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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100 with Sean and Christa Smith.
Hey all our peeps, how you guys doing?
You guys, can you believe, I was just thinking about this, I think we started this in 2020.
We're like two and a half years into this podcast.
Is that right Sean?
It is true and we eclipsed over 200,000 downloads in 84 different nations.
And there's a thing that evaluates downloads.
It puts us in the top 1% globally in podcast.
But as I've said to my friends, I'm not trying to break our arms, pat us on the back.
I actually think there's so many bad podcasts out there that helps our cause.
That's probably it.
That's super funny.
We just want to thank you for being a part of the Keep It 100 tribe, for downloading,
for sharing.
So many of you shout out on social media.
It means so much just for you guys to be a part of this.
We really do this for you and so your feedback is amazing and I'm so excited that we're going
to jump into this conversation because we have the incredible Will Ford on this episode.
And it is so rich because that man is like a walking revelation, right?
And I'm not exaggerating.
Literally every time I talk to Will or you talk to Will, the man has so much consistent
revelation.
If you guys aren't already connected to Will and DeHavill and Ford, their dear friends
of ours get connected to their ministry.
They're the real deal.
But before we dive into that conversation, we have a really cool, just kind of highlight
though we want to talk about.
Many of you know we had our momentum conference this past January.
God did the incredible.
He did the unprecedented.
And we saw, we kept saying it's not a conference.
I promise you.
It's not a conference.
Get in the room.
And we, it really was one of those moments where you just wanted to be in the room and
we know so many of you that were and so many of you said, I wasn't this year, but I'm coming
in 2024 and we are having momentum 2024.
We'll tell you those dates later.
But you know, we, we, we felt enough of an unction of the Holy spirit to keep it going
and not to force it, but just to respond.
And when as Barry broke out, we really felt a holy invitation of what's the response in
the bay.
So Sean and I just prayed and we felt like it was to be on St. Patrick's Day.
May, March 17th here in Oakland, California.
And there's so many revival wells.
There's so many wells of the past, just people of great faith that have come.
The Smith Wigglesworth, Catherine Coleman, Ryan Woodworth, Edder, so on and so forth
have come through the bay area and have massive moves of God.
And we feel like we're in this place where we're, we're redigging the well.
So having it on St. Patty's Day, Sean, it was really significant.
I'm going to just give a little bit of a recap or maybe you do that.
Well, you know, the, the recap is that we just had, first of all, over, it was overflow
crowd.
It was close to 400 people.
If not 400 folks showed up on two weeks notice, two weeks, we just put it up on Instagram
that, Hey, come join us.
If you're hungry, these momentum nights are free.
We're just coming together to seek the face of God and seek a move of God.
And then ultimately become that move.
And worship was profound.
There was just some prophetic words you gave prophetic.
And you, yes.
And there was deliverance.
There were salvations.
We had eight people respond to give their life to Christ.
I just shared this simple thought.
First Kings 18, I'll just throw this out there.
This is a challenge.
Keep 100 tribe that after Elijah went up on the mountain and challenged the 850 false
prophets, some of Baal, some of Asura, they couldn't call down fire.
In other words, their gods were mute, but in dead and they weren't gods at all.
Small G, but Elijah called on the real God.
And when he did fire fell, but I, many people are preaching on that.
What I preach on is the very next part, the wicked King Ahab, who is the King over the
nation that should have been leading the people towards God Yahweh, Jehovah.
He actually allowed, he and his wife, Jezebel, they allowed worship of Baal.
And so right after fire fell, there were two contrasted response.
It says Ahab went, ate and drank like he went and got an indulgence flesh.
He went back and did what he always did.
He went back and Netflix binge.
He went back and just started scrolling and just on, on Instagram and on, you know, social
media, he just went back and did what he always does, but after the fire fell, says
Elijah went up on the top of the mountain, put his face between his legs.
In other words, he just got kind of in a birthing position and cried out.
And then he called his servant to go look for the reign of God.
And after seven times looking, they saw the hand, a cloud the size of a man's hand and
rain fell.
So here's the whole principle.
Like when fire falls, what is your response?
Ahab went, ate and drank and, and chilled, but Elijah got in a birthing position.
It says, no, the fire is a sign, but I'm still on assignment till I see rain fall.
And that's what I think momentum is about.
That's what I think is the cry of God and what he's putting in his people right now
is that we see fire fall.
It has buried.
We see fire fall.
Just simply even in response to the success of the Jesus, a revolution movie and all the
different stories that are taking place all over America and even the nations of the world,
fires falling, but are you going to go back and simply do Christianity?
We always done Christianity, or you're going to get in position to partner with God to
birth the rain of God.
Cause there's a rain.
Fire falling is what it takes to get folks attention, but rain is what causes the harvest
to come forth.
And then we had a massive time of everybody, bum rush and the altar at the end, more prophetic
ministry, healings, deliverances, people, we had a four hour service.
So when you say, share with what God did, man, I could go on forever, but it was memorable.
It was, I just say it was kingdom magical is what it was.
It really was.
You know, what we've been praying for, what we've been believing for, and to live in the
days where you're actually beginning to see what you've been praying for.
And I think so many people across the nation feel like this.
We really are in the days of what we've been contending for.
And we're, for some, they might be farther along and feel like in the way we're in that
embryo state, just those beginning stages.
And it's so exciting just to see a company of people that are really, really hungry from
all different churches all over the region.
We had people come up from LA.
