Greetings from Bishop Aubrey Shines and G2G Ministries
in Tampa, Florida. We pray that you would be
blessed and encouraged by the biblical message
you are about to hear. Today's classic sermon
by Bishop Shines is part six of Jehovah's Witnesses
from the Comparative Religion series with the
reference scripture John chapter 1 verse 1 in
the King James and amplified classic translations.
According to Thier's Greek lexicon, and I gave
you the page where it's located as well, who
is known authority, who is a known authority
means Equal in quality as in quantity to claim
for to claim for oneself the nature rank Authority
which belonged to God John 5 and 18. Alright,
let me stop there and let me give you a few notes
to take down Please take this down because several
of you have asked me about this for really some
months and I need to reemphasize this again Saints,
please hear my heart when I say this to you.
Don't just put money on your back Don't just
put it on your heads, on your feet. Don't just
take care of yourself without first nourishing
and giving nutrition to your spiritual man. Please
write this down. You need several tools to work
with. Let me give you some of those tools. I
hope you already have them in your library. If
not, if you would let me know, I can get a discount.
Through the ministry to help you but several
tools you need number one not necessarily in
this order But you need these number one you
need an amplified Bible an Amplified Bible number
two. I think what would help you you also need
a living Bible It's very simplistic it will help
Number three again not necessarily in this chronology,
but you need all of these items you need a strong
and a Hebrew Concordance that is a strong and
a Hebrew concordance Now before I give you several
more, let me ask a question. How many you use
your PC your laptop for your Bible study anybody
in here the majority of us in here use it you
use it as well of on Scott no, um Let me see
the hands again before I give out this information.
How many don't use it? Okay, we have a majority.
I better give you all in the book This is just
for those of you then that use it if you are
looking for a good product And I hope I say this
one right it is the the PC. Oh, I have to give
it to you I'm sorry if you're interested in the
Electronic part of studying the reason I want
to give that out is because a lot of these Commentaries
are on a CD -ROM There was a time if you if you
don't mind me taking a quick break to say this
when I used to travel back in the late 70s early
90s one of my Suitcases was nothing but books
that I would travel it to a revival So I would
have a garment bag I would have my regular suitcase
for my undergarments and shoes Etc and the other
suitcase and this is when they're all airlines
allowed you to take three pieces I would then
carry with me a big old suitcase of nothing but
books I have if you ever seen a Strong's Hebrew
Concordance the big ones are about this big and
then the Bibles I'd have three four five different
Bibles I'd have three different commentaries
and I would travel with all these books and boy
I would feel so bad if they were to send me an
adjutant to pick me up from the airport who may
have been a little elderly and they wanted to
lift my bags I would tell them don't just let
me help you because my bag would be so heavy
it would almost give you a hernia just to try
to lift this thing up but if you if you want
the electronic information if you see me If you
see me next week, I'll give it to you. I'll give
it to you I'll make sure that I write it down
and give it to you But if you're not then you're
gonna have to purchase these books, please take
this next one down You also need a and this is
what these are three separate names, but it's
one book It's a commentary and the commentary
is by Jamerson Fawcett, I believe that's F A
C U E T T I believe and Brown Jamerson Fawcett
and Brown also Pick up a commentary by Adams.
It's called Adams Commentary. There is also a
German commentary that I cannot tell you how
to spell the name. So I apologize. I'll bring
that next week. You need one of those. Now, Pastor,
this is a lot of books to buy. I know, but trust
me. It will be well worth your investment. And
please hear me. If you are a Christian, how many
Christians do I have here? Every hand should
be raised. If you are a Christian, you need to
get serious about your Bible study. Don't just
be a Christian, come to church Sunday and Tuesday
and let pastor teach, teach, teach. Look this
up yourself. Find out what i'm saying give validity
to what i'm saying one of the things that god
used me in Early on as a matter of fact the gentleman
that has given us so many of the things that
we have As far as videos and that sort of thing
when he and I gave our hearts to the lord When
other young men were out playing ball and hanging
out and doing various things in the summer We
were stuffed up in his little and we still laugh
about it. I talked to him earlier today We were
stuffed up in his little room that couldn't have
been no bigger than this platform up here with
a bed and some swiveled kind of chairs, and we
would sit there with four and five, six, seven,
eight different books open, and we would spend
three to four hours a day in the summer after
work. We would get together and we would spend
time now, of course when you're married You can't
spend that kind of time but every day of your
life. You need to feed your Spirit, please hear
me Don't take this for granted. Don't just come
home and put on the news Don't just come home
and and watch whatever entertains you. Well pastor
I get tired. I want to come home. I don't feel
like using my mind Who told you your mind gonna
get tired? Your mind is no more than an emotional
muscle You can stretch it and you can make it
think thoughts that it ain't I know this ain't
proper, but it ain't thunk in years. I Heard
somebody say that once and I fell out laughing
I thought they were kidding they were serious
touch. I know what you're thunking over there.
I said Oh Lord, I got to steal that one So some
of you look at your neighbor tell your neighbor,
you know, you need to thunk some more And if
you're going to get serious and let me get serious
here if you're going to get serious About who
you are in the spirit, please hear me this I'm
telling you what I'm sharing with you right now
a change of life if you allow it to do so Those
of you that know you have callings and have ministry.
