1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Welcome to Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa Smith. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:12,480 Join us in this space where we take on real issues with real insight and real inspiration. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,780 This podcast is for those not looking for temporary relief to change circumstance but 4 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:19,360 revelation to forever change lives. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100 with Sean and Christa Smith. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,200 It's your boy Sean. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200 My favorite. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Hey, we're so excited to be with you. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,520 We have a unique episode before we dive into the topic and I'm going to break down kind 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160 of what that looks like for today's episode. 11 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,160 But we have some really fun highlights that we just kind of want to share with you guys 12 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:43,200 of what we've been up to since we were together last. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,200 Yes. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,560 One of the things is that we went across the pond. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Everybody went to the UK, went to London. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,640 We were able to do a conference over there for our great friend, Tomi Ariomi. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 And we were with the Feather Stones, which are great pastors over there. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800 We're a phenomenal church. 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Yeah, amazing people. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,640 And the conference was so fun. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,760 We saw God do some just some powerful things. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,360 We got a chance to get over and take pictures in front of Big Ben, went down the Tams River. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,360 That's how they would say it. 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240 I would say it phonetically, Thames, but they don't pronounce their H's. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,400 And it was so cool because up and down that little Tams River, it's kind of for us like 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Pier 39 in San Francisco. 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Yeah, it is. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,880 And so we got some great food over there, hung out, saw some sites and it's just so cool 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,480 because although we speak the same language, we don't. 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,640 Yeah, it's a totally different world over there. 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,920 And you know, it's cool because I've been exposed to UK culture for years, ministered 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,040 in Ireland and different places around the UK, but never myself in London actually ministered. 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,360 So that was my first time. 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,880 And I just kind of prepared myself for a little bit more quiet congregation, not super interactive 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,880 or responsive. 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 And I found quite the opposite. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,600 I was like shocked of how fiery this remnant group has really gathered in London and we 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,120 really are seeing it around the world. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,880 And it's so exciting because I feel like people are going beyond cultural norms and they're 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,480 tapping into kingdom. 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,320 And there's this really beautiful hunger that is across the board that we're seeing no 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,160 matter where we go, no matter what country, no matter what congregation, people are not 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,840 staying in the boxes anymore. 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,680 I feel like people are shattering boxes. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,520 Yeah, they were definitely not lethargic. 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,520 They were lit. 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,520 They were lit. 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 They were so fiery, packed out. 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,480 All the meetings were powerful, just the prophetic, just the healing. 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,480 It was so cool. 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,960 We got a chance to stay at a nice little inn that you got to just eat a good meal together 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,960 there. 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,960 It was fun. 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Look out over kind of, I don't know, a pastor, a golf course or something out there was a 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,320 field. 56 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,320 So it was, it was, it was cool. 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,360 We got a chance to get some good food there. 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,000 And it was just a great time. 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000 It was amazing. 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,480 It just felt like we did our assignment. 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,760 And then I came home right after that, jumped right into a Bethel women's conference called 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,760 wonder this year. 63 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,960 And Havala, who's just an amazing woman of God, I just so love what she carries. 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,040 She invited myself, Elisa Bavir, and then a ton of women that are on Bethel staff that 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,720 are just powerhouses in their own right. 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,680 I mean, they're, each of them could be like carrying a conference. 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,280 They're just incredible women of God. 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,000 And there was probably like 10 of us that were speaking that they had the day sessions 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,960 and I had a two of the night sessions and it was incredible. 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,000 I mean, I, I felt like we had a freedom in the room during my session that was just special. 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,760 It was so unique. 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,520 I feel like what God is doing with women is, it really is the word special. 73 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,520 It's just different and it feels like such an honor just to be able to witness God raising 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,120 up women in the sour. 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,840 And there was a roar and a sound and a release and a freedom that I have not seen hit a room 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,840 before. 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,360 That was just incredible. 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,280 I really feel marked and changed from that gathering at wonder. 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,680 And so I came home raving about it to Sean. 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,720 It was like, I always want him at everything with me. 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Well, even before you did, I, we have so many great friends up in Bethel, Redding. 82 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,520 They were hitting me up. 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,640 I was in Huntsville, Texas, reaching out to university students. 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:05,200 And so they were hitting me up and just talking about how your session, God just came down, 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,200 blew it up. 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,440 If you guys want to go to Christa's Instagram account, Ms. Christa Smith, you're going to 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,440 see some clips if you go back and it was just amazing. 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,440 There was a point in time where the women just erupted and just went straight wild. 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,760 It was, it was, it was awesome. 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,760 It was awesome. 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,480 And then I loved as I was ministering in Bethel, you were down, like you said, in Huntsville, 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Texas with all these college students. 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,480 And there was like, what, you guys stayed till midnight. 94 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,760 There was like Holy Ghost breakout. 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,680 There was legit deliverances. 96 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Tons of students got saved. 97 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080 I mean, you had radical services. 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,080 It was so powerful. 99 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,080 It was powerful. 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,200 And then there was Eli and Mary Gautreau down there and Colin, Jason, all those guys that 101 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,840 are doing a great job down there. 102 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:49,720 I think we had one night where 25, 30 kids got saved and we had a night where that many 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800 or more were baptized in the Holy Ghost. 104 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,720 We see the heavenly language the first time. 105 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,280 So it was truly awesome. 