We had people come from Sacramento.
They came from all over the bay, which on Friday night traffic, you know, there's a
commitment to come.
Yeah, from Reading.
We had a Bethel team come down to partner with us.
And they were already coming down on their own.
And then they got wind that we were doing something and they jumped in and joined us,
which was just awesome to have them and just incredible partnership there.
But, you know, I thought it was really cool.
My dad actually pointed out a really powerful revelation.
You know, we did it on St. Patty's Day, but even to back it up a little bit in January,
we hosted our momentum conference in Dublin, California named after like Dublin, Ireland
the same.
And we then had it on St. Patty's Day, you know, our next momentum, what we're calling
nights and we're shifting to like a monthly gathering here in the bay that we're calling
a momentum night.
Just believe for, you know, the Holy Ghost to move for people to get saved and experience
God and encounter and kind of like what we've been seeing and just more of it.
And so my dad talked about, you know, St. Patrick was a really significant saint and
he was a reformer and a revivalist from Ireland.
He was actually an Englishman kidnapped, brought to Ireland, but he brought reformation to
a nation that he actually initially held in captivity.
He was held in captivity.
He actually brought freedom to the place that actually held him in captivity.
How powerful is that?
Number one.
That's good.
And then, and then what's really powerful is, I guess in Ireland, when you study it,
my dad began to read because he just kind of began to get this revelation that I thought
was, man, it's profound.
He talked about how there was a battle over the fire and he wasn't sure because the historical
books didn't quite indicate was this supernatural fire like Mount Carmel fire or is this a fire
in the natural?
We don't know, but we just know that there was whoever had the control of the fire had
control of the nation.
And so Ireland at that time was one of Druid worship like warlocks and witches and they
had control of the fire.
And it was really interesting because when St. Patrick came to Ireland, he got control
of the fire.
So then it shifted the nation and brought reformation and made a Druid worshiping nation
and now a Christian nation because again, God brought the authentic fire.
And so when you preached about fire, it was just really significant because I feel like
we're bringing that to the Bay.
And one of the strategies that St. Patrick had was what's called a ring of fire.
And he would go to different cities in Ireland and actually bring the fire of God.
And it created like a circle.
It created like a ring of fire where everything began to burn for God, you know, metaphorically.
And so in spiritually, I should say, maybe that's a better way to say it spiritually,
people began to burn.
And so I feel like we're in a sense maybe walking in those same footsteps here in the
Bay like St. Patrick, we're creating a ring of fire and we're doing different cities in
the Bay and we're really believing for a massive outpouring.
But it comes to a strategy, but it also comes with the divine intervention, which we're
believing the fire of God to come down.
So I just thought that was super powerful and some really powerful insight from my dad.
Come on, Tommy, Tommy P.
You know, I love that ring of fire thing because I don't know that you know this, but back
when Mario Morello during the Jesus people movement was doing ministry in the Bay area,
he had fires that were breaking out in Berkeley of radical UC Berkeley students getting saved.
San Jose had an outbreak and he had some things he was doing also in Oakland and some other
spots, but he called it because he's far started to merge.
He called it literally the ring of fire all across the Bay.
So that's crazy.
Oh my God.
That whole thing.
So I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's profound.
That is profound.
That's a great story.
Yep.
Well, I keep it 100 tribe.
You are in for a precious, I say life changing.
This is going to change your life.
Somebody we have Will Ford.
He and his wife are co directors of 818 assigned ministry.
They are powerful.
They're shaking the nation and nations of the world.
He has an incredible story that he talks about a little bit in the interview, but they're
going to turn it into a movie.
So just like you've seen movies is being picked up right now.
So his life and testimony is going to be a miracle.
He is taught at Christ for the nations.
He has worked as a marketplace prophet.
Now he and his wife, I tend to rate, he's an author.
He is a incredible speaker.
He's an intercessor.
He's an amazing husband and dad.
So right now join us in this incredible conversation on revival, reverence and race with will Ford.
Keep it 100 tribe.
I know you guys hear me say this often that you are in for something special, but you have
no idea.
Words cannot describe.
I got my brother will Ford on here.
He is one of my closest friends and he is my brother on planet earth.
He and I talk regularly.
Our families are close.
We hang.
Oh my God.
We have the same spiritual mother.
We are brothers and every says will will what's going on, bro?
What's up big brother Sean?
Love man.
Love doing life with you and so excited about what God is doing with you and your ministry
and Christa man.
Just we're in the season that we've been praying for bro.
I mean, we're in it.
We're in it.
I think and I just appreciate all the for running you've done, you know, to train up
a generation to embrace the moment we're in right now.
So I'm super excited and I'm excited to be with you today.
Oh man.
Can't can't even begin to describe will as I mentioned earlier is a prolific author.
He is truly it's funny.
Hill Caya in the Bible brought the book of the law to Josiah and caused Josiah to go
into this righteous holy ghost rampage of reformation and will is the kind of guy that
will do just that.
And so will man, you have been at prayer events.
You have convened and brought together people from all over and all situations where there
was kingdom justice, whether it was in prayer meetings, whether it was speaking to young
African Americans and mentoring you and your wife, you guys have just incredible ministry.
You travel to churches, you've spoken together with Matt Lockett and in a most profound story
of racial unity.
So we're going to dive right in this.
And so yeah, we normally ask people's origin story, but we've had you on keep it 100.
This is the first time that we've had a guy come back and repeat.
So I thought of a different question to ask you.
