Buried securely within the cavity of the human chest is an indescribable muscle
charged by the tiny electrical impulses that beat 100,000 times a day pumping 1800 gallons of blood.
Yet the heart of a person is so much more metaphorically. Solomon told us above all
else to guard it for everything you do flows from it. On this episode we will talk about
purity of heart, the value of sanctifying your imagination and listen to the end as we have
a table talk with prophetic minister, author and life coach Bob Hazelit.
Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Shawn and Krista Smith. Join us in this space where we
take on real issues with real insight under real inspiration. This podcast is for those not looking
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Welcome to Keep It 100 with Shawn and Krista Smith. We're excited to have you.
We're so excited to be with y'all. We could not wait to get back into the podcast studio
and to share this episode with you. We hope that you're going to enjoy this. You know it's funny,
I was checking out some hashtags lately and it kind of made me laugh and there was this
hashtag urban greetings. Nice, okay. So they had different kind of greetings and I was
kind of checking them out. Okay, the classic greetings here are several of them. One is
what's good everybody? I like that one. It's real friendly, inviting. How you living fam?
What's going? What's up? Classic. That'll never go out, right? And then there is this super classic
upward head nod when two urbanites see each other. You do your head nod but it's got to be up.
That's good. You know, okay, so question as a non-urban person, like what am I allowed to do?
Here's the question because I don't want to be the lame non-urban that's like trying to be cool
and everyone's like cringing. They're like, don't do it. Obviously, I think you have this
relevance about you. I think you could definitely do what's good everybody. Nice. Okay, what's good
everybody? You could go, how you living fam? How you living fam? Now, if you're going to do the
upward head nod, you might want to have a little bit of history with the person when you first
bust that out. I'm actually going to go ahead and remove myself. I've seen you do that and I feel
like that's a code thing. It's a little bit of a code because when we first started dating, I remember
we'd be walking just random public places and you'd see another brother and you would like nod
your head up, do the upward head nod and you guys would have this moment and I was like, oh,
do you know him? You're like, no, I've never met him. It's an understanding between the two of you.
I can't enter that understanding. It's like, I get you. I know you're struggling, man, but we made
it because we're walking the streets right now. Upward head nod, upward head nod. That's right.
Acknowledgement, celebration. That's it. That's great. One of what we experienced this past week,
I would hate to be a weatherman meteorologist. This past week in Northern California, it's been
crazy, y'all. We've had heat wave. Oh, 100, well, no, 108. And we're in the San Francisco Bay area.
That's not all. We don't get humidity. No, no, no. We don't get heat like that. We don't get heat
like that. The other night, we had thunder and lightning. Oh, it was crazy. I loved it. Most
everyone hated it. I was loving it. Now you had the stat. How many thunders and lightning? Well,
I saw this on Instagram. I have apologized, but someone posted in the Bay area and there was
2,500 lightning strikes in four hours. I'm like, hello, did Texas move to California? What's up
with that? I mean, seriously, it was really abnormal for here. So we had heat wave, thunder
and lightning. We had torrential rains. We have fires. Right now, we're on alert because of the
smoke. Oh, yeah. And people have now evacuating their homes because of fires not too far from here.
It's horrific. Like it is insane. Everything about 2020 is like super over the top. I mean,
it's pretty crazy. And we're about to go into that election time. So it's about to get more
crazy. Oh, thank you. And it's an election year. I mean, Lord, do we need Jesus or do we need Jesus?
The one thing that I think this weather has showed us is it's been extremes. We've had this
extreme thunder and lightning and rain. Then we had this extreme heat, now extreme fire,
but there have been some other extremities this week, Christa. They talked to us. Okay. Trending
on Twitter this week and trending across a lot of different social media platforms is Cardi B's
new song called WAP. W-A-P. I'm not even going to tell you what it means. It's filthy. Thank you.
It's disgusting. But the point is I'm seeing this trend on the top of the list and across the board.
And there is such explicitness about this. And you were telling me comments that you were seeing
on Twitter and different social media platforms about the response to it. Right. Their sisters
are saying that that is ratchet. Oh, I mean, Cardi B song WAP. I mean, it is so filthy. And I sat
there and again, I didn't watch it. I don't want to watch it. But the reality is if that's trending
top on an entertainment level to me, it shows the depravity. And my concern would be for a 12-year-old
girl. Yeah. And she throws that on. And all of a sudden, that level of defilement comes their way.
