WEBVTT 00:00:08.399 --> 00:00:11.839 A horror pod. Look at this. You have this pulled 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.720 all the way over. I'm not doing that on purpose. 00:00:14.339 --> 00:00:18.539 Just do that. I can move over. I'm like reaching. 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.579 You can move it as much as you need. Are you 00:00:21.579 --> 00:00:25.059 good? Do you want more? No. I can move over. 00:00:26.620 --> 00:00:29.940 A horror podcast. I'm Todd. I'm by my wife, Becca. 00:00:30.300 --> 00:00:34.479 Hi. How are you doing? Okay. Okay. And we're 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.530 going to watch every horror movie together. How 00:00:37.530 --> 00:00:40.670 are you doing? Fantastic. It's my favorite thing 00:00:40.670 --> 00:00:45.829 to do. And we watched Undertone from 2026, the 00:00:45.829 --> 00:00:48.909 new movie that the internet loves to hate. Oh, 00:00:48.909 --> 00:00:51.409 yeah. The internet really loves to hate this 00:00:51.409 --> 00:00:54.289 one. We're going to get into that. But it's directed 00:00:54.289 --> 00:00:57.729 by Ian Tawson, according to The Hollywood Reporter. 00:00:58.009 --> 00:01:00.909 Hope that's right. He's directed shorts, but 00:01:00.909 --> 00:01:03.210 this is his first feature film from what I could 00:01:03.210 --> 00:01:05.769 tell. The one thing I did read about the production, 00:01:05.870 --> 00:01:09.120 it seemed like... He made this movie and sold 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:14.859 it to A24. So this became the new big A24 horror 00:01:14.859 --> 00:01:17.980 release that got a ton of promotion, lots of 00:01:17.980 --> 00:01:20.439 marketing. I feel like I wasn't getting hit by 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:22.900 it too much, considering how much people complained 00:01:22.900 --> 00:01:25.420 about that. Oh, I got it a lot. Oh, really? It 00:01:25.420 --> 00:01:27.599 was all over my algorithm. And it got to the 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.920 point where I was getting... ads consistently 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:31.659 on youtube about it whereas like i don't want 00:01:31.659 --> 00:01:34.079 to see the trailer like trying to stop showing 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.519 me you do watch a lot of youtube yeah i do um 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.879 yeah i think my my only real exposure to it was 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.640 i signed up for that a24 fan club thing so i 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:46.719 could get you some stuff for christmas they're 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.219 still sending me text messages promoting new 00:01:49.219 --> 00:01:52.099 movies which is fun they're whoever manages that 00:01:52.099 --> 00:01:54.400 is insane though because i was seriously getting 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.579 sent like random audio files and i would click 00:01:57.579 --> 00:01:59.980 on it it was just random noises it's like 824 00:01:59.980 --> 00:02:02.180 what the fuck are you telling me like i don't 00:02:02.180 --> 00:02:04.739 know what this is see like i think that kind 00:02:04.739 --> 00:02:07.260 of marketing is kind of cool it's it didn't like 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:09.199 it didn't make me angry it just made me like 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:11.680 so confused like what the fuck are you doing 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.340 but it was i guess it was interesting yeah i 00:02:14.340 --> 00:02:18.580 i like seeing movies take uh at least for marketing 00:02:18.580 --> 00:02:21.400 techniques getting different with it instead 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.860 of Let me show you the whole movie in two minutes. 00:02:24.259 --> 00:02:26.460 Yeah, that's true because I didn't know anything 00:02:26.460 --> 00:02:29.800 about the movie itself. I just knew that they 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.300 were sending me weird noises in my text messages. 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:35.699 So then later, like closer to release, that's 00:02:35.699 --> 00:02:37.979 when I started hearing that it was supposed to 00:02:37.979 --> 00:02:40.900 be very scary. I think the only things that I'd 00:02:40.900 --> 00:02:43.979 heard going into it was like, it's very scary 00:02:43.979 --> 00:02:46.900 and the sound is really nuts. So you should see 00:02:46.900 --> 00:02:49.039 it with a good sound system, like in a theater. 