So here's the question, will.
What was the first moment you knew that God was the God of the supernatural?
Always love out to finding out how someone was saved.
I love to find out what was their Mount Carmel moment when fire fell and they said, the Lord
is God, the Lord is God, the Lord is God.
What was that for you?
Well, you know, I could say when I first got baptized in the Holy Ghost, but beyond that
though, I went through a period.
I got burned, you know, church heard people talk about it, whatever, but I grew up in
a church that didn't believe in any of the gifts of the spirit.
I grew up in a church that didn't believe in any instruments could be used because they
didn't see it in the New Testament and all those things.
We had the right name on the building and all that stuff and the gifts of the spirit
were not for the day.
But in the midst of that environment, with me asking questions and reading the Bible,
I encountered the Lord and I had to leave that church because I started speaking in
tongues.
But then I went from that church to a Charismaniac church.
So shout out to a Charismaniac church.
Oh, wow.
Where you had to speak in tongues, you had to raise your hands, you know, and I went
from don't speak in tongues to you better speak in tongues.
Don't raise your hands so you better raise your hands.
And the honest truth about what was going on in both environments, usually when you have
a place like that where it's that legalistic, people are controlling because they're out
of control in other areas of their life.
And so both those leaders, whether Charismaniac or non-Charismaniac, man, they were, they had
some other stuff going on with immorality.
And so I just, I got disillusioned.
So what I did, Sean, I went to a cemetery of a seminary and I just decided I was going
to stop speaking in tongues.
And I felt like my best route to do Christian life was to know more than anybody else.
And I was just going to learn all like that.
But I was becoming like that guy, you know, like the guy who learns everything he knows
about Michael Jordan, but they don't know Michael Jordan.
Wow, come on.
They know his stance and his figures and everything.
But they wiked up to Jordan on the street.
Michael Jordan was like, I don't know you.
I was taking that kind of approach with God.
I was just going to learn the principles.
I was going to, the seminary I went to believed that revival wouldn't come to America until
the layman learned Greek and Hebrew.
And I was fully immersing myself in that.
And they didn't believe in any of the gifts.
They believed in his stuff.
All that to say, that set the stage for me showing up at a revival meeting.
My sister told me, she said, you know, you have to come to this.
This, this, God is moving and you have to be a part of this.
Now my other sisters, they were already, you know, hungry for God and walking and gifts
to the spirit and all that.
And this younger sister of mine, man, she was about like, I was, she was resistant,
but she got lit up like a Christmas tree at a revival meeting.
And so she was telling me about the things that were happening.
I was like, look, you know what, that stuff is just so whatever.
There's a bunch of hype as well as emotionalism, you know, those same kind of manifestations
having in other religions even.
Matter of fact, I'm going to go there and I'm going to show you how wrong all this
stuff is.
So, Sean, I show up there and I pulled up my Greek key, Hebrew study Bible, pulled it
out, I pulled out my notepad.
I'm just waiting for the guy to get up there and speak.
And the next thing I knew, the power of God hit that place in such a profound way.
The worship leader could not leave worship any longer.
She could no longer speak.
She just sunk under the weight of the glory of God.
And Sean, nobody laid hands on me or anything.
And in the midst of my doubt and unbelief, the power of God hit me.
And I felt electricity hit me on the top back and it went to the soles of my feet.
And I stayed under the weight of the glory of God for about three days.
I stayed under the weight of that.
And I spent the next three months in scripture trying to figure out what happened to me.
And I realized there are a couple of different words for glory in Hebrew one is shekaina,
but the other one is kabah.
And I realized, oh my God, that's what I felt.
I'm sorry.
I don't even know what I'm talking about.
Bro, we love that, dude.
That's real.
It hit me, man.
And I'm, yeah.
But I guess I'm blown away by the love of God in the midst of it.
Because in the midst of the pointy my finger.
Mmm, come on, man.
He would be on all that and love me in love to release a weighty blanket over me of love.
It was the most profound deep up I've ever felt.
And that was around 1995, 1996.
And that changed everything for me, Sean.
That's what changed.
Yeah.
Ew.
Bro, you know what?
Now, bro, as tight as we are, there are details in that story I've never heard before.
You had ecclesiastical whiplash, bro.
You hear from that one church, bro.
You can't do nothing to everything.
And I love what you said that a lot of times leaders who are out of control compensate
by being in control is the old classic, you know, the comb over.
You know, you're going to over exaggerate the guys is losing their hair.
We pray for everyone that's out there.
I'm sure that's a struggle to battle.
But is that competition book for you to say here you kind of set yourself up as a skeptical
like in that moment, the power of God hits you, overwhelms you so hard, man.
I couldn't shake it.
Man.
My arms, I couldn't even keep my arms on the armrest.
You know what I mean?
To say I was drunk in the spirit is too light of an explanation to describe.
It was like somebody put one of those heavy weighty blankets on.
And I felt the deepest profound love I've ever felt even in the midst of my skepticism and
my pointing finger, man.
God loved me.
And he revealed the truth to me about, you know, just raw God revival and what's available
to us right now.
You know, that's the thing right now.
You know, now's not the time for the cynic.
You know, we look at what's happening at Asbury right now and a good friend of mine said
it best, he said, you know, when the ark is on the move, don't be like us.
When the ark is on the move, don't touch it.
God is on the move right now, y'all.
You know, what's happening at Asbury is so pure.
It is so holy.
