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This is Alamo Anka, where we the overtaxed remember our liberty.

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Direct from the forgotten countryside outside of Alamo City San Antonio.

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I'm your host Joe and we have two lovely co-hosts here with us. Would you

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introduce yourselves? I'm Michelle and I'm Emily. Welcome to the show. Thanks Joe. By way of

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introduction we live in the San Antonio area in Texas. Lately we've been getting

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more involved in local politics, looking at our property taxes rise, that sort of

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thing, and thinking what can we do about this other than what we're already

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trying to do? You know, fight at the hearings for property taxes, going to

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like community meetings or whatever. We thought well maybe we should start a

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podcast and talk about these things, talk about local issues and just whatever

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else interests us. That's right and I think that a lot of people go to the

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polls and they're ready to vote and then they see what they're voting for and

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they don't know anything about it. And who has time as a working-class person

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to look up all of the news articles about everything that's on the ballots?

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So I, Joe, Emily and I thought it would be a good idea to start this podcast to

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inform local citizens of what their government is doing. We're all busy and

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it would be really nice to have somebody who has gone to school board meetings,

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who goes to city council meetings, kind of has an idea of what's going on a

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little bit. On today's show, Joe, we're going to talk about a couple things. This

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format will pretty much go like this. We will talk about some local issues such

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as the local tax battle that we fight on the county level. We will also be

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discussing some state-level things such as the constitutional amendments that

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are going to be on the November ballot. We also will be talking about the issue

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of migration that's happening in Eagle Pass. It's overwhelming the system. It

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actually caused the city of Eagle Pass to go to have a state of emergency

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declared by their mayor and Governor Abbott. And then we're gonna finish up

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with some local fun stuff. I like to get on the Nextdoor app or as Joe likes to

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call it the next dog app. So true. I assure you that we will not be discussing

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lost dogs on this, okay? So that's my promise to you today.

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I'd be more interested in that. No more dogs. I mean not that we're anti dog. A

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little anti dog. Then you're anti dog. You're a hater Emily. Do you know what I am? I'm anti

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people who leave their dogs home all day and they the dogs bark all day while

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the people, while their owners are gone. That's what I'm anti. You've had

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experience with this? All day every day. How? Can you hear him inside or just

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outside? Both. Really? Well you know what I'm an anti dog of? People who let their

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dogs wander. Yesterday I was walking in Devine and a husky and a dachshund

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surround me as I'm walking to the golf course. And I was being hunted and then

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there was a third one coming up. They're like raptors. I'm a dog person. You guys

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know this. I have two Pyrenees here at home. I love dogs but honestly it's

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unpredictable. You don't know what these dogs are gonna do. So I went in the

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bathroom in the golf course bathroom and waited. Like maybe they'll go away. Sat

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there for a minute and then I came out. They were still there. Scared me.

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Moving on from the dog issue. No no I'm telling Emily to get closer to her mic.

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I'd love to hear more about that. Yeah yeah yeah Pyrenees they're they're great.

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Okay so what's our? We're not even talking about Pyrenees Joe. That's how much you don't care about dogs. You don't even want to hear. You mentioned what you have. You had two

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Pyrenees at home and I said that great. Husky and a dachshund. But anyway go on.

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No you're the one with the agenda. Okay so the first one. Yep the first one we're

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gonna talk about is about the Hondo News. The headline that was in the Hondo News.

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Emily's got it right there. Go ahead Emily. It says repairs all over city moving

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forward. Street work begins this week south of 24th Street. So why in this why

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in the world is this controversial Emily? How could you? It's like yeah what's

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wrong with getting your the the roads repaired? Everyone wants nice roads right?

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It's like hating dogs. So if you've ever driven through the streets of Texas you

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might have encountered a pothole here and there and you know nobody likes that.

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We all want it smooth and they're smoothing it out. They're finally doing

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it after all this time and so I think we all appreciate that. I do find it a

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little bit suspicious that they're doing it right before the election and after

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an entire up to this point calendar year of people going in and protesting their

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property taxes. What do you guys think about that? Well we were talking about

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this earlier and I I can't help but this is just like such a perfect example like

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the classic thing. If you talk to anybody in the world about you know reducing the

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size of government or you know maybe we should abolish the government in this

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area or this you know if we say taxation is theft I mean so just so you all know

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we're pretty right-leaning libertarian leaning on this show.

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Full disclosure of our bias. Liberty minded yeah and so the common you know thread in that is

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that we feel like we're being robbed when we get taxed a lot of the times and

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so then the the first thing anybody ever says all the time is what about the

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roads right? And so it's just I think you know I'm with you I don't know that

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this is much of a coincidence. It's the thing that everybody sees the most

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everybody experiences on a day-to-day basis and it's the thing that everybody

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knows is provided by the government and so it's like oh they are doing their

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job you know it's hard to not think that that's really what's going on with the

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timing at least. I also just want to add my beef is that we don't have a really

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clear trustworthy you know the information isn't clear and trustworthy

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as to how much goes in and how much goes out. I don't know how what what really is

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going on with their budget and it is my understanding that constitutionally that

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information is supposed to be clear. So I think that when forced to for example

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there's a firm in the United States called Open the Books and they go around

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and they try to make sure that on every level of government federal state and

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local that every body of government does show right what it is like how much

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transparency yeah they're trying to force transparency which

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constitutionally they're supposed to do that anyway but they don't necessarily

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and so you can go they actually have an app and a website OpenTheBooks.com

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you can go and look in whatever county you live in and you can try and see like

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how much do all these school district employees make you know for example or

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any employee in your city or county. So I don't know and I don't I don't know if

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anybody who besides probably a handful of people in the local government or

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state government depending on what Rhodes were talking about knows how much

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it's costing even though they put some information you know in these articles

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and like did they find the cheapest best you know way to do it I don't know

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because it's not their own checkbook and I don't know how much they have like how

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much are they actually gathering all this information should be clear but it

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doesn't seem clear to me so it seems to me even if they do at some point do a

