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Well hey in this episode we are going to have an incredible interview a little bit later
but we want to start off and let you guys know this week in a couple days.
Oh my gosh three days.
Three days.
We are going to have the healing and deliverance masterclass and this thing has been so long
in preparation.
It's been in our hearts to do this for a multiplicity of reasons but probably one of the biggest
reasons and we've talked about this is we're seeing an uptick in deliverance.
You know and we really recognize this is going to be a key gathering to train and equip the
body of Christ to train and equip believers on not only how to walk in freedom for themselves
but how to lead people through both healing and deliverance and we're really passionate
about people being equipped and trained and confidently knowing who they are in Christ
and really walking what it is in freedom and helping bring freedom to other people's
lives.
This is so true because Jesus over and over again in the gospels he first declared that
he gave his disciples his followers authority to heal the sick and to cast out devils and
you think he's given us such an authority but yet so often it seems like it's not the
norm in the modern North American church.
You know maybe it is in the church of Africa maybe it is in the church of South America
but if Jesus is and I looked at statistics one third of Jesus ministry boo was casting
out devils like 60 some odd percent of it was healing so that leaves just like like
single digits where maybe he fed the multitudes he stopped the storm you know and obviously
raising the dead as part of healing so so much of his ministry was healing and deliverance
and yet it seems like it's such a rarity in our churches today.
You know I think there's been an increase in real uptick of deliverance because we are
seeing a greater authority in the body of Christ at this hour.
I think kind of all that shallow waters that people were content with in previous seasons
of the church we really are in a new era we're in a new time where people have cut out the
nonsense they've cut off cut out kind of the pump and circumstance kind of all the flash
and all the shiny stuff and they really just are desperate there's a fresh desperation which
has increased a greater authority.
When people get desperate they're going after a genuine move of God a genuine counter people
are throwing stuff and I think deliverance has have also increased because people are
getting more honest and they're more desperate and they're willing to actually say this is
what's actually going on this is what I need help with and I feel like you actually said
this baby you felt like you got some revelation as to why we weren't seeing deliverance is
in North America and that's because the demonic was kind of stealth and there was enough power
behind the pulpit right and we have seen such an increase of the power I feel like in the
even from people ministering that it really has caused the demonic to surface we've seen
that in our local church we've seen that in our gatherings we've seen that as we've traveled
and it's been really beautiful that there's just a sovereignty of the demonic cannot stay
hidden because the power and the presence of God literally causes it to come out.
I think it's to your point I think in modern North American church and not to be negative
just observation here is that I think we've gotten good at referring out when people have
struggles like we'll we'll firm out to Christian counselors we're firm which we believe in
that is the place for that we'll refer them out hey you need to see a specialist in this
area hey you need to go and I think we have gotten better at referring out but we've gotten
worse at casting out I think there's certain things and instead of referring people out
I think we need to just begin to believe God lay hands and pray and ask God to show up
and show off in a way that he's given us authority and you guys I just want to throw this pitch
out there if you're not able to come and be in person with us at the healing and deliverance
masterclass we have a little phrase if you can't go live go live stream you go to www
www.SeanandChristasmith.com right now you can sign up and get our entire healing and deliverance
masterclass live stream to you wherever you're at whatever nation you're at you can get it
live streaming so you could be a part of this equipping and we'll we'll take a little bit
more about that even a little bit later but I just want to continue you and I are also
instructors we've got we'll be teaching at this session is what I mean by that we have
Joanne Moody who she's incredible she's gonna be talking about healing praying for the sick
and just how to operate in that gift of healing and at the same time what do you do when because
you were talking to her today what do you do when you pray someone and they don't get
healed I love that that's what she's gonna be hitting on I'm super excited she's really
gonna help people with a walk away a takeaway prayer model for physical healing but then
there are those times where you go through the whole model you pray for the person they
don't get healed and what do you do when you hit those walls she's gonna give really practical
takeaways on what to do and I love that because I'm not give me all the like tools of my tool
belt that I can get and Jeremy Nelson he's just he is really gifted in the area of deliverance
as well so is Joanne we're just in there both can literally teach about the other subject
but we're having them focus on these specific topics and we've asked Jeremy to focus on
deliverance and what I love is he too is gonna share some really powerful testimonies and
stories and then give again the people the practical how to's on how to lead people through
deliverance yes and I got a chance to talk to him one of his sessions he's gonna deal
with generational curses and generational bondages that pass down sometimes you know
we were talking some people have certain weaknesses in the character or predispositions towards
certain iniquities not knowing that in a sense it was a giant that was not defeated in the
previous generation and all of a sudden that go live comes to the new generation and then
the next one he's gonna talk about I think something very much more common than we want
to really admit because I think we've become so rationalistic and we become in a sense
so cerebral that we forget the spirit realm is very real and so he's gonna talk about
divination in the sense of witchcraft and how that comes against people and then other
particular spirits that people are fighting that come to intimidate folks today and how
to get folks free and we both know just how important that is and I'm super excited that
you and I are also instructors so hey want you share with some of our listeners what
it is that God has put on your heart that you're gonna share yeah I'm really gonna be
talking about how to tear down strongholds I'm really passionate about helping people
get to a place of mental and emotional freedom and healing and I think it's because of my
own personal journey I walked through some years where I really battled I'm so different
things emotionally and mentally and I'll be sharing that at the master class and I felt
