrowed heavily from WCW actually from like that specific Halloween havoc anyway, 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,360 but the Chamber of Poors match. 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,440 They had tombstones and all that good stuff set up in the entryway, which I love. 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Oh, yeah. 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Pieces like that. 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,680 So that was great. 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,960 They even had a shout out to Sean Ross Sapp because he died because he leaked the wrong information. 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,600 And then we had a Halloween phantom. 78 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,160 I like the entrance and how everything was set up. 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,040 So yeah, I enjoyed how the rushes came out and everything was set up nice. 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,440 I was OK. 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,640 You know, it's a nice Halloween themed, even though it was the 14th of October, 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,920 nowhere near Halloween. 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,160 But yeah, if you can't get the venue, you know, that close, then, you know, so be it. 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,120 But yeah, I thought the match was a lot of fun. 85 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Like I didn't expect a five star classic coming out of it. 86 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,440 And I can definitely also see where fans may not enjoy the match because it was definitely 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,320 kind of a niche tongue in cheek thing going on. 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,560 But I definitely enjoyed it. 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,760 It was it was good. 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:50,720 Yeah. 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,560 The only thing I could like I would make a complaint about is that like cannibal no selling 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,080 some of those chair shots. 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Yeah. 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,880 He got conchared out and he was still on his feet. 95 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,200 Like I don't care how big you are. 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Like, 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,840 Mans Warner and Matthew Justice are pretty big dudes, too. 98 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,320 I mean, they just don't happen to weigh 400 pounds. 99 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,200 But you know, Mansor is just a couple of just shorter than I am. 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,960 And he's pretty stocky and the justice is pretty stacked, too. 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Yeah. 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 When you get hit like that, you have to go down, man. 103 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:20,800 At least. 104 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Yeah. 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Yeah. 106 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:27,200 And I know they're I know they're trying to put cannibal over as, you know, the behemoth 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 of the calling or at least this iteration of the calling. 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,280 But, you know, that but that's a minor complaint compared to the rest of the match. 109 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,200 Like it didn't it didn't take me out of the moment. 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,240 It didn't, you know, it didn't ruin anything for me because, you know, there's so much other 111 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,280 stuff going on. 112 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:46,400 Though I did think it was interesting and I don't know if this this is any bit of poor 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:46,640 chat. 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,320 It was well as much as I come from the hood. 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,080 But while Allen is still there, twisting, I noticed that cannibal just passed off. 116 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:57,280 Left out in the chair. 117 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,720 He didn't like come check on him. 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,360 Didn't. 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Yeah. 120 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Yeah. 121 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Didn't do anything. 122 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,440 He left them there. 123 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,800 They left them for dead. 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Yeah. 125 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,440 There's a reason. 126 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Yeah. 127 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Nobody will happen to talent or next tapings. 128 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,400 Yeah. 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,880 But other than that, yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed the match. 130 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,000 I thought it was a lot of fun and, hey, Mark, on the calendar, Muffins enjoyed what should 131 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,880 have been a garbage match. 132 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,440 I will shuck myself. 133 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,040 I'll be honest because I even sit. 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,280 I even told my brother he's seeing they watching. 135 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,200 I said, I'm actually enjoying this match. 136 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,000 But he was serious of price too. 137 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,400 Yeah. 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,200 It was a lot of fun. 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,160 I thought going to the next match, going to the other end of the spectrum 140 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,480 was the title for title. 141 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,880 I don't want to call it a unification match because it's not unification, 142 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,400 but my brain is broken. 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,280 CMML historic welterweight championship versus MLW middleweight championship. 144 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:54,480 First signing of the new promotion, a Sturrada, Rocky Romero, taking on the callings, a Kira. 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Just for me, starting the party, like I this this match, I feel is a coming out party for a Kira. 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:01,920 Yes. 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,800 I've been a fan of a Kira for quite a bit now and I've no and he hasn't been able to show it, 148 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,840 but I've been aware of it. 149 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:12,480 But like the dude can wrestle and MLW has just been kind of like showing him off in these brawls. 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,360 And he's finally got to show like where the catch in catch death comes into play. 151 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,080 And like he he was actually over with the crowd to the crowd was really behind him. 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Like we talked about how the calling is goes over like a wet part. 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:33,200 And like this was not the case for a Kira and he was in full on almost baby face mode. 154 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Like he holed up later on when we had shenanigans with the other gas mask goons. 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Like he kind of called them off Selena, which I thought was interesting, 156 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,320 which also kind of like foreshadow what's going on later in the show and can be in the future. 