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So, welcome to the Improving Development Evaluation

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Podcast. I'm your host, David Wand, and in this

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episode, we're going to feature Humber Polytechnic

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International Development Institute. You can

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learn more about the Humber Polytechnic International

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Development Institute if you go to their website,

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which will be in the episode notes. It's humber

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.ca forward slash global forward slash international

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hyphen development hyphen institute hyphen IDI.

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And we're going to look at a project that they

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received $4 ,950 ,000 from the government of

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Canada. That's you guys, some of you listening,

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the Canadian taxpayers. And it's for a project

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that they delivered in Bhutan. called Education

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and Skills Training. And I'll also put in the

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episode notes, the link to the project description.

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Of course, I'm going to give you a bit of background

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on what this project and the $4 ,950 ,000 services

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it actually delivered. And as usual, when it's

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done, I'll be sending my critique, this link

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to the episode, along with the performance measurement

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framework. to the Humber Polytechnic to invite

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them to respond to my critique if they wish.

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And of course, I will always send it to the minister

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responsible for international development, which

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is I think called the Secretary of State for

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International Development. I'll also send it

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to, of course, all the other political party

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shadow critics responsible for international

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development. And I'm always recommending... that

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instead of us trying to chase the performance

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measurement framework, that all of these agencies,

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including Humber, Polytechnic, put on their website

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their performance measurement framework, as well

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as the data, which we aren't getting right now.

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But I do have some good news. There is an international

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organization that actually is starting to do

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it. So in future episodes, I will be critiquing

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their performance measurement framework that

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is on their website. So without further delay,

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let's get into this project in Bhutan. And one

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last point. If you're listening to this podcast

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on Spotify, Spotify has now added a comment section.

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So feel free to leave your comments in response

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to any of my episodes that are up there. I look

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forward to reading your comments. And if you

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ever want any of my performance measurement frameworks

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along with my critiques, that are produced in

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writing. You can send me an email at evaluatecanadaaid

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at gmail .com. That'll be in the episode notes.

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And feel free to request, and I'm happy to send

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them to you. So this project in Bhutan, delivered

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by Humber Polytechnic International Development

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Institute. They basically have six target groups

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that they deliver services to with this $4 ,950

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,000. Target group number one are technical vocation

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institution teachers. Target group number two,

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technical vocation institute curriculum developers.

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Number three, technical vocation industry representatives.

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Number four, technical vocation institutes. Number

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five, all the staff in the technical vocation

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institution. And number six, parents and community

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leaders at large. So you might be wondering,

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what services do these target groups get? Well,

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the technical vocation teachers, they're receiving

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training on gender equality to incorporate within

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industry. They're also receiving training on

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career counseling for students, and in particular

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women students and students who have disabilities.

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They're also being trained on ability to coach

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students in self -employment to be gender sensitive

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and environmentally responsible. The industry

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staff target group. Industry representatives,

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they're being trained on how to best accommodate

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women and people with disability students when

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they graduate from these technical vocation institutes.

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A third target group, technical vocation institute

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curriculum developers, they're being trained

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by Humber Polytechnic to be able to incorporate

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gender equality into the student curriculum.

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And the technical vocation institutions by themselves

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as another target group, they are, it's not really

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training, but it just says in the performance

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measurement framework that their job is to set

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up incubation centers to enable students to pilot

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business ideas. They're also responsible for,

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with this funding, to set up resource centers.

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to deliver knowledge to students. Another target

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group are all of the staff at the Technical Vocation

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Institutes where they do this training in technical

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vocations. That training is on gender equality,

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also on gender sensitive, disability inclusive

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admissions, advising and counseling, and also

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gender inclusive recruitment. And finally, the

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last target group which are parents and community

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leaders in the public at large, is promoting

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technical vocation to them for people with disabilities

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through events. And also for women, promoting

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technical vocation to women through education

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fairs and education forums. So that gives you

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an idea of who is getting these various services

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and these various target groups. So before we

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get into... the outcomes and the outcome indicators

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to see if all these wonderful services were achieving

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the outcomes, we need to digress a bit and say

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to maybe the staff, although Bhutan is not really

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that hot and humid in the global south, perhaps.

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I've been to Nepal, but I haven't been to Bhutan.

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There may be times. where it is hot and humid.

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have to go to the Global South to, believe it

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going to get into the Performance Measurement

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Framework, PMF. And we'll say, let's start off

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with, you have an idea of the target groups,

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the services they receive. So let's go through

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the various outcomes. So what you're going to

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discover first to begin with is there are 29

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outcome indicators. determining whether or not

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11 expected outcomes in this $4 ,950 ,000 project

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were actually achieved. So we're going to go

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through those 29 outcome indicators for those

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11 expected outcomes, and then we'll have a conclusion

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as to how many of those were achieved. I should

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also point out to you that Humber Polytechnic

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offers a postgraduate diploma program in public

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administration, which I had the opportunity about,

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what is it, 2008. I taught two courses there,

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and one of them was supposed service quality.

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But now they finally have realized how bad that

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was. That's what you get when an MBA is running

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the school of business and doesn't understand

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that when you're evaluating human services, it's

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more than just asking the human being after they

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got the service, whether they have been customer

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satisfied with the service they received. There's

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a whole field of evaluation and psychometrics

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that you have to be involved with, as you've

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noticed from my podcast. But now they have improved.

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the postgraduate Humber Polytechnic program,

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diploma program in public administration. They

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have two new courses instead, which get it right.