like the Lord led me through a season where I experienced partial freedom but it was a
whole process and a journey where till I walked into full freedom and I'm actually gonna share
the tools and the revelation the resources that really helped me walk in that in my own
life and now I'm able to pray that through a lot of people and it's actually quite simple
but they're just practical how to's of how not to partner with things how what doors
to open what doors to shut and really how to tear down a stronghold take thoughts captive
and walk in the freedom that is our inheritance so I'm really excited about that so I feel
like mine's really fundamental I'm really a foundational teaching really for every believer
so I'm just excited because it brought so much freedom to my life and I think we're
always excited to share something that has been impactful for you you know and I'm gonna
have two sessions the first session I'm gonna talk about kind of the spiritual authority
a set of foundation as to how and why we can believe that healing and deliverance should
flow freely from us as believers and then my second one I'm gonna literally take you
if you will into a deliverance session and share with you exactly how to deal with someone
getting free and how to deal if there's demonic resistance so it's gonna be very practical
and I think it will fit in and when I was thinking about the whole aspect of authority
proper relationship with God means you exercise authority in one sense God has done everything
he's going to do in terms of the devil the Bible says he's put Satan underneath our
feet so if the enemies held in check and God is sovereign obviously there are areas that
that God does hold the devil in check but it's up to his body his representatives on
earth to rebuke him to drive him back to resist him fact the Bible tells us submit to God
resist the devil he will flee doesn't just say submit to God he will flee there's an
aspect of resistance and I was thinking about just a couple things that I would I feel will
help people and and just some nuggets I just I even want to share with our listeners right
now and here's the deal you have authority regardless of how you feel I think there were
times coming up that I kind of felt if I went to a fiery service and man I entered in the
worship and whoever preached released a faith I felt something I could walk from that meeting
and their their instances of that where I took on a guy named Vincent who lived next door
to me after a service but then maybe sometimes that feeling isn't there and come out of a
fiery service and you need to understand that just like regardless of whether or not I feel
married I am married and by the way I love being married to anyone listening should know
I love this I love this woman in front of me but I'm married whether I feel like it or
not so here's the thing you have authority based on a covenant whether you feel like
it or not and here's the thing when two people that have authority or come against each other
or maybe I should say like this when one with authority confronts another with authority
the one with the greater backing has the upper hand and you have to understand you have all
of heaven heaven backing you the enemy his powers derive it's limited in fact it's borrowed
it's stolen like Adam and Eve were given authority and then obviously they give it to the enemy
but Jesus came took it back and he says all authorities have been given to me now you
go and so I think that's important the other thing is I feel like Jesus in you should never
shrivel before the devil because Christ never shriveled before the enemy he met Satan mono
a mano in Luke chapter four in the wilderness he did not back down and Jesus in you should
never shrivel before the enemy I've got all these different thoughts but ultimately here's
one when I tell people our authority is not just based on what Jesus did to the devil
but what he did for us so if you come or you tune in and you watch I'm going to share with
you what Jesus did for you so you know your authority is not just that he took captivity
kept if he triumphed over the devil but he did something for you and if you know what
he did for you you will never walk in a lack of authority and you will never let the enemy
get a foothold on you in fact you will keep them underneath this your feet that's so good
I'm excited to hear your sessions I literally I'm so excited to hear everyone's sessions
because I ever I forever want to be a student so I'm just looking so forward to being trained
to quit myself because I always think there's more we can learn there's more we can grow
and so again get your seat whether it's virtual or in person we will see you July 2028 and
29th here in the bay okay with that being said we're diving into a powerful conversation
with literally one of Sean and I's favorite people Chris Alderjuice the first time I met
him and hugged him I was like I love this guy is one of the best hearts you guys are
going to be a part of a really intimate vulnerable conversation between him and Sean he's a passionate
anointed worship leader he has such a beautiful heart for Jesus he's been through such a journey
and come out so sweet before the Lord he's just an amazing man of God and he's married
to our beloved LTV just she's family to us and she works with us on our team and so just
get ready for this powerful conversation because it's just power packed with truce revelation
and it's going to pull you deeper into your intimacy with Jesus.
Hey keep it 100 tried I am so excited for you guys right now man we got my boy Chris
in the room Chris Alderjuice and man he's a mighty man of God Chris what's up what's
up man I am so excited to be here it's like surreal but you know your family so it's
just a normal conversation that people get to see.
I love that man hey we had a time the other day listeners we decided that we were going
to have like a team fun day because we all run together with momentum and revival our
momentum meetings if you guys are aware of that and then all the different master classes
different conferences and Chris is very intricately involved in that so we went out to Napa man
we got on bikes we rode like 20 miles dude.
It was crazy like I was like trying to keep up with Sean and Chris they were leading the
pack but we did it we weren't the ugly duckling all the way in the back we was with the fan
we kept it going.
We got a chance to see how the other side of the economic scale live man houses was crazy
man.
It was cool how we were all prophetically picking our homes our future homes mansions in Napa
Valley ain't nothing like it.
Nothing like it man with beautiful views it was beautiful day we ate at this incredible
farm stand.
Farm stand.
It was incredible you told us about these pork chops with spicy jalapeno grits.
Oh my goodness it was so good so good.
You guys I love Chris for so many reasons and number one he is he's Gen Z to the bone
in so many respects but he's almost like if you think of generations in terms of wisdom
he's like a builder generation you know as a Tom Brokaw called that the greatest generation
and so I just love the wisdom so we're going to jump right in this Chris one of the things
we like to do here keeping 100 is we like to find out people's origin stories so tell
us Chris at what point and how did the Holy Spirit make Jesus real to you.