You know, it may not have all the bells and whistles what we like to see from a Zusa street
or anything else.
But let me tell you, I've had a young person who, one of my spiritual sons, he was like,
should I come here?
You preach on Sunday because I was preaching in town.
And you know, I was going to go for it, you know, because God is on the move.
And he said, oh, should I go to Asbury?
I got an opportunity to go to Asbury.
I said, son, let's hear.
I'm betting on a come on Sunday.
All right.
But God is moving at Asbury.
Go.
So he goes and he's seen, you know, I mean, mercy culture church, amazing church, landing
shot, Heather shot, amazing, you know, things are happening there at signs, wonders, guys
breaking out, but Sean, you're not both.
No, there's something different when weighty glory just presents.
It's just over a place, you know, all of his best to call it an outpouring or whatever.
Revival is not when brother wonderful and Reverend flip flop show up to town.
It's when God shows up and you can't orchestrate it.
You can't, you can't manufacture it.
And when that happens, I mean people, you know, you want to get more people in your
church, get the presence.
And that's what happens.
The weighty glory presence of God shows up and he's showing up at Asbury often different
times.
I'll talk about that in a little bit.
So I told the spirit of the son, I said, go to Asbury.
So he's seen a lot.
He's been in the midst of God moving.
He's been touched by God.
He's in Bible school.
He's doing amazing.
He came back.
I asked him, I said, Chris, what was your time like an as he stuttered and stammered
for five minutes.
Wow.
And he, and he wept and he cried.
And what he said was it was the most, it was the deepest, most profound love you've ever
felt in any time in his life.
And as well as the deepest level of conviction he'd ever experienced in his life.
And then also, Sean, he said this, he'd never been around more kind people, hosted people
for any kind of church gathering or anything.
He wept at the kindness.
And you know, that's something too that Sean, because you know, you say better than anybody,
you know, the thing that is kinder, more revivals has been the clock and our schedules.
Right.
And so here it is.
This school shuts down everything.
And, you know, a God chance to spend some time with Tommy Tend, one of the things he
told you said, one of the marks of a true revival with God comes to stay in a region,
it depends in large part on how people host the people who are coming.
If you are a good host of people, God will allow you to host his presence.
And that's what he saw there.
He said it was some of the kindest people you ever met.
He said, yeah, there were little, you know, things where people would try to, you know,
move it their way to get in and try to throw your name around here and there to try to
get to the front or whatever.
They dealt with that in such a gracious way.
And at the same time, they minister to the Lord in such a profound way that two and a
half weeks, I think the small estimates are that over 50,000 people just converge on this
on this little town of 6,000 people.
The largest estimates I heard over 120,000 people showed up over that 16, 17, I think
it was 18 days of continuous night and day worship prayer testimonies and just raw God,
raw presence and the holiness of the Lord.
That's what the people keep talking to me about.
There's just how holy the, just the tangible presence of the Lord was while there.
And it's spreading.
It's not just staying there.
Texas A&M is getting hit.
The university being hit is spreading.
It's interesting.
Yeah, Baylor University, yeah, with some young people from our church that are being
part of what's happening in Baylor.
So God is moving y'all.
And you know, we're gonna seek the Lord while he may be found time, you know.
And Sean, I remember playing hide and go seek with the boys, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got two little boys.
When I play hide and seek with my boys, the idea is not for them not to find me, you know,
but the idea is that I like to stick my foot out from underneath the curtain a little bit
so they can find me.
Yes.
That's what God is doing right now.
He's sticking his foot out from underneath the curtain.
And it's so beautiful about, he said, he's a reward of those who diligently seek him.
That's not even finding them.
He ain't even finding them.
He's gonna reward you for seeking.
But oh, but when we find them, oh, when a generation find them.
And a generation of people that have written off Gen Z who thought, you know, the least
this, the least that, struggling with identity issues of all kinds, going to schools where
they say that there are over 107 genders.
God says, okay, the very one you're gonna write off, that's what I'm putting my hand
on right now.
Man.
And that's what's happening right now, y'all.
Come on.
Will, I mean, that leads in.
How would you encourage someone today, bro, that our listeners keep your 100th tribe?
They're like, Hey, I feel like God is doing something different.
Like revival is imminent.
I mean, you're sharing with us about these awesome things.
How would you specifically encourage you're sitting across Starbucks from a person and
you're saying, Hey, I want you to know this time is so unique in history.
Even in the beginning, you were talking about what are some of the things you would, you
would share with them to let them know this is not just anybody's chronos moment.
This is a Cairo's time epic in God.
How would you encourage it?
It's a Cairo's epic time.
I got, let me, let me tell you, let me give you a little bit of a backdrop, y'all, on
keeping 100 family, just to keep it 100 for you.
Why this is significant.
Okay.
Asbury University has experienced several outpourings similar to this.
All right.
The first one wasn't in 1970.
I think one of the first ones is around 1856 or maybe not there in that area.
And that was during the second grade awakening that happened.
But then 1905, they had a power for outpouring on all the spirit there.
But guess what happened around the same time?
Yeah.
Evan Roberts with the Welsh revival.
And they also had William Seymour with the Azusa Street revival all around the same time.
Then later on 1950, there was a major outpouring of the Holy spirit at Asbury.
This one was centered more around intercession, intercessory prayer.
And they had just this, this powerful outpouring of the Holy spirit.
People could not not pray on them.
I pray for awakening.
Guess what happened?