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They have one in project design and one in project

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evaluation. And the first one, project design,

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guess what? They teach the students how to design

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a performance measurement framework, how to properly

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design an outcome indicator so it reliably...

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and validly measures the outcome that the project

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is trying to achieve. Why do I bring it up here?

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Well, when I finish my critique, I'm going to

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send it to them and suggest that they share it

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with the instructor for that course. It's BUS5014,

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Project Design and Planning, so that maybe their

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instructor will incorporate it into the curriculum

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as an example. A real case study of not any project,

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but actually a project that the Humber Polytechnic

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is doing itself. So it's relevant because they're

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going to Humber Polytechnic to study this. So

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you would think it would be logical and helpful

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for them to incorporate this performance measurement

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framework as well as my critique. But of course,

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they're free to disagree with my critique. And

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hopefully we'll come on the podcast and respond

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to what I'm going to tell you right now as I

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go through the 29 outcome indicators. So let's

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start with the first outcome. And this is the

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Bhutan Education and Skills Training Project

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delivered by Humber Polytechnic. So increased

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opportunities for paid employment for technical

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vocation. Graduates, especially women and people

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with disabilities, that's the expected outcome.

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They have three indicators to see if they've

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actually achieved that increased opportunity

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for paid employment. The first one is the percent

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of targeted students who access a career service

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and by field of study. Yes, they can record the

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percent of students who actually accessed a service

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who were women and or had a disability. If you

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look at their PMF, their quote analysis of records

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at the TVEN Institute needs to add analysis of

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records using standardized criteria of what is

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needed to get a yes, this student did access

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a career service. Right now, we do not know if

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the field officer responsible for this analysis

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is in a conflict of interest employed by the

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project. So that's a problem right now. If you

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look at the PMF, there's somebody inside the

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project being paid to tick off the box that says,

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yep, you've got access to a career service. Ideally,

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what they should be doing instead is bringing

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in an external evaluator who by themselves independently

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figures out, if I go into that institute, vocational

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institute, training institute, what checklist

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do they have to meet for me to say yeah they've

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got a career service going and yes the students

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actually accessed it so that would be better

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so I don't give that one a plus for the indicator

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I just think it's got a conflict of interest

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and we don't know that it's quite simply that

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the other thing I pointed out is instead of looking

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at the records of the institute why not ask the

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students directly did you get access To a career

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service, yes or no? I think that would be a better

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data source than the records of the institute,

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which they currently have in the PMF. So that's

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a no -no. The second indicator was percent of

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industry TVET partnerships that are active. But

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remember, the outcome is increased opportunities

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for paid employment for TVET graduates. Paid

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employment, not just activity, right? So here

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I had a beef with that. What about the percent

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of total partnerships that actually have paid

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apprenticeships? What do they mean by active?

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Remember, the outcome statement is increased

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opportunities for paid employment. Current data

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source is just reviewing the meeting minutes,

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if you go to the PMF, between the TVET institution

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and the company. That's not good enough, since

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the expected outcome is paid employment for the

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TVET graduate. So that's not very good. You don't

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want to just look at the minutes. You want to

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ask even the students directly, are you getting

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a paid apprenticeship? That would be a better

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measure, a better indicator for whether or not

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they've actually increased opportunities for

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paid employment for TVET graduates, right? So

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that's a no -no. The third indicator is percent

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of TVET institutions that have a career service

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specific to women and people with disabilities.

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So it's very similar to the first indicator,

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but they're now being more precise with it's

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to women and people with disabilities. Same problem

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that I mentioned previously, right? They've got

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to ask the women and the people with disabilities

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directly. That would be better. So that's not

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very good. So the next outcome is increased.

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Whoops, excuse me. Yes. They have a career service

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specific to women and people with disabilities

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or they do not. So again, the same problem. There's

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a bias. They got the field officer doing it instead

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of an independent external evaluator. So what

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I've already repeating myself here, paid employment

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for graduates suggests a better indicator would

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be the percent of graduates who got paid employment,

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not the percent of TVN institutions that have

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a career service for the target groups. Now,

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you could argue they need to have the career

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service first before they get the paid apprenticeship.

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Yes, maybe, possibly. But that's not what the

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outcome is saying. The outcome is clear. Increased

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opportunities for paid employment. So cut to

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the chase. Go straight to that. Find out how

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many of the graduates, percent, actually got

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paid employment or paid apprenticeships. That

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would be more valid measure of the outcome. The

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next outcome is improved capacity of TVET students,

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especially women and people with disabilities,

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to engage in entrepreneurial activities, including

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in green business. And they have, let me see,

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three indicators for that outcome. Let's look

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at the first one. Percent of targeted students

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who have developed a business plan. And I've

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mentioned this in previous episodes with other

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organizations. Same problem. Even if the percent

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increases, the quality of the business plan could

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be poor. Remember, the outcome is improved capacity

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of students to engage. Well, okay, they develop

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a business plan. You could argue that's sufficient

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engagement, but really, no. They need to produce

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a good one. That's why... They have this technical

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vocational institute to train them on that, right?

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So the PMF indicates no criteria on what is considered

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a good business plan. Remember, the outcome is

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improved capacity of these students to engage

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in entrepreneurial activity. So they produce

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a business plan. which is improved capacity compared

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to no business plan at all. But those business

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plans should be checked on meeting a minimum

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level of quality. Second, there is again a conflict

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of interest. As the M &amp;E officer paid by the

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project, not an external evaluator, is responsible

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for getting this percent. Third, this percent

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is only measured once per year and not until

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year two, and not until year three. Too little.