Man so you know growing up my family is from Haiti and so they immigrated here and I was
fortunate enough to be born here in the States but being from Florida my family went to this
very small hasten church in Broward County Florida shout out to the 954 people and for
me it was strange right because I'm gonna I'm a first generation born American in my
family but we're going to this hasten church and they would speak French and Creole and
I always remember loving the music but and falling asleep when they were preaching the
word mostly because I didn't speak French so I didn't understand all that they were
saying but I could connect with the music with the rhythms and sing the songs because
I could read a Creole which is kind of like a derivative of French to some degree but
the French language was just too hard for me at the time and so you know that was my
journey until I was about 13 14 and then I started working with my dad overnight because
that was my excuse to not go to church on Sunday morning my dad being the good daddy
that he was worked three or four jobs my whole life Wow and I was able to help him with the
overnight one because his other job as a bartender wouldn't end early enough so I could get there
at 11 and meet him and he'll meet me at like three o'clock in the morning and we were just
throwing newspapers around the neighborhood that's what it was from 13 till about I graduated
high school and bro you're getting up at three o'clock in the morning dude yeah you're you
are hustling and grinding grinding man he's trying to help my dad and and so I stopped
going to church because I couldn't go to church I was up so late and so I would just sleep
in and it's crazy because after I graduated high school my mom being the good mom that
she was was just sick of her son sleeping in on Sundays and that was one of the points
of contention with my family and so she fought for my Sunday mornings back and made me attend
this small little AG church in my neighborhood and it's American church and my life was forever
changed what that's where I found my best friend I found community I got saved oddly
enough which is probably another story for another day I actually was serving volunteering
as a worship leader even before I had my own personal relationship with Jesus but the friendships
I've made I'm still close to those people till this day and that was the moment that
changed my life forever wow forever I will never forget it was Easter in 2009 I sang
this song it basically the song is called a hiding place yes and I didn't realize what
I was singing and then as I'm singing it I'm just sensing the presence of God and literally
the Lord used ministry to minister to me and I'm forever grateful but I'd say that's you
know that's the beginning for me and change my life man that's so problem and obviously
to go from a service where you weren't really understanding the word you know obviously that
was a big part of it but yet although you didn't understand you know there was a familiarity
you know I'm sure the spirit of God was there so when you got to the point where you could
start understanding yeah start connecting seeing other people sound like there were more people
your age that you could connect with exact and then what was it kind of like a point
in the word where man the word began to convict you was a point where you just felt the love
of God was it a point just in worship where your heart began to connect was it kind of
a an amalgamation of all of them yeah was it for you I'd say I mean the first moment
that I could remember I got invited to attend the youth group and so I did and I remember
this worship leader singing the song from the inside out by no song yeah and it wrecked
me and I you know I I tend to think that worship music is a sermon with music to it that's
how I like to look at it and the words that really really just just touched my heart was
a thousand times I failed still your mercy remained and still I stumbled again but I'm
caught in your grace everlasting your light will shine when all else fades never ending
your glory goes beyond all fame and for me being in high school those four years were
the best four years of my adolescence like I know most people are like oh I hated high
school I was one of the rare people that loved it I found myself you know I was just super
confident I was into sports and into music I was just kind of all over the place and
I had a good time but all my friends went away to college so I felt like a piece of me was
gone I was the only one that stayed back and at the same time my mom's like no you're
gonna go to church and the Lord filled that void with his love with his acceptance and
then also brought in some really really good solid people who've been doing the church thing
much longer than I at the time to kind of walk alongside of me and to encourage me and be
an extension of his love and his grace and his kindness and just that community man and
we all served together like it just was amazing and it's exactly what I needed in that time.
Hey man so you came up obviously Gen Z man you came up in the entire T of your come up
was the digital age oh you had access to social media all that stuff you guys are the first
generation so in high school man with all the preparations because you're at a public
high school you know right?
Yeah.
So you're at a public high school but you're standing for God the pulls and everything
how did you navigate that whole peer pressure social media social conformity, sway spirit
of the world versus walking right before God?
I actually didn't do a good job at this at first.
I love your honesty.
Honestly I was struggling I thought I had to live a double life I thought okay because
a lot of the people that I went to school with didn't go to church with me it was kind
of easy yeah and so like I kind of had two different lives until a friend from this church
youth group that I was a part of told me hey yo like you can't be living a double life
like you can't be up here leading worship and then on the back end just doing whatever
you want.
Now I was always like you know I was always a life of the party but I just never by the
grace of God I never like even dabbled with drugs or alcohol that just wasn't my thing
I'm growing up in a pretty affluent area a lot of I experienced a lot of like drunk driving
deaths with some of my friends in high school so that kind of just deterred me from even
wanting to play with that but I was still at all the parties I was still there just never
really participated but then I realized when I had this conversation with that person like
oh man like the same Jesus who died gave everything for me I'm only giving him a piece of me.
So I instantly made the decision like hey okay I'm not gonna do this anymore and I just
was sold out ever since.
That is amazing man you know let me ask you this Chris how did you recognize that worship
gift those of you there listening Chris is an amazing worship leader and when I say worship
leader some people they're good at the worship they're not good at the leading or some people
are good at the leading not as strong in the worship Chris is equally strong his bicep
and tricep in the air in a boat popping when it comes to worship and leading others into
worship and leading teams how'd you recognize that worship gift on your life bro.