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good job of smoothing the roads over and you know maintaining them it it is not

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obvious and clear that they are being efficient and that they're not way

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overtaxing for that purpose. Especially when you read articles like this one

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which I it's from the I guess the same newspaper Anvil Harold right is that

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Hondo this is from Hondo Harold and Hondo Anvil what the heck is Anvil I

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don't know Harold. It's the thing that falls on cartoon characters. Yeah it has nothing to do with

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blacksmithing it's just like Wiley Coyote getting hit. Greenlight given to

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supplement salaries of employees in several county offices okay this came

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out recently. Medina County Commissioners voted four to zero to supplement

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salaries for employees in the Medina County auditors treasures and tax

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offices using tax increment reinvestment zone and public improvement district

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fees. So say what that actually means. You translate it for us. Well it sounds to me like they're

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saying they're using part of the money from taxes to supplement the salaries of

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the auditor and treasury tax offices right but they already are tax getting

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tax money so I don't know what that means like I don't know what do you think?

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Well my understanding of this was that they had money left over whatever that

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means. After the budget. Yeah surplus after the budget. After the budget and then they

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were taking what was left over and decided to just give themselves raises

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until the money ran out. Am I wrong? Then that's what it sounds like to me. Should I

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read further? And it's especially galling that it's the people that's handling the

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money. That's the thing. And like taking it you know. How about we give ourselves a raise we

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deserve it we've worked hard this summer we had to endure many hours of

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protesting of angry citizens. Can't imagine why they're so angry. You wouldn't

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believe the amount of money we had to count this year. So I don't know who this

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is Medina County auditor Edward or Eduardo Lopez noted quote we did reach

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out to determine whether we can use some of the fees these offices received from

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PID and TIRZ to supplement some of the employees salaries in these offices. The

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answer was yes. Okay I don't know what PID stands for do you guys know? No. Oh

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wait well we know that the TIRZ stands for Treasurer's I'm sorry Tax Increment

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Reinvestment Zone. That's TIRZ but I don't know what PID stands for. So I mean

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are you gonna come out against people treating themselves? I mean treat

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yourself. Treat yourself. Remember that? I don't run parks in it. Yeah. There are people too. Treat yourself. It'd be nice to treat myself. I'm just happy we can pay our mortgage with an increase of the taxes. Don't have much to treat myself with. Yeah you know and

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like I get it that there are some times where they miscalculate and then they

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need to figure out what they should do with the money. One thing this is kind of

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a tangent but if anybody's been following Vivek or Vivek Ramaswamy

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who's one of the people running for the presidential nomination for the

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Republican Party and one of the things that he points out and this is in the

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federal budget obviously is that the language changed at one point with

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budgetary considerations from being that Congress may spend you know X amount of

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money to Congress shall spend X amount of money and so this is like an

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accounting like a thing that they did to make it so if there is budget left over

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it's not like they can be like well we'll take it or leave it we could leave it

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there for next year whatever it's kind of written as part of the law implicitly

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because a budget you know it's it's passed by Congress saying that you must

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spend it and so even if it you reach all of your obligations for that budget well

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you still need to spend it and I've heard this my whole life talking to

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people that work in school districts and whatnot and it's like well we had this

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money left over and if we don't spend it then our budget goes down next year and

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that's why you get all like this crazy wild spending. Can we do a full

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disclosure here so people know where we are because then I don't want ever to

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get people to find out about our families and go those big hypocrites.

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Both Joe and my husband work for the federal government. Can we say you're a

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little bit less working for the federal government than Jay because you work for a

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contracting company which gets their money from the federal. To clarify it's a

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company with government contracts. That's right. I don't want to I'm not a

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contractor like a freelancer like working through something like you know. You work for a company.

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I work for a company and that company has defense contracts.

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Yes and then my husband works directly he's prior military and he now works

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still with the Air Force but I do want to say a couple things about the system

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because it's especially with the education system and our property taxes

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when it comes to this stuff I feel like we've done this to ourselves as citizens.

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We've created a system by allowing government out of me I don't know why or

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how. It seems like with the education system in the name of convenience in the

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name of I don't know well we want that we want to educate our children and we

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think that's the best way but we have handed over so much control and power to

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this educational system that has become a monster that we cannot scale back.

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It's it's just too difficult because what's happened is it started small. I

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mean I'm always a big picture person so I'm always looking at like okay how did

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this even start where did we come from we used to have the you know Little

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House of Prairie I imagine the 19th century the Little Red Schoolhouse with

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the one teacher that the local neighborhood or citizens paid for

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together they put their money together and paid this teacher and built this

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house schoolhouse and they that educated the children in that area now we've

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grown into this monstrosity of a public school system that we cannot scale back

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and so I you know I look back at the 20th century and I see that parents have

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pretty much just take given that away to the educational system in the name of

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well first somewhere to send their kids while they go to school you know kind of

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a daycare type system. That's what I meant work you know and then but and

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also full disclosure my mother's a school teacher but we had this discussion

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the other day how ironic it was that my mom she was divorced she had no she you

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know she didn't have much of a choice because her degree was in education but

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and so that was the only job she could get or at least didn't want to be in

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squalor so she became a school teacher and anyway we were she schooled

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everybody else's kids and then our our grades were suffering this is not a dog

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on my mom my mom was fantastic it's just to show how we have kind of the school

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system has become somewhat of a daycare center and there's no need for it to be

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as long as it is like the school days don't need they I just talked to someone

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the other day who was it that just moved here from Arizona I think or Utah I

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can't remember and she was shocked at how long the school days are here hmm

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her kids leave have to get up at 630 they have to be at school by 730 and

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they're there to almost 4 o'clock that is a long school day for a kid why it's

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not necessary you know it's interesting about that it's just the other day I was

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listening to Chris Christie yeah he was the governor of what New Jersey yeah he

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was also a presidential candidate one time he is right now oh he's running

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again he's running again this is the first I've heard his name over and over

