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Welcome to the Improving Development Evaluation Podcast.

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I'm your host David Wand,

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and welcome to episode four, part two,

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where we continue our review and critique

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of the Ghana Rural Integrated Development,

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that's GRID, G-R-I-D,

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International Development Organization,

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and their project in Ghana entitled,

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Improving the Well-Being of Rural Women and Girls in Ghana.

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The cost to the Canadian taxpayer for this project

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is $1,337,797,

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and it has 18 outcome indicators covering seven outcomes

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that we will review each of those 18 outcome indicators

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in this part two.

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On January 7th, I sent an email

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and also left a voicemail with GRID,

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inviting them to attend the podcast.

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I did not receive a reply.

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Then I followed up again inviting them also again

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on January 18th with an email and voice message,

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but so far have not heard a reply regarding my invitation

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for them to attend this podcast in part two,

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to respond to my critique.

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So I will go through the 18 outcome indicators

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covering the seven outcomes,

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starting with the first outcome,

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which is increased ability of responsibility bearers

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to protect the rights of women in Northern Ghana.

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For this outcome, they have two outcome indicators.

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The first outcome indicator is number of times strategies

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have been implemented by responsibility bearers

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to protect the rights of women.

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And the second indicator is the percent of women

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who are fairly or very confident

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that community leaders are protecting their rights.

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Now the problem with this indicator is

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the number of strategies that have been implemented

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by responsibility bearers to protect the rights of women

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is quite a good indicator.

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You would think that as the strategies go up,

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this shows an increased ability to advocate.

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The problem is there's no comparison group

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outside of the project of other responsibility bearers

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to see how well they are protecting the rights of women

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in Northern Ghana.

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So that was the problem with that indicator.

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The second indicator, percent of women who are fairly

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or very confident that community leaders

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are protecting their rights is also quite a good indicator

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because you would expect as confidence levels go up

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in these women, in their perception of the increased ability

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of these responsibility bearers,

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this would seem to be a good measure

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of their increased ability to protect them.

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But unfortunately again, there's no comparison group.

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So we don't know if responsibility bearers

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in another part of Ghana outside of the project

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could also be doing quite well.

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So that was the problem with these two indicators

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for that outcome.

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The next outcome is improved ability of women

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from 30 rural communities to advocate for their wellbeing.

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And there's three indicators for this outcome.

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The first indicator is the number of women farmers

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able to successfully advocate for long-term access to land.

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The second indicator is the percent of women

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who feel they are completely or mostly able to advocate

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on behalf of women's concerns.

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And the final indicator is percent of women co-op leaders

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able to identify one or more things they plan

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to lead their co-ops and or communities

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in doing to improve quality of life.

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The problem with this, the first indicator,

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able to successfully advocate for long-term access to land

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is that it doesn't directly measure

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the ability to advocate.

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A better measure would be just to look

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at the amount of land that they actually acquired

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for the women.

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If they're advocating for access to land,

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instead of advocating for access, successfully advocate,

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they should just look at how much land

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they were able to acquire for these women.

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You could even argue that it's not related,

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the indicator in its current form.

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So that would be a better way to improve the indicator

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to actually measure their improved ability to advocate.

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And that is actually getting the land for the women.

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The second indicator, percent of women who feel

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they're completely or mostly able to advocate

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on behalf of women's concerns, they're asking for feeling.

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And instead, as I've mentioned before,

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they should measure directly their ability to advocate,

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more objectively than just asking them if they feel

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they are completely or mostly able to advocate.

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It's not a proper objective measure

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of the ability to advocate.

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The third indicator, the percent of women co-op leaders

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able to identify one or more things they plan

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to lead their co-ops or communities in doing

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to improve quality of life.

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They measure this through focus group discussions

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and they only do it three times

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over four years of the project.

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This is not going to show that the training they received

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to advocate is actually responsible

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for their ability to advocate.

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There's no objective measure there.

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It's a focus group discussion

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and they don't do it frequently enough.

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They only do it three times over the four years.

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So again, a better measure of their ability to advocate

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would be to test them on their ability to advocate

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and maybe do that every six months

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and even better compare it against another group of women

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who are advocating outside of the project

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and see on the same measures, maybe a test

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or reviewing their advocacy products that they deliver,

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such as maybe a pamphlet or a radio announcement

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where they're advocating for these women's rights

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and they could compare the quality of the products

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they've produced against another group of women

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and rate and compare the quality

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of those products objectively.

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The next outcome is improved access to senior secondary

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and post-secondary education

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by young women in 30 rural communities.

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The two indicators for this outcome are

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the number of women less than 25 years of age

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attending secondary and post-secondary school

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and the number of women versus men

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completing senior secondary school by age 18.

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Now, these outcomes of improved access

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actually are quite straightforward

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because they're just trying to deliver more education

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to these women through cash to pay for their school fees

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or scholarships to pay for their post-secondary tuition.

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So this is pretty straightforward

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in terms of improving access to education.

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This would be considered to be good measures.

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The problem is it's more a service through cash

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and scholarships rather than expected outcomes

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after they've attended school.