But it's so overtly sexual at a whole other level now, which is different. And it was interesting
because we saw the contrast of the generations because I ran across this random YouTube video.
I was telling you about. Oh, this is hilarious. And these two young African American guys,
they're twins in the new trend and they're on YouTube. They have like half a million followers
and they record themselves reacting to videos. I love that. And the song they chose was In the Air
Tonight by Phil Collins. They're reacting to it and they're just enjoying the creativity, the
innovation. Like he does things different. He doesn't drop the beat until they're very into the song.
They're just doing things creatively and they're enjoying the innovation. They're enjoying the
creativity versus what else is trending this week is the Cardi B, which is like the most opposite.
And I think this totally epitomizes the extremes that we're going to be talking about even on this
episode. Absolutely. Today, we're going to have a conversation on the extremes of using your
imagination and your heart. I love that. Because there's been such a defilement with so much art,
music, song. We really want to be talking about what is real creativity and how does God actually
want to use your imagination because God gave us an imagination, but it has to be sanctified.
It's so clever of God to give us an imagination because it's in your imagination where many of
the miracles are birthed. Is that God uses your imagination. As in our imagination, many of the
miracles are birthed there. The same is also true that in our imagination, many miracles die there
because we fail in the way in which God intended for us to use. You know what I love is in scripture
like where there's always an invitation to come to him as a child, but we dream about projects for
God, things that we want to do. Like we dream about it. And I think I go back and that was
integrated and cultivated into me. I even as a young child, there's such an innocence in our
imagination that I feel like we're never supposed to lose, but so many of us go through life and
hard things do happen, difficult things happen. And we actually over time lose our imagination
and we lose our creativity. It's so true. And I think that the enemy so tries to defy our imagination
because the truth is, is that revelations, whether they're heavenly or demonic, they are both
received the same way through the imagination. True. So it's interesting. I was reading up on this
neuroscience, which is a study of how the brain operates, reveals that when our neurons fire
up to create a thought, they also over time create pathways in the brain and those pathways,
they become tendencies, they become our autopilot. So neuroscience says when our neurons fire up,
they create a thought, but over time they create a pathways in our brains. And it demonstrates
that the way we are now is a product of how we imagine Solomon said in Proverbs 237,
as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. So Solomon was getting neuroscience before neuroscience.
And you know what's so cool is as a Christian, we have access to create new pathways. So a new
pathway in your brain is actually created when you allow Jesus to take you through the process of
healing and restoration. That needs to happen. I just saw a video on American airline, a sister
or somebody else, they were straight up fighting out in the middle of the highway. Are you serious?
Oh, we're crazy. And I'm like, somebody needs to have some new neural pathways up in the air.
Another importance of our imagination is the God focus imagination is a key factor in our ability
to personally experience God, that it's in that place that God meets us and God sets up his throne
in that place. Because what we call imagination, the Bible also calls heart. You know, when the
Bible says in Ephesians 118, made the eyes of your understanding be enlightened, you would know the
hope of your calling or the eyes of your heart. It literally is the word translated imagination.
I love that. And lastly, just a real importance of our imagination is the faculty of our revelation.
You know, your imagination is the faculty of revelation. And that is such an incredible
concept where we know that we can have a fresh revelation that's available to us when our
imagination is sanctified and renewed in him. He downloads his truths to us and we don't live in
a state of just what we're seeing in the natural, but we live in a place of recognizing what God's
saying in the spirit. Alright, keep your 100 tribe. This right now, it's the scripture that I believe
changes everything. And the scripture is Matthew 5,8. It says, blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God. And so what Jesus was saying and a sermon on them out, blessed are the pure
in heart, for they will see God is that God blesses those whose hearts are pure and He blesses them
with a fresh vision of Him. And I've learned something. God creates a pure heart within us,
Christa, by defining what is pure and then directing me towards it. Our culture cannot
define for us what purity is. I know they may come out with a rating on a movie and they may make it
PG or they may make it R. So the motion picture association, they're rating the movie, but they
can't define what's pure for me. God alone can define what's pure for me. And then He directs
me towards that which is pure. That's so good. Also, we live in a time when purity is not something
people talk about. It's not valued. It doesn't seem to be popular. It's not like people go on and
talk about purity. It's almost like it's a forgotten understanding, but purity must be valued.