Have you ever wondered why your ministry is not
taken off? Let me tell you perhaps one of the
greatest percent of reasons why is because you
don't know enough Let me make it clear to you
without you being offended God is not going to
even though he'll call you He's not going to
put you in a position where you will make a complete
fool of yourself Make sense. Can you imagine
God opens up a door for you and that door opens
up for you and that door opens for you You ain't
ready to walk in that door Imagine going into
a church you just go in there to visit one day
somebody call you your granny calls you your
or big ma and and Bigfoot or whomever calls you
to come over to the church and the pastor all
of a sudden sees you walk in and he feels led
for some strange reason in his heart to say would
you just come up and have words the Lord has
laid you I don't know you but I just feel you
got a message right now Lord, some of y 'all
will go on I ain't got no message. But you know
what? This is how God does things at times God
will put you in positions and understand this
when you are doing the will of God God will allow
your path to cross the right people But if you
are not ready when that path meets the path that
he has been trying to get you on Even though
he will let that path hit if you're not ready.
Guess what? You're gonna have to answer for why
you were not ready What are you going to say
to god when you stand before god god? I would
have been ready, but Huh, I had things I had
to do during the year where he gave you 50 years
to get ready What you waiting on look at your
neighbor say what you waiting on. Please get
ready All right. So you need those items. You
need those commentaries You need those bibles.
You definitely need that hebrew in that greek
concordance If you need a discount Now, if you
just got it like that and you don't need to save
four or five dollars, whatever it is that we
can get you to save, you know what? Get it, but
if you want to save let me know I get nothing
from it. It's not like I buy so many books I
wish it was but I wish it was like you buy so
many books and they give you ten Oh lord, Jesus.
I'd be I would just go on and be with Jesus Can
I confess to you all? While my wife is not here
wanted a you know how sometimes couples have
issues and if your partner don't raise a hand
just know they're lying and they don't want everybody
to know this but how many know couples go through
things they they just do how many know women
not all the time but women usually have an issue
as it relates to like buying old let's say Anita
shoes or or let's say clothing or so how many
know that that's usually usually the case how
many men know dip that's usually the issue that
women will go out and buy them something to wear
I had a vice as well my vice was buying books
and I got so bad even though it was over our
budget I shouldn't have been buying books just
like some women would go and buy clothes and
sneak them and put them in the trunk oh y 'all
can't relate on this side let me come over here
you know how some people would sneak and put
I would sneak books in the trunk and when the
wife wasn't in I'd grab them by the you know
and run them into the house and try to stick
them in the shelf and she would always now when
you get those books Huh? When'd you get those
books? Oh, baby, you know. Those books are old.
And you know, I was trying to stretch that thing,
you know, old as in copyright was old, but anyway,
y 'all ain't ready for that. Y 'all ain't ready
to be real. Anyway, buy these books. You need
these books. And every day, hear me, every day,
if you don't take nothing, no more than one word.
Look up a new word in scripture every day. Let
it be part of your discipline Trust me. It may
seem like you're a hundred years away from ascertaining
anything great in God But the reality of it is
if you do that every day just one word Outside
of what you learn here and etc If you do that
number one is gonna turn you on you're gonna
begin to study more than one word But if you
study just one word every day at the end of the
year You have learned over 365 different Greek,
Hebrew, Aramaic, Septuagint, Vulgate. You will
understand Dymatrix. You will understand things
as it relates to archaeology. You'll understand
things as it relates to a whole lot of issues
by studying one word a day. Somebody say amen.
Alright, let's go. I gave you the argument last
week. We dealt with the one part. Let me just
read as far as we did. Alright, let's go to the
second paragraph here for the Bible's argument.
Where it says they also claim hear me They also
claim that in as much as christ received life
from his father He could not be co -eternal with
his father now i'm quoting from dr walter martin
and this is a Let me stop i'll make y 'all buy
all books i'm going to tell y 'all to go out
and buy this one too quoting from dr walter martin
a well -known and acknowledged bible scholar
states Taking this text in its context. We readily
see that it cannot mean that Christ derived eternal
Existence from the father now, let's go to it
open your Bible open your Bibles to John 1 and
1 John 1 and 1 Charlotte if you have John 1 and
1 just read that aloud for me. I know it says
in the beginning was the word But we need to
hear it from a place of authenticity. Let's hear
it from the word of god read john one and one
Yes Amen who eric you have the amplified right
read that same portion from the amplify john
one and one That's powerful now watch this look
at look at how to argue this here go back again
to that beginning of the paragraph They also
claim in as much as christ received life from
life rather from his father He could not be co
-eternal with his father quoting from dr. Walden
martin the well -known and acknowledged bible
scholar states Taking this text in its context.
We readily see that it cannot mean that christ
derived eternal existence from the father john
101 bears witness that the word Please underline
this in your bible as well as well as his handout
note what it has the word was God, this is important
that you take note of this, that the word was,
now note, how many have King James, KJVs here?