Well first sensei we call Sean sensei man you're so kind thank you that is super super
kind you know so at the same church my mom you know everyone you know if you have a
good relationship with your mom you know that moms tend to see you as like a six year old
or an eight year old they have this one memory of you no matter how old you get that's the
only way they see you and when I was a kid she had put us in this little kids choir and
so we used to sing with them do all these like Kirk Franklin hits that's kind of was
the beginning yeah I didn't really quite understand it was just fun and I had to do it my mom
made me do it but fast forward I started attending this church and I remember I had shoulder
surgery so my arm was in a sling and I just was like just you know kind of set my mom's
making me wake up early and go to this church I don't know anybody here I'd rather go work
with my dad and whatever the case may be but she calls over the singer pastor now my mom
is the quietest shy it's like she won't do that but she felt like yo I need the attention
the senior pastor calls him over and says hey my son sings make him join the choir this
is what she says and I'm like oh my gosh what are you doing and so the guys like yo we have
rehearsal on Wednesday you should come me being me I tend to be a little bit of a yes
man and I didn't want to embarrass my mom so I just was like okay I'll go and so I decided
to ghost this is crazy right literally the next day that Monday I'm leaving to ghost hungry
so I was gonna go get breakfast I get into a car accident right in front of the church
oh wow like I hit this car this car hit me head on collision both cars total loss like
so the church was right outside of my neighborhood and I hit like we hit each other right in
front of the church I get out the car I go see if that other person's okay that person
ends up being one of the youth group members that attends this church and she was kind
of like the princess of the house you know those church people that's like everybody
loves her everyone she's a part of everyone's family this was her and I'm like oh my gosh
and no one knows me from a can of paint and so okay that whole thing happens and you know
the cops do what they do and you know we figure all that stuff out and I still decided to
go to this rehearsal and I go there and the choir director is asking hey does anyone
need prayer requests and the choir member goes oh you know pray for this person this
girl and you know somebody you know hit them in a car accident was kind of like talking
bad a little bit not knowing that I was in the room and so I kind of like interrupted
and was like oh that that was me I don't know why I did that and I know this is a long answer
to a very short question um but that was the beginning of me serving in worship this was
literally the beginning of me serving in worship and um from there I just had the confidence
I don't even know like where it came from to just stick it out and I did and then from
that the youth pastor needed a young person to lead youth worship for youth Sunday which
was a big thing where they allowed the youth group to lead worship on Sunday morning take
over the Sunday morning service and I was the youngest person in the choir he's like
he took me out to coffee um at Starbucks and was like hey I need you to lead worship for
my youth group on youth Sunday I didn't even really know what that meant but I just said
okay I can help out I have time I'm free and um so I remember talking to some of the the
other students who are involved like hey I'm thinking about doing this song it was Days
of Elijah and back then that was considered an old song I was only around the adults the
Sunday morning adults and that's when he gave me um a Hillsong United CD and was like listen
to this pig songs from this we're young this is what we do and I was like okay this is
my peer like we're probably like a year between age so but I was just always with the adults
I didn't know um anything else and that Sunday morning lo and behold we did some younger songs
and I led worship and that was literally beginning I remember I was so bold that I did this altar
call what yes I called the whole congregation to the front and worship was supposed to be
15 minutes this was at least 45 minutes no one gave me the real like instructions I just
was free I was bold I went for it had charisma and it was during that service where I accepted
the Lord Savior as as Lord Jesus as my savior wow that was my whole altar call I was like
hey everyone needs to come up here and pray for someone else I actually have this video
on YouTube which is hilarious and I just called everyone up and if you don't have a relationship
with Jesus now's your chance and I didn't realize I was talking to myself man bro and I was
weeping and I was crying and that was the beginning that was the beginning moment where
I started realizing I think this is what I want to do for the rest of my life wow this
is eerily similar there was during a UK revival back in the day there was this preacher and
he was preaching and so obviously he had made a commitment he said yes to the call of God
but he must not have been worried needed to be with the Lord he preached a message and
while he was preaching the message he came under conviction and got saved under his
whole own message and revival broke out and so I just think man what an incredible way
that you both discovered your worship gift but at the same time God made himself like
supremely real to you and that was just that's that's amazing now Chris because I know you
and I know your story you know our stories is what happens when you do life together
and I'm blessed to do it you had a wilderness chapter inside of you know how you have different
chapters in your life and if God I think it was if you've listened to keep you 100 any
amount of time you've heard me quote the AW does your quote that before God uses a man
greatly he must first crush him deeply and although we don't like that it's so that
God can get our character in a place where our character can platform our gifts because
if your character isn't ready when you start putting on the weight of people recognizing
you it it usually is a self sabotage wrong way forward kind of situation but you went
through a witness experience and the thing that I love for our leaders our listeners
to hear the several different components but I don't know if I ever know a dude that was
in revival kind of maybe at a certain point because of their own space and place kind
of burned out in it and then God seriously revived at a whole other level you know usually
that doesn't happen but anyway tell us your wilderness experience man man so you know
I was attending this great church in Fort Lauderdale amazing church this was where I
learned so much about not my like not only myself but ministry worship revival like we
had a revival that was supposed to be like three days ended up being like nine weeks
or something crazy like that and I was young I had to be like 24 I was really really really
young and just zealous and excited to serve and what I missed was I didn't know how to