I'm open about this. I'm coming out with my first book and it's about my journey of singleness. And
one of the chapters is I talk about purity versus virginity. But you know, I was 39 years old when
I got married and I was a virgin. And it's definitely mocked in our society because there's even a
movie called Forty Old Virgin and not because it's a positive, right? And so here I was, you know,
a woman really making a stand for virginity and for purity. And that is like so unpopular even
in the church, right? Because people get to this place, especially when you begin to get desperate
and wanting to be in a relationship and be in a marriage and you find yourself people with
different standards. And there's a challenge and there's a pressure in our stances for purity.
And our stances often for virginity or for people that maybe have lost their virginity,
but now they're walking with the Lord and they're choosing celibacy and they're choosing to honor
God. And there is that process of transformation that we all have to go through. But taking that
stand for purity, boy, there's many times there's a cost for it. Is it worth it 110%? But we have
to understand we live in a society that mocks what is actually right. That's so true because that
impurity becomes an attack on our relationship with God. I'm going to really open up. I remember
years ago, right when I gave my life to Christ, I was on a college campus. Oh yeah. And as I gave
my life to Lord, I had a girlfriend at the time and our relationship wasn't obviously built on the
foundation of Christ. Our relationship was very moral. And so when I gave my life to Christ,
I kind of really was going after God. And in the midst of that, it was causing conflict in our
relationship. And I remember one particular night I was at my apartment and so my girlfriend at the
time of college, we were kind of like not boyfriend and girlfriend, but we kind of were. She called
me because she said, Hey, my roommate is gone. She had a gal who's roommate. She says, I'm here
some sounds around our apartment. I'm scared. Can you come and just check up on me? And so I'm a
baby Christian. It may not have been the wisest. So I said, Hey, I'm going to come over. I'm going
to make sure you're okay. I'm going to check around your apartment. I'm checking your apartment.
I'll hang out a while, but I'm going to go home. You know, I'm not going to stay the night. And so
I get there and I could tell she's, she's probably trying to make a move, but I'm shutting it down,
shutting it down, shutting it down. And so I'm in the living room. And so she, she's going to bed.
And I told her, I said, I'll wait till you go to sleep. So you don't have to worry. And then I'm
going to let myself out. And again, I'm not saying this is wisdom. I'm not saying this is the thing
to do. This was a baby Christian with baby Christian logic. And so all of a sudden she calls my name.
She says, Sean, I come over to her doorway, the threshold of her door. And all of a sudden she
sits up in bed and drops the sheet and she's totally naked. And in that point in time, she says,
come here. And it was like the movies where you're at the threshold of a door and you feel like a
wind tunnel trying to suck you in a room. It's like, I could feel that. It was like the Lord opened
my eyes and I saw this dark shadowy figure behind her. And he was waving like with a finger to come
kind of like something out of Charles Dickens' Scrooge, the ghost of Christmas past or something.
I immediately said, no. And she said to me, if you walk out that door, we're done. And I turned,
I was walking the door and I said, we've been done ever since I've lived my life to Christ.
And I walked out. But I knew in that moment my purity was challenged. And so I walked out there.
But I cried. I got to the car. I cried because it shook me that whole experience. But by God's
grace made it out with my purity intact. I love that you shared that because I think so many people
walk that out. And there's such a battle for the purity, especially if you've been living one way.
You have an encounter with Jesus. And then there is this pull of your old life. But as you don't
bow to it, as you don't come into agreement with it, as you don't give a place in your life,
and you really choose God, even in those times of pressure point moments, that when we allow God
to sanctify and bring purity to our lives, there are such a beautiful witness because so many people
don't see people live a life of purity. And that's such a contrast in such a sexually aggressive
culture that we live in. And it's so in your face. I mean, from a child to a married person,
it doesn't matter every age in between. There is constantly, I mean, if past 10 o'clock every night,
I'm watching like crime show. I mean, it's totally clean. But there's that 1900 advertisement that
pops on. I mean, there's no temptation for me. But I always pray when I watch that, that that thing
just gets blocked from every person that would be tempted by that. Because just sitting there
watching an innocent show, but from advertisements to everything, you're just bombarded in our society.