106 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:58,400 You know, so be encouraged, you guys, as you're hearing these testimonies, this is, and I 107 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,040 was just sharing like, oh, this has just happened to happening. 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,320 This is like, this is what's available. 109 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,360 This is what God's doing all over. 110 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,600 So grab these testimonies because we always believe that the testimony of Jesus' spirit 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,560 of prophecy, meaning we're prophesying to you what's available right now. 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,840 There is just a Holy Ghost outpouring that's happening all over. 113 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:21,160 And so we want you guys to grab that for wherever you call home because we believe more is available. 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaking of more. 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,160 Also, another great announcement, you guys. 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,360 We're going to have another momentum night. 117 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,800 We did one about a month ago. 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,960 It was amazing. 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,960 We had a capacity crowd. 120 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,880 400 people show up on two weeks. 121 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,320 I think we talked about two weeks notice, but we're doing another momentum night for 122 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,160 those of you that missed the last one. 123 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,160 It's going to be May 12th at 7pm. 124 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,240 It's going to be a Sequoia Community Church. 125 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,920 You can look up the address, but it's 4292 Keller Avenue in Oakland and we are super 126 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,920 excited. 127 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,200 And so we kind of are going to follow up that last night of fire and we're calling hungry 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,640 believers, revivalists, reformers. 129 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,120 We're calling the unsaved to come and join us for round two. 130 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,440 And we really believe that if we come together, that God is already at work in the Bay and 131 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,360 it's just us coming together, coming in agreement for a move of God because we all know we 132 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,880 just need a movement. 133 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,240 And so you can need to join us for this momentum night. 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Again, it is going to be May 12th, Friday night at 7pm. 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Come join us Bay area and NorCal. 136 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,440 And that's right. 137 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,720 And we always say to you guys, get in the room. 138 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,720 If you're able to get in the room, there's something about when you're in the room with 139 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,600 the Holy Ghost, it is just different. 140 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,160 It hits differently. 141 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,660 It transforms you differently. 142 00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:31,660 So get in the room. 143 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:34,400 If you know anyone in the Bay area, if you live in the Bay area, show up. 144 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,400 It's free. 145 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,400 No registration. 146 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Just come. 147 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,960 Bring your mom, bring your friends, bring your family, bring your neighbors, bring them 148 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 all because the Holy Ghost is about to break out. 149 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120 And we're just continuing for a move of God and we're beginning to see it. 150 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,120 So join us May 12th. 151 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Okay. 152 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,120 Are we ready? 153 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Let's go. 154 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,120 Okay. 155 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,120 So this is kind of fun. 156 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,120 I propose this idea to Sean. 157 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960 I just have been wanting to interview Sean for a while because he has one of the most powerful 158 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,960 stories. 159 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,280 And he's my husband, so I get a front row seat to do this man of God every day. 160 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:03,960 And he truly is one of the most Christ-like people I know. 161 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,180 He constantly challenges me with his walk with God. 162 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:09,480 He walks in such an integrity. 163 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,320 He walks in such a deep conviction for the things of God, but he also walks in a sincere 164 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,960 joy and a peace that is truly unrattled. 165 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:25,560 I have seen my husband face incredibly difficult situations and moments in life and he just 166 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,560 stays steadfast in things of God. 167 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,360 And I'm always asking him questions because I always want to be a student and I want to 168 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,480 learn from people that walk deeper in areas that I want to walk deeper in. 169 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,520 So I'm going to talk to my husband about places that are hard and places that have been difficult 170 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 and places that have been really painful. 171 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,200 I think in today's world, let me open it up with this baby. 172 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:52,280 I think in today's world, we have a world that really focuses on people's pain and people 173 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:59,320 are very quick to share and sometimes overshare their pain and their trauma and their hardship. 174 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,520 And I do appreciate vulnerability and I encourage vulnerability. 175 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:08,080 I want people to feel like they can be transparent and be totally open with their hardships. 176 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,600 But as a believer in Christ, I always have questions on how to walk through the hardships. 177 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,240 But before we get through the how to walk through, I know your life. 178 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,700 You don't know all the questions that I'm going to ask you today. 179 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:25,720 But I want to come to you and I want to start talking to you because I know firsthand, you've 180 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,560 walked through a lot of trauma. 181 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,000 You've walked through a lot of hardship. 182 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,800 Baby, what would you say is one of the most difficult things you've ever had to walk through? 183 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760 That is actually a very great question. 184 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,280 I think in my life, I look back, I had people walk out of my life in significant relationship. 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,240 I experienced the death of close ones. 186 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,240 I've had to deal with diseases that have plagued people that I love. 187 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,160 I think that there's several things that were very, very challenging for me. 188 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,440 And I think the thing that I really would sum it all up in is those areas where you 189 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,360 really can't help yourself. 190 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,720 Like it's a decision made by someone else. 191 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Yeah. 192 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,000 When I was old enough to recognize my dad initially, of course, this is not how it ended, but 193 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,440 my dad initially chose to walk out on me. 194 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,840 So I think that was probably the first time, obviously someone significant that he had 195 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,160 got my mother pregnant and didn't want to be a dad, didn't want to be a husband. 196 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,760 And so he walked out. 197 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,800 And so that when I was old enough to kind of discover that I realized in retrospect, 198 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,560 it hit and affected me in a deeper place than I could articulate. 199 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:32,520 Cause when you're young, you don't know, you don't have all the terminology. 200 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,520 So I think that happened. 201 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,240 I've had relationships where people have walked out. 202 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,360 You know, I've had people that were emotionally non present, although maybe physically they've 203 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,520 been there. 204 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,640 My precious mom, she had so much she had to fight through. 205 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,760 She's going to be with the Lord. 206 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,720 So there was a period in time where she probably was not emotionally as present. 