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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Keep It 100
with Sean and Christa Smith.
Hey, what's going on everybody?
It is great to be with you guys for another episode.
We're excited.
Yeah, you know, we're coming at you straight from Scotland.
We have a little bit of jet lag
and hopefully a whole lot of anointing
and we've just had an incredible trip
and we're gonna tell you about that probably more
in our next episode.
This episode, we really wanna focus on the PMC,
but I do have to say Scotland was incredible.
I love the nation of Scotland
and God just did incredible things there.
We were so honored to be there with Emma and David Stark
and their team with the Global Prophetic Alliance.
They call it that ministry.
And so it was amazing.
But right before we went to Scotland,
we had our second prophetic masterclass,
but this time it was the East Coast.
And you know, you and I agreed,
it was probably our favorite masterclass
that we've hosted to date.
It was.
From the opening worship session,
which was just off the chart.
It was incredible.
All the way to the closing activation.
It was just one glorious blur of just God
kissing this masterclass.
So many great praise reports that we heard.
We were really excited as we were in the DC area
and we were really excited to be there.
And that I believe are very strategic region
and equip believers in the prophetic.
And we have some great testimonies too.
You know, we really do.
And you know, what I love is when people experience
the prophetic, it's life changing.
It's been life changing for me.
It's been life changing for Sean.
And that's one of the reasons why we're so passionate
about the prophetic ministry
and having a pure, incredible prophetic ministry
for people to walk in that
because it's been so life changing for us.
So when we share these testimonies, it's exciting
because people's lives are impacted, changed,
never the same.
You know, probably one of the,
my favorite testimonies that we've received so far
was actually from a prophetic word that Sean released.
He called that a mother and he started prophesying to her
and he specifically went into a word about her daughter,
not even knowing her daughter was there.
And come to find out after the fact, you know,
that's what I love.
We know in part we prophesied in part.
Sean's prophesying like destiny and purpose over the daughter
and really just giving such a word of encouragement
over her daughter and like that God has them
that she he's heard her prayers
and just really giving a word of hope
and breakthrough and promise and destiny over the daughter.
And the mom's like weeping.
I mean, she's just like undone by the word.
And after the fact, we learned that her daughter
had gone through some really traumatic events
and really difficult situation
and found herself in a very emotionally vulnerable
and fragile place.
And that word, the daughter sitting there
hearing the word about herself.
Sean didn't even know she was in the room.
That's just like the coolest, right?
When he started releasing the word
and the daughter gets massively impacted.
The mom gets massively impacted
and the daughter is like doing so good
and experienced God and like, they just feel like
that was like, you know, it turned the corner for them.
And that to me is what the prophetic ministry is all about.
The prophetic ministry carries an atmosphere of breakthrough.
It carries an atmosphere of transformation.
It carries an atmosphere of the hope
and the love and the compassion of Jesus.
And that is what we saw.
We witnessed that firsthand.
So that was probably one of my favorite testimonies
and that was one of many that we've been receiving in.
And typically what we do during our prophetic masterclass
and that was a phenomenal testimony.
So encouraging is that we have the Holy Spirit
after party is what we call it.
But simply after the first couple of sessions
of teaching on the opening night,
we pray for deliverance, we pray for healing,
we pray if any of these things are needed,
we pray for people, particularly for the baptism
of the Holy Ghost.
So we flowed in the prophetic that night,
you and I and Julian.
And I believe that was one of the nights
that some of these prophetic words landed with people
that really blessed him.
But it was such a blessing to see probably a couple dozen
people baptized in the Holy Ghost for the first time.
It was so awesome.
And when you do that, you know that there change
more than just on the ministry level
of being in a position where they're hearing the voice
of God because when you baptize in the Holy Ghost
and you pray in the Holy Spirit,
it will help you attune your spirit to God's spirit.
But also the empowerment and that encounter level
will open up a greater witness through them.
So we're super excited to see that.
And then we heard a number of people in terms of testimony
that they heard the voice of God for the first time
for someone else or they began to identify with clarity
and confidence, the ability to receive the thoughts of God,
receive the emotion and heart of God for someone else
and share those prophetic words.
And in all the activation series,
we had a number of them.
So many people were prophesying over one another
and you could just see.
And even as we asked for the results,
so many people were encouraged by the words
someone else gave them.
And so those were a couple of things that stood out for me.
What else stood out for you?
You know, one of my favorites was,
and I love what you just shared,
because it's like, it's so true.
It's like seeing people receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit,
game changer, you know, it's just, it's amazing.
And they were so excited.
There were so many people we were praying for.
And I love watching that.
And they were just like, they were bawling, you know,
they were just like so touched that this was happening.
And one woman, remember, she hadn't ever received it.
She'd been praying for like 10, 15 years.
She's like, I don't know if I'm ever gonna get it.
I was like, you know what?
Tonight's your night.