But we can walk in a level of purity and consecration when we allow God to take us through
that journey. I know in my life, I mean, I even said I was a 39 year old version, but that was
not without a battle, right? Right. At all for it. And Chris Vallatin talks about that a lot. He's
like, there's a battle for the marriage bed. There's a battle for your purity and it is a battle.
And you have to understand there is so much that comes at you that wants your purity.
And I remember from high school, I didn't date in college. I dated a guy right after college.
And there was different times where I would casually beginning to know someone and then
it was like, okay, this is a really great person. I was super upfront about my morals and
my boundaries. And obviously I wasn't going to have sex and I made it really clear. And there
was always came a point where I think there's the kind of that belief system. And especially with
guys, there was like, because I was the virgin, I think that there was a little bit of like a
mark on me that the guys wanted to conquer me. They wanted to be that person that got my virginity.
That's right. That's right. And so I felt at times a real pursuit and a pressure. And I remember
dating this one guy after college. And again, it was very casual. But one night we were just
hanging out and it was like, he got super like aggressive. And I was like, he had never been
like that. I'd never seen that side of him. And I got really nervous because I was like,
oh my gosh, is this going to go into a really bad situation? I just quickly just said,
hey, I think I need to go home. I think my roommate needs me. I just like did the whole panic,
made it up an excuse and got the heck out of there. And then I never heard from him again.
And then come to find out, I heard that he had been sleeping with a girl the whole time. He was
quote unquote getting to know me anyway. And so that I look back at my life and God so protected
me. But I also saw a consistent pattern where I laid down the boundary where guys were getting
to know me. And I was like considering if we were going to get in a relationship or not.
And I want you to know to anyone listening, they'll keep it 100 tribe. If there is someone that
cheats on you for your purity, there is a clear sign that is not the person the Lord has for you.
Because what I love is God brought Sean into my life and he's so honored my purity and he so
cherished it. And that is so important that we have people that actually advocate and cheer you
on. If you're in a relationship with someone that's pulling you against that standard,
that's a clear example of that's not the right person for you, right? And I want to talk to you
about the five benefits of sanctifying your imagination. I just said one of them a moment ago.
Number one, when you have a sanctified imagination, it then gives you a sense of clear direction.
When we're walking in a deluded version of who we're called to be and our imagination has mixture
in it, it also causes confusion. Mixture causes confusion. And I think that's so important for
us to understand that when we open up the gates to our imagination, we're allowing often a confusing
spirit to influence us. When we walk in a place of clarity, that's when we're walking in purity.
A second benefit of sanctifying your imagination is that you experience God. When our imagination
is been defiled, what happens is that the place where we experience God becomes fogged up. And so
we don't have a clear vision of God. We don't have a clear sense of God. And so often people are
saying, hey, I want guidance. I pray for discernment. I desire the direction. But yet I don't feel
anything. And I think the truth of the matter is, is God is always revealing himself to us.
He's ever about the business of guiding us. But the problem lies with our inability to discern
because if purity enables and enhances spiritual sight, impurity disables or diminishes our spiritual
sight. The third benefit of sanctifying your imagination is walking in a clear conscience.
And I just remember in college, there used to be this thing called the walk of shame. I'm sure it
still exists. It's a, you know, someone hooks up with someone, they go to sleep and they have on
the exact same clothes and they get up in the morning and they're like going home. And they're,
you know, they look exactly like they did the night before and everyone knows that they hooked
up with someone to spend the night with someone. So they call it a walk of shame. And there is,
that's such a metaphorical picture of when you're living in sin and living in compromise.
There is such a searing of your conscience that happens. And there's such a blanket of shame
that surrounds you because sin never edifies. Sin just shames, sin condemns. And when we walk in an
imagination and our conscience becomes clear, we're then able to walk in a clear conscience. And when
you walk in a clear conscience, there is such a freedom and such a joy that happens in your life
because you're not walking around with shame. The fourth point is you will be more untouchable.
Jesus said in John 14 30, the rule of this world is being cast down, but he has no hold on me.