157 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,840 But it seemed like a cure was really out to like show that this he could do this on his own. 158 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,880 And well, spoiler, it didn't quite work that way. But like, 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,280 dude just showed he should be he could be a major he could be a main event player in MLW if he sticks around. 160 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,280 I have not been a fan of a Kira since he came in with the calling because everything that I 161 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,520 seen has been nothing but just brawling and all that kind of announces match. 162 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,320 This match surprised me and turned my opinions up by him to a positive 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,800 because I actually saw him wrestle and I'm like, wow, this dude can actually wrestle and he can actually 164 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:35,840 put on a show like this whole match. Like Rocky O'Rero looked amazing. A Kira looked amazing. 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:44,160 It was perfect motion, no hiccups, no stumbles, nothing was just this perfect nice match. 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:51,120 I mean, even when Selena went outside and beat the shadow of the two guys with the with the stick, 167 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,080 the calling, I thought for a second I thought she was going to turn on Rocky for a minute. 168 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,680 Well, I actually thought she was going to turn on him for a minute, but it never happened. 169 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:08,720 Rocky, you know, came out and got the win. Now he's got two belts. Now he held he has up to 170 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Friday to rampage our AEW to wrestle mystical from CMLL. So everybody now is trying to jump 171 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:25,920 into this close promoting, trying to go into Mexico and try to bring some of these guys over 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Japan and I'm here for it. I love it. I will surprise Rocky one to be honest with you. 173 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:38,080 I was surprised. I thought I would have won, but yeah, now they take that title to Mexico and 174 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:44,720 we'll see if maybe we get to see, you know, one of the guys from MLW go out there to Mexico, 175 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:54,480 see him at the show and see what happens. I'm hoping it happens. I'm actually surprised that 176 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Rocky won. I figured either a, Akira would win or B, it would be some sort of schmaw's and it would 177 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,960 get thrown out. And so everybody got to keep their belts. And I just say this not because Rocky 178 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,680 doesn't deserve it, but one, I did kind of question how long Rocky was going to be around, 179 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:16,960 just because he has so much going on. Again, he's, for those of you not aware, he's one of the main 180 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,640 talent liaisons for New Japan in addition to being an active wrestler in both New Japan, 181 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:29,280 CMLL and now AEW. So the dude's all over the place. So I didn't know if this would be a one 182 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:35,120 up for him just because you can't be everywhere. I think I've even seen him wrestle a couple times 183 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,040 in the impact, right? Probably. Yeah. But I mean, it doesn't, but I guess this shouldn't surprise 184 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:46,960 you because he does have history in MLW. He has popped up for spots here and there. And of course, 185 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,560 he's a great get for promotion on his Dorada. And they started off like really their first real 186 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:58,800 match with the bang too. And Selena even showing that she, you know, she's, she is going to be 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:05,360 even more hands on than she may have been before. Getting involved in getting involved physically, 188 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,560 which is the one thing I didn't like is I didn't like that she actually ran off the calling dudes. 189 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:13,200 The calling is supposed to be like these bad, like bloodthirsty dudes. And then they got run 190 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,720 off by Selena, but she showed that you cannot one, you cannot mess with a woman. Right. 191 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Dude, you cannot mess with a Puerto Rican woman with a stick. So, you know, either you get beat 192 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:32,240 up with a chunk, which is, uh, you know, flip flop or you give it up with a, with a candle stick 193 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,840 or something. She just showed already have the candle stick in the chunk of any day. 194 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,960 So that just, that just put, that just make sure that she's there. She's a true player. 195 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,240 She's going to be here. And Rocky Romero broke gold into promo center Dorado 196 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:56,000 since first goal since the parks had it like two, three years ago when she was there. So 197 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,640 I was happy for this. Yeah. I mean, it was all around great matching. Like this might be my 198 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:08,160 match of the night. Honestly, like just again, just the comment, like all, all of the drama 199 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,720 that came around it. And again, like, you know, as I said, I've always been a fan of Akira. Like, 200 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:19,360 I may have been like the sole voice of like, yeah, Akira on this year show. But tonight, or that 201 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,560 Saturday night, he, you know, showed every, he proved his downers. And so I, and I'm really 202 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:30,160 excited to see where, where he's going from, from there. But we'll, we'll say this is not the last 203 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:37,280 we'll see of Akira spoiler. So we'll keep moving on. Speaking of the calling are as well, our next 204 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:44,960 match is for the national open weight championship. Spin the wheel, make the deal more WCW 1991. 205 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:51,760 The one called manders takes on the calling is Ricky Shane Page. I was really hoping that like, 206 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,880 if they're going to go full call a call back, I was really kind of hoping for a coal miners 207 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:01,680 love match. But you know, whatever, I was also hoping for, you know, loser has to be nice to me 208 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:07,520 since manders is kind of a dick or, you know, a loser has to drink a good beer because neither 209 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,840 of those gentlemen drink good beer. But I didn't think the last two would actually happen at all. 210 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:18,000 That was just me being a neck beard. I just thought out of all the different options, 211 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,920 false count anywhere match was the one that came out. And when I really, 212 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,880 out of all the things they could think of, that's the one that they came out with. 213 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Well, and I think at a certain level, you didn't want to go too crazy with the gimmick, 214 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,800 especially since we have the chamber of horrors there. Either we didn't want to get like, 215 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:42,080 necessarily too creative or do anything that would, I don't know, liken itself to the chambers of 216 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,000 horrors matching, though, like, there's not a whole lot like it, but I could see where they just, 217 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,560 I don't know, maybe