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I've been hearing a lot of like the glory being

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a buzzword, but when I hear it talk about it,

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it feels like they're talking about like pixie

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dust or something. And I'm like, man, the glory

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of God is fire. I went under the water. When

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I came out, I wasn't there anymore. I was in

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the throne room. Wow. All I could see was the

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bottom of the throne. And I could see the glory

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coming off of it on all sides. And it was coming

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towards me. And it was fire. And I felt like

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I'm going to die. It wasn't, I mean, I felt the

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power of the glory and the fire, like I'm going

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to physically die if that thing hits me. God

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promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit

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on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring,

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where we contend for that promised outpouring,

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we equip for that outpouring, so that we may

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engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss.

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And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today.

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This is a good one you're going to really enjoy.

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We have with us Anna Werner, a prophetess seer

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that is being used of God in amazing ways. God

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just does miracles through her ministry. She's

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ministering with angels all the time. And she's

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going to be with us for Convention 2026. You're

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going to enjoy this wonderful discussion that

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we're having about what her expectations are

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and our expectations for convention and about

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ministering in the glory. Get ready for the glory.

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Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so

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glad that you could be with us, and we're really

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looking forward to having you with us at Convention

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2026, May 21st through 24th. If you can possibly

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get there, we'll be in St. Louis at the Hilton

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St. Louis Airport Hotel. It's just so easy to

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get to. You can fly into the St. Louis Airport

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and take a shuttle, or it's right next to the

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Interstate, Interstate 70, so you can just drive

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there if it's more convenient for you to drive.

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And it's going to be a glorious time in the presence

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of the Lord. His presence is just going to be

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overwhelming. We've all been to wonderful conferences

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and conventions before, but there's going to

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be something unprecedented in this one. We don't

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understand what it is. We don't know what it

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is. But we're looking for an outpouring of the

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fire of God and the glory of God like we've never

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had before. So we encourage you to get there

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if you possibly can. and go to our website if

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you haven't already done so. And make sure that

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to click on for events and our convention and

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get all the details about the convention. There's

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a schedule there. We start on Thursday evening

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at 7 p .m. And we go all the way through Sunday

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night so you can go home on Memorial Day. So

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this is going to be a time of outpouring of the

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Holy Spirit. It's Shavuot. It's Pentecost. And

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we're just expecting something unprecedented.

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So bring your family. It's a family event. And

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let's have a glory time and get to know us personally.

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We will be there. And Anna will be there. And

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Pastor Tony will be there. Dean Braxton. Claren

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McQueen. Molly Williams, three o 'clock session

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will be there, Dave and Donna and Wes Brooks.

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It's going to be a glorious time of worship and

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intercession and the outpouring, outpouring of

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fire, outpouring of the Holy Spirit, outpouring,

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outpouring. So get ready right now. We're about

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to interview Anna Werner, and you're really going

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to enjoy this. Well, Anna Werner, it is such

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a delight to have you with us on the Global Outpouring

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Podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm

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so excited to be here with you all today. I'm

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glad it worked out. Yeah, me too. Me too. We've

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had some complications, but God has been good.

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And the complications, he's made it better for

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us to do it now. Oh, for sure. This is a much

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better time. I was a little bit jet lagged before.

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We were going to try to get together a different

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day, and it didn't work out. And this is God.

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This is totally the Lord for it to work today.

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So I'm glad to be here with you guys again and

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connect with you on this. Amen. So we're really

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excited about having you with us at Convention

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2026. ministered with you before. We met you

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at Pastor Tony's conference a year or two ago,

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and that was exciting to at least meet. But now

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we're going to minister together in the presence

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of the Lord. And Pastor Tony said to us, you

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need to have Anna Werner. So we said, yes, sir,

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we will. And so isn't he great? I love him. I

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love Bishop. So, Ana, tell us a little bit about

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your upbringing and, you know, how did you get

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to this place where you are now? Well, to be

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totally honest, I was raised in a Presbyterian

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home. I didn't know Holy Spirit. I wasn't raised,

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you know, I just wasn't raised around that. But

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when I was five years old, I had my first encounter

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with an angel. An angel walked into my bedroom

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and or appeared in my bedroom, I should say.

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And I was playing with my dolls and I didn't

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feel any fear at all, which you would think stranger

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danger for a kid to be like, who are you? But

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I there was no fear in me at all. I just felt

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like, oh, this is a new friend. And he played

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with me for a while. He played with me and then.

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As a kid, I asked him, can I touch your wing?

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And he said, sure. And I did. I grabbed the end

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of his wing tip and my hand didn't go through

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it like vapor. You know, it wasn't like one of

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those mystical experiences. I really felt the

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end of his wing, like the tip of it, the warmth

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of his wing. And then after some time, he said,

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well, I've got to get going now. And I said,

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well, wait, aren't you? aren't you coming back?

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And he said, sure. I'm your guardian angel. I'll

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be with you your whole life. And I said, well,

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what's your name? And he said, Timothy. And then

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just like that, he was gone. I went out of my

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bedroom and I told my mom. She was actually sitting

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out in the living room on her prayer chair. That's

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where she's still to this day. She has a prayer

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chair there. She's the most committed intercessor

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I know. Wonderful. I told her about my angel.

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I look back on this as such an amazing thing

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to tell all parents. Um, honestly, and I've learned

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a lot from my mom in my own with raising my own

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children now is she had wisdom to not just shut

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it down and think, well, she just has an overactive

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imagination or something like that. You know,

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she actually just asked me questions about my

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angel and she quickly realized that there's no

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way I could be making this up because I, the

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way I described my angel wasn't like the angel

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you see on Christmas cards are like the fat babies

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with instruments, you know? Oh, right, right,

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right. To this day, I've never seen an angel

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that looks like that. I'm sure there are them,

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but I've never seen one of those fat baby angels.

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But anyways. I'll bet they're not naked. Yeah,

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I haven't seen one of those. I wouldn't say I'm

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an expert, but I've never seen that. But my mom

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just had wisdom to ask questions. And that was

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kind of the start of starting to see. in the

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spirit realm. And then a lot shut down for me.

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And it, it's not like I was from then on, I was

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seeing it to be honest. And I share that as my

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testimony, because I want to encourage those

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listening that maybe at one time had deep encounters

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and we're seeing, and then maybe are going through

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a dry season now. And it doesn't mean that it's

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completely gone forever because the seer realm

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did come back for me. Now, I did have some encounters,

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dreams and visions, a few, but it was like very

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rare. And then fast forward, I was in my 20s

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and I was a missionary. And I'm fast forwarding

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through many years of my life just for the sake

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of time. But I was a missionary with YOM in Brazil

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and working in the drug trafficking slums there.

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And my spiritual eyes suddenly were opened and

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I began to see angels. And as well, I began to

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see demons. And especially when we were working

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in the streets, I would see what the spirit of

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rage looks like or the spirit of addiction or

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the spirit of lust. Or, you know, I just, I really

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began to see all it. And I didn't have a mentor.

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At the time, it was just me and Holy Spirit.

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And I learned a lot, I would say, in all honesty,

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through the fire. Like through, you got to learn

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this quick. Because sometimes out of my own naiveness,

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I would go into situations. It wasn't the ministry's

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fault. It was me. It was just me walking by myself

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through favela and suddenly being approached

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by guys that have guns. And sometimes those guys

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are like 12 -year -old kids. But kids... in some

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of those favelas, they get them very young, even

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at six years old, being, you know, indoctrined

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into that culture of drugs and drug trafficking

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and everything. And so I found myself in situations

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where I followed an angel out of a favela, and

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it showed me where to go, how to get out, and

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I just followed it. And it was by just childlike

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faith, because at that point, I didn't have an

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alternative. It was like, God, you better help

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me. And then the Lord did start teaching me how

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to pray. So how this worked is I would see an

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angel or sometimes it would just be a white light

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behind someone. It wasn't even like a full angel.

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I would just see the light and I would go, I

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think that's an angel. What would happen if I

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would go walk towards it? Or like, what would

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happen if I touched it? And that childlikeness

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is still with me to this day. I feel like that

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is actually a key to the seer realm is being

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able to be curious about things. Because in the

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curiosity, God would open my spiritual eyes more.

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And so I would go and touch that angel. And then

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suddenly that what was once a light would become

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a full angel and I could see it. And then I started

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to wonder, okay. Now, what type of angel is this?

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Because in the Bible, there's different types

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of angels. You have a messenger angel, and then

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you have Michael, who's like a warrior fighting

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angel. You know, there's different types of angels.

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So I started to ask God, what type of angel is

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this? And then the next question is, why is he

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here? Which is valid to this day. I still do

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that when I'm ministering or if I see an angel.

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Because the thing is, we can... idolize the angel

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and wow, there's an angel. But my next question

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is, no, but what is God doing with the angel?