That was a powerful posture to be in because Jesus is saying, I'm untouchable. And when you think of
the phrase, the ruler has no hold on me, maybe the biblical language is stronghold. The enemy
looks for strongholds. And when we allow impurity in our imagination, we're not untouchable. It's
just the opposite. The enemy has strongholds in which he can grab us and in a sense, pull us
towards things that are unhealthy for us, unbiblical or things that remove us from the
sense of who God is and what he has for us. The fifth benefit of sanctifying your imagination
is you are free from an emotional roller coaster. Come on, can I get an amen for that? Because
none of us want to live in an emotional roller coaster. When you have a sanctified imagination,
you know what your true north is. It's the Lord. It's the word of God. It's his spirit. And that's
his truth. And when we live from that place, it eliminates that high highs and the low lows.
Yeah, you might have a tough day, but at the end of the day, you know God's got you. And there's
that peace and that rest knowing you're not alone and God will never leave you or forsake you.
And some of you need to be reminded that when we walk in a sanctified place and we've been now
allowed God to renew our mind and our imagination, we can pull a testimony of how God has come through
before. You'll be reminded he can do it again. That's absolutely true. The opposite of purity
is defilement. And what we're describing right now, keeping 100 tribe, you got to understand,
there is a battle for your purity. Your imagination is under attack. The enemy wants to imprison
and corrupt your imagination. So instead of it being a place where God projects revelation, vision,
his voice, his presence, that it becomes something defiled. And so here's what I've noticed that
darkness wants to use specifically. When darkness wants to defile you, darkness will try to shut
down your imagination by first of all using past bad experiences. That's so true. The enemy wants
to bring up trauma and tragically, there may be some that even they've experienced abuse, sexual,
coming up. And so the enemy wants to bring up past bad experiences. And instead of having the freedom
in your imagination to receive from God, you're rehearsing that past bad experience. The second
thing darkness wants to use is unclean images and impurity. And that's the reason why right now,
I believe the enemy is so coming at a generation with pornography. It's not just a guy thing anymore.
It's a guy and a gal thing. It's so true. There's a reason why David the Psalmist said,
I will put no impure thing before my eyes because he understood that he was in a battle against
darkness and darkness was trying to defile his purity and his imagination. That is so true.
I'm going to call our eyes a gate, right? I'm going to call our ears a gate. And so we have to
understand if you have open gates in your life and you have closed gates in your life. So if you've
ever had to go through a gated community, you have to have an access code, right? Or a gate, a door
that has a lock on it. You have to get an access code to get in there. And it's like you choose
what you give an access code to in your imagination, into your mind. And friends, you have to understand
to our Keep It 100 tribe, whatever you put into your life is always going to come out in some way.
So don't be foolish. Don't don't get it twisted. You're not going to be able to watch those
pornographic movies. You know, I don't care what's trending and what's on the top of the charts or
whatnot. I understand you want to be in the mix. I understand you want to watch the latest and the
greatest. But you have to understand when you put that stuff into your life, it's going to come out
in one way, shape or form. And how it's going to come out is through your talk, through your action,
through your belief systems, your perception of how you think you see things, how you think about
things. And you have to understand that when we want to be able to walk in a place of discernment,
there is a clearing of our mixture that has to happen in our lives. That's so true. That
not only does darkness want to use past bad experiences, unclean images and impurity, but
third of all, that the enemy wants to use unhealthy fantasy to harass us. It's one thing to play a
video game, but it's another thing for the video game to play you. And so often you find people,
they're giving up sleep, they're late night depriving themselves. It's not worth it because
the enemy wants to use it to harass you, intimidate you and ultimately enslave you.
It's so true. And the reality is we know that all that does is cause bondage and division between
you and God. And at the end of the day, you and I can agree that's never going to be worth it,
because what you gain from being in connection with God is a clear path and a clear conscience.
Keep your 100th try. We love to give you some action points to close out. And so our call to
action this week for this episode, sanctifying your imagination, is listen to what God is saying.
And in order to listen to what God is saying, sometimes you have to turn off distractions.
The Holy Spirit doesn't want to have to compete for your attention. So it's just this place of saying,
hey, I'm going to read and memorize scripture. I'm going to wash my imagination with the water of
God's Word. And so if you listen to what God is saying, it is in fact one of the greatest
takeaways you could do in terms of sanctifying your imagination. The second thing that we want
you to walk away with is talking it over with your godly mentors. I'm going to call that accountability.