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again but I had never read anything that he had written or listened to him or

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anything until this one podcast I was listening to is Jordan Peterson's

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podcast and he was being asked questions like how would you fix the school system

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stuff like that and one of the things that he said as a Republican candidate

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is that if he were president then he would have the federal government take

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the lead in school choice so I think he knew that's one thing that everybody

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wants he was saying that but then he also said he would make the school days

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longer and add weekends and I thought does he have any idea who he's talking to like does he know who his

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audience is because it's obvious that it's so long and so hard on the kids

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already there's so little family time I mean how many families is it the

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situation where their kids go they go to school or they get dropped off somewhere

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first oh yeah they have the pre what do you call that before school care and

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after school care right yeah and then they go uh-huh and then they go home they

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eat and they go to bed and they start over that's right yep in the interest of

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full disclosure we all homeschool our kids yep Emily and I are married and we

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homeschool our kid kids kids just think anyway and Michelle also homeschools

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her kid I can say that I was already moved on to your kid

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all of us also have had school had our kids in the public school system as well

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and we all grew up in going to public school yes government school I mentioned

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this just because you know several years ago we started kind of looking into

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homeschooling and one of the things that really kind of called to me was what

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someone wrote about how when you sent your kids to school you are giving away

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your kids best hours when they're you know well fed and well rested you know

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whatever and then they get home and it's like they've endured you know

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sometimes like mental social trauma they're tired you know they've been

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sitting around for a long time and then you got to go home and it's like a my a

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mad rush to get every all the night stuff done they're the end of the rope

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and that one thing that this family found is that it's like we get to see

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them like during the whole day and especially you know when they're like

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bright and ready to go and you know I read someone's Facebook post the other

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day saying you know something like always our kids are at school eight hours

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a day please don't send them home with two hours of homework you know you've

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had them for eight hours you can get this done like this is the only family

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time we have and I just thought a like how sad that is because it's true can

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you imagine real quick if you had to after an eight hour shift at work come

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home and do more school more work yeah but that's what we expect our kids to do

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I'm always just blown away at that I'd like give me a break I always also feel

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like I can't believe how how long this has gone on without like major

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blowback or resistance but where all these parents and there are so many of

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them so many of us who've had this experience where you think you know what

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I'm gonna do the right thing and I'm gonna take my kid out of school today

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and we're gonna go have some family time we're gonna go to the beach how dare

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you just do something together you know to strengthen our family and they get

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these dirty we all have had them dirty letters you know in the mail from the

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school district threatening you because it's a criminal offense right like a

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criminal offense I mean it's supposed to be compulsory your kids it's a

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compulsory it is and then also leading up to elections and stuff like that

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seeing how much this message it goes on the message boards you know over

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highways it's like on TV shows and radios and commercials and magazines

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that come in the mail I'm sure through teachers unions and like everywhere you

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look about how attendance matters and how your kids not gonna be able to get a

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job when they get a high school if you do this you can't be taking these days

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off because obviously if you're doing this you don't care about their education

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and they're just not gonna have the certification that they need or there

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they'll tell you how many hours for example I have seen this I'm not even

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making this part up unlike the rest of where they'll tell you how many hours of

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math they will not have done if you pull them out two days I can't represent a

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month or a year but in either case to me that seems negligible it doesn't matter

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and how by the time they get graduate they will have missed like so much like

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six weeks of math or something like that and you're thinking they have got to be

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joking the implication in that message is that every moment is hard like

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learning right that they're doing there and none of it is just like all the

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passing time please all of the time wasting yeah the waiting for the next

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thing or just on even on tablets and stuff like that there's a lot of their

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phones and let's say that like let's say they have you know an hour and a half or

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an hour of math a day or whatever how much of it is like explaining something

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that has already been explained and so like half the class they're either get it

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or they don't care and then how much of it is correcting your work passing

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papers and I don't know how they do it these days but yeah back to my original

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point with us we created this monster because we pretty much have given our

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rights away to the schools Emily just made the point they made a compulsory

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or kids have to be there unless you pull your kids out and what is sorry just

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really quick what does that mean I mean just I want to make sure people walk

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through the logic of that if they say it's illegal for you to not have them go

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to school what's the next step let's say you just say no I'm just not gonna make

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them today they're having a hard day you then what get if it's bad enough I know

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they give you a few chances right okay so what have they send you a letter

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chances then you have to go to court okay so let's say you go to court and

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you're found guilty of not sending them to school when they think you should

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have then what fine okay so now let's say you don't pay the fine well I think

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it's like one of those things where if you keep doing it CPS it might be

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involved but I'm not a hundred percent sure so this is just me guessing also my

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experience with you know some of my work so then ultimately the separation of a

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family right or you may be going to jail depends on the state too

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yeah it depends on the state the locality or whatever yes I'm sure they

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know that it's terrible PR if they actually follow through with it this

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whole idea of you know whether you get like CPS involved because I think that

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people in the community might quickly get on board with this idea that you're

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being negligent if you are not you know educating you're not sending them to

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school you're not cooperating with the school board or whatever I mean I would

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think that realistically with people that don't want a lot of bad press they

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would probably just say well here's the process for homeschooling them you just

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need to affirm these seven things that you're gonna teach them it just sends

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paper and then you can have them out of the school or whatever you know what I

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mean I would think that they would kind of push that process along but yeah

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absolutely I mean you hear about it every once in a while you read it about

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a case of somebody being brought to court or having their kids taken away

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or whatever it just seems like one of those leverage things where as much as

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they want to do it to you they could you know it's just kind of fun if you stop

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and look at it because at the beginning we were like here here's our kids and

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then now it's like can we have our kids for a minute and they're like oh no can

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we go see them in their class no okay but I don't want people to think that

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I'm so anti public school I am not naive enough to think that everyone can be

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homeschooled there are some people single moms that could not they would

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need the help of the community because they have to they have to you know be

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able to provide for their families and that my mom was one of them but it's

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just ironic because the job she chose was a school teacher it's just funny to

