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Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa Smith.

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Join us in this space where we take on real issues with real insight and real inspiration.

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This podcast is for those not looking for temporary relief to change circumstance, but

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revelation to forever change lives.

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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100 with Sean and Christa Smith.

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What's good y'all, this is Sean.

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Yeah, we are just always looking forward to our time.

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Keep It 100 tribe.

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And I don't know about y'all, but Christmas went fast, but it was good.

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It was blessing.

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Right?

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We were with family and friends and I hope all of our Keep It 100 tribe, I hope you

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had time with family and friends.

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You just got to rest a bit and just really have time just to grateful to Jesus of course.

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So really that's the whole focus and purpose of that time.

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And we just had a really wonderful time.

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We had a bunch of family at our house and it was just, it was really celebratory.

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We ate food.

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Too much.

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We ate food.

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Too much food.

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We played some games.

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We played Quitlash.

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Oh my gosh.

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Of course on the parental control.

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So yeah, they asked you good questions.

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We laughed.

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We did.

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We laid hands and prayed, believed just, it was, it was just amazing time as it always

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Many of you, if you listen or learn, we got a new puppy.

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So we were kind of first Christmas we have with this puppy remnant.

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We're super excited.

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We got a puppy remnant.

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And so he said, there's a remnant in California.

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And he is perfection.

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I am all about and Sean is all about our pup love him so much.

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And you know, here we are in a new year.

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Coming off Christmas 2024 and we're here.

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We're in and it's just like this year went so fast.

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So as jump into 2024, we're being so intentional and that's why we plan a momentum in January

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our conference because we really want to start year off right.

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We really feel like 2024 is going to be a year of gates, gates being an opportunity to

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step into places you've never been before.

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Gates represent access.

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Gates represent a certain group exclusivity in the Bible.

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The gates where we're in leadership met.

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I just really feel like this is going to be an opportunity for us to possess gates.

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And so January 18th through 20th, many of you that have been listened to people 100

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know, and some of you may not.

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We're having our conference momentum 2024, which we say is not really a conference.

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It's a gathering.

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We're super excited.

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We're going to have phenomenal speakers, including our guests that we're going to be interviewing

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today.

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But in addition to this guy, which we'll introduce in a moment, we're going to have some credible

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people like Ben and Jody Hughes, husband and wife revivalist healing.

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They're from Australia.

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They've seen revival.

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They are amazing equipers and move in signs and wonders.

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In addition to that, we're super excited that we're also going to have Sherman Dumas.

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He's also new to will be new to many of you, but he and his wife, Jackette, they are powerful.

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They've pastored movements in multiple states.

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They are amazing.

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And then our worship is going to be amazing.

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Chris, I do stay.

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We love him.

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He is our momentum worship leader and our momentum worship team is going to be, you know, at our

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moment of conference, of course, and they are powerhouses.

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They have led our master classes.

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They were a part of momentum course last year and they bring the glory.

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Chris is honestly one of my favorite worship leaders.

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We get the privilege of seeing him.

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And then we have Matt Gilman, who's just incredible, just really brings the glory of the Lord.

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And we had such a powerful time with him last year.

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And we had a real corporate encounter that took place during one of his worship sessions

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that really was life changing.

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It was incredible.

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We're so excited for what Chris and for what Matt and team are going to bring.

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Yes, it's going to be amazing.

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So right now you want to go to SeanandChristasmith.com.

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You want to register.

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It's coming up real quick in a couple of half weeks.

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It's going to be profound.

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You want to get in the building.

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It's going to be sunny, beautiful Northern California in the San Francisco, Oakland Bay

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area.

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We've got room for you.

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You want to come be a part of it.

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We're going to be super excited about that.

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We're also working on the streaming, but we want to suggest that you get in the room.

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But those of you that can't, you're in other places.

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If you check our website real soon, we're going to have the streaming option up.

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And this is pretty exciting because we feel like there is this event, this gathering,

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this flashpoint is going to be literally so chock-all of the glory and pregnant significance

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that we even have a great friend that had a prophetic dream.

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Why don't you explain that, Chris?

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One of our dear friends, Tiffany Lee, we really love her prophetic gift.

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Love her ability to hear God's voice.

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She is a dreamer and she had a dream concerning momentum and she shared it with us.

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We felt it was really profound and powerful and we actually asked her to record it so

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we could share it.

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So, keep it wanted to try and listen up, listen to this profound dream from Tiffany Lane.

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On November 29th, I had a dream about the upcoming momentum gathering.

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In the dream, I saw tongues of fire passing by homes and entering bedrooms as people slept.

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I saw the fire form into a crown of fire over both heads.

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It rested over them as they slept.

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Their spirits were being called to attention.

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I saw these people waking in their beds.

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It was as if their spirit was calling their mind to attention.

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As I watched this take place, I heard there are some people who have no plans to attend

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the moment of gathering.

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But they will attend.

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People's spirits are going to be called into purpose and the dream God has for their lives

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is going to be awakened at this gathering.

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There is a marking that's going to take place.

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They need to be in the room.

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In the dream, I started praying for people to wake up and get up in Jesus' name.

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Then I saw people rising out of their beds and entering the conference.

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And when they got into the room, I saw scrolls being laid out in front of them.

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The scrolls were different for each individual.

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The scrolls represented God as signs.

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People were being given direction for their lives at this gathering that will mark them.

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I could physically see the confusion of identity and purpose being broken off of people.

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After this, I woke up.

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Wow, that dream was amazing.

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So good.

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This is just, I just believe it's the heart of God in terms of him declaring his intent

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on what he wants to do.

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I just feel like there are a lot of people out there that have come off the holidays

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feeling maybe a bit overwhelmed, busy, maybe a little stale in their walk, maybe a little

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lethargic, maybe even something feel spiritually numb.

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This is going to be the place.

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And then there are others.

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You're just so hungry.

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You want the more.

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I feel like this event, this flashpoint will be the place for you.

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And 2024, I think it's just going to be such a significant year.

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I know there's so many people that want us to be there.

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If places will get worse, wars will be worse and all these kinds of things.

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And first of all, we know this, that revivals have always run concurrent to crisis.

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There's always been a crisis, but then there's revival where God visits his people.

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And so I really believe this is going to be a visitation.

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And so we want you to get out and be a part of it.

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You know, it's so true.

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You know, Tiffany said something of many things that she said that were incredible.

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I just want to simply highlight this.

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You know, she was saying, you know, some people weren't planning on coming, but then they

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were called by God and they showed up.

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And I just want to tell you, if you're one of those people that are like, I don't have

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the time, I don't have the availability, you know, usually I'm not into conferences.

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Well, good.

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Well, this is going to be great news for you.

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This is not a conference.

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This is an encounter.

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And I want to encourage you cannot make a more priceless investment than your walk with

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Jesus.

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And we don't say that with manipulation.

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We say that with expectation.

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That God isn't going to encounter us.