Get accountability into your life. Get a second set of eyes, because we all have blind spots in
our life. When you allow someone to have a viewpoint, some eyes into your life, they're
going to be able to expose some things that you may not see. You may not even be aware of,
but those around you are aware of them for you. And God allows accountability to create safeguards,
because when you walk in a safeguard, it's a beautiful process of Lord takes you into protect
you and leads you into place of purity and righteousness. Third of all, the third call
to action is stay away from defiling things. 1 Peter 2.11 tells us to abstain from fleshly lusts,
which wage war against our soul. And so it's very clear that fleshly lusts wages war, sexual sin,
clouds your vision. There's no way that as this nation in terms of the early wars, everyone remembers
the revolutionary war. That was the war for freedom. And then everyone remembers the civil war.
That's when the North and the South divided and we fought against each other as a nation.
There's no way that you could win the revolutionary war and the civil war at the same time. You're
fighting for freedom for others. You're called to be a freedom fighter for your generation,
but you're not able to fight that revolutionary battle for their freedom. If you're fighting a
civil war of allowing your own thoughts to be clouded by ungodly impurity and so understand
to stay away from defiling things is simply to guard your gates. And there's a scripture says in
Numbers 33.55 it says, but if you fail to drive out the people who live in the land,
those who remain will be like splinters in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will arrest
you in the land where you live. And so really, how do you make that plane? What it's saying to us,
splinters in your eyes mean that when you allow defiling things in, it's going to affect your
vision, which affects your rationale, the way you see things, the way you categorize things and
thorns in your sides, they force you towards things. It's uncomfortable. You move away from
thorns. In other words, the enemy can begin to push you into positions you don't want to be in
all because we allow defiling things. But I believe that God has got a land for you to live. And that's
what that scripture bears out. It says God has a land for you to live and this land is called
purity. Keep your 100 tribe. We have a special surprise right now. As promised, here is our
interview with Bob Hazelit. Hey, what's going on you guys? I got my great friend Bob Hazelit here.
We're just talking. I'm super excited to have you, Bob. You are amazing, bro. Well, thanks for
having me. I've been loving your podcast. I'm excited to be on it. Thanks for having me. Awesome.
I got questions for you. First question I want to ask you, Bob, is what part does heart purity
play in the prophetic? Oh my goodness. You went deep fast. I thought you would start with something
like, what's your favorite Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor, but prophetic. Okay. I mean,
it's pretty much everything. When I think of heart, I think of the soul. So purity,
you can go so many directions with that, couldn't you? You could think about moral purity. You could
think about integrity, purity. You could think about purity and the flow of how you present it.
So I would go all those places. It has to do with the place of your soul, because the place
that things get corrupted in us, it's not our spirit. It's the way that the prophetic is processed
to our soul. And I think a lot of us, when we think of the prophetic, we think, well, it's just like,
it comes from God and I just say it, but no, it goes through my mind. It goes through my emotions.
It goes through my creative imagination. And so I can't say stuff without it going,
processing through my soul. My soul's got to be clear and pure. So how do we bring purification
to the soul? I love it. The Bible says in James that when you receive the implanted word, it sozos
your soul. The word of God does something that it clears out the debris from my soul. And in the
time like we live in now where there's so much chatter and clutter in the world, the media
and social media, there's so many voices and everybody's voices speaking at once. And then
they're all at maximum volume, right? So easy to impact. So how can we be pure? I remember
in the Lord called me 20 years ago to prophetic ministry. I didn't even know what that meant.
I just knew he called me aside. And for nine months, I stepped out of my church and I had caught
up to three prophetic words that I would travel the world and be a voice for God, you know,
to the nations and bring revival. But I set aside everything for nine months and I just laid on the
floor and I just saw his face, you know? It was like a moment of cleansing of my soul. I didn't
watch TV. I didn't give up coffee. That's what I'm fine with. I wasn't legalism. It was just,
I was hungry. Like Jesus said, I got food you not not enough. You know, I got drink you know,
not enough. And I was just so hungry and thirsty for God. And I'm just telling this not to tell
somebody that they have to follow my process. But I remember after that nine months of spending time
with God 10, 12 hours a day in prayer, just in his presence, worship and just soaking, seeking his
face, walking up the mountains and talking to him. I remember when I stepped into a new ministry
position, I could then now release some of the things God taught me. I remember the first time
I went into a blockbuster video. Remember blockbuster videos? Oh yeah man. There was a time when you
had to go to a store and get a DVD and then you had rented, well, they were VHS. Come on,
midterm. Exactly, right? And then you could just download it. So I remember walking into that
blockbuster video and there was so much noise, visual noise, atmospheric noise. You know,
it was like every one of those movies was talking to me at once. I literally had to walk out and I
said, God, what is that? You know, is there should be demons in there? He's like, no. He's like, you
have sensitized your soul to me so that this clutter in this chatter, this outside noise seems so
foreign to you. Wow. Does that make sense to you? Like, so it wasn't that I was in an immoral place.