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The next outcome is improved knowledge

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and skills in managing sustainable, resilient,

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and productive agricultural livelihoods

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by adult women in 30 rural communities.

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Here we have three outcome indicators for this outcome.

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The number of women able to produce nine bags of peanuts

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on one acre farms.

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Second indicator is the number of women

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owning one or more healthy female goats.

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And the third indicator is the percentage of women

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who are moderately or highly confident

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in their knowledge and skills in farm management

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for food and crop production.

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And the percentage of women who are moderately

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or highly confident in their knowledge and skills

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in livestock rearing.

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Now, I mentioned this in part one,

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they're getting close,

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number of bags of peanuts on one acre farms,

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it's pretty good, but they haven't weighed the bags,

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they could be empty.

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So we wanna get a third party to get in there

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and actually weigh the bags of peanuts.

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So we have the total weight of peanuts produced,

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which would be a good measure of their ability,

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skill and knowledge levels in growing peanuts,

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which is good.

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And even better, it should be the median weight of peanuts.

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And they should compare that against another group

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of women peanut farmers that did not get access

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to the training through this project.

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And hopefully you'll see the median weight

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of this group through the project

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having a higher median weight

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than the women outside of the project

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who did not receive any peanut farm training.

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And the same goes for the goats.

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You would wanna get the median number of goats

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and compare that with another group of women

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who are raising goats,

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but haven't had the opportunity to receive training

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on how to raise goats.

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is the confidence levels

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in their knowledge and skill levels.

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I would say you don't need that.

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If you're directly measuring

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their ability through how many peanuts

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in weight they produced

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and how many goats they have produced and sold,

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that would be sufficient.

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There's no need to ask them on their confidence levels

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regarding their knowledge and skills.

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So you wouldn't even need that third indicator.

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The next outcome is improved participation

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in equitable household and community decision-making

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by women in 30 communities in rural Northern Ghana.

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We have three indicators for that outcome,

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and they are number of community members

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reporting that women participate

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in key household decisions.

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Second indicator, number of community members

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who are satisfied with women's participation

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in community decision-making.

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And number three, the third indicator

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is the number of girls completing or planning

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to complete secondary school and post-secondary education.

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So in the first one, community members reporting

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that women participate in key household decisions,

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that's a bit of a tricky one

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because you're asking community members

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to report on another group of women.

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That's the women that actually are inside of the household.

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That is kind of questionable.

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I would rather survey the women themselves

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inside their households to see how they feel they're doing

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when it comes to participating in key household decisions.

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So there's the flaw there, there's not a direct measurement.

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The second indicator, community members who are satisfied

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with women's participation in community decision-making,

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that's a pretty good measure.

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They could improve it a bit by actually looking

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at the actual representation of women

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on these community decision-making bodies,

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such as boards, school boards, for example,

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or even municipal elected councils,

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to see the percentage of women that are on these boards.

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These are bodies, community decision-making bodies

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that actually have power to make decisions.

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As for the third one, I would take it out.

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Percent of girls completing secondary school

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or post-secondary school, yes,

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it's in a measure of improved participation,

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obviously through attendance,

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but it's not related, the completion of educational school

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with the equitable household decision-making.

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Although you could argue that the more girls

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that graduate from secondary school

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and post-secondary education,

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the more knowledge they have in terms of trying to make

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a decision in the household or at the community level,

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but the other two indicators, if improved upon,

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would be sufficient to measure improved participation.

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The next outcome is increased participation

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in sustainable productive work by women in 30 communities

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in rural northern Ghana.

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Here we have three outcome indicators for that outcome

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of increased participation in productive work.

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They are the percent of women earning $500 or more per year

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through productive work,

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the percent of women under 25 completing

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or expecting to complete secondary

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and post-secondary education,

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and the third outcome indicator for that outcome

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is the percent of young and adult women

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who think they are somewhat or very likely to be hired

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for a job outside their household.

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Now, the first indicator I've mentioned previously

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is excellent.

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They are trying to get at the incomes that are measured

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from learning how to grow and sell peanuts

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and learning how to raise and sell goats.

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So it's excellent.

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They're trying to get in the right direction.

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It just needs a slight correction,

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and that is instead of 500 per year,

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they should measure the median income

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of the 750 women in the project

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and watch their incomes go up.

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It also should be specific,

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like earlier in the performance measurement framework,

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they should be measuring the median incomes

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for those growing peanuts and those raising goats.

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So it's not just productive work,

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it's precise, specific to the project training,

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which is on how to grow peanuts

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and how to raise goats and sell them, right?

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The second indicator, again,

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is talking about completion rates for women

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in secondary school and post-secondary education.

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Yes, it's a good measure of increased participation

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in productive work because they will have the potential

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to increase their participation in earning a livelihood

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based on the benefit of completing their education.

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So yes, that is important.

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I think focusing on the incomes is sufficient enough,

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and I would eliminate that indicator.

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You can keep it into track how many women as an output

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completed their education after getting the cash

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from the project or getting the scholarship

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from the project, that's useful.

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But in terms of productive work,

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I would look at incomes as a better measure

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of whether or not they've increased their participation

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in productive work.

