There probably hasn't ever been a time in history like this moment where people talk
so much but say so little, where we are on information overload but a revelation deprivation.
What does it take to possess a voice that releases heaven sound, that brings breakthrough
and transformation and leaves the presence of God in its wake?
Stay tuned to keep it 100 episode 4 where we will hear from David and Nicole Binyon
as they share the genesis of their voice.
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How you guys doing?
Good, good.
We're so glad to see your faces and be on this podcast with you.
So fun to have you guys.
We love you guys and just whenever we get the chance to be around you which is not as
much as we want, we just love who you are and what you carry.
Your sound which we're going to be talking about your sound today and there's been such
a surrender in your sound and you hear the surrender because it's all about its presence
in your services.
Well we feel the same about you guys so we're just...
I don't know that I've ever heard someone say that about hearing the surrender in the
sound.
I don't think that's...
That's key though, that's it.
That is huge, that's so accurate.
The total abandon we said last night revival is so...
It's essential.
It is essential.
Come on, this is going to be amazing.
Yeah.
All right, we're going to jump in this.
When did you first discover that God had given you this voice to worship?
What's interesting is David and I, we're about 10 years apart in age but our stories are
so similar as far as our gifts being discovered and used at a very young age.
So I was like four or five years old, my mom was a singer, my grandfather was a pastor,
my mom was our choir director so she sang in our church and so from a very young age
she's like, Nicole, I could sing, I could sing on pitch and I was probably about five
years old.
I mean we had an evangelist coming through town in our little assembly of God church.
The evangelist's wife heard that I could, found her new singing at this little four or
five year old girl.
And she taught me this song and had me sing it at church that Sunday night.
So for me, I just always growing up using my gift in church and in school as well.
So just a young age, I knew I was always passionate about singing and I always hated being in
front of people but I just, I loved singing so much that I would just get up there like
knees knocking.
I love it.
So from a young age.
That's awesome.
Well, you had this incredible, flawless talent from a young age but the talent itself is
that what changed the atmosphere when she sang.
There was like, she discovered, you always tell the story when you remember when you
were singing, oh how do you love you and me, the first time when you just felt as a child
the love of Jesus.
Wow.
Come on, her.
And it just, it so impacted what happened when she sang.
She discovered something in him.
I remember hearing her as a teenager, my sister and I were traveling singing and we would
come, they're there a little, somebody got church and she would sing and that's even
at 11 and 12 years old, we were astounded how the atmosphere changed when she sang.
Wow.
So she already carried this.
Right.
So here's this gift, here's a talent, it's recognized by everyone around you.
You're constantly being like told in a great way, you're like, you're so gifted at this.
And then there's this moment where you actually release it and you discover, wow, God's in
this because they shift when I sing.
So is there a specific moment that when that first recognition within yourself of like,
God shifts things through me when I use my gift for him, my voice for him?
You know, I think I probably didn't realize that God's using me to shift the atmosphere.
I just remember just.
God's shifting you.
Yes.
Oh, that's so good.
Being able to sing like how it connected me to the Lord and how I, I was just felt the
love of Jesus and knowing his love, feeling his love and being able to connect to him
through my voice.
I think it just, it marked me from a young age and kept me on a path of pursuing Jesus.
I love that.
For me, I was marked by God from the earliest memory I have.
I don't have a memory in my life that I wasn't aware of him.
I remember three years old and I watched a leg grow out.
Wow.
And so I'm just a kid watching this miracle happen as a child, not even really knowing
how to get my mind around it.
I just knew it was, I knew he was there and I just, I would always weep when I sensed
it.
As a little child, I'm weeping not because it's a miracle, but because I know it's
him.
I know he's real.
Every season of my life, just a breath, focusing in his direction and suddenly he's there.
And so it was just for me, but I grew up in an era where before there was a worship genre
and we lived here in the South and we sang Southern gospel music with my family and all
of our songs were about going to heaven.
I love that.
When we all get to heaven, what a day, every joy, every, I'll fly away, oh boy.
All of the old hymns and they were always about going to heaven.