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too late if they want to show improved capacity

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due to the project training rather than other

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factors. The second indicator for improved capacity

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of TVET students to engage is percent of graduates

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who identify a high level of satisfaction with

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the quality of entrepreneurship support programs

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provided by TVET institutions. Again, if you're

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asking the graduates, So satisfaction has got

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nothing to do with improved capacity. Sure, they

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might be satisfied, but we're not measuring that

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in the outcome, right? We want to know if they

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technically are able to produce, among other

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things, a good business plan, right? So I would

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take this out. Or improved capacity to engage.

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When they say capacity, I see that as technical

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capacity to produce a business plan. or whatever,

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right? So I would take satisfaction out. Of course,

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it's a good indicator telling people maybe there's

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something wrong with the program, but it's not

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related to the outcome. Third indicator is percent

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of student business plans that focus on green

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business. Okay, again, same problem as above.

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PMF does not mention any criteria as to what

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constitutes, quote, a good green business plan

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of high quality. Now, perhaps this is assumed,

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but we do not know. If it does exist, that should

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be mentioned in the PMF. Again, not a valid indicator

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due to conflict of interest being measured by

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someone within the project. It should be an external

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evaluator instead. And again, too little, too

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late, and only measure it once per year and only

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starting in year three of the project. Now, they

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could argue they're not doing business plans

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until year three of the project. Good. Fair enough.

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One could argue that even an increase in the

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percent of students producing low -quality green

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business plans is better than no business plans

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at all. I suggest for $4 .9 million in training,

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these students on business plans, we should at

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least measure and evaluate whether these green

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business plans meet minimum quality standards.

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So that's not a good indicator. You can't just

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say, Focus on green business. We've got to see

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if it's good, good quality, using some external

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criteria of what constitutes a good green business

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plan. Next outcome, increased effectiveness of

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TVET partner institutions to deliver inclusive,

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industry -relevant, environmentally responsive

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skills training programs to students. First indicator

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here for this outcome is percent of TVET instructors

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who apply at least one named teaching technique

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learned through project activities. It's a great

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indicator, but the same problem. Got the wrong

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person measuring it. The PMS shows that the project

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M &amp;E staff will be observing the TVET instructors

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to see if they are applying these teaching techniques.

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This is a conflict of interest. They mention

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a survey in the PMF, but it is not clear if the

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TVET instructors get the survey to complete themselves,

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which would be unacceptable due to bias, or if

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they actually surveyed the students to ask them

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if their instructor delivered one of these teaching

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techniques. And again, it is only done in year

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four and year five. That sounds a bit late. for

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this project. But maybe that's only those years

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that the students receive this, quote, industry

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-relevant, environmentally responsive skills

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training, the students receiving it. So either

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way, I wouldn't accept this indicator because

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the data source is wrong. An external evaluator

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should be observing these TVET instructors to

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see if they are applying these teaching techniques,

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preferably using a pre -developed checklist before

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they enter the classroom to observe the TVET

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instructor, right? Next indicator for this outcome

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is percent of TVET instructors who receive positive

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course evaluations. Now, we have to assume that

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positive evaluation is equivalent to deliver

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relevant, inclusive, environmentally responsible,

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responsive skills training. The data source is

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TVET institution records. I guess the course

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evaluations completed by the students. The design

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of these course evaluations for the students

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to complete should be completed and delivered

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to the students by an external evaluator, not

00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.079
the Project M &amp;E staff, which again is a conflict

00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.859
of interest. So you'll want to make sure the

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course evaluation form is specific to student

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ratings of the instructor. specific to delivering,

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quote, relevant, inclusive, environmentally responsive

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skills training. So that should be put in the

00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:28.809
PMF. It's not there. We don't know. Could just

00:24:28.809 --> 00:24:31.069
be the M &amp;E officer in the project ticking off

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a box and saying, oh yeah, it's positive. We

00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:36.930
don't know. So it should be more explicit. And

00:24:36.930 --> 00:24:38.890
again, an external evaluator should be doing

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that, not the project M &amp;E officer. Because there's

00:24:42.849 --> 00:24:45.609
a potential for bias. So just eliminate it, right?

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Next outcome, strengthened capacity of targeted

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TVET partner institutions to develop gender responsive

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programs that meet economic and environmental

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needs. So here, first indicator for that outcome,

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percent of courses developed through that industry

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partners confirm as relevant to emerging economic

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sectors. From the indicator, it is clear that

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it will be up to these industry partners. to

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declare and confirm that each course indeed has

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met some sort of criteria for them to conclude,

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quote, that course is relevant to emerging economic

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sectors. The problem is that the PMF shows the

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data source as, quote, meeting records with industry

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partners and the Project M &amp;E staff, conflict

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of interest, reviewing those meeting records

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to determine if the course is indeed, quote,

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relevant. This is not acceptable, right? for

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those two reasons. So instead, an external evaluator

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should survey the industry partners to get either

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their prior approval before the course is delivered,

00:25:56.549 --> 00:25:59.410
that it is relevant, they can review the course

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syllabus. It says in the indicator, quote, developed,

00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:07.789
not yet delivered. So that would seem to be the

00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:10.269
right approach. They're developing these courses

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:14.069
to make sure they are gender responsive. Right?

00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:20.430
So they need to survey the industry people, say,

00:26:20.549 --> 00:26:24.609
is this relevant? Is it gender responsive? And

00:26:24.609 --> 00:26:27.849
the external evaluator needs to come up with

00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:31.730
a questionnaire and criteria so that they can

00:26:31.730 --> 00:26:36.789
conclude after that that the industry partners

00:26:36.789 --> 00:26:39.470
do indeed confirm that the course is relevant.