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The last outcome indicator there,

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dealing with the percent of women who think they are somewhat

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or very likely to be hired for a job

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outside their household, again,

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it's not a bad measure, but it's indirect.

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I would focus on the incomes.

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The next outcome is improved wellbeing of women and girls

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in 30 rural communities in Ghana's northern

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and Brong Ahafl regions.

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And the indicators there, they have, there's two indicators.

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The first one is percent of women living on $2 US

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or more per day.

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And the second indicator is level of perceived wellbeing

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on a scale from one to 10 of the participating women.

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Now the first indicator is a standard,

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I think, World Bank measure.

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They don't have to do that.

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They can just, again, focus on the incomes over time

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for the project, for the training they have received.

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They don't have to stretch it and try to claim

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that there's this percent of women in the larger community

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living on $2 US per day.

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There's no connection.

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It's too far stretched.

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They should just focus on the incomes of the women

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in the project to make sure that they have been going up.

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And ideally, they should compare it against women

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who are not receiving training on how to grow peanuts

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and how to raise goats and track their incomes also.

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And hopefully the project will have higher median incomes

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than those women not in the project.

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That will be a better way of evaluating

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the effectiveness of the training project

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that we're talking about today.

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Now the second indicator, the level of perceived wellbeing

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of participating women, that's a pretty good indicator.

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I think it's okay.

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But if we look at the performance measurement framework

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in more detail, you'll notice it's only measured once

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per year over this four years of this project.

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So it would be very difficult to claim

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that the perceived wellbeing is going up

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if it is in fact going up,

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that it's due to all this wonderful training

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that these women are receiving on how to grow

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and sell peanuts and how to raise and sell goats

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if it's only measured once a year.

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There could be other factors involved

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in why their perceived wellbeing is going up

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that has nothing to do with the training

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they received in the project.

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So ideally what you'd like to do

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is measure it more frequently in the project

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and again compare it, this perceived level of wellbeing

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with other women outside of the project.

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Ideally those also involved in peanut farming

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and goat farming and then you could show

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that the perceived wellbeing is going up greater

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in the project compared to the women outside of the project

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who are also measured on their perceived wellbeing.

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Now in addition to these seven outcomes

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and the 18 outcome indicators I've covered,

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there's also another eight outcome indicators

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that all have the same problem.

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They have pre-test before the training

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and a post-test just once before they get tested

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on the knowledge and skill levels

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of the content of the training

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and then they get tested once more afterwards.

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Now that's pretty good.

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They're at least doing some objective testing

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which is great.

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The problem is they only do it once before and once after

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and as I've explained in the trailer,

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they need to show more frequent testing

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unless it's done during the same day.

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Now that's interesting.

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750 women, they come in and do a test before the training

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and then are tested after the training

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and you could show that their skill levels have gone up

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from the test, that would be good.

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We don't know from the performance measurement framework

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if it's a same day training.

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Ideally what you also want to have is a comparison group

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where they're measuring women

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who don't attend the training at all

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but are also given the same test before and after.

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That's ideally what you want to do

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so you also want to have a comparison group

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and those content trainings are in the following areas.

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Ability to identify justice issues specific to women

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along with an appropriate solution.

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Ability to identify key actions to maintain health.

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Ability to identify best practices

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for safe food preparation.

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Ability to identify ways of successfully accessing markets

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and understanding of basics in sustainable peanut farming

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and small ruminant rearing.

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And knowledge of peanut farming

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and knowledge of small ruminant husbandry.

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I guess that's the goats.

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And knowledge of women's concerns.

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So they do pre and post testing

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for these various subject areas

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but I think if they had comparison groups

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that would be better because then they could show

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that the project training is more effective

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increasing knowledge and skill levels in these subject areas

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compared to a group of similar women

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who are not in the project.

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So now that I've finished my review and critique

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of all the outcome indicators for the project,

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if you want to email me at evaluatecanadaaid at gmail.com,

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I would be happy to send you

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the performance measurement framework for this project

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as well as the summary of all of the 18 outcome indicators.

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And once again, if there are any evaluation experts

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out there who would like to participate in a part two

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of a podcast where we go through all the outcome indicators

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explaining how they do or do not fit properly

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with the measurement of the outcome,

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feel free to email me and I'm happy to send you

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the remaining performance measurement frameworks

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along with my critique

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of the performance measurement framework

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so that you could participate

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as we have a lot more PMFs coming shortly.

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Now what I will do is I will email this part two

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and part one to the minister for international development

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along with the shadow critics for international development

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for the conservative party, the new democratic party

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and the Bloc Québécois.

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And I will also recommend in that email

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that performance measurement frameworks

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immediately be available to the public

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on the Government of Canada,

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Global Affairs Canada project browser website.

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And obviously also recommend that there be improvements

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in development evaluation

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by developing better outcome indicators

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to measure project outcomes.

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Thank you very much and stay tuned for episode five,

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part one where we will be introducing once again

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another project and the project that we will be doing

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in episode five, part one, cost to the Canadian taxpayer,

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$19 million.

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So stay tuned and thank you for listening.

