horror podcast i'm todd joined by my co -host
my wife it's becca hello hi and we're gonna watch
every horror movie together which is why of course
we had to watch the movie everybody's excited
about we saw obsession from 2026 directed by
curry barker i listened to our milk and cereal
episode again recently since we reposted on youtube
And I'm like, yeah, I don't know. This guy is
like some kind of comedian or something. It's
just funny hearing that because I feel like I
have learned so much about him in like the past
two years. Because that was 2024, right? With
Milk and Cereal. It's crazy. Yeah, it was in
2024. Yeah, it was on our top 10 that year. That's
crazy. Those top 10s are making it a lot easier
for me to track the years that horror movies
are coming out. But yeah, he is a YouTuber. Which
we're seeing a lot more of this now. People making
the jump, which really it makes so much sense.
I guess it was probably just a matter of like
people not getting the opportunities before.
It was probably like because of the stigma people
put on it. The ligma. But it makes sense. I mean,
you're spending that much time just making shit.
Yeah. And yeah, his channel is called That's
a Bad Idea. It's mostly like comedy skits and
stuff. And then randomly there is The Chair and
Milk and Cereal, which are both extremely good
short horror movies. So it's maybe not surprising,
but still a little crazy that he made this jump
into Obsession, which is his first feature film.
And it is such an insane hit. And I think that's
what I wanted to just get out of the way now,
because I think it's universally I've seen so
few criticisms. Oh, yeah. The ones that I have
seen are just fucking stupid. Yeah. It's like
people who just missed parts of the movie. It's
like they're purposefully missing it. I don't
know. You're always going to see those people.
I was waiting because I knew it's going to happen.
But it's just it's so rare that in the lead up
to this, I was. My cat, by the way, is attacking
my feet. Your cat. Our cat. She is attacking
my feet and it hurts really bad. Tried to just
talk through it. Nothing I could do about that.
Nope. I thought she was going to be cool and
lay with us today. Nope. She has too much energy
right now. No. But anyway, yeah, I was like,
I was super hyped for this movie for a while
now. And I usually, I don't really get hyped
for stuff like this because I'm usually just
like. Whatever. If I want to see it, I'll see
it when it comes out. Not going to think about
it until then. And I don't know about you. I
was really excited about this. Yeah. I think
it goes without saying that we were both very
excited for this. Like, I think I had quite a
few movies on my list of what I'm super excited.
She's attacking my feet. But I couldn't wait
to see this. And it like surpassed. My expectations.
Yeah. That's the crazy part is as excited as
I was, it didn't let me down in any way at all.
It's just insane when that happens. Cause this
movie, it kind of has it all. And it's especially
just, it's so noteworthy that it's his first
movie. He's young as shit. Like I heard him talk
about how he was in college during COVID and
it was like, you gotta get the fuck out of here
with that shit. But like this movie is just doing
so much. You know, like thematically it works
so well. Like, I don't know how he's nailing
these kind of relationship dynamics and everything
in this movie at that at the age that he is.
And I heard somebody mentioned that, like, it
was especially surprising the way that he was
writing women. Yeah. Like, I think if I didn't
know who he was, if I just randomly saw this
and was like, oh, I'd probably be surprised if
it was a male director, you know, because that
happens sometimes. We'll see something. It's
like, oh, a man directed this. That's crazy.
It feels kind of like that. And the fact that
he's so young makes it even crazier. Yeah. I
heard him say that he specifically does really
like writing female characters. Well, he's good
at it. He is good at it. But like, yeah, if somehow
you don't know about this movie, I mean, the
thing that this movie does is so interesting
is it presents the idea of like wishing that
someone would love you. You know, this is like.
trope that's gone back forever like the idea
of the love potion and already as a setup for
a horror movie I think that's part of why I was
so excited because you hear that and then in
the same breath you hear oh and it's extremely
fucking scary it's like I have no idea how those
two things can go together and they do Actually,
as a woman, I think I could definitely see how
scary that could be. Yeah, that's fair. And that
was that did give me a little bit of pause when
we had looked at some of the content warnings.
But yeah, man, whenever you see that stuff out
of context, it always looks buck wild. What was
it we saw was a ginger snaps. There was like
the whole page of content warnings and it wasn't
even that crazy. Yeah, but it's really the setup
is it's it's a bunch of friends that all work
together. And there's one character, Bear, who's
like madly in love with the character. Nikki
seems like they kind of go back a ways. And it's
the typical like nice guy, puppy dog kind of
love that he's too afraid to like admit to her.
