It has been proven as self-defense tactics and when being attacked, the first thing a
person loses is their voice.
When the attack finds their voice, it shifts the advantage to their position.
The enemy is silence woman for too long, guilt, shame, accusation, and intimidation.
In this hour, God is calling forth the other half of the army to release their role.
Meanwhile, heaven is summoning forth those who will champion the overlooked and under
regard.
In this episode of Keep 100, we will talk about what God is doing in women, the emerging
generation of esters and devils near the pioneering prophetic voices of city changers.
We are so looking forward to the topic about women being released in this hour because
we are an ester and a debra time, so this topic hits home for me personally.
So I'm so excited to dive into it, but before we do, I want to talk about how fun was Thanksgiving
this last week.
It was amazing.
It's always great to get together with family, especially I think against the backdrop that
this has been one of those unique years where we've been separated and all this kind of
stuff, but it's good just to have a meal, love on family.
We had three generations present and it was just awesome.
It was awesome.
And you know, it just got me all the more excited because it's been such a time of quarantine.
I know every state's different, but California has just been the lockdown since March pretty
much and we've gone back into lockdown recently.
And so, you know, it just, it felt so nice to be with family and just connect and have
that quality time and just enjoy each other.
That's right.
Well, I'm ready to dive in.
You want to dive in?
Let's dive in.
It's funny, Christa, I saw this interview with this amazing lady and I just want to
share with you, keep it 100 listeners.
About three weeks ago, I don't know if you know this history was made by the Florida
Marlins of Major League Baseball.
They hired Kim Ng, an Asian American as the first woman hired as a general manager by
any major professional men's teams in North American sports.
That was trailblazing.
Oh my goodness.
That is powerful.
You know, I love it.
I love it when I see women push through barriers and really break through and really show us,
you know, women can do so many different things and think there doesn't have to be a barrier
in the areas of football or baseball or other sports because women are incredible sports
too.
So what a breakthrough.
I love that for her.
And listening to that interview, you could tell that this lady was very accomplished
and that she's going to be a benefit to that organization.
They're going to love to have her.
And she even in her kind of interview, she alluded to the fact of how proud she was
as a woman and of other women who are shattering glass ceilings so that future generation of
young girls won't have to worry that their dreams aren't achievable.
You know, I love those celebrations and I think we're going to only continue to see
more and more women shattering ceilings and breaking through previous barriers because
we are in the day and the hour at this time where God is anointing women to rise up like
never before.
But it's interesting that whenever God highlights and puts his hand on a people group, you know,
specifically women in this episode, that's what we're focused on.
There's often backlash on the other side of that.
So as we're seeing women get released, we're also seeing the kickback and the clapback
for against women at this time.
And you know, we all remember about a year ago, there was a prominent male pastor who
really made some offensive remarks against a well-known female Bible teacher.
And during that time, we just saw this narrow mindedness kind of kick in of someone that
is of prominent status and has quite an influence on a platform and the mocking that attitude
and belief system about women was put on such display.
It really, it really shocked me as a woman.
I thought, oh my word.
And not only was there mocking to this day and here's here, I do want to just add a caveat
before I continue.
I believe in transformation, I believe that someone can always change, but at this point
of time, there hasn't been a repentance or hasn't been any remorse or change of mind
from the previous comments.
And so it just reminded me that as God is highlighting, the enemy often wants to kick
back who God is anointed in the hour.
It's so true.
And he told her to go home.
And I was, I was grieved by that, but I was particularly impressed by the female Bible
teacher, just how she forgave, she took the high road and it was just really amazing to
see that she wasn't deterred by that.
She's still encouraging people in the body of Christ.
I love her ministry.
I really have received from her and really been impacted by what God has given to this
amazing woman of God.
You know, a great example of this is in Acts 10.
Peter had a difficult time in the whole aspect of allowing Gentiles to come to the table.
But in Acts chapter 10, he has a revelation and God told him to eat something.
He says, no, no, no, God, that's unclean.
And so all of a sudden God, as often when God begins to highlight people groups, he's
got to deal with those old modalities.
He's got to deal with fixed mindsets and religious habits.
And he told him to eat something that Peter would find unclean.
And God told Peter, do not call unclean what I've called clean.
In other words, don't put a label on something just because of your tradition.
And the cool thing is God poured his spirit out on Gentiles.
And Peter was the one to say, who are we to keep these from being water baptized now?
In other words, they're just as much a part of the church and ready to contribute as any
of us Jews.
And so I thought that was huge that we already see this in the book of Acts.
It's so true because I think Peter is such an incredible example as we stay connected
to the spirit of God.
God is at times going to throw away our comfort zone, even our preconceived notions of how
he does something or who he's ministering through.