personally sustain the amount that I was giving and I look back now and of course like in
the time like I wanted to blame everything else right I wanted to blame leadership I
wanted to blame this I wanted to blame that I wanted to blame my friends I wanted to blame
sort coming you name it I blamed it when I look back I realized the key was for me to
be able to sustain pouring out I didn't have a consistent pouring in in my own personal
life and God was there God was available his presence was always willing to meet but instead
of going back to him I just went to lay down I went to the spirit love of lethargy see
if I'm making that word up but just vegging and watching TV and just hanging out I didn't
do enough reflecting I didn't do enough of man this is what God did instead I just was
so focused on the physical toll I was so focused on the price that I never even set out to
pay I didn't even know I needed to pay but I paid it and didn't get the replenishment
from the source and and honestly like that's one of my it's a regret but at the same time
I'm thankful for it because it's helped bridge that gap of where I'm at now yes I needed
that season to now be able to sustain any kind of move of God whether that's corporately
or personally it just doesn't matter at the end of the day I don't want to move if he's
not in it it's not just in the public sense it's in my private life yes more than anything
and so I just remember man serving and I remember me and my friends used to have conversations
like cuz you know we would serve together and you know we've seen people laid out in
healing testimonies and you know this lump disappeared or this this preacher evangelist
lays hands on someone and they just fall out I remember being on the platform going yeah
that stuff will never happen to me my mentality is why would anybody want to lay hands on
the person that's singing the songs behind them that's how I saw it and I look back now
and I feel like the Lord has shifted that in my life it's no longer I'm doing a service
versus I'm a part of Lou and it's it's it's night and day and man those those years were
tough they were challenging but it gave me the grit the stamina the energy and I didn't
know it then but I am so grateful for that time and so after those years I you know I
left that church didn't really know what was next didn't know what God had for me and I
don't even know if I really cared to be honest I knew I loved God I knew I believed in God
but the ministry part I kind of was like I don't know about that I don't know about revivals
everyone wants a revival right I'm like if that's what it felt like I don't want anything
to do with that right but you know the Lord took me I like to call it a cave before I
could be in the kingdom I had to learn how to be in the cave where there was nothing
there where I was almost in hiding and that's what New Mexico was for me and man the Lord
began a healing that I didn't even know I needed wow and honestly spending time with
you and Christa is really what helped that healing even come to completion and I didn't
even know I needed that wow and yeah the wilderness is is necessary man and so in that time in
season and a couple thousand one thought you know I was thinking about how you were saying
that you had all this output but you didn't recognize oh man you know if I have all this
output there's got to be input you know I got to get watered if I'm going to be watered
in other people I was thinking about this time when all of a sudden I dramatically increased
my athletic output you know I think I'm taking mixed martial arts class I had another class
and then I added another degree of cardio activity and I was doing all this stuff but
I was drinking the same water levels as I was before all of a sudden man for a good while
I had this tremendous pain in my back and it was like debilitating like it was hard
to get in the car get out it got to the point where literally I was not quite bedridden
but I couldn't be bedridden and so I remember going to the doctor and the doctor says are
you a big time coffee drinker I go no they go you're severely dehydrated I go what and
they go yeah and I'm thinking I drank the same water level water amount that I've always
drunk but now what I didn't make the connection with that level of exertion going to another
level my water and I think in life a lot of people they're so busy watering others they're
not getting watered themselves and that really puts you in a vulnerable situation and unfortunately
I think we've seen vessels make bad decisions because of that now in this season I'm going
to get back to you Chris in this season when you had transitioned from the east coast to
a little bit more towards the west southwestern portion of the United States I know that there
was something that happened that was a part of your wilderness chapter left you kind of
reeling for a moment and you it was one of those times I think looking at respect it
was God testing your characters how you would deal with disappointment at that level tell
us about that if you're cool with that yeah so after I was at this church and for a lot
of after I resigned I moved to New Mexico which don't ask it's you know New Mexico and if
you're from New Mexico we love you I spent some time there in a small a small city on
the east side of New Mexico and within six weeks of me being at this church now I only
accepted this job because there was already a worship pastor there so they wouldn't have
been this like full on responsibility my job was a worship pastor but I was more brought
there to help develop and train which is easy like I love that I love seeing you know younger
people growing their gifts and volunteers growing their gifts and so I was really the job but
then within six weeks there was an indiscretion from upper leadership which for me I didn't
I wasn't there long enough to have like a deep emotional connection right but all of my co-workers
were wow all of my ministry partners were all of the volunteers were all of the church
were this this guy planned to this church and was the only senior pastor for 40 years
oh my and what's so beautiful he had a great ministry it was amazing like from day one
he was baptizing people in every service thousands tens of thousands of people were baptized
in this church was crazy the city the town was only about I think four thousand people
I church was about two thousand people it was incredible incredible and it's at the peak
of its existence and then there was this this huge indiscretion that really hurt a lot of
people wow and I remember being in that meeting and that was the first time where it became
clear why the Lord had me there I'm thinking I accepted this job to run away from something
but God led me there to run to something and it gave me a chance in my own hurt in my own
burnout and my own exhaustion and my own confusion and my own despair weariness you know all the
adjectives the Lord used me to help bring hope and healing to a whole people through
worship it was incredible what happened and there's some great people in this town and
amazing amazing people who took me in treated me like family but they were hurting they were