I just have faith for it.
I was like, let's merge our faiths together.
Let's believe for it.
And you actually came and prayed for her
and she got it immediately.
And she was undone because she's been believing
and wanting it for so long.
So that was just so awesome.
But you know, Pastor Mark Lehman,
who's over Cornerstone, he, they're the ones that hosted us.
And that was just like so generous and amazing.
What a great church.
But he actually gave us an amazing testimony.
He said, multiple senior leaders
from the local area of Bowie, Maryland,
the Maryland area came and they were open to the prophetic.
They of course, wanted to learn.
They were there, they were present,
but they also had questions.
They also had some concerns about the prophetic ministry,
but like one, they were open, you know,
open enough to come to a two day masterclass,
which I was really impressed with that alone.
And they came and they said every question they had,
every concern was answered.
That to me was so encouraging
because these pastors walked away feeling empowered,
encouraged, but also equipped to actually raise up
a prophetic ministry in their church
and feeling excited about the gift of the prophetic ministry
and what it could actually add to their congregation.
They were no longer afraid.
And I think that's one of the things
you and I are really passionate about
is people not being afraid.
We demystify the prophetic ministry
because it's such a powerful tool.
When it is done right and it's done as the intention
that God's intended it to do in the local church,
it can be one of the greatest assets and blessings
of a church culture.
And I think they really caught that.
And that to me was just such an encouraging testimony.
Yes, the prophetic is so profound
in so many different ways.
But I think of what happens when we're not hearing from heaven,
we end up hearing from hell.
And that's the thing that's going on right now.
I believe the anxieties.
I believe people that are literally acting in fear.
The situation where people are walking under shame,
people that believe that because of the way
they were raised up, they will always be that way.
We have so many examples in our world today
of people hearing from hell.
And then the other default when we're not operating
in the prophetic or we're not hearing from heaven
is that all of a sudden we begin to have group think.
We let the group think for us.
We become echoes of popular sentiments
rather than have God think.
You know, I don't want group think.
I want God think.
I want to know what does God think about me?
What does God think about my future?
What does God think about the situation
where I find myself?
And many times just simply God's perspective on things
can shift everything.
The exciting thing, gang, that we want to share with you
is right now these nine sessions from our East Coast
prophetic masterclass are available
at www.SeanandChristasmith.com.
They have just come up, I believe, within the last week.
Yeah, I'm excited.
Just a couple of days ago,
I am really excited about people having access
to these nine sessions.
I really believe they can change people's life
and really activate people in the prophetic gift.
And if you weren't there and you're just saying,
man, I love what you're saying.
And this whole episode, hearing from heaven,
we're going to be bringing you in a moment, an interview,
but Chris and I are going to share some of the principles.
But these things that you're hearing are going to,
literally, you're going to get much more
if you order these sessions.
We're going to greater detail and so many different things.
We're just going to give you kind of hors d'oeuvres,
a la Costco or Sam's Club,
depending on what part of the country you're from.
And hopefully you'll make this investment in you.
We believe it will bless you.
And so, Chris, I want you to lead.
What is something that you share that you think
could really be a principle
that you'd want to sow into our people in hundred tribe
that could really help them?
You know, I've always really believed
that when we catch the revelation,
understand the revelation of the purpose
of the prophetic ministry,
and that is to release and give and help facilitate
and encounter with Jesus, it changes everything.
In a ministry that can often be entangled in people's ego
and people can make it point about them,
when we lay the ego down,
when we don't actually make the prophetic ministry about us,
but we understand that the most powerful purpose
of the prophetic ministry is that people encounter Jesus
because the prophetic ministry truly is a ministry
of breakthrough of transformation of freedom.
It breaks chains.
I have seen literally someone go from maybe being open
to the concept of God,
to giving their life immediately to Jesus
because they feel known, they feel seen, they feel loved.
And when they feel known, seen and loved,
they instantly just are like, I want to give my life.
I have seen that again and again and again.
I've seen someone struggling with suicide
and wanting to take their life.
And in almost a last ditch effort,
come to church, come to the service, cry out to God,
and God prophesies destiny and purpose,
breaks the spirit of death.
That word just spoke destiny.
So what does destiny do?
Destiny breaks off that death,
it breaks off that lie of I'm here by accident,
I don't have a purpose.
Destiny is like, what God thinks of you
and what God says of you.
When someone hears that, it undoes them.
And all of a sudden they're like, hold on,
like I want this, I want this life,
and I want to walk in what God has said over me.
You know, I think for someone like myself
who was raised Catholic and I had a good reverence of God,
I'd certainly had an awe of God,
but when I witnessed the prophetic ministry,
it wasn't even when I was actually prophesied over,
it's when I just saw the prophetic ministry
in it moving in a room, I witnessed it.