And I believe we are once again in that hour, even now, in the church today, even within
our nation, where we have to be dialed into a Holy Spirit saying because he works in ways
that are not our ways.
His ways are higher.
Isaiah 55 talks about this.
And when he does things different, we often seem surprised.
But the truth is we all know God's always going to do things outside the box because
he's not limited to our systems or even our preconceived notions.
You know, the awesome thing or the silver lining to that verbal attack we were referring
to earlier by that prominent male pastor against this amazing female Bible teacher is that
there were so many that came to her defense and so many male pastors, theologians and
others that really underscored from Scripture and from their hearts, just championing women.
It just really excited me just to hear that.
Let me talk about women, it's very interesting, Christa, because at the Global Prophetic Summit
where you and I got a chance to share a main session that was hosted by Cindy Jacobs, you
had a prophetic word about ministry.
Would you share with our Keep It 100 tribe what was the prophetic download that God gave
you about women in this season?
You know, the Lord really downloaded to me that with this statement, and this is how
he dropped it in my spirit, he said, these are the days of Esther.
That's what the Lord said to me.
And I said, okay, Lord, what do you mean by that?
And then he showed me that there's been a spirit of Haman that's been released on this
nation.
And when I began to understand and study Haman and I had some, a dear family friend of ours
send us some notes that she had on Haman.
And I was just blown away by the research of understanding what Haman's name actually
means.
It means multiple things, but a few things that I found really interesting was the name
Haman actually means disorder, unrest.
And then the wife is Zoresh, which was Haman's wife.
Her name meant misery and strange, and then Haman had 10 sons.
And I won't go through the meaning of all 10 sons names, but just for an example, one
of his sons names meant sneaky interpreter of the law.
Another was arrogant, sexual perversion, and the list goes on and on.
And we see this demonic agenda that's been unleashed in the nation and the Lord showed
me we're in the days of Esther because as the Haman agenda has been released, it was
the Esther in the Bible that stood up and overturned the agenda of Haman.
And we are once again in that hour in this nation at this time where God is again highlighting
the Esther saying, come on, Esther's arise and take your position, take authority because
of what you walk in and who you are for this hour to overturn the Haman spirit is the Esther
arising at this time.
And what was really cool was the Lord then showed me a picture of a table and there was
all these people are on the table and the Lord cleared the table and he created space
between chairs front and center in the middle of the table and he put two chairs forward
and put two African American women in those chairs and the Lord said, tell the African
American women, I am highlighting their voice where they haven't previously been heard.
They're going to be heard now.
I'm amplifying their voice in this hour and God is going to raise up African American
women to be used as esters in this hour to overturn the Haman spirit.
They are a key carrier of what God is doing in this time.
But I want to encourage women of all races, of all ages, of all socioeconomic statuses.
I want you to know God is raising up women so women get ready because lids are getting
removed, ceilings are getting broken through and walls are coming down, barriers are evaporating
because God is doing something with women in this hour and you are part of it.
I love that boo, that is amazing.
Well, keep your 100th tribe.
We have a special, special interview round table talk with Cindy Jacobs.
I am so excited about today's episode because we have the incredible Cindy Jacobs with us.
We love her.
We're honored to be able to call her spiritual mama in our life.
Today I just want to talk to you about a really important conversation.
It's about women and women in this hour that are being used so significantly.
I want you to speak to what you feel like God is doing with women today in this hour
2020 because we are seeing God highlight women at this time.
Yes, really interesting listeners.
Some of you may know a bit of US history but it took like 88 years for women to get the
right to vote, the suffrage movement.
Then we see what Jesus did for women.
I was writing my book, Women Rise Up.
I just began to notice that Jesus had women in his troop.
No rabbi did that.
I remember reading this thing where if a rabbi saw his wife in the market and she touched
him, like his ropes, he'd be unclean.
He'd have to ceremonially.
His own wife.
Yeah, his own wife.
Oh my.
Yeah, so we've come a long way.
So glad we don't live in that.
Yeah, you too.
Like Jesus.
Toast.
You would totally be toast.
He'd be always having to cleanse ceremonially, whatever that was, sacrifice a lamb or something.
I don't know.
But Jesus did more for women.
I mean, there's a reason women were the last at the cross and the first at the tomb.
So good.
Come on, Mama Cindy.
Because there was nobody like Jesus for us.
I mean, Jesus lived in a time where they prayed a prayer every day that, thank God, I'm not
what was a dog or a woman or something like that.
Oh my.
Yeah, and their prayers.
Right.
So Mary could sit at the feet of Jesus and learn from the rabbi.
All these things that we just think, I had no big deal.
She was breaking societal norms.
Yeah, but today, we are seeing women fight human trafficking.
We know all these ones, Sharon Nye in Hollywood.
I mean, I have a friend in Mexico, Rosie Roscoe.