So I was, I think I was 15 when I was in a church in Kentucky and it was like very traditional
Pentecostal kind of old, hammy church.
And for the first time they'd sang all these songs, but at the end of their worship set,
and it wasn't even called a worship set.
They started singing for the first time in July.
They started singing O come let us adore him.
And I'm 15 and the atmosphere shift.
And I was like, okay, what?
I couldn't even get my mind around it yet.
Now again, I've always known the presence.
My mom and dad could peel the pain off the wall with their prayer.
It was like, I always knew the presence because they walked in the power of God.
And even in those services you would sing and you'd get going fast enough and it's all
Pentecostal and you would get goosebumps and you think goosebumps are the measuring line
that this is the anointing.
But in this moment at 15, I was like something turned for me and I didn't even know what
to do with it.
We traveled in a gray hand bus.
I remember everybody's, I don't know where everybody is on the bus by myself and I've
been reading my Bible and I remembered what happened in surfacing out before and I put
my hands on these little closet doors and I'm standing there and I just start singing
Oh come let us adore me.
Oh come in the wind of God came.
And it wrecked me.
I didn't want to move because I thought if I moved a finger it would go and I wanted
to stay in this presence.
And so I just began to practice that privately for months.
I still didn't know how to translate it to our, when we all get to heaven services.
Right, because it was different.
It was a whole different world.
But I remember we went to this one church and it seemed like it was like the deadest
church.
You know it's like you sing all the high songs and the fast songs and push all the buttons
that make people respond.
Well none of those buttons were working in this particular service.
But meanwhile privately I've been walking in this exchange with the Lord on a daily
basis and more out of desperation than anything else.
I just needed His presence in this service and none of my family knew what I was going
to do.
I was the youngest but I'm playing the piano.
And so I just closed my eyes and hit this key and started singing for the first time
in church for me.
Oh come let us adore me.
And my family found harmony and started singing along and I opened my eyes and what had been
dead church suddenly an entire congregation.
It's on their feet caught up in this.
Wow.
And I'm like I'm 15.
Oh my.
And I'm like this is why I'm on the planet.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Wow.
And so with that I had started writing music but I was writing all of these going to heaven's
arms.
Right.
You'll never hear any of those songs.
But I started writing worship music.
It took me a couple years before I started doing that because I started I had to walk
through this process.
Right.
And the Lord just started shipping it for me.
And so I started writing these songs.
Even at 18 I had this one song that I wrote called Ode for a Thousand Tongues that became
like Song of the Year.
And it was it was a song that God would use as a tool to open doors for us.
That's a phenomenal song.
And it was it was but it was it's like I realized God you really do inhabit the praise of your
people.
And I remembered there was an old him over a thousand tongues to sing.
And so I wrote a modern version because I said God this is how I feel.
If you will show up for me all by myself what would happen if I had a thousand tongues and
use every one.
If one gets me here what would a thousand where would that get me.
And so it just became my passion and it like it set my course.
I love that.
I love that as you begin to shift the worship from the heavens that will be in heaven one
day so it's to exaltation.
Totally.
And I feel like you guys are such a great model of worship that exalts.
We have worship that is responding to God.
Our emotional response to God.
There's nothing wrong with those.
But there I can always tell the difference in a service when the when the songs we're
singing are songs of exaltation.
They're relational.
That's right.
And so there's a total shift in the atmosphere when we shift from I feel this way I feel
this way I feel this way to God who are you.
I'm declaring who you are in my circumstances in the situation because you never change.
Your character is the same yesterday today and forever.
And when we take a posture of just declaring who God is despite how we feel everything
shifts but you to model that exaltation worship so well which I guess leads me to my question
number two for you guys.
How did you guys discover your sound together because you discovered it individually now
your husband and wife now you're leading together.
What did that look like because let's call it the Benyans sound.
There's a distinct sound the Benyans have like I can hear it.
I've heard your songs on the radio.
I've heard your songs for years.
Oh that's the Benyans like there's a sound you have that God has released through you
guys and how did you discover that what's the process because again we're talking about
the genesis of a voice.
How did that process come through in your worship together as husband and wife.