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Why is he releasing that angel? Because is it

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a healing angel? Is it a scribe angel? Is it

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a deliverance angel? Is it a wartime angel? Is

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it an angel from the throne room? Is it a fire

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angel? Like all these things will lead us to

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understanding like what God is trying to do.

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in that moment. So I just became a student in

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Brazil. And so on the flip side, if I'd see demons

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or demonic entities or whatever behind some of

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the people and I'd go, okay, now what do I do

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with it? It's not enough to know if you're, so

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for example, if you're dealing with this spirit

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of rage that's in front of you, what do you,

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what do you do with that to pray to? shut that

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rage down or cast the rage out, how do you pray?

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And so I would pray and sometimes it would work

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and sometimes it would not. I didn't really do

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anything. Okay, I'm going to try different. God,

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help, help, help, help, help. And through that,

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I just, I don't know, guys, I just learned to

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recognize and then my spirit would recognize

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this is that type of angel or this is this type

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of demonic thing. This is the type of deliverance

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prayer that will work, that will help in this

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situation. So I just kind of became a student

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with the Lord. And that was kind of, I would

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say, where the seer realm really opened. Wow.

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That was a big story for my upbringing. That's

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huge. Yeah. So that has grown into a ministry

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of seeing and ministering out of that seeing

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realm and helping people to come into the seeing

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realm and develop a seer gift. So tell us a little

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more about how you came into that and how the

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Lord has led. I would just share with people

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what are the things that I've learned in my own

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wanting to help other people. experience and

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encounter Jesus. And that really is, to this

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very day, my heart. I think we can over -glorify

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people that may have a platform, if I'd be honest.

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And I can tell you, I've been to heaven and there's

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only one platform. Yes. And it's His. Yes. It's

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Jesus's. And so for me, It's not about the gift.

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I don't want people to hear this and go, okay,

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the seer gift is amazing. It's what I do with

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it is I hope that it will lead people into encounter

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in knowing Jesus more, if that makes sense. And

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so I just started sharing with people things

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that I've learned, tips to unlock the seer realm,

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as well as things that block the seer realm.

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And I've now mentored over 6 ,000 seers internationally.

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And it just keeps going until Jesus tells me

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to pause or stop. I just keep having seer schools

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and I'm mentoring people monthly and love to

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train on it and just come alongside people in

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whatever stage they're at with the seer realm.

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And even if they're like, I don't see anything,

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you know, and I'm like, that's okay. Then, you

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know, the word says. I think it's 1 Corinthians

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14, right, where it says to eagerly desire all

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the spiritual gifts. Pursue love. It says pursue

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love. First things first is we pursue Him and

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pursue love. Then it says eagerly desire all

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the spiritual gifts, especially that we should

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prophesy. And so with that, I just don't know

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what a loving father would say. Well, pursue

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this gift, but you can't have it. That just doesn't

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make sense to me. That's why I tell people, well,

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yeah, even if you're not walking in the seer

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gift right now, it says to pursue it, eagerly

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desire. So why can't it be open to you? So I've

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started just training people in it. But really

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also, my other thing is I love to see God do

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miracles because one miracle can change someone's

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life. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I've seen it.

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I was at a conference. I want to say it was Atlanta,

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Georgia. This is a while ago, but I was on stage

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and an angel came behind me and I felt its presence

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first before I saw it, which I want to share

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with you something. Let me give you a scriptural

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context. Is that okay, guys? You guys really

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didn't tell me where to go, so I'll just go for

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it. But scriptural context for this, if you are...

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Able to flip in your Bible to Revelations. In

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the first chapter, John is having an encounter.

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It says in verse 12 that he turned to see the

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voice that was speaking. So his encounter actually

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didn't start first with seeing. It was him hearing

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and then turning. His ability to respond to his

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first sense, which was actually hearing. And

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then when he turned, it says, then he saw. And

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he began to see one that looks like the Son of

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Man. And he goes on to describe it. And for me,

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this was kind of a similar experience where I

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felt. So I didn't hear, but I felt this angelicness,

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this presence behind me. And I turned over my

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right shoulder and I looked. And I saw this giant

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angel on stage and he happened to be holding

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kidneys. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. And so I said, okay.

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And I didn't bring attention to the angel. I

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just said, who here needs kidneys? And there

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was a woman that was right in front of me. I'll

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never forget this. And she said, well, that's

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actually me. Like I have, I have kidney problems.

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I'm on dialysis, this whole thing. Oh. I said,

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well, that's great because there's kidneys here.

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This angel's got kidneys, so I believe God's

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going to release a creative miracle for you for

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new kidneys. And she looked at me like, I don't

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think so, you know. And then the Lord said, no,

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start with the knees, Anna. And I thought, well,

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that's interesting. So I said, well, actually

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to her, I said, God says that I need to start

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with your knee, but you didn't ask me about that.

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You didn't actually mention your knee to me.

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Why not? And she said, well, I've had it for,

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you know, 20 some years. I've just learned to

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deal with it. It's not really that big of a deal.

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I just deal with pain all the time. But the kidneys

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is really the issue. And I said, no, but if God

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says to start here, then that's the order or

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the rhythm of the miracle and how the miracle

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will work. So I have to go with that first. Is

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that okay with you? She said, sure. Laid hands

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on her knee. I prayed for a creative knee and

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her knee popped. I mean, audibly, you could hear

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it on mic, just like, like that. And this new

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kneecap went in and she felt it and she just

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went, and she jumped up and started, you know,

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she's jumping up and down and she's like, my

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knees healed, my knees healed, my knees healed,

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you know? And I said, okay, now I can pray for

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your kidneys because you have faith for it. And

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she said, yes, I do. And so I said, in Jesus

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name. And I grabbed the kidneys from the angel.

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I said, you know, thank you, Lord. And I just

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said, I pray for her. And I put my hands on her

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back. I pray for her just to release this creative

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miracle, these brand new kidneys in her body.

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And she instantly felt this warmth of the Lord

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go through her back, surge through her body.

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And to this day, and this was like. This story

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is over 10 years old. To this day, this woman

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is still healed. Her kidneys were completely

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healed. And what happened is her whole family

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came to this conference. Some of them, I don't

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even know if they wanted to be there, but they

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were there. But every single one of them was

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a witness to that miracle and came to know Jesus

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in a deeper level. They already knew the Lord,

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but it's like they're all on fire for God now.

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He's real. It was just God, you know? And because

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of that, I think about like that one miracle

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led to like a whole family getting just a new

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revelation of God's love and for them, that one

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miracle. And so it's just Jesus, right? But everything

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should point, everything in this here realm,

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I think should point back to the one. It should

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point to the Lord, not to the person who. might

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see or, you know, lays hands on them. Like, it's

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all about him. It's all about God. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Wow. That's just awesome. That's tremendous.

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You know, as you were speaking about the word

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that Paul gave about desiring the gifts, and

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he really kind of pressed on prophecy, right?

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But if you go back to the book of 1 Samuel, Samuel

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was called a seer. which it spelled out for us

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that prophets were called seers to begin with.

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But again, in the same way, his first experience

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was an experience of hearing. So he heard first

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about, you know, he heard his name. He heard

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his name being called Shmuel, Samuel, which means,

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Samuel, I think, means heard by God or hears

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God or something like that. It's something about

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hearing and God. And so he started out with hearing,

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and then he became a seer as well. So it's the

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same pattern that you were just talking about

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that is, you know, obviously this is the scriptural

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pattern of how it's meant to work. Yeah, it's

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in that scripture. I know what you're talking

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about. It's in 1 Samuel 3. He hears his voice.

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I want to say the Lord's voice calling him three

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times. And then it says, in the scripture, it's

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in verse 10, that it says, then the Lord came

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and stood. And so there's a distinction between

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he hears, he hears, he hears, and then he can

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see. For him to be able to know that the Lord

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stood, he then saw. And so his spiritual, I mean,

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his eyes were open after the seeing. And sometimes

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a different sense, you might actually carry discernment

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in a different sense first. Like often I'm feel

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first overseeing. And that doesn't mean that

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I'm not a seer. It just means that the feeler

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gift in me in the moment is more sensitive and

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that leads to being able to see. There's also

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times where I smell. I can smell when there's

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witchcraft. In the room. I can tell you, I've

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been, we just had this happen in Iceland. I just

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got back from ministry in Iceland and I had my

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team with me there. And at one point, I smelt

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it right away. I smelt witchcraft. And I was

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like, oh, okay, there's witchcraft in the room.