It wasn't that I was in an unentengrable place in my soul, in my heart, in my ministry. It was
just that I needed to quiet the chat, clutter down. And there's sometimes that stuff that you do. In
that moment, who's really God leading me into that season, but I have times still now where the Lord's
like, you just need to turn off the news for a while. You go off social media for a while just
to purify you. So I think it's important. I think it's everything, Sean, but because what is it,
James, is that you can't have, you know, water can't flow out of that place. We want a pure flow. So
I just, you know, those that are listening, you know, don't let this be legalism. Let this be love
that will motivate you to let the Word of God soar your soul and find those places where you find the
secret place because what God speaks to you is secret. Then, you know, he could shout it for the
mouse. Man, that does. And it's so powerful because we were just talking earlier about so much of the
seduction in this age is to move towards the platform before you go through the process.
And what I love, Bob, is what you're sharing is you're sharing your process that it's getting
alone. It's becoming still. Yeah. And it's relational. The thing about it was it wasn't like
I did that process so that I could get somewhere. It was, I mean, I knew where God said he was taking
me and I knew that there were things in my life that wouldn't make it, you know, and I had to
change the infrastructure in my life. I had to be strengthened before he could build that house.
But I think ultimately it was just relationship. I just wanted to be with him. And so like the
process is about relationship, particularly with prophets, you know, if you're called to prophetic
ministry, you're called to lead people too. And what does Ephesians one says? It says that pray
that God will give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation so that you can prophesy good prophecies.
Know that you would know him. I pray God will give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation so that you
might know him and then know the hope to which you're called. So we as people that are called to
bring the wisdom and the revelation of heaven are called to that so that we could know him so that
we could make others know. Testimony of Jesus is a spirit of prophecy. So every time I release
revelation, it should reveal something about God. And I can only release something about God if I
know something about God. If I have experienced myself. So that spirit of wisdom and revelation
came to me. So I want to know him, you know, so I can know him more. And I still find myself in
that place. I say it like this, you know, I spent nine months on the carpet and it was musty, nasty,
nasty, smelly carpet. And I know when I've gotten too far away from that place, when I can't smell
the musty carpet. And sometimes I'll just get on my floor in the hotel room and then I smell the
carpet. I just just want to smell the carpet again. Because if I lose that scent of that carpet, I've
lost a secret place, you know. And I really believe that there's a secret place for all of us. God
just somehow attached my secret place to a smell, you know what I mean? Yes. Because I'm, but I'm
still, I tell people, they're still part of me that's on that basement carpet floor. Still just
saying God, I just, I need more. And I think that's, but our hearts can get skewed. The world we live
in, it's, it's whacked out, man. And there's stuff out there. I can get caught up in the political
noise. I can get caught up in the cultural noise. But if I can get back to that car, say God, I just
want to start it again. Bob, dude, I love you, man. Final question, bro. If Jesus wanted, talks about
that the eyes of your understanding would be enlightened that you would know the hope of
where you're calling understanding there is kind of eyes of your imagination, eyes of your heart.