If you note, your Bible should have a capital
W, amen? As you know, grammar, anytime it is
capitalized, it becomes person, amen? Understand
what it's saying right here. The word, the capital
word, became, or the capital word rather, was
God. Note the rest of it, end quote. Therefore,
eternity was inherent in his makeup. by nature
now let's explain that when he says inherently
the term or the supernatural was inherent by
his nature note what he's talking about he's
talking about the word was god why because if
you read in the very next verse of your bible
you'll read that the word did what read read
verse number two charlotte The same was in the
beginning with God now. This is again made it
person read the next verse for me as well Stop
all things were made by him note when you go
back up to verse number one in your Bible it
has and the word was God note how it did not
separate But it made it one it made him rather
one note here the word of the Lord Note rather
the commentary and we'll go on a little further
here in just a moment. It says The word was God
therefore eternity was inherent in his makeup
by nature in other words eternity has no dimension
as you and I have Eternity in this regard as
John one in one states. It's simple It just simply
meant that God was in the beginning now how many
remember Genesis one? In the beginning was who
oh, I see here John 1 and 1 says in the beginning
was what? And the word was what and then when
you read over into verse number 2 It says and
all things were made by him yet If you go back
to Genesis 1 it says that God capital G created
all things Anybody else have a different version?
All right, let's keep going here then Okay The
logical conclusion must be that the indwelling
quote life end of quote of God of God the word
Entered time in the form of the son of man His
operation the father or and this operation the
father through the agency of the Holy Spirit
gave the son of man to have life in himself the
same life that was eternally his as the Eternal
Word now, this is what we need to get to look
at the next content of this paragraph the term
Equal here is another form of Isen which again
denotes absolute sameness of nature. Now you
need to take another note of this even if you
have to underline the handout that I just gave
you. When you're dealing with a Jehovah's Witness
you need to know this passage especially as it
relates to the Trinity and the reason being and
please I need you to really grab this let your
mind stay focused here is because the word equal
is important Only be called not just because
but part because they try to use the word Equal
and make it mean something that it doesn't how
many remember when I was teaching this some weeks
ago I can't remember what the word was. Oh, I
know what it was. It has something to do with
mystery and and secret In their article and in
their encyclopedias, they, I mean, it's so crazy,
they were trying to tell you that there's a difference
in the word. And if you listen at them, you'll
go, okay, there's a difference, until you go
to a dictionary. Once you go to a dictionary,
it kills the argument because, you know, you
want to be able to say. Why don't they even think
at least to go to the dictionary? Let me tell
you why when a person is operating in error They
have to continue to cover themselves Their hope
is that some of you won't look up the words if
you don't look it up How will you know the bible
says? study to show Yourself look at somebody
and say don't show me show yourself The bible
says study Pardon me to show yourself approved
a workmen Shouldn't be ashamed who knows how
to rightly divide the Word of God If you don't
study there was an there's a saying if you want
to hide something from a person put it in a book
How many know your kids by nature if you don't
train them to be different will automatically
be lazy. Oh, come on How many have children here?
You know what I'm talking? Your kids, I know
you want your kids to be all that, but ain't
no kid jumped out and go, oh, I want to learn,
I want to learn, I want to learn. Kids by nature,
if you allow them, they will automatically go,
can you do this for me? Can you help me out?
Now if you train them to be independent, you
know as they get older They'll always have that
spirit of independent, you know upon them But
if not by nature by nature all of us hear me
all of us are couch potatoes by nature if we
could and America proves this all the time if
we could we would all lose weight by taking a
pill I Can't hear nobody Why are y 'all acting
like y 'all? Oh, no child. I love getting up
running seven miles loose here Nobody in here
likes getting up going out in 95 degree weather
now once you get accustomed to it There is a
certain enjoyment. That's there, but if we could
have our way Let me come over here if I could
have my way every day I would eat oh I feel an
od coming on right now. I could eat chocolate
every day of my life and would be happy in Jesus
oh god I could just eat enough to just go into
a coma just if I had my way I would never eat
healthy you know why it's not in your nature
look at your neighbor say now you know you should
have been said amen because you know you got
some issues In our nature, it's not in our nature
to study and to dig. It's in our nature to go
up to the tree, watch this, to go to the tree
that we were told, don't go there. Adam, why'd
you eat from that tree? That woman? I tried to
tell, I don't even know why you gave it to me
in the first place. I was cool with those animals
and stuff. I was lonely I didn't know but you
will if then why ain't it Joe fault because if
you wouldn't gave it to me there I mean you see
how the mind work that the mind the mind Automatically
watch this the mind automatically blame somebody
else for our own issue Wait until we get into
politics Wow, I'm gonna use that one. That's
gonna be hot The fact of the matter is none of
us by nature want to get up and study diligently
How many know that if you had your chance you
would eat whatever you want? How many I just
wish I had ten honest folk with pastor how many
know not only what you eat what you want you
do what you want when you want and when tell
nobody what you're doing and if they do you slap
them out of them amen Look at your neighbor if
they didn't raise your hand say, oh, you know
you lie you lie you lie you lie All of us in
here wants to do it our way When you don't be
please hear me when you don't become a student
When you don't see oh god, this is gonna mess
some up some of you insecure folk up in here
When you don't see yourself as a learning and
as a budding scholar You deprive yourself from
becoming what god wants you to become You know
what you do you look at others that are trying
to do it and instead of you getting on the bandwagon
with them You come against them. You know why
because you always hate what you're not I heard
somebody saying mmm. Yeah, it's true. You hate
what you're not You know why people let this
is a little sidebar, but this will bless you
Do you know why people talk really about other
people? It's simple They're not what they, you
know, they see something that they're not, and
because they're not, it's easy to become critical.