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God is in the room.

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What he did last year was profoundly marking in our lives.

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And we know there's more that's available this year.

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So we want to encourage you now, January 18th to the 20th, mark your calendars, get your

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seat, get in the room, make a way to the Bay Area, live in the Bay Area, get in the room,

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take the time off work because God is going to meet you and really prioritize that schedule.

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Momentum 2024 where we've never been.

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That's right.

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Speaking of that, we've got a great friend of ours who will also be a speaker.

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He is the only returning speaker.

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And so we're super excited to have our great friend, Tommy Orion.

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Oh, we love Tommy.

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I mean, he is, he is truly an internationally recognizable prophet and apostle authored multiple

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books.

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He is an apostle that is leading the mid rig nation all around the world.

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He's a trusted prophetic voice.

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He's a prophet, as I said, and we really love him because he's not only an incredible man

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of God, he's an incredible friend.

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He has truly what you see in the platform as we is, he's probably one of the most generous

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bull Sean and I have ever encountered and he loves God extravagantly, but he also loves

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his friends and family and he loves the bride of Christ extravagantly.

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We trust him.

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We love his voice.

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And so keep it 100 tribe.

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Get ready for this powerful interview with Tom.

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Keep it 100 tribe.

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We've got the apostle in the room.

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My little brother, I say my little brother only because of chronologically I'm older

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than him, but this guy carries a big shadow man.

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And so we're so glad to have you on.

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Call me a rhyming.

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What's going on man?

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Hey, big bro.

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I'm doing well.

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How are you?

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Hey, I'm doing all right.

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Hey, how about you?

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Tamar and the kids man.

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How you guys doing?

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Doing good.

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I just got back from Hungary.

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So I'm seeing everyone kind of for the first time right now.

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But I'm doing really, really well.

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Everyone's doing great.

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Bro, that's good.

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Man, we're so honored that you would jump on the podcast coming back from Hungary.

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And man, we are hungry for the revelation that you walk in.

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Hey, I just want to jump in it right here.

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And one of the things that I've noticed and we just kind of were talking about it before

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we jumped on is that this is such a time of transition is transition in the body of Christ

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is transition in terms of individual nations, you know, in terms of economies in terms of

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world powers in terms of influence of people, transitions.

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Obviously, we're going to be coming up in a crazy election times here in the United States,

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transition wars, all this kind of stuff.

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We can talk about a little bit of that on a larger scale later.

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But I just want to ask you, bro.

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You have transitioned, it's been a minute, but you have transitioned into Houston, Texas,

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in the United States of America, into a home, moving your family.

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You've had ministry out here, but now you're based.

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Tell us about that.

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What is transition meant for Tommy O'Reime and your family, bro?

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Well, transition has been, for us, it's been amazingly abrupt, actually, because there's

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seasons of forced change.

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And we're definitely in a season of forced change that moved us into the U.S.

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There wasn't unwilling forced change, but it was certainly forced change.

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And we had the privilege of serving the Lord in Syria in Africa for one whole year.

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We were intending on being there a lot longer, but the Lord had his plan.

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And ultimately, we ended up relocating to Houston.

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And that transition transpired after a series of quite dramatic events, one of which being

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subsequently arrested in Nigeria for a prophecy that we had given that the government, the

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federal government, didn't like.

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And so that forced our season of change here to Houston.

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But within the first weekend of being in Houston, we planted the Regalobal Church officially.

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It was kind of unofficially planted, but now officially planted and God has blessed us

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tremendously, averaging around 700, 600, 700 members.

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And it's been about eight months a year now coming on.

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And he has been, I've been watching online and catching some of your service and some

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of the broadcasts and some of the clips.

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Man, it looks like it is wild there at Reg Houston, man.

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What has God been doing in the services?

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What have you been seeing, man?

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Well, so much.

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We've seen blind eyes open.

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We've seen miracles.

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We've done maybe six, seven conferences of last count for the year.

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I know you and Chris are at one of them, but we just seen God transform an entire week

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and just witnessing how many people from all over America, I mean, talk about transition.

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I can't tell you how many families have transitioned from all over the United States to relocate

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to Houston because of the church.

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And so God is just doing amazing thing, gathering an army together.

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And it's just, we literally felt like spoilt.

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I tell you, just watching God do.

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I love that, man.

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You know, Chris and I, we were talking about you and, you know, we've just seen just the

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amazing favor, just your voice, you know, just the things that you're putting your hands

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to how people have been drawn.

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One of the things we just kind of talked about and I love this is that we said, hey, you

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know what, Tommy draws lines.

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We're in such a day where people are either erasing the line, progressive Christianity,

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you know, dancing around truths, not really letting the word be the word, not letting

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the sword cut.

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The sword is a salve or I should say the Bible is a salve, but the Bible is a sword.

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And some people are using the salve when we need to have both the sword and the salve.

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And you draw lines.

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And I love that.

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And I feel like people, people want that, man.

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We want people that are going to draw lines, man.

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And the nebulous, you know, you, you, you look here and you take their eraser and you

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kind of had, you had a clear line, but you erase it.

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It's all, that's how a lot of people's message right now.

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And I've kind of felt like if you're out there and you're in a pulpit or you have a voice,

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now is not the time.

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Jesus didn't get up out of the tube for us to be inconspicuous.

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Right?

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I mean, your, your faith is marked by something like that, man.

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Hey, let me ask you a series of questions I think our listeners are going to love.

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Tell me, what do you feel is the most crucial asset or attribute that we need to have in

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this hour, either as individuals or as the church?

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I believe there's many things and coming back from Hungary, the Holy Spirit, I spent almost

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three quarters of my flight just praying and pressing into the Lord for what you were saying

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for 2024.

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And there's, there's so many things you can put your finger on.

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But right now, if I could speak and jump ahead of the gun to what you're doing with momentum,

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which I think is so crucial is, you know, time is measured in hours, but momentum is

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measured in moments.

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And what often happens is we're waiting to reach the divine place instead of catch the

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moment that help us reach the divine place.

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You know, every single season of our life is measured spiritually in the moments that

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happen to us.

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We can talk about Joseph's four moments.

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You know, I believe every believer should have at least four transitions.

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You have more than four.

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You're probably having maybe too many.

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But you see, most believers had four major transitions, a few micro transitions in that

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before major ones.

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And each moment was significant to momentum.

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And so the most significant word of the hour that the Lord's been releasing to me is the

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word demand.

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You've got to become key at measuring the moments of demand that meet us in every day,

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because those are moments that lead to momentum.

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What I mean by that is when God gives us a dream, we start off when everybody asks us

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what happened.

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You said, I had a dream.

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He said, what's your dream?

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And then they always say, in my dream.

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And we make the mistake of thinking it's our dream, not realizing that God's inviting

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us his dream.

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And that's why the box says they'll dream dreams and see vision.

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The dream we're dreaming is God's dream in our small brain.

