Hey everyone, another edition of the Urban Wrestling Network.
I'm Rob Kay of the MLW Confusion podcast.
With me today is the always magnificent Muffins Martinez.
We're going to break down the world of MLW.
They came off a banger of a pay-per-view,
at least in my humble opinion.
Feel free to disagree with me.
That's why I got invented comment sections below.
Yeah, I think we should just go ahead and jump right in,
because not a whole lot happened outside of the event as of right now.
So we're going to jump in.
First match was a lot of fun.
I thought it was the Chamber of Horrors match,
the second-year crew consisting of
Vance Warner and Matthew Justice,
taking on calling members Jeff Cannonball and Talon.
What did you think, Muffins?
Hey, man, I usually do not get into these type of matches,
but for some reason I got into this match.
Matthew Justice surprised me with some of the moves that he was doing there.
I mean, Talon, or I'm sorry, Cannonball took a lot of bumps,
especially when they put the pump can on top of his head.
I wouldn't fit in.
They still pushed it down.
That probably hurt the most out of anything in that match, really.
Yeah, so that was the funny part.
And then the ending, I was like, God, don't do that.
Don't do that same ending.
WCW, Halloween Havoc, when I blew the butcher,
it got electrocuted to end the match.
That was the same way they ended this talent getting electrocuted.
And they killed them.
Basically, he died just like one of the butcher died back in 2000 or whenever.
That Halloween Havoc show happened.
And I'm thinking to myself, well, I guess you could still do the same finishes 20 years later.
And if people don't remember, it'll be the first time they've seen it.
But I was like, oh, my God, they got to build the butcher finish.
And they killed Talon.
He got electrocuted.
He's dead.
Loki, this was one of the matches I was really looking forward to,
because the original Chamber of Horrors match, which I think is in 1991,
but don't hold me to that one either,
was terrible in the best way possible,
especially when you throw in some of WCW's camera gaffes of lately catching the lever
that had already fallen down and whatnot.
So at least MLW didn't do that.
But I was very curious to see what kind of schlock we were going to get out of it.
And then also, I'm a big fan of just wild brawls, too.
So I knew with the four individuals in this match, it was going to be that.
I definitely didn't expect a coast to coast summer solstanton, though.
Like that was bloody amazing.
And I don't know.
That Halloween holiday was back in 1991?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
OK.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
But that is yeah.
Wow.
OK.
I didn't think you I I was thinking like 2000 for some reason or something there,
but 91 definitely takes a back more.
Oh, yeah.
But times a circle, you know, everything old is new again.
And and and really for this pay-per-view,
because I haven't seen it.
Definitely check it out.
MLW borrowed heavily from WCW actually from like that specific Halloween havoc anyway,
but the Chamber of Poors match.
They had tombstones and all that good stuff set up in the entryway, which I love.
Oh, yeah.
Pieces like that.
So that was great.
They even had a shout out to Sean Ross Sapp because he died because he leaked the wrong information.
And then we had a Halloween phantom.
I like the entrance and how everything was set up.
So yeah, I enjoyed how the rushes came out and everything was set up nice.
I was OK.
You know, it's a nice Halloween themed, even though it was the 14th of October,
nowhere near Halloween.
But yeah, if you can't get the venue, you know, that close, then, you know, so be it.
But yeah, I thought the match was a lot of fun.
Like I didn't expect a five star classic coming out of it.
And I can definitely also see where fans may not enjoy the match because it was definitely
kind of a niche tongue in cheek thing going on.
But I definitely enjoyed it.
It was it was good.
Yeah.
The only thing I could like I would make a complaint about is that like cannibal no selling
some of those chair shots.
Yeah.
He got conchared out and he was still on his feet.
Like I don't care how big you are.
Like,
Mans Warner and Matthew Justice are pretty big dudes, too.
I mean, they just don't happen to weigh 400 pounds.
But you know, Mansor is just a couple of just shorter than I am.
And he's pretty stocky and the justice is pretty stacked, too.
Yeah.
When you get hit like that, you have to go down, man.
At least.
Yeah.
And I know they're I know they're trying to put cannibal over as, you know, the behemoth
of the calling or at least this iteration of the calling.
But, you know, that but that's a minor complaint compared to the rest of the match.
Like it didn't it didn't take me out of the moment.
It didn't, you know, it didn't ruin anything for me because, you know, there's so much other
stuff going on.
Though I did think it was interesting and I don't know if this this is any bit of poor
chat.
It was well as much as I come from the hood.
But while Allen is still there, twisting, I noticed that cannibal just passed off.
Left out in the chair.
He didn't like come check on him.
Didn't.
Yeah.
Didn't do anything.
He left them there.
They left them for dead.
Yeah.
There's a reason.