want to keep it quasi tamish or at least cut down on some of the 218 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:56,000 weapons usage after that match. Just just just just for the sake of being different. But yeah, 219 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,400 false count anywhere. Like the big thing that came out of this match is that we never, we didn't get 220 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:06,320 to see the match technically in its entirety. The match started, our competitors went to the back, 221 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:12,800 and then they just decided they couldn't send a camera down after them for a bit. And like, 222 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,080 I thought they're going to swerve us because they didn't want us to see like gorilla position, 223 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,840 which that's fine. Don't want to see where the magic happens. But I figured like after like, 224 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,840 30 seconds of babbling on, like they would cut to the back and like, Oh, here they are. And like, 225 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,600 no, we just went to our next match. Yeah, just like that. Yes. I was surprised. I was shocked 226 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,240 on what the hell that just happened here. Yeah. And then we had like two more matches 227 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,120 before we got got the finish of this here match. We got like little like little chunks of like, 228 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Oh, they're in the electrical area. Oh, they're in the ring truck. Yes. Yes. Like, but we only get 229 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,760 like a minute or two of action. I was surprised when you hit the basement of the venue. Oh, they're 230 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:02,960 in the bathroom. Somebody got flushed. Oh, it could have been was it was it was it hammer and 231 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:09,920 Pagano? Was it? Yeah. Someone fell on the roof of the venue. Yes. Yes. But yeah, yeah, when they 232 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,960 were in Mexico, Mexico, yeah, a little girl, a little girl in the other building, you could see 233 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:20,400 little girl screaming and running into the house. Yeah. That was the best shot I ever seen when I 234 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,400 saw that. There was some stuff that they could have done that maybe would have been more creative 235 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:30,240 besides just loving each other in a new room. But like, you know, and I don't want to like, 236 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,360 I don't want to poop on the match too terribly much because for what it was that like, that'll 237 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,840 to eventually bell like it was serviceable. But I think they just really try to get over the 238 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,080 skimmick of Falls County anywhere, which I feel it defeats the purpose of it. If you if we can't 239 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,840 watch the entire match and the crowd was definitely not enthused with it. So I think they even figured 240 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,960 if the match left the ring side area that they would get watching on the Toronto whatnot. And 241 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,440 and once Stephen D'Angelo's got into the ring and started announcing the next match, like the 242 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,680 moves were very much audible until the next batch of music hit. So I do kind of like feel bad for 243 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,320 man, there's an energy shame page because like what could what would have been a serviceable match 244 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,000 is going to be overshadowed by this questionable production decision. 245 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Well, I was happy with the next match because I was thinking to myself like what the hell just 246 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,880 happened. But then the next match was down the actual and I was okay. I'm fine with this. 247 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,840 Yeah. I mean, so we'll go right into it. So while they were brawling around, our next match 248 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,200 is Delmy XO versus the MLW Halloween Phantom. I was wrong. I thought they were going to resurrect 249 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Rick Roode because he was the WCW Halloween Phantom. But instead, our Phantom, a member of 250 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:53,280 promotion is Dorada is one Jenae Kai. And I was disappointed that she didn't come out as like an 251 00:16:53,280 --> 00:17:02,400 actual Phantom. She just came out as Jenae Kai and Wow, but like that's like I didn't see that 252 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:09,760 coming at all. I mean, I'm not disappointed. Jenae is one of my favorite favorite female 253 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:16,000 independent wrestlers. And actually when we were brainstorming our short list of who could be 254 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:22,160 the first female member of the Beaumayes, she was on my list. She was like number two after Jordan 255 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Blade because just because of how her style is. But yeah, and just to add to the insanity, like 256 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:38,080 we had a good match. Delmy friend of the show, Delmy XO, unfortunately did not retain the title. 257 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,760 But she put up a value fight. A couple of those kicks were that she took were pretty rough. Like 258 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:49,200 one, I don't know how much was like real or how much of it was just really good selling. But when 259 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:55,760 Delmy was on the ring apron and she took that kick to the ribs after like she like act like that 260 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,040 wasn't a yell. Like that was a bellow. Like that was like that was low and deep. Like it came 261 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:09,200 directly from the lungs and like, oh, well, after the match and now Jenae Kai is the new 262 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,920 further weight champion. I had two questions right there. One that happened. One is she signed 263 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,080 with LMO W for her to win the title because I was like, whoa, hold up. I never seen something 264 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,920 that before that somebody just comes in and wins the title and not even announced that she signed. 265 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:35,440 And two, she kind of beat the crap out of Delmy XO too. Like Delmy didn't have too much 266 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,480 offense in this match at all. So I was like, kind of like, okay, like what is going on here? 267 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Yeah, like I'm not I'm not terribly surprised Delmy lost because I figure like it just how the 268 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:54,000 promotional packages were leading up to this point. Like Delmy didn't really figure much into the 269 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,000 promotion of promotion. It's been all like it's all been Becca like their Becca this, Becca that, 270 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Becca and Love Doug. And so Becca would have won but she didn't even see what's in the power of the match. 271 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:11,040 And Becca is now you know on house arrest and or prevented from wrestling by her record label. 272 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:18,960 So like I kind of feel like I wonder I kind of like I have wonder if Jani is kind of like a placeholder. 