hurting and the worship pastor at the time resigned so it was my job it was only Chris
now my goodness to figure out okay how do we worship through this storm how do we worship
through this storm and these people have never even like seen anything like that if you know
anything about small town living they're very disconnected to city suburbia like where I'm
from I heard of moral failures too many times right but these people never really seen or
heard or ever thought it would be this close and I remember we had found everything out on a
Friday and we actually had a service that night wow and I had to lead worship the same service
that they were gonna let the congregation know all this stuff and that's when the Lord just
showed me like they're gonna make it through this through worship they're keeping their eyes
fixed on Jesus on the cross on the love of God and from that he will keep them he will protect
them he will grow them show them love and I was there for 11 months and man like the ministry
grew it flourished in fact that we the church merged with another church a very prominent
church wow huge like 20,000 member church oh yeah it was crazy it was a lot of different
things that happened but I remember around December the new senior pastor over this 20,000
member church met with met with me and with our pastors and he looked at me and said Chris I did
not expect growth in this season I came in here to sustain wow so the fact that there was growth
in the worship ministry we went from like like I don't know like maybe 15 volunteers to I can't
even tell you it was a substantial amount like it was crazy how many people the Lord brought wow
for such a time as this and he was just an awe man but you know we were just so fixed on Jesus so
enamored with what God wanted to do and in that that brought so much healing to me bro I think I'm
gonna underscore something you said Chris I think it's so profound I think disappointment which let's
just get real we're all gonna have disappointment we're all gonna face problems we're all gonna be
hit with setbacks things we didn't see coming and it seems like just observation looking at people
watching people live their lives out in the kingdom Christians church going people it takes out a lot
of people yeah but what I think it is is that disappointment that pain that situation and you
said if you brows it's an elevator now elevator obviously the word is elevate yeah right the
purpose of elevators you're trying to go to the next highest floor but I think the pain the problem
it's an elevator but you choose whether that arrow is going up or going down that's right you go to
the elevator I push up you're funny because a lot of elevators you get in always like to get on a
top floor so you get in a lot of the voice activated they go going down they'll say when you
get an elevator and I corrected I go I may be going down but I'm really going on because I think
what you did you made the choice you could have went in a major I'm hurt I'm burned out hashtag
church hurt movement deconstruct there's a whole path you could have went down but you said you
pressed into Jesus and it's like you push the elevator so I just believe that there are people
listening right now you're facing something right now I just want to challenge you don't push the
downward arrow on the elevator push the upward arrow I would say this don't waste your trials
don't waste your setbacks your disappointment it's an opportunity the Bible says you know when it
speaks of Jesus that we may know him the power is resurrection everybody's down with that but then
it says the fellowship of his sufferings few people are down with that and that's how you get
to know him and so I love that in you so kind of to finish off that chapter obviously you're now
married you're here in California so how did the next transition go where you got out here with us
so when I was leaving New Mexico I was out of place where I was done with ministry and the New
Mexico season to your point Sean really brought me back to my Genesis with the Lord I had nothing
else I didn't have the community my strong community in Florida that I built for years and
years I didn't have that I had a good community but I had just met them it was only 11 months
right so I didn't have my family I was in the middle of nowhere wow there wasn't many people
that looked like me honestly like right I was just I had nothing I was literally in the desert
literally literally and the Lord brought me back to him that's all I had and it was a very up and
down season with him but I he was there and I had a lot of time in isolation which if you know my
personality that's just not what I do I don't ever like I want to do stuff with people all the
time and but I had a lot of time in isolation and when I left that season we did so many great
things they didn't have to rehire my position which I thought was that's always a goal when
you're in ministry like replace yourself and it was just beautiful by the grace of God but I just
was done with ministry I was done with politics in the church I was done with you know not having
a space to be freely Chris yes I always felt like I had to pull back in certain situations or had to
play the part or play the role to be respected or to be taken seriously I just felt like you know
what in this next season I'm I'd rather go and help a church for like a week and leave be kind of
consulting consult like I thought that just was the next season and so I'm a good friend of mine
Andy was already here in California and earlier a few months earlier you know he and I were joking
around he's like man like dude man you got a lot going on here you should leave and come to California
and I'm like nah man but you know put feelers out there I'll never say no to an interview like I'll
never say no to a potential open door I don't know what God wants to do but at that time like
new life wasn't looking for anybody and so I was like okay cool um no biggie and so I finally was
home and flew out here and interviewed and twice and I was just not interested I was like yo I don't
want to be in a church anymore like I just you know I found myself in a weird way I loved God but
hated the church hated the institution of the church I'm a huge people person right I love the church
people yeah yeah yeah and I hated the church building yeah yeah no I tried you know so I just wasn't
about that and um I remember I got the phone call and they're like hey it's been a week what are you
gonna do and I kid you not I promise you I said no I said no but somehow some way God turned that
into a yes um and I didn't even fight it because I just knew in my heart from praying and fasting
and thinking and talking to close friends and singing wise counsel I just knew this is where I
needed to be but the thing that made me the most nervous is I didn't know why because everything
that was being offered here was not what I wanted but this is where I was supposed to be wow I take
the move move out here and get established here and lo and behold what's so funny is um the second
day that I moved here I met Lillian wow who's my wife come on bro and oddly enough is that same week