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And so now I'm looking like, okay, now I'm going

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to look and see, is there a witch or is some

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demonic thing just entered the room? Open my

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spiritual eyes, Lord, so that I can see and discern

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what is here. And my assistant went, and she

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said, I smell something. And she said, oh, is

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that witchcraft? I smell, I actually smell. She

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smelled it right at the same time. And I said,

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yeah, that is what you're smelling. And she said,

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that's the first time I've actually smelled it,

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Anna. Like, I've heard you talk about it before,

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but I actually smell it. And she's like, and

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her question was, what are we going to do? And

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I was like, well, I'm going to go hang out in

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the back of the room and see if I can see where

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this is coming from. If there's a witch actually

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here cursing the meeting, and I'm happy to go

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pray for her and stop that. Or, you know, and

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I went to the back of the room. I saw that it

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wasn't a witch. It was like a demonic presence.

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There was this weird demon that was there and

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it was hanging out all around the stereo system.

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And so I just went back in the back of the room

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and prayed in tongues and I prayed and commanded

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it to leave and it left the room. And then within,

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I'm not kidding you, it was like 10 minutes later,

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there was a shift in the worship and we had the

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most. amazing encounter with the glory of God,

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where the kabod glory fell and people just fell

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down. No one touching them, no one laying hands

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on them, but fell at the altar under the presence

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of God. And it was funny because the Lord had

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asked me to speak that night on the kabod glory.

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And I had said, Lord, it would just be great

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if you just did it. That's a better way to teach

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if it would be just like, that would be wonderful

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if you could just do that. And he did. He did.

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So sometimes with the seer, your sense, your

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first thing may not be seen. And that doesn't

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mean that you don't see. You might, like in that

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circumstance, I just smelt that there was witchcraft

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in the atmosphere that needed to be, you know,

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I needed to deal with that. So it didn't. interfere

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with the atmosphere, what God was wanting to

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do. And there's other times where I have felt

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the angelic presence before I've seen it. And

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then there's some times where I just see it.

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And then I go, God, what is that? What type of

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angel? Because I don't act like I know every

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angel. I'm still learning. Can I interject a

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question? We just did a podcast with Tony Kemp.

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Bishop, pastor, just don't call him prophet,

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he says, because they stoned the prophets. Yes,

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he's now going by Bishop, but I've always known

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him as like Brother Tony, but he goes by, he

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doesn't want to be called a prophet or apostle,

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but he says, just call me Bishop. So I said,

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okay. Oh, that's good. Okay. So we did this podcast

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and this is something the Lord released to him

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called the Capacity Code. Powerful. Powerful.

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Cher, can you? Just say the intro like how he

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said that. I wish I could quote him verbatim,

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but it's something along the lines of your life

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isn't stuck because God isn't answering your

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prayers. Your life is stuck because you don't

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have the capacity to receive what it is that

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you're asking for. And, you know, the whole message

00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.349
of the podcast is about recognizing where you

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are and working with the Holy Spirit. to get

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you unstuck and to like go through some steps

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to help you get free and to help you expand your

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capacity. And so in sense of like the seer gift,

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you know, in many of these supernatural gifts

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like the capacity code, he said, God, by his

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mercy, is withholding things because if he gave

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them to you, it could just really mess you up.

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Yeah. Destroy you. He doesn't want you to fail.

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Right. So something, you know, regarding the

00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:54.529
seer gift, and I remember even Michael Van Blyman,

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when we had him for school, when he was kind

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of going outside of his boundaries, what he was

00:28:01.089 --> 00:28:03.490
supposed to. Oh, yeah. And this angel showed

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:06.700
up in front of him and says, stop that. Because

00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:09.099
you're heading into witchcraft, you know, once

00:28:09.099 --> 00:28:12.259
you're trying to do this by yourself. He was

00:28:12.259 --> 00:28:16.039
doing it for pleasure. For pleasure. Yeah. And

00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.759
so as far as receiving, you know, the seer gift,

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like it's just putting yourself in a place where

00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.900
you're ready to receive from God, you know, getting

00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:28.140
everything right in your life. So you will use

00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:30.940
it in a proper sense. Does that kind of make

00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:34.460
sense? Yes, it does make sense. I think that

00:28:34.460 --> 00:28:39.039
there's a heart. posture that's required. Like

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it says, I want to say it's in Matthew 5 where

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it says, blessed are the pure of heart for they

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shall see God. And so heart posture is really

00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:52.420
important. I really do believe that like it starts

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with the intimate place with the Lord where I'm

00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:59.299
not seeking to see things. I'm just seeking to

00:28:59.299 --> 00:29:03.960
know Him. Yeah. Yes. And my heart just longs

00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:09.720
to love Him and be more like him. And I continue

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.319
to deal with my own fleshly things, repenting

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if I need to repent or ask forgiveness if I need

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to ask for forgiveness, keeping myself pure before

00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:23.059
the Lord. But then I would say another massive

00:29:23.059 --> 00:29:27.920
aspect of seeing is risk. Obviously, everything

00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.289
you want to do with the CR anointing, you want

00:29:30.289 --> 00:29:32.029
to make sure it's biblically grounded, right?

00:29:32.130 --> 00:29:34.470
Like what you're experiencing, what you're encountering,

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does it match Jesus that we read in the Bible?

00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:42.309
Or is this your own weird thing? Because new

00:29:42.309 --> 00:29:44.930
age people will say they're transcending and

00:29:44.930 --> 00:29:47.609
going places and getting energy from things,

00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:51.849
but that's not biblical. That is not Jesus. And

00:29:51.849 --> 00:29:54.829
so your encounter, your experience should always,

00:29:54.890 --> 00:29:58.579
you should be able to back up what you've experience,

00:29:59.019 --> 00:30:02.180
does it, this match the nature of Christ in this,

00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:05.700
in the Bible, in the word, we have to be in the

00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:09.000
word, not just experiential. Right. And then

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:13.960
the seer realm, a lot does open up if, when you

00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.579
take risks and step out in faith. And so that

00:30:17.579 --> 00:30:21.920
can't be taught. I mean, I can share it, but

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.390
this it's required on you. Like that's your relationship

00:30:26.390 --> 00:30:28.970
with the Lord. There's things I can teach, but

00:30:28.970 --> 00:30:31.410
it's your relationship with the Lord that is

00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:34.589
between you and him. And so such as there's times

00:30:34.589 --> 00:30:39.009
where the Lord will say, I want you to prophesy

00:30:39.009 --> 00:30:43.710
over this lady. And I'll say, okay, what do you

00:30:43.710 --> 00:30:46.170
say, Lord? And he said, no, that's all you get.

00:30:46.809 --> 00:30:51.289
And I'll say, wow, it would be really wonderful

00:30:51.289 --> 00:30:54.609
if I had the word of the Lord right now. Right

00:30:54.609 --> 00:30:57.950
now. You know, in your own timing, you know,

00:30:57.950 --> 00:30:59.670
and he says, no, that's all you get. Will you

00:30:59.670 --> 00:31:04.910
trust me? And I'm like, okay. So I reached my

00:31:04.910 --> 00:31:07.069
hand out and I said, I just feel like the Lord

00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:12.230
has something for you today. And it is. And then

00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:17.890
he'll, and I'm going, it is. Drum roll. But as,

00:31:18.009 --> 00:31:21.450
as I do that, he fills in the blank and suddenly.

00:31:22.140 --> 00:31:24.960
I'm hearing or seeing words that I didn't see

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:29.079
before. And I'm suddenly seeing keys that unlock

00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.880
something for the woman that's in front of me.

00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.000
And I'll prophesy or share. I see that you've

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.079
walked through this in the past, but that's not

00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.900
who God says you are. This is who he says you

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:43.240
are. And call her up higher, whatever. But you

00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.259
grow as there has to be steps of faith. It's

00:31:47.259 --> 00:31:49.819
your faith walk with God. And then this here

00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:54.960
realm does open up. more in that way. Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.700
That makes perfect sense. Yeah. We've, we've

00:31:57.700 --> 00:32:00.099
experienced things like that where you just have

00:32:00.099 --> 00:32:03.579
to step out and it's as you step out that he

00:32:03.579 --> 00:32:07.019
meets you. Yeah. It's, it's developing that trust,

00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:10.460
that trust realm. It's, it's really what it's

00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:13.319
all about. It's, it's part of the journey. Yeah.

00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.460
Yeah. I remember we had a woman, This is a funny

00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:19.920
story. Talk about weird prophetic word, but we

00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.380
had a lady come to our healing room. So my husband

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:25.720
and I used to be the associate directors of the

00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.339
healing rooms in Lee Summit, Missouri for 10

00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:31.700
years. And there was really four of us that led

00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.680
it. And a woman came through our ministry team,

00:32:34.779 --> 00:32:36.980
you know, for ministry that night to the healing

00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:42.519
rooms. And by all, okay, just being honest, you

00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:44.980
looked at her, she kind of was very reserved.