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The second... indicator is percent of courses

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developed that incorporate quote a gender -related

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concept strategy or skill so again the data source

00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:57.779
course curriculum and its review is good but

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again we've got the same problem we mentioned

00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:03.900
before conflict of interest right project M &amp;E

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staff are reviewing it which is a conflict of

00:27:06.059 --> 00:27:08.990
interest also No mention of pre -established

00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:12.190
criteria to be used when reviewing that course

00:27:12.190 --> 00:27:15.529
content to conclude whether course content, quote,

00:27:15.589 --> 00:27:20.009
incorporates that gender concept. So what would

00:27:20.009 --> 00:27:22.410
be better is getting an external evaluator to

00:27:22.410 --> 00:27:24.950
do the review as well as develop the criteria

00:27:24.950 --> 00:27:30.049
to be used for that review. And another indicator

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for this outcome, percent of courses developed

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that incorporate an environmental. sustainability

00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:40.460
concept, strategy, or skill. Same problem as

00:27:40.460 --> 00:27:43.420
before. They need to get an external evaluator

00:27:43.420 --> 00:27:46.019
in there to do the review as well as to develop

00:27:46.019 --> 00:27:49.640
the criteria to be used for that review to lead

00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.200
to the conclusion of whether course content incorporates,

00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.819
quote, environmental sustainability concept,

00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.099
right? So you can get the pattern here. There's

00:27:59.099 --> 00:28:03.000
conflicts of interest going on with some of these

00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.880
indicators, which is not acceptable. So next

00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.480
outcome, increased effectiveness of national

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.220
TVET agencies and TVET institutions to manage

00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:18.019
a reformed gender and disability inclusive and

00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:23.059
environmentally responsive TVET system. So the

00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:26.660
first indicator is level of confidence among

00:28:26.660 --> 00:28:30.539
TVET officials in their ability to manage a reformed

00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:33.579
TVET system that is gender sensitive, disability

00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:37.690
inclusive. and environmentally responsible. So,

00:28:37.769 --> 00:28:40.829
technical ability to manage an increased effectiveness

00:28:40.829 --> 00:28:44.349
of an agency or institution cannot be measured

00:28:44.349 --> 00:28:48.450
by TVET managers self -reporting their confidence

00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:52.450
in their ability to manage. This self -reporting

00:28:52.450 --> 00:28:55.349
is biased and fails to measure the technical

00:28:55.349 --> 00:28:59.490
ability to manage. In addition, they collected

00:28:59.490 --> 00:29:02.549
this self -reporting through focus groups and

00:29:02.549 --> 00:29:08.140
surveys. A waste of money, right? And what could

00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:11.119
they do instead? Well, way back before any of

00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.480
you were born, including myself, way back in

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.180
the 1950s, the Educational Testing Service developed

00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:21.720
the in -basket test. It's a test and it still

00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.160
exists today, I'm guessing. It's an example of

00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.279
where you can test the competency of managers,

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.220
where they have to prioritize tasks they're given.

00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.920
defer it to somebody else, do it right away,

00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:38.339
make somebody else do it, delegate. That's just

00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:41.480
an example. But if you're going to train people

00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.420
on how to manage, especially with this specific

00:29:44.420 --> 00:29:47.720
content, gender and disability inclusiveness,

00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.460
environmental responsibility, you need to design

00:29:51.460 --> 00:29:55.819
a test that can test these managers if they're

00:29:55.819 --> 00:29:59.220
competent to do that, rather than just asking

00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:01.619
them. their confidence level, right? So that's

00:30:01.619 --> 00:30:05.119
just an example. Now, after using that objective

00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.079
measure, you find the percent of managers isn't

00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.940
going up. Then, and only then, you could hold

00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:16.900
a focus group and ask them, you guys in this

00:30:16.900 --> 00:30:18.900
room, the percent has barely gone up. What's

00:30:18.900 --> 00:30:21.960
going on? What's the problem with your ability

00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.700
to manage? Why was there no percent increase

00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:29.200
in those who passed? on the in -basket test.

00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.039
That could be an example, right? So that indicator

00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.500
is not very good. The next indicator for this

00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:41.460
outcome was percent of revised courses that are

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:46.099
initiated within their designated timeline. So

00:30:46.099 --> 00:30:48.579
initiating a revised course, perhaps to address

00:30:48.579 --> 00:30:52.079
low confidence reported in their ability to manage,

00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.259
I don't know, is still an output rather than

00:30:56.259 --> 00:30:59.180
an expected outcome. This is not related to the

00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:02.019
expected outcome of improving technical ability

00:31:02.019 --> 00:31:06.319
to manage. Now, I suppose you could say it's

00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.079
the step before, right? They've learned their

00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.279
lesson. They know they're not managing. And so

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.140
they have to turn around and revise the course.