So you look and you dog somebody else out. Hear
me? All you want to be Pharisees is so easy to
dog folk out when you ain't in control. It's
so easy to sit back on that bench and look at
what's going on from this pulpit But I love it
when prophets here, but and I'm getting used
to brother building sister Gary in the red But
oh, let me tell you something you're making this
a personal issue God is never going to allow
this ministry to ever be personal Some of you
have ministry in you and I cannot as a pastor
Sit here and know you got ministry in you and
never give you an opportunity to sharpen your
skill Oh God, I got an answer to God for that.
You ain't getting me in trouble with God. No,
I want to live a long time as long as he's going
to let me live my job is to make sure you built
up now you may not like the way that I do it
but as long as I'm in charge under him you don't
have a choice in the matter so when you get an
attitude it's not with the person you're looking
at your attitude is with yourself touch yourself
and say I got to get over you oh touch yourself
again say I got to get over myself When you don't
like what's going on, you know what you need
to do check yourself That was for two y 'all.
All right, come on Hear the word. Let's go into
it here. Now the term equal here is another form
of Isen which again denotes and please underscore
this Absolute sameness of nature now, why are
we getting into this now? Let me just try to
teach you something here. Okay, just in the adventure
not catching up if you go back to your handout
on the trinity now now put a finger on the term
equal here's another form keep keep your finger
there if you go back to what I quoted I quoted
from the Jehovah's Witness when I quoted from
them note what happened here they're the one
that says let alone that equal is with Jehovah
in other words it's not however the original
language says something different let me teach
you something to do here take a pen or pencil,
whatever you're writing with, begin to make footnotes.
Right here on the Bible's argument, pardon me,
which says the term equal here is another form
of ison, which again denotes absolute sameness
of nature, write some sort of, develop some sort
of number system. For instance, put the number
1A there. Once you do that, you can put like
1A dot R, which would mean 1A reference. Anytime
you see an R or whatever, whatever method you
develop for yourself, I'm just giving you an
example. Whatever method you see, if you put
1AR, that means that you have another footnote
that you need to review, R for review. You can
then go back and look at what else did you do
a 1AR with. And if you go back to your Jehovah's
Witness sheet, you can put then where their argument
is, and then you can put... You can put then
where the Bible's argument gives you the answer
and that way Oh God, you talk about having your
own footnote You develop your own book before
you even know it and you'll know exactly what
you're thinking when you're thinking and anytime
you reach your own notes You can go back and
go there's something else to this note in another
place, and you can reference it. So develop for
yourself some sort of way that you will have
some notes here. Let's go a little further, a
little quicker here. It says the term equal here
is another form of isin, which again denotes
absolute sameness of nature, that the reference,
John 5 .26 and 6 .57, pertain to his earthly
existence. Please underline that. During which
he emptied himself to become as one of us after
all Jesus claimed his Jehovahistic identity John
8 58 when he claimed to be God according to Exodus
3 and 14 and let me just prove that to you real
quick Shannon get for me John 8 and 58 John 8
and 58 also Scott get for me Exodus 3 and 14
John 8 and 58 and then Exodus 3 14 now remember
before I have them to read this the reason that
we're taking this position is Because this is
the position that the Jehovah's Witness argued
from they say this is not the case How then will
we know it's the case? Because we have the Bible
making its own case Their case is predicated
upon their ideas. Our case is predicated upon
what the book already said. Their case has to
then come and counter the case that's already
been stated. Now, isn't that strange? That's
like someone coming to your house telling you,
because I don't like your house, I'm gonna change
your house for you. I don't like your apartment,
I'm changing your apartment. When I ride in your
car and you pick me up, I don't like your car,
I'm changing your car. Don't like your clothes
that you buy I'm changing your clothes for you.
How many know you wouldn't tolerate that real
fast. Amen Well, this is what they've done. So
now watch this read for me read for me Shannon
John 8 and 58 Oh God what a killer do you see
in your scripture where Jesus says And he said
unto them now remember who he's talking to he's
talking to the pharisees of the day He had just
called him if you want to get a good laugh read
that whole chapter I used to read this thing
and just fall out laughing all the time He walked
around jesus began to heal some folk and they
said oh you do this stuff by the devil He said
no, I don't do it by the devil How can a kingdom
be divided if it do something like that? It's
actually another another version and then he
comes over He says I do these things by god and
they were saying oh you can be of god and then
And they says, well, how dare you call us the
devil? We're the children of Abraham. And he
says, no, if you were children of Abraham, you
would know the things that I was already doing.