00:02:49.219 --> 00:02:51.789 Yeah. I think that's all I knew about it. What 00:02:51.789 --> 00:02:56.330 about you? I tried to avoid everything. I did 00:02:56.330 --> 00:02:59.550 my best to just like scrolling past it, not reading 00:02:59.550 --> 00:03:01.990 about it, not looking at it. I really knew nothing 00:03:01.990 --> 00:03:05.969 about it. I think what really got me to want 00:03:05.969 --> 00:03:09.189 to see it was I started getting like Skinnamarink 00:03:09.189 --> 00:03:12.370 vibes off of this. Just from seeing like the 00:03:12.370 --> 00:03:15.009 reception as it was starting to come in. Because 00:03:15.009 --> 00:03:16.610 I saw there were people who were like, this is 00:03:16.610 --> 00:03:19.439 super fucking scary and awesome. And then there's 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.199 the people like, nothing happened. This was boring 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.259 as shit. And we're in the Skinnamer gang, for 00:03:25.259 --> 00:03:27.719 sure. So whenever I see that, it actually makes 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.419 me want to see it more. I don't know if it's 00:03:30.419 --> 00:03:33.539 kind of like, what's that called? A devil's advocate? 00:03:35.340 --> 00:03:39.759 What? My mind was also thinking like a gooner, 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:44.219 but I'm like, that's not it. It's something like 00:03:44.219 --> 00:03:49.110 that. No, it's not. It's not even close. I'm 00:03:49.110 --> 00:03:54.370 sorry. Do you know what a gooner is? Yes, I know 00:03:54.370 --> 00:03:59.090 what a gooner is. Is that just a person who jacks 00:03:59.090 --> 00:04:05.789 off and stuff? Pretty much. Right? A few moments 00:04:05.789 --> 00:04:09.349 later. But I'm glad we saw it in theaters. I 00:04:09.349 --> 00:04:12.250 think my impression afterwards is that maybe 00:04:12.250 --> 00:04:15.610 you liked it more than I did. Yeah, I guess. 00:04:15.710 --> 00:04:17.069 I don't know. I don't know how much you liked 00:04:17.069 --> 00:04:23.649 it. So we kind of avoid talking about the movie 00:04:23.649 --> 00:04:26.310 after the movie. Yeah, it's fun. Now I can guess 00:04:26.310 --> 00:04:29.550 how you feel. I guess we'll get through that. 00:04:29.709 --> 00:04:32.610 But like overall, I think the theater experience 00:04:32.610 --> 00:04:35.529 was great. I think this will also be a great 00:04:35.529 --> 00:04:37.329 movie to watch in the dark with your headphones 00:04:37.329 --> 00:04:39.589 on. Yeah. That might actually be even better. 00:04:39.709 --> 00:04:42.290 That's probably scarier. Honestly, yeah. Considering 00:04:42.290 --> 00:04:45.279 that this is a... podcaster horror movie yeah 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.060 and i think maybe that's the thing that people 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:51.000 have to understand going into it is like this 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:53.779 is kind of a movie about the experience it's 00:04:53.779 --> 00:04:56.540 about the vibes you know it is very slow there 00:04:56.540 --> 00:04:59.600 isn't really yeah much of a story yeah you're 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.459 kind of going along the beats of this person's 00:05:02.459 --> 00:05:06.699 day almost yeah so but it's like the basic setup 00:05:06.699 --> 00:05:09.079 i mean it really doesn't matter i we went in 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.319 kind of blind i don't think it would have made 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.120 any difference if i knew what it was about because 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.860 it's nothing crazy. It's just basically it kind 00:05:16.860 --> 00:05:18.939 of all takes place in this one house, which is 00:05:18.939 --> 00:05:23.100 really interesting. And it's a woman who is caring 00:05:23.100 --> 00:05:26.459 for her mother, who is like in a coma, seems 00:05:26.459 --> 00:05:29.000 to be dying. So taking care of her during like 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.839 her final days. And she also has a like creepy 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.949 pasta podcast that she does. With her friend 00:05:36.949 --> 00:05:39.230 who's like living across the world, which was 00:05:39.230 --> 00:05:41.230 like a good idea because it means she's always 00:05:41.230 --> 00:05:43.730 recording at three in the fucking morning. Like 00:05:43.730 --> 00:05:46.189 an excuse for that. Oh, yeah. I think I think 00:05:46.189 --> 00:05:48.870 that was really good setup. Yeah. But it's just, 00:05:48.889 --> 00:05:51.829 you know, it's like if a creepypasta actually 00:05:51.829 --> 00:05:56.170 went bad while having like this story around 00:05:56.170 --> 00:05:57.889 it that I thought was really effective because 00:05:57.889 --> 00:06:00.410 it watching her go through this with her mother, 00:06:00.470 --> 00:06:04.230 it kind of makes this feel almost