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And so we were the ones calling it my when God's like, Hey, this is my dream.

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I'm just giving you an impartation and or an invitation into my end picture, my end

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design.

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The Bible says the vision speaks to the end.

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Every time you read scripture, vision speaks to the end, right?

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The vision make claims to the end, thoughts and plans to have towards you give you an

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expected end, but your beginning be small, your end will greatly increase.

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So God gives you spoiler alert in the forms of dreams of vision.

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He reveals the end from the beginning.

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That's his blueprint.

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Now, as people, we become so obsessed about the end that all our focus on it is the dream.

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And if you're so dream centered, you actually miss demands in the focus of the dream.

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And so when God was trying to deliver Joseph from a certain level of narcissism, God had

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to take him through several places of demand.

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You know, meet this person and now let me put you in a prison, this man.

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And if you're not careful, your treat demands like what you call it detours.

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God, why are we here?

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What's what's going on?

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The dream is over there.

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Take me to Pharaoh's house.

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And no matter how much Joseph tried, he couldn't manipulate every moment of his life.

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He couldn't manipulate them to change.

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He handed out business cards, said, remember me, remember what I did for you.

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And no matter what he did, he couldn't manipulate his seeds to change.

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And so in momentum, what helps us get momentum is the moments.

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Each moment is like a, it's like a pushing block.

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When you're swimming, you think about the pushing blocks, like a pushing block to the

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next moment that's going to take you to the moment that matters.

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He's calculating.

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He's doing all of these voluntary things.

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He's prophesied he's going to be king, but he's slaying bears, he's slaying lions.

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Nobody's paying him for any of it, not earning an income.

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And if he's not careful, he can treat a demand like a detour.

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And you're like, God, why am I, why am I slaying this?

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What's this got to do with what you showed me?

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The day it mattered was the day he met Goliath.

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He had become so demand focused by this time that he said, the God who delivered me from

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the bear, delivered from the lion was, who delivered me from some sort of exercise for

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us.

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But he said, what would happen to the man who does it?

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And in that, he found the positioning at least, because Prince is positioning for kingship.

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And so in moments, God releases momentum.

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And that momentum, we find ourselves, if we stay in that place of being demand focused,

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we find ourselves catholic into our dream, whether we like it or not, because we're actually

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seeing demands and not detours anymore.

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Man, don't be, bro, that is so profound.

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You know, you're talking about demands.

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And I think you're right.

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I think many times we run from the demands in our lives.

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We kind of feel like they're interruptions.

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We feel like, oh, I'm not ready for this.

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Man, I'm not going to be able to rise to the moment, so to speak.

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And I think, you know, the Holy Spirit is not just a New Testament person.

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I mean, he's eternal.

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And so we think of the Holy Spirit coming on you, you speak in tongues.

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The Holy Spirit coming upon you and, you know, you prophesy, the Holy Spirit comes upon you,

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you feel goosebumps, you fall out.

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But you know, if you really want to do one of those, the law of the first mention, I

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mean, there are many instances, obviously you can go back to Genesis, but Samuel said

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to King Saul of Kish, he says, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and you will do as the

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occasion demands.

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And I think sometimes we forget that those moments come to make a demand, but the Holy

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Spirit was put upon us for those very moments.

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And I think that's just so, so profound because at the same time, I can see the device of

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the enemy is trying to get us overwhelmed.

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So when our moments come, we don't feel like we can rise to the occasion.

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We're like the souffle in the oven door, slam two hardy caves in, never to rise again.

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But God isn't making a souffle, he's the soldier's man.

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I love that thing.

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Oh my goodness, man.

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So in that, being able to do as the occasion demands, be able to rise to our demands, recognizing

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the transitions and all that kind of stuff.

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What would you say, you know, to your rank and follow us, rank and follow believer out

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there and you're going, okay, also told me, I'm going to see these moments, they're going

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to make demands.

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What, how do I need to posture myself so I could be in position that I could be obedient

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and successful in those moments when the demands come?

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Well, first of all, I'd say, and this may sound cliche, get to momentum comfort.

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That's my first thing I would say.

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Because we don't realize that we are stuck because of an information depth.

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There's something we don't know.

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And then there's something we're not willing to pay the price of access.

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I remember years ago when people used to say to me, if only, if only a possible view to

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the US, if you move to the US, I come to every meeting.

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Then I'm going to Houston.

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Well, if only it could come to New York, I would, I would really want to come if you

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come to New York and you don't realize that actually everything you need from God is over

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there and over there is not where you are.

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God said, get out of your father's house and go over there.

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God said, so Elijah, hey, go over there.

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Ravens are going to feed you over there.

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Now had Elijah stayed where he was, I promise you, God and his faithfulness would have kept

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the Ravens feeding bread and Bob would have walked under there and wondered how he stumbled

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into divine favor officer.

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So information and blessing is always geographical.

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It's never at your convenience.

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It's always something God will test you to see if you're willing to get the next upgrade

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to appear before him in a specific place.

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He says, meet me at Shiloh, meet me at Penile, meet me at Bethel, meet me at, so there are

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always these key meeting points.

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And I think sometimes people are disappointed because they miss appointments.

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And if you miss the appointment, you'll always be disappointed because you won't recognize

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the appointment when it comes because appointments come with information.

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They come with times.

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They come with dates.

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They come with sequence.

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Next thing I'll say is, a lot of people are so afraid of being distracted that their

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thought about being distracted is the biggest distraction in their life.

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That's always overthinking the will of God.

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I just want to be in God's perfect will.

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I just want to make sure.

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I'm not in his will, and they spend 20 years of their lives analyzing whether they're

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in God's will.

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They never actually make it.

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And so one of the things that what you just said about King Saul do is the occasion demands.

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Some translations say, do whatever the occasion.

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So some say, what should I do?

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I would say, do whatever.

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As long as you're anointed, the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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Like you've got to do, there's something called the whatever anointing.

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It's the anointing that comes upon whatever you do to make it prosper because you actually

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need one level of prosperity to bless you in another season of prosperity.

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And if you miss a season to jump over into another season, you'll miss what a specific

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season was taught there to teach you.

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For instance, you know, there's a certain degree to which you can edit videos because

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you went through a season where you didn't have money taken and edit or resources.

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So you started learning those things by yourself or the Holy Spirit taught you supernatural.

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As a level to which the Holy Spirit told you, get this camera, get this sound, get this

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going on, get that going on.

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And so now when you hire somebody, it's more about freeing up your time than freeing up

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your skill sets because you have those skills.

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So the day they say, I can't come to work today, you are not left out of hand because

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you developed the muscles in a season that you thought was a diversion.

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And all God called it was a moment to get information necessary for your next season.

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And so every season is important.

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There's no such thing as a wasted season in God as long as the anointing is there because

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you're going to need something vital.

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Joseph needed the prison because of the seven years of lack.

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He needed Potiphar's house because of the seven years of abundance.