How do you develop the eyes of your heart to see and perceive? I think a lot of people would say,
hey, I feel like there could be like a seeer thing on me. Sometimes I get pictures,
but I feel fogged in or, or it's kind of hard or I only have moments of clarity. It kind of ebbs
more than it flows. So how do you develop the eyes of your heart? That's super good. And I haven't
done enough like study on that, those keywords other people have that I could really give you an
exposition of the scripture, but I'll just give you a practical way that it works for me because
I am a seer, but I tend to see more in the natural plane, not like a, not that she's angels. So I
look at John 1. Here's, here's a great place to look at you if you want to go and see from my
perspective. John 1, there's a story verse 43 to the end of the chapter, Jesus and the calling of
the thin. Right? That story. I saw you sitting under the fig tree. Like you're an Israelite in
whom there's nothing false. How do you know me? I saw you sitting under the fig tree. Whoa, you're
the king of Israel. He's like, yeah, but you think that's something you're going to see angels
sending into sending. So that tells us a couple of things about to see around. It's past, present,
future, right? It's natural plane, soulless realm of the person. And then spiritual plane,
all those dimensions, if you will, right? So I can see in the spirit into someone, I could see
around them and then I can see above them. And then I can see their past through God's perspective
and reframe their past with the been through. And then I can see into their present and give them
perspective and then I can see the future and predict and position them to step into it. I tend
to have a sort of sweet spot around seeing in the natural plane and being able to look panoramically
past through the future like that. I think the way I developed that is by asking questions. And so
does naturally I'm a see or I might see someone and say, I might be through that. Have an impression
they're creative. Then I ask a question, how they get to do creative through fashion. What kind of
fashion? Oh, vintage clothes, they're going to make those old clothes and make them new. You know,
what would they do that? They're going to put them on show. Why? Because they're going to prophesy
to them their identity and future. Where? Well, they're going to do that on a mission strip.
They go to this summer, Kenny. That exact thing happened to me, right? I spoke that to a 15 year
old girl in Germany and part of a group of friends came up to me the next day and said,
how did you know all this? Is this exactly what she does? She gets old clothes, she refashings them,
and then we're going on a mission strip to Kenya this summer. And I said, well, I think God just
told me and then one of them said, you're what's going on inside your head when you said this.
And that's when I realized I'm having a conversation with God all the time. It's just that I sometimes
make that conversation public. So good. Yeah. And so I think awareness, let me give you three
things that I've learned about. When you become aware of something, then it becomes available to
you. When it becomes available to you, then you have the authority to do something with. And so
right now, all around you are anxious. You can stop right now and like become aware or all around you
is somebody's potential death. You just have to see it. And when Jesus stopped and it says, and I
think it's verse 47 there, John 1, when Jesus saw it, that was it right there. That was game over
because as soon as he saw him, boom, he saw his potential, he saw who he was, his integrity, his
heart. Then he saw him sitting on the, he saw him. Wow. If we as prophetic people just stop and just
look at him, look at them the way God sees, then God makes things available to us that he wants to
do for them. Then we can sweep them and actually create this thing for them that God sees for them.
It's the best job in the world. I mean, I hope people just stop and become aware. And if you're
like me, like I say, I'm not the guy that stops and smells the roses. I'm the guy that tramples the
roses on the shortcut through the garden. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get somewhere quick,
but just stop. That's so what you see. Because there's a lot of the fan rules that God's put
across your path that day. And then they maybe have been just, they've been sitting under a fig tree,
waiting for a Messiah. And they can't even recognize when his path has passed by because
their heart has grown sick because of a hope deferred. And that's what happened in the end.
He sat on the fig tree. The fig tree was the place where Hebrew boys would intercede for the Messiah
to come. And he had seen so many fake Messiahs come by that he gave up hope. So his friend said,
hey, the Messiah's here. He's like, no way. Nothing good comes from that. And Jesus understood
that here's a heart that's grown sick, but I'm going to see him. Wow. And when Jesus saw him,
boom, shifted everything for that. That guy and a desire for filled a tree of life and all these
new things became available. Bob, you've written a book. Keep it 100 tribes. You love what you're
hearing here. He so goes into detail on the prophetic and the voice of God on thinking like
heaven, aligning ourselves with the mind of Christ. This is a profound book. You need to get it.
Let us know how we can get that book. Absolutely. Thanks for that plug. Yeah. You can grab it.
So my website is just my name, Bob, hazelitt, h, a, z, l, e, t, d, dot, org. And you can get the
book there. Yeah, we do have a passion. Our mission, Sean, is to raise up the next generation of voices
from every culture to go to every sector of society. Love that. So we do that through our online
school, Ascend Academy. We have raised up voices that are in media right now today. Wow. Voices
that are in government and business. And so really, that's just our passion is not just to
have voices for the church, but that people would discover the voice or define the voice of God,
define the business that they're called, the standard of culture. So thanks for having me,
man. It's a blast. Bob, man. Love you. Ooh, that was so good. What Bob said, that was incredible.
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