That is when all of a sudden the God shifted from master
and kind of this like, you know, big God,
you know that I serve to actually a God that knows us
and loves us and actually knows the personal details
about us. Like I said, it wasn't even the prophetic word
over me, it was me watching someone receive the love
and the compassion and the destiny and the plans
and purposes of God over their life and hearing that.
I was undone.
And so it just got me so passionate about my goodness,
if we could just show that Jesus loves people,
to all these people that are lost and searching and broken,
when we fall in love with Jesus,
we can't help but want to share and encounter with Jesus.
And the prophetic ministry does that.
And so for me, that is probably one
of the most exciting things about the prophetic ministry
is that it is a ministry of encounter.
I love that because really what are people crying out today
but they want that very encounter.
We hunger for the transcendent
and we gotta be able to get that.
You know, the principle that I wanna sow,
Boo is just this principle that they say
that the average human being thinks
between six to 8,000 thoughts a day
or six to 8,000 thoughts come across their mind.
I don't know how they get to that number.
I'm just gonna trust the experts on it.
But here is my principle, all thoughts are not your thoughts.
I'm approving to you.
And this is key and crucial for me hearing the voice of God
and going to another level.
It says in Daniel 2, the book of Daniel in the Bible,
verses 28 through 29, Daniel says,
but there's a God in heaven who reveals secrets.
That is the prophetic gang,
God or heaven revealing secrets.
It goes on to say,
he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar
what will be in the latter days.
So now this is what you would call foretelling,
the foretelling aspect of the propheticness.
There's foretelling and there's foretelling.
And it says, what will be in the latter days?
Your dream and the voices, excuse me,
visions of your head upon your bed were these.
So I'll let you know God can speak in dreams.
And now here's verse 29.
And this is the key that I wanna bring to you.
And not all thoughts that come to your mind
are your thoughts.
Here it says in Daniel 2, verse 29,
as for you, okay,
and thoughts came to your mind while you were on your bed
about what would come to pass after this.
And he who has revealed secrets has made known to you
what will be.
So Daniel is establishing in scripture
that Nebuchadnezzar, God revealed a sycrawize on his bed,
but he got specific about it.
He says thoughts came to your mind.
You ever thought that every thought
that comes to your mind is not your own?
Because there's a number, let's say 6 to 8,000 thoughts.
So let's say, let's go with the higher end
because I think we think a lot or at least thoughts come.
Let's just say of those 8,000 thoughts a day,
maybe, maybe 4,500 of them are your thoughts.
And how do you know your thoughts?
Your thoughts are analytical, your thoughts are cognitive,
your thoughts are based on the past experience,
what you're dwelling on in that moment,
our thoughts are linear.
But then there's a number of thoughts that are from hell.
Let's just get honest.
Thoughts of condemnation, thoughts that are negative,
thoughts are spiteful, thoughts of unforgiveness.
You just think of the fruit of bad thoughts
that come to your mind, ill will, and those kind of things.
Those are proof that there are satanic thoughts.
And so I don't know, maybe there's another 1,500 thoughts.
So I said, like, I don't know what it is,
5,500 or thoughts you think of, another.
So maybe, I'd like to believe if you're following God,
you don't realize, but there could be a couple thousand
thoughts a day coming to your head that are from God.
Now, how do you know?
Well, thoughts from the spirit realm are spontaneous.
Thoughts from your own mind are linear
and out of the process of reasoning.
And so Holy Spirit thoughts are thoughts
that are spontaneous.
So maybe if I could so just one quick principle
is to understand this.
And God thoughts come out of no place.
God's thoughts don't have a buildup.
God's thoughts aren't a result of you analyzing
and reasoning.
Jesus rebuked a group of Pharisees one day
and he said, why do you reason?
And what he's saying is your thoughts
that you're thinking that are critical of me
are coming out of a reasoning process,
but revelation is the opposite of the reasoning process.
Revelation comes directly from God.
And so God speaks as we learn to tune into the spirit
and recognize that his thoughts come spontaneous,
but they line up with his character.
They line up with scripture.
And as you understand these things,
it could revolutionize your ability to hear from God.
Keep going, Head of the Tribe, get ready.
We're gonna have a powerful conversation
that Sean had with Julian Adams via Instagram Live.
And it was such an incredible conversation.
We wanted to bring it to you,
our Keep Going Out of the Tribe, because it really encapsulates
the heart behind the prophetic ministry
and share some powerful revelatory truths
that you do not wanna miss.
Hey, Julie, what's going on, bro?
How you doing?
I'm good, I'm so glad we got here.
I was trying to figure out what's going on.
Bro, isn't it always how it works?
I see so many people, man.
And I never laugh at people where they do lives
and they're having technical difficulties
because I feel their pain, man.
That happens so often.
How are you and Katia doing, man?
Hey, we're doing amazing.
We're just coming off an incredible weekend of meetings
and going to some wonderful things in our local community.