00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.039
So that could be argued that, you know, if the

00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.180
percent goes up and they do that, that's a measure,

00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.940
again, of technical ability. But then somebody

00:31:25.940 --> 00:31:28.799
could argue. Well, we've seen the revised course

00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.200
and it's crap. But even if it's not crap and

00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.279
it's really good, what is the outcome again in

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:40.960
this? It's to manage a system. It's a management

00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.880
skill they're looking at here. And maybe that's

00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.500
a measure of management is producing a high quality

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:51.759
revised course. So maybe again, they need an

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.569
external evaluator to come in and say. This is

00:31:55.569 --> 00:31:57.890
what these managers have to reach if they're

00:31:57.890 --> 00:32:00.650
going to revise these courses. And I haven't

00:32:00.650 --> 00:32:03.029
checked the data source on this, but I'm assuming

00:32:03.029 --> 00:32:08.130
it's not good. I think I'd have to check, but

00:32:08.130 --> 00:32:10.289
I'm going to assume same problem. They don't

00:32:10.289 --> 00:32:12.750
have an evaluator coming in to look at those

00:32:12.750 --> 00:32:16.849
courses and say, yep, these have improved with

00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:20.130
respect to the outcome. Therefore, the management

00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:22.970
skill has improved, but we don't know at this

00:32:22.970 --> 00:32:27.230
point. Another outcome, enhanced knowledge and

00:32:27.230 --> 00:32:30.069
attitudes about TVET as a viable education and

00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:32.990
employment pathway that is inclusive of women,

00:32:33.130 --> 00:32:35.950
people with disabilities, and vulnerable populations.

00:32:36.569 --> 00:32:40.109
So, first indicator for this outcome, increased

00:32:40.109 --> 00:32:43.690
level of support among community members for

00:32:43.690 --> 00:32:47.069
TVET education. If you look at the performance

00:32:47.069 --> 00:32:49.910
measurement framework, a sample is taken from

00:32:49.910 --> 00:32:52.859
the community members at large to see if the

00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:56.440
percent supporting TVET as a viable pathway has

00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:01.400
increased over time. This is great. It's a great

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.880
indicator. Problem is, there's no comparison

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.599
or control groups, so they cannot support their

00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.200
claim that their project was responsible for

00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.779
any observed increase in the percent. In addition,

00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.140
there is no mention of a one -tailed, right -tailed

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:19.900
hypothesis test using the sampling Z distribution

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:23.960
of a simple single proportion. So any observed

00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.019
increase in the percent over time could fail

00:33:26.019 --> 00:33:29.440
to be statistically significant with a p -value

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:35.799
less than 0 .05, right? So either way, they've

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.599
got a problem. At the very minimum, they should

00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.079
be doing what any second year undergraduate social

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.660
science major will tell you. They should be comparing

00:33:44.660 --> 00:33:49.339
the percent sample of the population that they've

00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.940
just done the community members sampling to see

00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:58.519
if the percent has gone up enough to reach a

00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.440
critical value where they can reject the null

00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.299
and go with the alternate and say yeah the percent

00:34:04.299 --> 00:34:06.980
has gone up and it's been statistically significant

00:34:06.980 --> 00:34:10.599
and we're at least 95 percent confident that

00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.739
there is that observed increase is statistically

00:34:13.739 --> 00:34:18.239
significant otherwise why do the project right

00:34:18.750 --> 00:34:21.010
If you don't do the project and the percent still

00:34:21.010 --> 00:34:25.050
goes up, why spend almost $5 million? You got

00:34:25.050 --> 00:34:28.250
to show it's statistically significant. It's

00:34:28.250 --> 00:34:31.030
effective. Or some people say, not only effective,

00:34:31.349 --> 00:34:37.050
it has impact, right? So that's a problem. Next

00:34:37.050 --> 00:34:40.130
indicator, percent of women and people with disabilities

00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:44.590
from sample communities who view TVET as a viable

00:34:44.590 --> 00:34:49.510
education pathway. Now, From the PMF, a sample

00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:51.329
is taken from women and people with disabilities

00:34:51.329 --> 00:34:55.030
to see if the percent supporting TVET as a viable

00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:58.110
pathway has increased over time. Again, great.

00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:01.570
But again, no comparison groups, no control groups.

00:35:01.949 --> 00:35:05.929
They still need to do a statistical test to see

00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:09.349
if that percent over time has statistically significantly

00:35:09.349 --> 00:35:12.869
increased. Otherwise, there's no point. They

00:35:12.869 --> 00:35:15.989
got to prove that the project has made a statistically

00:35:15.989 --> 00:35:20.639
significant difference. Right? And ideally, you

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.460
want to have a comparison group or a control

00:35:24.460 --> 00:35:28.500
group. Now, they could be delivering this project

00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:32.480
to every single TVAN institution in the country.

00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.139
And maybe they are. That's fine. Okay, so no

00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:39.800
point in having a control group. But they still

00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.619
have to show that the percentages they've got

00:35:41.619 --> 00:35:44.719
have statistically increased significantly. Otherwise,

00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:50.650
they should shut the program down. Another indicator

00:35:50.650 --> 00:35:55.170
is the percent of TVET institutions that implement

00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:59.269
new recruitment and counseling strategies and

00:35:59.269 --> 00:36:04.849
systems. Now, again, the outcome there is, sorry,

00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:07.429
I went to, there's a new outcome. So let me repeat

00:36:07.429 --> 00:36:10.070
that. There's a new outcome here for that indicator.

00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:13.650
It is strengthened capacity of TVET institutions

00:36:13.650 --> 00:36:17.250
to recruit and counsel students, especially youth,

00:36:17.389 --> 00:36:20.800
women, and people with disabilities. So the first

00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.039
indicator for that outcome is percent of TVET

00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.239
institutions that implement new recruitment and

00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.900
counseling strategies and systems. Again, great

00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:34.119
indicator, but wrong people to see if this percent

00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.639
has increased. The PMF shows that individuals

00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.440
representing these TVET institutions will be

00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.460
asked, did you implement new strategies to recruit

00:36:42.460 --> 00:36:45.260
youth, women, people with disabilities? Yes or

00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:48.599
no? This is done through a survey and interviews.