273 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,480 I don't necessarily want to pull on a placeholder like they'll do something with her. 274 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:29,440 But I wonder if they just kind of went like, well, let's have a title change anyway, and we'll give it to 275 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:36,400 Jani. And so we'll see what happens. Like I'm hoping Delmy sticks around but considering like how 276 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,600 little she's been involved kind of like with with the promotional packaging and whatnot, 277 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,880 the lack of like updated promos and whatnot. I wouldn't surprise me if she's done for a bit, 278 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:52,800 especially with her with her obligations with in Germany because she's been doing the international 279 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:58,240 travel over there. And then she's also for those of you who may have missed it, she's also running 280 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,720 her own promotion out in Massachusetts as well per person grind, which is actually like the reason 281 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,480 one of the reasons she missed last month's MLWs like they both had a show at the same time. 282 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,240 And what's great about this is that now for the most, has their second title of the night 283 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:25,760 now being a further one title. And they have mentioned early in the night that another Japanese 284 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:34,400 star was coming in, Miyu Yamashita was coming in, which now makes me wonder of the match coming 285 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:40,800 up next month being between Jenaikai, because Miyu, because if that's going to happen, that's 286 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:47,520 going to be a kick fest. Oh yeah. Those ladies are nothing but kick demons. It's going to be 287 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,200 ugly the best way possible. Yes, there's going to be nothing but kicking everything around. 288 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,480 Somebody's definitely going to get their head kicked off in that match. So I'm hoping that 289 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:04,160 that matches what's going to happen. I mean, there's not a hundred percent in stone, but after seeing 290 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:10,880 Jenaikai win the title, okay, now I think we're going to go into that match now again. Sorry. So 291 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:17,120 which I'm hoping that what actually happens. Yeah. And I mean, just think about logistically, 292 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,800 like as much as a boon Jenaikai coming in is there's still not much of a women's division 293 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,440 overall right now too. And so like, yes, we're bringing in someone from Japan with some name 294 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:35,520 value to continue a partnership with the New Japan family. But like other options really are 295 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Delmi, which we're not sure if she's, we may not be sure if she's sticking around. Jenaikai, 296 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:47,840 who's the most obvious bet, Becca, who's on the shelf, Tiara James, which I'm no offense to her, 297 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,520 but I'm not sure if I like that would, I don't know if she's ready for that yet, at least in 298 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,800 terms of card placement. Definitely not ready for that. So really, who else are you going to do 299 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,800 unless you're going to bring someone else in to have that match? Definitely too green for her yet. 300 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,760 And I'm just like, you can even just name value alone. Yeah. Like no offense to Tiara, but when 301 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,800 you do something like that, like you're going to, you're just going to expect it to be a squash. 302 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,960 And then if it's an upset happens, like, yes, she can be made, but a lot of us are just going to be 303 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,960 like, what was that? Like, why would you do that? Why would you bring in someone of such name value 304 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:30,640 just to dump on them? And it's like, but speaking of bringing people in from Japan, next match, 305 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:41,280 angry murder grandpa, yeah, Suzuki taking on Jacob Fattu. I love myself some murder grandpa. 306 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,880 Yeah, this match was everything we expected it to be. And the crowd was so hyped for it. They 307 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:53,360 were they were already chanting, this is awesome. And given us our first fecal chant of the evening, 308 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:59,040 and they hadn't even locked up yet. Like standing across from each other and the crowd was just 309 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,480 eating it up. And Suzuki just has like such presence about him to begin with, 310 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,000 that he just stand there and not even make a face where there's, you know, and not to take 311 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,760 anything away from Fattu. Obviously, this is one of the marquee matchups you could do. 312 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,080 But you know, this this is just the spectacle of seeing Suzuki. 313 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:32,080 I mean, it's amazing how famous Suzuki is when he comes into town. I mean, Tuesday night, 314 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:39,200 he was wrestling an AEW belt night or whatever night of the belts against Eddie Kingston. 315 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:45,440 Friday night, he was also glory. And then Saturday night, he's wrestling against Jacob Fattu. 316 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,760 So if anybody, you know, if you live in New York for those two last two matches, 317 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,040 you would have seen them back to back nights. But I love this match. It was hard hitting. 318 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:04,560 And at the end of our surprise, Miss Suzuki won, you know, because that just what I think 319 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,160 now that's like two losses in the row for Jacob Fattu in the pay-per-views now. 320 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Yeah. And I'm kind of surprised because usually Suzuki ends up and when he at least when he's 321 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:21,280 in America, usually puts over talent as well. Like they kind of like they use him, you know, 322 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,800 they let their talent get the win over him. Usually in very good matches, not to say that 323 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,280 they're just jobbing him out. But like, it's usually a hard hitting affair that ultimately 324 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,320 the talent who wins deserves it. Like looking at the Eddie Kingston match, there was a point 325 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:41,520 where for nearly a solid consecutive minute, Suzuki was getting chopped in that match. So like 326 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Eddie Kingston earned it because Suzuki just stood there for a solid minute, just taking 327 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:51,200 blow after the blow to the chest and lower neck area. So the same thing, you know, applies to 328 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,840 this match. It was hard hitting. It was, it was a showcase for both these guys. I was surprised 329 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Suzuki won because I definitely figured they was going to, they would give it to Fattu. 330 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:06,400 But, you know, I'm not going to complain about Suzuki winning because I honestly, I was rooting 331 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,760 for him more than Fattu, but bigger Suzuki than I am to Fattu. Again, I love me some murdered 332 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:20,400 grandpa. And the thing, and the thing I'll put over here too, the commentary, the comment, Joe 333 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,880 Dombrovsky and Matt Stryker were on their game for this match. You know, I know Stryker is very 334 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,040 hit and miss. Like he can be kind of annoying and kind of like turn you off the things, but like 335 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,960 waiting on his game. Yeah, he can be like, he's, but it depends on where he's at at any given moment. 