I've been hearing a lot of like the glory being
a buzzword, but when I hear it talk about it,
it feels like they're talking about like pixie
dust or something. And I'm like, man, the glory
of God is fire. I went under the water. When
I came out, I wasn't there anymore. I was in
the throne room. Wow. All I could see was the
bottom of the throne. And I could see the glory
coming off of it on all sides. And it was coming
towards me. And it was fire. And I felt like
I'm going to die. It wasn't, I mean, I felt the
power of the glory and the fire, like I'm going
to physically die if that thing hits me. God
promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit
on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring,
where we contend for that promised outpouring,
we equip for that outpouring, so that we may
engage in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss.
And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today.
This is a good one you're going to really enjoy.
We have with us Anna Werner, a prophetess seer
that is being used of God in amazing ways. God
just does miracles through her ministry. She's
ministering with angels all the time. And she's
going to be with us for Convention 2026. You're
going to enjoy this wonderful discussion that
we're having about what her expectations are
and our expectations for convention and about
ministering in the glory. Get ready for the glory.
Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so
glad that you could be with us, and we're really
looking forward to having you with us at Convention
2026, May 21st through 24th. If you can possibly
get there, we'll be in St. Louis at the Hilton
St. Louis Airport Hotel. It's just so easy to
get to. You can fly into the St. Louis Airport
and take a shuttle, or it's right next to the
Interstate, Interstate 70, so you can just drive
there if it's more convenient for you to drive.
And it's going to be a glorious time in the presence
of the Lord. His presence is just going to be
overwhelming. We've all been to wonderful conferences
and conventions before, but there's going to
be something unprecedented in this one. We don't
understand what it is. We don't know what it
is. But we're looking for an outpouring of the
fire of God and the glory of God like we've never
had before. So we encourage you to get there
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this is going to be a time of outpouring of the
Holy Spirit. It's Shavuot. It's Pentecost. And
we're just expecting something unprecedented.
So bring your family. It's a family event. And
let's have a glory time and get to know us personally.
We will be there. And Anna will be there. And
Pastor Tony will be there. Dean Braxton. Claren
McQueen. Molly Williams, three o 'clock session
will be there, Dave and Donna and Wes Brooks.
It's going to be a glorious time of worship and
intercession and the outpouring, outpouring of
fire, outpouring of the Holy Spirit, outpouring,
outpouring. So get ready right now. We're about
to interview Anna Werner, and you're really going
to enjoy this. Well, Anna Werner, it is such
a delight to have you with us on the Global Outpouring
Podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm
so excited to be here with you all today. I'm
glad it worked out. Yeah, me too. Me too. We've
had some complications, but God has been good.
And the complications, he's made it better for
us to do it now. Oh, for sure. This is a much
better time. I was a little bit jet lagged before.
We were going to try to get together a different
day, and it didn't work out. And this is God.
This is totally the Lord for it to work today.
So I'm glad to be here with you guys again and
connect with you on this. Amen. So we're really
excited about having you with us at Convention
2026. ministered with you before. We met you
at Pastor Tony's conference a year or two ago,
and that was exciting to at least meet. But now
we're going to minister together in the presence
of the Lord. And Pastor Tony said to us, you
need to have Anna Werner. So we said, yes, sir,
we will. And so isn't he great? I love him. I
love Bishop. So, Ana, tell us a little bit about
your upbringing and, you know, how did you get
to this place where you are now? Well, to be
totally honest, I was raised in a Presbyterian
home. I didn't know Holy Spirit. I wasn't raised,
you know, I just wasn't raised around that. But
when I was five years old, I had my first encounter
with an angel. An angel walked into my bedroom
and or appeared in my bedroom, I should say.
And I was playing with my dolls and I didn't
feel any fear at all, which you would think stranger
danger for a kid to be like, who are you? But
I there was no fear in me at all. I just felt
like, oh, this is a new friend. And he played
with me for a while. He played with me and then.
As a kid, I asked him, can I touch your wing?
And he said, sure. And I did. I grabbed the end
of his wing tip and my hand didn't go through
it like vapor. You know, it wasn't like one of
those mystical experiences. I really felt the
end of his wing, like the tip of it, the warmth
of his wing. And then after some time, he said,
well, I've got to get going now. And I said,
well, wait, aren't you? aren't you coming back?
And he said, sure. I'm your guardian angel. I'll
be with you your whole life. And I said, well,
what's your name? And he said, Timothy. And then
just like that, he was gone. I went out of my
bedroom and I told my mom. She was actually sitting
out in the living room on her prayer chair. That's
where she's still to this day. She has a prayer
chair there. She's the most committed intercessor
I know. Wonderful. I told her about my angel.