00:32:46.690 --> 00:32:50.750
conservative, very quiet, very serious. This

00:32:50.750 --> 00:32:53.089
is kind of what she looked like externally. And

00:32:53.089 --> 00:32:57.549
we're going to pray for her. And it's me and

00:32:57.549 --> 00:33:02.769
the team. And I get this picture of this lady

00:33:02.769 --> 00:33:10.000
riding a pool noodle. And I'm like, oh, no. God,

00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.640
anything else? You got any other thing? You know,

00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:16.799
I'm like, this is a stretch, Lord. By all means,

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:19.079
this doesn't look like it fit. This doesn't fit

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.019
the picture. You know, from who's standing in

00:33:21.019 --> 00:33:22.240
front of me, this doesn't look like it fits.

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.420
And the Lord is like, no, Ana, this is what you

00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:30.039
get. And I remember feeling so embarrassed. And

00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.740
I was like, man, I must be failing. I just felt

00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:36.920
all the insecurity. I said to her, I said, you

00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.279
know, I even apologized going into it. I said,

00:33:39.299 --> 00:33:43.079
I'm so sorry, but sometimes the Lord speaks to

00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.579
me in pictures and I see the most interesting

00:33:45.579 --> 00:33:50.859
picture for you. And I'm trying not to, and I'm

00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:52.619
kind of like embarrassed. I'm kind of closing

00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:54.700
my eyes. Like I'm, I'm afraid to like look her

00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:56.960
in the eye as I talk because I just felt so insecure.

00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.380
And the whole team is like, what is she going

00:33:59.380 --> 00:34:03.400
to say? You know? And I said, I see, I see you.

00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:10.320
riding a pool noodle. And then right then, as

00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.719
I said, and the Lord filled in the rest. And

00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.380
I said, I just feel, and I said, you know, if

00:34:17.380 --> 00:34:19.179
this is wrong, just tell me, but I feel like

00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:22.260
something very traumatic happened to you around

00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:27.179
the age of six at a pool. And the joy of your

00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:29.679
life used to be a very joyful, filled person

00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.380
got really sucked out of you because the spirit

00:34:32.380 --> 00:34:35.900
of trauma came on you at that stage. And she

00:34:35.900 --> 00:34:41.380
is like suddenly weeping. Wow. And I was like,

00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:45.179
I mean, I just got chills, really. My hair staring

00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:47.119
up on my little arms. You can't see on camera,

00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:50.039
but it is. But she starts weeping. And I'm like.

00:34:50.380 --> 00:34:52.960
And she's just fold into my arms. I'm hugging

00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.139
her. And I have no idea still what's happening.

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.260
And the team is like, what's happening? And I'm

00:34:58.260 --> 00:35:01.940
like, I don't know. I don't know. She's just

00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:03.760
crying. And I'm like, I don't know. God's doing

00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.940
something good here. I hope. Like, I don't know

00:35:06.940 --> 00:35:10.550
what's going on. I just share this story because

00:35:10.550 --> 00:35:13.570
I encourage any of you who are in healing ministry,

00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:17.010
like we don't always know. I don't want to act

00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:19.090
ever like I have it all together. I have to just

00:35:19.090 --> 00:35:21.889
lean into him and go, I don't know, God, what's

00:35:21.889 --> 00:35:24.630
going on? What do I do? You know, and it's a

00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:28.889
process we learn as we go. But she eventually,

00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:33.590
you know, comes out of the hug and she looks

00:35:33.590 --> 00:35:35.710
at me and the team and she says, you know, when

00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:39.670
I was. around five years old, my brother, my

00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:43.250
older brother almost drowned in the pool and

00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:46.769
they brought him, they resuscitated him and were

00:35:46.769 --> 00:35:50.030
able to bring him back. So he didn't die, but

00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:56.170
I watched him almost die. And that moment so

00:35:56.170 --> 00:35:59.769
traumatized me around pools. And she said, it's

00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:02.809
just like you said, I wasn't joyful anymore.

00:36:03.010 --> 00:36:06.090
I felt scared. I just became really scared of

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.800
anything bad, like catastrophic happening. And

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.760
I kind of have walked my whole life afraid of

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:17.860
bad things happening to good people. And it was

00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:22.559
like, really? I was like happy for her, but kind

00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.639
of shocked at God. I was like, you did that with

00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.820
a pool noodle? I did not see that coming. I did

00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:31.900
not see that coming. I'm like, what? So we ended

00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:35.219
up praying for her and oh my goodness, just.

00:36:35.610 --> 00:36:39.230
We were able to pray and so much trauma left

00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:43.250
in that moment. And I mean, it was beautiful.

00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:47.949
She left, she physically looked different. I

00:36:47.949 --> 00:36:50.929
mean, physically, I know God touched her and

00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:53.909
it was so beautiful. And it was like, just to

00:36:53.909 --> 00:36:57.570
encourage like all of us, sometimes God will

00:36:57.570 --> 00:37:00.420
show you things and you don't, you don't. always

00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:03.579
have all the revelation. But if you step out,

00:37:03.619 --> 00:37:06.659
if you're willing to step out, I feel like God

00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:09.780
catches you. He'll meet you and also be willing

00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:14.360
to say, I could be wrong. And that's okay. That's

00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.079
okay. That's what keeps us humble and in the

00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.019
place where we're leaning into God. And it's

00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:21.880
not in our own strength or our own capabilities.

00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:27.079
It's Him working through us. But that was...

00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:29.519
one of the craziest things I've ever seen. For

00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.780
someone, I'll tell you, I didn't see that outcome.

00:37:32.579 --> 00:37:36.079
Well, isn't that the way Bishop Tony kind of

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.099
operates like that, too? You know, the Lord will

00:37:38.099 --> 00:37:40.900
give him a letter, a number, or what does this

00:37:40.900 --> 00:37:43.679
mean to you? And then it just kind of reveals

00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.880
things as it goes along. I thought, wow, you

00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.380
know, so I guess that's very similar to that.

00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.900
Yeah. Yeah. And the thing that is really important

00:37:53.900 --> 00:37:59.000
to remember is that You go with what you have.

00:37:59.059 --> 00:38:01.820
You don't try and interpret it to the person.

00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:04.880
You just tell them what you see because your

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.820
interpretation is most likely going to be wrong.

00:38:06.900 --> 00:38:08.699
But if you tell them exactly what you see, it

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:12.599
means something to them. Right. And often you

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:16.760
may not even know why you're saying it. Just

00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.780
to be honest, this happened in Iceland. I prayed

00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:25.500
for a woman and at the very end I said, oh, wait.

00:38:25.769 --> 00:38:27.889
There's one other thing. Now, I thought this

00:38:27.889 --> 00:38:30.289
was nothing, right? I didn't think this was a

00:38:30.289 --> 00:38:33.190
big prophetic word. Sometimes the smallest prophetic

00:38:33.190 --> 00:38:36.730
word can be the most impactful. And so I said

00:38:36.730 --> 00:38:39.190
to her, oh, I just heard this from the Lord.

00:38:39.429 --> 00:38:43.409
I felt like I just heard God say, you should

00:38:43.409 --> 00:38:49.170
go eat ice cream. And I was like, sounds fun.

00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:52.329
Let's go. I'm thinking it's nothing. And she

00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:56.909
is like, what? What did he say? And I said, oh,

00:38:56.989 --> 00:39:00.769
I feel like I heard Jesus tell me to remind you,

00:39:00.809 --> 00:39:04.409
you should go eat ice cream. And I'm just smiling.

00:39:04.510 --> 00:39:08.570
And she's like, you have no idea. And I said,

00:39:08.610 --> 00:39:11.730
no, I really don't. Do you like ice cream? She

00:39:11.730 --> 00:39:15.889
said, my ex -husband, that was the thing he used

00:39:15.889 --> 00:39:19.090
to tell her. to never eat ice cream because she

00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:21.349
would get fat. And that's what started her eating

00:39:21.349 --> 00:39:24.969
disorder, like years of an eating disorder. And

00:39:24.969 --> 00:39:28.710
she left that abusive relationship out of it,

00:39:28.769 --> 00:39:31.090
received so much healing. She's not that person

00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:33.690
anymore, not walking like she was before. But

00:39:33.690 --> 00:39:36.210
the fact that God was like, you should go eat

00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:40.010
ice cream meant, I mean, that was the most personal

00:39:40.010 --> 00:39:42.949
word for her, that I thought she just liked ice

00:39:42.949 --> 00:39:44.909
cream. You know, I was like, oh, go eat ice cream.

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.820
Sometimes we don't even realize the things that

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:53.300
we think are simple or out of the box, things

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:57.400
that we see or we hear actually can have such

00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.199
an impact if we would just release it. Just how

00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:03.260
it is, like what you said, Sharon, not try to

00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:08.400
embellish it or try to give another explanation,

00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.480
but just... just let God do it. Just, just what

00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.159
it is. Just release it as it is, you know, and

00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.239
just say, I don't, it'd be okay to say, I don't

00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.159
really know why he says go eat ice cream, but

00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.500
go eat ice cream. And like it, it was a, I didn't

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:24.940
see, that was another one. I didn't see that

00:40:24.940 --> 00:40:27.840
one coming. I thought you must like ice cream.