We just had a below our healing meeting on Sunday afternoon
and just saw 70 people getting healed.
Here in Boston on the East Coast, God is moving.
Rewind, did you say 17 or 70, like 70?
I should have had a number of people
getting healed here in Boston.
Gotcha.
We had about, yeah, just some crazy, wonderful healings.
In fact, we heard the story of a lady in our community
who had a dream about her mother getting cancer,
which then happened just a few weeks later
and she was given nine months to live.
Yesterday, she testified to her that the cancer
is in full remission, completely healed.
In her dream, she saw herself praying for her mother
and her mother getting healed.
And that's exactly what happened.
And so we're having a little police for a moment
of seeing some people just coming into healing.
And I love it.
It's just me in Boston on the East Coast.
People have told us the East Coast is hard.
I'm so glad nothing's too hard for Jesus.
Come on, Julien.
I love that.
So yeah, we're good.
Hey, you know, I'm thinking about this in revival.
We're gonna quickly get to asking you some questions
on the prophetic, because I know there's some people
that are on.
And if you're on right now,
we gotta get a number of people on and stay on.
I'm about to ask Julien some incredible questions.
But the thing I love is that Julien Boston,
or I just did this research in Pennsylvania area,
Massachusetts, Virginia, and Pennsylvania
were the three epicenters for the first grade awakening.
Come on.
Obviously, you know, Jonathan Edwards there in Massachusetts
in the North Hampton kind of revival that spilled in.
So you are in one of the deepest wells, my friend,
in our nation.
And yet, as we know today, you know,
they'll tell us statistically is one of the least church
regions in the United States, arts, cerebral, all that.
But that leads us into this whole subject, my friend,
is that the area of the prophetic.
Now you teach people, you've got incredibly
of prophetic collective, you have Vox Day,
which is your online school.
You do a lot of different things.
You're out, you're training, you've written books on it.
And the thing that I love about you and people that,
when we had you down for our previous prophetic master class
when we did it West Coast, is that people love your humility,
your integrity, and just how solid you are in the word.
And kind of backing up all for that,
is what the compliment you were that,
but to state that that's so true of my friend.
What are some of the prophetic ministry
or prophetic words that have impacted your life?
Like where you were the recipient of the prophetic.
What are some things that have really impacted your life?
Some words you were given, a dream,
somebody minister of you that really rocked you?
You know, one of the things that I love about the prophetic
is you don't have to have a big name
to be effective in the prophetic.
And similarly, most significant prophetic words
have come from the unknowns.
I grew up in a home that was crazy charismatic.
We believe God for everything that we saw in the Bible
and I'm so grateful I did.
And we had this old, Scottish woman
who we affectionately called Auntie,
who kind of grew up with us.
And she had a dream about me.
I remember so clearly I was 15 years old, I think I was.
And I'd been praying and saying,
God, what am I gonna be one day?
And I felt the Lord speak to me
as he had maybe three or four times before,
saying I'm calling you to be a prophet to the nations.
I thought, God, that is such a big thing.
I need some confirmation.
And I remember this Auntie, this Scottish woman
that we love so much, coming over one day
and I had just been praying, literally been praying this
in my room, walked out of my room
and I walked into the lounge where she was sitting
and she turned to me with those fiery Scottish eyes.
She looked like Emma Stark, if you know who Emma Stark is,
I know you know.
And she looked at me and said, I had a dream about you.
The Lord is calling you to be a prophet to the nations
and you will be like Jesus at the well,
exposing the hearts and secrets of many broken people.
As she said that the power of God overwhelmed me.
I fell out, I was 15 years old in the passageway
outside the lounge, he's the presence of God came.
And that really was one of the first words
that propelled me into an awareness
of what it means to be prophetic.
And then we all get to hear God's voice and do the stuff.
I love that, man.
I think that's so profound.
I've received different ones, it's funny.
It was a Swedish intercessor lady
that was at this assembly God church
from like I say, in this campus ministry.
And then she would pray over you.
She said, she's a young man, can I pray over you?
And the moment she began to pray, it was like cold
for she's gonna prophesize.
Some people pray like Lord help them, bless them,
which we value, thank God for people that pray for you.
But she would say, let me just pray for you.
And then she would say, and the Lord would say,
and I was thinking of one instance
that was my most significant, Julian,
is that I was at a conference,
Passion for Jesus conference, Kansas City.
Mike Bickle was there.
I had heard of him, but he didn't know me from Adam.
And then he had Paul King get up
and the guy called me out by name.
He called me out by the state I was from.
And so there were 2,000 people,
but there was only one Sean Smith from California, man.
I stood up, I was shaking on the inside.
And what he did is I had seen levels of people
operating the prophetic.
And again, I never despise what some would call
were generalities, because if it comes from the mind of God,
it's by definition not a generality,
it's specific to you.