207 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Those of you that know my testimony, my grandmother was an alcoholic coming up. 208 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,240 So there was times during in which she was drunk and she was not emotionally available. 209 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,960 But when she was sober, she was very much available. 210 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,840 So it was kind of a, I describe it as kind of a Jekyll hide. 211 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,480 She was never abusive to me. 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,160 She was, she was an old school disciplinarian and she was very Southern black grandmother 213 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 ish in her upbringing, how she brought me up. 214 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,440 What I just think throughout my life rather was in high school with peer pressure, but 215 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:24,160 not really knowing who I am, my identity to, you know, just earlier relationships, failed 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,880 relationships, obviously before I met you. 217 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,080 And so I, when I put it together, it's those moments where either a disease or someone 218 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,200 making a decision where you don't have control. 219 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,600 I feel like I do better if I can have an element of control. 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Now, obviously control is, it's a subjective word is very fluid. 221 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Not ultimately is in control, we're not in control, but things that I can make a decision 222 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,200 and I can shift and change. 223 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,280 There are things in life and I'm sure there are people that are listening that regardless 224 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,400 of what decision you may or may not have made, there are certain things in life that will 225 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,880 hit you square between the eyes and you just have to, you have to roll, you have to shift, 226 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,880 you have to adapt. 227 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,080 So those are probably the toughest things that have happened in my life. 228 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:10,440 So I hear you talking about the alcoholism, losing your grandma, your dad being murdered 229 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,280 and your dad initially walking out and just the consistency of just that trauma after 230 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,360 trauma after trauma. 231 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,440 And there's other things that you didn't even state, you know, that I know you've walked 232 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,440 through or whatever. 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,480 And I guess the question I would have that I think a lot of people listening would have 234 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:31,000 is we serve a God who's really good and we know logically in our brains, God is good, 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 but then you're going through things that aren't good. 236 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,400 How do you reconcile in the midst of trauma and pain that God is still good in pain and 237 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,400 suffering? 238 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,680 How do you, how do you stay in a place of God being good when it's like so hard? 239 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,320 There are two thoughts that I have on that. 240 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,320 The first thought is issue. 241 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,040 You have to get job descriptions correct. 242 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,280 If the, if the devil, the Bible says comes to kill, still and destroy, Jesus came that 243 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,440 you may have life and life more abundantly. 244 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,920 We pray the prayer Jesus taught us in the Lord's prayer may as well be done on earth as it 245 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,160 is in heaven. 246 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Sometimes people think that because it happens, God did it or God purposed it. 247 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,960 And although I don't think anything can happen to a believer without God being able to redeem 248 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,960 it and use it. 249 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,360 And I'll talk about that in a moment. 250 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Not everything that happens to you is from the hand of God. 251 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,280 And I think until you understand that we've let people out of their pain rewrite our theology. 252 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:30,640 And we've let people who've had hurts and wounds and pains change God into kind of this 253 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,460 God that allows mean things to happen as if he would kind of torture his kids a little 254 00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:37,800 bit to try to make them better followers. 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,800 That's not God at all. 256 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,840 And you have to understand there will be a time when God completely in terms of his 257 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,040 will being enforced over people. 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,920 And the Bible says that that time will be a new heaven and a new earth. 259 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,320 The Bible says there'll be no more wars, no more pain, no more killing, no more murder. 260 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,080 And we got to remember when Jesus, when God created the Garden of Eden, none of that was 261 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,080 there. 262 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,080 The serpent was there. 263 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,680 It was only when man partnered outside of the will of God with what the enemy wanted to 264 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,120 do that pain and suffering comes into the world. 265 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,480 And it's still the case today. 266 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,000 If we would come in agreement with God, there's so much that would be avoided. 267 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,880 And you have to understand we live in a fallen world. 268 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,280 We live in a senseic world where people make decisions that are not God. 269 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,400 If everyone lived the way Jesus lived, our world would be a completely different place. 270 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,920 All you got to do is read the Gospels and look at what Jesus did. 271 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,520 And if you find out Jesus was always destroying the works of the enemy and undoing what the 272 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:38,640 devil did, so if you see that, that is a clear theological depiction of who the father is. 273 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,240 So number one, this is so important and this always helps me is I got to stop and think, 274 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:49,080 God is good, but we live in a fallen world that displays what's bad. 275 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880 But if we lean into God, there's always hope. 276 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,120 And that's the biggest thing. 277 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,440 So that leads me to the second thing that's huge. 278 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,880 And in fact, I even put this on social media and I say, you have, this is a lesson I've 279 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,880 learned gang. 280 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,640 You have to live your life as if what Jesus did for you is bigger than what they did to 281 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640 you. 282 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,440 If you can live your life as if what Jesus did for you is bigger than what they did to 283 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,640 you, then the pain will never define you. 284 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,920 I'm not defined by pain. 285 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,760 I'm not defined by someone else's brokenness. 286 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,400 I've had betrayal. 287 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,400 You've had betrayal. 288 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Everybody has had betrayal in their life. 289 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,880 I've had people say things about me that weren't true and some instances, some people, you 290 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,520 know, relatively close. 291 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:34,400 But in the midst of all of that, I say what Jesus did for me on the cross will never be 292 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,360 outdone by what they did to me. 293 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,680 So no matter how much, let's just say someone's throwing rocks at me, right? 294 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,360 I feel that rock hit my body. 295 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,600 I feel the pain of that. 296 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,320 I can see the bruise of that. 297 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Maybe it's scarred me. 298 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Maybe it's broken skin or whatever. 299 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,920 Maybe it's knocked me down like the rocket me, but none of that is greater than when 300 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Jesus puts me on my feet. 301 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000 So when Jesus set me upon the rock, he put me on my feet. 302 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,360 When Jesus sets you on the rock, the rocks, they throw it. 303 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 You can't take you off your feet unless you let them. 304 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,120 And I just refuse. 