Yeah.
Nobody will happen to talent or next tapings.
Yeah.
But other than that, yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed the match.
I thought it was a lot of fun and, hey, Mark, on the calendar, Muffins enjoyed what should
have been a garbage match.
I will shuck myself.
I'll be honest because I even sit.
I even told my brother he's seeing they watching.
I said, I'm actually enjoying this match.
But he was serious of price too.
Yeah.
It was a lot of fun.
I thought going to the next match, going to the other end of the spectrum
was the title for title.
I don't want to call it a unification match because it's not unification,
but my brain is broken.
CMML historic welterweight championship versus MLW middleweight championship.
First signing of the new promotion, a Sturrada, Rocky Romero, taking on the callings, a Kira.
Just for me, starting the party, like I this this match, I feel is a coming out party for a Kira.
Yes.
I've been a fan of a Kira for quite a bit now and I've no and he hasn't been able to show it,
but I've been aware of it.
But like the dude can wrestle and MLW has just been kind of like showing him off in these brawls.
And he's finally got to show like where the catch in catch death comes into play.
And like he he was actually over with the crowd to the crowd was really behind him.
Like we talked about how the calling is goes over like a wet part.
And like this was not the case for a Kira and he was in full on almost baby face mode.
Like he holed up later on when we had shenanigans with the other gas mask goons.
Like he kind of called them off Selena, which I thought was interesting,
which also kind of like foreshadow what's going on later in the show and can be in the future.
But it seemed like a cure was really out to like show that this he could do this on his own.
And well, spoiler, it didn't quite work that way. But like,
dude just showed he should be he could be a major he could be a main event player in MLW if he sticks around.
I have not been a fan of a Kira since he came in with the calling because everything that I
seen has been nothing but just brawling and all that kind of announces match.
This match surprised me and turned my opinions up by him to a positive
because I actually saw him wrestle and I'm like, wow, this dude can actually wrestle and he can actually
put on a show like this whole match. Like Rocky O'Rero looked amazing. A Kira looked amazing.
It was perfect motion, no hiccups, no stumbles, nothing was just this perfect nice match.
I mean, even when Selena went outside and beat the shadow of the two guys with the with the stick,
the calling, I thought for a second I thought she was going to turn on Rocky for a minute.
Well, I actually thought she was going to turn on him for a minute, but it never happened.
Rocky, you know, came out and got the win. Now he's got two belts. Now he held he has up to
Friday to rampage our AEW to wrestle mystical from CMLL. So everybody now is trying to jump
into this close promoting, trying to go into Mexico and try to bring some of these guys over
Japan and I'm here for it. I love it. I will surprise Rocky one to be honest with you.
I was surprised. I thought I would have won, but yeah, now they take that title to Mexico and
we'll see if maybe we get to see, you know, one of the guys from MLW go out there to Mexico,
see him at the show and see what happens. I'm hoping it happens. I'm actually surprised that
Rocky won. I figured either a, Akira would win or B, it would be some sort of schmaw's and it would
get thrown out. And so everybody got to keep their belts. And I just say this not because Rocky
doesn't deserve it, but one, I did kind of question how long Rocky was going to be around,
just because he has so much going on. Again, he's, for those of you not aware, he's one of the main
talent liaisons for New Japan in addition to being an active wrestler in both New Japan,
CMLL and now AEW. So the dude's all over the place. So I didn't know if this would be a one
up for him just because you can't be everywhere. I think I've even seen him wrestle a couple times
in the impact, right? Probably. Yeah. But I mean, it doesn't, but I guess this shouldn't surprise
you because he does have history in MLW. He has popped up for spots here and there. And of course,
he's a great get for promotion on his Dorada. And they started off like really their first real
match with the bang too. And Selena even showing that she, you know, she's, she is going to be
even more hands on than she may have been before. Getting involved in getting involved physically,
which is the one thing I didn't like is I didn't like that she actually ran off the calling dudes.
The calling is supposed to be like these bad, like bloodthirsty dudes. And then they got run
off by Selena, but she showed that you cannot one, you cannot mess with a woman. Right.
Dude, you cannot mess with a Puerto Rican woman with a stick. So, you know, either you get beat
up with a chunk, which is, uh, you know, flip flop or you give it up with a, with a candle stick
or something. She just showed already have the candle stick in the chunk of any day.
So that just, that just put, that just make sure that she's there. She's a true player.