And so all those words, but for someone to get my name,
and then he prophesied something over me,
and this would have been, oh my God, 30 years ago, right?
He prophesied something over me then that it's weird.
It's a weird thing to do.
It's like an ever ascending spiraling.
It just keeps coming true again,
but at higher levels.
And it's so crazy.
Let me ask you this.
Why, Julien, do you think that prophetic is so important
to the body of Christ, to the church, and believers today
in the hour that we live in?
Why do you feel like, not that it's ever not been important,
but why do you feel like it's specifically important right now?
Do you guys want to think one of the overwhelming convictions
that I have is that the reality of the state of the world
means that we have no other choice but to lean into the voice
of God.
And if Jesus is not alive speaking today,
we're all in a lot of trouble.
And one of the things that I love is
bright, rooted in Scripture in Matthew chapter 16.
Jesus makes it clear that the church is built upon the revelation
of who he is.
And that's both historically, but also his ongoing voice
just today.
And we can only achieve so much by our strategy,
by our business lens.
And then we need revelation from heaven.
And every juncture in Scripture, particularly in the Book
of Acts of the Churches and Vines,
what preceded the apostolic advance of the church,
the impact on culture, the bringing of revival,
thousands of years ago, was a supernatural prophetic encounter.
And any theologian worth his salt
has to admit that God's voice is still speaking to us today.
And if you track revival history and the outpouring of this work,
they are intrinsically connected.
And it's not just about the big stuff that I need his voice.
It's about how I raise my kids.
It's about how I do marriage.
But how I impact my space and so that when he's speaking into that,
I get to do more with him than I ever will in my own strength
for him.
And that's why.
Oh, my goodness.
That was just so profound.
And you know, isn't that true that there's certain people that
move markets?
Yes, and amen, Meg, Jocelyn, I see you in tea and others.
But isn't it true there's certain people that they will move
NASDAQ, they'll move Wall Street, certain people that are the insiders.
And when they say something, commodities rise and fall based
on them coming out, there are certain people that when they speak.
And I was thinking about this scripture in the Bible that it says,
the voice of the Lord causes the deer, one translation says, to give birth.
And I was just thinking, just meditating on one process,
that one thing that the voice of God can cause someone to birth something.
And I just think there's so many things in the area of movements,
in the area of outbreaks of the spirit, in the areas of a person's
individual destiny, like you said, something that could birth a spark,
that could put a marriage back together, something that could spark,
that could cause a prodigal son and daughter, grandbaby, to come back
home to Jesus, that God can speak.
And as a result of that, something is launched forward that was not there
before.
And today we see the power of a lie.
We see the power of, for the Old Testament, it's probably called false
prophecies, and I'm not even talking about people getting up and saying,
that's the other Lord and they're off.
I'm just talking about a fallen narrative that does not include the mind
of a heart of God for man.
And we see the damage that that causes.
And it's just crazy.
Speak to this, Julie, because I think you're like, I can talk to you all day
and I know people are being blessed by this.
When someone says, I don't hear the voice of God, I'm a follower of Christ.
I love the Lord, but I don't hear God.
And they're kind of stuck in that area based on, you know, whatever, for
whatever reasons, they're not getting any insight, any revelation, anything
exceptional.
What would you say to that person that says, Hey, I just don't hear the God,
like Julie, you hear the voice of God, that other minister is the voice of God,
but I just, I'm not good at this.
So I should probably just stick to like here and someone else, you're not for
me or something.
What would you say?
Yeah, I think that the key things I'd say, the first thing I'd say is you've
already heard the voice of God.
No man can become a Christian without God's voice calling him and drawing him
to himself and that you've had any counter and that if you can believe that
God is forgiven your sin, you can believe that he wants to speak to you at any
time because those two are intrinsically connected.
I think the second thing I'd say, and you see this through our scripture, right
from the Garden of Eden, all the way through the narrative of scripture,
that both saved and I'm saved, both regenerated and regenerated.
People are created with the potential and with the senses to recognize in your
God's voice.
God loves you, see the people and I've often said this, that it would be
highly dysfunctional for me as a father, not to talk to my children.
And the reality is that intrinsic to you is an ability to your God's voice.
The key is finding out exactly what and how he likes me to you.
And when you discover that, there is a flow.
And this is one of the things that I love doing, these equipping times like
we're going to be doing in East Coast prophets because actually what we're
releasing is not just our experience, but a biblical framework for every believer
to encounter the other voice of God.
You were created and designed to hear his voice.
God is a relational father.
He's so relational that he puts on human flesh to be right in the midst of people.
Glory takes on dirt in order to be a month's people so that he can relate.
And if you want to know what God is like, look at Jesus.
And that's the most beautiful thing is Jesus is easy.
You're in his voice is easy.
It's not difficult.
And these are, there's just so many keys that are so simple, founded
structure that will unlock this for you.
You mean, I'm just gonna say number one, bro, profound.