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me but can I clarify one thing right I think the problems that we have are

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majorly with the system yes we all know a lot of like teachers like your mother

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included right where it's like great people they want nothing more than to

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uplift children every day absolutely you know like they and I think that a lot of

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people recognize that these children are in bad situations and they're like this

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is the one time during the day when they'll have somebody who loves them or

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whatever depending on the teacher but you know I think there are a lot of

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teachers like that kind of once you're in that system it becomes very

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frustrating and one of the things is that schools are contingent like the

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the money that they get is contingent on them teaching certain stuff and so like

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oh well if you teach this curriculum then you'll get this amount of state

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funding oh if you include this then you get some federal funding or our

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district has to affirm that it's becoming bigger because now we've got more money

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involved which it gets more employees involved. The day gets longer and longer recesses get

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shorter and shorter and it's all this well we don't want to leave this money

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on the table you know whatever so it kind of becomes a self-looking ice cream cone

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it becomes a self-looking ice cream cone. Just really like that. Just that one of the things that school districts do for funding is they give kids all these different levels of disability status that benefit the school so the more types

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of disabilities that they can label your kid with the more money your kid is

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worth to that school from the state right so I just want to point that out and

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then if you look around you think you know I remember when I was a kid it

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didn't seem like there's so many kids who were disabled or were called disabled

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or pathologized right there's a pathology for every little thing you know

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I'm not saying they're actually disabled but they're labeled disabled. I know what I was gonna say I mean if your leg

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disabled that makes sense but just if you're having trouble sitting in your

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chair for eight hours straight then maybe they need to let you outside for a bit

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maybe you're a child maybe you're a child imagine that yeah so what I was gonna

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say about that here in Texas if you know if you're listening from out of state we

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it's been in the news the property taxes have grown exponentially they're

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unsustainable almost we're at the brink of unsustainability I'm sure that for

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some people it is unsustainable I agree with that I think that we know several

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people who have are have been right on the edge of selling their houses and

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leaving that's right because they cannot afford their mortgages anymore with the

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escrow because of the taxes that's the thing that just this is a wild card that

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keeps changing which I want to say one other thing earlier when we were talking

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about the extra money that the county had they were allowed to just give to

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themselves as bonuses is this I mean I don't know this is just a crazy idea but

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would it is there some reason they can't just give it back to the people that they

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took it from that's like governor Abbott that's right I was gonna say so and I

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think that that's one of these propositions yeah is to temporarily

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increase the homestead exemption for property taxes from forty thousand to

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a hundred thousand yes using this extra whatever surplus money in the state

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budget so it'd be a temporary thing so that it is this temporary thing we're

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voting as it isn't it a constitutional amendment I don't think it's temporary

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it says temporary in it in the constitutional amendment well before you

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start going into that let me finish my thought here so here in Texas like I

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said we are going through this property tax problem and what's happening we keep

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going it is a crisis but on top of that we have other things going on in our

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country that's affecting us in Texas as well as it's affecting everyone else in

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the country which is inflation and the increase of interest rates and just the

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economy in general is starting to hurt Texans and so what my point was in

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telling you about the system this education system that we've created

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after disclosing that we are part of a system right Joe you're part of a system

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Jay's part of a system we've got to think outside the box to make some

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drastic changes which is why I brought this up about the school system and why

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I brought up homeschooling because everyone thinks that you think we're

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gonna keep going on status quo and status quo is bankrupting us is what I'm

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trying to say we went to the the school board meeting last last year when it was

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just starting in 2022 at Medina Valley High School and I remember addressing

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them and just saying like there's good people in this community who've worked

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as teachers ironically and are retired and now they're getting hit you know not

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just teachers but I'm just saying I gave them an example of teachers at this they

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had a retirement and now their own the property tax that are funding the very

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schools that they taught at and retired from are what bankrupt is bankrupting

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them which is so ironic so we need to make some serious changes in how we do

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things so that you know we got to fix this system and that you know that's

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kind of why I homeschool my daughter and I'm not saying that everyone should do

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it but I am saying it's worth looking at it's worth looking at other alternatives

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to what what we're doing currently that's bankrupting us it's like do we

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really want to shoot ourselves in the foot or do we want to try to find a way

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out of this so that's good so looking over that a minute real quick I it seems

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to me like what the change in the Constitution might be is to allow them

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to clarify that Constitution not US Constitution yeah this is what's coming

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up in the ballot right in November yeah I don't know I could be wrong about this

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but I know I've read the short part should go ahead it says the

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constitutional this is how it will read on the ballot to increase the amount of

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the exemption from ad valorem taxation by a school district which is the

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lion's share of the property taxes that we pay okay so this goes to the school

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district it's at least half applicable to residents homesteads so right now

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we're exempt from being taxed on the first forty thousand dollars of value on

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our homesteads mm-hmm this would take it from forty thousand to a hundred thousand

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but it does say it's temporary right if I were to guess it would be the change

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that the Constitution would do allow them to create temporary exemptions and

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then they at the same time they would pass this temporary exemption as a as a

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house bill or something like that so it's got to be an amendment so we have

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to vote on it yeah and my guess is every educator in the state is gonna be voting

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against this measure right because it's protecting their salaries right well and

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the way that it's you know they're like I was saying earlier they're like with

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the school attendance thing same thing with this election that's coming up I've

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seen magazines in the mail I assume from teachers unions and

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organizations like that you know and in other places but where the way that it's

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proposed is do you want education first or not right so if you want to lower

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this property tax if you want to pay less property tax that means that you

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do not think the education is the number one important thing that's the way that

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they frame it and it's unfair to say that because a lot of the people that

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are suffering from this are people who are retired and I'm not talking about the

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65 year old you know grandpa who's exempt from this I'm talking about

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people in the in-between stage that don't have children at home they're not

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benefiting from the school system per se they are as a community I you know

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there's that argument presumably we're all benefiting from a quote-unquote

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educated citizenry but you have to define what that means to me because I