And out of desperation, he uses this one wish
willow that he finds at like a crystal shop to
wish that she would love him more than anything.
And it's kind of like, what is the reality behind
a wish like that? I do think it's funny. I'm
listening to the new Dungeon Crawler Carl audiobook.
This is not a spoiler. But the idea of like a
kind of love potion thing comes up and Donut
is immediately like, no, that's a sex slave.
You don't fucking do that. That's terrible. It's
like very timely. And that's kind of that's who
you're getting at. That is the reality behind
something like this is like if you are forcing
someone to love you, like it kind of really goes
into. What would be going on in your mind if
somebody made that wish for you? Yeah. And I
think they explore that pretty well. Considering
that's like that is the whole movie. It is. Yeah,
it is explored in a way that's really fascinating.
It really kind of runs the gamut on different
types of like abusive relationships, really on
both ends. Because even though Bear is the main
character in this, he is not the most sympathetic
character. No, he's definitely not a good guy.
No. So that is something I'm going to be interested
in talking about, because I think we both have
history with abusive relationships. I don't know
how much you want to go into. You don't need
to get too crazy if you don't feel comfortable.
I'm going to share some things, though, about
my. passed because there were things in this
that were like way too familiar oh yeah for me
too there were some there was a moment where
i got really triggered but i had to luckily the
movie was fucking good it was really easy to
get right back into it but yeah i definitely
got triggered it earns that trauma definitely
um but i'll be interested in hearing at least
like what spoke to you because there were a few
parts in this that were just like man way too
real yeah Holy shit. Which is what I was saying
about him being so young. It's like, what the
fuck have you been through, man? Like, but it's
also fascinating that, you know, he has this
comedy background. He's kind of following in
the footsteps of a lot of other people like Jordan
Peele, Zach Krieger. You know, people who are
very involved in comedy then transitioned into
horror. A lot of these movies like Nope and Weapons
and Get Out. Creating horror with a sense of
humor, I think that is a lane that I really enjoy.
Yeah, I think it's being done in a completely
different way than it used to be. Where if you
were to see something that's considered a horror
comedy, it's usually like, I would say like 90
% comedy. Yeah, exactly. That's why I describe
it as like horror with a sense of humor. Because
it's a horror movie where there are parts where
it is okay to laugh and break the tension a little
bit. There are so many parts in this movie. Where
it felt like my eyes were watering because I
was so scared. But I had this. You were going
to cry? Your eyes are watering. Okay. This is
not me just trying to be manly or whatever. I
guess you cry very easily. I do. I cry all the
time. But my eyes also watered. No, when I get
really scared, my eyes just start watering. Yeah.
Maybe some people know what I'm talking about.
I know what you're talking about. It happened
to me. Well, they don't spill out of my eyeballs.
There's a difference. This isn't even my point.
There were, there were parts where I was like,
this movie is scary shit. Like there's no getting
around it. This movie is fucking ridiculous how
scary it is. Yes. But there were a lot of parts
where I was really scared, but I had like a big
smile on my face because it was just like, it
is almost funny how. disturbing and scary it
is and you could feel that nervous energy in
the theater where every now and then somebody
would chuckle but it didn't sound like a funny
chuckle it sounded like a what the fuck man kind
of chuckle which is super fun and it felt really
effective because we had a pretty packed theater
people were really excited about this and it
felt like everybody was locked in oh yeah like
even when it was over i think i heard some people
go like just breathe like yeah But it was a really
good time and it definitely made me wish we had
been able to see this at like a festival or something.
I know. I really like I think you had mentioned
it was at a festival we were looking at. Yeah.
I was like, damn, that would have been so cool.
I know. Why don't we just let's get through the
content warning so that we can get to the spoiler
section because we're going along and shit. Look,
movies like this. I'm always like this could
be a Zubia big boy. There are. a lot of content
warnings yeah for this movie like we tend to
we cover like the broad stuff we don't get super
um in the weeds because there are so many different
things people can get triggered by but this one
has a lot of the big ones i mean you have his
pet cat dies and you see it and you see it a
lot it does look fake but it also which i think
is good and that's not a criticism of we don't
need it to look real um but yeah And you linger
on it, too. You never see its face. No. I just
thought about that. That's probably a deliberate
choice. It's a very important part of the movie.