He said, you're the children of your father,
the devil. And then he goes on to say, here in
John 8 58, they say, how can you say that? Because
Jesus then announced that, you know, before Abraham
was, what does he say? He says, before Abraham
was, look at your word. Is that capital I? That
is what is attributed to Abraham. God, how do
we know it read exodus for me scott? And god
said unto moses I know hold it stop is that I
am capital I am Here is the same language again
and god said unto moses. What I am that I am
Note what he's saying in exodus when he was telling
mo Hey mo go up and shake up the kingdom over
there in pharaoh's house. Well, you know, that's
a Detroit's contemporary version 102 I want you
to go and I want you to shake it up Moses asked
a question Now if you understand Hebrew you understand
this real well The reason that Moses asked that
real question was because there were a whole
lot of gods So Moses didn't know who he was talking
to so when God said to him Jehovah God said to
him Go now just go tell him I am that I am now
There are some scholars that would teach and
I'm not necessarily opposed to it There are some
scholars that teach the reason that he says I
am was because the Hebrew tongue They would not
allow themselves to ever use the word God So
they would just give it like a generic thing.
They knew that God was so holy They wouldn't
even touch it like no just just tell him I am
but the literal translation is very very clear
God says to Moses if they ask you who sent you
Tell him I am what he was really saying is I'll
be Whatever you need me to be. I got the whole
thing covered. So if you need resource, I'm out
shadow If you need a banner to go before you
and defeat your enemies, I'm Jehovah. I'm I am
me see Whatever more you need. I'm going to be
it just tell them I am In other words, there's
no God above me and there's no God, and this
is important to note, and there's no God beneath
me. There are no other gods except for me. God
says every other God you must carry about on
your shoulders or on some sort of plaque. And
you gotta, he says, matter of fact, you gotta
go to the tree and you gotta carve your God out
of the tree. But remember, I'm the God that made
the tree. Now why is this important because the
Jehovah's Witness now going back to the argument
the Jehovah's Witness says in John 1 and 1 that
God Small G was made by the Big G Here's here's
another way to argue them if if if in their New
World Translation They use the word God with
a small G. Does that not denote there's another
God Are you following me? How about in the Ten
Commandments, one of the commandments, thou shalt
have no other God beside me. Don't make any.
I'm it. If their argument is correct, we now
have a second God made by the same God that said
he would have no other gods before him. I hope
y 'all caught that. How many of y 'all really
caught that? Did you catch the argument? How
can you have two gods? Hope y 'all are remembering
the other lesson. I taught y 'all in apostolic
or oneness Pentecostal How many remember when
I dealt with you about the water baptism issue
and how they themselves hold on to the fact that
there's only one God And that's why you got to
baptize. I heard this Oh God, forgive me almost
said her name this time. I learned her name I
watched on TV for a few minutes. God forgive
me. She's my comic view. She's my BET I turn
her on and this light she just tickles me to
death. That's your auntie, right Shanae? No,
it's not. I'm sorry this I mean There is this
lady that comes on and I get the biggest kick
I mean, she's sitting up there and she's talking
to herself She'll be talking and uh, and I feel
such and said go ahead and preach. You know,
you preaching at work I'm looking like who's
she talking to? Wow and I heard her today she
was trying to make a point even about being baptized
in Jesus name only and then she said I was part
of a Baptist church and I I know which Baptist
church she was part of brother Eric and she said
that she was part of this Baptist church and
she said she got nothing and I thought you crazy
you had to get something she said well, I wouldn't
even say there because when I was baptized they
baptized me in the name of the Father Son of
the Holy Ghost and then she went on to say this
she said but if you got her if you understood
you would look at what Jesus said in Matthew
28 where he says baptizing them in the name so
now she wants to say she wants to teach That
that Jehovah's God Neeson That his name is Jesus
That ain't all of his name. He has a lot of personalities
that he manifest himself in So it's the same
argument that the Jehovah's Witness used now.
Let me tell you why You know why the oneness
Pentecostals and JWs argue the same thing? Go
back to the front of your paper. They all learn,
remember what I taught you about the head? They
all learn from the same head, Arius. When they
learn from Arius, here is the reality. Arius
was kicked out of the church. Isn't it ironic
that when you find the head, you find the answer?
Find out what a person believes from their foundation
and you will find out how to defeat them every
time Just stay with the head when they try to
get away go back to the head. They try to well
We don't believe that anymore. Yeah, but your
head your head made this now Yeah, but we don't
preach that anymore. Well, oh then are you denouncing
your head? Because if you're denouncing your
top that simply means that that you got to get
rid of everything you believe and Develop something
new because your foundation is always on the
top. I Hope y 'all caught that All right So Jesus
said That before Abraham was he repeated Exodus.
I am Wow Jehovah's Witness say something totally
different. All right Let's go to the next one.
Let me hurry up here May be able to finish all
of this part on this evening part of the watchtowers
lies are found on page 22 of their own Oracle,
this is notice. I put the word Russell I think
I couldn't help myself the Russellite Oracle
Declares Paul makes clear now. This is important.