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don't know I to me it's just okay it's it's just okay education you know well

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none of that I mean it would be a whole nother long long discussion it would to

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go into the harms right like some of the harms that are coming to students in

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these government schools so what's an alternative why don't we talk a little

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bit about what we're doing just a little bit go yeah go for it so there's a few

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of us and this is what I suggest to our listeners who are considering the same

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things we've thought about which can I just say yeah probably to begin with

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most of our listeners will just be people we know we love you and a lot of

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them don't agree with our views on the schools of whatever but okay but um for

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those who are listening who thought about these things and are like hey

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what's the first step we actually know someone who is is our good friend

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Jonathan Hodnett who is starting a school he doesn't call it a school he

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calls it a learning center which I think is a good name for it and because it

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isn't necessarily a school a traditional school right well and there's a

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technical reason for that too like if he were to call it a private school then

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the government gets to tell him how to do it all the hours that needs to be and

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what he has to teach and that's exactly what we don't want that's right so it's

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a learning center that a few kids get together every day well see three days a

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week and then they do different projects they work with animals because they're

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they have a farm a small farm there they work on projects like they just recently

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built a go-kart which I thought was really cool they work on their sports

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whatever they're playing they have practice right now it's soccer I believe

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did see him do basketball the other day a little bit of that some music some

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student-led peer-led yeah they're starting a band over there yeah I think

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it's great awesome and the philosophy behind it is that well hold on one

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second before you tell that so that's the first half of the day is when

422
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,480
they're doing all the stuff that you just talked about Michelle then they

423
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,160
like super practical skills to there they make lunch make their own lunch

424
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,000
right like they cook yep you know and they and all of this is supervised by

425
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,840
the way it's not just a bunch of kids randomly cooking and burning down stuff

426
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,640
there but they do you do a lot themselves at the same time so it's not

427
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
like constantly over their shoulder but they are gaining you know mentorship and

428
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,800
help and everything and encouragement along the way and then in the last three

429
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,440
hours of the day that's when they do their more traditional academic stuff so

430
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,960
they do an hour of reading an hour of language arts and an hour of math or if

431
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560
they have other things that they need to work on like they have lately they've

432
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,560
all needed to write papers for a class that they're doing then they would work

433
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,800
on their essays and and yeah so go ahead I was just a beautiful thing I mean so

434
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,840
they're socializing so a lot of the things we get from and by the way this

435
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,720
podcast was not meant to be focused on homeschooling we just we're talking

436
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,920
about and I'm very passionate about it being someone who wasn't homeschooled

437
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,080
went through the public system I just felt like I got a subpar education I

438
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,480
can't complain enough about it at part of it was my own family issues that were

439
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,720
going on but what's beautiful about this is our kids aren't on screens right and

440
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:23,960
they socialize and they have and this is part of the experiment right like it is

441
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:31,000
like one of the main goals of this school or learning center is to have a

442
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,680
particular culture right and so that all the kids love each other like they're

443
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,080
they're good to each other and they encourage one another and they play

444
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,360
together well and they you know they help teach each other and stuff like

445
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:50,400
that there's no none of the anxiety that and the stress that I see kids having

446
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,920
at regular schools so yeah so what is it VFD learning center is that what it is

447
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,640
and so as far as I understand right now they're still kind of building out the

448
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,800
business and we have our kids there but they will it is a business and it will I

449
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,920
think they'll be accepting enrollment soon yes for new students we'll be

450
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,480
keeping you updated on that as that's speaking of it being a business I just

451
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,200
wanted that's one other thing I just remembered about it that I really like

452
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,840
is that so Jonathan knows how to start businesses and run businesses and so

453
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,120
that's one of the things for all the students who are interested that he's

454
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,320
letting them go through the steps of turning it into and like in a more

455
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,960
official business yeah so they know how to start a business and if they have any

456
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,920
business ideas of their own I mean I know some of the younger ones they want

457
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,240
to sell chicken stuff chicken eggs chicks what are they called when they're

458
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,600
between chicks and full-grown whatever those are don't put me on the spot

459
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Jay would know that you know laying hens roosters yeah like they want to do this

460
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,200
and he knows how to do it and they're helping him with the web application and

461
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,200
all that yeah yeah and so great similarly like I would think just anything

462
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,600
that they want to do this is my understanding of it maybe you can correct

463
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:12,800
me is that part of the idea of the tuition is just if you wanted to start

464
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,800
a business where you're like I want to start selling these things on Etsy here

465
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
it's like okay well what would we need to be able to make those things okay

466
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,560
well let's buy this like leather working stuff or whatever it is right so that

467
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,240
they can do it then at the school and that to connect continually build out the

468
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:34,640
capabilities of what people are able to do there so they could say I have this

469
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,400
idea I want to start doing this and it's like okay well let's figure it out you

470
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,080
know instead of just being like well we don't offer that here so great all right

471
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,240
well next we were gonna talk about the issue that's going on in Eagle Pass

472
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:51,480
there was a growing wave of migration this is from the Wall Street Journal so

473
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,000
it was so bad that Eagle Pass mayor Rolando Salinas jr. declared a state of

474
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,240
emergency as thousands of migrants are entering daily quote overwhelming the

475
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,040
resources of the federal border agents and the communities only shelter so

476
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:13,000
total amount in like a week guess how many a hundred thousand not that many

477
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,120
okay ten thousand ten thousand in a week okay I don't know how much it's up to

478
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,360
this year but it's if it's been ten thousand a week must be quite a bit in a

479
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,560
year right it's getting so bad in fact and this is very controversial to some

480
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,840
people but for I'm kind of frustrated because I you know I'm Abbot is busing

481
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,920
governor Abbott's busing some of these people to like New York which I think

482
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,560
is kind of funny and Chicago and I hey listen if you're from New York I'm sorry

483
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:45,240
but we've been dealing with this border problem for years and we Texas has been

484
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:49,400
begging for the federal government to do something since Biden has been in office

485
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,840
and he's done zip nada nothing my understanding is that because wasn't it

486
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,560
right before Abbott got reelected he was like we're gonna just enforce our own

487
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:05,120
border or something like that yeah right but before that I seem to remember maybe

488
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,640
you guys can correct me if I'm just imagining this I thought that Texas all

489
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,480
the while was trying to but that Homeland Security would not allow them

490
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,520
to yeah because in the Constitution the borders are federal government

491
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,200
responsibility and so which to me I'm like there should be some like amendment

492
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,920
there that like comma unless you're a border state because how many of the

493
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,120
states in the country are border states? Those are the only borders that would have anything to do with the federal government?