She's going to be here. And Rocky Romero broke gold into promo center Dorado
since first goal since the parks had it like two, three years ago when she was there. So
I was happy for this. Yeah. I mean, it was all around great matching. Like this might be my
match of the night. Honestly, like just again, just the comment, like all, all of the drama
that came around it. And again, like, you know, as I said, I've always been a fan of Akira. Like,
I may have been like the sole voice of like, yeah, Akira on this year show. But tonight, or that
Saturday night, he, you know, showed every, he proved his downers. And so I, and I'm really
excited to see where, where he's going from, from there. But we'll, we'll say this is not the last
we'll see of Akira spoiler. So we'll keep moving on. Speaking of the calling are as well, our next
match is for the national open weight championship. Spin the wheel, make the deal more WCW 1991.
The one called manders takes on the calling is Ricky Shane Page. I was really hoping that like,
if they're going to go full call a call back, I was really kind of hoping for a coal miners
love match. But you know, whatever, I was also hoping for, you know, loser has to be nice to me
since manders is kind of a dick or, you know, a loser has to drink a good beer because neither
of those gentlemen drink good beer. But I didn't think the last two would actually happen at all.
That was just me being a neck beard. I just thought out of all the different options,
false count anywhere match was the one that came out. And when I really,
out of all the things they could think of, that's the one that they came out with.
Well, and I think at a certain level, you didn't want to go too crazy with the gimmick,
especially since we have the chamber of horrors there. Either we didn't want to get like,
necessarily too creative or do anything that would, I don't know, liken itself to the chambers of
horrors matching, though, like, there's not a whole lot like it, but I could see where they just,
I don't know, maybe want to keep it quasi tamish or at least cut down on some of the
weapons usage after that match. Just just just just for the sake of being different. But yeah,
false count anywhere. Like the big thing that came out of this match is that we never, we didn't get
to see the match technically in its entirety. The match started, our competitors went to the back,
and then they just decided they couldn't send a camera down after them for a bit. And like,
I thought they're going to swerve us because they didn't want us to see like gorilla position,
which that's fine. Don't want to see where the magic happens. But I figured like after like,
30 seconds of babbling on, like they would cut to the back and like, Oh, here they are. And like,
no, we just went to our next match. Yeah, just like that. Yes. I was surprised. I was shocked
on what the hell that just happened here. Yeah. And then we had like two more matches
before we got got the finish of this here match. We got like little like little chunks of like,
Oh, they're in the electrical area. Oh, they're in the ring truck. Yes. Yes. Like, but we only get
like a minute or two of action. I was surprised when you hit the basement of the venue. Oh, they're
in the bathroom. Somebody got flushed. Oh, it could have been was it was it was it hammer and
Pagano? Was it? Yeah. Someone fell on the roof of the venue. Yes. Yes. But yeah, yeah, when they
were in Mexico, Mexico, yeah, a little girl, a little girl in the other building, you could see
little girl screaming and running into the house. Yeah. That was the best shot I ever seen when I
saw that. There was some stuff that they could have done that maybe would have been more creative
besides just loving each other in a new room. But like, you know, and I don't want to like,
I don't want to poop on the match too terribly much because for what it was that like, that'll
to eventually bell like it was serviceable. But I think they just really try to get over the
skimmick of Falls County anywhere, which I feel it defeats the purpose of it. If you if we can't
watch the entire match and the crowd was definitely not enthused with it. So I think they even figured
if the match left the ring side area that they would get watching on the Toronto whatnot. And
and once Stephen D'Angelo's got into the ring and started announcing the next match, like the
moves were very much audible until the next batch of music hit. So I do kind of like feel bad for
man, there's an energy shame page because like what could what would have been a serviceable match
is going to be overshadowed by this questionable production decision.
Well, I was happy with the next match because I was thinking to myself like what the hell just
happened. But then the next match was down the actual and I was okay. I'm fine with this.
Yeah. I mean, so we'll go right into it. So while they were brawling around, our next match
is Delmy XO versus the MLW Halloween Phantom. I was wrong. I thought they were going to resurrect
Rick Roode because he was the WCW Halloween Phantom. But instead, our Phantom, a member of
promotion is Dorada is one Jenae Kai. And I was disappointed that she didn't come out as like an
actual Phantom. She just came out as Jenae Kai and Wow, but like that's like I didn't see that
coming at all. I mean, I'm not disappointed. Jenae is one of my favorite favorite female
independent wrestlers. And actually when we were brainstorming our short list of who could be
the first female member of the Beaumayes, she was on my list. She was like number two after Jordan
Blade because just because of how her style is. But yeah, and just to add to the insanity, like
we had a good match. Delmy friend of the show, Delmy XO, unfortunately did not retain the title.
But she put up a value fight. A couple of those kicks were that she took were pretty rough. Like
one, I don't know how much was like real or how much of it was just really good selling. But when
Delmy was on the ring apron and she took that kick to the ribs after like she like act like that
wasn't a yell. Like that was a bellow. Like that was like that was low and deep. Like it came
directly from the lungs and like, oh, well, after the match and now Jenae Kai is the new
further weight champion. I had two questions right there. One that happened. One is she signed
with LMO W for her to win the title because I was like, whoa, hold up. I never seen something
that before that somebody just comes in and wins the title and not even announced that she signed.