It doesn't feel like it's being gratuitous or
anything. The movie also has a surprising amount
of gore in it. And what's funny is I actually
read that the violence in this was cut down from
the festival version, which is a little disappointing.
I kind of want to know, like... what they cut
maybe that'll be in like the physical release
because apparently i think what i read was they
were trying to avoid an nc -17 rating oh okay
well they definitely were on the line yeah but
i'm wondering like what could they have possibly
cut i don't know um but yeah it does get pretty
violent and then of course the main thing deals
with the depiction of abusive relationships like
i'd heard before we went the reason why like
we had to come up with a game plan Because I
read that I read a couple of people who said
they basically had a panic attack in the parking
lot after seeing this. And so we had to come
up with the whole thing. You were wearing the
AirPods with the noise canceling. I had turnstile
loaded up. I love that their newest album. I've
queued that up just in case. Yeah. So that way,
like if it got to be too much, you could just
click the AirPod, close your eyes. We felt like
we had to be prepared. And you know what? I'm
glad I knew that going in. Because I wasn't even
thinking about that. Because I was like, well,
I know I'm going to want to see it. But I'm glad
that I was aware of... I mean, there is a scene
that is sexual assault. Like, it's non -consensual.
That too. And I'm glad I knew that. I mean, anything
involving sex in this context is going to be
a sexual assault because she isn't really in
a place where she can consent. No, not at all.
Were you OK with overall? Did you ever have to
turn the music on? No, I never had to turn the
music on or anything. Like I said, it kind of
like I think I was able to really like bounce
back from it pretty quickly because I just let
myself get immersed back into the movie instead
of like pondering in flashbacks. So, but it also,
it plays with suicide. Um, there are some jump
scares. I think he's doing really good at the
whole, like putting you on edge, building up
to something and then being like, it's like,
but then like in the next scene, he'll fuck you
up. What you expected in the first place. Yeah.
Yeah. So it definitely, it goes like a little
bit harder than I expected it to, but that's
some, that's the nature of the movie. You know,
and I think it just does such a great job with
every part of it that it's effective. It's so
well written, so well acted, so well directed,
like everything firing on all cylinders. And
it's just fucking eye wateringly scary. Yeah.
Did you have any other like general thoughts?
No, I want to get into it. Then let's get in
the spoilers and get into the heavy shit. I feel
like in the beginning I was kind of rooting for
him, you know, before we get into the whole wish
part. At the same time, it did feel like, I don't
know, there was kind of it felt like there were
some red flags very early on because the way
he just seemed like so nervously obsessed and
it seemed like it was not really reciprocated.
There was a certain point where it was kind of
like, brother, you got to move on. Yeah. But
it's just it is interesting how throughout the
rest of the movie, it's like he really he seems
to be the typical like nice guy type of dude.
And I think like just the fact that he makes
this wish shows how selfish that his feelings
are overall, because he's not taking her into
account at all. And I think that was something
in one of the interviews I saw recently is that
she had this personality that was very like outgoing.
Very confident. And then after the wish, it's
like she changes into this completely different
person. Yeah. I don't know how he could be with
someone like this when she is clearly acting
like a different person. Like it makes it feel
like he was never really in love with her. It
was like the idea of her. Yeah. When it starts
to get really scary is when they start like really
exploring what she is going through. I'm wondering
how you feel about this. It almost feels like
there is like. a separate entity that is taking
over her body. Yes. And she is just like somewhere
inside of there watching this all happen. Yeah.