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So when it came time for what to do, he had learned how to be resourceful in the prison.

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He had learned how to live lavishly in Potiphar's house.

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So those two polarizing experiences taught him exactly what he needed to tell Pharaoh

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to do in that place.

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How do you skip over the prison season?

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He would not have known what to do in the years of lack.

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Man, you know, that is just so, so profound.

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I was hearing this one of rookies on the Golden State Warriors and he said his favorite

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player, Steph Curry.

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Now he's playing with Steph Curry.

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He's this rookie out here in Golden State.

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And he was saying, you know, he says, I expect Steph to make every single shot.

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And he says, because when I'm, when I'm doing the interview right now, this guy's in the

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gym practicing.

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And I just think that so many people, cause I look at you, Tony, and the confidence and

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the authority you walk in that you're meeting them demands and you, you, you, you really

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can do the work.

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You have the oxen anointing, bro.

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I mean, you're, you're doing the work of like four or five different people and you're

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doing it all well.

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But I think part of it is that you, you nailed it.

474
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,840
You, you, on the come up, you, you had to acquire that skill set.

475
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720
You had to acquire that information.

476
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,360
You were practicing, you were harnessing your gifts when it wasn't a, you know, a platform

477
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:02,520
of tens of thousands of people and, and you know, crazy number of hundreds of thousands

478
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,760
of followers on YouTube.

479
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,600
You were doing, you were putting in work as the kids love to say today.

480
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,880
And I think that's just so important because I think we, we recognize, I recognize, you

481
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,960
recognize, we operate from the finished victory of the cross.

482
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,200
But our problem is we want victory without getting in the fight, right?

483
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720
And that's that, that is the divine paradox.

484
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,680
We do fight from victory, but the key is we, we have to fight.

485
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,840
You have to put in work.

486
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640
You have to be disciplined and do those things.

487
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,640
Hey man.

488
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,960
I thought a YouTube channel later on, I want you to tell us your YouTube channel, but how

489
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,840
important right now is the media mountain and controlling the narrative?

490
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,320
How important is it for the church to begin to make sure her voice, obviously there are

491
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,240
things, the Bible is very clear that nature is voice activated.

492
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,200
It's waiting upon the arising of the sons and daughters of the Messiah God.

493
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,200
There's a groaning and, and the, everything we see around us is based on Jesus speaking.

494
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,440
How important is it for us to capture and rise in the mountain of media and to control

495
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,560
the narrative right now?

496
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,800
I think it's, it's absolutely one of the most crucial things that the body of Christ

497
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,800
can do right.

498
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,360
A lot of us are actually waiting for God to platform us.

499
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,920
A lot of people in the body called me and say, Oh, that's okay for you.

500
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,080
You have a platform.

501
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,600
And I always say this.

502
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840
First of all, revelation is a platform.

503
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,480
It's not, it's not, you know, Facebook, not Twitter, it's not Instagram.

504
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,160
The fact that God is speaking and putting his big words in your mouth, that's platform,

505
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,400
you know, that's, that's in trustment.

506
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,400
That's something huge.

507
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,800
We're talking about men like John the Baptist who didn't set up his ministry in a city center

508
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,680
somewhere in a, in a big major town.

509
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,280
He went to a desert and all he had was a voice of revelation and that revelation galvanized

510
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,160
a large ground swallowing people towards that.

511
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,600
So when you have the word of the Lord or the sound of distinction, that's the platform

512
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,600
in itself.

513
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,320
And the second thing is this, God actually gives us the stewardship over several things

514
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,320
in the Bible.

515
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,440
I always tell this to let my sons and daughters in the ministry.

516
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,160
I say, you know, if your heart was broken, that's on you because God doesn't guard your

517
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,160
heart.

518
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,160
He gives that responsibility to you.

519
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,160
He says, you guard your heart.

520
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,640
I'll, I'll guard your spirit.

521
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,640
I'll guard your salvation.

522
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,920
I'll even guard your finance.

523
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960
But your heart is your responsible to it.

524
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Don't go around giving it to everybody and then crying about how it got broken.

525
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,640
And so, so that the second thing God tells us to, to take stewardship over is our light.

526
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,880
He says, you know, I'm responsible for the light.

527
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,880
You're responsible for how it's platform.

528
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,880
So he says, let your light so shine in such a way that men see it.

529
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,800
So he's actually telling us to be deliberate.

530
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320
And some of you say, well, what's the difference between that and showing off?

531
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Well, he says show light.

532
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,320
He didn't say show off.

533
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,120
He didn't say go out and show off.

534
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:45,040
He said, let the light that's in you, which comes from God so shine.

535
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,480
So that means you're responsible for the platforming of the light that's on the inside.

536
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,880
Now, you know, if there's something wrong with it and it didn't get out to as many people

537
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,200
as you wanted it to, then you might need to question sometimes whether or not it's light

538
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,280
or whether you think it's light and it's darkness because light shines.

539
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,920
That's the, like the, the manifestation of light is it can't be hidden.

540
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,200
That's the great news about it.

541
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,560
So you're really not having to do much work, but on some level, the work you have to do

542
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,240
is not resist the tech, resist the urge to mistake hiding from as humility.

543
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,640
So he says, don't put your light under a bushel.

544
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,640
That's hiding.

545
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,280
He says you've got to platform the light in a way that people can actually see it.

546
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080
It needs to have some level of visibility.

547
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,880
As God told Habaker, right division may claim or some turn, which they publish the vision.

548
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,880
So media and publication are important to the extent of just getting a message on another

549
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,880
reason.

550
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,680
It's important because the one who has the narrative has the nation.

551
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,520
Somebody asked who's winning in America right now.

552
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,800
I said whoever has the right narrative, who's going to win in America's election, whoever

553
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,680
has the loudest narrative, the narrative is what matters.

554
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Children of Israel won 40 years in the desert, not because God wanted them to, but because

555
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,720
of the narrative.

556
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,240
A couple of people came spread a report, put out a piece for us to say, Giants are here.

557
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,240
They're bigger than us.

558
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,240
They're bad than us.

559
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Everything terrible.

560
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Fruit's great, but the problem is there's giants.

561
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,200
There's big giant tech, giant media, giant farmer.

562
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,200
Everything's bigger than us.

563
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,200
We're never going to win.

564
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,400
Oh, always small church, which is going to be poor and broken.

565
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,680
And God's like, you're defeated the moment you opened your mouth.

566
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,280
And because of it, you're going to want 40 years because of bad media.

567
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,280
Were the giants there?

568
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,280
Yes.

569
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Were they bigger than them?

570
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Yes.

571
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,640
God actually said, I'm going to give you people bigger of my kids.

572
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,680
So they weren't telling facts, but they weren't telling truth.

573
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,960
And so media should be for the Christian, the place to speak truth, not fact.

574
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Look at America over the past few years.

575
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,960
We've almost gone 40 years back because not because America is a bad country.