The healing revivals broke out all throughout America and the Latter Rain movement broke
out at the same time.
Then in 1970, we all heard about what happened there at that time period, what young people
kept coming up to repent of their sins, prayer, confession, and the weighty glory presence
of God.
Again, this is Asbury.
What happens at the same time?
The Jesus people movement happens.
The Charest Merit renewal happens at the same time.
Then in 1993, there was a powerful outpouring of the Holy spirit, tangible weighty, holy
glory, release at Asbury, and at the same time, literally after that, you have the Toronto
blessing, then you also get the Pensacola revival, Steve Heald, and all that happened
there, and that powerful revival there, there in Florida, the Brownsville revival.
Then 19, no, God, then 2023.
Will?
Okay.
Yeah, a lot of people say, so 2023 and this powerful outpouring.
So why am I bringing these things up?
When God pours himself out like this at a place, he's using it as a sign.
Then God, it's a sign to let us know that we're going to seek the Lord while he may
be found a moment.
And he's, for whatever reason, used Asbury as this, not a litmus test for what revival
is supposed to look like.
Like, look, one revivalist told me, old school man, just been used by God since the 70s.
We're part of Jesus people movement and all the other powerful revivals.
Still, he's in a wheelchair to this day, but he's still hungry, still going after God.
He told me, Bob Nichols, he said, I love what's happening at Asbury, but I want people
to know that this is that, but that's not it.
In other words, this is that, we're in a, this is that moment.
This is that outpouring that was prophesied by Joe, but don't make it the it as the litmus
test for what every outpouring is going to look like.
It's going to manifest itself different ways, like it did in 1905 on the Zusa street, like
it did in 1950 with the healing revival, like it did in all these other places.
There's a way that God pours out himself as Asbury that becomes a sign and they everybody
know, hey, it's a little bit thinner around here, a little bit, the resistance is breaking.
There's an open heaven over here.
And so that's, that's, that's what I want you to know, but why Asbury?
Well, yes, a lot of it, I believe a lot of it has to do with Francis Asbury.
The names say Francis Asbury was this amazing man of God who was, who was a, he was the
leader of the circuit riders and he was trained by John Wesley to lead the circuit riders.
What did the circuit riders do?
They went to all the 13 colonies on horseback preaching the gospel and they preached the
gospel, but they also took a strong stand against slavery.
Right?
So you could not be a circuit rider and own slaves and the circuit riders carried three
things in their satchels, a Bible, a hymn and mangy mission forms.
The mangy mission forms were so that as they preached the gospel and the slave owner was
there, if you got saved, they say, listen, sir, it was for freedom.
The Christ set us all free.
Therefore go ahead and sign these mangy mission forms and set your slaves free too.
We know that's what happened because everywhere the circuit riders went, the free slave population
shone through exponentially.
My God.
And so that's what he carried.
I mean, over 25,000 people came to that man's funeral when he passed away.
He had such a profound influence even on the framing and the shaping of the nation, the
declaration of independence and also with the constitution.
He had a major influence on those documents.
So much so, many people wanted to put the ending of slavery in those documents because
of the preacher Francis Asbury.
And some of the founding fathers like George Mason refused to sign those documents because
it didn't include the ending of slavery because that's kind of influenced that Francis Asbury
had at that time.
So he traveled horseback with another man who was a black circuit rider.
His name was Harry Hoosier.
Harry Hoosier, they called him Black Harry because he was so dark.
He was, I know, I met a friend growing up.
We used to call him 2 AM because he said he was black at midnight.
Oh my goodness.
So anyway, Black Harry, right?
So they called him that, but he was a preacher in France.
So Black Harry, at that time period, he was just coming out of slavery, couldn't read
or write, but Asbury loved this prayer life.
And so he was Asbury's intercessor.
So one day, Asbury gets sick and he gets sick and he can't preach.
So he asked Harry to take his place.
And Harry took his place that day.
And then before you knew it, revival broke out under the preaching of Harry Hoosier.
They had protracted meetings where they met for weeks as a result of what God was doing
through the preaching of Harry Hoosier.
He approached to white audiences, black audiences.
He and Asbury, both they united the body of Christ in that time period.
They preached across color lines.
One time somebody was critical of Harry Hoosier preaching because he was a black man.
He said, listen, if I was a physician and you were about to die and you were really
sick, would it matter the color of my skin if I had the remedy for your ailment?
And in the same way, I have the remedy for your soul right now.
It's the gospel of Jesus Christ.
He preached to audiences, black and white, all across the country, care revival and became
actually more requested speaker than Francis Asbury, much to Asbury's delight.
He had people, of course, he had, he served up a lot of hatred wherever he went to.
So the old mainstream denominations got upset because so many people were getting converted
in his meetings, especially in Indiana.
He's preaching and so many people were coming to hear him preach black and white.
The other denominations got jealous and they said, oh, y'all just part of his fan club.
Y'all just a bunch of Hoosiers.
So if you ever wonder how Indiana became known as the Hoosier State, it was because
of the preaching of Harry.
My goodness.
Right?
Professor Pearson and also David Barnett, they both tell that story.
I bring that up because some people, some of them are being a few people that kind of
have mocked Asbury, they say, oh, well, you know, it feels real revival.
There'll be more ethnic diversity.
First of all, there was a lot of ethnic diversity, more you realize because even when it started
out, it was doing black history month celebration.
There was a black gospel choir that was there that day.
Oh my goodness.
See?