She'll call me, well, I got a death threat today.
I'm riding around in her bulletproof car thinking, oh my goodness, if the Mexican mafia is going
after her, I'm in the car.
No, I mean, we have amazing women.
Amazing.
Yeah, but the new generation that's rising up is more, I mean, fearless.
Oh yeah.
So true.
Yeah, yeah.
We were talking about the new Wonder Women, but I mean, it's true, really.
And the signs and wonders, no matter whatever you want to say, we were talking about the
stories of Deborah and the Bible.
You know, Deborah was a judge when, you know, women weren't, you have to understand women
were nothing, they couldn't own property.
Why?
They were nothing.
No inheritance.
Yeah, no livelihood unless provided for by a man.
Yeah, the husband could literally put their things outside the door and they were divorced
and she ruled the nation.
Incredible.
Yeah, so you have to, yeah.
Understand the historical projects.
Yeah, that's one way you study the Bible, studying the history of the time to understand
what was going on.
So, I remember, you know, when I was first preaching, I was preaching one time at a conference.
I mean, I'll never forget I was on the board of March for Jesus and this man stood up
in the middle of my preaching and began to scream that I was a heretic, you know.
Oh my God.
I mean, he's just yelling at me, you know, and got up and marched off, you know.
And I mean, I didn't try to have an altercation with him or whatever.
Sure, yeah.
And I just picked up where I left off.
We have to do that.
If Satan wants to cause us to get into diversion, like to divert us from our path or to wound
our soul, you know, as women, then the devil wins.
Don't be ridiculous, you know.
I mean, and if you're ever going to be a great leader, you know, sorry guys, you know, you're
hitchhiking a little bit on this conversation, but if you're ever going to be a great leader,
you know, rejection, the possibility for rejected could be your daily bread.
Don't eat it.
Whoa.
Don't eat it.
Oh my goodness.
You know, you have got to decide, okay, if somebody doesn't say hello to you and you
get offended, you're never going to survive when the press comes after you.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, because they start like slamming you on multiple levels, you know, the secular
press particularly, and, you know, cutting and pasting what you've said to make you look
like an idiot, you know.
I mean, that's happened to me, but you've got to, it's a test for you.
One time I was preaching in a nation and I had just been there and they asked me to
come back and do this big outdoor meeting.
You know, I got there and I was, I had my sermon that's ready to preach and the pastors
decided I couldn't preach that night.
They're going to let a man preach.
So they put this guy up before me, but they said, oh, but you could pray for the sick.
So I came up afterwards.
I mean, the blind saw like this guy's had a huge metal plate.
It turned him on.
Jesus.
Crossed eyes, restraining him.
And I, when I went in, I, you know, I was having a pity party.
I was crying, I said, Lord, I know you gave me this message.
And, and you know, he said, this isn't a test for them, Cindy Jacobs.
This is a test for you.
Can you rejoice that he could preach better?
You know, can you rejoice and bless your brother?
It was like, oh, you know, I had to get my attitude right.
I'm thinking I paid my way.
I'm so tired.
I just came back around and did this and, and then God gave me all of that.
He didn't tell me.
I didn't even know I was going to be up on that platform at all.
Right.
You know, but it was a test.
He was trying to grow me up and filter out that ego.
Yeah.
You know, where it's like, okay, you know, you don't get the opportunity to preach
tonight, but I still want you to minister.
I still want you to pour out and you have that crossroad moment where you're like, do
I get offended?
And do I allow the enemy to rob this opportunity from me?
Or do I just go, you know what, Lord, I'm grateful for the opportunity, whatever it
looks like.
And however I can pour it.
And however I can love on people, I'll take that and refuse to get caught up in the, maybe
the people's inability to see what you carry and just be like, Hey, you know, God's the
one that releases my anointing.
Whether a door opens and shuts in the natural is irrelevant to what I carry.
Yeah.
And so, doesn't define me.
Yeah.
That exactly those defining key moments where you don't let their stuff define you.
I think for me, I'm watching kind of the scape of the nation and really in a sense, because
we're on a global pause, we're getting more of an opportunity to see globally what's going
on, but I'm going to specifically speak to America.
I'm seeing women more than ever be raised up and highlighted in this hour and specifically
even women of color.
I'm going to include white women in that because I don't want to be excluded, but I also recognize
I really want to come alongside and whatever I can do to help release women of color.
I think that's so significant in this hour with what God's doing, but women in general,
we're talking to talked about Deborah, a judge in the nation Esther, who was just a person
in the Bible in the word that just so displayed a humility that she walked in a favorite influence
and she put everything online for her people and her generation to not only be delivered,
but for the cause of the Lord and the plans of the Lord to go forth and her life was one
that helped push them forward.