like a. the 00:06:04.230 --> 00:06:07.050 personification of that anxiety you know of having 00:06:07.050 --> 00:06:09.949 to experience that i don't want to get too far 00:06:09.949 --> 00:06:11.829 at this point i don't even know what is a spoiler 00:06:11.829 --> 00:06:14.449 because it's like it's such a tightly packed 00:06:14.449 --> 00:06:16.870 like small movie it's about the experience more 00:06:16.870 --> 00:06:18.850 than the story you know but if we're going to 00:06:18.850 --> 00:06:22.569 get into a content warning for this there isn't 00:06:22.569 --> 00:06:26.250 there's no violence or anything like that and 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:29.689 the one big thing i can say i don't know if this 00:06:29.689 --> 00:06:32.639 is a spoiler or not but i mean that's where we 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.540 are with the content warnings you know if you 00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:38.100 want to know here it is but if you don't then 00:06:38.100 --> 00:06:40.939 skip ahead this is not a movie that really has 00:06:40.939 --> 00:06:44.060 jump scares so if you're worried about that it's 00:06:44.060 --> 00:06:49.100 like some jump scares maybe a little bit like 00:06:49.100 --> 00:06:51.860 once or twice yeah but it really is mostly just 00:06:51.860 --> 00:06:55.199 about building this feeling of anxiety so you're 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:59.540 just stuck edging yeah in this anxiety ridden 00:06:59.540 --> 00:07:02.660 state for like the whole movie yeah um and maybe 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:04.920 that's like my one real complaint is it feels 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.899 like it doesn't have a lot of payoff to it but 00:07:08.899 --> 00:07:11.180 i don't know i'll get into that with the spoilers 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:13.279 when we start talking about the story in depth 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:17.740 Scared the shit out of you though. I can't remember 00:07:17.740 --> 00:07:19.519 the last time we saw a movie at theaters where 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.040 you're like grabbing onto me. I got absorbed. 00:07:22.379 --> 00:07:25.100 I think it was the audio. I think. Oh yeah. Oh, 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.060 that makes complete sense because you're very 00:07:28.060 --> 00:07:30.740 sensitive to sound. Yes. I always have to bring 00:07:30.740 --> 00:07:34.699 my AirPods so you can block the sound out. I 00:07:34.699 --> 00:07:36.879 think I have like misophonia or something. This 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:38.759 is definitely, would you say this is a horror 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.920 movie for misophonia? You know what? That's up 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.079 to that's up to you. Like, I guess if you do 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:46.959 want to know that beforehand. Yeah, this thing. 00:07:46.980 --> 00:07:50.100 This is probably one of the most sound based 00:07:50.100 --> 00:07:55.259 horror movies I've encountered. And wearing earplugs 00:07:55.259 --> 00:07:58.519 helps like and it was still really scary. Like, 00:07:58.579 --> 00:08:01.579 I think for me, it probably would have been miserable 00:08:01.579 --> 00:08:06.300 if I did not have earphones in. Yeah, maybe that's 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:08.160 worth pointing out, too, because I know a lot 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.680 of people do have sensitivities like that. Yeah. 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:16.779 This also deals with the idea or concept of miscarriages 00:08:16.779 --> 00:08:20.660 and pregnancy in general. So if that's, you know, 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.379 if that's a trigger for you, just be aware. Absolutely. 00:08:23.579 --> 00:08:26.060 And of course, like loss of a parent. But I think 00:08:26.060 --> 00:08:28.079 we might have mentioned that. Yeah, we kind of 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.939 did. Yeah, I mean, if you're into vibes horror, 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.220 if you're into like experience horror. I think 00:08:35.220 --> 00:08:36.799 it's worth checking out. It's like maybe not 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.700 the best, but I had fun with it. And I heard 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:41.460 that this guy, apparently, I think he's doing 00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:43.700 the next Paranormal Activity movie. Oh, that's 00:08:43.700 --> 00:08:46.379 really cool. That checks out. Yeah, that'll be 00:08:46.379 --> 00:08:48.860 cool. I think this is worth seeing in the theater. 