494
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,760
No what about the one you know like the ocean you should they should be able to

495
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,480
defend you know the federal government can defend those parts but like the ones

496
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200
that have that that affects the state there should be a caveat there in my

497
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,680
opinion where they go the state well you know this the state should have more

498
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,880
power to defend their own border in my opinion the way that the Constitution is

499
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,680
written and kind of the way that I think everything is set up is with a certain

500
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:04,520
attitude of conservative for lack of a better word leaning right so the idea

501
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,640
being if you don't have this branch of government and this branch of government

502
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,520
agree on something and thing happens right like it's that is to say that like

503
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:19,320
whatever is the status quo you should kind of like assume and I would say that

504
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,680
if you have a country at all what that means if you are controlling any border

505
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,600
at all then you're deciding who gets to come in who gets to come in who's a

506
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,200
citizen whatever and so between the federal government and a border state

507
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,160
whoever is the most conservative the most restrictive should win right like

508
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,080
that basically like I agree with you I think that if you're a border state and

509
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,240
there's a certain policy that you should have veto power over that if it's

510
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:52,360
towards the more conservative direction or saying like no we're not going to

511
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,520
admit like this many people and when I say that it's more conservative and more

512
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,080
and you might even say more traditional or more status quo is you look at any

513
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,720
other country in the entire world and they have tighter borders than the United

514
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:12,560
States does and like if you want to call that xenophobic then most everybody else

515
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
in the world is more xenophobic than the United States that's true because they

516
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,880
say here's the reasons you can come in and if we don't approve you don't get in

517
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,640
and if even if you do get in you you you're never a citizen I have strong

518
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,520
opinion life I have strong opinions on this because I have a daughter who's an

519
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,800
immigrant from Jamaica daughter-in-law from Jamaica and she had to go the long

520
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,720
way to get she's not even a citizen she's got her permanent residency which

521
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:44,560
took two years to get and these guys I think every immigrant that came here

522
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,440
legally and went through the proper channels probably feels the same way it

523
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,240
is not fair that they these people can just come in and just have all the

524
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:59,760
benefits that they get who had to pay the price wait in line and so this to me

525
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,520
is not an issue of race or being xenophobic of any sort to me this is

526
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:11,280
more of an issue of sovereignty law and order if we have a law then we should

527
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,720
keep the law if there are no borders then having a country has no

528
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:21,080
meaning there is no side that's right yeah because of the way that it affects

529
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,680
our if you want to use the buzzword democracy right even if they don't vote

530
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,720
you know legally or illegally or whatever they're still counted as people

531
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:36,600
who live in a certain area right so then that state gets more delegates and

532
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,440
whichever way that statement if they're not citizens they're still counted

533
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,240
they're still counted on the census yeah so you can just you know keep on pumping

534
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:47,360
more and more people into what let's say California so that seems like Abbott

535
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,600
should not be giving New York more people yeah well so it's funny I think

536
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,600
it's kind of I mean I think it's a political thing but just recently I

537
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,060
heard on another podcast that in Williamsburg New York just pretty liberal

538
00:44:02,060 --> 00:44:06,680
area right so they're like typically the type of people that'd be like oh yeah you

539
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,360
know we believe in open borders and amnesty cities or whatever they started

540
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,120
housing migrants in like one of the school gymnasiums and it was a gymnasium

541
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,800
that had just been built and so everybody was kind of looking forward to

542
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,040
it and now they can't use it and nor can they even go out for like recess and

543
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,120
stuff in this area because there's all these like men mostly men migrant men in

544
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,080
this gym that they are able to come and go because they're not in prison there

545
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,280
house them with our children exactly right so it's so they're trying to keep

546
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,520
them separate so then like what do you do oh you build a wall right you've got

547
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,720
to be kidding I think there's a fence right between this like separate building

548
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:52,920
and the other one those races right and then but and they're pretty upset

549
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,080
they're like we never agreed so they're not upset about the wall no they're

550
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,360
upset about the migrants yeah yeah yeah

551
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,340
in proximity close proximity to the school yeah the kids are all day

552
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:09,720
without their parents that's what's bothering you yeah crazy right I mean

553
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:15,480
it's like don't you trust the process come on trust us well it's the problem

554
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,760
here in Texas it's been a problem for a long time I live close not real close to

555
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,320
the border but fairly close to an interstate where they bring people and

556
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,800
dump them off and there's oh there's been a few stories of them being dumped

557
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,520
and they use the word dumped and then they really are they're like maybe that's

558
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,660
not the right word but like they let him go right here in this town and they've

559
00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:44,320
ruined like farms they've like cut open fences they've broken water lines to get

560
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,880
water I mean the desperation that they have of course they're trying to survive

561
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,440
so they'll do whatever it takes to to survive and so but in the process other

562
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,160
people are being affected and they're upset about it and so it's causing a

563
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,480
problem I just read recently about you talked about New York well there's an

564
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,160
article here about Chicago where they're not happy about it I just while you look

565
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,800
for that you know there's a we have a mutual friend who just has terrible luck

566
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:16,240
with their trucks so they've had cats okay more than one time climb into the

567
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,240
engine and then when and you know they didn't know it and they start the car

568
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:25,240
and then it ruins the engine and ruins the time yeah it's not great for the cat

569
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:30,800
either and then another time they had their truck stolen and apparently their