I'm seeing God raise up the Debra's.
I'm seeing God raise up the esters of this generation for this hour at this time because
we're such a pivotal time in history, but the esters didn't happen without the mordecai.
And I believe there is a women's movement that's arising, but that's not to exclude
men.
So some men might be listening to you and going, man, this is just about women.
I believe God's called men and women and there are seasons and times prophetically in history
where we look at them and maybe a man was the forerunner at that time, but women were
still very key and still very much a key part of what God was doing.
And I believe that this time in history, women are forefront and leading, but men are still
very much a part of what God is doing.
And I believe when we recognize in a sense who has anointing in the moment, doesn't mean
men don't have an anointing, of course they do, they always will, right?
Because they're so valuable.
But I also recognize God is highlighting women.
And I really see at times when God begins to highlight a group, right?
And specifically, I'm saying women of color and I'm going somewhere with this.
And that is the reality of when God highlights a people group or a specific vein, so to speak,
the enemy often brings a counterfeit version of that.
And I've seen that very much with some different voices that have arisen at this hour.
We're seeing that God voices arise, but we're also seeing the counterfeit voices.
I'd love for you to speak to that when we're seeing a women's movement.
I'm also seeing the counterfeit version of what women think is freedom, what women think
is being unhinged or untamed is a word that's being thrown out there right now for women
and for them to find them true selves.
And I'm seeing a lot of women make decisions that are walking away from God, all with the
narrative that they're speaking of.
I'm living out the who God called me to be, but it's very much in defiance of their God
identity.
And it's a false liberation of women.
And I want you to speak to that because I feel like we're seeing this real God of move
and then this real counterfeit liberation of women that are very much walking in a counterfeit
version of their identity as a prophet.
What do you say to that?
What do you speak to that?
Well, you know, I think it's part of it as identity.
Yeah.
Like, I don't, it's what filter you're looking through.
Like, I don't see it as my choice to board a child.
You know, it's, that's not a choice because God gave life.
My choice is to be a vessel that can bring someone that could be a significant person
to change the face of the earth.
You know, you think about there's somebody inside of me, okay, you know, the most horrible
thing maybe happened to me.
You know, I've met people who were a child of rape or whatever and they're up changing
things there.
So I think, I think it's very important to have perspective in that, you know, and I
think it's like when you have to say it's my choice, when you have to say it's like
part of living the Christ like life is saying, okay, my body is a temple of God.
You know what I mean?
It's not about me, you know, because realizing God always wants the best for us.
Women in the bad times, but yet releasing, realizing as women that we have a voice that
matters because God created us.
You know, we have a voice against injustice.
We have a voice that speaks to eradicate systemic racism, systemic poverty, human trafficking
and women are rising up in these areas.
The advocacy, the abolitionists.
Yeah, activism against pedophilia.
Yes.
And activism.
And these, I think, you know, it's not that men don't do this, but you know, I think within
every woman, whether you've ever been married or whether you've ever had kids, God put a
mother's heart in all of us.
You know, we see these kids being abused or whatever and we want to take care of them.
And I think also allowing women of color to have a platform is so important because in
God's economy and God's purpose, he made a beautiful flower garden.
He sees color, he loves color.
I hate it when white people say, oh, I don't see color.
Then you're saying God made a mistake making this person.
And you don't see them.
Yeah, you don't see them.
You don't see them.
God loves cafe au lait or whatever.
I love that.
That's great.
That's kind of like you, Sean.
Well, you're this beautiful cafe au lait color.
I received it.
I love that.
I saw this picture of the Sudanese modeling.
She's like the blackest model on the earth that she was stunning.
I don't know if it's our picture.
Yeah, beautiful.
But yeah, and I think that for the women in the white community, it's time for us, like
you said, let's be champions.
You know, we were having dinner just last night, hard to believe, but with Ed Savoso
and he said that talking about all the women that were immigrant women, you know, like
Esther was an immigrant.
That's right.
So Deborah lived in an occupied country, things like that.
Those are the ones God's highlighted.
Yes.
He says like, you have value.
You're important.
And I want to speak to you, you know, as a listener, you have value.
You are important.
And you know, whatever you are, red, yellow, brown, black and white.
But if we can speak to the, if you let me, I am white, but speak to the white community,
you know, let's be champions.
Let's look around and value people of colors, boys.
You know, just like you were saying.
Yeah.
I remember Cora Berry was the mayor of Washington, DC's wife, Mary and Barry.
And so she, we went to Anacostia, DC, myrtle capital, you know, this nation at that time.
And she says, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to take you on a journey.
So she took us to the home of Frederick Douglass.
And you know, he was such a freedom fighter.
Maybe I don't know who Frederick Douglass was.
First black in Congress, you know, and stuff like that.