336 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,560 But when he's on his game, he is low key one of the best out there. And him and Joe called that 337 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:53,280 match amazing, really put over Fattu and his achievements and how much this match could mean 338 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,640 to him. It put over, you know, they put, and they really put over like, Oh, it's been like Suzuki 339 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,200 doesn't get rocked this hard this early in a match. He doesn't get knocked down this early in a match. 340 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,880 Like, say what you say what you want about, you know, Fattu, but he's bringing to Suzuki early, 341 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,480 and there's a legit sense of danger going on right now. And, you know, they also, they also, 342 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:20,000 and they also put over Suzuki for his 30 years of, you know, high level professional wrestling 343 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:27,600 as one of the inventors of Pancreas, the modern precursor to most of our MMA promotions nowadays, 344 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,800 most of the UFC. And so like, the, like, so what was already going to be an amazing match just in 345 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:43,440 the ring? Kyle Stryker and Joe took it up to the next level, especially compared to like the rest 346 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,760 of the matches, like that, not to say that the commentary was bad the rest of the show, but like 347 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:54,800 they went from like five to 10 almost instantly. Yeah, people forget that Suzuki was like one of 348 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:01,920 those early guys that were fighting MMA style before he became into this big craze the last, 349 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:08,640 like what, five years? So I mean, 20 years ago, he was out there in his 30s, you know, fighting 350 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,960 that type of style and we didn't care about it because nobody cared about MMA back then. 351 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Yeah, at that point, like at that point, what was the grandfather of MMA was basically starting in 352 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:26,240 Japan. And but yeah, the dude's going out there and having these kind of matches in his 50s. 353 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,160 Yes. And that's even more amazing. Yeah, just the hits he's taking at that age, like a lot of our 354 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,640 guys that are in their 50s, like may still be having like good matches, but they're not, 355 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,280 not taking that kind of beating or not taking that kind of beating consistently. And as you 356 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520 pointed out, Suzuki wrestled three, three matches that week, which is kind of a heavy workload for 357 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:52,240 any wrestler out there. And then again, working his style where he gets where he hits hard and gets 358 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,080 hit hard, like as well as just, you know, for him to do it at a high level. Didn't they finish though 359 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,360 SRP match after, in manders after this, right? Yeah, that's yeah. So so our little, like I was 360 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,640 kind of worried like overall, because like we had all these bangers that sometimes, especially before 361 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,200 a main event, you need something to kind of like cleanse the palette and bring you down. And like 362 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,400 this is where the hardcore, the Falls County anywhere match for the national open weight 363 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,400 championship kind of came back into play. So we're wrapping, so we're wrapping this match up. And 364 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,760 wouldn't you know, like we've been kind of calling free up to this point. And then here's Akira, 365 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,040 just he just sauntered. I love it because he just sauntered to the ring. Like he didn't, 366 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,160 there was no sense of urgency or anything. He just walked to the ring with a smug look on his face. 367 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,960 And manders being the idiot that he is just instantly went after him, even though he was 368 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,120 just wandering ringside. He didn't even like come at anybody and mangers throws and this is a lariat. 369 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,040 And then Ricky Shane Page uses Akira for a meat shield and kind of shoves him, 370 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,080 us shoves him off to manders who takes his head off, allowing enough of a distraction for Ricky 371 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,960 to hit a DDT on the, on the unprotected floor to pick up the victory. So Ricky Shane Page wins 372 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,680 the match. Also interesting stuff that I keep forgetting to throw out there. The one called 373 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:19,120 manders has never beaten Ricky Shane Page except for one match, which he had the second gear crew 374 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:26,480 and John Moxley on his side. So in a four on four match, he beat Ricky Shane Page. But all their 375 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:32,480 other encounters, Ricky has won all the calling has won, et cetera. So continue with the trend. 376 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Yeah. And the interesting thing is that he keeps the national title, right? National open title, 377 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:44,720 open weight. And he's also half of the tag team champion with Akira. So yeah, and interesting 378 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:50,000 going forward. How's it going to work together after all this mess from Saturday night? 379 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,360 And for those who missed it after the match, Akira is like, dude, what was that? He done shoved me 380 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:03,440 and Page is like, whatever, man, I did what I needed to. And, and then I shoved Akira back 381 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:10,160 to the ground and walked off. So we definitely have, so we definitely have a schism brewing in 382 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,400 the calling, which is often says like, it's also very interesting because in addition to the singles 383 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,280 goal that both members had, or at least had up to this pay-per-view, they were both, they are both 384 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:28,160 the world tag team champions as well. So they at a certain level are going to be forced to continue 385 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,800 to coexist until we figure out what's going on here. And the same group called the calling. So 386 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,320 yeah, also otherwise. So even if they, if this was a possible expelling of Akira, like they still 387 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,720 are going to be stuck together until they drop that, drop the title. Oh, they turn on him. 388 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Yeah, like that's, I'm curious. So I'm definitely curious to see how this is going. So Akira was 389 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,960 already acting like a face before. And if he has the calling going against him, like that's just 390 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,960 going to further like bring a crowd up on him. The way that the fans treated him Saturday night, 391 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:13,360 he might be twisting around because I'm pretty sure out of everybody there, he got a real good 392 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:21,120 reaction from that night from the fans. So I think honestly, his reaction was probably like the fourth, 393 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,760 like the fourth loudest of anybody. I think he got a better reaction than Fox, you did at least 394 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:34,640 initially. Oh, yes. Yes. I was surprised. Yeah. But like the only people that got got bigger reactions 395 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:41,680 are Suzuki, which is to be expected. And then our main event competitors as well. So but like this, 396 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,360 this is one of our big questions coming into this week's fusion is what's happening next with 397 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:53,760 with the calling. But speaking of more questions than answers, our main event is next, we reference 398 00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:01,360 it. Bon Myer for the people, Alex Kane versus last minute replacement, Filthy Tom Lawler. 