Yeah well I would say musically just like musical influences in the church I think you
know both of us when we got married we were David was a pastor at our church outside of
Chicago very diverse congregation and the music of the church was had a gospel flair to it
so I feel like that part of our sound like that soulful gospel sound just because of
just how we were influenced and when we discovered that exuberant expression in the church like
our we I think we kind of came alive then you know we're married for a few years we
have this experience we in the presence of God that just wrecked us you know through
really one of our spiritual fathers Tommy Tinney he came through to our church and just put
us on a path we end up you know resigning our position at that church we end up going
to just a full time itinerant ministry and did for a few years just did a ton of meetings
with Tommy Tinney who at that time you know God was using he was writing a book called
the God Chasers and so we were going all over the nation David went to a few other countries
with Tommy and facilitating I mean just the hunger of God's people and so we were just
I mean those days those few years of services where we're just in the presence of God for
hours I feel like that is what develop are really the sound of worship that comes out
of us.
Let me let me say like this because what we encountered we knew the press we knew the
anointing right up in an experienced and anything you can imagine in terms of miracles that
talked about that my dad was the even evangelist I remember is 13 and it's on my dad raised
the debt so I've been around the anointing but I had never known the glory and the realm
of glory is such an incredible death it's Tommy Tinney always taught us is the anointing
will enable you but the glory will disable you and when Solomon dedicated the temple
the priests were unable to minister because of the cloud when the glory invaded our church
I it was frightening and I remember climbing under the piano.
You know the story of the piano afraid to move and I was there for five hours and it
felt like 20 minutes but it messed me up but what happened is when I got up I had no song
in my arsenal that was appropriate for what we were experiencing and so out of that came
the prophetic.
Yeah, right.
There were no songs so I had to just like we would for there were months that the glory
was in the church and we would drive on the property and I drive into his presence and
it's like you didn't have to start over you just pick up where you left off and it was
like all of my planning was inappropriate for the glory that was there so I had to shift
and figure out how to navigate that that has been the driving force it's been the carrot
and fun of the race horse that drives us because it's like every time we have worship there
have been I don't know that I've ever encountered the same degree as I did that first time there
are moments when maybe there's a 30 minute window so every time we go into any session
any worship set were like could this be the day you come again and do that and reveal
yourself like that again and so it's like it's what gives us the authority to worship.
You know there are people that sing songs and learn arrangements and do and they're
anointed right.
So the anointing enables the glory disables and for me it's all about the surrender.
Yeah right.
It's those years were really that when you talk about the sound of surrender that's
when that was hewn out.
I mean that's you know those those years of plan for it right you couldn't prep for it
other than your prep was surrender.
Yes.
I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, no that's that's it.
That's really the sound of surrender was really developed in us over those few years and you
know we've had we'll have like you know occasionally a husband and wife who lead worship together
like how do you and David flow together like this and how do you know we want to be able
to do that.
I'm like you know it was really those few years of just being in those services together
and not just and just dive in it.
Yeah.
So what's it called the friend fall the trust the trust.
Yes.
It's like you get to this place you're like God I don't know if this is going to work
right but I'm going for it right and you just dive in thinking you're going to make you're
going to look like an idiot but then suddenly God gives you totally the moment.
Like I remember coming to Vegas and I don't know if you were on staff at the time when
we came at international church of life.
Yeah.
And I wrote on the spot jumping the river.
Oh yeah.
It was it was one of these moments.
I was there for that.
Yeah.
So what happened is I were leading worship that night and I feel like it's the glory
it's the carrot it's the God I feel like we're at it.
These people are almost to the dropping off spot.
And if I just knew how to nudge them and in this whole congregation is going to fall into
that place.
And so while I'm there these lurches just start coming out of me.
I sit at the edge of the river where the water is shallow and safe and I can still keep my
balance or get out if they make any way.
I love to come to the river be refreshed from the sun and the heat but just standing here
is getting me nowhere.
I keep hearing a call from the deep.
I think I'll go ahead and jump in.
I surrender my body and soul.
I'm losing my inhibitions.
I've decided to give up control.