You know, it's like she, I really, I had so much to learn from her.
And I needed to be willing to submit to what she knew.
That's right.
One thing that we can do as white people, whether we realize it or not, is we talk down
to other people in other communities.
You know, it's like we're in this paternalistic kind of zone.
You know, if you ever watch the movie, the hell, you know, that's so it, you know.
And let me talk to you listening, you know, whether you're a guy and, you know, my husband
has been such an advocate for me.
Yes.
You know, of course, you know, I remember one time, the first time I was on the cover
of Cruzma Magazine, I think it was 1994.
And the editor then told me that all they'd have to do is put women in ministry in the
same sentence and they'd get bags of hate mail, you know.
So just by putting me on the cover, they took a risk of all this pushback and all this hate
mail and they knew what they were doing.
You know, it was an article, the ladies in general.
But Mike, I mean, even to this day, if we get bad, you know, tons of bad emails or occasionally
we get still letters, hard copy.
But you know, my son or my husband, man, they're out there.
I never even see those things.
Right.
You don't need to say it.
They totally deal with that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Come on, Mike and Daniel.
Yeah, exactly.
Fight for your mom and your wife.
I think it's great to find people we can be an advocate for.
That's right.
I mean, whenever I have to say a word, just come alongside of them and listen to their
stories and applaud them, celebrate them, you know, give them dignity and strength, you
know, and let them be in the highlight and not you.
I love that.
I think that's such a reflection as we're calling this 21st century Deborah and Esther's
that it says in Judges 5, it speaks of the state of the times and it says they chose
new gods, though much like today people are choosing gods of money, gods of sexuality,
gods of Eastern mysticism.
It says that there was essentially violence.
It says that people abandoned life in the streets and is speaking of the violence.
It says that there was war in the gates, which gates in that time was leadership.
So they were saying that there were voids in leadership.
And then it says that essentially there wasn't a weapon possessed by God's people.
So they felt in the midst of that, how can I even fight this battle?
And it says all these things existed until I, Deborah arose a mother in Israel.
I think it's so powerful to think that even at times like this, if someone could be listening
and they may not feel like they have the platform that the two of you have, they may feel like,
hey, I'm stuck at home watching kids, which by the way is the ultimate profession.
They may feel like, hey, I'm just working this job and I'm kind of a wage earner trying
to make it happen.
There may be single moms, divorce moms, young single gals.
And yet you have a position to be a mother and an influencer.
I think it was Henrietta Mears who was never married, never had kids.
She impacted two of the greatest soul-wintering impactful vessels of the modern era.
At the same time, she added a force lawn house.
She had Bill Bright who founded Campos Cusay for Christ and had Billy Graham and launched
them both.
And here was a woman that they said to her, if you continually try to read, you're going
to go blind.
She says, well, then I want to be, I want to go blind reading the truth because she studied
the word.
And I just think what a legacy and how wrong it is, I think for the good old boys club
to not acknowledge, we need the other side of the army.
If we're going to see a third grade awakening, we can't have half the army on mute.
We need the daughters of Zion Roar.
And so I'm so glad that we're talking about this issue.
I love that.
That's so powerful.
You know, in a time where we are seeing God highlight women and there's such a, I feel
like a battle for the identity of women at this hour.
I think that's why there's been such an agenda with the counterfeit versus what God's doing.
I'm seeing a poll over so many women and women that I know have walked with God and love
God.
And there's been like a seduction I've seen in this hour at this time where they've just
taken this counterfeit, very liberal women's movement agenda and it's like, God loves women.
He's releasing women, but there's a sanctified God identity version of what he's doing at
this hour.
That's true, Christian.
That's true.
And how can we speak to the identity of women at this time?
Because when I asked you the question earlier, your instant response was, it's the identity.
It's the identity.
How can we speak to as women that place of identity where that seduction is broken, that
enticement to a false narrative isn't enticing?
How can we as women of God speak to that place in women's hearts?
Well, you know, again, a lot of times, like if you're really called to justice or make
things right, if you don't have the Bible really as your anchor, if you don't believe
it really is the Word of God, then you say, okay, well, I can only make things right by
going to being four people who want to have an abortion, being four people who want to
choose whatever sexual identity they want to.
And so I think it's really being so rock solid in who you are and realizing that God is the
bringer of justice and that He will help us bring justice in ways we cannot imagine or
dream.
And also knowing what you're supposed to do to bring justice.
I think that that's really important.
I've always known that I was to be a champion for the next generation coming after me as
a woman.
I remember I told a group of young women, I began to tell them stories of things that
happened to me and different things along the way.
And I said, look, don't waste this opportunity.
I really suffered.
Right.
Open these doors for you.
Right.
So don't be silent.
That's good.
Don't mess it up.
Don't just choose.