305 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,200 And I think that understanding of what Jesus did for me is greater than what they did to 306 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,200 me. 307 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,920 It takes me out of victims mentality. 308 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,760 It takes me out of a victim circumstance and put me in a victor circle. 309 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,320 You know, like when you win them horse races, like when they do the big triple crown, they 310 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,320 get in a winner circle. 311 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Right. 312 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,280 And I'm not going to be in a victim mentality. 313 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,680 I'm going to be in a victor circle at the end of the day. 314 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,960 And then I also believe this, no matter how bad it gets, if Jesus is in the equation, 315 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640 the upturn can begin the moment I acknowledge Jesus in my situation. 316 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,360 So things I think are really have been helpful. 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,240 His joy is greater than my pain. 318 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,200 And you have to focus on that. 319 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Because what you focus on at the end of the day, you allow greater access, you give greater 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,760 mental space to. 321 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,840 And in fact, your feelings will follow your optics. 322 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,480 And so if my optics are on the pain and how bad it is, then my feelings follow that before 323 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,560 I know what I've come underneath that instead of being above that. 324 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,680 Oh my goodness. 325 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,120 That's, that's a book. 326 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,640 I mean, that's profound, baby. 327 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640 I love this. 328 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,320 So you're talking about, I just want to take that what you focus on even a step further 329 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,320 if that's okay. 330 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,040 Cause I think that that's such a powerful thing. 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Cause I've watched you receive bad news. 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:22,160 I've, I've watched you get the call that your mom is being rushed to the ER and she passed 333 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,160 away that night. 334 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,160 I was with you. 335 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,160 I was by your side in that moment. 336 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,800 I watched you worship, lean into God, pray. 337 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,640 What is the default setting within you that when you are literally slapped in the face 338 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:41,080 with the most unspeakable, unexpected blind siding pain, what's your default setting that 339 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,720 you just naturally tap into? 340 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,880 Cause I think what our default settings are is key. 341 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,040 It has to be like so practiced within us becomes instinct, right? 342 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Cause you can't really think clearly and highly emotional places and spaces. 343 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,360 And so there's something in our instinctual place that had, had to have been developed 344 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,200 before we get to the crisis. 345 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080 You're practiced in this, you're disciplined in this. 346 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,400 What is those disciplines that you literally activate when the pain comes knocking on your 347 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,400 door? 348 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,920 I think some people run to Jesus when crisis comes, but if you stay in Jesus, you don't 349 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,320 have to run to Jesus. 350 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,680 You know, some people have the false philosophy is stay petty. 351 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,120 So you don't have to get petty. 352 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,880 My thing is stay in Jesus. 353 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,760 So you don't have to go back and get in Jesus when crisis comes. 354 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,400 But here's, I think, another fallacy. 355 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,040 I think a lot of people think that peace is the absence of pain and unmet needs and wants. 356 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,040 They think peace. 357 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,960 And so I want to say this way, peace is not the absence of unmet needs, pains and hurts, 358 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,880 but it's ability to give them the proper status, whatever pain, whatever setback, whatever 359 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,440 thing, give it the proper status in a way that it never drowns out the value of what 360 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,800 you already possess. 361 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,240 You possess Jesus living inside of you, which is heaven. 362 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,400 I don't have to wait till I die to get to heaven, although I believe there's an eternal 363 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,760 resting place called heaven, but I believe that Jesus presence in my soul gives me heaven 364 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,800 in the midst of hell. 365 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,800 So even David, the Psalmist can say in the 23rd Psalm, even though I walk through the 366 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,480 valley of the shadow of death, you are with me. 367 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,360 So what the David is Psalmist is saying, I'm in hell, but I got heaven in me. 368 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:18,320 So I never allow the pain I'm going through me to have an undue status report. 369 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,320 So the proper status is pain has a status, but it's not going to undo what I already 370 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,320 possess. 371 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,320 I possess Jesus. 372 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,640 And so I think you live in a place where you're constantly bringing your mind back to Jesus. 373 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,920 He's mind is stayed on the eskeptum perfect piece. 374 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,640 The prophet says it in the Old Testament. 375 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,360 So I keep my mind on Jesus. 376 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,640 And the other thing is that I think you have to stop. 377 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,280 I know different people look at this differently. 378 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,960 I would say this is that I know what it's like to not have Jesus in my life. 379 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,520 I know what it's like to be depressed out of your gourd to where you wanted to in your 380 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,080 life and then for Jesus to show up and supernaturally. 381 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,800 So I say this, I say my absolute worst day as a believer is infinitely greater than my 382 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000 best life as an unbeliever. 383 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,360 And I feel like some people for themselves, the luxury that in the back of their head, 384 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,160 if it gets too bad, I could go back to what I was doomed to for Jesus. 385 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,280 I burn that plow. 386 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,840 So that option is not there. 387 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,200 So no matter how bad it gets, it's already fixed in my head. 388 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,480 I'm with Jesus. 389 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,840 I have no other option. 390 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,520 You know, when Jesus thinned the crowd out and said, unless you eat my flesh drink, 391 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,840 my blood can't follow me. 392 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,520 And the disciples were kind of going, looking at him like, Jesus, what you said is kind 393 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,520 of harsh. 394 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,800 And Jesus said, do you want to go to? 395 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,560 And Peter, I believe, was the one that responded, Jesus, where are we going to go? 396 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,720 We left all to follow you. 397 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,240 And so he had burned the plow or that one guy, I think the Spaniard conquistador, he 398 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,800 burned the ships so the guys couldn't turn around and go, Cortez, he couldn't, they couldn't, 399 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,600 they couldn't go in retreat. 400 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,880 And so that, those are some things that are very key for me and principles that I try 401 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,400 to abide and try to live by and principles that I've learned. 