It's just it's interesting how there is this
bit of lore because as crazy as the whole concept
is, it feels like the movie takes it very seriously
because there are a few parts where she's having
a moment with him and they give you those fucking
jump scares when it's almost like she wakes up
for like a second and freaks out. That stuff
is like it's scary in so many levels because
it was it was scary on the literal like jump
scare level. But then when you stop and really
think about what she's going through, it is it's
pretty terrifying. Actually, that was a really
good way to depict that she wasn't in control,
but still there. They also have the the first
one is the phone call when he calls the number
on the back of the one wish willow. and curry
barker answers i like how we both clocked that
immediately yeah well it made me laugh i don't
know what it is about that voice that just makes
me laugh i guess because i've seen so many like
videos now of them it just makes me laugh like
you know this guy's gonna say something fucking
funny it's like it's like tim robinson like as
soon as he starts talking he's like oh what's
this guy couldn't say it's gonna be funny and
you actually you caught a pretty crazy uh easter
egg right yeah i was looking through the cast
and i saw in the background tim robinson was
there and i'm thinking that's sneaky little it
makes so much sense his content is so similar
oh yeah we were talking about that too did he
say he was working on a comedy project i didn't
catch that um i'm not sure what type of project
it was but he said he wasn't allowed to really
say who's on the project but Immediately, I felt
like it's got to be Tim Robinson. That would
be so funny. That also might just be my bias
because I love Tim Robinson so much. It would
make so much sense. Yeah, it would. But it's
funny. We were both we were thinking that. And
then you see it in the credits. It's like you
fucking sneaky little bitch. Like I see you sneaking
it in. So when they announce a project together,
just remember, we fucking called it. But yeah,
when he makes the phone call. um when he's like
yeah you want to talk to her and you just hear
screaming in the background that really opens
the door to like this much bigger kind of world
it's almost it reminds me of stuff like talk
to me you know where it's like the implications
are so much bigger than this little pinhole thing
you're getting in the movie i think that was
like such an effective way to showcase that i
clocked right away remember when he was uh he
was like going on reddit to see What people were
saying about the one wish willow. Yeah. Like,
are wishes real? And all these people were like,
yeah, it's real. And I noticed all the people
that said no were people who hadn't tried it
yet. And I took no to that. It was like, oh,
so I guess there are really other people getting
wishes out there. And you get the shopkeeper
later, too, who's like, oh, no, I use my wish.
Yeah. What do you wish for? I don't know. But
did you see that he's exploring, Curry Barker
is exploring an anthology series with this? Yeah.
Which I think is going to be really cool. I saw
that. That's like one of those, I feel like there's
a few things everyone can bring up like, ah,
have you heard this? Because Curry Barker is
just on every algorithm. So there is, yeah, the
anthology of different wishes gone bad. There's
also Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And he... Just
finished filming a movie. Did you hear that?
No, I didn't. Oh, my God. It's a movie. It's
another horror movie with Aaron Paul. Oh, wait.
Yeah, I did hear about that. Right. Yeah. That's
so cool. I just love I mean, he's starting to
pull Oz Perkins here. He is. But you know what?
I love Oz Perkins. Yeah. So give me more. We
can get like three Curry Barker movies every
year. That'd be great. And also, if you haven't
seen Milk and Cereal, you should go see Milk
and Cereal. And The Chair. Yeah. But it was it
was like also interesting. And I think it effectively
describes Bear's character that he kind of figures
out at a certain point that like, yeah, the way
to stop this is just you got to die. Yeah. You
know, and the way that he just refuses to accept
responsibility and is trying to find so many
other ways, even just early on when she's starting
to act fucking crazy. The way he sits her down
is like, just can you please not do that? Like,
can you please be normal? And this is just all
of his own making. Yeah. But it shows how much
he is just really trying to construct this perfect,
you know, dream relationship that just doesn't
exist. Yeah. And his whole life falls apart because
of it. Yeah. But it just takes until like the
very end of the movie for him to even take any
responsibility. And even then he tries to pull
out at the last second. We'll get to that whole
thing later. Yeah. Because I actually, I have
some stuff to say about the ending. Okay. But
yeah, the scares in this, I mean, part of it
comes from the relationship dynamics, which I'm
going to get to in a second. But goddamn, that
scene when she is watching him sleep from the
corner of the fucking room. That scene literally
made me cry. That was, yeah. That was one of
the scenes that made my eyes water. I guess I
was like pre -crying. Pre -cry, okay. That was
too goddamn much. No, it's the way she was hidden,
but the way you could just see enough of her
face. And she was talking to him. And she looked.
Yeah, but she was talking to him and then she
made this insane frown that I've never seen a
human make before. And it made me so uncomfortable
and I was so scared. There were a lot of parts.
I think this is so worth watching in theaters
because the way that there are so many parts
where she'll be in the dark and you can just
barely see her face. Yeah. I know that a lot
of people are going to watch this at home on
their shitty ass. tvs that they configured wrong
yeah so it's gonna be too bright it's like it
is so perfectly rendered and it's so fucking
creepy yeah because it happens a lot where she'll
be in the dark and you'll see her eyes shining
yeah and you can't really see her face well apparently
they specifically lit her eyes like that to make
it i'm not surprised i thought that that was
really cool and it was very effective so what's
so interesting though with their relationship
i guess i'll uh i want to know like what resonated
with you but i guess i'll like start what makes
it so interesting is the way that it handles
both sides of this where obviously nikki is not
in control of her action she's not to blame for
any of this but the way that this entity works
is very accurately depicting a certain side of
a abusive relationship while bear has like a
whole different side being more like controlling
And manipulative in his own ways. But the big
ones for me, one that really just had me feeling
super uncomfortable was the restaurant scene.