399 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,280 Also, banger of the match. I'll let you start the start the party on this one, Muffins. What 400 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:14,480 would you think? Well, first of all, I was surprised when David Boyd Smith, you know, pulled out and 401 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,080 then we found out what happened later on. And then they announced that it was gonna be some 402 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,920 lot of you know, Tom Lawler. And I'm thinking about them didn't the dude just left not even what 403 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,920 not even two years ago. It's been two years already. Yeah. Oh, wow. Shit. So every time I think 404 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,360 it's I think it's time I think it's like a year or less or always something longer than that. So 405 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,280 he came back, you know, to the match and he picked up where he left off, you know, being there. I 406 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,920 mean, the same Tom Lawler, you know, halfway to the match he pulled down his his his trunks 407 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,720 George show. And yeah, they see dude, they see do so and I'll be laughing about them. My brother 408 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:03,120 loves that he loves him because like he's always funny with the shorts. But hell of a match. 409 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:10,480 Hard hitting match. Tom Lawler, I think he was brought in to for Kane to kind of elevate Kane 410 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,600 and kind of make sure that Kane had a strong opponent because Tom Lawler is strong as hell. 411 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:24,400 I mean, I mean that he's a strong opponent that will definitely will elevate King's title ship 412 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:33,120 championship, you know, pretty great more. And you know, the match was crazy. The ending was crazy. 413 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,200 And then what happened afterwards was even more. Oh, yeah. I wasn't expecting no that stuff afterwards. 414 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:46,240 So that wasn't a whole different thing. But yeah, I love the match. And I love that he came in, 415 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,120 you know, they got a good replacement for Dave Boyce Smith. Now, you know, now we'll see 416 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,640 how long Dave Boyce Smith is going to be out for. And if he does and when he does come back, 417 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,680 does he get a title match with that he was old? So it's going to be interesting going forward to 418 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:08,320 see what happens and who comes in and stuff like that. So yeah, speedy recovery to Dave Boyce 419 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,240 Smith. That was crazy. Going out like once we once they finally revealed the reason that he 420 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:17,520 pulled out. And if you missed it, he had a severe bout of appendicitis. And it turns out he's got 421 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,640 some diverticulitis. So in addition to emergency apodectomy, he lost a bit of his colon as well. 422 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:29,920 So like this wasn't some like K-Fa, usual MS, no, usual MLW bullshit. Like, no, this was legit. 423 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:37,200 Like they like life in a death situation. Yeah, this was serious. You know, so I mean, so it's for 424 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,960 the, you know, given the reason like, yeah, okay, he had to be pulled it. Well, there was nothing we 425 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:49,200 could do about it. But like, in my opinion, like, yes, the story was there for Davey Boyce and Kane, 426 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:57,040 but Lawlor, I felt elevated the match because Davey Boyce has kind of like flown under the radar, 427 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,320 like for the most part in America, outside of his stint in the WWE, but like after he left the WWE, 428 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:09,360 like his highest profile was really MLW. And he hasn't been, you know, a big part of MLW 429 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,720 in a couple of years either. But Lawlor, on the other hand, not only does he have the MLW 430 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:19,840 pedigree of being an MLW champion, like he's out there on the Indies killing it, the New Japan 431 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Strong champion, the inaugural New Japan Strong champion. And then he's, you know, bouncing around 432 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,680 the Indies, the higher level Indies as well, putting on banger after banger. And the dude's, 433 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,520 and the dude comes off legit, like he can go in the ring. And he's one of those characters that 434 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:44,640 can just exudes charisma about him. He knows how to play a crowd. And that's one of the things I 435 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,840 love about him. And this Suzuki is another one kind of does it too, where like you can be, he's 436 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,880 one of those guys that like, once the bell rings, like he's going to go, but like because he's so 437 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,240 tough and badass, like he doesn't have to act it. Like he could do all this stupid stuff, because 438 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:05,760 it doesn't matter. He's kicking your head in or choking you out. So like I did think this 439 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,840 elevated the match. And I think this became, this was, this is the statement win that we've been 440 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,360 waiting for for Alex Kane, you know, no offense to Hammerstone, because I mean, yes winning the 441 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,520 championships, a big deal. But again, like it's how long, how you defend the title is going to be 442 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,960 how people remember you. And no offense intended to Willie Mack, who his match with Kane was a banger. 443 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,320 But you know, Willie Mack is, you know, people just don't see Willie Mack at that level for, 444 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,200 you know, whatever reason, despite having that talent, they just don't see him as a worthy competitor. 445 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:43,120 Whereas Lawler has gone out and shown that, you know, he's winning some big title belts 446 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:55,200 on some pretty big platforms. So yeah, yeah. So but so Lawler brought it. Kane obviously brought 447 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,160 it to match him like the match was crazy good. I didn't think Kane was going to lose the title, 448 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,120 don't get me wrong. But the match was still amazing, especially in sequence where they started 449 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:12,240 like trading chokes or runic and chokes. And then they brought out the type of Bret Hart finish 450 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:17,920 from things like WrestleMania nine, bouncing off the turnbuckle and getting a pin off of 451 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:25,040 off a sleeper hold. So like that was that was great. But yeah, like the match itself, like I 452 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,640 think it was the statement when that Alex Kane needed overall. And then of course, the aftermath, 453 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,680 the pure chaos that come after that, Mr. Saint Laurent finally comes out, they teased him at 454 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,960 the beginning, but he didn't come out with Lawler. Zach Ryder, excuse me, Matt Cardona comes out, 455 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,800 you know, wants the peasants to bow to the deathmatch king. And it's finally pretty much calling 456 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,080 his shot for the World Heavyweight Championship, which like I will admit, I was wrong in my prediction. 