570
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,640
truck is the most popular truck to be stolen what was it an f-150 yeah I think

571
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,000
so and so oftentimes what will happen and I believe it is you know these

572
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,600
people who have like you know they're in probably a pretty desperate situation

573
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,960
yeah that's right so they're good at stealing this particular truck or maybe

574
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,800
this particular truck is good at doing whatever it is they they tend to do steal

575
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:59,420
or both but one of the things that they do is they steal the truck and then they

576
00:46:59,420 --> 00:47:05,440
know that once they're in pursuit or being pursued I mean by the police that

577
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,120
if they just go off the road and everywhere if you don't live in Texas

578
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,200
everywhere is fenced because it's private property everywhere so they just drive

579
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,000
through fences and then they just ride on people's land you know because

580
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,960
there's a lot of land and then they'll just go until they get like stuck

581
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,080
between two mesquite trees or something and this happened with these friends of

582
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,800
ours truck and so it was stolen and gone and they finally had received a phone

583
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,440
call that had been found and they're like well yeah you can come on down here

584
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,520
and here's your track so they came and it was just mangled with barbed wire

585
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:46,520
smashed all over the paint I mean everything is just completely comically

586
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,480
totaled and not comically because there's a consequence who pays the

587
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,040
responsibility for that who bears it right you know yeah so okay so here are

588
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,360
in this Chicago article it's the headline is as a number of migrants this

589
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,720
this was the end of August so this is a little bit old but as the end of as the

590
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,720
number of migrants in Chicago tops 13,000 which I'm sure it's more by now

591
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:14,320
the city struggles to provide housing continues and we're both we all can

592
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,920
relate a little bit to this but here's what's so interesting I am quote I am

593
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,320
absolutely livid livid unquote Doris Lewis yelled at a tense community

594
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,360
meeting in Hyde Park Wednesday Lewis is one of the many Hyde Park residents who

595
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,520
spoke out against the idea of approximately 300 migrants said to move

596
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,560
into Lakeshore hotels early next week quote I don't know where they come from

597
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,880
said Gail Baker another Hyde Park resident I don't know what the

598
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,440
intentions are I don't know the time frame I don't know if this is temporary

599
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:51,360
if this is long-term so they the residents in Chicago are feeling the

600
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,200
pain of this because I'm sure crime rate is going up I'm sure they are having

601
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,920
the same issue we're having here in Texas as they you know somebody has to

602
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,800
bear the responsibility of having that many people that are not just people but

603
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,680
people having fled their country who probably have massive need you know not

604
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,720
just you know they're relocating they they're needful people they're needy

605
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:18,080
people who need help from the community even if we just went on a trip you know

606
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:23,160
to Oklahoma with like nothing but like a backpack or something we'd be pretty

607
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,480
desperate by the time we got to Oklahoma definitely you know yeah so I mean it's

608
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,400
pretty understandable just like all these arguments come into mind you know

609
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,160
it's like well if they're this needy if they're this the need like isn't it our

610
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,040
responsibility as the United States you know shining city on a hill all these

611
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:46,280
things and I think it's like we need to be real in the sense that you have

612
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:53,040
borders property lines gates fences doors locks you have all of these things

613
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,140
for a reason and it's because you can't have everybody's problem all the time

614
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:03,520
you have to pick and choose and decide right like there are so many atrocities

615
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,560
in the world right every country I mean so many countries in the world they have

616
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,480
atrocities and if we just all of a sudden made all of the problems ours I

617
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,880
mean we would cease to have a country right if we took effectively solve any

618
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,840
of them just that it just doesn't come from a lack of I think it's exactly what

619
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:29,840
you said it's it's about law and order and it's about controlling you know the

620
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:35,040
aid that we give and I mean my personal opinion on it is that I I like

621
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,200
immigration I think it's great but only if it's if we know exactly who we're

622
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,760
getting if it's all legal like I would even be for increasing the legal amount

623
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,260
and then closing the border completely right yeah I mean closing the unsecured

624
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:55,960
border right right 100% close that and then just maybe even doubling the legal

625
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,200
you know immigration or whatever just so people have hope that if they wait a

626
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,440
little while and if they go through the system and if they have background

627
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,640
checks or whatever they can do it and then the people that you really don't

628
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,600
want well it makes it very difficult for them to come by because they're the only

629
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,760
ones trying to get over the board it's because because Democrats and Republicans

630
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,040
use it as a political issue they both use it to try to get elected yeah and

631
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,520
that's why it'll never get done because they're not serious about it they're not

632
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,480
they don't care one thing I want our listeners to know I think the biggest

633
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,060
thing is to make sure that the incentives are set up correctly right so

634
00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:37,680
if you are offering free stuff and not allowing them to work those are bad

635
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,240
incentives plus I mean who are politicians you know to like just say hey

636
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:48,040
I have funds for you well it's like well they're not yours there's people who've

637
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:54,520
been working you know all the time so you know I'm just saying it would just

638
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,480
be much better and it's much better for the recipients of stuff you know too if

639
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,800
instead they are allowed to work people are healthier and happier if they are

640
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,080
more independent totally that's a that's that's a fact right there that's true

641
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,800
all right so our last thing we're gonna talk about before we end so I want to

642
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:19,080
pull something from the next or app like I like I promised the beginning of of

643
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,000
this episode some of these things are funny they're comical if you get on here

644
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,680
there's some that are funny I posted one that was funny a few anyways not me

645
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,960
I wasn't talking about mine I was we'll just have to take your word for it

646
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:39,760
I read one here's one from and by the way if you want to be on our show you

647
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:46,000
know put something on next door up maybe we'll if it's zingy and fun and like you

648
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,920
know cleverly politically incorrect you will maybe we'll talk about it so today

649
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:56,760
we're gonna talk about Janice Torres from Great Oaks who said let people vent

650
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,580
that was her post she says it's important to let people vent we need a

651
00:53:01,580 --> 00:53:05,000
place to share our complaints and concerns venting doesn't solve the