Because remember, he calls her out for lying
about her father. And she freaks the fuck out.
She goes, don't do that. And it was like, boy,
you better not. It is so fucked up, though, because
that's what I'm getting at. You really I feel
like you really put yourself out there on here
often. And I'm kind of sitting back. So I do
want to talk a little bit more about my past
experiences. I feel like it's only fair. But
like there were a couple of times when in a past
relationship, I would catch them lying about
something. And if we were in public, that would
happen. As a defensive reaction, they would just
flip the fuck out and make a big scene. And that
shit, that was like just part of what made that
relationship feel, make me feel so anxious all
the goddamn time. Yeah. So that was like very
real. What, um, what really hit for you? Well,
I, it was the sex scene. Like the way, first
of all, Indy did an incredible job. performing
in this film um she's gonna be in fucking everything
i hope her career blasts off because i'm ready
to see it but specifically how she captured it's
almost like being disembodied she like disassociated
yeah i guess i haven't really been able to like
think about it much because think about all the
other stuff yeah i'm seeing the way that she
acted that scene i'm sure there are other people
who can also associate with that feeling, unfortunately.
But I think that she acted it in a way where
I was more attached to my sympathy for her. Well,
I think you're getting a look at the real her
in that moment. Well, yeah. Yeah, that was really
effective between that and the part where she's
talking in her sleep and just telling him to
kill her. It's like, it just really captures
that feeling of being trapped. And being unable
to have any kind of autonomy or control over
your life, it's very scary. And I think a lot
of people experience that too in relationships
because you'll feel trapped for one reason or
another. That was definitely how I felt. And
it does make you feel kind of like you don't
have control of your life. Just the idea of being
with someone and every day wondering, like, what's
it going to be today? You know, like that kind
of anxiety was scary. It like really took me
back to that. I'm so fucking thankful I met you.
Jesus Christ. Thankful I met you too. That is
by far the best thing that ever happened to me.
It's interesting because even though in this
literal sense, it's like, you know what's happening,
that it's this wish. But to everyone on the outside,
notice that they see it as a problematic relationship
and they all blame Bear. I thought that was interesting
because it's like they are right. No, they're
right. But they don't realize why they're right.
Yeah. But it's because, yeah, on the outside,
it looks like he is taking advantage of her in
some way. Yeah. Well, apparently, you know, she's
has this lie about her dad or whatever, which
everyone's confused about. But at the same time,
they're like, well, if that is true, then why
are you doing this? Like she's not in a good
place. Exactly. Which is like, yeah, it's a fucking
good question, because I think it really starts
to hone in on the idea that this is not a good
situation and it is at Nikki's expense. Like
she is the victim here. And he had to fucking
know something was wrong. Like as soon as she
duct taped the door, there was like. Well, I
think that goes in line with he was willing to
sacrifice whatever it was, whatever quirks or
things that. happened because he was just with
her just for his fantasy yeah yeah i think he
was well aware that was not good he just was
like i guess this is what i gotta do he has no
excuse like he has to know she's suffering but
this is all really leading up to the ending and
i think like one of the big turning points leading
up to that was when um bear met with his friend
what was her name sarah uh which is the scene
that has the most gore by far in the movie that
scene was pretty crazy i managed to like totally
stay in the dark i didn't know what was coming
why were they they were already spoiling i'm
fucking sure because i saw a few people need
to chill out with that shit that's crazy movie
just came out well i saw a few things where it
was when i saw people talking about how surprisingly
violent it was and i just had to like stop reading
so many comments So that managed to be pretty
fucking shocking. But it was also kind of scary
because I think that's a real turning point.