Cause you're spot for this.
Yeah.
Yeah, I fought for this for you.
I look at the young women at Bethel or Chase, you know, at Harvest International Ministries,
H-I-M, or these different movements, Jesus' culture.
And I just thought, they don't even have to think a second as a woman, but they have a
right to be on that platform.
Right.
It never enters their mind.
Every time I stood on that platform for years, I realized there were the probabilities there
were people out there that hated it.
You know what I was saying?
I mean, I was preaching in Ireland a few years ago, and when they heard I was going to preach
and be there, I was, you know, walked out on too.
The pastors in Wales came in and talked to my host and uninvited me to the pastor's prayer
gathering.
Oh my.
You know, I mean, ask, came and said, please don't bring Cindy Jacobs to this gathering.
Oh my.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, so, you know, it's like, I have a choice in that moment.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have a choice.
But the thing is, I know that there are going to be women in Wales.
There are going to be an incredible voice for revival.
You know, we're talking about your roots.
You know, you have some whatever Scottish, whatever, you know.
Yeah, Scottish and Irish, yep.
Yeah.
And they were the reformers.
Yes.
You know, St. Patrick and all that.
Yes.
You know, but I think that you have to be rock solid, what you're called to do.
That's right.
Yeah.
And if your identity isn't in Christ, you waiver, you get offended.
We can't walk around.
A woman with an offended spirit defiles so many people.
Yes.
You know, Hebrews 12, I think it is, it talks about how a bitter root defiles.
And you know, if you have this agenda, this, you know, chip on your shoulder, I hate men
or men are always stopping me.
Well, you know, then when you preach, it's going to leak out of you.
You know, when you talk to people, it's going to leak out of you.
That's so good.
Yeah.
And so you just can't have that.
Yeah.
You can't be a hater.
So true.
I mean, just can't be, you know.
And I feel like for women in their area of identity is so key, especially in this hour,
what voices are you listening to?
Who are you allowing to speak into your life?
And in this time of COVID, and I know every state is different, California is still very
closed.
You're obviously from Texas.
It's not as closed.
And in a time of isolation and what feels as a time of disconnect, because a lot of people's
community is still online, the spiritual family, church families is still meeting online, still
not meeting the person.
I've noticed this kind of regression of women and their identity in God.
And there's a narrative they're hearing from the news or from social media or from different
media outlets where they are basically repeating what's being dictated to them versus, I can
tell there's an absence of the previous God voices in their life.
And I feel like when we're speaking to at this hour, because really I'm speaking to
this time in our nation, we're such a pivotal time, God's highlighting women.
He's raising up the Debra's.
He's raising up the esters at this time.
He's raising up women of influence to bring freedom, to bring kingdom justice.
But the voices that you allow in your life at this hour, to me, have never been more
important.
And because there is such a disconnect in the natural, but what a perfect time to connect
in the spirit because things have slowed down.
There's a time to reflect in this hour when life has gotten a little less busy, maybe for
some.
But I feel like God's inviting us into this place of intimacy because he's setting us
up for what we're to carry.
And this hour, whom you're allowing to speak into your life is so, so, so important.
And so I feel like even for some listeners, you've gone back to some old voices.
You've gone back to some people that you knew previously, God's like, hey, that's not the
voice I've called you to have speak into your life.
And you've removed some God influences and you've brought in some old, familiar things
because you have felt the instability and the insecurity of the time.
And often when we feel insecure and stable, we go back to what's familiar.
And I felt like God's like breaking the familiar and still going to the unknown with God.
And I feel like there's an invitation for the God voices to reconnect in your life right
now because I feel like if we're speaking to identity, there has to be times where people
are reminding you of who you are and what you carry and who God is in your life and
in you.
I know for me that's been pivotal as a woman.
So at this hour, again, I'm just speaking to this Cindy and I'm just kind of picking
your brain because you're a prophet and I want to know what the prophets are saying,
right?
So I'm taking advantage of this moment.
And I feel like because women are being highlighted, what is the greatest asset of being a woman
of God in this hour?
Well, we're 11.
You know, I mean, just like a woman cooks, you know, like cook or anybody really, that's
kind of a sexist remark, I'm sure.
But you know, makes bread, you know, and it causes it to rise.
You know, I'm determined wherever I am, I'm at 11.
Wow.
Okay.
When I walk into a place, the atmosphere of God comes in there.
That's true.
That is true.
Yeah.
Do that.
Yeah.
And I mean, some of you are listening, you know, I remember when I would listen to this
kind of talk, I just think, could that ever be me?
I mean, it really wasn't a lot from women in my early days, but just people talking about
making a difference.
You know, and I remember just burning, wanting to do something.
And I mean, it was, it was just, I want to say to you what God told me.