457 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,240 I figured he'd get the title, they'd put him in the given the title slaughterhouse, 458 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,240 but it looks like we're going to have to wait another month. 459 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:05,120 Yeah, fight, fight land. Yeah, fight land's the next show. So it looks like fight land, 460 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,360 but that's going to be probably be our main event off that unless I don't think Dave was 461 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,760 coming back that soon off what he's gone through. But yeah, so Cardona comes out, they has fight, 462 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,240 and the background like turns out filthy Tom didn't leave the ring area and just suckered 463 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:24,560 chairs. Mr. Thomas, which I like, I thought was hilarious because I love stuff like that, 464 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120 where I don't quite see what's happening all of a sudden, the guy's just dead. 465 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:36,160 And that surprised me because once he pulled out of the ring, you know, he went to complain to 466 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,160 the announcers. I'm thinking, okay, he comes back, now we're going to shift from that to this year. 467 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:48,080 And all of a sudden, like you said, it goes with the chair. I said, oh, shit, hold on, 468 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:55,040 I wasn't expecting you all to be getting involved with this. I'm thinking it was like kind of a 469 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,880 one off match thing, you know, slowly get out and leave and nobody notices you left. But 470 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,960 I love it because that means that he's probably part of the San Loren crew. Yeah, and I will see 471 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,920 the WTF against the Boomerang Club. And if that happens, between them two and Snisky 472 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:22,880 against the Boomerang Club, sign me up. And that right there could be the main event for Fireland. 473 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,440 That could be. Say, or nothing else. There we go. Or, you know, they can keep it on the 474 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,760 back burner, keep the feud going, regardless of what's going on with the World Championship, 475 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 but keep it on the back burner and we could push that through to War Chamber. 476 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,440 Which would be in... I don't think that's until the new year. 477 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,200 Okay, because I know December is going to be one shot, right? 478 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,480 Yeah, I believe so. 479 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,600 And then didn't they already announce one for January, but they don't know the venue yet? 480 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,400 Something like that. Basically, if they didn't announce a venue, I'm just assuming it's not 481 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:02,720 existing yet. Hopefully, hopefully it's not in New York. Jesus, get out of there already. 482 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:10,800 Yeah, I want them to... I know Dallas, Fort Worth has been a hotbed for them, but I'm saluted 483 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,520 a bit for the concept of them coming back to Chicago just because there's a potential for me to get 484 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:22,960 out of it. Yeah, that's just me being selfish. And they hadn't shown there before since several 485 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:30,720 couple of times. And those places on the TV aspect, all those fans do, it was always packed. 486 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Well, my source, my actual source, not my cat, who usually gives me my wrestling stuff, 487 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,000 my actual source told me that they... The hat, the hat has your source? 488 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,560 Yeah. 489 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Yeah, the hat. 490 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,120 You go ahead and get it in. We'll double hat it. 491 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,720 My actual source said that they basically had a deal with the venue that they used, 492 00:40:52,720 --> 00:41:00,240 and then that venue, for wrestling purposes, was exclusive. So no wrestling is coming to that venue. 493 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,960 Next to no wrestling is coming to that venue. So they just don't have another place in Chicago 494 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,720 and I don't know if that's the entire reason they're not coming back to Chicago, 495 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,080 haven't been coming to Chicago, but that's at least one of the four gone. 496 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,720 Well, isn't the same place Cicero or whatever it's pronounced? 497 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,840 Like Cicero? 498 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,120 Yeah, Cicero. 499 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,840 Yeah. 500 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:28,160 Because I know Impact just had a show there a couple of weeks ago in Cicero, but I don't know what 501 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,440 venue they used though. 502 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,120 Yeah, and I don't know, maybe it was Impact that was cock-blocking everybody. I don't... 503 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Okay. 504 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120 My source wouldn't actually name names. He just said they lost the venue because the venue 505 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440 went exclusive for its source entertainment. 506 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,280 Yeah, because Impact was there. I wanted to say a couple of weeks ago they were there. 507 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,280 And it may not have been the same venue. I don't remember. I just had a talk with my source. 508 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,160 It was like a month ago. We just shot the breeze because I don't do real journalism. 509 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,880 Like I try not to... I try to stay out of the dirt, honestly. 510 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,640 Yeah, we were just shooting the shit and he's got his connections in MLW and he's just like, 511 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,280 Hey, oh, you know, you do this. Like this is what's going on. I'm like, 512 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,840 Okay, noted on my invisible notepad. 513 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,760 You know, as I'm like hiding in like Des Moines, Iowa or getting my news, 514 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,280 because that's where all the news happens is in Des Moines, Iowa. 515 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,480 So now out of a five star, what did you give the show? 516 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,920 Oh, see, I don't do star ratings. So I have to actually kind of think of this. But like, I would say, 517 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,240 honestly, I would give it four. I could probably put... If you put a gun to my head, 518 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:51,520 I could say 4.5. But the National Openweight Championship with how they handled that. 519 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:58,080 Like that brought it down a bit. And just like we'll call some smaller like aesthetic things. 