I've heard Jesus all over what you said.
I'm not a high person, but man, I felt they're no key because I love it.
You said it.
We are designed to hear the voice of God.
And so the narrative in our hand that we don't hear the voice of God,
I love it.
You first refuted it by saying you could come to Jesus without hearing his voice.
And then the next thing is that you are hearing God's voice.
It is more on the lines of finding out how God is speaking to you because
we're, he's speaking, we're not recognizing it.
And obviously, you know, they've got back in the day was this AM FM radio, you know,
and then they had serious FM radio and and and except for him or whatever they
would call it.
But if all you have is at AM or I'll rephrase that.
If all you're listening to is you're on the AM dial, you're not going to get an
FM, let alone a serious X FM wavelength.
You have to get on the right frequency.
And I think so often people were in the wrong frequency.
Maybe we're in the flesh.
Maybe we're looking for God because the, you have to learn the volume of God's
voice.
And this is so key because I love you said it.
I'm just going to throw this out there.
We're going to continue our conversation.
But I asked you different examples of how a prophetic word you mentioned a
Scottish lady.
Give us some instances where God used you in a prophetic in some and I feel like
they're all profound, but what stands out to you in terms of the prophetic words
God gave you for others and how it impacted someone else's life.
Wow, gosh, there's so many I'm trying to reach for them.
I think I think the best ones for me are the ones where God reveals some
incredible details.
And I'm thinking of a particular word.
I see.
I just saw this lady just recently out in California.
I was in a meeting about a year ago and I brought a word of knowledge about
somebody who had gone through a significant relational breakdown and I gave
the specific date on which it had happened.
And I can't remember the exact date, but let's just say September 12th.
And I began to describe what had happened in great detail.
And this woman was going through a significant divorce after being married
for over 30 years.
I haven't been cheeky on her.
And just in a devastated, broken place, overwhelmed by depression.
Wondering if God knew who she was.
And as I begin to describe, even down to the date that she got divorced on,
she stands up and God brings healing to her.
And a year later, I mean, the same day she comes up to it, she says,
you probably don't remember me, but this is what happened.
And she begins to describe the incredible depression that was overwhelming
out how that lifted off of her and how she's nodding ministry and serving
and doing things for God because she found the worth that she was to God in that
single, maybe 10 minute prophetic word.
And it completely changed her life so that she's helping people around her.
I think of moments when I prophesied in unseeing places where it's not at a
conference, it's maybe in the office or a boardroom.
I often do stuff like this and prophesying over individuals to then go on
to make significant changes in their country or in different fields of society.
But all of it boils down to now.
I'll never forget this.
I thought the looks they do me once said, I don't want you to go for information.
I want you to go for heart.
When God comes right into the heart of somebody and reveals amazing things,
all of these great information.
And you've seen me minister, I've seen you minister.
We get some incredible details, wonderful dates, make your name and all of that
stuff beautiful.
But it's when that intrinsic worth of that individual is revealed to them
that God is so in love with them.
They extend crazy people like us to bring a few words together and it changes
their decision.
That's the heart of the prophetic and that's what can be bro.
You just gave me some next level right there hats in the prophetic.
May you say I love this.
And by the way, that, that, that testimony is profound.
Don't go for information.
Go for heart.
And would you say part of that is kind of as you're about to step it in that
moment, just asking the father for his heart, his love for that person in front
of them.
Would you say that it also includes connecting to the heart of the person
that's in front of you.
Just kind of speak to that.
Cause yeah, that can revolutionize someone's prophetic.
Come on, man.
Come on, you guys, you guys write this down.
This is good stuff.
Actually, what I think that whenever you do function without relationship, it's
legalism at best and at its worst, it's witchcraft.
And we have got to break with the functional dynamics of what we often see
in how we relate to God.
He's relational, which means that when he feels something, he wants to share
that with us because that's what brings you.
The Bible says in Psalm 25 that the secret of the Lord belongs to those
of Abraham.
That word secret is the word friendship in the original Hebrew there.
Like if you want to be friends with God, he wants to share his secrets, his
emotions, his heart with you.
And whenever I get up to prophesy, one of the things I endeavor to do is to
store my own desires or platform, my own desires for accuracy, my own desires
for respectability and say, God, what are you feeling for the person in front
of you?
And very often he moves me to tears or joy.
And in that moment of connecting with the height of God, that somebody comes
into freedom and into liberty.
And so I think for me, love is the free cursor.
Prophecy without love is just fortune telling.
We don't want to do that.
We have to bring a revelation of Jesus because here's the thing.
The spirit of prophecy is the revelation of Jesus.
In other words, all prophetic ministers should lead to a love encounter with Jesus.
Oh my goodness.
People, my people, my people.
Are you guys there watching?
I love the different emojis and the different texts that people are sending in.
Amazing.
That thing of just having God's heart.