Please look at me one more time Note what they
do. They read you a scripture and they interpret
it for you assuming you ain't gonna look at it
i told you before the statistic jehovah's witnesses
are made up of ex christians i'm sad to report
this i'm not picking on any reformation but they
are made up primarily of ex baptist folk okay
i'll back why are you always picking on the baptist
i'm not i'm just giving you the facts Part of
the watchtower lies are found on page 22 the
Russellite Oracle declares Paul makes clear that
Christ Jesus in his pre -human form was not equal
to his father Philippians 2 1 through 11 in the
New World's translation however the biblical
argument makes that statement absolutely ridiculous
Paul never mentions Christ being ambitious to
attain anything at all or his lack of ambition
since there is no Greek term that can be translated
ambition by the way the JW themselves do not
use the word ambition in their own translations
even though they introduce it in all of their
articles did you catch that all of their articles
that they put out They introduced the word ambition.
You go and study the New World Translation. They
never mentioned the word ambition. Can you figure
out why? That means that they would have a source
that you could go on. There is no Greek here.
But you know what they do when they come up with
those papers on your doors? Half of the folks
say, yeah, that's in the Bible. And you think
it's something in the scripture until you read
your own Bible. And you realize that ain't in
the Bible. They are counting on you not to know
your word Sound familiar how many remember when
Jesus was tempted in the wilderness? How did
he defeat Satan? the word every time Satan came
he said wait it is Written Satan came another
way. What did he say? He didn't stop and say
let me go on another fast and I'll figure out
what it is Let me go and ask my pastor. Let me
go ask the prophet. He said no, no, no, no, it's
written This is how we're going to defeat them
now the new world's translation says it one way
let me have Philippians 2 1 through 11 brother
bill get that for me Philippians 2 very important
scripture Philippians 2 1 through 11 how many
have it I want y 'all to read this together because
you need to hear yourself saying this and let
me teach you something just something I learned
through the years it may be work for you may
not but it'll bless you if perhaps if you apply
it the Bible says that faith comes by hearing
and hearing pardon me the word of God let me
say it again faith come by hearing and hearing
the word of God let me teach you a little way
to hear the word of God read it aloud it will
be totally different than you reading silent
a little something I learned by the spirit years
ago Read the word aloud, even if it's under your
breath, read it aloud. And when you hear your
audit, when it comes out, goes through your audit
ear, inward, you will hear something you never
heard before. You go, wait, what am I saying?
You ever argue with someone until you hurt yourself?
And you look at yourself. Anybody ever hear themselves
on cassette tape? No, I just heard someone say,
yeah. You know why? You didn't realize you sound
like that. and when you hear yourself you go
oh no the blood the blood the blood of Jesus
Christ Satan the Lord rebuke you when I first
heard myself preach on tape I didn't even know
it was me I heard I went who is that and I wasn't
very fond of the voice it's just true and I thought
I don't like me I had issues. I laid myself on
my own couch and begin to analyze myself. Anyway,
yeah, that's another issue here. All right Philippians
2 Y 'all a little slow this thing. Are y 'all
okay? I need y 'all need to go on a fast. Oh
No, don't get caught up now Come on Philippians
2 1 through 11. I want I hope you all can read
in concert. Let's all read that together read
Y 'all talking in tongues stop Philippians 2
beginning at verse number one read Good Being
what? Say it again in the what? Read He was what
it did your Bible have equal? That's not what
the Jehovah's Witness says read that from again
from the top on that one portion though being
in the form Stop he took upon upon himself the
form if you take upon yourself the form of something,
it means you must condescend from where you are
to get to what you're trying to get to. Does
that make sense to you? If you're trying to get
from one place to another and you have to take
on the form of something, that means, hear me,
this is clear, you got to catch this, that means
that if you must take on the form, you are not
what you're taking the form of. If I take the
form of a Shaquille O 'Neal, guess what? I'm
not Shaquille O 'Neal. Now I play like him. Don't
make me get out here and get a ball and slam
in your face. Bring it on! The fact of the matter
is, taking the form of something means that you
are not what you're taking the form of. You don't
need to take the form of something if you already
that. How many of you know you know your name?
How many know you ain't got to take the form
of your name, you are who you are? Amen look
at go back to verse number 11 read it from the
top one more time read 11 read I'm sorry go to
go to 9 go back to all the way to 9 and then
read 8 I said 8 I said 7 Shanae you need to wake
up honey. I said 7 Come on Alfred let's begin
to read man all of us together read from 7 read
Stop who did he give a name to? He gave it to
Jesus why? Because he had taken on himself the
form of a servant Are you catching we'll get
back to the co -eternal here in just a moment
read from the top of that verse one more time
that clear how can the Jehovah's Witness speak
of what they say and the scripture never said
what they are implying look at this part of that
let me read this again part of the watchtowers
lies are found on page 22 the Russellite Oracle
declares Paul makes clear that Jesus Christ in
his pre -human form was not equal to his father
Does not your Bible say, though he was what?
How many know what that is? You just read that.