520 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,800 Like again, I was disappointed that we advertised a Phantom and we didn't get a Phantom. 521 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,000 No, that's that's that's that's a quarter star right there. We didn't get a Phantom. 522 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,440 But you wanted the herd to come out with a mask and a cape? 523 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,080 Oh, yeah, yeah, I definitely then, you know, have a bigger feel. 524 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,160 Yeah, like, yeah, that would even cool you. 525 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,080 Like, you don't need to be elaborate with it. Just like have a shawl over your head. 526 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:30,320 Just, you know, Dracula. Pretend you're a plan nine and you know, you're not Bella Lagosky because 527 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,280 he died and just, you know, do this and then it's time and boom, like that's all you had to do. 528 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,960 Yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. That was something little that they could have done to kind of like 529 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,040 add to the aesthetic. Because again, they advertised a Phantom and instead we just got 530 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:55,600 Genai Kai. Well, who's afraid of Genai Kai? Well, everyone gets kicked by her. 531 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:03,600 So I was the same way. I won with a four. I couldn't be I was thinking the 4.5. But then that 532 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,120 middleweight title match and all those shit, you know, two matches later for them to come back 533 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,960 and I was like, oh, no, man. And then killing Talon there like the deal with the butcher 534 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,400 back in 91. I was having nightmares of murders again. I know God, they killed all the guy again. 535 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,000 So I would have four. See what they should have done if they were they should have done is gone 536 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:33,040 full Abdullah and then brought out the zombie medics and had Talon had Talon and somebody else 537 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,480 and Cannonball start fighting each other and then fighting the medics. Go full Halloween havoc with 538 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:45,600 it. Well, and to take it once they're further bring out the butcher. I don't think he's capable 539 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,200 of being brought out anywhere at this point in his life. He would have been out there. 540 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,960 Boom, just stabbing people with a fork or something. Someone would be pushing him in a wheelchair. 541 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,080 You're not supposed to cut that guy. He's in the way, brother. 542 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:09,840 Yeah. Now, I'll be honest. This is the third MLW pay review that they come back monthly now. 543 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,840 And I'm telling you honestly, it is getting better and better. Yeah, this is my favorite. 544 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,040 This is my favorite. Like the first one was my favorite. The second one was my favorite. And then 545 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,720 this is my favorite out of all of them now. Yeah. And reasoning for this. Yeah. And reasoning for 546 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:32,320 this one, like the bell to bell action has been stellar. Like, and again, like our main complaint 547 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,160 with the one match we didn't like was the fact that they just didn't let it be a match. They had 548 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:44,640 to make it a weird gimmick thing. And then two, this is really like the first pay per view, 549 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,240 our live events that they did that seem to have actual storyline consequences. Yes. Like 550 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,800 this every other pay per view answered questions. And like, oh, yeah, I'm interested in see what's 551 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,720 next because Alex came on the title, but that doesn't really ask a question. Like he doesn't 552 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,320 set up any storylines. It's just like, yeah, but my day, you know, they didn't like give us a whole 553 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,560 lot to sink our teeth into and wonder what if coming on for coming forward. And now we have at 554 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:18,960 least two big things coming coming up that I as a fan, I want to have answers to. And that, you 555 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,000 know, what's going on with the Kira and the calling and what's going on with WTF and the 556 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:31,760 pomayas. Yes. And then two great storylines at that too. So yeah. And then, you know, we tertiary, 557 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,040 we have Selena de la Renta promising more luchedores coming in, especially for Fightlin. 558 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480 And now I'm interested to see who she's going to bring because I know for a fact, 559 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,280 Rocky will be back to defend the title. So I want to see who she's going to bring and hopefully 560 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,040 you'll be a female, you know, this time around. So right. Well, and I'm hoping that they stay around 561 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,000 for the tapings too. And that's something we've been lacking. We've been lacking with our special 562 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,800 guests. They've come in for the pay-per-view itself. And then, which I get, like, you know, 563 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:13,680 we can ask them for the whole month. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was, you loved it. We all loved it. 564 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:22,480 So we've said about all we can say about Fightlin. Fightlin's the next one. About 565 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,240 Slaughterhouse. Yeah. If you guys haven't seen it yet, especially if you already have Fightplus, 566 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:34,160 check it out. It really belled a bell. It was great. And honestly, like the things we 567 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,880 complained about are really minor, big picture-wise. It was nothing that actively ruined our enjoyment 568 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,160 of the show. Obviously, we still rated it four, you know, four stars. And we totally pooped on 569 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,520 the false counting match. We didn't say a whole lot of positive about it. You know. So like, 570 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,200 it was still, like, even that was still good. You know, MLW for all of its thoughts, 571 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:03,520 faults. When it comes time to go in the ring, it can go. Yes. Two hours of nonstop action. 572 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:11,040 Are they okay? No, I like it. I like it. We'll see if they can carry that momentum. But in the 573 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,840 meanwhile, I think we've said about all we can with this. Take the hat off so we can do a proper 574 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:22,320 outro. I'm Rob Cammer of the MLW Confusion podcast. You can find that wherever you happen to get your 575 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:29,280 podcasts. Muffins Martinez. We're going audio with this now. You guys are breaking into the audio 576 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:36,000 business as well. Yes. So the same thing went into whatever you use to podcast. Spotify, Apple, 577 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:43,760 I mean, even Pandora. We're definitely getting into that. So yeah, it's still in YouTube. So 578 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:50,560 we're still here. 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