And two, she kind of beat the crap out of Delmy XO too. Like Delmy didn't have too much
offense in this match at all. So I was like, kind of like, okay, like what is going on here?
Yeah, like I'm not I'm not terribly surprised Delmy lost because I figure like it just how the
promotional packages were leading up to this point. Like Delmy didn't really figure much into the
promotion of promotion. It's been all like it's all been Becca like their Becca this, Becca that,
Becca and Love Doug. And so Becca would have won but she didn't even see what's in the power of the match.
And Becca is now you know on house arrest and or prevented from wrestling by her record label.
So like I kind of feel like I wonder I kind of like I have wonder if Jani is kind of like a placeholder.
I don't necessarily want to pull on a placeholder like they'll do something with her.
But I wonder if they just kind of went like, well, let's have a title change anyway, and we'll give it to
Jani. And so we'll see what happens. Like I'm hoping Delmy sticks around but considering like how
little she's been involved kind of like with with the promotional packaging and whatnot,
the lack of like updated promos and whatnot. I wouldn't surprise me if she's done for a bit,
especially with her with her obligations with in Germany because she's been doing the international
travel over there. And then she's also for those of you who may have missed it, she's also running
her own promotion out in Massachusetts as well per person grind, which is actually like the reason
one of the reasons she missed last month's MLWs like they both had a show at the same time.
And what's great about this is that now for the most, has their second title of the night
now being a further one title. And they have mentioned early in the night that another Japanese
star was coming in, Miyu Yamashita was coming in, which now makes me wonder of the match coming
up next month being between Jenaikai, because Miyu, because if that's going to happen, that's
going to be a kick fest. Oh yeah. Those ladies are nothing but kick demons. It's going to be
ugly the best way possible. Yes, there's going to be nothing but kicking everything around.
Somebody's definitely going to get their head kicked off in that match. So I'm hoping that
that matches what's going to happen. I mean, there's not a hundred percent in stone, but after seeing
Jenaikai win the title, okay, now I think we're going to go into that match now again. Sorry. So
which I'm hoping that what actually happens. Yeah. And I mean, just think about logistically,
like as much as a boon Jenaikai coming in is there's still not much of a women's division
overall right now too. And so like, yes, we're bringing in someone from Japan with some name
value to continue a partnership with the New Japan family. But like other options really are
Delmi, which we're not sure if she's, we may not be sure if she's sticking around. Jenaikai,
who's the most obvious bet, Becca, who's on the shelf, Tiara James, which I'm no offense to her,
but I'm not sure if I like that would, I don't know if she's ready for that yet, at least in
terms of card placement. Definitely not ready for that. So really, who else are you going to do
unless you're going to bring someone else in to have that match? Definitely too green for her yet.
And I'm just like, you can even just name value alone. Yeah. Like no offense to Tiara, but when
you do something like that, like you're going to, you're just going to expect it to be a squash.
And then if it's an upset happens, like, yes, she can be made, but a lot of us are just going to be
like, what was that? Like, why would you do that? Why would you bring in someone of such name value
just to dump on them? And it's like, but speaking of bringing people in from Japan, next match,
angry murder grandpa, yeah, Suzuki taking on Jacob Fattu. I love myself some murder grandpa.
Yeah, this match was everything we expected it to be. And the crowd was so hyped for it. They
were they were already chanting, this is awesome. And given us our first fecal chant of the evening,
and they hadn't even locked up yet. Like standing across from each other and the crowd was just
eating it up. And Suzuki just has like such presence about him to begin with,
that he just stand there and not even make a face where there's, you know, and not to take
anything away from Fattu. Obviously, this is one of the marquee matchups you could do.
But you know, this this is just the spectacle of seeing Suzuki.
I mean, it's amazing how famous Suzuki is when he comes into town. I mean, Tuesday night,
he was wrestling an AEW belt night or whatever night of the belts against Eddie Kingston.
Friday night, he was also glory. And then Saturday night, he's wrestling against Jacob Fattu.
So if anybody, you know, if you live in New York for those two last two matches,
you would have seen them back to back nights. But I love this match. It was hard hitting.
And at the end of our surprise, Miss Suzuki won, you know, because that just what I think
now that's like two losses in the row for Jacob Fattu in the pay-per-views now.