And every every sentence came then the next one came.
If I sink if I swim I just want to get to him and I just started jumping and then the
place.
Oh, I remember.
They just ran to the front and at one point it's just chaos.
It's divine chaos.
Yes.
It's this pathetic moment.
And then all the young people are over on this side of the stage.
That's a real high stage.
Yes.
And for those of you on the podcast I'm pointing to my left.
And I see them and they look at me and they kind of we kind of read each other's minds
and I look at them and they not like they knew what I was about to do and I ran and
dove.
I remember this.
And dove off the stage.
Off the stage.
It's like a six foot stage.
Right.
And they caught me.
I was like, oh my God, this is going to be really good or really bad.
Talk about a test fall.
The prophetic gesture brought this but it was the risk.
It was always I never let myself contemplate the notion when it comes I just trust fall.
I'm like, okay, here I go.
And it's not again, it's not about the voice.
It's the voice within the voice.
It's not about the sound, although it is, but it's sound within the sound.
I think what's cool is the sound within the sound.
You know, it still comes through me as an individual, David as an individual.
However, the worship leader is, it's like it is the sound within the sound, but it comes
through this vessel.
So that's what's so cool about the unique sound of different worship leaders and different,
you know, when God speaks for me, this is this is how I describe it.
When God speaks and you see picture, then he lets me use my vocabulary to describe the
picture.
Right.
So that's that's how we get to co-labor with him and partner with him.
Kind of.
It's so powerful.
I mean, I'm getting rocks here.
Right.
I mean, it's just what I love is you guys were fashioned in the glory of God.
I mean, your sound was fashioned.
I mean, and that's the marking point, right?
Those are the markers that when we have those encounters with God shifts from just a nice
service with total sincere hearts.
Like we show up and like, cool, we're worshiping God.
Then all of a sudden we begin to exalt, we begin to declare, we begin to prophesy out
of the spirit of God within us.
We begin to declare what he's saying at that moment in that meeting as we gather.
Holy spirit falls, glory of God falls.
You find yourself under a piano for five hours, which feels like 20 minutes.
You're on the floor, songless is out the door.
I mean, because there's nothing in us to be able to articulate or to worship this in this
moment because we don't quite know what to do because we know we're in a realm that's
not of the natural.
We're in a realm of the spirit.
And so again, I said at the beginning, but there's an ability of your maturity, but again,
we discovered how that happened.
There was years of you just willing to go to unknown territory to look foolish, to not
be in control, to just surrender, whatever it looks like.
You're like, I don't care.
And your constant push for the more of God comes from previous encounters, which leads
us to more encounters, right?
So how do you teach the next generation this?
We have this upcoming generation that's a worship generation.
I mean, we've seen worship ministries that have had an influence of sounds and gathered
people at stadium levels to worship, just to worship because there's such a cry to worship.
People love music.
They love to worship.
But there's a shift from just a worship song service, which can still be anointed.
But I feel like done are the days of just a nice song service.
We have to have more.
You guys represent the more.
How do you translate that to a generation?
Because maybe a lot of people don't know if your daughter Gracie sings with you.
And she's incredible.
She's written one of my favorite songs.
I mean, I had it on repeat.
And she's the sweetest person.
She's just, she's really special.
I mean, that's the best way to describe her.
She's really special.
So you guys have modeled that in your family, but you're also called to raise up a generation
of worshipers, not just leaders, not just worship leaders.
I'm talking about there's only a handful that are going to be worship leaders.
Right.
But how do you raise up a generation that love to worship?
But you, you take them beyond the set and you bring them to a place of the surrender,
of the, of the glory.
How, how do we do that?
Well, our main passion in life and this season of our life is we are now mom and pop to a
generation of young people.
And what's interesting is like when we launched our church, all the kids call me Papa David.
I love that.
But just what we've done is just made ourselves available.
Yeah.
It's like we really open up our heart and we just be accessible to them and walk it out.
I know for me, the way I found the places I would, I would be with people.
I remember as a kid, always wanting to be around the adults or the pastors and hear
their conversation.