But even that thing of, Julie, what you said is that when you get up, the love
of wanting to be accurate, platform, all of that, you lay that down.
And it's so, I think that's so needed that we need to hear that.
I need to hear that.
I think there's a bunch of people as God is raising up.
We're in a joe two time.
God's going to put a spirit on all flesh.
Sons and daughters shall prophesy.
You've got to know where this thing is heading folks.
This thing is heading towards a massive breed of prophetic sons and daughters
rising up, hearing the voice of God, becoming the voice of God, because we
become the voice of God and release it in the earth.
I believe that's a major part of that versus as all of creation is in yearning,
excuse me, groaning in an eager anticipation for the revealing of the sons of God.
And part of it is that thing.
I love that man because I think there's such a seduction.
I feel like it's in those moments where it's easier to miss God when all of a sudden that
little bit of sneaky ego thing, that little like wanting to be seen, wanting to be known,
wanting to be accurate, I'd say, oh my God, I was in a social meeting and they got this and
they got that.
But it's a thing of stepping away from that and just saying, God, you love this person.
How do you want the expression that love to specifically take place?
And I love that thing that you basically were saying love demands communication,
love demands communication.
Final question, man.
And I don't want to keep you too long.
And so I love everybody that's jumped on.
Lily or Lily LTV just jumped on others.
I have always loved the prophetic and always jumped in it.
And I was modeled it in a very great way.
So I have a heart for people that maybe they had bad models and they have to overcome that
bad modeling they have.
I had great models and not saying that their lives were perfect or anything like that.
But they really loved the Lord and they were really kind.
I began to realize, bro, that the secret to the prophetic is found in the secret place.
So if I could ask you, I know it's like it's almost the equivalent of one guy saying it's
like asking to go to someone's bedroom, you know, and stuff.
But hey, Maddie, how you doing?
I see some people they wave what's going on, Maddie.
So I'm going to ask you a question.
Everybody, y'all are going to be blessed by me saying so.
I'm sure because I'm great.
What components, again, you have no way to fully exhaust what your quiet time is like.
But what specifically in the secret place in the quiet time do you do to connect to the heart of
God?
Because obviously prophesying is connecting to the heart of God and revealing his mind,
his emotions, his revelation to others.
But what helps you specifically connect to the heart of God in the secret place?
I am so glad you asked me that.
I think we're, if I can go on one quick tangent, we are in a place where everybody
is looking in on someone else's intimacy, which is really called voyeurism,
experimental voyeurism, and wanting that by way of sight without any covenant.
And the big change for me is when I begin to understand my union with Christ,
and so I begin there, Jesus, I think that I'm joined to you,
but I occupy the same space in trinitarian intimacy with you.
You see, I can give away the gift of prophecy, but I can't give away
my history with Jesus.
No one can impart that.
And so when I say time with him, rather than when I do the hard work of making time,
of finding time to be with him, I always begin with union.
This is who I now am, connect to you.
For me, worship is a big deal, the kind of unabandoned worship.
And I'll just be honest with you, I've got kids now, so that has been crazy,
but I find time to pray in times.
I find moments to spend with him.
I read scripture, not for a sermon.
I read scripture so that it can impact me.
These are some of the things.
And then the biggest thing is journaling, spending time writing out what God is speaking,
holding it in my heart, valuing what it looks like.
But if I would sum up this whole thing, praying in times, worshiping Jesus,
and spending time in listening prayer is what has shifted my intimacy levels with Jesus.
And I want to say this, we can give all the skillset,
you can't shortcut intimacy, and ultimately Jesus has called us to be with him
before we do anything for him.
And it's in the being with him that it all changes.
Man, what I love about that is, I feel like there are people that are trying to give you
shortcuts in a place where you can't get a shortcut, right?
Yep.
You can't get a shortcut to intimacy.
Like, you know, I know when you're little kids, you can meet somebody first thing on the playground,
and you go back and you go, that's my best friend.
And I love little kids' ability to connect like that.
But the truth be told, I think sometimes we think we can just meet with God real quick,
and all of a sudden he's our best friend.
He's like, no, relationship takes time.
And I love what you said.
Covenant, amen bro.
I love what you said about listening prayer, because God began to deal with me one time.
I was watching a late night talk show, somebody was on there,
I wanted to hear their perspective on something.
And I just felt like the Lord started a dialogue while I'm watching,
I forgot, I was one of the Jimmy, you know, Jimmy Kimmel or the other Jimmy,
Jimmy Fallon, I think it was the Jimmy Fallon show.
And he begins with the, I guess they call it the monologue.
And they've done that since back in the day, you know, all them old school talk shows,
you know, they were on.
And I just felt like the Lord says,
do people watch the monologue of this talk show and turn it off?
And that's all they wanted?
No, it's because someone's going to sit on the couch and there's going to be a dialogue.