576
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Is it good or is it bad?

577
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,960
Who knows?

578
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Who owns the narrative?

579
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,600
Those who own the narrative are telling us over and over again, every single day, America

580
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,600
is a bad country.

581
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,680
And the moment you release those words out of your mouth, God is obligated to set nations

582
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,520
back because of narrative.

583
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000
And so I'm not saying these things are not fact.

584
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,200
I'm not saying racism isn't a fact.

585
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,400
I'm not saying LGBT isn't a fact.

586
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,680
I'm not saying there aren't big giants, big tech, big farmer.

587
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Those things aren't disputed by God.

588
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960
You see lies is anything God didn't say.

589
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,360
First chapter 20, excuse me, says this says you shall not spread.

590
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,240
I think it's Exodus 20 or Exodus 21.

591
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,240
What are those two?

592
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,320
You shall not spread a fake report.

593
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,520
That means the fake news did not come as a byproduct to Donald Trump.

594
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,960
It was there in the Bible because God knew fake news was spiritual.

595
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,400
So it's adult spread, fake news.

596
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,480
And today we spread fake news like COVID.

597
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,120
I mean, it's just going everywhere.

598
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,080
And so we have to become better stewards of truth.

599
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,360
We have to be better stewards of what God said, not what's on ground.

600
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,160
But what did God say?

601
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760
Because whoever owns the narrative owns the nation.

602
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Man, man, I felt like I heard this thing, Tommy.

603
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,320
And when you said revelation is the platform, I'm still buzzing over that.

604
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320
That is, bro, that's a master class.

605
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,520
That is ridiculous, little bro.

606
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,440
I was thinking about right now, I feel like we have the Makaya mandate.

607
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,040
You know, obviously when King Ahab was about to go out to war, he had like, I think 400

608
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,480
prophets that were basically an echo chamber.

609
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480
And they were just telling the king what he wanted to hear.

610
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,840
All king, go out and fight.

611
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,040
You're the man, dude, you can't lose.

612
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,080
You're going to defeat him.

613
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
And then, you know, I think Joseph, that was part of that configuration.

614
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,160
He shouldn't have been doing anything with Ahab, but he said, is there is there not

615
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,080
a real prophet?

616
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,280
And they pull Makaya out.

617
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,040
And if you read the passage, he's being advised what the, at that point, what is

618
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760
the popular narrative like, A, the king has been told that if he goes out and

619
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520
fights his wicked King Ahab, everybody knows.

620
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,360
And essentially you need to say the same thing.

621
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,800
And they're pulling Makaya out of prison.

622
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,600
And so he's kind of sarcastic at first.

623
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,760
And then the king recognizes sarcasm.

624
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,400
He's telling the truth.

625
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,680
He said, Hey, you're going to go out there.

626
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,600
You're going to die.

627
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,280
And then he says, man, you know what?

628
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,480
I'm going to, I'm going to come back.

629
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,000
I'm going to get you.

630
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320
And he said, wait, wait, wait, if you come back, I'm a false prophet.

631
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Like essentially, yeah, I should die.

632
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,760
And in that moment, his voice cut through the echo chamber.

633
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,960
And I think sometimes we think that there's so many people that are repeating,

634
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,600
you know, I always say, you know, to some spiritual sons and daughters is it so

635
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,400
much of what we call thinking is nothing more than recycling someone else's

636
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760
opinion. And we call that like serious thinking.

637
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,880
No, no, no, you heard that.

638
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,120
No, no, no, you Google that.

639
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,600
You chat GPT that you heard your favorite tweet and you're going to put that out

640
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680
and call that like sophisticated thinking here.

641
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,120
He's being told what to say, but he cuts through the narrative.

642
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,280
So I love what you're saying that you don't have to be in the majority to

643
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,600
carry the narrative because truth obviously are playing on words.

644
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,360
What Trump fax?

645
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Obviously no reference to Donald Trump, but truth will Trump fax every time

646
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200
what God just needs some truth speakers.

647
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Yes, absolutely.

648
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,440
And I think the conundrum of our generation is the like factor.

649
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,080
You know, you're talking about social media where you are liked or you are not

650
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,800
liked and the unlikes speak louder than the likes.

651
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960
You know, it's the fact that nobody likes it.

652
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Like, oh, I mean, 300 people liked it or 500.

653
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,800
So the metric for success is set already by people to like.

654
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,400
And so everybody wants to feed that algorithm with what is liked over what is

655
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,880
right. And so what do we do when we have that generation who the platforms

656
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,160
have already been preset for them and the defaults of what you want for

657
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,440
that generation has already been preset for them.

658
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,320
You have to become really clever about and really creative about how you

659
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,040
display truth is one of the things I love about Jesus.

660
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,200
I think, you know, you can either be a Makaya generation or just a mean

661
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,520
generation. I love the Makaya spirit because he's able to speak the truth.

662
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,920
And we have a generation of leaders that do want to drop the line.

663
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,200
And I, one of them that wants to drop the line as you rightly said,

664
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,600
I want to speak the truth.

665
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,440
I want to live the truth more than I want to speak it.

666
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200
But I want the truth to be the truth.

667
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,040
But I love this about the Lord.

668
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:59,760
You know, he was able to cut people with such a level of ninja like finesse

669
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,880
that you would not know you were cut until you got home.

670
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,560
And it was like you were bleeding out like Pharisees going,

671
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,360
he talking about us when he said that.

672
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,000
You know, I think we have to get more creative today because anything we say

673
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,480
is hate speech. And when you hear it objectively, it does sound a bit

674
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,240
hateful because we've lost, you know, you spoke about the word being a sword

675
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,840
and a self. We've lost the skilled users of the sword.

676
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Those who can wield it with enough in that.

677
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,280
But at the end of it, there's a whole truth and not just a lambasting

678
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,120
of somebody's lifestyle because I do believe a generation is going to change.

679
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,480
There's going to be transformed by a leadership anointing that can actually

680
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200
cut without that person being known.

681
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,040
They've been cut a third of like, wow, just got cut really well.

682
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,000
Man, you know, I'm probably doing a little TMI out there.

683
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,240
I just had like a little it's a little tiny, I think it's called like poma

684
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,840
removed out of my neck. You know, when I went into Kaiser, the surgeon,

685
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,800
you know, she she was describing a I'm kind of coming close to an artery.

686
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560
I'm kind of coming close to a nerve.

687
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,760
But, you know, you you run this risk.

688
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
But trust me. And I asked you, I say, you've done this before, right?

689
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360
They go, yeah, I've done this before.

690
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,880
And I said, hey, do it. And obviously, it was in and out surgery.

691
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,520
It was they just stopped needles and dead in it.

692
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,600
And I think of, you know, the same sword that cut off Malchus ear is the same

693
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,880
sword that could have lanced a stab wound or maybe in modern technology,

694
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,120
remove a cancer. And I find it for like in our zealousness,

695
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960
we've cut off the ear of people to hear us.