she moved back from Buffalo so backstory uh special shout out to my wife she's amazing y'all yeah she
is amazing she was working for Starbucks was at Buffalo supposed to be six weeks ended up being
like seven or eight months and somehow some way the day that the week I moved here she moved back
from Buffalo wow and wasn't planned she didn't know it was just kind of like hey the assignment's
done come back and so we met my second day uh through a mutual friend and we hung out and you
know we kind of got into a little bit of a argument me represent I was saying the east coast is better
than the west coast um and she wasn't too fond of that and so but that was the beginning of our
friendship wow and then that friday that so that's tuesday so then three days later that friday I
have my first event at new life a worship leader um jasmine was sick and so I had to I was just there
by myself with angelo um and I don't know I don't know anything I don't know anyone's name but I'm
supposed to lead worship with these volunteers for this event and that's why I first met Christa wow
and I will never forget that exchange like I think we we shook hands because they introduced and
they're like yeah this our new worship pastor and I just felt like I knew her in the weirdest way I
had never met Christa before right but I was like yo why do I feel like I know this person I couldn't
put my finger on it and then we flowed that service and it was amazing it was easy it was great it was
effortless I just kind of was like oh yeah I just know what she's about but in a way I kind of was
like it was a little cynical I was like okay I get what these revivalists are about and then and then
I think probably that Monday you and Christa spoke to the staff yes and remember so that was like and
so I just did it because I was trying to give everyone a break I'm the new guy so I did a little
uh piano uh worship I remember that that's where I met you and Christa and you guys are flowing
prophetically and I just was doing what I do like and it just felt like we've been doing this for a
million years yes and it was just seamless and then I remember I think it was probably a few weeks
after that that's when you and you and Christa met with me to talk about helping with prophetic
master class and the momentum conference yes it was just those those two things at the time right
a little I had no clue that it was going to be this lifelong relationship that I needed so desperately
wow I did not I my wife was here mentors were here and you and Christa my healing was here wow
this community my like my cousin actually moved to California I have close friends in Morgan Hill
the community I'm finding at this church and new life and being able to build and pour in here
like the exceedingly abundantly above I could ever even ask and I didn't even ask for it I stopped
asking I was over it I love how God works oh my goodness man and the relationship I dude I can
go on and on like I am so blessed I am so so blessed by that yes bro and then how God always takes
it amen I'm gonna throw in a two-part question uh you those who are listening all of our momentum
events which we do monthly meetings in Oakland California we do a major conference once a year
momentum conference and then we do kind of a momentum various masterclass it'd be prophetic
masterclass healing and deliverance masterclass two full question Chris one what part do you feel
worship will play in the next move and then two uh what do you expect from these momentums and I
know it's a two-part question but what what part because you you're you're leading worship at all
of our events you're putting together teams you're working with different people and honestly people
seriously you're so gifted and the way you follow Holy Spirit is amazing so again back to the question
what part do you feel worship will play in this next move and what do you expect if there's a
momentum masterclass I think worship is going to play such a significant role in this next move
because I believe worship is everything it's not just a song it's not just a musician it's not just
a talented singer it's how we live our lives on the daily basis come on bro worship is what tells
you to hey god loves you to that person in the supermarket or hey I want to I want to pay for
that card behind me in the drive-thru or hey let me let me get you a coffee yes I think worship
leads us in every area of our lives it encourages it blesses the Lord it gives him the glory that
he deserves and worship postures us in a place of realizing all that I have is yours god everything
that I have I'm a big proponent I tell people this all the time I don't lead worship because I
like music I enjoy music but music's not really a passion for me my passion has always been people
and worship is a tool or music is a tool that the Lord has used to lead me to people that's always
been my thing since day one and I wish I could say like man like music's everything to me but
music is just a tool to bring people closer to the Lord and I think in this next move and these
momentum moves I've seen how worship has totally just shifted the atmosphere when when and at least
in definitely the momentum nights like I've seen where we push and press and encourage and just
like lead the people 100% they go for it yes sir and we've seen what happens like oh my gosh there's
no greater sound than when I hear God's people singing without a worship leader on their own wow
it just feels like heaven yes and I believe that's going to be so significant because I believe people
are going to be leading worship in their homes people are going to be lighthouses in their own
community and in that like just like the upper room like we're going to have thousands of upper
room experiences in different neighborhoods where people are going to have so many neighbors and
so and so's come over from out of nowhere they won't even know what to do with them and I think
it's going to be contagious I think it's going to affect every church every congregation I think
worship is the key when I I'm reminded of the story and it's funny I've been talking about the
story a lot and maybe it was for this conversation Sean um but it's the story of the golden calf and
if you remember in Exodus I think it's Exodus 32 uh Moses goes to be with the Lord and the people
are left behind with Aaron right um Aaron who's a strategist but was also people pleasing yeah um
great speaker um decided man that people are complaining like hey we want we want to build
an altar or build a statue build an idol um to worship the Lord uh because we you know Moses
gets to worship how come we can't you know the Israelites were no for complaining this was normal
for them um Aaron being wise decided okay won't you guys melt the gold um and I think it's um your
children's earrings melt the gold and then I'm we're going to make a statue lo and behold they
turn into a golden calf what's so interesting about this story um is when I went to Israel our
tour guide told it from a Jewish Israeli perspective which is different from an American Christian
perspective he shared how back in those times it was customary for people to be polytheistic
whereas in today's culture we're very monotheistic right like God is the only God right whereas back