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.059
Of course, they will say yes due to self -reporting

00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:57.059
social desirability bias. So they shouldn't be

00:36:57.059 --> 00:36:59.780
involved in this. Again, if you look at the PMF,

00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:05.920
it's the institutions, excuse me, serving. Of

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.239
course, they will say yes due to self -reporting.

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.639
So I have to look again at the PMF, but it's

00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.360
not mentioning as the data collector, person

00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:22.900
responsible is being. a external evaluator, which

00:37:22.900 --> 00:37:25.440
is what you should be doing instead. Going into

00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.880
the TVET institution using a predetermined checklist

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:33.639
that the institution actually has met the criteria

00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.079
of, yes, this TVET has indeed implemented a recruitment

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.199
system. And even if they did, does the institution

00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.000
have a system in place to counsel these three

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.119
groups? So external evaluator is what you need

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.110
to do instead. The second indicator for this

00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:53.510
outcome is level of confidence among counseling

00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:57.070
staff at TVAN institutions in their ability to

00:37:57.070 --> 00:37:59.590
effectively counsel students, including women,

00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:01.750
youth, and people with disabilities. Again, as

00:38:01.750 --> 00:38:06.570
you know, you can't do that, especially when

00:38:06.570 --> 00:38:09.469
you explicitly state ability to effectively counsel.

00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:13.789
I mean, wow. You don't ask them how they're feeling.

00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:17.300
You do an external evaluation. of their ability

00:38:17.300 --> 00:38:20.980
to counsel students. There's a whole pile of

00:38:20.980 --> 00:38:23.619
psychometric tools out there to measure. I mean,

00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.880
just go to any university in Canada that has

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.739
a master's program in counseling psychology.

00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:32.179
I'm quite sure there's a whole bunch of external

00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:35.500
measures, observation of their counseling with

00:38:35.500 --> 00:38:37.840
the student, rather than asking the counselor

00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.739
themselves to report on their self -confidence,

00:38:40.900 --> 00:38:44.659
right? So get an external evaluator, not a good

00:38:44.659 --> 00:38:49.769
indicator. And the last one, same problem. Level

00:38:49.769 --> 00:38:52.429
of confidence among recruitment staff at TVET

00:38:52.429 --> 00:38:54.769
institutions in their ability to effectively

00:38:54.769 --> 00:38:58.369
recruit. So that's the other skill. Counseling,

00:38:58.369 --> 00:39:01.010
now they're looking at recruitment skills. Again,

00:39:01.130 --> 00:39:03.610
same problem. Self -reporting confidence levels

00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:05.929
is not a valid measure of whether recruitment

00:39:05.929 --> 00:39:09.070
staff have the ability to effectively recruit

00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:14.989
students. So that's not good. Next. Expected

00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:18.730
outcome, enhanced access to economic opportunities

00:39:18.730 --> 00:39:22.449
in the labour market for TVET graduates, especially

00:39:22.449 --> 00:39:26.809
women and people with disabilities in high opportunity

00:39:26.809 --> 00:39:31.030
sectors. First indicator, percent of graduates

00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:34.050
who complete entrepreneurial training, who start

00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:38.510
their own business. Great indicator, great measurement

00:39:38.510 --> 00:39:42.000
through tracking. of graduates if you see their

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:46.079
pmf it's called a tracers study but all that

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.420
money to track these graduates just to ask hey

00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:51.400
dude have you got a business yes or no wouldn't

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.119
you want to ask hey are you making any money

00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.219
show me the money so a better indicator would

00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:00.920
be the mean monthly income earned from that business

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.659
and track it over time to see if it has increased

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:08.420
also no need to have a focus group as they talk

00:40:08.420 --> 00:40:10.730
about in the performance measurement framework,

00:40:10.849 --> 00:40:13.949
at least not at this point, until you first use

00:40:13.949 --> 00:40:17.530
this income indicator. Then if income has not

00:40:17.530 --> 00:40:20.869
increased, you could hold a focus group and ask

00:40:20.869 --> 00:40:23.690
them, what's going on, dudes? You've started

00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:27.650
a business. It's great, but you're not making

00:40:27.650 --> 00:40:31.730
any money from it. So what do we need to do to

00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:35.349
identify what are the problems as to why? you're

00:40:35.349 --> 00:40:37.670
not making any money. Is it because they didn't

00:40:37.670 --> 00:40:39.969
get the labor market analysis right in the first

00:40:39.969 --> 00:40:45.670
place? There's thousands of seamstresses already

00:40:45.670 --> 00:40:47.630
out there in the market that we can't compete

00:40:47.630 --> 00:40:49.849
with, even though I went to this institute and

00:40:49.849 --> 00:40:52.289
learned how to sew and graduate. I can't get

00:40:52.289 --> 00:40:56.489
any income. Maybe the United States or Canada

00:40:56.489 --> 00:40:59.070
are dumping used clothing into the market, which

00:40:59.070 --> 00:41:03.980
I can't compete against. Whatever, right? So

00:41:03.980 --> 00:41:08.000
a better valid indicator of enhanced access would

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.940
not be just starting up a business, but more

00:41:10.940 --> 00:41:16.480
money, right? And the next indicator, level of

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.199
satisfaction among graduates with their economic

00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.539
opportunities. Again, they might not be satisfied.

00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:24.340
It tells you, yeah, there's something wrong.

00:41:24.579 --> 00:41:27.280
But what you really want to do is focus on the

00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:31.400
income, right? And of course, we're assuming.

00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.159
They've acquired the necessary skill levels.