And George from the young African American worship leader named George, he said, you
know, maybe we should stick around a little bit longer because I feel like God is doing
something.
And 18 days later, you know, the rest is history, right?
They stayed there in that place and the president got this kept coming in.
So it was that thing of the first, but here's the thing.
Don't be like us.
Don't touch the art.
But the other thing is this, if you want to see revival, do what Hoosier did.
Pray for Asbury.
What if you pray for Asbury?
What God would raise you up to be a voice for revival and awakening.
Be like Hoosier.
Pray for Asbury.
I think, yes, I want to see more ethnic diversity.
I want the inner city to be left out of the storyline of revival and this time here.
And God is doing something.
You know, you got black voices going to all the HBCUs, you know?
Yes, sir.
And that amazing group of young people and all these.
So listen, let's pray for this thing.
Let's fan the flame.
Let's not doubt it out.
And God is telling, these are the reward of those that diligently seek Him right now.
So why Asbury?
God pours out his strength like this.
Not on a geographic location.
He remembers his friends.
No greater love than anyone in this thing.
He laid down his life for his friend.
And we laid down our life for him.
God goes after our offspring.
So it's David saying when Jonathan dies, who in the house of the soul can I show kindness
to for Jonathan's sake?
Jonathan's dead and gone, but David is still under the influence of his friends devotion
to him.
Then in verse three of 2 Samuel 9, he says, who in the house of the soul can I show the
kindness of God for Jonathan's sake?
So this is what the kindness of God looks like.
So they go find some broken busted up kid named the Fibbishep.
He knows nothing about the covenant.
He's high enough in King David.
He's totally mischaracterized King David.
I think he's trying to kill him.
Hards from 20 years, but he's brought to the King's table.
Why?
Because David is still under the influence of his daddy's devotion.
Listen, God is still under the influence of folks like Harry Hoosier and Francis Asbury.
And every time he wants to release an outpouring, every time he wants to reach something that's
going to touch everybody in this nation, he'll say, Oh, Asbury, look, I want to do something
that's a little place that a little school that started that has your name, where you
lifted up the name of my son, where you preached holiness, power, the power of God, and revival.
I'm going to do something there to let everybody know that I'm coming after your offspring.
He's coming after all of them.
I'm a Fibbishep right now.
What if we lay down our lives today?
What would happen 20 years, 30 years, 200 years later to the Lord Terry?
God wants to go after our offspring.
Everybody talks about generational curses.
They're real.
They're powerful.
They go to three and four generations, sometimes 10.
But listen, generational blessings, y'all go to a thousand generations.
That means basically forever.
It's also to the memorial stones.
Remember Joshua 4?
They built the memorials.
Oh, yes.
They lifted those things up.
When God saw those 12 stones, he didn't see a pile of rocks, y'all.
He saw the 12 great, great grandsons of his covenant.
There in Abraham, who left everything to follow him.
But then in 1 Kings 1831, Elijah has his showdown with the prophets of Baal.
And the nation is often to Baal worship.
They worship in Baal so they can get rain for their crops and they're bringing the secretism
and this mixture and this compromise in kind of like we're doing today.
How you going to burn sage and pray to Jesus at the same time?
Y'all say that, bro.
This ain't that season.
So anyway, so they're bringing in this mixture.
Elijah prays, shuts up to heaven, it's three and a half years, it shuts down.
The prophets of Baal come out and they're cutting themselves and doing all the gyrages.
And then it says that Elijah rebuilt the altar of prayer in the nation.
How do you do it?
1 Kings 1831, he took 12 stones.
He took the 12 memorial stones from Joshua's time period because those stones would be
a memorial to the whole nation.
So he puts those stones together to remind them of their covenant with God and the remit
of God of his covenant with his friend Abraham.
He said, oh God, on these old stones, on these old memories, release a new fire for the next
generation.
And then the fire falls and of all the people say, the Lord he is God, the Lord he is God,
the Lord he is God.
And they stopped limping back and forth between two opinions about how many genders they are.
They stopped limping back and forth between two opinions about biblical marriage.
They stopped limping back and forth about, you know what I'm saying, man.
Oh man, Will, bro, you are dropping just revelation from it.
It's raining on, keep it under the pockets.
It's raining, y'all.
Keep it raining, Will.
Let me throw this in.
In this next movement, I think you begin to address it.
What part do you think the fear of God reverence will play in this next move?
You and I were talking and you were telling me about this message you had on the smoke.
How important is reverence and the fear of God in this next move, Will?
I think it has everything to do with the fear of the Lord.
So I was the way, I got caught up to speed on that, honestly.
It's 33rd day of an extended fast.
I was all with my church and I was going to a prayer meeting and this is not a dream.
I started coughing because I smelled smoke.
I mean, I was literally coughing.
I had smoke going into my lungs, burned my chest.
You ever just have smoke from a chimney or whatever going to your chest and burn?
You're like, man, I was a little upset because the fire department came to our house a couple
of months ago because the boys accidentally set off the fire alarm, the stink in the shower,
set it up.
You get fine that they show back up again.
So I was a little angry and I was like, hey, why end of the half minutes?
My wife was like, hey, if you're going to do a fire, open up their flutes so that smoke
goes up in the chimney, smoke coming in here now.
I don't want to set off the fire alarm again.
And she said, well, there's no firewood in the house and there's no fire in the fireplace.
I said, well, you must be on the phone again and you've forgotten you left something on
the stove.
You about to burn the house down, woman.