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.419 I feel like it's still out when we put this out. 00:08:51.539 --> 00:08:55.220 Go see it. It's worth it. This is probably coming 00:08:55.220 --> 00:08:58.970 out way after it comes out. Then I guess you're 00:08:58.970 --> 00:09:00.789 going to have to sit alone in the dark with some 00:09:00.789 --> 00:09:02.990 headphones. Yeah, I think that would still be 00:09:02.990 --> 00:09:05.049 really good. I really do think you should watch 00:09:05.049 --> 00:09:07.289 this with headphones on. It was really all about 00:09:07.289 --> 00:09:09.669 the audio. Yeah, and I know a lot of people say 00:09:09.669 --> 00:09:13.289 that about Skinnam Rank, but like this isn't 00:09:13.289 --> 00:09:15.490 this is definitely not on the Skinnam Rank level. 00:09:15.629 --> 00:09:18.470 I think if there's a scale where it's like paranormal 00:09:18.470 --> 00:09:20.909 activity on one side and Skinnam Rank on the 00:09:20.909 --> 00:09:22.909 other, this is like in the middle. It's such 00:09:22.909 --> 00:09:26.230 a weird scale. It is a weird scale, but. If you 00:09:26.230 --> 00:09:27.950 are a fan of either type of horror, you know 00:09:27.950 --> 00:09:29.929 what I'm talking about. Or if you hate the other 00:09:29.929 --> 00:09:32.169 one, you know what I'm talking about. So it's 00:09:32.169 --> 00:09:35.490 okay. But I think we got a lot more to talk about. 00:09:35.629 --> 00:09:38.649 So why don't we get to spoilers? Yeah? Yeah. 00:09:38.889 --> 00:09:46.549 Okay. Usually you just go. It was very funny 00:09:46.549 --> 00:09:50.710 to me that this is basically a horror movie for 00:09:50.710 --> 00:09:53.610 podcasters. Yeah. Because it is so centered around 00:09:53.610 --> 00:09:57.279 recording a podcast. So many of the spooks come 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.259 from the podcast. It's like it's a silly idea 00:10:00.259 --> 00:10:04.220 if you think about it. It was especially driving 00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:07.860 me crazy the way that like it's kind of the Blair 00:10:07.860 --> 00:10:10.039 Witch Project kind of cadence, like the day night 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:13.139 kind of thing where in the daytime it seems to 00:10:13.139 --> 00:10:16.340 be like developing the story, showing what's 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:18.980 happening with their mom. And then at night when 00:10:18.980 --> 00:10:21.519 they record the podcast, that's when it's time 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.379 to get spooky. But there were times when they 00:10:24.379 --> 00:10:26.259 were recording for like five minutes and they 00:10:26.259 --> 00:10:27.639 were like, all right, let's stop and pick it 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.779 up tomorrow. They took like three nights to get 00:10:29.779 --> 00:10:32.240 through one podcast. Do you know how crazy that 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.759 would be? I also found that odd because I was 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.220 like, wow, they really weren't talking that long. 00:10:38.820 --> 00:10:41.059 I don't know. I just feel like that would be 00:10:41.059 --> 00:10:42.919 such a pain in the ass to edit. Like, I can't 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.820 even imagine. And is this their like full time 00:10:45.820 --> 00:10:47.899 job? It seemed like they were really popular. 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.120 Oh, yeah. It seemed like it was a really popular 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.820 podcast. I did notice, though. That they were 00:10:52.820 --> 00:10:55.299 in like the no camera gang because there was 00:10:55.299 --> 00:10:58.159 no. That's true. No face. Yeah. And they were 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.879 still super fucking popular. All right. Because 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.740 that's hope. You don't need a camera. And maybe 00:11:03.740 --> 00:11:07.799 one day, but I don't know. No. But the overall 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.860 story, I think the weirdest thing for me. Did 00:11:11.860 --> 00:11:16.200 you notice the kind of religious themes in this? 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:19.879 I was very confused about that because it felt 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:23.490 like she. was talking about getting an abortion. 