Underline that verse in your Bible. Now, let
me show you something else that you may want
to consider to do. When you're doing a study
like this in comparative religion, in the very
beginning of your Bible, you may want to put,
I don't know, JWs in the color of red. If you
do that, one thing, and this is just something
I've learned that helps through the years, you
can put JWs in red, Therefore every time you
see something red in your scripture, you know
that it pertains to the Jehovah's Witness So
even in a case like this When they say that they
you know that God never became equal or he wasn't
equal to God Your scripture here right here in
Philippians tells you black and white I mean
you don't even need the Hebrew for this really
you don't you don't need the Greek for this one
Dear hearts, this is clear in the English. He
was equal Write down you can write down JW in
those places and again every time you see it
You can reference now if you really want to get
into what's called an exhaustive study Every
time you do something first take maybe a sheet
of paper on that paper and this is you know It
depends on how deep you want to get if if you
if we're doing this study on Jehovah's Witness
You can go back to all your notes you can write
down every Bible verse that they argue that you
have an argument for on that Bible verse if you
were to put for instance if on Philippians 2
you know that there are 10 other passages of
scripture that relate to Jehovah's Witness on
the side of your Bible where Philippians 2 is
Put down other by or other pages that's in your
Bible where you can also find issues concerning
JW that way if they take you to one you already
know that all of on page 244 There's another
reference point. Are you fine? Am I clear with
that? It'll just be a blessing to you something
that I've used for years Alright, let me go further
and quicker here as quick as I can. Alright the
biblical argument makes that statement absolutely
ridiculous. Paul never even mentions Christ being
ambition to attain anything at all or his lack
of ambition. Since there is no Greek term that
cannot be translated ambition, by the way, the
JWs themselves do not use the word ambition in
their own translations, even though they introduce
it in their articles. Paul's entire theology
states the opposite. Paul declares that Jesus
did not consider equality with God, something
to be grasped after or robbed. That's what Paul's
doctrine taught us. It didn't say that in crisis,
that Christ did not consider equality with God,
something to be sought after or robbed. It's
the Greek word. I gave you the Greek word there.
Since he previously existed, as the eternal Word
of God, John 1 and 1. Now note why I'm stating
this, because you don't have to try to become
something that you already are. Why would you
have to have ambition, according to Jehovah's
Witness, to become what you already say you are?
Make any sense? You don't need to be, you know,
come whoever you are. And be angry and trying
to strive and be I'm just trying to be uh, you
know Aubrey Shives I'm already Aubrey if I start
trying to strive to be Aubrey Shives y 'all,
please call the cookie truck I got some issues
deep issues y 'all see me up here. I know who
I am. I'm Aubrey Shives That's why when men Oh
God here I go. I didn't got off on a test when
men have to raise their voice I'm the man of
this house. You got an issue You didn't know
that You raising your voice don't make you become
any more than what you already are I'm not gonna
tolerate it. I'm the man When you demand it goes
without saying you ain't gonna tolerate it. Oh
all the women said oh, oh It's a true saying
All right, come on prior to last sheet prior
to his incarnation John 1 and 14 He had no desire
to strive for what was his by nature and inherited
stop Where do we get it from the original word
equal? Remember your definition how many took
your definition last week the word well You can
even go back to the second sheet here again the
word definition or for equal is the Greek word.
I said which again denotes absolute Sameness
now let me tell you why that word absolute is
there thank God for it that means that it's not
relative Now, I better, I better deal with this.
I better unfold this here, because I'm gonna,
you gotta make sure you... If it means absolute
sameness, that means that it can never be a question
whether or not it's the same. See, when something
is relative, you can go, well, maybe it is, maybe
it ain't. Que sera sera. Whatever would be, would
be. Not in this here. In the Word of God, the
Greek word for equal means to be absolutely the
same. I hope some of you married folk just caught
that. If you are the same Oh God, I don't see
that for me. All right, come on. Let's let's
go here his incarnation John 1 and 14 He had
no. Well, let me let me let me get that Luanda
get that for me, honey John st. John 1 and 14
st. John 1 and 14 Hold it and though is that
the capital word word keep right there. How many
have John 1 and 14? Go back up to John 1 in 1.