Yeah. And I'm kind of surprised because usually Suzuki ends up and when he at least when he's
in America, usually puts over talent as well. Like they kind of like they use him, you know,
they let their talent get the win over him. Usually in very good matches, not to say that
they're just jobbing him out. But like, it's usually a hard hitting affair that ultimately
the talent who wins deserves it. Like looking at the Eddie Kingston match, there was a point
where for nearly a solid consecutive minute, Suzuki was getting chopped in that match. So like
Eddie Kingston earned it because Suzuki just stood there for a solid minute, just taking
blow after the blow to the chest and lower neck area. So the same thing, you know, applies to
this match. It was hard hitting. It was, it was a showcase for both these guys. I was surprised
Suzuki won because I definitely figured they was going to, they would give it to Fattu.
But, you know, I'm not going to complain about Suzuki winning because I honestly, I was rooting
for him more than Fattu, but bigger Suzuki than I am to Fattu. Again, I love me some murdered
grandpa. And the thing, and the thing I'll put over here too, the commentary, the comment, Joe
Dombrovsky and Matt Stryker were on their game for this match. You know, I know Stryker is very
hit and miss. Like he can be kind of annoying and kind of like turn you off the things, but like
waiting on his game. Yeah, he can be like, he's, but it depends on where he's at at any given moment.
But when he's on his game, he is low key one of the best out there. And him and Joe called that
match amazing, really put over Fattu and his achievements and how much this match could mean
to him. It put over, you know, they put, and they really put over like, Oh, it's been like Suzuki
doesn't get rocked this hard this early in a match. He doesn't get knocked down this early in a match.
Like, say what you say what you want about, you know, Fattu, but he's bringing to Suzuki early,
and there's a legit sense of danger going on right now. And, you know, they also, they also,
and they also put over Suzuki for his 30 years of, you know, high level professional wrestling
as one of the inventors of Pancreas, the modern precursor to most of our MMA promotions nowadays,
most of the UFC. And so like, the, like, so what was already going to be an amazing match just in
the ring? Kyle Stryker and Joe took it up to the next level, especially compared to like the rest
of the matches, like that, not to say that the commentary was bad the rest of the show, but like
they went from like five to 10 almost instantly. Yeah, people forget that Suzuki was like one of
those early guys that were fighting MMA style before he became into this big craze the last,
like what, five years? So I mean, 20 years ago, he was out there in his 30s, you know, fighting
that type of style and we didn't care about it because nobody cared about MMA back then.
Yeah, at that point, like at that point, what was the grandfather of MMA was basically starting in
Japan. And but yeah, the dude's going out there and having these kind of matches in his 50s.
Yes. And that's even more amazing. Yeah, just the hits he's taking at that age, like a lot of our
guys that are in their 50s, like may still be having like good matches, but they're not,
not taking that kind of beating or not taking that kind of beating consistently. And as you
pointed out, Suzuki wrestled three, three matches that week, which is kind of a heavy workload for
any wrestler out there. And then again, working his style where he gets where he hits hard and gets
hit hard, like as well as just, you know, for him to do it at a high level. Didn't they finish though
SRP match after, in manders after this, right? Yeah, that's yeah. So so our little, like I was
kind of worried like overall, because like we had all these bangers that sometimes, especially before
a main event, you need something to kind of like cleanse the palette and bring you down. And like
this is where the hardcore, the Falls County anywhere match for the national open weight
championship kind of came back into play. So we're wrapping, so we're wrapping this match up. And
wouldn't you know, like we've been kind of calling free up to this point. And then here's Akira,
just he just sauntered. I love it because he just sauntered to the ring. Like he didn't,
there was no sense of urgency or anything. He just walked to the ring with a smug look on his face.
And manders being the idiot that he is just instantly went after him, even though he was
just wandering ringside. He didn't even like come at anybody and mangers throws and this is a lariat.
And then Ricky Shane Page uses Akira for a meat shield and kind of shoves him,
us shoves him off to manders who takes his head off, allowing enough of a distraction for Ricky
to hit a DDT on the, on the unprotected floor to pick up the victory. So Ricky Shane Page wins
the match. Also interesting stuff that I keep forgetting to throw out there. The one called
manders has never beaten Ricky Shane Page except for one match, which he had the second gear crew
and John Moxley on his side. So in a four on four match, he beat Ricky Shane Page. But all their
other encounters, Ricky has won all the calling has won, et cetera. So continue with the trend.
Yeah. And the interesting thing is that he keeps the national title, right? National open title,
open weight. And he's also half of the tag team champion with Akira. So yeah, and interesting
going forward. How's it going to work together after all this mess from Saturday night?
And for those who missed it after the match, Akira is like, dude, what was that? He done shoved me
and Page is like, whatever, man, I did what I needed to. And, and then I shoved Akira back
to the ground and walked off. So we definitely have, so we definitely have a schism brewing in
the calling, which is often says like, it's also very interesting because in addition to the singles
goal that both members had, or at least had up to this pay-per-view, they were both, they are both
the world tag team champions as well. So they at a certain level are going to be forced to continue
to coexist until we figure out what's going on here. And the same group called the calling. So
yeah, also otherwise. So even if they, if this was a possible expelling of Akira, like they still
are going to be stuck together until they drop that, drop the title. Oh, they turn on him.