00:11:23.789 --> 00:11:26.690 It was almost like she was targeted because of 00:11:26.690 --> 00:11:30.210 that. Yeah, I got a little lost on the story, 00:11:30.230 --> 00:11:33.769 if I'm being honest. I'm not familiar with what 00:11:33.769 --> 00:11:36.730 they were talking about, and also I don't really 00:11:36.730 --> 00:11:39.029 know if enough was explained for me to fully 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:42.789 understand everything, but it seemed like there's 00:11:42.789 --> 00:11:48.129 some demon that... I'm trying. I want to hear 00:11:48.129 --> 00:11:51.330 what you think the story is. There's some demon 00:11:51.330 --> 00:11:55.889 that targets women who are fertile because, I 00:11:55.889 --> 00:11:59.710 guess, in a past life or itself is unfertile. 00:11:59.990 --> 00:12:03.929 Okay, so it targets pregnant women. Yes. And 00:12:03.929 --> 00:12:06.549 what was the whole deal with the nursery rhymes? 00:12:06.690 --> 00:12:09.210 Like, what was it that even drew it in? I think 00:12:09.210 --> 00:12:13.970 the nursery rhymes are like spells or something 00:12:13.970 --> 00:12:18.210 or warnings. But when played backwards, it's 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:21.909 like... a hex or something or i don't know i'm 00:12:21.909 --> 00:12:24.409 not sure it was like the fucking ring i feel 00:12:24.409 --> 00:12:25.950 like i'm doing a lot of reaching for the movie 00:12:25.950 --> 00:12:29.330 because i i can't i'm trying it was like the 00:12:29.330 --> 00:12:32.909 ring it was like you listen to this podcast in 00:12:32.909 --> 00:12:36.309 seven days you die well i mean i think that audio 00:12:36.309 --> 00:12:39.070 was like that i think that's kind of what happened 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:41.750 at the end yeah because they do an incantation 00:12:41.750 --> 00:12:43.950 and then she's fucking saying it it's like what 00:12:43.950 --> 00:12:45.769 are you doing why are you saying that now you 00:12:45.769 --> 00:12:50.129 just got cursed good job But the other thing 00:12:50.129 --> 00:12:52.450 that threw me off was there was a part where 00:12:52.450 --> 00:12:55.309 she was talking about her mom and how she felt 00:12:55.309 --> 00:12:58.990 guilty was saying like she killed her mom. And 00:12:58.990 --> 00:13:01.090 then her explanation was that she didn't pray 00:13:01.090 --> 00:13:03.490 with her. And I was waiting to see, like, where 00:13:03.490 --> 00:13:06.610 are we going with this? I don't know. I'm not 00:13:06.610 --> 00:13:10.370 sure. I will say that if we're just in the story 00:13:10.370 --> 00:13:15.169 here, I thought it was interesting how her character 00:13:15.169 --> 00:13:17.899 switched from like. i don't know she seemed like 00:13:17.899 --> 00:13:20.899 really in control really logical when she was 00:13:20.899 --> 00:13:24.539 like podcasting yeah and then when she was taking 00:13:24.539 --> 00:13:27.000 care of her mom or interacting with any of that 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.519 she seemed to be like very like fawn like and 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.159 well she was much more vulnerable well yeah i 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.080 know but i found that interesting i'm not saying 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.419 it's bad i'm saying i found it interesting Yeah, 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.159 because she really didn't give a fuck about those 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:42.240 emails. No. She was getting like really angry 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.179 about it. Yeah, it was hard to tell whether it 00:13:45.179 --> 00:13:48.379 was some sort of like supernatural infatuation 00:13:48.379 --> 00:13:53.399 with it or curiosity or just like she was just 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.960 really content -brained and wanted the content. 00:13:56.139 --> 00:14:00.039 Like I couldn't figure out between those. Somewhere 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.360 lies in the middle, I guess. It is funny because 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:06.200 I see that a lot on Reddit. Like people... We're 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.700 like, can people recommend me a horror podcast? 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:10.559 And what they want is somebody telling creepy 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:14.360 stories. Everybody loves the creepy stories podcast. 