696
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,720
And the problem is if you cut off their ear and at the same time,

697
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,960
you want them to respond to your voice, you're going to have a problem.

698
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,640
And it's funny, Jesus did the thing that I think is the the ministry

699
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,720
that we need to do in the mountain of media.

700
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,360
And the narrative is he picked up the dude's ear and put his ear back on.

701
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,960
And I feel like our strategy has got to be how do we put the ear back on

702
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,880
the nations of the world? How do you, you know, we're in the context right now.

703
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Let's say the Western world, you know, because so much of the Eastern world

704
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,120
experience and revival in the Western world, you're skeptical,

705
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,440
you're hardened, you're deconstructed, you've got all these things,

706
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,640
progressive Christianity.

707
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,400
And but how do we get their ear back on?

708
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,320
And here's the other thing.

709
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,640
And I was talking about this with a group of some prophetic people at a gathering

710
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960
that I knew it was going to hit this group a little bit different.

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,800
And I said, you know, in the area of politics, I said, you've so villainized people.

712
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,880
But what you have to understand is that you've demonized them

713
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,680
when in fact they're captives of a demon that we need to rescue them.

714
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,680
Their faces on the milk carton.

715
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
You're going after the person you're supposed to rescue.

716
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,680
And I go, why would they want to listen to you afterwards?

717
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Or the way you've, you know, you.

718
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,280
And so, man, what you're saying, I think, oh my God, I could, I could jump up and down

719
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,080
and scream that I feel like we do need to be ninjas.

720
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:54,600
I feel like that verse that says, you know, that we would have the tongue of the learned

721
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,280
that we should know how to speak.

722
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000
It's not just having the ability to speak.

723
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040
It's not even necessarily behind it.

724
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Or at the end of the day, the bottom line, it's, it's how you should speak the truth.

725
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,960
And that's obviously you're talking about Issaqar anointing.

726
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,960
I mean, that's really the mainstay of you, your Issaqar prophet, your people that you're

727
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,960
raising up.

728
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,680
And that was the thing that I love, even, you know, after we first met, I can't even

729
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,880
tell you how many years ago, but you would come on YouTube, you and Toby and man, you'd

730
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,160
have them YouTube and you would hit these issues that I thought, my goodness, man, you're

731
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,520
going to mix it folks angry.

732
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,040
But then I would listen to it.

733
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,280
And again, it doesn't matter whether you make people angry or not, that's not to be all

734
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,320
in all, but I just thought, let me listen.

735
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,360
But there was such prophetic precision in which you spoke that I think a lot of people

736
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,240
today are thinking and again, I know, I kind of know what I'm talking about with this.

737
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,120
I think a lot of people are in the John the Baptist, you know, prophet style, which,

738
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,240
hey, I believe the spirit of Elijah on John the Baptist was what made, you know, everything

739
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:05,120
significant, you know, and since you could have got the same dude or not saying, do another

740
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,960
dude out there doing the same thing, but without that spirit that would turn rebellious hearts

741
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,320
to a, you know, merciful God, turn the hearts of fathers to children.

742
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,400
I think people miss that and they just harp on the brutal vipers, all this stuff.

743
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,320
And first of all, you speak in the Pharisees and hardened religious folks, but I think

744
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,720
they miss the fact this dude was water baptized and quite a few folks that had to been something

745
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:34,040
in his message that just wasn't slicing dice and Jinsu knife.

746
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,280
You know, we want to be a ninja knife, but not a Jinsu knife.

747
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Oh, I love what you're saying, man.

748
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,200
Anything more on that on just the narrative in that media mountain?

749
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Yeah, I think going back to the, the, the like machine, I think the other side of that

750
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,720
spectrum that I think a lot of those kind of more hard line preachers are going down

751
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,960
the line of is they don't want to compromise and become so greasy grace that they lose

752
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,800
the potency of the scripture.

753
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,200
This is, this is thing that happens when, when the metric becomes being like you pick

754
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,920
up on a Saul spirit.

755
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,760
Saul was the kind of person that was told that God judged him.

756
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,480
And at the end of that, you would think he would fall on his face and cry, but he said,

757
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,480
I get it, but don't let the people think that like honor me in front of these people, just

758
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,080
come out with me and let's have a selfie together.

759
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160
So everybody thinks they're still doing okay.

760
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,560
And I'm still serving the Lord.

761
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,240
One day the Lord warned me of people who preachers who have left him and they're still holding

762
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:37,400
on pulpits, you know, left the Lord, but still, still holding onto the pulpit liked by everybody,

763
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,280
loved every post they make, every comment they put out is alike, but they've left the

764
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Lord and that kind of is like a Saul, you know, you reach that place where being light

765
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160
is more important than making heaven.

766
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,560
And I think unfortunately, sadly, I've seen a lot of creatures seduced by that machine

767
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,920
and they fall prey to the selfie moment, the big picture moment.

768
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,960
I get that next to the creature, I get beyond this flyer, I get to be with the Houshia of

769
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,840
the Kingdom Zoo and like, yes, but are you, are you making heaven?

770
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,480
You know, you made it to the conference, but we only make it heaven by living pure, living

771
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,320
the truth, living what God said.

772
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,040
And so I put out posts all the time and I realized, wow, my light count goes down when

773
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,040
I tell the truth.

774
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,040
It does.

775
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,280
It's like, wow, if I post something fluffy and nice and all Pinteresty, everybody's liking

776
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
it, but if I post about holiness and purity, nobody's liking it.

777
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,120
So I asked my editor.

778
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,880
So if you look at all my videos now, I'm like, hey, can we put like the good news at the

779
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640
beginning and then start again with the bad news?

780
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,160
So you see this big highlight at the beginning, everybody wants to watch and then it forces

781
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160
them to have to watch the whole message.

782
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,440
So that's what I mean by, I think we can still be wise as servants with the systems of the

783
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,240
world that only celebrate you for towing the common orthodox.

784
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:58,560
And that's really where the danger of the seductive spirit of the world with diversity

785
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,760
has entered into the church.

786
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,680
We say, well, we want more women, we want more men, we want more men because we want diversity

787
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,680
of thought.

788
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,680
And then at the end of it, look at it and it's not diversity of thought, it's conformity

789
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,680
of thought.

790
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,240
And everybody's all thinking the same with the church.

791
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:19,600
We've kind of tried to toe that line with our own religious affinity of diversity only

792
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,320
to end up with conformity.

793
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,920
And so what do we do then?

794
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,360
We all just have to go back to the Holy Spirit and switch off our favorite Christian media

795
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,200
programs for a season and step back into the firm and hear what God is after saying.

796
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:38,360
Bro, what you said, again, you dropped these things that if we follow the metric of like,

797
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,080
we will end up like Saul.

798
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,240
And that's just so crazy because, you know, I think here's where it comes down to.