And so when they didn't even know I was listening, but I would just, I was so intrigued because
I was hungry for more.
Right.
I was hungry for the more and I didn't even know what the more was.
And then I remember when, when Tommy Taney came to our church, I went to, over to the
pastor's house, he was staying over there and I just like, I asked him, can I just come?
I just want to be around you.
I just need to be around you.
And I need to know what you do.
I need to know how you do your life.
I just want to be near you.
And he just embraced me and why don't you just go with me to Iceland?
I got a tip.
Why don't you just go with me?
And I remember he was in the process of writing God Chaser.
He'd give me chapters to proofread.
And there were times I had to like on a plane and I had to like run to the bathroom and
close the door so that I could heave and cry.
So people wouldn't think I'm having a nervous breakdown because I was so wrecked.
So for me, he did that for me.
I see these young and not just music people, but I just see people, I don't know, when
God gives you the mandate, you don't even have to strive.
It's like you're like a magnet and it pulls people.
And when they come to you, you just love.
And so I try to be in close enough relationship that they just see it.
They must see me per se.
The sound of surrender and those moments of prophetic flow or whatever, that does not
come without a life of surrender.
So like when you're walking this out on a platform, while we're going through that process of
God doing this in us, we also, I mean, like we stepped away from all financial security.
We had a four month old baby.
You're like totally living this trust fall with the Lord in just complete surrendering
our life.
So really showing and teaching this generation, like it just doesn't happen on the stage.
It has to happen in your heart and in your life or it to overflow out of you.
It's like, well, you know, even with our kids and we have a 22 year old son is about to
be married and, you know, we're having this conversation the other night.
You know, just the intensity of just like real life and responsibility.
He's feeling the weight of that, you know, we're like, this is when you really get to
dive into like trusting the Lord, knowing the Lord for yourself.
Like you're working as hard as you can.
You're doing all this thing.
You're doing the best you can.
You commit, you bring your time to the Lord, you know, but then you just, you just trust
him.
You put your faith in him.
And so it's like, this doesn't just apply, right?
To singers and musicians and people who are, but it's really walking it out and coming
to the place of as parents, it's hard to, you know, see your natural kids and your spiritual
kids kind of walk through this sometimes and like the loneliness or the friends falling
away.
You know, and it's like, God, if you just lean into the Lord in this season, you know,
he's going to do something so special in you.
Well, the truth is you talked about the people, the friends that fall away because you, you
live in this place.
And unless someone has had a similar encounter, they have no clue what you're talking about.
And so they just kind of like treat you like you're almost just, you feel isolated.
Right.
And it took years of walking this because of the relational encounters that we were having.
And the proof was always in the pudding, but it was like, it wasn't in the relationship.
There were a lot of lonely years of walking this out and people thinking you're nuts.
Right.
But now you've got this legacy and people are like, how do we do this?
How do we do this?
Right.
And it just cost everything.
You know, I love what you guys are saying.
You're saying so many jewels, but a few things that are just sticking out that I felt like
just even for our listeners, they're a really great takeaway.
The sound of our voice and what we release has to come from a place of surrender, has
to come from a place of encounter.
There has to be a time where we step beyond just the routine and the planned and the normal
and we get into a place where we just say, God, whatever it looks like, we don't care.
We just need you.
And then we have to teach the next generation a posture of surrender and they're going to
have their own sound.
We're not trying to have them duplicate the sound, but we can model how to get that sound
for themselves.
We can model surrender.
We can model surrender and you can model that trust ball.
You can model the faith as you guys were talking about, but it has to come through allowing
people into your life.
Yes.
Right?
Oh yeah.
And you have to make space for people to get into your life.
You have to be able to have a space for people that's so busy, so demanding and we're pretty
private.
It's like having a relationship, letting people into your life.
It's risky.
It takes time.
It's inconvenient.
Right.
But we have a spiritual responsibility and I'm actually going to take it to a more, maybe
a more positive place in the word responsibility.
We have a gift to be able to share with the generation.
What I love is I'm here.
You guys have had people in your homes.
You've opened up your lives.
You've had the late night conversations.
You've been accessible.