Yeah, like that's, I'm curious. So I'm definitely curious to see how this is going. So Akira was
already acting like a face before. And if he has the calling going against him, like that's just
going to further like bring a crowd up on him. The way that the fans treated him Saturday night,
he might be twisting around because I'm pretty sure out of everybody there, he got a real good
reaction from that night from the fans. So I think honestly, his reaction was probably like the fourth,
like the fourth loudest of anybody. I think he got a better reaction than Fox, you did at least
initially. Oh, yes. Yes. I was surprised. Yeah. But like the only people that got got bigger reactions
are Suzuki, which is to be expected. And then our main event competitors as well. So but like this,
this is one of our big questions coming into this week's fusion is what's happening next with
with the calling. But speaking of more questions than answers, our main event is next, we reference
it. Bon Myer for the people, Alex Kane versus last minute replacement, Filthy Tom Lawler.
Also, banger of the match. I'll let you start the start the party on this one, Muffins. What
would you think? Well, first of all, I was surprised when David Boyd Smith, you know, pulled out and
then we found out what happened later on. And then they announced that it was gonna be some
lot of you know, Tom Lawler. And I'm thinking about them didn't the dude just left not even what
not even two years ago. It's been two years already. Yeah. Oh, wow. Shit. So every time I think
it's I think it's time I think it's like a year or less or always something longer than that. So
he came back, you know, to the match and he picked up where he left off, you know, being there. I
mean, the same Tom Lawler, you know, halfway to the match he pulled down his his his trunks
George show. And yeah, they see dude, they see do so and I'll be laughing about them. My brother
loves that he loves him because like he's always funny with the shorts. But hell of a match.
Hard hitting match. Tom Lawler, I think he was brought in to for Kane to kind of elevate Kane
and kind of make sure that Kane had a strong opponent because Tom Lawler is strong as hell.
I mean, I mean that he's a strong opponent that will definitely will elevate King's title ship
championship, you know, pretty great more. And you know, the match was crazy. The ending was crazy.
And then what happened afterwards was even more. Oh, yeah. I wasn't expecting no that stuff afterwards.
So that wasn't a whole different thing. But yeah, I love the match. And I love that he came in,
you know, they got a good replacement for Dave Boyce Smith. Now, you know, now we'll see
how long Dave Boyce Smith is going to be out for. And if he does and when he does come back,
does he get a title match with that he was old? So it's going to be interesting going forward to
see what happens and who comes in and stuff like that. So yeah, speedy recovery to Dave Boyce
Smith. That was crazy. Going out like once we once they finally revealed the reason that he
pulled out. And if you missed it, he had a severe bout of appendicitis. And it turns out he's got
some diverticulitis. So in addition to emergency apodectomy, he lost a bit of his colon as well.
So like this wasn't some like K-Fa, usual MS, no, usual MLW bullshit. Like, no, this was legit.
Like they like life in a death situation. Yeah, this was serious. You know, so I mean, so it's for
the, you know, given the reason like, yeah, okay, he had to be pulled it. Well, there was nothing we
could do about it. But like, in my opinion, like, yes, the story was there for Davey Boyce and Kane,
but Lawlor, I felt elevated the match because Davey Boyce has kind of like flown under the radar,
like for the most part in America, outside of his stint in the WWE, but like after he left the WWE,
like his highest profile was really MLW. And he hasn't been, you know, a big part of MLW
in a couple of years either. But Lawlor, on the other hand, not only does he have the MLW
pedigree of being an MLW champion, like he's out there on the Indies killing it, the New Japan
Strong champion, the inaugural New Japan Strong champion. And then he's, you know, bouncing around
the Indies, the higher level Indies as well, putting on banger after banger. And the dude's,
and the dude comes off legit, like he can go in the ring. And he's one of those characters that
can just exudes charisma about him. He knows how to play a crowd. And that's one of the things I
love about him. And this Suzuki is another one kind of does it too, where like you can be, he's
one of those guys that like, once the bell rings, like he's going to go, but like because he's so
tough and badass, like he doesn't have to act it. Like he could do all this stupid stuff, because
it doesn't matter. He's kicking your head in or choking you out. So like I did think this
elevated the match. And I think this became, this was, this is the statement win that we've been
waiting for for Alex Kane, you know, no offense to Hammerstone, because I mean, yes winning the
championships, a big deal. But again, like it's how long, how you defend the title is going to be
how people remember you. And no offense intended to Willie Mack, who his match with Kane was a banger.