402 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,400 I love that. 403 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,680 And I, and I see you that I see you practice that. 404 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,920 I think this is why I wanted to interview you about this, because honestly, baby, I think 405 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,720 you're one of the most disciplined people in this area. 406 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,320 And I think you're probably one of the most consistent people I've ever seen that no matter 407 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,280 what you're walking through, literally your worship doesn't change your, your heart for 408 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,200 Jesus, your sweetness, your kindness, your joy, your peace. 409 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,200 It doesn't shift. 410 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,720 And times I marvel because I'm like, man, I want to be like you when I grow up, you're 411 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,720 like my hero. 412 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,720 I'm serious. 413 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Like you're so, you're so steadfast. 414 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560 I am more like, I have to like find my bearings more than you. 415 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,960 You're like just so consistent. 416 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,040 And I ask you these questions privately, but I wanted to make it a public conversation 417 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,960 because I know if I'm asking these questions and I have the privilege of having someone 418 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,040 to ask them to, but a lot of people don't have someone in their life that this is modeled 419 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:50,120 that it's actually possible to walk in a place that is, that is unrelenting in the peace 420 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,880 of God, that you just, there's a steadfastness that you walk in. 421 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,680 So I want to go back to being in the place of feeling out of control and feeling out 422 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,200 of control is when you don't have control, when bad things are happening and it's because 423 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,400 of let's just create a scenario that you and I have both walked in where it's other people's 424 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,960 decisions that affect our life and that causes pain or hurt or chaos. 425 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,880 How do you not get offended? 426 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240 And I know we hit on it with the job description. 427 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,240 I understand that, but I just want to take it even deeper because I think this is where 428 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:28,240 I think we can all get hung up at times as even followers of Jesus that when something 429 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,360 happens that God could stop. 430 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,920 And I know that there's a difference of job description, so I'm not trying to repeat it, 431 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:40,880 but I just think how do you stay unafended at God in the midst of really painful circumstances? 432 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,640 I think some people, it's subtle. 433 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,640 There are a couple of different thoughts. 434 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,520 You have on one end of the spectrum, you have believers, I believe that there's a bit of 435 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,680 North American Christianity, there's a bit of an entitlement. 436 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,680 Like God, you owe me a good life. 437 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,800 You owe me a hashtag best life, loud. 438 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,920 I should prosper. 439 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,920 I should have this. 440 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,920 I should have this. 441 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,920 I should have this. 442 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,080 All you got to do is read Fox's book of martyrs. 443 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,280 All you got to do is see the persecuted underground church, a Corrie 10 boom, different people. 444 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,400 If you look at the disciples, I mean, we talk about how awesome it was in Wabji's. 445 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Hey, all but John was martyred and that dude was thrown in a cauldron of oil and supernaturally 446 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,920 was preserved by God, but he died in exile on the island of Patmel's writing revelation. 447 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,440 So I think on one end of the spectrum is a bit of an entitlement. 448 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,520 The other thing that I think is significant for a lot of believers is to simply recognize 449 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,880 Jesus died. 450 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,320 He suffered bland on a cross, a cruel, dishonorable death. 451 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,800 Death by crucifixion by the Romans was very dishonorable. 452 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,480 I think we lose sight of the fact that the Bible says that we're supposed to enter into 453 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,440 the sufferings of Christ. 454 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,760 We just don't talk about that. 455 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,760 It's not preach. 456 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,400 So I think again, we think that a little bit of like God's a slot machine. 457 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760 I'm going to put my prayer in, pull my hand down. 458 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,440 I'm going to get triple bars all across. 459 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,720 It's going to pay off all my prayers to be answered, everything I wish and want. 460 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800 But here's the other thing that I think is equally as important is that as far as God's 461 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:11,200 concern, we have to recognize your development is more important than your immediate deliverance. 462 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Now I don't mean deliverance from the demonic. 463 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,800 Right. 464 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,800 I don't mean deliverance from hell. 465 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Those things are clear on the spot. 466 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800 God's giving you that. 467 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,840 But I mean deliverance out of a problem, out of a sticky situation, out of a conundrum, 468 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,440 out of in a place of waiting, we think God owes us deliverance, but really God's more 469 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,880 concerned about your development than it is your deliverance. 470 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,600 And that's why Shai Ragnamishak and the Bendigo weren't pulled out of the fire. 471 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,120 They were given the grace to, to endure the fire. 472 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:40,120 They stayed there and they got a revelation of the fourth one in the fire. 473 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,400 They wouldn't have had that had all of a sudden God just like did this thing and angels came 474 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,440 down and will pull them out. 475 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,360 And we forget Joseph man. 476 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,320 I mean, yeah, he was the right hand do to Potiphar. 477 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,280 But the guy had what 13 years before that happened of just being lied upon, being misrepresented, 478 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,780 thrown in prison. 479 00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:01,720 He's doing the right thing, but wrong things happened to him. 480 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Somebody needs to pull right now out the book of Genesis and read a Joseph. 481 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,040 So I think the other thing and how, so how do we get through this? 482 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,800 You can live on one frequency of life that's feelings or you can live on another frequency 483 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,160 of life that's faith. 484 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,600 But so many people want to stay in their feelings. 485 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,080 And I think modern culture feeds feelings in your feelings and everything about feelings 486 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,120 and hip hop artists talk about your feelings and everything's feelings. 487 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,520 And so we want to share our feelings. 488 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,800 Well, I just feel, feel, feel, feel, feel, but the Bible says we walk by faith, not by 489 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,800 sight. 490 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,040 I don't think we should deny our feelings. 491 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:40,000 I just think that we should not give feelings, the airspace or the decision criteria or predominant 492 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760 vote in where our mind and our lives go. 493 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,000 You got to walk by faith. 494 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,520 So somewhere along the line, you got to get in the scripture and declare what is the word 495 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,520 of God say? 496 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,240 What do I know this true about the character of God? 497 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,280 And even if in that point in time say, I don't have a specific scripture I could land on, 498 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000 I don't have a prophetic word or God's not giving me anything. 