You've had a space on the platform for people as well.
Yes.
That's it.
And I feel like that's so huge for the next generation.
If we want people impacted because we can look at the next generation going, man, they
need an encounter.
We have to show them.
What does that look like?
We have to model how that happens.
And again, theirs is going to look different, but you guys have done that so well.
I mean, I've seen it in your family, but I've also seen you last night even just and that's
not the first time.
Of course, I've been around you guys with, I've seen that every time for the last, what
15 years I've been around you guys.
You've always had other people on the platform with you.
It's never just been you guys.
It's always been a company of worshipers saying, come on, let's do this together.
Let's go after the more God.
I love that.
I want to jump in too, Nicole.
You said something so powerful because I feel like sometimes what is showcasing this generation,
you know, that it's the famous, the selfie you address is what they portray on the platform.
But you were saying it's really your lifestyle, that it's what God has done privately in your
heart that you walk out day in and day out highlights in that moment what happens on
the platform.
That was so profound.
That principal, H.W.
Tozer said, if you don't worship Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Wednesday, Saturday, what do you do on Sunday?
Say that again, David.
Say that again.
If you don't worship Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, what you
do on Sunday is not worship.
Because we've made it.
What is worship?
Well, that's what we do on Sunday.
We sing three fast songs and two slow songs.
Worship has to do with the song list we do at Church on Sunday.
That's not worship.
That is a vehicle that we get to ride in with our worship.
But it's always been the posture of one's heart.
It's this.
You've said worship is the sound our life makes.
You know, anytime the Lord asks you to step out and do something, right, it's, I mean,
it's scary, it's a walk of faith, it's sometimes lonely and that's tough.
But it's like just, that's when he becomes everything.
You know, last night as we were having our dual revival service and Dante Bo was here
with us and he was leading and he was saying, Jesus, you're not just the main thing.
You are the one thing.
You are everything.
I remember when we were traveling, while it was amazing, we were experiencing this stuff,
you know, in these Tommy Tent, you know, these God chaser meetings and we're just experiencing
the Lord, but God was doing such a work in me.
I was so miserable half of the time because here we are traveling with this baby.
I'm leaving my family.
You know, I was in my early twenties and just lonely.
I mean, there are times, but it was like, that's like, my parents can't fix this.
My husband, who's an amazing husband, can't fix this as far as like my heart, my loneliness
of my heart.
Right, right.
And Jesus truly became, and I know we're the body of Christ and we need each other.
So I know we need each other, but at the end of the day, if all I have is Jesus, He is
everything I need.
And it's, but it's that season of discovery of that.
I mean, there's no other way to get around it.
Right.
There's no other way to guess at that point.
It's the process of making Him first.
And that means if He has to do it, He will eliminate all of those distractions out of
your body so they can't be the only thing that matters.
And then of course, God brings you beautiful.
It's like, what's the past scripture?
We'll get a hundredfold in this life, but the thing is what we give up, what we give
up, God gives back to us.
Yes, it's the pruning.
And it is the pruning.
He gives back to us in relationships and He gives back and then suddenly you have sons
and daughters that you're pouring into and you're watching and you're empowering them.
You're giving them a place to make mistakes, not chastise them too much if they make mistakes,
but just I'd watch them learn from making mistakes how to make things right.
Instead of telling them you did it wrong, I let them come to me and I messed up.
And then I say, no, it's okay.
Just let this teach you.
So I love being able to help shape people and walk them and make them give them self-worth
and empower them to be what God's called them to be and speak like into them.
I just seen the power of declaration at work.
So powerfully guys.
That is.
Hey, this question I'm super excited about.
What advice would you give your younger self?
Such a good question.
Okay, on a practical level, don't spend money you don't have.
Say that.
That's good.
Don't spend money you don't have.
It's a practical level, but it impacts everything right?
Even impacts our ability to say, okay, Lord, I'll follow you wherever whatever you I mean
it can impact.
Sure.
I'll follow you Lord, but I got all this debt.
Yeah, because it ties you down.
Yeah.
It constricts you.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think for me on a spiritual level, I feel like I always struggled of not feeling
worthy of the call or worthy of the platform or work.