What does it say? In the beginning was the what
is it capitalized go down to 14. What does it
say? Hold it the word was made flesh read Stop
go to first Timothy 3 and 16 Is that it that's
it this is where you just die and go be with
Jesus on this one Trust me now if y 'all can't
get excited on the word we gotta get y 'all saved
Because when the word is really in you and you
see this you go. Oh Jesus hallelujah This used
to be my this is a passage. I used to wear them
out with right here I would always set them up
three questions ahead and when I would when I
would get them to confess certain things Then
I would go well, then I get it. I need to ask
one more question. What does first Timothy 3
16 read that for me, please and without controversy
Great is the mystery of godliness for God was
what? Manifest in the flesh and he did what else
and what and He preached a God was manifested
in the flesh and preached among the Gentiles
go back to John 1 and 14 and the word was It
was made what? 1st Timothy 3 16 Great is the
mystery of godliness for God was manifested in
the flesh John 1 and 14 and the word was made
As old folks say flush child you just in your
flush sit down His incarnation John 1 and 14
he had no desire to strive for what was his by
nature and inheritance Paul elsewhere calls Christ
all The fullness of the deity in the flesh as
a matter of fact Charlotte get for me Colossians
Okay, so spell check Colossians 2 and 9 Colossians
2 and 9 read out loud for in who for in Christ
Oh boy, this is the big one Ethel. I'm coming
on in Are you all reading what I'm reading? Look
at Colossians one more time. Come on Colossians
as a matter of fact everybody read this with
Charlotte read from the top read and who Okay,
read again for in him How much of the fullness
Some of it one portion of it only the second
portion of the deity. Okay read from the top
again bodily is the word bodily in yours read
oh my there's that which is the head I don't
know how else you can argue this this kills this
kills anything that ain't dead already he had
no desire to strive for what was his by nature
and inheritance Paul elsewhere calls Christ all
the fullness of the deity in the flesh The great
god and savior go to Titus 2 13 Since y 'all
want to play hardball, let's play hardball and
it won't be with chris matthew either. All right
Titus 2 13 read it all together read Stop the
great god in who is the word savior capitalized
that just made him god Can't be one without the
other can't be a second God or God's contradicting
himself read it again one more time from the
top Go to Hebrews 1 Hebrews 1 Hebrews 1 and this
is where they top over and They give it all up.
I would say give up the ghost, but they don't
believe in the ghost So they can't give up what
they don't believe in But this is where you destroy
this is where you break their neck right here.
Here's the neck breaker Hebrews one Past you
play hard. No, I play to win. I don't want to
be on any team. That's not going to win Never
participate with people on your team that ain't
gonna win as we begin to appoint people in position
I will only have winners around me. That means
you have to be able to take the pressure That
means that when folk don't speak to you speak
to them anyway, because you understand you above
and they're beneath That's condescending. No,
it's not it's understanding that you sit in heavenly
places in Christ Jesus It's that simple. It means
that you don't have a low self -esteem about
yourself I don't care if your dog your mother
your father your sister your brother your husband
your wife I'll tell you you ain't got nothing
going you got to know who you are in Christ and
according to the word You are complete in him
period Hebrews 1 verse number 3 read Oh boy Threw
y 'all off read from the top again. I got excited
and said ooh boy and some of y 'all wanted to
speak in tongues I can hear who he caught a Honda
Honda. Oh Toyota Toyota. Come on. Let's read
Hebrews one one more time verse number three
read Eight verse number eight Can't take this
if you are really caught this boy You'd have
either tears in your eyes or something's got
to be happening on the inside of you right now
Let me tell you something when you know who your
God is There ain't a devil in hell will ever
make you believe anything different now all of
us go through things that will begin to say God
Where are you what's taking so long? Why why
why why why that has nothing to do with who God
is that has everything to do everything to do
with your? Inability to be able to trust that
who he is he said that he is When you understand
who God is come in the words of the Apostle Paul
come come tribulation or trial Come persecution
come either lack He said one thing I've learned
I've learned that whatever state I'm in I've
learned that he is who he said that he is see
When you begin to mature you'll begin to understand
it may not happen like I want it to happen But
as long as I'm in Christ Jesus It's a done deal.
See when you understand that in your heart that
means that while you're praying for those crazy
sons, daughters, mamas, whoever you're praying
for, you know what you can rest on? The promise
is he said who he is, he is. That means that
no matter what you're looking at, they can be
acting like they're losing their minds. If you're
standing on what God said, you'll be able to
look at that situation and say even though you
are losing your mind, I have my mind. It is saying
I am fixed on the things of God and I will get
what I'm looking for in Christ Jesus. But I'm
broke. I don't care if you are broke the Bible
declares that his word in you will supply all
the need that you have need of According to his
riches and glory that which is it by Christ Jesus
Lord and even if you don't have and don't even
have the faith to give then you can claim Philippians
2 when Paul said I was we had a need and effort
and even though nobody met us concerning our
need I ever would I just brought us all things
that were necessary for us to have and therefore
we become sufficient in all things That means
that when you can't get through as long as you
are connected God will connect you to another
believer that can get through for you And when
your faith is weak stop sweating it God's got
a partner and you know where your partner is
sitting right in church somewhere It can be male
female don't matter to God. God has no respect
to persons He will use whoever he wants to use
and once you understand that you will never walk
around Assuming you can't get your job done You
will know for sure if I can't pray through he
can pray through for me and he can help me pray
through until I get through when I get through
I help him pray through to the next place see
in Christ we have all things and when you get
that you'll defeat them I'm gonna close out tonight
this is not all for the Jehovah's Witness but
I think I've settled the argument over this whole
Trinity piece amen are there any questions at
all play music for me Danielle are there any
questions at all regarding this topic don't ask
me about when Jesus is coming back I don't know
Any questions? No. Was I that thorough? In their
minds and in their will give them the heart to
understand perceive acknowledge who you are in
the person of Jesus Christ God help us become
bold as lions help us become wise even as a serpent
God give us wisdom and at the same time in the
spirit of humility Help us be humble even as
lambs that we may win those that are lost and
without you to the bleeding side of Calvary's
cross in Jesus' matchless name. Amen. Would you
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