499 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 I'm just going to believe his character, but I'm going to choose faith. 500 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,400 And if you, if you could get there by feelings, here's what I believe you to God there. 501 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,560 So if you can't get there by feelings, you know, it's, it's almost like we didn't get 502 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,720 to London by car because you can't, you get, we can get to the East coast by car because 503 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,960 we had to get to the East cause we had a direct flight all the way from San Francisco to Heathrow. 504 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880 But you, you would need a boat to get across the water part or you need to go air. 505 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920 So it's almost like you can go by feelings. 506 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,320 That's only going to get you so far. 507 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,480 But if you go by faith, then all of a sudden you're, you're moving from being in a motorized 508 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,280 vehicle on land to now you can go aerial. 509 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,760 And that's what God gives us faith. 510 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080 So we're not limited to, to our feelings. 511 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,840 Oh my gosh, baby, you need to write a book on this. 512 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,960 I'm serious. 513 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,640 You really walk in a revelation the world needs, especially our world today. 514 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 You know, it's interesting you brought up suffering cause I think it is one of probably 515 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,160 one of the most underrated places of discipleship and we want to avoid suffering and difficulty 516 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,560 and pain at all costs. 517 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,200 But when I even reflect on my own life, it's actually the places of extended pain and suffering 518 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,840 that have created the deepest root system within me. 519 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,680 And I look at the places of breakthrough that have become sweeter because of the delayed 520 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,680 waiting. 521 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,120 And that's one of my life I've waited for promises. 522 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,400 This isn't true for everyone, but just speaking from my own story, my own experience, the 523 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,560 Lord has allowed me to have extended seasons of waiting for deep desires and promises in 524 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,560 my life. 525 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,840 And when that sweet, when that breakthrough happened, when that prayer got answered, i.e. 526 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Mary knew I waited 20 years and it wasn't all suffering, but there was times of suffering. 527 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040 There was times of pain in it. 528 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,400 So when you came into my life, when I didn't expect it cause it was so laid down, but that 529 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,240 laid down that like that depth, that root system that God had developed within me, it 530 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,160 was like how much sweeter was it because it was just so it was so given to God. 531 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,160 But I also look back of what he developed between him and me and my identity and God, 532 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,480 my trust, my surrender in him, all areas I can still continue to grow in, but I still 533 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,320 had significant growth during those times in those years of extended waiting. 534 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,760 So I just want to encourage the listener today that's going, my gosh, Christa, Sean, I'm 535 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,000 in such a hard season. 536 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,480 It's just been going on and on. 537 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,000 We want you to know we've been there and we understand and we want to encourage you that 538 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,560 God's actually going to use your pain in a place of discipleship and you're actually 539 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,160 going to grow and deepen it. 540 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,640 There's purpose in the pain. 541 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,600 I actually find that incredibly encouraging because I'd much rather have purpose than 542 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,680 I'm just going through it for no reason. 543 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,280 I feel like that promise that God uses everything for his glory, everything. 544 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000 That means the good, the bad, the ugly. 545 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,200 He uses it all, uses it places of pain for his glory. 546 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,560 That means I'm going to see fruit in my life from it, whether it be breakthrough, whether 547 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,680 it just be a sweeter place of intimacy between Jesus and I, which that alone is enough. 548 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,560 But I just recognize, which I'm hearing you say, the deepest places of discipleship and 549 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:04,040 growth in who we are come in extended seasons of pain and suffering. 550 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,040 Yes. 551 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,840 The Bible is very clear about that, that we would know him who, and part of it, the part 552 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320 we leave out is the fellowship of his suffering. 553 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520 There's a place and you alluded to it of intimacy of knowing God by going through it. 554 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Here's what I say. 555 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Like don't waste your wildernesses. 556 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,840 Like let your wildernesses be something that at the end of the day propels you into your 557 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,280 promised lands because if you don't have wildernesses, you won't have promised lands. 558 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800 God started us off with that typology right from the jump. 559 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,040 He pulled his people, the nation of Israel. 560 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,920 He pulled them out of bondage, but they had to go through the wilderness before they could 561 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,520 get into the promised land. 562 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,440 And the wilderness is your training place. 563 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,240 David, he's out the backside of a wilderness. 564 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Moses backside of a wilderness. 565 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Jesus backside of a wilderness. 566 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,160 It just goes on and on and on. 567 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,160 And the Bible is clear too. 568 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,320 The Bible says it and inheritance gain hurriedly in the beginning when I'll be blessed in the 569 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,320 end. 570 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920 And this thing doesn't, doesn't happen just because you grind it. 571 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,680 You know, like we think, Hey, team grind. 572 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 I'll just work harder and man, I'll just grind it. 573 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200 Man, I'll get my entrepreneurial idea up and going. 574 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,800 Man, I'm going to be super successful. 575 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Man, I'll get my little music thing and I'm trying to produce or I'll get this other little, 576 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360 you know, Instagram, you know, influencer deal going in the kingdom. 577 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,440 You don't want your stuff overnight because if you get it overnight, you can lose it overnight. 578 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,640 And that, that even when they look at people and they say, Oh man, that guy or that gal, 579 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320 their ministry, they blew up overnight. 580 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,320 No, no, no. 581 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,120 I understand that overnight, what it looked to you was like 30 years for them, 25 years 582 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760 for them, 20 years for them, 10 years, because the worst thing that could ever happen, right? 583 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Is you get a platform, but you don't have the character. 584 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,320 And so somewhere along the line, you've got to form that character with dealing with the 585 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,260 contradictions, dealing with those times of waiting, dealing, uh, processing pain. 586 00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:57,160 That's why the worst thing someone could do is let pain take them out when in fact God 587 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,160 allowed pain. 588 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,160 Yeah. 589 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,160 I'm not saying he sent it. 590 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320 I'm not saying it to take you in, not take you out. 591 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,480 So if you really process it with the Lord, it can actually be your Uber car, Uber drive 592 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920 into the promises that God has for you. 593 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,080 So it's just so important. 