799
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,160
And I appeal and you're making this appeal to anyone that has a microphone, whether you're

800
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,400
in a pulpit or whether you're at Google or rather you're in a classroom or wherever your

801
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,440
office place, your Starbucks, because you really have a choice of being a catalyst or

802
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,440
a chameleon.

803
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,040
And I remember in high school, I think we studied this thing about a catalyst is that

804
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,680
it is this element that actually forces everything else to change around it without itself undergoing

805
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,600
a change based on the environment surrounding it.

806
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,240
Surrounders you place it in, which is the exact opposite of a chameleon, a type of lizard

807
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:20,000
that takes on the hue, the color, even sometimes the temperature of the atmosphere is placed

808
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
it in.

809
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
And you're right.

810
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,320
And what the goal of being popular sometimes, whether it's from your pulpit or on your social

811
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,240
media accounts is it's turned what should have been a catalyst into a chameleon.

812
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,240
And you can get a lot of likes, but you can get so many likes, you don't realize you've

813
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,760
left the light trying to be light.

814
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,760
Wow.

815
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Oh my goodness, bro, little bro.

816
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,320
Hey man, for the respect of your time, because so many things we can hit, what do you feel

817
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,240
in terms of what is God seeing prophetically in 2024?

818
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,320
I know for you that's going to be a huge long later down the road, probably series of messages,

819
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,600
a theme of conferences, everything, but in a nutshell, what is something that you felt

820
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880
like maybe on that flight back you were pressing in?

821
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,200
What do you feel like God is saying to us, the body of Christ for 2024?

822
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Wow.

823
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,560
I can tell you a part of the prophecy that the Lord gave me.

824
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,640
The custodianship of nations really being transferred to earth in 2024 because agendas

825
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,960
are being set and we're coming into that Psalm two time, but the nations are conspiring

826
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,960
against the Lord.

827
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,880
And if we're not careful, we will fall into the temptation of think God's eyes are on

828
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,520
the elections again, not on the elect and the weight has shifted.

829
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,880
And now what that means for the elect is we have to upgrade ourselves to a level to which

830
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,160
we have capacity to relegate figure states as traditional.

831
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,720
And what I mean by that is Joseph had so worked out his governance strategy that by

832
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,960
the time he was gone, Pharaoh was a traditional figure head of state.

833
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:54,000
He was a tourist attraction and a face on a coin by the time Joseph had finished.

834
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,240
Same thing with Nehemiah.

835
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,120
When Cyrus asked Nehemiah, what do you want?

836
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,240
Blanchett moment, put anything you want there.

837
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:07,040
Nehemiah didn't, I'm an R. I think today's generation, if a philanthropist or a benefactor

838
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,920
or a ruler was to come to us and say, what do you need?

839
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,080
We wouldn't have an answer.

840
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Nehemiah had a pre-pair, pre-plan.

841
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,480
I thought you'd never ask.

842
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,720
Here's one I made earlier kind of answer.

843
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:18,720
To the question.

844
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,600
And so I think the church needs to prepare its answer.

845
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
I think it needs to prepare its solution for nations.

846
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,680
I think we need to stop asking ourselves, well, how do I govern my church and start

847
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,280
asking how to re govern the nation?

848
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,200
How if we were the leaders, if we were the MPs, if we were the ones fixing our streets,

849
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,200
what would they look like?

850
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,320
Because we're switching from realm of the anointing to the realm of the glory and we're

851
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,360
not leaving the anointing to enter the glory.

852
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360
We're switching into an understanding of the glory.

853
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,560
I feel the anointing.

854
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,880
I don't feel the glory.

855
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Moses didn't know that his face was shining.

856
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
That means when you're in a glory season, you don't know you switched.

857
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,280
The only way to know you switch into a glory season, the Lord showed me, was when Isaiah

858
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,880
61 says, Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Lord is among me.

859
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:05,400
Me, chlorophyll, I did broken hearted, depressed, down and out, heavy, suicidal, captive, imprisoned,

860
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
all of those people are victims.

861
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Every single one of the people in Isaiah 61, not one of them is a champ.

862
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,760
All of them go to Isaiah 60, the chapter 4, rise and shine, and light's come, glory and

863
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,760
glory, glory and glory.

864
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,480
I'm a king, princess, nobles, rulers, all of these people are victims.

865
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,000
So in the glory, God starts to change your audience from problems to solutions.

866
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,280
And when He shifts your audience to those kinds of people, you have to learn like Nehemiah

867
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,600
to prepare your ask.

868
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,000
You have to learn like Joseph to prepare your seven-year strike.

869
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,440
I believe that we're now in that time because I do believe a famine is coming.

870
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080
I do believe something is coming in the next few years.

871
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,960
I've held true to that word for what gave me about the seven years, nine years, eight years,

872
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,000
seven years. I do believe so coming. But if God tells Joseph something is coming, Joseph decides

873
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,480
to build a strategy around that, not to just sit and wait for it to happen to him. God gives us

874
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,040
a heads up so that we can rule better. And so I think we're waiting to do all our ruling and

875
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,000
reigning in heaven. God's like, why wait on heaven when you do all of it down here? Oh, my goodness.

876
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:14,560
I love that because I'm always one of these guys, maybe to a fault. I don't know. But I felt like

877
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,280
I've been in circles where it's been. And I talked about this recently at a prophetic gathering that

878
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,320
when King Joe Asher was in the room with Elijah, he was afraid. He says, oh, my father, my father,

879
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,280
the chariots of Israel and the horsemen, he's so concerned about the war outside from the Syrians

880
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,520
and the Aramaians. He didn't know who he was in the room with. This dude a little bit later down the

881
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,960
road would die. His bones would bring revival. But in the room there in that passage, it says,

882
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,400
that the prophet put his hands on him. And so my whole thing is what I love what you're saying

883
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,640
about now getting strategies, being ready to be a voice in the midst of it. It's like, hey, tough

884
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,440
times are coming, but we're meant to be the head and not the tail in the midst of that. We should

885
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,680
have something that we should be ready that we could be that voice. We could be Joseph in the

886
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,080
midst of the famine. And I love that because what I end up saying is, Joe Ash, King Joe Asher is in

887
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,200
this room with Elijah and his war out there. I said, he was so concerned, if you will, about

888
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,160
World War three out there that he didn't know he was in the room with the third great awakening

889
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,360
right now. And I feel like it's all, it's all a shift of where you're going to put your focus.

890
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,600
Tell me, so I love that man of just because the thing is, is that I want to ask a tology. I want

891
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,800
a belief system. And I feel like it's God that is going to get me into the great commission

892
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,280
every single day when I wake up. It causes me to feel like it's not the day to run and hide.