00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.219
I can't see anywhere where there's a certification

00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:41.619
testing program in the institute to make sure

00:41:41.619 --> 00:41:45.320
they've met a minimum standard to say that they're

00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.079
a carpenter or a plumber or a mason or a seamstress.

00:41:51.099 --> 00:41:56.780
Right? Or tailor, right? So if we track the income,

00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.079
we don't need the satisfaction levels. And remember,

00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.239
not other income sources, right? Got to make

00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.860
sure that they're actually making money from

00:42:06.860 --> 00:42:10.320
the training that this $5 million project gave

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.539
them in a particular technical vocation, right?

00:42:14.699 --> 00:42:18.139
Got to be very clear about that. It's a big problem

00:42:18.139 --> 00:42:20.820
in Africa where they'll have multiple sources

00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:23.519
of income and then you just ask them and they

00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.179
give you a summary number and you think, wait

00:42:26.179 --> 00:42:28.360
a sec, didn't we train you how to be a welder?

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.860
How much money do you make from welding? Nothing.

00:42:30.980 --> 00:42:35.260
Okay. And you'll notice the PMF does indicate

00:42:35.260 --> 00:42:38.179
that the project training will align with, quote,

00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:41.559
labor market needs. So satisfaction should be

00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:44.239
related to income rather than the frustration

00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.840
of not getting demand for their services after

00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.539
graduation, right? So the next indicator is percent

00:42:51.539 --> 00:42:54.659
of industry partners that hire a TVET graduate

00:42:54.659 --> 00:42:57.809
in the last year by field of study. and economic

00:42:57.809 --> 00:43:00.849
sector. Again, great indicator, but even better

00:43:00.849 --> 00:43:03.550
would be income levels. Because they could be

00:43:03.550 --> 00:43:07.289
hired, but paid a really bad wage, right? Or

00:43:07.289 --> 00:43:09.809
nothing at all. They could be an unpaid intern.

00:43:09.969 --> 00:43:12.650
We don't know what they mean by hired. So cut

00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:16.630
to the chase, find out the incomes. And we need

00:43:16.630 --> 00:43:18.530
to show that the income levels of the graduates

00:43:18.530 --> 00:43:21.190
are higher than those who did not get trained

00:43:21.190 --> 00:43:24.369
in technical vocation. Perhaps people that taught

00:43:24.369 --> 00:43:28.639
themselves to be a carpenter. Plumber or seamstress,

00:43:28.659 --> 00:43:34.000
right? Or tailor. Next outcome is strengthened

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.880
effectiveness of TVET agencies and institutions

00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.239
to provide inclusive and environmentally responsive

00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:44.260
TVET education to trainees, especially women

00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:47.500
in high opportunity sectors. First indicator,

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:51.239
percent of students who enter a TVET institution

00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.440
who graduate. Now remember, it's strengthened

00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.780
effectiveness. of TVET agencies and institutions

00:43:58.780 --> 00:44:01.960
to provide inclusive and environmentally responsive

00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.059
TVET education to trainees. It's very precise,

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.320
but the first indicator has got nothing to do

00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:10.940
with that. It's just saying whether or not they

00:44:10.940 --> 00:44:12.960
graduate or not. We don't want to know that.

00:44:13.099 --> 00:44:16.780
We want to know they not only graduated, but

00:44:16.780 --> 00:44:18.820
they are familiar with inclusive and environmentally

00:44:18.820 --> 00:44:23.460
responsive education, particularly women, right?

00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.559
And also, if you read the outcome, it's not about

00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.800
the student. It's about the institution being

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.719
inclusive and environmentally responsive in their

00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.619
education to the students. Right. So I would

00:44:38.619 --> 00:44:41.940
take it out. Who cares what the percent is of

00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:44.559
students who graduate? It's completely unrelated

00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.199
to the outcome. That's gone. Now, the next one

00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.519
indicator for this is. level of satisfaction

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:56.420
among TVET graduates with the quality of their

00:44:56.420 --> 00:44:59.599
TVET education. That's a little closer. It's

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:03.320
a good indicator since it asks the student if

00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.699
they are satisfied that the institutions indeed

00:45:06.699 --> 00:45:09.860
are delivering training that is, quote, inclusive

00:45:09.860 --> 00:45:12.960
and environmentally responsive. So you have to

00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.559
make sure that that satisfaction survey questionnaire

00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.199
that goes to the students contains questions

00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.139
specific. to that expected outcome regarding

00:45:23.139 --> 00:45:27.480
what we just said inclusive and environmentally

00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.900
responsive the only issue here is that this tracer

00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:34.659
study is delivered again by the project m e staff

00:45:34.659 --> 00:45:39.239
rather than an external evaluator ideally you

00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.800
want an external evaluator to be hired to review

00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:43.960
the course content develop questions for the

00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.400
students that measure satisfaction levels specific

00:45:48.030 --> 00:45:50.730
to being, quote, inclusive and environmentally

00:45:50.730 --> 00:45:54.570
responsive. But on the whole, it's a good indicator.

00:45:56.929 --> 00:45:59.650
So I've skipped the other indicator because I

00:45:59.650 --> 00:46:03.570
don't think it's relevant. So just one. So here's

00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:07.130
a new outcome. Increased participation of learners,

00:46:07.349 --> 00:46:10.670
particularly among youth, women, and learners

00:46:10.670 --> 00:46:14.210
in vulnerable situations in TVET education in

00:46:14.210 --> 00:46:17.579
high -opportunity sectors. First outcome indicator

00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:20.460
for this outcome is number of enrolled students

00:46:20.460 --> 00:46:24.519
annually in public TVET institutions. So here

00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.380
the only issue is whether this project is necessary

00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:31.920
to achieve increased enrollment in TVET institutions

00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.400
and increased percent within this enrollment

00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.199
of those who are youth, women, rural, or people

00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.780
with disabilities. What about another region?