594 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,280 So many people that when there's no things you can't wrap your head around, you don't 595 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,920 understand, you don't know. 596 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160 Trust me, every single person you respect, they've been through it. 597 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,160 And if they've not been through it, truth be told, they'll probably not be able to endure 598 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,960 the success or the pressure or everything else that comes. 599 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,960 You have to have character. 600 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,960 And then what we're seeing that, no matter what, we're seeing that. 601 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840 No matter what venue today, whether it's professional athletes, whether it's in Hollywood, whether 602 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,040 it's in the music industry, whether it's in IT, whether it's in finance, you're seeing 603 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,440 people make horrible decisions and it's because some of them took shortcuts and you, you don't 604 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,840 want shortcuts. 605 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,560 And the thing is, is that when you don't have control, you have to learn how to trust the 606 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,960 one who is in control. 607 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,120 Trust is, is, is lesson number one in the kingdom. 608 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Uh, in fact, one of the words for faith is actually the word trust. 609 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,320 And if you don't learn to trust Jesus, you'll never get past Christianity one on one. 610 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Hey, you're, you're a baby and Paul says, Hey, uh, you, you guys, you've been here. 611 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680 You need to have moved on from the milk. 612 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,080 You need to move on to the meat. 613 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,440 And so he's challenging them. 614 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400 You've got to go deeper and going deeper is going in a walk of trust. 615 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,400 It's a, it's a, it isn't a blind faith, but at times it's, it's a walk where you won't 616 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,160 have sight in the natural. 617 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Yeah. 618 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,160 You only have visibility. 619 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Yeah. 620 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240 You only have sight by faith and by knowing the one who's leading you. 621 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240 That's true. 622 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,040 And that sight and faith and just the knowing came from the places of having to trust him 623 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,480 when you couldn't see, it didn't make sense. 624 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,240 And you didn't have the visibility. 625 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,600 You didn't have the strong encounter. 626 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,440 You didn't have the loud voice or wasn't not the prophetic word. 627 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,880 There wasn't the powerful encounter. 628 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,960 You're not getting people that people aren't praying for you. 629 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,840 It's in the really quiet, silent place in God's like, but who do you say I am? 630 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Who do you say I am? 631 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,760 And you're able to say who he is that he's still healer, even with the diagnosis, you're 632 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760 able to stay. 633 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880 You're still good even in the midst of the contradiction, the pain and the suffering 634 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,920 and something I've learned in extended seasons of suffering and you brought this up in the 635 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:10,280 area of trust is, you know, really for me, surrender is so required in those places of 636 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880 suffering in order to tap into the trust. 637 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,680 I can only tap into the deeper places of trusting God because the deeper I surrender, it means 638 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,880 the greater I trust. 639 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760 I can't surrender where I don't trust. 640 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040 And it really God is looking for full surrender. 641 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,200 I can only fully surrender where I fully trust him. 642 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,280 So when he's asking me like Sam Abraham, Isaac moment, he's saying, can you give me the 643 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,280 son? 644 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Right. 645 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,280 And I'm like, okay, I can give you a leg. 646 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,280 I can give you an arm. 647 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,880 He's like, no, no, I want the whole child. 648 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,880 I'm like, I'm still holding on to one arm. 649 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,240 And I have, and I've had that process where God's like, can I have the whole child? 650 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560 And I'm like, I'll give you three quarters. 651 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,920 And then I'm noticed I'm still holding on, which means I'm still striving. 652 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,800 I'm still trying to do it on my own. 653 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,000 And I don't find that place of rest, right, because I'm not surrendering. 654 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,840 And so for those of you that have struggled, maybe like myself, where you have just had 655 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,760 a lack of rest, there's even maybe been anxiety you've been dealing with. 656 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,360 It's because God's invited you in to a deeper place of surrender, which means a deeper place 657 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200 of trust, deeper the trust, deeper the rest. 658 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160 And so that's something I'm walking out. 659 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,280 That's something I'm still learning. 660 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,520 I feel like I'm just continuing that journey of always trying to go deeper and I walk with 661 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Jesus. 662 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,400 But I feel like someone today needs to hear that. 663 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,480 I know that when you're in those places of just feeling the pain and the hardship and 664 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800 you're going, why can I find this place of peace? 665 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,960 And God's just inviting you to go even deeper, like beyond capacity. 666 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,960 And what is he doing? 667 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,600 He's expanding your tent pegs. 668 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520 He's taking you to a deeper place of trusting in him. 669 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240 You know, right along those lines, I was thinking about when Jesus said to Peter, he says, 670 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded permission to sift you as wheat. 671 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,640 And if I'm Peter, I'm thinking, and you're toe to no, right? 672 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,360 And of course, Jesus goes on and he says, I prayed for you so that after you have returned, 673 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,440 in other words, after you get back up on your feet, you will strengthen your brothers. 674 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,600 So what is the principle? 675 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,680 The takeaway principle from that is this. 676 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,440 What many of us call a faith crisis, heaven calls a faith catalyst. 677 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,720 Like that was a faith crisis. 678 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,360 His Satan demanded permission. 679 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,480 That was Peter denied Jesus three times when he was apprehended. 680 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,720 He didn't, he said, no, I don't know the man. 681 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:11,720 No, I don't know the man. 682 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:13,520 He called curses down on himself. 683 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,840 That was a crisis of faith. 684 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,360 You could look at him like he could have walked around, moped. 685 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,080 Total deconstruction, walked away from God, went out in the world, went back in a sense. 686 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,240 He went back to fishing. 687 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,080 But Jesus told him after you get back on your feet, strengthen your brothers, what do we 688 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,080 know about Peter? 689 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,880 Simon Peter stands up on the day of Pentecost, preaches the church's first sermon. 690 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,960 He is kind of the rock of the early church until we see Paul come on this scene. 691 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,280 Really he kind of takes more of a leadership role, probably about Acts 13. 692 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,480 So from Acts two to Acts 13, it's really about Peter. 