652
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,200
problem necessarily but it helps to blow off steam if people have no place to

653
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,760
vent they may take actions that are harmful to themselves and others stop

654
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,240
flagging people's posts if individuals are upset by certain posts let them

655
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:24,480
block or mute the person yeah I liked what this lady said who commented her

656
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,680
name is Marlene has step from Castroville she said I guess this was

657
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,440
your vent so I have a question for you okay yeah cuz I'm not on that app I

658
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:40,280
mean I'm not against being on it I just don't like hearing about dogs that so

659
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,240
it's it's other users that are flagging it or it's the platform itself that is

660
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:49,560
taking taking down I think the platform has hosts in every area

661
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,120
there's hondo next door app Castroville next door divine and so forth and I

662
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,040
think those hosts take it upon themselves to make it the way that they

663
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,840
feel it should be I think it's both no I think it's people flag it just like they

664
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,560
would on Facebook or Instagram or whatever but I also when I tried to post

665
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,640
I just did this is all I said okay I said amen what's the point of these

666
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,440
stupid apps if not the exchange of ideas there's such is there is such a thing as

667
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,720
scrolling and ignoring that was my I agree with that and so when I posted

668
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:29,280
that the app itself said be kind like you sure you want to say this maybe I'm

669
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,080
sure it is yeah maybe that's why yeah and then I hit send anyway you know but

670
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,760
they're like you sure you want to say this so it's like this weird filter yeah

671
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,640
like double think make you think twice before you post so that's why I don't

672
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,640
know well what do you think about that I mean I think there's a good reason I

673
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,920
mean I can imagine from you know like let's say you own next door right and

674
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,800
you're like well I don't want it to become I don't want it to become an app

675
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,000
where people say oh that's such a cesspool you know what I mean because

676
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,240
that's what they say about Facebook or they should say it's a cesspool for dog

677
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:12,200
law dog ads last dog found dog do you want a dog next dog I mean you know

678
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,920
obviously it's very useful for the dogs I don't want to get too down on that but

679
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:22,280
I don't know I think that they but I could see I could see that I could see a

680
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:28,080
case for that right where you're just like well we we want to make sure that

681
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,640
people get when they get on here they don't feel like a lot of negativity

682
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,600
right and you don't want to be turning people against their neighbors either but

683
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,600
I agree like free free speech should always win out and you know it's like you

684
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,760
could ignore people so well I just don't engage my opinion on it is just what I

685
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,520
said if you don't like it you don't have to react you can keep scrolling right

686
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,400
and that's the thing is a lot of it's not like you have to talk it's weird to

687
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,800
me that it rewards engagement and negative engagement is something that is

688
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,200
rewarded with the all these apps you know yeah just don't engage it's just

689
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,440
funny to me because like if you were having a normal situation where someone

690
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,000
was like talking to someone else and they were saying stuff you didn't like

691
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,040
you'd probably be like you know when they walk away rolling your eyes right

692
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:21,520
for some reason people act like children normal people do people act like children

693
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,640
when they're on social media and do this tattle-tailing thing it's weird like

694
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:32,320
yeah why can't you just walk away like you would if you were in person just not

695
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,960
look at it and you know ignore it I don't understand I have this theory that

696
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,440
it takes like it takes everybody a different amount of time but like maybe

697
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,280
like two or three years of being on these apps to real that realize like

698
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,200
these are people you know this isn't just like a computer screen I think

699
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,880
everybody has to like kind of grow up when it comes to that and maybe people

700
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,400
haven't been on long enough upbringing right exactly yeah see I was on Facebook

701
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,960
since 2006 when it first popped up and really used to be the most it was just

702
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:12,680
like we 13 years old now in your virtual life yeah maybe that's okay no holy

703
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:21,080
oh wait what year we in 2023 like so what am I 18 17 yeah yeah yeah yeah

704
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,560
smoke oh yeah there are moments there really but what's interesting to me

705
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,320
because it was like to me that was the golden age of the internet before like

706
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:36,240
from 2000 to about 2006 you could say the n-word on the internet back then you

707
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,800
could without getting flagged I think you could say anything without getting

708
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,760
flagged back then back then yeah yeah well why I think it's the golden age is

709
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,800
there was no there was no none of this big tech power it was kind of big tech

710
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,880
was on the rise but they hadn't they hadn't monopolized yet and so Facebook

711
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,640
was fun because I don't even think Mark Zuckerberg or whoever was on the board

712
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,760
back then even thought about having to censor they were just like here it is

713
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:08,000
here's this fake book or a Facebook you know whatever it is and then we all just

714
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,440
did what we wanted with it didn't it start out as like you needed a college

715
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:18,680
like a college address before you like in order to yeah thing back in the day

716
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,960
before they had internet face smash they had the Facebook which was like a year

717
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,400
book of sorts but it was like a directory so had your picture kind of a

718
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,480
bio your phone number and so if you needed to you know you know keep in

719
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,000
touch with a friend or something you would get your Harvard Facebook the

720
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:41,920
face never my face it was never my face like my space my face I saw it you were

721
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,120
on it I didn't get on it I was too old seen it I was too old but not too old

722
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,800
for Facebook but anyway and then they see nobody's too old perfect I know my

723
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,120
mother's on there love you mom my dad's on there might be too young for Facebook

724
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:02,400
that's true my kids are they on now primarily then tick-tock or Instagram

725
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:09,680
yeah I think I'm oldy-foldy I don't know my kids tell me that what if we never

726
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:16,480
set our ages and we just had people guess okay see how old how old they think

727
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:25,960
I'm sure that I pretty much yeah so if you have a idea of how old Joe and Emily

728
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,960
are go ahead and post on next door I'm gonna take this first video I'm gonna

729
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,240
post it on next door once we get it edited and I put it up there yeah and

730
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,080
then we'll see what happens with it hopefully people listen we'll see well

731
00:59:36,080 --> 01:00:01,680
that's all I have today Joe Emily

732
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,120
you