00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:43.139
within the country where this project is not

00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:45.820
operating, and that regional government has a

00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:48.500
policy in place with the same expected outcomes.

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.480
Now, as I mentioned earlier, if this project

00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.340
covers the entire country, then this is not important.

00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:59.440
A review of the project browser indicates a countrywide

00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.400
project reaching all TVET institutions. That's

00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.059
what I'm assuming. So that's a good indicator.

00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.949
It's a good indicator. You want to... you want

00:47:09.949 --> 00:47:12.769
to get those enrollments up, right? And they've

00:47:12.769 --> 00:47:16.250
done some community announcements to try to get

00:47:16.250 --> 00:47:19.610
that enrollment up. Now, the next one is percent

00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:21.750
of graduates who are employed in their field

00:47:21.750 --> 00:47:26.190
within six months of graduation. Again, percent

00:47:26.190 --> 00:47:28.070
of graduates employed in their field is good,

00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:30.869
but an even better indicator would be their actual

00:47:30.869 --> 00:47:34.389
income from that employment. But I'm still accepting

00:47:34.389 --> 00:47:37.769
this indicator as a good one. And the disaggregation

00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:41.250
is really good. because you want to see those

00:47:41.250 --> 00:47:43.630
percents for women, people with disabilities,

00:47:43.710 --> 00:47:46.349
since that's a focus of the project. But again,

00:47:46.530 --> 00:47:49.550
there is no control or comparison group. So if

00:47:49.550 --> 00:47:52.469
those percents go up, they need to show that

00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:55.170
they're going up statistically significantly,

00:47:55.670 --> 00:47:58.530
right? So they need to take a sample of those

00:47:58.530 --> 00:48:02.030
graduates at different points in time, find out

00:48:02.030 --> 00:48:04.030
what percent of the sample actually say yeah.

00:48:04.699 --> 00:48:07.159
I got employed within six months of graduation.

00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:10.119
It's a simple yes. And compare that over time

00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:15.420
using a one -tailed, right -tailed alternative

00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:20.739
hypothesis with a P value less than 0 .05, right?

00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:26.500
The second indicator here is level of satisfaction

00:48:26.500 --> 00:48:30.179
within the industry of the ability of TVET graduates

00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:35.289
to fill labor market needs. in an environmentally

00:48:35.289 --> 00:48:40.070
responsive manner. We are assuming that the industry

00:48:40.070 --> 00:48:43.050
people who are interviewed support environmentally

00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:45.929
responsive manner. If the assumption is correct,

00:48:46.110 --> 00:48:49.329
the survey used here in the PMF would be acceptable,

00:48:49.550 --> 00:48:52.949
and this indicator complements the claim. The

00:48:52.949 --> 00:48:55.530
graduates are indeed being environmentally responsive.

00:48:56.010 --> 00:48:59.550
Again, an external evaluator, not the project

00:48:59.550 --> 00:49:02.690
staff, would be better for designing and delivering.

00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:05.389
the survey questionnaire. But I still went ahead

00:49:05.389 --> 00:49:07.989
and said this is a good indicator, despite that.

00:49:10.130 --> 00:49:13.969
The other indicator is, finally, level of community

00:49:13.969 --> 00:49:19.610
support for TVET as a means to promote women's

00:49:19.610 --> 00:49:21.710
equality. Because, you know, some people may

00:49:21.710 --> 00:49:24.429
dispute whether women should be involved in technical

00:49:24.429 --> 00:49:27.849
locations, right? And again, the indicator here

00:49:27.849 --> 00:49:31.630
is a percent surveyed from the PMF. And the percent

00:49:31.630 --> 00:49:34.309
could increase, but not enough to support effectiveness

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at P less than 0 .05. So there's no control group,

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no comparison group. So at the very least, they've

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got to do a proper sampling, two different points

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in time, and do a proper statistical test. And

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any undergraduate student majoring in the social

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sciences will learn the importance of inferential

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statistics and showing that any increase in the

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percent needs to be statistically significant

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to make the claim that it has increased not just

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due to chance, right? So my summary from all

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of this, the 29 outcome indicators for the 11

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expected outcomes, is that only four of the 29

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outcome indicators are valid measures of the

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project's 11 expected outcomes. So only two out

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of the 11, project outcomes could Humber Polytechnic

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claim that they've achieved their outcomes. So

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thank you for listening. That's the end of my

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review. And like I said, if you want to get the

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PMF and my critique in writing, you can just

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email me at evaluatecanadaid at gmail .com and

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I'll be happy to send it to you. Feel free to

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make any comments in the Spotify platform. where

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you now can make comments on any of the episodes.

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And stay tuned. My next episode is going to deal

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with an international organization that has finally

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decided to publish its PMF on its website, along

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with the data for their percent indicators. Unfortunately,

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in Canada, as you can see, we don't have any

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PMFs on any of these. organizations like Humber

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Polytechnic that are funded by the government

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of Canada. It should be a requirement that their

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PMF is on their website along with the data that

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goes with it. If you go to the project browser,

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they have data there, but it's absolutely useless

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data because it's not related to their outcomes

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or their outcome indicators. This is why I have

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to go and ask for the PMF through an access to

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information request. Thank you for listening.

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Stay tuned for the next episode. Bye for now.