And she's like, okay, you're fasting and there's nothing on the stove and your attitude
sucks.
You need to repent.
I'm like, but I'm coughing smoking though.
And so I checked the iron.
The iron wasn't on.
It was cold.
So I get in the car and I start coughing again, Sean, because I was choking from smoke.
And I called my wife and said, hey, is something wrong with the car or something?
Because I smell it smoking.
She said, Mr. Ford, what if you're on fire?
And as soon as she said that, I heard the Lord say this to, I'm looking for a living
sacrifice, looking for, and I realized, Sean, I've been studying about David trying to bring
back the Ark of the Covenant and all the sacrifices that he made and all the sacrifices that Solomon
made when he dedicated the temple, you know, 22,000 oxen.
He slaughtered 120 sheep and goat.
He slaughtered to dedicate their temple.
And so I'd never considered all the smoke that was in the priesthood.
So I'm like, man, what is it? So I called you to get a better understanding of this
smoke thing.
Right. And you said, well, will the first time God revealed himself to the nation of Israel
as they were coming out of Egypt, one God said in there, I want to have a nation of
priests.
They have them, have them, uh, uh, uh, consecrate themselves for three days, have them washed
in clothes, no marital relations for three days.
So they fast all that stuff, three days.
Then they show up about two or three million people.
They show up and they see Mount Sinai, the mountain is shaking and quaking.
They see the lightning and the thunder.
They heard the trumpet blast and then the Bible says, but then they saw all the smoke.
They saw all the, and when they saw all the smoke, the people said, Moses, we don't want
that.
We're good. You know, you represent us and that'll be, that'll be it for us.
And from that moment on, and you told me this from that moment on, God's people will never
refer to as a nation of priests again, until the New Testament, first, be the two and I.
That's right.
In other words, they forfeited the reward of their consecration.
The reward of their consecration was not better communication in their marriage.
The reward of the consecration wasn't clothes they couldn't wear three months ago.
The reward of their consecration was not a nice, clean new suit.
The reward of their consecration was all the smoke and greater intimacy with the Lord,
but they were afraid of the Lord, but they didn't have the fear of the Lord.
When you're afraid of the Lord, you don't want to be transparent.
You don't want to be vulnerable.
You don't want to confess.
You just want to put your consecration on and hope it can hide you with some kind of religious
facade and you think God won't see all this junk that's going on in your life.
No, but to have the fear of the Lord, the fear of the Lord says this, Oh God, I'm in
all of you and I love you and I'm afraid to live my life without investor difference.
And so from that moment on, Moses knew God's, you know, the children of Israel knew God's
acts, but Moses knew God's ways.
In other words, the children of Israel knew God through answered prayer, but Moses knew
God through what he knew what to pray and why because he had Tennessee and that's what
the fear of the Lord is.
God is bringing back the fear of the Lord.
He's bringing back all.
He's going to bring back.
See the deal is this, the one that they feared the most is the one who loved them the most
and he loved them so much he'd rather died and spend eternity without him.
That's what Jesus did on the cross.
That's where he was demonstrate.
And so that's what the fear of the Lord would make you do.
He's like, Oh, I'm so in all of you, but I have to have more in my life.
I'm afraid to live my life without you.
I don't want to be left in my own decision making.
I don't want to be left to be on devices.
I want you in my life.
You know, so Moses exodus 33, God says, Moses, I'm done.
You know what?
I'll send my angel before you.
You'll get the price land.
Y'all can have it all, but I'm not going with you.
And Moses says, Oh no, I'm afraid to live my life now.
Angels are nice.
I like those guys.
They're great.
But listen, unless your presence didn't go with us, do not take me up in this place.
I want your presence more than anything.
I don't want success without God.
There's no such thing as success without God.
Moses was about to get the crowd without the cloud.
And so many people were settling for that right now.
We got anointing on our life and other few other things.
Anointing is great.
It's not going from a hand saw to a buzz saw.
That's great.
But it's still, it's this false finish line.
The thing we want is his presence.
What do we have by the cloud?
So many people want the crowd without the cloud and they are sweating it out in their
ministry.
They have so much anxiety.
They have so much stress.
They worry about the things of people every five minutes on Twitter and Facebook.
What are they saying?
What are they like?
What are the felt needs?
What are the stages of life of people right now?
If you get the presence, you don't have to worry about that.
Come on, Will.
We minister to him.
We please God.
We're going to serve people.
When we start pleasing people sooner or later we'll stop serving God.
That is a word, Will.
Oh my goodness.
So that's where we are right now.
It's about the fear of the Lord.
Will, man, oh my goodness.
Bro, we're going to have you on for part three.
I just realized, man, you're a only repeat guest.
We just go out and get you.
I just realized, man, you're a only repeat guest.
We just go out and get you for part three as well.
Bro, you have done such a great job in understanding the times we live in, understanding the word,
being prophetic.
I love you, Will, for so many reasons.
One of them, obviously, you're probably the most authentic follower of Christ I know, but
you marry the word and the spirit.
It's that my mentees always say, you need a two-winged dove.
If you've got one-winged dove, it does awesome somersaults when it goes off the cliff.
But if you're going to soar, you need two wings, and you bring word and spirit.
So, Will, man, Will, oh, we just have to bring you back.
Hey, talk to us, Will.
How can people listening stay in contact with you?
What are some of the projects?
Just give our listeners, I know they're going to tap into what you and your wife are releasing.