But you know, Willie Mack is, you know, people just don't see Willie Mack at that level for,
you know, whatever reason, despite having that talent, they just don't see him as a worthy competitor.
Whereas Lawler has gone out and shown that, you know, he's winning some big title belts
on some pretty big platforms. So yeah, yeah. So but so Lawler brought it. Kane obviously brought
it to match him like the match was crazy good. I didn't think Kane was going to lose the title,
don't get me wrong. But the match was still amazing, especially in sequence where they started
like trading chokes or runic and chokes. And then they brought out the type of Bret Hart finish
from things like WrestleMania nine, bouncing off the turnbuckle and getting a pin off of
off a sleeper hold. So like that was that was great. But yeah, like the match itself, like I
think it was the statement when that Alex Kane needed overall. And then of course, the aftermath,
the pure chaos that come after that, Mr. Saint Laurent finally comes out, they teased him at
the beginning, but he didn't come out with Lawler. Zach Ryder, excuse me, Matt Cardona comes out,
you know, wants the peasants to bow to the deathmatch king. And it's finally pretty much calling
his shot for the World Heavyweight Championship, which like I will admit, I was wrong in my prediction.
I figured he'd get the title, they'd put him in the given the title slaughterhouse,
but it looks like we're going to have to wait another month.
Yeah, fight, fight land. Yeah, fight land's the next show. So it looks like fight land,
but that's going to be probably be our main event off that unless I don't think Dave was
coming back that soon off what he's gone through. But yeah, so Cardona comes out, they has fight,
and the background like turns out filthy Tom didn't leave the ring area and just suckered
chairs. Mr. Thomas, which I like, I thought was hilarious because I love stuff like that,
where I don't quite see what's happening all of a sudden, the guy's just dead.
And that surprised me because once he pulled out of the ring, you know, he went to complain to
the announcers. I'm thinking, okay, he comes back, now we're going to shift from that to this year.
And all of a sudden, like you said, it goes with the chair. I said, oh, shit, hold on,
I wasn't expecting you all to be getting involved with this. I'm thinking it was like kind of a
one off match thing, you know, slowly get out and leave and nobody notices you left. But
I love it because that means that he's probably part of the San Loren crew. Yeah, and I will see
the WTF against the Boomerang Club. And if that happens, between them two and Snisky
against the Boomerang Club, sign me up. And that right there could be the main event for Fireland.
That could be. Say, or nothing else. There we go. Or, you know, they can keep it on the
back burner, keep the feud going, regardless of what's going on with the World Championship,
but keep it on the back burner and we could push that through to War Chamber.
Which would be in... I don't think that's until the new year.
Okay, because I know December is going to be one shot, right?
Yeah, I believe so.
And then didn't they already announce one for January, but they don't know the venue yet?
Something like that. Basically, if they didn't announce a venue, I'm just assuming it's not
existing yet. Hopefully, hopefully it's not in New York. Jesus, get out of there already.
Yeah, I want them to... I know Dallas, Fort Worth has been a hotbed for them, but I'm saluted
a bit for the concept of them coming back to Chicago just because there's a potential for me to get
out of it. Yeah, that's just me being selfish. And they hadn't shown there before since several
couple of times. And those places on the TV aspect, all those fans do, it was always packed.
Well, my source, my actual source, not my cat, who usually gives me my wrestling stuff,
my actual source told me that they... The hat, the hat has your source?
Yeah.
Yeah, the hat.
You go ahead and get it in. We'll double hat it.
My actual source said that they basically had a deal with the venue that they used,
and then that venue, for wrestling purposes, was exclusive. So no wrestling is coming to that venue.
Next to no wrestling is coming to that venue. So they just don't have another place in Chicago
and I don't know if that's the entire reason they're not coming back to Chicago,
haven't been coming to Chicago, but that's at least one of the four gone.
Well, isn't the same place Cicero or whatever it's pronounced?
Like Cicero?
Yeah, Cicero.
Yeah.
Because I know Impact just had a show there a couple of weeks ago in Cicero, but I don't know what
venue they used though.
Yeah, and I don't know, maybe it was Impact that was cock-blocking everybody. I don't...
Okay.
My source wouldn't actually name names. He just said they lost the venue because the venue
went exclusive for its source entertainment.
Yeah, because Impact was there. I wanted to say a couple of weeks ago they were there.
And it may not have been the same venue. I don't remember. I just had a talk with my source.
It was like a month ago. We just shot the breeze because I don't do real journalism.
Like I try not to... I try to stay out of the dirt, honestly.
Yeah, we were just shooting the shit and he's got his connections in MLW and he's just like,
Hey, oh, you know, you do this. Like this is what's going on. I'm like,
Okay, noted on my invisible notepad.