00:14:14.899 --> 00:14:18.539 But I mean, that's kind of just humans down to 00:14:18.539 --> 00:14:22.200 probably a molecular level of arts is just sitting 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.440 around telling stories. Can you imagine someone 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.419 watching this movie like 50 years ago? Do you 00:14:28.419 --> 00:14:31.019 think they'd be able to follow along? No, I think 00:14:31.019 --> 00:14:35.860 a lot of the. would be very confusing there's 00:14:35.860 --> 00:14:38.580 a lot happening yeah they'd probably be like 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:41.159 what the fuck is an email so and why is she talking 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:49.840 to that bright light um microwave trying to think 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:51.480 like what would that what would you even think 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:57.279 it is i did think it was really effective like 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.860 all the shot framing and this was really cool 00:14:59.860 --> 00:15:03.299 i liked how You were constantly seeing separate 00:15:03.299 --> 00:15:05.679 rooms in the house at the same time. Yeah. So 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.639 you just kind of hyper focus on the shadows after 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:11.700 a minute. Like, wait, why is this all in frame 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:15.580 here? Yeah. Why is the void the center of the 00:15:15.580 --> 00:15:18.019 frame? Yeah. No, I like that, too. And there 00:15:18.019 --> 00:15:20.419 was a lot of Dutch angle work, too, where you 00:15:20.419 --> 00:15:22.820 just I think where the story started to kind 00:15:22.820 --> 00:15:25.059 of break. And then that's when you're introduced 00:15:25.059 --> 00:15:27.320 to more uncomfortable feeling throughout the 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:29.659 house and everything. Yeah, I think that was 00:15:29.659 --> 00:15:32.480 the thing, though, is I think a lot of time it 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.259 felt like they were doing a really good job making 00:15:35.259 --> 00:15:38.960 you super anxious and like really paying attention 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.320 to especially because they would also have the 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.600 loud noises where she'd turn her head. So you'd 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.879 wonder, like, is that in her house or in the 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:51.080 recording? I think I was waiting for that to 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.720 actually lead up to something. And it didn't 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.240 really get there until like the very end of the 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.929 movie. Yeah, I think even that moment you're 00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:02.149 talking about where she's like, I think they're 00:16:02.149 --> 00:16:03.789 in the middle of recording and then she's hearing 00:16:03.789 --> 00:16:05.730 the noises and it sounds like it's in her house, 00:16:05.750 --> 00:16:09.269 but you're not sure. Yeah, like that. Sucks. 00:16:11.090 --> 00:16:14.129 It's like especially I'm usually home all day 00:16:14.129 --> 00:16:16.909 working and like if I'm listening to something 00:16:16.909 --> 00:16:19.370 or whatever and I hear I can't tell where it 00:16:19.370 --> 00:16:22.289 is, that sucks. Don't like that. So I can. It's 00:16:22.289 --> 00:16:25.350 very real for you. That's funny. I don't know. 00:16:25.370 --> 00:16:28.250 It's like. it's weird it's like when i saw the 00:16:28.250 --> 00:16:31.789 movie i felt like i was pretty unsatisfied reflecting 00:16:31.789 --> 00:16:34.830 back on it i don't know maybe i was like i was 00:16:34.830 --> 00:16:37.649 waiting for something big to happen and when 00:16:37.649 --> 00:16:40.230 it didn't happen it kind of felt like a letdown 00:16:40.230 --> 00:16:43.070 but maybe i could just live in the vibes maybe 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:45.549 i'd enjoy it more like the second time it was 00:16:45.549 --> 00:16:48.269 pretty easy for me to kind of just like fall 00:16:48.269 --> 00:16:51.210 into wherever the movie was going well i could 00:16:51.210 --> 00:16:54.409 tell you were into it well i the thing is is 00:16:54.409 --> 00:16:56.840 i I feel like I have a weird relationship with 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.860 this movie because I really enjoyed the theater 00:16:59.860 --> 00:17:03.019 experience. And I liked that something was able 00:17:03.019 --> 00:17:06.180 to like actually scare me in like a fun way. 