The Lord said, I know where you live.
Wow.
And I don't waste anything.
That's okay.
Like, I realized, I remember when I was 30, you know, I didn't preach when I was 30.
And I got, God called me when I was nine and I thought, wow, you know, you didn't even
let me go to Bible school.
You know, it's like, okay, you know, maybe that was all just, I was weirding out or something.
You know, that was a really God calling me or all that, you know, and then God hit the
go button, you know, God has two speeds, weight and fast forward.
You know, it goes, nothing happens.
And then you're going so fast, it scares you.
That's so good.
But I want to say to you, God is putting that burning desire in your heart.
You know, when we're talking about being advocate for people of color or women, it's just loving
people.
It's not hard.
It's not rocket science, you know.
It's just loving like Jesus loves.
So, you know, I just want to pray for you as a listener.
And I just want to say to you, this is like God reaching out to you right now and saying
your life has value.
I created you for destiny.
I created you for good.
You're not a mistake.
You know, whatever it is, you know, God is going to see you get to your destination.
Come on.
What's the greatest challenge for women in this hour?
Well, you know, I think believing in yourself.
Yeah.
You know, it's like...
So true.
Somehow it seems like women get so beat down.
Yeah, I know.
The Bible is really hard on themselves.
Yeah.
The Bible says, love others, just you love yourself.
You know, and I just find a lot of times women, you know, either they go two directions,
either they're a shoe ho, like, you know, or they want to pin a penny on themselves,
you know what I mean?
Right.
It's like finding that place, you know, a balance or, you know, where you really do
you love yourself.
Yeah.
If you can't love yourself, you're not going to love anybody else.
For sure.
Yeah, I've really, in the early days trying to bring women together, it was really hard.
Yeah.
I couldn't get them to see the value of coming together.
I couldn't see, like, you know, men would have all these meetings, men in leadership,
and the women just didn't show.
And I was really upset with them.
But then I got over myself.
And I just realized that sometimes there are things that just seem to press you down and
press you back.
And so, you're listening, again, we say, this is a God moment for you.
God wants you to believe in yourself, but in a healthy way, not to be selfish and say
it's about me, again, my body, my choice.
No, it's about becoming a vessel that God can use and living for others.
Yeah.
You know, if you live for others, God will see your needs are met.
That's so good.
I love, you know, that movie, What Women Want With Mel Gibson.
I remember watching that and he had this insight because obviously he had the ability, you
know, kind of a silly movie, but I really liked it.
And he did a Nike pitch.
And in the Nike pitch, he's like, women are really hard on themselves.
He's like kind of doing the brainstorming session for this pitch.
He's like, women are really hard on themselves.
They live in a place of regret.
They're always worrying.
They second guess themselves.
And as I'm watching the movie, I'm like, we do do that, right?
It was just like watching a movie.
And then it sounds funny, but from that point, from watching that movie, this is years ago
because this movie is old.
And I remember making a conscious decision at that point.
I'm going to stop being so hard on myself.
I'm going to stop living in a place of regret.
I'm going to stop second guessing myself.
And like you said, actually believing that I am who God says I am, not from a place of
perfection, not because I always nail it, but because the grace and the kindness of God,
he covers my shortcomings and he uses my shortcomings to teach me more about him.
But God's not looking for me to be perfect.
He's looking for me to be available.
And when I become available and I just have a yes in my life, I actually believe who God
says I am, I am.
And that for women, I think is so key because we're talking about identity.
We're talking about being the Deborah, being the Esther.
They both had to pass through those challenges they had within themselves of self-doubt and
worry.
I mean, he even talks about an Esther.
I mean, she was afraid.
I mean, Mordeka had to challenge her to actually go before the king.
She's like, are you crazy?
I could die.
And he's like, hey, if you don't do it, someone else is going to do a Esther.
And then she realizes, okay, if I die, I die.
If I perish, I perish.
Like, I'm going to go ahead and just live my life for God fully.
He's put me in this position of influence.
And she actually believed in that moment she could be the one that could change the course
of history.
And I think she's such an incredible picture of not necessarily doing it because she was
the most confident person in the world or had it all together or had the right resume.
Hardly.
It was quite the opposite.
She was afraid.
She's orphaned.
She's an immigrant.
She is not of the right, a people group.
Everything in the natural was kind of working against her.
But because she believed the word of God over her life and she actually believed she could
be a deliverer, she actually believed she could be used by God, boom.
Right when we actually step into a place of agreement with God, you spoke this over my
life and I'm actually going to take you at face value and say, okay, Lord, if you said
it, it's true.
That's when we see things begin to shift in our family, in our marriages, of our kids,
our home, our coworkers.
Your sphere of influence, I want to speak to the listeners, your sphere of influence
begins to shift when you come into agreement with who God says you are.