After that, it's like, even if he breaks this
wish, he has ruined her life. Yeah. You know
what I mean? Yeah. That's the first like truly
irreversible part of this. And of course, it's
interesting that that's the point when he starts
like desperately trying to figure out how the
fuck do I stop this thing? Leading up to him,
like, finally taking some responsibility to kill
himself. And even that, like, the way he's going
through all these different things to figure
out, like, what would be the easiest way for
me to do this? Yeah. Like, even then. In the
end scene where Sarah's body is, like, mutilated
in the room. Oh, yeah. And then it's just, like,
blood and gore everywhere. It really made me
think of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which I thought
was interesting now knowing. Yeah. He got the
keys to the Texas Chainsaw for A24, right? Oh,
I don't know. I think it was. I thought it was.
Maybe not. That would be pretty cool. This is
definitely his wheelhouse. Yeah. I did hear that
he hasn't seen all of the Texas Chainsaw movies
yet, though. He said he was, like, doing research.
Oh, yeah. I had to remember, like, all right,
he's young. He's very young. We have, unfortunately,
been through every one of those. We have, yes.
But it's, like, it is a... very bleak ending
because at a certain point I was wondering like
who is going to die here like because clearly
someone's going to have to die and it almost
sets it up as like there are a few different
possibilities like you know the one possibility
is that he doesn't die and she makes the wish
that he would love her back basically what the
fuck does that look like having to live out your
entire life with both of you trapped in a love
spell That's pretty scary on its own because
then neither of you have any control. But then
there's also the possibility of both of them
dying, which seems like pretty unfair if Nikki
should have to like meet that kind of fate after
all of this. And then the one that we actually
get is just Bear dies. Nikki's alive. And maybe
it's not really any better. Because her entire
life is fucked up. Oh, yeah. She wakes up in
a room and all her friends are dead. Like, yeah.
Well, and who knows how aware she was of all
of this? You know what I mean? Because I do wonder.
Yeah. I don't know if she was like able to keep
track of what was happening. That's the question
is like how much of her was in there? Was she
just coming out sometimes or was she seeing everything
and just unable to control herself? My interpretation
was that her coming out every now and then was
either a glitch in the spell or that she was
pushing so hard to like get to the surface. Like
maybe it takes a lot to get to the surface. Those
are very interesting questions around like the
lore of this wish. And I'm glad we don't fully
get the answers. You know, I think it's great
to have like a little ambiguity here. I think
I'm on a line where like I personally would kind
of want to know a little bit more. I think there's
a part of me that wants to see like the One Wish
Willow call center. I feel like it's just Curry
Barker dressed up as the devil. That's where
Tim Robinson is. He's definitely in there. What
was his background work? The thing is, Tim Robinson,
I want to see. He was listed in the movie as
background. I want to see it. It's definitely
a little fucking Easter egg somewhere. I have
to watch the movie again, which I don't know.
Look, I really, really love this movie. Oh, I
want to see it again. Pretty bad. But I'm so
scared to watch it again. It's cool because there
are just so many different scary parts. Yeah.
That's what's so great. It's not like, oh, there's
that one big crazy part. It's like, no, it's
just fucking constant. weird scary shit but like
the the kind of thought that i had about the
ending which i really thought about when we first
started talking this movie really feels like
it has like young director energy because i think
something i'm seeing more and more we've talked
about this the idea of like bleak endings and
how we're like generally not a fan of them and
i think it really it's probably partly because
we're just fucking old I think that is something
that as you get older, you're kind of like, all
right, I get it. Like, give me something. Give
me a high note to end this on because I know
I fucking know how terrible shit is. Yeah, I
think there's something about as you get older,
you witness things that are more bleak in real
life. Yeah. But I feel like it's these young
directors who are still like, yeah, let's fuck
them up. You know, they don't have that same
perspective. I mean, you saw it with the Philippines
too, like they love their bleak ass endings.
And I'm not complaining. I think there really
wasn't any other way to end this. Well, I think
there's been a lot more empathy being rolled
into horror than there used to be. There used
to be a lot of films that would really explore
super bleak, horrible. sexual assault scenes
and all kinds of stuff all all the bad stuff
we know all about we went back to the 2000s where
animals are just dying in every fucking horror
movie yeah but it's being ripley i'm losing my
train of thought there's too many things happening
um i think there's a there's been a lot of horror
films that just put a lot of gratuitous horrible
things in movies just to do it Just to be like,
check out how fucked up this is. Yeah, it's all
for shock value. And it's honestly, it's boring.
And I'm glad we have like separated from that.
Those are the parts of horror that I don't like.
I think it's weird. Sometimes it's fetish shit.