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.220 Because, you know, I feel like lately a lot of 00:17:09.220 --> 00:17:11.339 horror movies have been in an existential dread 00:17:11.339 --> 00:17:16.440 kind of scary way. So that was kind of cool to 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:22.599 be just like regular scared. But the story was 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.240 just like kind of not. for me i guess i don't 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.359 know it yeah it almost felt like i was like okay 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:31.140 let's get through this and come back yeah i think 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:33.380 there are like three and a half characters in 00:17:33.380 --> 00:17:35.920 this you know there's like her mom there's her 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.980 there's her friend and then there's the doctor 00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:41.200 who calls at three in the morning well her boyfriend 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.859 and oh yeah there was a lady who the nurse home 00:17:44.859 --> 00:17:47.299 nurse but you don't see her i did like how they 00:17:47.299 --> 00:17:51.319 focused the movie purely on her perspective yeah 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.349 it makes you feel very trapped in that house 00:17:54.349 --> 00:17:56.970 it's very like claustrophobic but i can totally 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.910 understand why this wouldn't get that kind of 00:17:59.910 --> 00:18:02.589 mainstream appeal because i think like something 00:18:02.589 --> 00:18:05.529 like this you got to have the big jump scare 00:18:05.529 --> 00:18:09.309 to really get people i guess yeah i don't i don't 00:18:09.309 --> 00:18:11.529 know what it needs it doesn't need that it was 00:18:11.529 --> 00:18:14.009 making me honestly think about um recently i 00:18:14.009 --> 00:18:17.170 was thinking about caveat since his new movie's 00:18:17.170 --> 00:18:20.289 coming out hokum soon that's a movie that like 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.720 It has a really big payoff without a jump scare. 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.740 Yeah. You remember how that movie ends? That 00:18:27.740 --> 00:18:30.839 scared the absolute fuck out of me. So I think 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:32.779 there's ways to do it. I just don't think that 00:18:32.779 --> 00:18:36.259 like this movie really figured that part out 00:18:36.259 --> 00:18:40.119 at the end, you know? Yeah. The ending was kind 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.460 of underwhelming, especially since I was so scared. 00:18:44.660 --> 00:18:48.059 Like it had me like it really had me. But then 00:18:48.059 --> 00:18:51.420 the ending was kind of like, oh, OK. Even for 00:18:51.420 --> 00:18:55.779 someone who was like folded into my chair. So 00:18:55.779 --> 00:18:59.980 we do agree on that. Yeah. I just feel like I 00:18:59.980 --> 00:19:02.539 agree with you. It didn't really deliver, unfortunately. 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:05.220 Well, that's I guess the other thing to talk 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:08.720 about is the audio itself. We haven't really 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.160 talked about that specifically yet. Yeah. How 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.539 do we make the podcast sound like that? I was 00:19:13.539 --> 00:19:15.279 listening to that and I was like, oh, that's 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:22.369 really creamy. I don't think I want to sound 00:19:22.369 --> 00:19:30.369 any creamier. I wasn't referring to that, but 00:19:30.369 --> 00:19:34.369 okay. I meant, it's like we said before, it plays 00:19:34.369 --> 00:19:37.349 a lot with like, you can't figure out if the 00:19:37.349 --> 00:19:40.670 sound is in her room or in the headphones. It 00:19:40.670 --> 00:19:43.190 kind of like makes you almost hypersensitive 00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:46.569 to all the sounds. So every little thing feels 00:19:46.569 --> 00:19:48.950 like it could be a fucking jump scare. Yeah. 00:19:48.990 --> 00:19:50.690 Well, I mean, you're listening to a recording, 00:19:50.750 --> 00:19:54.269 so it's like hard to tell what's happening. And 00:19:54.269 --> 00:19:55.890 that's the funny thing. I think the recordings 00:19:55.890 --> 00:19:59.509 themselves are like creepy enough. It's not like 00:19:59.509 --> 00:20:02.029 on the level of, you know, sinister or something 00:20:02.029 --> 00:20:03.509 that's going to really fuck you up with those 00:20:03.509 --> 00:20:06.150 little clips. It does a good enough job. It's 00:20:06.150 --> 00:20:11.859 really like the audio in her house. and um and 00:20:11.859 --> 00:20:14.059 i guess at the end that's the big scene because 00:20:14.059 --> 00:20:16.400 it's just so much fucking sound like so much 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.319 stuff going on lights going out and everything 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:23.440 um i didn't