00:40:28.820 --> 00:40:33.800
I love it. Wow. That is so good. So I'm expecting

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.639
that when you come to the convention, that God

00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.280
is going to, I know he's going to release a word

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.119
from the word, and I'm sure you'll have lots

00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:48.880
more stories to tell of experiences, and I still

00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.199
want to hear some more even now, but I'm just

00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:56.239
thinking about, I'm imagining you, and your imagination

00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:00.639
is part of the seeing gift. Because a lot of

00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.719
people think they don't see anything and they

00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.320
don't realize that they see all kinds of things

00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.500
in their imagination. They see all kinds of things

00:41:07.500 --> 00:41:11.559
in their dream life. Maybe they think they don't

00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.820
have dreams, but they do. But if you tell someone

00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:17.260
to, like, tell me how many doors you have in

00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:19.739
your house. And, you know, a person can close

00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.440
their eyes and walk through the house in their

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.340
imagination and tell you how many doors they

00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:25.579
have. Because who thinks about how many doors

00:41:25.579 --> 00:41:28.750
do you have? But your imagination is. is part

00:41:28.750 --> 00:41:31.829
of your seeing gift. But that's just an aside.

00:41:31.989 --> 00:41:36.349
But I'm imagining that there's going to be a

00:41:36.349 --> 00:41:40.610
real outpouring in this convention of the seeing

00:41:40.610 --> 00:41:43.760
gift. He's going to bring that into the atmosphere

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.820
and that people are going to start seeing where

00:41:46.820 --> 00:41:48.699
they haven't seen. Because one of the things

00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:51.239
that Pastor Tony said when we interviewed him

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.480
was that there's something about being in the

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.840
atmosphere. There's this synergy that's there

00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.460
when you're there together. And the atmosphere

00:41:59.460 --> 00:42:04.119
helps you to have clarity. So I'm expecting that

00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.559
there are going to be people that have never

00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.000
seen before. in the way that you're describing,

00:42:10.260 --> 00:42:13.179
that are going to have this thing activated in

00:42:13.179 --> 00:42:14.800
their lives. You see that all the time, don't

00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:19.280
you? Yes. We were at Joan Hunter's ministry.

00:42:19.420 --> 00:42:22.659
I think Tony was there actually with me. And

00:42:22.659 --> 00:42:26.500
basically, this is what happened. An angel walked

00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:29.300
into the room and was standing in the very front

00:42:29.300 --> 00:42:33.119
row to the right -hand side, I remember. And

00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:38.179
I said, I just asked, okay, who here felt a shift?

00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.820
in the room when she started playing that song

00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:44.739
it was at a certain point and a bunch of people

00:42:44.739 --> 00:42:47.079
raised her hand and i said awesome that's awesome

00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:51.719
who here smells something a different smell when

00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.900
she started playing that song and then a bunch

00:42:53.900 --> 00:42:56.059
of people were like yeah yeah i smelled this

00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:59.059
heavenly thing and then i said okay now right

00:42:59.059 --> 00:43:01.840
here in the front row who here is feeling fire

00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.059
all over their body And there was like three

00:43:04.059 --> 00:43:06.300
people. And then I said, now who here actually

00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:09.099
sees exactly where the angel is? And a bunch,

00:43:09.139 --> 00:43:11.099
there was a few, there was maybe two people that

00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:15.480
pointed right where the angel was. And so everyone

00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.360
was experiencing this move of something happening

00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.860
in the room and all experienced at the same time,

00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.719
but through a different sense. But we're all

00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.219
in that atmosphere. And it was, and then it was

00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:34.409
a healing angel. Of course, it was at Joan Hunter's

00:43:34.409 --> 00:43:37.010
ministry, which she's known for healing. So it

00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:41.170
was a healing angel, and the healing mantle had

00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:43.690
fallen. And so we're in the atmosphere then where

00:43:43.690 --> 00:43:47.429
miracles are easy. It was like miracles are easy.

00:43:47.570 --> 00:43:51.170
And Tony was there. He saw the angel. And there's

00:43:51.170 --> 00:43:53.449
times where me and Tony have, because we've ministered

00:43:53.449 --> 00:43:57.050
so many times together, where I'll say, and I'll

00:43:57.050 --> 00:43:59.300
point, and he's like. he'll say, go girl, go

00:43:59.300 --> 00:44:01.579
girl. Like, you know, cause it's like, he's like,

00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.579
go. Cause he knows I can see the angel exactly

00:44:04.579 --> 00:44:07.659
where it is. And cause he's seeing it too. And

00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:10.139
then we'll either he's up on stage and I'm in

00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:12.920
the crowd, you know, praying for people or that

00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.059
sort of thing. So I can't wait. I mean, just

00:44:16.059 --> 00:44:20.500
think about Tony, Bishop Tony has been to heaven.

00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.880
I've experienced heaven. Dean's been to heaven.

00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.739
Dean Braxton's been to heaven. So I'm expectant

00:44:25.739 --> 00:44:29.730
for a heavenly. visitation or encounter and who

00:44:29.730 --> 00:44:31.929
knows what that would look like we might all

00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:35.409
be laid out on the stage Sharon so all of us

00:44:35.409 --> 00:44:39.389
could be on the stage under the weightiness of

00:44:39.389 --> 00:44:43.349
God and and that's what we do for hours and that's

00:44:43.349 --> 00:44:47.010
okay that's that's what we should do yes um all

00:44:47.010 --> 00:44:49.670
too often we like want to rush past it and go

00:44:49.670 --> 00:44:52.650
okay well this doesn't fit our program but we

00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:56.679
have to wait on the Lord, shift where we need

00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.940
to shift, you know? Yes. I'm very excited. We'll

00:44:59.940 --> 00:45:03.400
see what God does. Yeah. I'm very expectant,

00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.099
especially given the fact that this is Shavuot.

00:45:07.099 --> 00:45:10.219
This is a Moed. This is an appointment with God.

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.760
And we've been saying to people, you have an

00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.380
appointment with God at this convention. There's

00:45:15.380 --> 00:45:18.579
something is going to be unprecedented. And we've,

00:45:18.579 --> 00:45:21.960
you know, we've had outpouring after outpouring

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.679
after outpouring in every convention. Every convention

00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.800
has that atmosphere. Every convention, people

00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.500
come and they get the download from the Lord

00:45:31.500 --> 00:45:34.159
for their next year, you know, get their marching

00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.159
orders or whatever. And some get a healing and

00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.659
some get this and some get that. But everybody's

00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:45.079
getting something. I'm expecting something unprecedented

00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.980
this time, something in the glory, like you've

00:45:47.980 --> 00:45:50.360
been talking about the glory. Tell us a little

00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.039
bit more about your experience in the glory.

00:45:52.619 --> 00:45:58.760
Oh, my. It's hard to not probably tear up. That's

00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:05.579
okay. The glory of God is alive, and it's real,

00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.219
and it's not. Forgive me, but I've been hearing

00:46:10.219 --> 00:46:13.400
a lot of buzzword, like the glory being a buzzword

00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.239
in a lot of different Christian circles. But

00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:19.960
when I hear it talk about it, it feels like they're

00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.079
talking about like pixie dust or something. And

00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.900
I'm like, man, the glory of God is fire. I was

00:46:26.900 --> 00:46:30.059
with Sid Roth about, was it six years ago? I

00:46:30.059 --> 00:46:34.110
want to say leading a tour in Israel. I'd never

00:46:34.110 --> 00:46:36.769
been to Israel, so I don't know why he put me

00:46:36.769 --> 00:46:41.489
as a leader on it. But there was about, I want

00:46:41.489 --> 00:46:44.289
to say there was a group of us, there was maybe

00:46:44.289 --> 00:46:46.989
eight leaders, but we each had a bus of people,

00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:49.969
like 40 people that we were in charge of to just

00:46:49.969 --> 00:46:52.010
kind of, not in charge of, but just kind of pastor

00:46:52.010 --> 00:46:54.469
over those 40 people. Make sure we got all our

00:46:54.469 --> 00:46:58.369
people as we moved from site to site. And we

00:46:58.369 --> 00:47:03.019
were baptizing people. Todd Smith was there from

00:47:03.019 --> 00:47:05.300
Georgia. He's a pastor out in Georgia who's seen

00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:07.940
revival for endless revival. It just hasn't stopped.

00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:12.519
And he led us to baptize all the people on the

00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:16.699
tour, plus other people joined in from, I don't

00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:19.099
even know, just people that were tourists decided

00:47:19.099 --> 00:47:21.840
they wanted to get this. But I mean, it was.

00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.079
A lot of people, like 400 people in the sun.