893
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,400
You know, my mentor would make this phrase and I love it. He said, in times aren't happening to

894
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,440
believers, believers are happening to the end times. And that's what I hear you saying, man. Hey,

895
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,440
I want to be respectful of your time. You've already told people why you should come to momentum 2024,

896
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,960
January 18th through the 20th. And we're going to have Tony here. He's going to, he's going to be

897
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,120
the only one that's going to speak two sessions. But let me ask you this, how can people listening

898
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:02,160
right now get in contact with you? What schools, what conferences, books, socials, anything, man,

899
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,840
because I know that people have heard what you're sharing, bro. And as the rock used to say, I could

900
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,400
smell what you're cooking. And man, they love it. It's a savory scent. How can we follow you, bro?

901
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,760
Well, they can touch me on all my social media, which is my name and then tell me around me.com,

902
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,800
which is my personal website that we root to every other website. But you know, I just want to say

903
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,000
why should people come to momentum? I think that every January we make our New Year's

904
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,240
Revolution. And we always talk about, well, this year, I'm doing this year, this year,

905
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:36,640
I've discovered every time my life is changed, it's not because of the New Year's resolution,

906
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,200
because of the New Year's revelation. And I think if you're going to start your January right,

907
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,520
you don't need a resolution or a revelation. And momentum is going to be that place where

908
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:51,280
a ton of amazing speakers are going to be sharing revelation and strategy, which the Lord told me

909
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,000
strategy is going to be more important than products and ministry and service. If you get the

910
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,440
right strategy, you're going to succeed in an end 24. And so my whole word has been strategy,

911
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,200
strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy, strategy,

912
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,360
because one of the words for apostle, there's three words for apostle in the Bible, bishop or

913
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,320
episcopate, there's apostolo, which is apostol. There's one very few people know about it,

914
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,080
it's called the stratiori. It's where apostle Paul said the weapons of our warfare, that word

915
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,240
stratiori means apostolic mission. It's where we get the word strategy from, which is where we

916
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:29,200
get the word general from. So generals are there to give us strategy. I was watching the, on the

917
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,520
plane back, I was watching the World War II and color on Netflix, because I'm a big history buff,

918
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I love history. I was checking it out. And you know, every war that was won by Hitler was won

919
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the right general. Every war that was lost was lost because of the wrong strategy and putting

920
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the wrong general on the wrong place. And so you actually realize the apostolic is going to be so

921
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crucial to the next few years we're coming into. So crucial that the level of divine intelligence

922
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that God is going to have to put on the apostolic mission to make it something that people actually

923
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have verbs in their sentences and know exactly what to do. Like for instance, I don't want to

924
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spend too long on this, but I'm working with a guy in our Gossian school that is basically

925
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teaching everybody how to turn their back garden into a farm called Gossians of God. And he's doing

926
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this thing that I call ground hacking. I call it ground hacking because he's managed to, you know,

927
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I didn't know it takes days or months for vegetables to grow, but years for fruit to grow. I mean,

928
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you're talking like 10, 20 years for one fruit. I didn't know that I was mind blown by that fact.

929
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And he said, but you can actually, you can actually get a mature root and you can hack it by cutting

930
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it in half and in grafting a baby onto the, onto the mature root. And it tricks it to think that

931
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it's mature and it starts producing fruit in a year to three years. I was like, isn't that just the

932
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story of us in Christ being grafted root, how we're in grafted on the branch? Number one.

933
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And number two, I was like, wow, I said to the internet, I said, wow, like we have computer

934
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hackers. You're like a round hacker. You've hacked the earth. You've hacked nature, you know, and

935
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he started laughing and all of a sudden the Holy Spirit spoke to me and he said, we're coming into

936
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a net big crisis of cybersecurity and we're going to see lights off in major cities around the world.

937
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We're just going to see a blackout attack. And the people that are going to survive are going to

938
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be the people who understand agrarian cultures, farming cultures, land culture. You know,

939
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,360
everybody else is going to panic because supermarkets are going to shut down because trucks can't

940
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drive because there's no lights, there's no electricity, there's no petrol. But the people

941
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who understand the time and the season we're stepping into are so going to build their own

942
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:38,240
self-sustaining economy that it's really not going to affect what's happening around the world because

943
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:44,320
they've already developed in themselves. That's why Goshen is so important. Goshen was a self-sustaining

944
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:50,560
economy in the midst of a failing economy. Goshen was thriving, property market rising, farming

945
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,960
thriving, everything thrived in Goshen whilst everything else failed in Egypt.

946
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,440
Hey, I'm just going to say, anybody listening right now, you need to go right now to

947
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,680
SeanandChristasmith.com, get your registration. We've got discount of you bringing in more than

948
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,400
10 people, but man, you do not want to miss it. Tell me, bro, you just got back from Hungary.

949
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,520
You, man, have jumped on this podcast and dropped such a revelation, man. We so appreciate you.

950
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,560
We can't wait to see you in January, man. Thanks so much for jumping on, keep it 100.

951
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,040
Much love to you. Give our love to Tay-Mart, man and the fam. We adore you guys, bro.

952
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,640
Thank you. Love you too. Thanks for having me.

953
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All right, bro. Blessings.

954
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,880
Oh my gosh.

955
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,840
I don't even know how you get revelation like that. That's not even fair.

956
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,040
I always feel like I have to go get on my face every time I hear,

957
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,280
tell me, the man is profound and truly walks in supernatural revelation.

958
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,880
And I love the fact not only does he walk in deep revelation, she heard, know that,

959
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,720
but last year in his session, he laid hands on everybody in the building.

960
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:50,400
I just want you to know this isn't just the conference where you're going to come take notes.

961
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:50,720
That's right.

962
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:54,320
This is a conference where you're going to receive an impartation and a marking.

963
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,880
That's right.

964
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,680
And this guy comes in and I'm going to tell you, I'll just, I'll just keep it 100.

965
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,600
I don't think you could probably count on your hands how many people were left standing

966
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,520
at the end of Tommy's session when he was laying hands on the glory of the Lord.

967
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,720
So he's bringing that crusade. Anybody knows that kind of talk.

968
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:16,160
Like he's been in Africa and other continents that he's had massive numbers of people that

969
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800
have come together in the thousands and he tens of thousands.

970
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,200
And so he understands that authority and that anointing.

971
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,200
And so you just want to get there and be a part of it.

972
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,960
I tell you what, it's so true.

973
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,360
We have so many testimonies from last year from pastors who were really at the end of their line.

974
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,280
They were like, we're done. We're going to quit.

975
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,640
We're going to walk away from pastoring.

976
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,600
They were burned out.

977
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,800
They were in that session.

978
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They got hands laid on them and literally they got revived and viable, then broke out at their churches.

979
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,320
I mean, we're talking, you know, unmeasurable because it's been so incredible,

980
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,920
you know, just significant outpouring and a counter for people that came to that time.

981
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Yes, it was powerful.

982
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,320
And we believe that God who gave us that level is going to cause a new level of grace,

983
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,520
new level of outpouring to come January 18th through 20th.

984
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,720
So sign up and be a part of that.

985
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,520
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986
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993
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994
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Christa now and keep it 100.

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