then it was like okay we do believe in the sun god we do believe in this god but we just believe
that Jehovah is higher oh right this is how he he shared it and what's interesting is all the other
gods for them to come and be in a place you had to build something for them to sit on and that
something oftentimes was like a golden statue a cow or or or altar altar whatever and so basically
the people were complaining with normal custom customs like if God is with is with Moses then
for him to be with us we need to build something for him to come right we need to build something so
we can worship him and what and it's so funny when you read throughout all of Exodus which is one
of my favorite books is the number one message that I feel that God was trying to get to is to the
Israelites of that time and I think that message is still here to the to this day is I am with you
no matter what so that the the splitting of the that the the Red Sea wasn't enough the cloud by day
fire by night wasn't enough the mass the plagues to get you out of that wasn't enough crazy all
these signs that manna come from heaven wasn't enough yet you wanted another thing for to be
proven that I am with you yet this whole time I've been trying to get you to see that I am with you
right now yesterday and tomorrow I feel like in today's world that that seems to be the message
that the Lord is trying to get to his people is not only am I here not only did I send Jesus not
only is a Holy Spirit available every single day so good but you don't have to have it at a church
and what I love about the momentum nights is we see people from all different churches yeah
all different walks of life come together get poured into get filled to go yes to go it doesn't
stay yes go into your cities go into your neighborhoods go into your churches and and
pour out and come back and get refilled yes and so anyways I just say all that to say I think worship
is is a big key component when we see it um how God intended it and that's it's everything in our
lives and I look forward to these next momentum nights because I believe God just has so much more
yes this last one we saw so much so many healing testimonies we saw so many people filled with the
Holy Spirit yes we saw people just laid out laid out in the best way possible just just just basking
in the glory and in the love of God there was a peace in that room facts oh my goodness like it
was just oh it just I was in awe and it's so cool like from my standpoint as a person leading worship
people are often like man like are you tired are you exhausted and I think my healing journey has
led me to a place to not only learn how to go back to the source to get refilled but in these
momentum nights I am getting filled literally as I'm pouring out crazy and I've never experienced
that before that's crazy like I leave feeling like I got hit by a truck but super energized like
wanting more like like we can keep going and keep going and so you do too hey listen and I'm just
excited for more of these nights to come because I think God is just gonna show us more of heaven
and I think you nailed something bro and I love how you brought in that passage in Exodus that
that altar for them was kind of a statement of God we want you to be with us and yet to connect
what you're saying Psalms 22 3 the Lord inhabits the praises of his people that are our praise I
believe that prayer connects us to the heart of God but worship connects us to the presence of the
Lord tabernacle dwelling in our midst and so that's so important Chris man what you shared is so
profound I mean like yo dude you're deep you're as likable as they come I literally can't say I
know a guy more likable I mean you're on the Mount Rushmore in my life of likable guys like anybody
has a problem with you has a problem hey how can our listeners stay in contact with you man and
just follow what you're doing and keep up with you yeah I'm mostly on Instagram you could find me
it's Chris Alda justy or Alda juiced I'm sure you'll find the spelling somewhere but yeah I'm
mostly on there Facebook same thing I love connecting with people so I love to meet new
people hear your stories and just connect and just see what God does through new relationships and
so Sean thank you so much for even like having me on here I am so appreciated of you you and
Chris tell you guys have changed my life forever man and I'm just excited like if you could come out
to Momentum Nights or PMC master classes healing and deliverance anything you need to be there
like it'll change your life and I'm not just saying that because I'm a part I kid you not even if I
wasn't leading worship I'll be sitting in the front row without question Chris is going to be
leading worship along with the team at our next master class and you do not want to miss it we'll
give you information obviously you can go to our website and find it Chris dude thanks so much for
hopping on the keep it 100 podcast bro we love you we love your wife we call our LTV y'all it's
Lily but LTV Lily of the Valley so all right we love you man I mean come on I love him I love
what he shared that was such a good conversation oh it was amazing Chris his ability to be honest
yes forthright yes funny 100 authentic himself but he loves the Lord with all his heart that was
gold there were so many nuggets just the kind of thing that you learn from people's lives I always
feel like our lives will be a classroom to a generation good or bad as to what to do or what
not to do and he shared with us some things to do and I think that's so powerful you know and I love
it when we allow our lives to be unpacked to be you're like you're saying a classroom for other
people to learn from and I just love Chris I love his vulnerability I love his transparency
and he always is going to point you back to Jesus and isn't that the way we should always
respond through every lesson every path walked in our lives we're pointing back to Jesus and Chris
does that so beautifully keep 100 tribe I hope you just so enjoyed this conversation is so rich
and there's anything really just to walk away thinking is that worship just simply isn't a song
at the beginning of a service or when your favorite tune comes on or what you have on your
apple play playlist worship literally is our lifestyle it's the way we live our life and
worshipers a true worshipers obviously worship and spirit and in truth and the whole understanding
is that when you're a worshipper worship is warfare worship is the thing that can bring the
presence of God so quickly that when you feel like you're in a situation where the enemy is
trying to get at you and the enemy is trying to hit you get strongholds in your mind or maybe you
need to worship God in the midst of your battling with an affliction or you feel an area in your
life where you need freedom as you begin to worship it's so important and we're super pumped that
we're going to have Chris several days from now also leading worship at our healing and
deliverance masterclass and if you're not going to be there live you can go live stream thanks so
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