And it's like, I don't want it in the film. I
feel like you only put it in the film so you
could take advantage of the actress. And it's
like, I don't want to see that. Where I'm coming
down more and more is like, you have to earn
it. Like, I don't have a problem with. bleak
content bleak endings but you gotta earn it and
i think that um obsession they earned it well
it's all very effectively done it's all being
handled with care and i heard that there were
a lot of women that worked on this film which
is really cool i love to hear that uh specifically
the production design was a woman and that is
super fucking cool that one wish willow design
is so cool yes yeah yeah i read a lot about how
they came up with that and It's so interesting,
like, how much goes into that little fucking
thing. Yeah, and the Green Man, that's an actual
store in Burbank. Oh. Which I thought was really
cool. The Crystal Mommy store? Yeah, the Crystal
Mommy store. I was like, wow, they did pretty
good. That is what they look like. Well, it's
because it's a real store. And you can go there,
I think, limited time. They have One Wish Willows.
You can go pick up a proper book. Oh, that's
too fucking cool. Yeah. I would love to have
a little One Wish Willow. I wouldn't use it,
though. God, I hope not. You don't even need
to. You already got it. You didn't have to fucking
hypnotize me to do it. Thank God, because I don't
want to do any of that. Oh, that's scary. Yeah.
And you know, if A24 had gotten this, that fucking
little one -wish willow would have been on the
A24 shop for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We lost out
on that. This has been a great fucking month.
I mean, we had Kokum. now we got obsession all
we got left is back rooms ready for that to blow
my fucking tits off next weekend right i think
it's the one after i'm just so excited to see
it yeah may is uh crazy for horror movies right
now but it makes me kind of nervous for the rest
of the year because i feel like we've been really
spoiled at the beginning of the year with all
this good horror Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I know it is horror, but I'm really excited for
a scary movie. I'm like, I don't know. I don't
think I'm with you. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, man.
I think because I had so many good memories watching
those. I do, too. I think it's more, I don't
know if you've been keeping up on the stuff they've
been releasing, like the posters and new trailers
and stuff. I have been curious about the posters.
Because if they're using AI, that would really
suck. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think they
do. I think people pointed out that the early
posters look just like this and they think it's
just shitty Photoshop. That's the lineage. Hey,
that's good. But it's more like, man, some of
these jokes they're making are like the most
fucking obvious stupid jokes. But also, I feel
like, what, if they didn't do it, then people
would be like, we didn't put this in here. Well,
we'll see. We'll see. I mean, it's always possible
because Naked Gun. That came out recently and
somehow it's a similar type of movie and it was
really funny. Yeah. We avoided seeing that for
a while because we were like, there's no fucking
way. Well, I was never interested to begin with,
but it was funny. We'll see. I'm going to give
it a chance. I guess we'll have to see it in
theaters because you want to be laughing with
everybody. Yeah, I want to see it. But imagine
if every joke falls flat in that theater. Then
that's what happens. But I'm really excited about
seeing Curry Barker's next movies. Yeah. Because
I can't imagine. I don't need to jigs it, but
I can't imagine that he's going to this is going
to be like a one hit kind of thing. Like, I think
he's really got the juice. No, I think I think
he's really great. And I think what's so great
about it is like for I think this must be how
some people felt. probably in like the 70s or
the 80s, where you'd have these really cool horror
movies come out and you'd like grow with the
director. Oh, yeah. Seeing the beginning of this
is really cool just because he seems like such
a genuine, nice person who just likes, he just
loves film. And what more could you want? Like,
that's who I want making movies. Dropped out
of film school to make YouTube comedy shorts.
I'm an art school dropout too, so. Yup. Sometimes
you gotta just get out there and do the fucking
work. I was reminded again that I curse too much
on here. I didn't even notice it. I'm sorry.
But I don't got anything else. Did you have anything
else? I probably have way more to say. We gotta
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Okay. I love when we finally get something that's
like going to go toward the top of the list.
We've been having a lot of episodes where it's
like number 100 something. I'm going to be honest.
Yeah. But I put it above sinners and below in
a violent nature. Yeah, I think I agree. See,
I feel like Sinners was a different horror movie.
But yeah, I'll say yeah. That puts it number
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out this year that we should be paying attention
to? Because I cannot get excited about Passenger.
I don't know why. Yeah, I've seen ads for it,
and I was like, I added it in. I do want to see
Leviticus. Pretty bad. Bye.