You know, as I'm like hiding in like Des Moines, Iowa or getting my news,
because that's where all the news happens is in Des Moines, Iowa.
So now out of a five star, what did you give the show?
Oh, see, I don't do star ratings. So I have to actually kind of think of this. But like, I would say,
honestly, I would give it four. I could probably put... If you put a gun to my head,
I could say 4.5. But the National Openweight Championship with how they handled that.
Like that brought it down a bit. And just like we'll call some smaller like aesthetic things.
Like again, I was disappointed that we advertised a Phantom and we didn't get a Phantom.
No, that's that's that's that's a quarter star right there. We didn't get a Phantom.
But you wanted the herd to come out with a mask and a cape?
Oh, yeah, yeah, I definitely then, you know, have a bigger feel.
Yeah, like, yeah, that would even cool you.
Like, you don't need to be elaborate with it. Just like have a shawl over your head.
Just, you know, Dracula. Pretend you're a plan nine and you know, you're not Bella Lagosky because
he died and just, you know, do this and then it's time and boom, like that's all you had to do.
Yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. That was something little that they could have done to kind of like
add to the aesthetic. Because again, they advertised a Phantom and instead we just got
Genai Kai. Well, who's afraid of Genai Kai? Well, everyone gets kicked by her.
So I was the same way. I won with a four. I couldn't be I was thinking the 4.5. But then that
middleweight title match and all those shit, you know, two matches later for them to come back
and I was like, oh, no, man. And then killing Talon there like the deal with the butcher
back in 91. I was having nightmares of murders again. I know God, they killed all the guy again.
So I would have four. See what they should have done if they were they should have done is gone
full Abdullah and then brought out the zombie medics and had Talon had Talon and somebody else
and Cannonball start fighting each other and then fighting the medics. Go full Halloween havoc with
it. Well, and to take it once they're further bring out the butcher. I don't think he's capable
of being brought out anywhere at this point in his life. He would have been out there.
Boom, just stabbing people with a fork or something. Someone would be pushing him in a wheelchair.
You're not supposed to cut that guy. He's in the way, brother.
Yeah. Now, I'll be honest. This is the third MLW pay review that they come back monthly now.
And I'm telling you honestly, it is getting better and better. Yeah, this is my favorite.
This is my favorite. Like the first one was my favorite. The second one was my favorite. And then
this is my favorite out of all of them now. Yeah. And reasoning for this. Yeah. And reasoning for
this one, like the bell to bell action has been stellar. Like, and again, like our main complaint
with the one match we didn't like was the fact that they just didn't let it be a match. They had
to make it a weird gimmick thing. And then two, this is really like the first pay per view,
our live events that they did that seem to have actual storyline consequences. Yes. Like
this every other pay per view answered questions. And like, oh, yeah, I'm interested in see what's
next because Alex came on the title, but that doesn't really ask a question. Like he doesn't
set up any storylines. It's just like, yeah, but my day, you know, they didn't like give us a whole
lot to sink our teeth into and wonder what if coming on for coming forward. And now we have at
least two big things coming coming up that I as a fan, I want to have answers to. And that, you
know, what's going on with the Kira and the calling and what's going on with WTF and the
pomayas. Yes. And then two great storylines at that too. So yeah. And then, you know, we tertiary,
we have Selena de la Renta promising more luchedores coming in, especially for Fightlin.
And now I'm interested to see who she's going to bring because I know for a fact,
Rocky will be back to defend the title. So I want to see who she's going to bring and hopefully
you'll be a female, you know, this time around. So right. Well, and I'm hoping that they stay around
for the tapings too. And that's something we've been lacking. We've been lacking with our special
guests. They've come in for the pay-per-view itself. And then, which I get, like, you know,
we can ask them for the whole month. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was, you loved it. We all loved it.
So we've said about all we can say about Fightlin. Fightlin's the next one. About
Slaughterhouse. Yeah. If you guys haven't seen it yet, especially if you already have Fightplus,
check it out. It really belled a bell. It was great. And honestly, like the things we
complained about are really minor, big picture-wise. It was nothing that actively ruined our enjoyment
of the show. Obviously, we still rated it four, you know, four stars. And we totally pooped on
the false counting match. We didn't say a whole lot of positive about it. You know. So like,
it was still, like, even that was still good. You know, MLW for all of its thoughts,
faults. When it comes time to go in the ring, it can go. Yes. Two hours of nonstop action.
Are they okay? No, I like it. I like it. We'll see if they can carry that momentum. But in the
meanwhile, I think we've said about all we can with this. Take the hat off so we can do a proper
outro. I'm Rob Cammer of the MLW Confusion podcast. You can find that wherever you happen to get your
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