understand the lady on the screen 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.819 because wasn't that like a separate video so 00:20:25.819 --> 00:20:28.980 she got another demon in there i don't know like 00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:31.480 i don't know i can't i thought that the video 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.279 was a separate thing i didn't know it was part 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:38.240 of the story i have no idea I was also curious 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:41.039 if it was like AI. Does it look like AI? I was 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.660 going to say like that kind of took me out of 00:20:43.660 --> 00:20:45.319 it because it almost looked like, I don't know 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:50.380 if it was AI art. I can't find any confirmation. 00:20:50.660 --> 00:20:53.019 I did look into it. It just looked weird. It 00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:55.579 just looked odd, but I think it might be just 00:20:55.579 --> 00:20:57.859 because of the way they photoshopped it. It fell 00:20:57.859 --> 00:21:01.299 out of place. Yeah, it did. It was like, why 00:21:01.299 --> 00:21:04.200 did you just not use like a scary woman photo 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.119 that you just took? Like, that's always like 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.099 the thing. It's like, why don't you just take 00:21:09.099 --> 00:21:12.559 the photo? Stuff with her mom was creepy. Yeah. 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:14.640 When you could see her kind of out of focus. 00:21:14.900 --> 00:21:16.900 That was probably the creepiest thing. Yeah. 00:21:17.259 --> 00:21:21.720 It will. I was really creepy when she was like 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:24.619 on the phone or something. And then like her 00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:27.359 mom started like. She woke up and started looking 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.579 at her and that was like really scary. I don't 00:21:30.579 --> 00:21:32.579 remember. You don't remember that? She was like 00:21:32.579 --> 00:21:34.839 on the phone and she's like facing the camera, 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.000 I think, on the phone. And then behind her, you 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.779 see the mom like wake up slowly and look at like 00:21:40.779 --> 00:21:43.960 get up. And then she puts the phone down and 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:45.839 then she goes back down and goes to sleep. Oh 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.220 shit, I don't remember. That's fucking creepy. 00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:50.380 That was scary. That's real scary. What the hell? 00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.339 Was that like the scariest part, you think? Probably 00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:55.910 one of them, yeah. I think overall, just the 00:21:55.910 --> 00:21:57.970 build up to the end was probably the scariest. 00:21:58.250 --> 00:22:00.490 I don't know what it was. I had like visceral 00:22:00.490 --> 00:22:03.309 reaction. Assaulted by sound. Yeah, it was just 00:22:03.309 --> 00:22:05.509 like it was so uncomfortable. Yeah, you don't 00:22:05.509 --> 00:22:08.309 say. The person who wears the AirPods. Yeah, 00:22:08.390 --> 00:22:14.130 I could see that. You burp right into the mic. 00:22:14.910 --> 00:22:17.730 It's like you go like. I tried to turn to the 00:22:17.730 --> 00:22:31.500 side. It's just so funny. It's a fun experience. 00:22:31.700 --> 00:22:35.259 And I am definitely interested in the next paranormal 00:22:35.259 --> 00:22:37.960 activity. See what he does with this. 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Okay. 00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:25.680 I put it above him and below good boy. Yep, that 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.480 sounds good to me. I feel like it's been a while 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.960 since I've really ever objected. It has. It's 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.299 almost surprising when you do. But that puts 00:23:37.299 --> 00:23:40.819 it at number 103 on our list. I think it's just 00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:44.700 because... We are mind -melded. You can contact 00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:47.779 us at podcast .ghostbeast .com. What is your 00:23:47.779 --> 00:23:51.599 favorite Skinnamarink -like? Let me know. Bye. 00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:53.440 Skinnamarink -like movie?