So talk to us about anything you act on my up and how we can stay in contact.
Well, one, I want you all to pray for me and my friend, Matt Lachlan.
I'm in the mail this crazy storyline, y'all, where I have an old relic from my family.
That the slaves of my family used it to muffler their voices when they prayed.
And my friend Lou Engle asked me to share that gathering,
but share that relic and the gathering with people at the Lincoln Memorial MLK Celebration Day.
But there was a white guy who was led to that gathering because he had a dream.
He had a dream about the man over there at the event.
He didn't know he existed and found out there was this real guy named Lou Engle.
And so he and I became friends.
We've been friends for 18 years.
Well, fast forward, that white friend of mine, Matt Lachlan,
found out that the Civil War ended in his family's front yard.
So we thought, man, what a cool coincidence.
I got this kettle pot with slaves prayed for freedom.
Yeah, this house where generally father's last battle, we thought, wow, what a cool coincidence.
But y'all, we stumbled on more research and realized it was my friend Matt Lachlan's family
who owned my family where the kettle pot came from.
And we met at the Lincoln Memorial, both led by dreams to the place where Dr. King said,
is I have a dream speech.
I have a dream that one day the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners
will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
So we wrote a book about it called The Dream King and it's being turned into a movie project.
It'll work with Michael Lannan, Jill, Brian Bird, and now Sammy Rodriguez is signed on to be one of the executive producers
to help us with this.
He's your friend, Sammy Rodriguez.
He was spoke at the conference.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, so he just signed on to help us in this project.
And y'all, if y'all could just pray for this documentary.
If y'all could do that, that would greatly appreciate that.
And so that's one of my biggest things right now.
If y'all could pray for that, I would greatly appreciate it.
You want to keep up with what we're doing.
I'm on Instagram, W. Will Ford.
I'm on 818-SIME, my wife, Nars' Ministry.
818-SIME.org.
If you want to keep up with some of the boot camps and some of the other strategic things we're doing
to unite the body of Christ to pursue God through prayer, fasting, and doing these gatherings that we love to do.
And Sean's been some of the amazing speakers that we've had and a few others.
We're looking to do another gathering soon, so go there to see.
Just to stay abreast of what we're doing right now.
But I'm just excited y'all.
God is blowing my mind right now.
But I can't believe that that's the one memory that Sean became of my mind when you said,
you know, when was the time that you remembered that God, you know, was so real and raw to you.
The supernatural was so real and raw.
And it was in that moment of doubt, unbelief, and skepticism.
And if I had not had God interrupt my life right then and there, who knows what kind of was just so bound up by religion and religious spirit.
How would it have been but God and his love and his deep profound mercy.
Yeah, just invaded all of that and I haven't been the same since.
And so, you know, I just feel even for somebody on here, you know, you've been kind of skeptical.
You've been kind of cynical.
Hey, I get it.
I understand.
I know it's like that church hurt be burnt.
But let me tell you, God loves you.
And the one you should fear the most is the one who loves you the most.
And he loves you so much he'd rather die the speedy turn it without you.
Literally, that's what he did when he stressed his arms out on that cross and he died.
But then he rose again in victory and he wants to give you great right now.
You don't have to have that all figured out.
That's a faith walk, but there's so much he wants you to learn about him.
Take up his yoke.
His yoke is easy.
His burden is light and he wants you to learn of him.
He will teach you if you let him disciple you.
I just want to share that with somebody.
You're struggling with that.
Just the yoke of religion that weighs you down.
I know, I know.
Been there, but God.
Come on.
Will, man, this is so rich.
You're your wife.
You guys are a true power couple.
Christa was on a Johnny's table talk.
Your wife is so good to see her just breaking out in the area of media and just all the
things that she's doing, all the things you guys are doing.
Man, we love you.
We can't wait till the next time we hang out.
We hang out with you, man.
I'll get on the phone and tell you some other stuff that's coming up, but hey, we love you.
We're going to be praying for you.
You guys pray for this movie, drinking or whatever the title they're going to give it.
And well, thanks so much for stopping by.
We love you, bro.
Love you, bro.
Thank you so much, big bro.
Love you, dear.
All right, man.
Bless you.
Oh my God.
I mean, Will always brings it.
That was so, so good, so deep.
And what I love, it's always fresh with Will.
Like he has spent time with the Lord and there's always just such for a fresh revelation.
And I know our people want to try, but so blessed by that conversation.
And I know that's going to minister to so many people.
I love that because, you know, when people use this phrase, it's, you know, don't, don't
get religious on me.
If you hear this phrase here in my heart in this, but they use the phrase, the stars
are beginning to align.
And, and obviously it sounds like it's a, maybe an astrology thing.
I don't know.
But it's just this thing that I would Christian viewpoint, look at this and say there are
signs that are beginning to take place that God is moving and God is stirring.
And this is what will brought out.
And it's like God is causing the, the stars he created to align and they're speaking to
us.
They're calling us out very much like the, the star shown over the birth of Jesus and
the babe of Bethlehem.
I feel like there are stars that are pointing that there is a new birthing of a new Jesus
revolution and new Jesus movement.
And you definitely want to be a part of it.
And I see if there's any takeaway is that now is the time to swing for the fences.
Now is the time to go all out for God.
Now is not the time to have kind of a kickback Christianity, a sofa saint, sipping a latte,
kind of chill.
Like right now this is the time that history will write generations will speak of that we
were a part of a move that swept in the billion soul harvest.
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