And I feel like sometimes we jump up out of our prayer time,
we just had the monologue, we told God, I need this, I need this, Lord bless this,
Lord, please help me pay my bills here.
Do something about my spouse cause they crazy Lord.
Lord, we just pray that my boss at work is good.
And then we like, amen.
And we jump out.
But it's like, hold up, you had the monologue, but now wait and go into the dialogue.
It's like in that talk show, someone came and sat on the couch, they got comfortable
and they begin to talk.
And I just felt like the Lord says, you're just going to wait in my presence,
watch you've done your, you know, the monologue.
And obviously it's more than that, but I'm taking time to worship the Lord.
I'm telling the time to tell the Lord.
It's my checklist.
Yeah.
That I've found as I wait before the Lord, as I just get still, I feel like for a lot of people
and we're probably right at that point, but there's no time to decide that.
I feel like we're too busy and modern America, the pace of modern America is in such a hurried,
everything is blurred landscape, but you can't make the God of your salvation,
the captain of your salvation.
You can't make the ultimate lover of your soul, blurred scenery on the high.
You've got to slow down.
And when the Bible says, be still and know that I'm God, I found, and maybe you can speak to this
and we'll give more plug for the masterclass.
You know, it says, be still and know that I'm God.
I find if I can help teach people how to get still, they'll hear the voice of God.
Their difficulty isn't so much hearing the voice of God.
Their difficulty is getting still because you have all the other competing voices in your head.
You got your thoughts.
You got your mama's thoughts, what she wants.
You got your friend's thoughts.
You got what's turning on Twitter thinking you got whatever movie you want.
You got all these things, the worries, and then that's not even talking about the enemy yet
and all the stuff he's throwing, but the ability to get still where all this stuff just settles.
And all of a sudden I find as we can turn down the volume on their competing voices,
it's weird how the volume gets turned up on the Lord's voice.
What would you say to just the fact that people just said,
I've got so many thoughts.
I've got so much going through my head.
I'm so busy.
What can I do to get to that place where I just can become more still?
Here I think in an anxiety-obsessed and driven context where many people are
struggling with anxiety and thoughts are popping in ways that become uptrusive.
One of the things that really helped me and I've done this in church,
yeah, and thanks to Mark and Patty Berkler who wrote a book called Dialogue with God,
is I'm processing my thoughts with Jesus.
I feel anxious.
Can you help me still before I write a down in a piece of paper?
Because eventually all of the thoughts and you'd be surprised that you probably don't have as many
thoughts as you think you do in your head.
Get out of your head under a piece of paper so that you can actually be still in the presence of God.
And that's been a game changer for me.
If I'm thinking I need to do X, Y, and Z, Z, I'm worried about this and I just write a down in my time with Jesus,
process it within for a few minutes because once I've written a down in a second out of my head
and it opens me up to being still in His presence, there's something around intimacy that just requires
time and the stillness.
And I think that if you can find the space, I enjoy saying it, it helps me still my mind.
So a beautiful space that brings me into a calming place as I'm doing it.
But you know what the beautiful thing is, that word there, it says, you still know that I'm God,
is actually that whole Psalm is written in the context of warfare.
It's written in the context of the nation's raging and in the middle of that God saying,
be still.
And I've discovered that there's something, there's a place that I go to even in the midst of high
levels of tension where I'm going, God, you're the only one who can help me.
So I'm just going to rest a little bit.
And I intentionally do stuff that's counterintuitive.
Like when there's a demand for us, I will slow it down, step up for a while,
breathe in, spend time with Jesus and not allow the rush to dictate my peace.
And I think those practices begin to help you because life is inconvenient and we are living
in a season where anxiety has been growing at us and we've actually feel like the church is simply
accepting anxiety as pandemic.
I'm going, no, the Bible tells us, ask your anxiety onto the Lord, where He cares for you.
And I believe that as you begin to practice taking time to be with Him, the peace that's
on Him overwhelms your heart and mind and He gives you peace that doesn't make sense.
It passes and be standing.
And it's in that place of fullness that He begins to speak so clearly.
I love the interrupt of God.
I love the loud, moving voices of God.
But most importantly, I love His still small voice.
And that requires me to be still in order to hear His still small voice.
Julien, dude, you're a Jedi, bro.
Thanks for taking time.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, that is an incredible conversation.
I'm so glad we shared that with our Keep It On Our Tribe.
There were so many truths and revelations that that was just deep.
That was a deep conversation.
I loved it.
So many people love Julien.
This guy is gifted in the prophetic as anyone I've been around.
But in addition to that, his ability to break down the concepts and make them bite
sized or understandable for people is simply amazing.
And the guy is deep in the word.
And he just comes.
There isn't a religious bone in his body, but there's a complete respect for the word of God
and for the person of the Holy Spirit.
I am so glad that we were able to bring Julien to you guys in this incredible masterclass.
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