693 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600 But what we would call a crisis of faith. 694 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120 Somebody right now is going through something, they go, oh man, I'm in a crisis of faith. 695 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,760 I challenge you to redefine and turn the narrative and recognize it's not a crisis of faith, 696 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,120 it's a catalyst of faith. 697 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,680 You're going to receive something that will bring strength to other people and will actually 698 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,920 be your superpower at the end of the day. 699 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,880 And so I, I, I'm like, I look at it like, okay, it feels like a crisis, but it will, 700 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160 if I stay with Jesus, it will be a catalyst. 701 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600 My goodness, baby, you're amazing. 702 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,600 I love your revelation. 703 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,600 You're sweet, Paul. 704 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,600 You're sweet. 705 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600 You're sweet. 706 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 It's just, it's just a nice conversation, you know, I just, I think I want someone to 707 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,640 walk away with a practical and I think that whenever you're going through a hard place, 708 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,880 a place of suffering, a place of pain, the enemy's always going after redefining who 709 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,880 God is. 710 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,480 You talked about it before you said it really well. 711 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,640 There's a war over job descriptions and we often get them confused. 712 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,200 You said this statement, I thought it was really powerful to keep our minds focused on Christ. 713 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,840 That to me, there's the war. 714 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,860 It's what do we, what do we keep our focus on? 715 00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:41,860 Where do we set up? 716 00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:43,920 How do we set our, what do we set our minds upon? 717 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,320 Maybe that's the best way to say it. 718 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,760 Just with kind of that takeaway concept that we have with the Keefer 100 tribe, how do 719 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,120 people do that practically? 720 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,820 What's that takeaway when someone is walking through something difficult? 721 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:57,360 How do they set their mind on Christ? 722 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,040 I think when you're feeling that pain, you're feeling that longing, you're feeling that 723 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,560 loss, let that, in the same way, when you feel hunger, hunger pains or pains, they call 724 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,240 it, it moves you towards food, right? 725 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,720 If you feel like, oh man, my stomach's growling, I better go eat. 726 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,720 Like what's going on? 727 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720 I'm hungry. 728 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,600 You're feeling loss, you're feeling lonely, you're feeling pain, you're feeling demoralized. 729 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,880 Let that be, if you will, that inner prompting to go, I immediately need to press into Jesus. 730 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,040 I think that many times we take a step back when we allow the substitutes. 731 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,000 So I think one of the early things is that when you're feeling stuff going, trying to 732 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,040 go south, don't get in your head, get in your heart. 733 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,720 You're getting in your head, you're immediately trying to know how bad it is. 734 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:39,760 Oh, I can't believe why am I going through this? 735 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,240 Hey, I, I, I'm trying to figure out some solutions. 736 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:43,240 All that. 737 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,920 Instead, go to your heart and say, Lord, I need you. 738 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,920 What is it? 739 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,920 I'm feeling pain. 740 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Just be honest with the Lord, talk to the Lord. 741 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,640 I think those are so key that you include Jesus in it. 742 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,920 Don't let your problems separate you from your Redeemer. 743 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160 Allow it to draw you nearer to your Redeemer. 744 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,640 And so you think about it, all the words for God is he's Joe Verrafa, he's Joe Vanesys, 745 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,800 Genova, Sid Canoe, what are those? 746 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,200 If you go back and research all the origins of when God's name was revealed, it was because 747 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,080 his people had the absolute opposite of that. 748 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,720 So they discovered, you know, Hagar's in the middle of wilderness, there's no water, her 749 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:20,720 and her son's going to die. 750 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,520 Ah, he's Jehovah Rohe, a God who sees me when they're like discovering they're about to 751 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,520 die. 752 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,520 I don't know. 753 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,520 I think it was from snake bites. 754 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,920 They go, oh, it's, he's Jehovah Rafa. 755 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,760 So they get a deeper revelation of God meeting their need because in their pain, in their 756 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,240 lack, in their contradiction, they look to the Lord and he was able to come through for 757 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,240 them. 758 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,680 And that needs to be the cue that we follow as well. 759 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,680 That would be my takeaway. 760 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,680 Wow. 761 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,680 That is so good. 762 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,680 Keep on head of tribe. 763 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,360 I don't know about you, but I was incredibly blessed and ministered to by this episode, 764 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880 just being around it. 765 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,680 I get to live with this man of God every day. 766 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,280 I wanted you guys to hear the wisdom that he walks in because he's been one that's really 767 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,280 impacted my life. 768 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200 I ask him these kinds of questions all the time. 769 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,880 And I felt like this was an important conversation because I think so many people are going through 770 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,080 really hard things right now. 771 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680 And I just felt this truth and revelation was so key to share it with all of you. 772 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640 For any of you that are going through really difficult and hard times, I want you to be 773 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,640 encouraged today. 774 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,640 You're not forgotten. 775 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,560 You're not overlooked and you're not not seen. 776 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,520 You have a God who loves you, who pursues you, who sees you and he's with you. 777 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560 And I just want you to know God's going to get you through it where your ad is not your 778 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,120 permanent location, but we have a God who does breakthrough. 779 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640 He is the God of Baal, Parism, the Lord of the breakthrough. 780 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,360 And I just want to speak hope over you. 781 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,920 I want to speak blessing over you and I want you to know God has you and be encouraged 782 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,920 today. 783 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,480 Thanks so much for tuning into the Keep It 100 podcast. 784 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,440 Make sure to rate, review and refer us to your friends and be sure to click that subscribe 785 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400 button so that you're alerted as soon as new episodes drop. 786 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,840 Help us get the word out, share this link on your social media platforms and check us 787 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160 out at SeanandChristasmith.com. 788 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680 You can also find us on Facebook at Sean and ChrisTismith Ministries. 789 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,600 We would love to hear from you on how this podcast has impacted you, so be sure to show 790 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,600 us some love. 791 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,360 A Keep It 100 Tribe, you do not want to miss our next episode. 792 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:26,440 And remember, relief may change your circumstance, but a revelation will change you.