00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:30.000
It was a long time in that water. And I've never

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.380
experienced a baptism like that. People would

00:47:32.380 --> 00:47:37.800
go under the water and either come flying out

00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.739
with demons coming off of them because the water

00:47:40.739 --> 00:47:46.579
was on fire. Like the Holy Spirit was so on that

00:47:46.579 --> 00:47:49.420
experience. So they would go under the water

00:47:49.420 --> 00:47:53.679
and either... come out with demons coming flying

00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.599
off of them. We actually had someone physically,

00:47:56.940 --> 00:48:00.099
I've never seen anyone physically look like a

00:48:00.099 --> 00:48:03.599
dolphin, but this grown man, his body was like,

00:48:03.619 --> 00:48:07.139
like he jumped and he jumped over the border

00:48:07.139 --> 00:48:10.780
into the Jordan. And we actually had to drag

00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:15.239
his body across before the IDF soldiers came.

00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:19.429
Oh my goodness. We didn't have control. It was

00:48:19.429 --> 00:48:22.710
like, God, you're in charge. So that happened.

00:48:22.750 --> 00:48:26.590
Or people came out of that baptism and were immediately

00:48:26.590 --> 00:48:30.030
seeing Jesus, encountering in heaven. And so

00:48:30.030 --> 00:48:32.730
they would float those people over to me. And

00:48:32.730 --> 00:48:36.210
I had all the heads lined up on my lap of these

00:48:36.210 --> 00:48:39.789
floaters. And I'm just like laying hands or if

00:48:39.789 --> 00:48:42.250
they needed a lot of deliverance, they'd also

00:48:42.250 --> 00:48:44.630
send those people, float them over to Ana, she'll

00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:48.090
cast out them. So, and I would just sit there

00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:50.030
and I had all these people, you know, and people

00:48:50.030 --> 00:48:53.489
are just, I mean, just encountering God. It was,

00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:57.269
it was sovereign. And then they said, okay, you

00:48:57.269 --> 00:48:59.289
know, everyone got on the bus and they said,

00:48:59.369 --> 00:49:02.230
now the leaders, like we've been baptized, but

00:49:02.230 --> 00:49:04.929
you guys should, we should get baptized too.

00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:09.099
You know, and you might wonder why, you know,

00:49:09.099 --> 00:49:12.159
yes, I've been baptized before, but why not?

00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.940
Absolutely. If God's in it, I'm like, I'll run

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:21.400
for it. So I went under the water. Here's where

00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.880
I'm going with this. I went under the water.

00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.099
When I came out, I wasn't there anymore. I was

00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:30.920
in the throne room. Wow. And all I could see.

00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.980
was the bottom of the throne and I could see

00:49:33.980 --> 00:49:36.619
the glory coming off of it on all sides. And

00:49:36.619 --> 00:49:40.699
it was coming towards me. And I had this out

00:49:40.699 --> 00:49:43.079
of body experience because I kept screaming,

00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:47.860
holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. And

00:49:47.860 --> 00:49:51.219
I could hear my own voice yelling that, but yet

00:49:51.219 --> 00:49:54.099
I didn't know I was still in the Jordan. Like

00:49:54.099 --> 00:49:56.480
I didn't see that I was in this throne room.

00:49:57.289 --> 00:49:59.710
And this glory was coming towards me and it was

00:49:59.710 --> 00:50:03.230
fire. And I felt fear, like I'm going to die.

00:50:03.710 --> 00:50:08.030
It wasn't, I mean, I felt the power of the glory

00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:10.449
and the fire, like I'm going to physically die

00:50:10.449 --> 00:50:13.510
if that thing hits me. I mean, it's like a fear

00:50:13.510 --> 00:50:16.590
of God. Like really, we have to come back to

00:50:16.590 --> 00:50:18.909
the fear of the Lord in the church. I just have

00:50:18.909 --> 00:50:22.349
to say that on a side note. Yes. The fire then

00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:25.309
went through me. It hit my body, my eyes first,

00:50:25.489 --> 00:50:27.489
which I think is interesting because I'm a seer.

00:50:27.610 --> 00:50:30.690
It hit my eyes first, and then it went through

00:50:30.690 --> 00:50:34.429
my body, and I could feel this fire just burning

00:50:34.429 --> 00:50:37.269
through my entire body. And I was shaking so

00:50:37.269 --> 00:50:41.969
violently. I had Larry Sparks and Dr. Kenan Bridges

00:50:41.969 --> 00:50:45.969
holding me up, my arms for me, because they were

00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:50.190
beside me when I went baptized. I was just, I

00:50:50.190 --> 00:50:55.510
came out of that and I couldn't talk. I had that

00:50:55.510 --> 00:50:59.809
like, woe is me experience. I couldn't talk and

00:50:59.809 --> 00:51:03.070
I couldn't even stand. My legs were jello. And

00:51:03.070 --> 00:51:05.489
then they're like, okay, now you've got to change

00:51:05.489 --> 00:51:08.130
out of all your muddy, murky clothes, you know,

00:51:08.130 --> 00:51:10.570
to get on the bus. And I'm like, I can't even

00:51:10.570 --> 00:51:14.340
walk. This was so humbling, you guys. But I walked

00:51:14.340 --> 00:51:18.119
to the female restroom. And the IDF soldiers

00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.639
had to come down, the female soldiers, and help

00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.599
me change. Because I couldn't even, like, function.

00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.239
I was so shaking. And then they helped me change.

00:51:28.889 --> 00:51:31.869
And then Larry and Keenan, bless their hearts,

00:51:32.010 --> 00:51:34.230
they were waiting for me to help me walk to the

00:51:34.230 --> 00:51:37.650
bus as I was shaking. And then I slid into the

00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:39.730
seat next to Larry. I'll never forget this. And

00:51:39.730 --> 00:51:42.030
he asked me, what did you see? What happened?

00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:50.230
And I looked at him and I went. And all I could

00:51:50.230 --> 00:51:54.510
do was speak in tongues. And that was my experience.

00:51:54.570 --> 00:51:58.940
For four days, I was like that. In and out. heaven

00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:01.920
encounters. And then Sid would just say, Ana,

00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.420
he would put me up at the podium thing. And he's

00:52:05.420 --> 00:52:07.460
like, I want you to just release a message to

00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:10.539
everyone. Just preach a little bit. And I'm not

00:52:10.539 --> 00:52:13.239
kidding you guys. I got up there one time. I

00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.619
couldn't say anything. I just spoke in tongues.

00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.920
The fire of God fell. It was the best preaching

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.420
I've ever done in my life. I'm not kidding you.

00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.460
You can just do that every time. That'd be amazing.

00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:26.650
I just got up there and I was holding on to the

00:52:26.650 --> 00:52:30.750
podium because I was still shaky going. And to

00:52:30.750 --> 00:52:37.250
me, I was preaching to them tongues. That's all

00:52:37.250 --> 00:52:40.750
it was, just tongues. But fire fell. The fire

00:52:40.750 --> 00:52:46.130
that I experienced in the throne room fell. And

00:52:46.130 --> 00:52:50.369
everyone just on the floor. And that was our

00:52:50.369 --> 00:52:54.110
experience in Israel. Multiple times the speakers

00:52:54.110 --> 00:52:56.710
would get up in the fire. You know, if it was

00:52:56.710 --> 00:53:00.929
Diane Nutt or Jenny Weaver or Larry Sparks, these

00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:03.030
are just names. That's not important. But what

00:53:03.030 --> 00:53:08.349
I want you to hear is the glory of God is in

00:53:08.349 --> 00:53:14.199
Exodus 40. It says, the cabal like the weighty

00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.480
glory of god would fill the tabernacle so much

00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:20.619
that moses couldn't even enter like moses this

00:53:20.619 --> 00:53:24.880
is moses who's been up mount sinai he couldn't

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.860
even enter because that was the presence of god

00:53:29.860 --> 00:53:32.500
like that is what the present the presence of

00:53:32.500 --> 00:53:36.260
god when the glory comes it arrests any program

00:53:36.260 --> 00:53:40.780
you have and you You're humbled, you're stopped,

00:53:41.019 --> 00:53:44.360
but you're so filled. It's all that's needed.

00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:47.860
It's really all that's needed. And I've had a

00:53:47.860 --> 00:53:51.039
few experiences, but that was the most life -changing.

00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:56.900
After that, I've learned a lot about ministering

00:53:56.900 --> 00:53:59.139
with fire angels or angels that are straight

00:53:59.139 --> 00:54:03.480
from the throne room show up. And I can kind

00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.019
of recognize that that's what's happening. Wow.