Cindy, you've walked to this so well and the obstacles you had to go through repeatedly
in your life.
And I know the listeners are just getting this little tiny snippet of these little windows
into your stories, but the persecution, the accusations, the people that have risen up
against you and yet you have stayed sweet in the spirit.
Yet you have stayed a lover of people even when people have spoken against you.
Even when the accuser has risen up, you've loved and you've stood your ground, you haven't
wavered and you've refused to be offended and then God's used you because you've just
believed God, you call me a prophet, you got to call me a voice and that's changed everything.
And I know there's women listening today that are like, how can I be a part of Cindy's
ministry, how can I get to know more when she's doing check her out?
Yougenerals.org.
And I just want to say thank you for battling through and for not giving up, staying the
course because truly our lives have benefited from it.
Thanks for coming today.
We love you.
Yeah, thank you.
It's been so much fun.
Love you all.
Love you listeners too.
Wow, was that powerful?
Cindy's always incredible.
That woman is absolutely amazing.
She's been such a champion of women and she continues to be such a leader and a release
of women for this hour.
I really love her vulnerability and her transparency and her heart just for people that others
overlook.
I think it was amazing.
Well, as always, Keep Your 100 Tribe, we have our Keep Your 100 takeaways.
In this episode, we want to give you two points on the significance of partnering with the
emerging women's movement.
It's so important to partner with this women's movement because Jesus partnered with women.
Jesus was very counterculture in his affirmation of women.
It was women who were first that came to the tomb who were the first to see the resurrected
Jesus.
That's true.
These women were the first to be entrusted with the news that he had been raised from
the dead.
And N.T. Wright says Mary Magdalene and the others are actually the apostles to the apostles.
I love that.
We have to be reminded.
In Jesus's earthly ministry, he used the example of the widow giving her mites to rebuke
self-righteousness and even religious leaders.
He honored the woman who broke the alabaster box.
He also included the women as characters in his parables of the lost coin, the unjust
judge and the 10 bridesmaids when we find a Matthew.
And Jesus even affirmed the woman who was unceremonally unclean, the woman with the issue
of blood.
We find that in Luke.
And then he forgave and he restored the dignity of the woman caught in the act of adultery.
Why?
Because Jesus has always loved women, valued women, empowered them, brought their dignity
back, but also always called out the voice of who women are.
And he's doing that today.
He is.
He really is doing it.
You can see that.
The second and our last point in the significance of partnering with the emerging women's movement
is really twofold.
And it's simply this, with some exceptions, and I want to emphasize some exceptions,
the church has exchanged our place as the socially progressive force for a culturally
backwards one as it relates to this position on the issue of women rising up to the position
of influence.
It seems like culture has led the way when we as Christ followers, we should be the
ones leading the way.
We can be better in championing women as Jesus did.
So let's regain our position as trailblazers and pioneers of the kingdom, recognizing who
God has poured his spirit on.
Because if you really think about it, it doesn't seem right to utilize the gifting of women
without releasing their voice.
Come on, say that.
We release women to teach Bible classes.
They're teaching kids ministry, they're organizing their service, fellowship events, managing
day-to-day operations.
And the majority of missionaries are women.
But often when it comes to directional decisions, in some spaces women are excluded.
And let me just say, God's daughters being included in all levels of leadership is no
longer an option.
It's biblical.
It's culturally necessitated and it's required for the church's future.
We need the full body to have a full impact.
And I want to leave you guys with a quote by Gordon Fee, who is the professor emeritus
of the New Testament at Regent College.
Here is Gordon Fee's quote.
It seems like a sad commentary on the church and on this understanding of the Holy Spirit
that quote, unquote, official leadership and ministry is allowed to come from only one
half of the community of faith.
The New Testament evidence is that the Holy Spirit is gender inclusive, gifting both men
and women and thus potentially setting the whole body free for all the parts to minister.
And I would add to that, we must be reminded and encouraged.
The prophet Joel said before there would be multitudes, multitudes in the valley of
decision, which I believe will be a day of harvest.
He prophesied God will pour out his spirit on sons and daughters.
And I'm excited to be in that day where we are seeing God pouring out his spirit on
sons and daughters.
Keep it 100 tribe as we close this week's episode.
We pray and our hope is that you are not only encouraged and reminded of who you are as a
woman of God, that if you're a guy listening to this episode, know that this includes you
too.
Esther was not Esther without the mordecai.
We are in the days of esters.
Therefore, the esters and the mordecais are arising.
I believe this includes the whole body of Christ.
So men, if you have women in your life, begin to call out who they are in Christ Jesus and
women begin to call out one another and remind each other that God is anointing us for this
hour and your voice is valuable because this is the moment that we are going to overturn
the Haman agenda in our nation.
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