So while I do know, like I see the humility in that, but I do feel like there are a lot
of times and moments in my life that I struggled just because I didn't feel worthy or good
enough.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I, you know, like Nicole, you're worthy of this.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And simply because this the Lord called you to it.
So you're worthy to be in any room that God puts you in.
You're worthy to be on any platform that God puts you in.
I love that.
That's amazing.
I think so many people struggle with that.
Right?
Because we judge ourselves not from how God sees us, but how we see ourselves.
Right?
So we're always going to come up short with that measuring stick.
Yeah.
And so when you get that revelation of, no, I'm worthy simply because God called me in
his story.
God doesn't call me for my lack.
He calls me from who he sees me.
Yeah.
Sees me as.
Yeah.
I love that.
It's huge.
Okay.
What you got.
Come on, David.
Just say yes.
Yeah.
And then you can drag your feet.
Don't give yourself the opportunity to talk yourself out of what you feel God saying,
even if you're not sure it's him, just say yes.
I learned how to hear him.
There was this one point where I felt God was speaking to me and I'm just a kid, but
I'm in church and I feel like God's giving me a word and I just don't even know what
to do with it.
And then all of a sudden someone across the room starts giving the exact word and I left
defeated thinking, God, I didn't obey you.
And then my mom encouraged me and she gave me a scripture that said the prophets are
subject to the prophets and I didn't understand that, but it felt right.
And so I was like, okay.
But then I got to this other point again where I felt God was saying something to me and
I was like, I remember making this decision.
God, I don't know if this is you, but I think it's you and I want you to know that I'll
say yes to even what I think is you.
And so I spoke out what I thought God was saying and it kind of felt flat, but it was
okay.
I felt like I did the right thing.
Nobody, we didn't have the Pentecostal response when I said it.
But then the next time there was the stronger unction to say it.
I'm like, and I already made the decision.
I'm just going to say it.
And again, I'm not even fully aware of what I'm doing except I'd given it in my yes
and I would just say it and then there was the stronger and I get the Pentecostal response.
But so it's like the more I would hear his voice that are his, the impression of God,
maybe not an audible voice, but the impression and I would just more I gave myself to it
and would respond then the clearer it became.
And I realized even how it comes, it doesn't come from me.
It comes through me.
Yeah.
I always love when you share that about hearing the voice of God and obeying because so many
people, I'm sure you guys heard this question so many times, how do you know it's God and
how do you know?
And I love it when you share that because I think it's so teachable to like, okay, God,
my heart is, if I think this is you, I'm going to obey.
And usually it's a matter of just laying down our own pride, right?
Man, if we haven't told you guys already today, you're amazing.
And honestly, your wisdom and what you, I mean, what you guys brought was this rich life
that you've lived for God.
And we got these snippets of just, right?
This access to your story and your journey, which not only bless me, I know it's going
to bless our listeners, but I feel like if we grab ahold of what you guys shared today,
lives will be changed, transformed because it's all about the surrender.
It's all about the yes.
At the end of the day, we have one life to give for Jesus.
Let's give it everything.
Right?
He's so worthy of it all.
You guys are obviously pastoring, dual church here in Texas.
Is there any way that people that are listening can get in contact with you or any kind of
project that you guys have coming up that we could support you guys on?
Yeah.
Well, David and I, earlier this year in 2020, before pre COVID life, we released a brand
new worship album called the glory of Eden.
That's available.
It's available on all digital platforms, you know, Apple Music Spotify, all the places.
We have dual church Dallas YouTube channel, dual church Dallas, you know, Facebook page,
dual.church is the website.
I found number, he has.
PayPal donations.
Right.
But you know, God's doing something beautiful here and it's exciting.
It's another season of yes for us and just stepping out and just going, okay, God.
But yeah.
You tricked us.
You guys have done an incredible job gathering a community of worshipers and people that
just want the more of God.
So thanks for your guys.
We love you guys.
You guys are awesome.
Oh man.
Thanks for taking time with us and just talking with us.
We love you guys so much.
This is so great.
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