00:54:07.690 --> 00:54:10.610
This is a throne room encounter, but we tend

00:54:10.610 --> 00:54:15.829
to rush past the glory, but we just have to be

00:54:15.829 --> 00:54:19.010
in him, abide in him. The word says to abide

00:54:19.010 --> 00:54:23.730
in him and he in you, and that's the glory. That's

00:54:23.730 --> 00:54:27.610
what it's all about is just being in him. And

00:54:27.610 --> 00:54:31.230
if we're rushing past, I wonder, will we miss

00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:36.010
it? Will we miss? Him in our midst. Sometimes

00:54:36.010 --> 00:54:38.949
I've been in times where there's really strong

00:54:38.949 --> 00:54:41.750
worship. Don't get me wrong. I love strong worship

00:54:41.750 --> 00:54:45.130
and wild worship, but I'll feel Jesus walk towards

00:54:45.130 --> 00:54:50.510
me. And it's like everything in me stops. Right.

00:54:50.630 --> 00:54:55.449
And, and it can be wild all around, but yet he's

00:54:55.449 --> 00:54:58.570
right there. Yes. And I'm like, he's this close.

00:54:59.789 --> 00:55:02.590
Back then they had to go into the tabernacle

00:55:02.590 --> 00:55:07.150
to experience a presence like that. Like the

00:55:07.150 --> 00:55:08.889
cloud would come and they'd be like, okay, it's

00:55:08.889 --> 00:55:10.789
time to go. Or the cloud would move and they'd

00:55:10.789 --> 00:55:13.769
pack up and run after it and go. And then go

00:55:13.769 --> 00:55:15.949
into the tabernacle to experience that presence.

00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:21.469
But we have access all the time. But we rush

00:55:21.469 --> 00:55:24.849
past it so much. We rush past. The Lord is like

00:55:24.849 --> 00:55:28.250
right there. He's right beside you. He's right

00:55:28.250 --> 00:55:31.599
with you. But we're like, oh, but I've got to

00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.320
run to this and this and this. But, you know.

00:55:35.300 --> 00:55:39.099
Wow. Yeah. He's here with us, in us. Anyways,

00:55:39.260 --> 00:55:41.460
I could talk about the glory for hours. So forgive

00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:45.179
me if I'm rambling. No, no, no. We love the glory

00:55:45.179 --> 00:55:52.980
too. Absolutely. And we're much more interested,

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:57.159
much more inclined to just let the Holy Spirit

00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:01.610
have his way. what use is an agenda if it's not

00:56:01.610 --> 00:56:04.650
his? You know, we want him to do everything he

00:56:04.650 --> 00:56:08.449
wants to do and give the agenda to him and, you

00:56:08.449 --> 00:56:11.409
know, okay, Lord, what's your agenda? That's

00:56:11.409 --> 00:56:14.269
all that's important to us. I think, though,

00:56:14.329 --> 00:56:17.690
during this conference, people that, I really

00:56:17.690 --> 00:56:20.750
feel this, I hear this from the Lord, that people

00:56:20.750 --> 00:56:26.710
whose senses were once numb or not able to experience

00:56:26.710 --> 00:56:28.929
the Lord and have just heard about encounters

00:56:28.929 --> 00:56:34.409
but not themselves physically seen or heard about

00:56:34.409 --> 00:56:37.130
miracles but never really experienced, I think

00:56:37.130 --> 00:56:40.150
this is going to be an experiential kind of a

00:56:40.150 --> 00:56:43.670
conference. And I know you guys have this conference

00:56:43.670 --> 00:56:47.289
and you have outpouring every time, but for whatever

00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:49.789
reason, I think there's someone who's going to

00:56:49.789 --> 00:56:53.280
come that has never... maybe seen it, but from

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.000
the point of view of just an outsider looking

00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:59.260
in, but suddenly they're going to be like in

00:56:59.260 --> 00:57:02.960
the laboratory with Holy Spirit and experiencing

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:07.599
God, you know, which I'm excited. I'm really

00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.840
excited for. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to

00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.179
something more, you know, whatever experiences

00:57:14.179 --> 00:57:17.760
we've ever had in the past. I really believe

00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.719
that all of the experiences we have had are going

00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:24.380
to pale in comparison to what God is going to

00:57:24.380 --> 00:57:26.880
pour out at this convention. Because, you know,

00:57:26.900 --> 00:57:29.960
whether you're a brand new newbie and you've

00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:33.280
never experienced anything, you know, I just

00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.280
love watching God throw the newbies in the deep

00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:41.079
end and watch them learn how to swim in the deep

00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:51.059
end right from the get -go. or you're starting

00:57:51.059 --> 00:57:54.260
to see, or at whatever place they are, there's

00:57:54.260 --> 00:57:58.000
going to be something more that we've never experienced

00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:03.000
before. Yeah. We all experience God differently,

00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:07.920
too. True. And so just for, you know, I just

00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.039
think whoever, if you're listening to this now

00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.880
or watching this now, I hope this makes you hungry

00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:19.199
for more, and it's available to you. I want to

00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.039
say that to you. Don't feel like, well, that's

00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.139
just for her or for them, but it's available

00:58:24.139 --> 00:58:31.760
to you. And God is so much. There's so much more

00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.699
we have to learn about him. And anytime we think

00:58:35.699 --> 00:58:38.400
we've got him down, we don't. Yeah, it's true.

00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:42.239
It's true. I know there's more that I have to

00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.519
learn about the Lord. And so we're all in this

00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.440
together. We're all learning. Absolutely. Him,

00:58:49.619 --> 00:58:53.000
you know. Yes. Yes. It's about learning him.

00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:57.159
I like that. I like that. So do you have any

00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:01.599
sense of anything else for our listeners or watchers,

00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:06.619
viewers, that you're feeling from the Lord? I

00:59:06.619 --> 00:59:08.639
do. And this has nothing to do with the convention.

00:59:08.780 --> 00:59:11.179
And I was actually going to ask you if I could

00:59:11.179 --> 00:59:14.719
share. Please do. I was seeing something, actually.

00:59:15.260 --> 00:59:19.199
I saw a creative miracle for someone's hip, and

00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.940
I don't know which side of the hip it was because

00:59:21.940 --> 00:59:24.639
as I was looking, I was seeing both sides highlighted.

00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.159
And so I feel like someone, you're either watching

00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.719
this or you're hearing this when you listen to

00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:33.679
it, that I want to pray for a miracle for you.

00:59:34.420 --> 00:59:37.719
I even hear the Lord say that you've had, I think

00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:41.789
you've had surgery, but God's not a... Like that's

00:59:41.789 --> 00:59:45.170
nothing to God. He can creatively create new.

00:59:45.409 --> 00:59:49.349
I've seen him bring new organs, you know, into

00:59:49.349 --> 00:59:51.789
people's bodies and be completely healed. Even

00:59:51.789 --> 00:59:54.289
if you have metal, I've seen metal melt out of

00:59:54.289 --> 00:59:56.949
people's bodies before. If you have a hip replacement,

00:59:57.210 --> 01:00:00.210
I believe God's going to replace that right now

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with hip that is fully functional, you know,

01:00:02.969 --> 01:00:06.889
and not tight or no more pain with it. So is

01:00:06.889 --> 01:00:09.090
that okay that I pray for that person on here?

01:00:10.409 --> 01:00:12.730
You can go on for another hour with that kind

01:00:12.730 --> 01:00:15.289
of thing. Go ahead. Thank you. So, Father, I

01:00:15.289 --> 01:00:17.929
just thank you right now for the creative miracle

01:00:17.929 --> 01:00:23.250
of brand new hips for someone on here who is

01:00:23.250 --> 01:00:25.929
needing this. You hear my voice now. When you're

01:00:25.929 --> 01:00:29.349
going to hear this, you're going to start experiencing

01:00:29.349 --> 01:00:32.889
warmth down your low back. It'll start in your

01:00:32.889 --> 01:00:36.719
low back first. and then move down your hip region.

01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.480
And so, God, I thank you, Father, for releasing

01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:44.559
mobility back to them. And pain leaves now in

01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:48.539
the name of Jesus. I thank you, God, for a creative

01:00:48.539 --> 01:00:54.019
miracle coming into these hips right now in Jesus'

01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:59.380
name. And someone else, I see the neck being

01:00:59.380 --> 01:01:03.309
highlighted. And so I want to pray for your neck.

01:01:03.389 --> 01:01:09.369
You actually have a wrong curvature in your neck.

01:01:09.449 --> 01:01:12.269
I don't know if it was from an accident or something

01:01:12.269 --> 01:01:14.630
like that, but it's like your neck is very straight

01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:20.510
instead of a natural curve. And what I see is

01:01:20.510 --> 01:01:23.590
the Lord's hand over your neck, just doing this

01:01:23.590 --> 01:01:27.710
and the curvature being restored. And so Father,

01:01:27.789 --> 01:01:30.349
I thank you right now for healing to that neck.

01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.840
All the headaches, tension, headaches, and pain,

01:01:33.980 --> 01:01:37.900
command it to leave right now. It leaves now

01:01:37.900 --> 01:01:41.239
in Jesus' name. And I thank you for a restored

01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:47.179
curvature to that neck. Thank you, Jesus. Now,

01:01:47.179 --> 01:01:51.659
what's fun is I want you to actually move your

01:01:51.659 --> 01:01:55.159
neck right now. because you're going to be like,

01:01:55.260 --> 01:01:58.719
wow, that actually does feel better. Try it out.

01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.119
Also, for whoever, the hip thing, I want you

01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.800
to go ahead and do some squats, do something

01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.860
or twist around and see if you don't feel a difference.

01:02:07.940 --> 01:02:11.239
Because sometimes God heals us and we don't even

01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:15.519
realize it. And let us know too. Yeah, and report

01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.340
back to them. You know, we'd love to give glory

01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:22.059
to God and hear your testimony, but praise God.

01:02:22.219 --> 01:02:24.780
Thank you guys so much for letting me pray for

01:02:24.780 --> 01:02:29.300
someone for that. Amen. We want Jesus to move

01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:31.320
all the time. We never want to get in his way.

01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:38.719
Hallelujah. So you do healing online all the

01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.739
time, right? Tell us a little bit about that

01:02:40.739 --> 01:02:45.559
so people can follow up. It's just that, I mean,

01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:51.159
I have a healing team that I work with that all

01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:54.239
of us just love the Lord and we just love to

01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:57.880
pray for people and prophesy. And so monthly

01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:02.380
we have, we try to do it once a month. And I

01:03:02.380 --> 01:03:04.139
wish I could say, oh, it's every Friday night,

01:03:04.219 --> 01:03:08.000
but it's not. We're all in the season where some

01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.380
of us are raising children. Some of us have really.

01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.059
difficult schedules. So how you find out is go

01:03:14.059 --> 01:03:17.949
to my website, AnnaWarner .org. And you can subscribe

01:03:17.949 --> 01:03:21.090
to just receiving emails from me. And I won't

01:03:21.090 --> 01:03:23.869
bombard you. I hardly email. I need to do it

01:03:23.869 --> 01:03:27.130
more, to be honest. But I'll send you an email

01:03:27.130 --> 01:03:29.769
and let you know when the next one's coming up.

01:03:29.809 --> 01:03:32.550
I can tell you. Now, you might listen to this

01:03:32.550 --> 01:03:35.210
podcast later, but I know that the next one we're

01:03:35.210 --> 01:03:39.389
having is April 27th. But in case you're listening

01:03:39.389 --> 01:03:43.750
to this past April 27th of 2026, you can just

01:03:43.750 --> 01:03:48.420
go to my website and I post. I'll email you when

01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:52.840
it's happening. But we go live with worship because

01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.920
I believe worship shifts the atmosphere and makes

01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:00.039
it easy for miracles. And so we always have worship

01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.360
and then we just pray for people as they come

01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.820
on. And all of the team, we, all of us pray fast

01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:14.840
beforehand and ask the Lord for words of knowledge

01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.559
for that evening. of specific things. And then

01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.920
we'll also pick a few people that as the Lord

01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.239
highlights to prophesy over that are online with

01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:27.980
us live there. And you can actually go back.

01:04:28.019 --> 01:04:30.780
The anointing is still on it for healing. So

01:04:30.780 --> 01:04:33.760
often people will watch it years later and still

01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.940
receive a miracle. And you can go to my YouTube

01:04:36.940 --> 01:04:40.380
page and you can, there's many, many, many times

01:04:40.380 --> 01:04:43.559
we've had healing online. prayer night. So you

01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.800
can just go watch one. I encourage you to do

01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.659
that, actually. But yeah, we love to pray for

01:04:48.659 --> 01:04:51.219
people. It's wonderful. We love to see what God

01:04:51.219 --> 01:04:55.320
does. Beautiful, beautiful. So your name is Anna

01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:59.639
with A -N -A. That's just one N. And Werner is

01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.179
W -E -R -N -E -R. Don't try and spell it like

01:05:03.179 --> 01:05:06.579
Warner. It's Werner, right? Werner. Yeah. And

01:05:06.579 --> 01:05:11.119
it's dot org? Dot org. Okay. So we'll put a link

01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.599
in the show notes to make in the description

01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:17.820
so that everyone can have an opportunity to click

01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:21.300
on that. I will say I do have a seer school coming

01:05:21.300 --> 01:05:24.300
up in May. If people are wanting to get training,

01:05:24.380 --> 01:05:26.840
it'll be four weeks long in -depth training on

01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.400
the seer anointing. So I'm not trying to promote

01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.079
stuff, though. I'm just telling you, I'm just

01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.360
saying it so it's available. And I have a book,

01:05:35.420 --> 01:05:39.300
The Seer's Path, that gives very practical guidelines

01:05:39.300 --> 01:05:42.980
to how to see. It's a book I wrote wishing I

01:05:42.980 --> 01:05:45.619
had that back when I was starting to see in Brazil.

01:05:46.429 --> 01:05:49.590
for some insight. And so I wrote that from that

01:05:49.590 --> 01:05:52.570
place. And so I'm not trying to promo. I just

01:05:52.570 --> 01:05:54.889
want you to know there are resources that I would

01:05:54.889 --> 01:05:57.969
love to get to you in case you're like, I'm hungry

01:05:57.969 --> 01:06:01.210
for this. I want to know more. I want to grow

01:06:01.210 --> 01:06:04.929
in this. I would love to mentor you or to what

01:06:04.929 --> 01:06:08.130
capacity you want. It's, it's there. It's available.

01:06:08.329 --> 01:06:11.559
So yeah. Beautiful. And you'll have a table at

01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:14.760
our convention so people can come to the convention

01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.599
and get all of your resources there as well and

01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.320
sign up for things. And of course, they can sign

01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.500
up online with your schools, right? Is that how

01:06:24.500 --> 01:06:28.539
it works? Yeah. Okay. So would you just pray

01:06:28.539 --> 01:06:31.940
for our listeners and our viewers before we close?

01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:36.500
I would love to. Thank you so much for this opportunity.

01:06:37.019 --> 01:06:39.519
by the way. So glad we could do this. Thank you.

01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.639
Oh, thank you, Father. Lord, we just love you

01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:47.460
so much. And Jesus, I just thank you for that

01:06:47.460 --> 01:06:50.500
we get to walk alongside you and you walk with

01:06:50.500 --> 01:06:54.019
us hand in hand every day. God, I pray that you

01:06:54.019 --> 01:06:57.920
would release a new measure of your presence,

01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:03.199
your spirit. I pray for deeper encounters. And

01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:06.409
Lord, I just... Pray that someone's spiritual

01:07:06.409 --> 01:07:10.409
eyes would be opened today to see more clearly

01:07:10.409 --> 01:07:14.329
as you would instruct them, God. Jesus, I thank

01:07:14.329 --> 01:07:17.530
you for healing to be released through this time

01:07:17.530 --> 01:07:20.710
right now. Even if it's a miracle that I didn't

01:07:20.710 --> 01:07:23.449
mention, he can do it. So, Father, I thank you

01:07:23.449 --> 01:07:28.449
for releasing miracles now, even now. Thank you,

01:07:28.449 --> 01:07:34.380
God, for pain to leave in Jesus' name. I hear

01:07:34.380 --> 01:07:41.760
the Lord saying this, your calendar is not the

01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:46.000
enemy. That sounds so funny, but I hear your

01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.739
calendar is not the enemy. So, God, I thank you

01:07:49.739 --> 01:07:53.199
that you'll expand space, you'll expand time,

01:07:53.300 --> 01:07:56.869
even if it's... I have 10 minutes with you this

01:07:56.869 --> 01:07:59.010
morning, God. We have 10 minutes with you that,

01:07:59.010 --> 01:08:02.110
that 10 minutes will feel like an eternity in

01:08:02.110 --> 01:08:04.809
heaven with you, God. I just pray. And I thank

01:08:04.809 --> 01:08:09.670
you that, I thank you for deep encounters, even

01:08:09.670 --> 01:08:12.230
with a busy, someone's schedule is so busy right

01:08:12.230 --> 01:08:14.869
now. And God, you'll, you'll make time. You'll

01:08:14.869 --> 01:08:18.390
make space. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus name. Amen.

01:08:19.069 --> 01:08:22.250
Hey, man, thank you so much, Ana. This has been

01:08:22.250 --> 01:08:24.810
just absolutely delightful. And we really look

01:08:24.810 --> 01:08:27.289
forward to having you with us in St. Louis, May

01:08:27.289 --> 01:08:32.090
21st through 24th, 2026 at the Hilton Hotel by

01:08:32.090 --> 01:08:34.670
the airport. Hallelujah. Thank you, guys. Hallelujah.

01:08:39.470 --> 01:08:42.829
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