I look back on this as such an amazing thing
to tell all parents. Um, honestly, and I've learned
a lot from my mom in my own with raising my own
children now is she had wisdom to not just shut
it down and think, well, she just has an overactive
imagination or something like that. You know,
she actually just asked me questions about my
angel and she quickly realized that there's no
way I could be making this up because I, the
way I described my angel wasn't like the angel
you see on Christmas cards are like the fat babies
with instruments, you know? Oh, right, right,
right. To this day, I've never seen an angel
that looks like that. I'm sure there are them,
but I've never seen one of those fat baby angels.
But anyways. I'll bet they're not naked. Yeah,
I haven't seen one of those. I wouldn't say I'm
an expert, but I've never seen that. But my mom
just had wisdom to ask questions. And that was
kind of the start of starting to see. in the
spirit realm. And then a lot shut down for me.
And it, it's not like I was from then on, I was
seeing it to be honest. And I share that as my
testimony, because I want to encourage those
listening that maybe at one time had deep encounters
and we're seeing, and then maybe are going through
a dry season now. And it doesn't mean that it's
completely gone forever because the seer realm
did come back for me. Now, I did have some encounters,
dreams and visions, a few, but it was like very
rare. And then fast forward, I was in my 20s
and I was a missionary. And I'm fast forwarding
through many years of my life just for the sake
of time. But I was a missionary with YOM in Brazil
and working in the drug trafficking slums there.
And my spiritual eyes suddenly were opened and
I began to see angels. And as well, I began to
see demons. And especially when we were working
in the streets, I would see what the spirit of
rage looks like or the spirit of addiction or
the spirit of lust. Or, you know, I just, I really
began to see all it. And I didn't have a mentor.
At the time, it was just me and Holy Spirit.
And I learned a lot, I would say, in all honesty,
through the fire. Like through, you got to learn
this quick. Because sometimes out of my own naiveness,
I would go into situations. It wasn't the ministry's
fault. It was me. It was just me walking by myself
through favela and suddenly being approached
by guys that have guns. And sometimes those guys
are like 12 -year -old kids. But kids... in some
of those favelas, they get them very young, even
at six years old, being, you know, indoctrined
into that culture of drugs and drug trafficking
and everything. And so I found myself in situations
where I followed an angel out of a favela, and
it showed me where to go, how to get out, and
I just followed it. And it was by just childlike
faith, because at that point, I didn't have an
alternative. It was like, God, you better help
me. And then the Lord did start teaching me how
to pray. So how this worked is I would see an
angel or sometimes it would just be a white light
behind someone. It wasn't even like a full angel.
I would just see the light and I would go, I
think that's an angel. What would happen if I
would go walk towards it? Or like, what would
happen if I touched it? And that childlikeness
is still with me to this day. I feel like that
is actually a key to the seer realm is being
able to be curious about things. Because in the
curiosity, God would open my spiritual eyes more.
And so I would go and touch that angel. And then
suddenly that what was once a light would become
a full angel and I could see it. And then I started
to wonder, okay. Now, what type of angel is this?
Because in the Bible, there's different types
of angels. You have a messenger angel, and then
you have Michael, who's like a warrior fighting
angel. You know, there's different types of angels.
So I started to ask God, what type of angel is
this? And then the next question is, why is he
here? Which is valid to this day. I still do
that when I'm ministering or if I see an angel.
Because the thing is, we can... idolize the angel
and wow, there's an angel. But my next question
is, no, but what is God doing with the angel?
Why is he releasing that angel? Because is it
a healing angel? Is it a scribe angel? Is it
a deliverance angel? Is it a wartime angel? Is
it an angel from the throne room? Is it a fire
angel? Like all these things will lead us to
understanding like what God is trying to do.
in that moment. So I just became a student in
Brazil. And so on the flip side, if I'd see demons
or demonic entities or whatever behind some of
the people and I'd go, okay, now what do I do
with it? It's not enough to know if you're, so
for example, if you're dealing with this spirit
of rage that's in front of you, what do you,
what do you do with that to pray to? shut that
rage down or cast the rage out, how do you pray?
And so I would pray and sometimes it would work
and sometimes it would not. I didn't really do
anything. Okay, I'm going to try different. God,
help, help, help, help, help. And through that,
I just, I don't know, guys, I just learned to
recognize and then my spirit would recognize
this is that type of angel or this is this type
of demonic thing. This is the type of deliverance
prayer that will work, that will help in this
situation. So I just kind of became a student
with the Lord. And that was kind of, I would
say, where the seer realm really opened. Wow.
That was a big story for my upbringing. That's
huge. Yeah. So that has grown into a ministry
of seeing and ministering out of that seeing
realm and helping people to come into the seeing
realm and develop a seer gift. So tell us a little
more about how you came into that and how the
Lord has led. I would just share with people
what are the things that I've learned in my own
wanting to help other people. experience and
encounter Jesus. And that really is, to this
very day, my heart. I think we can over -glorify
people that may have a platform, if I'd be honest.
And I can tell you, I've been to heaven and there's
only one platform. Yes. And it's His. Yes. It's
Jesus's. And so for me, It's not about the gift.
I don't want people to hear this and go, okay,
the seer gift is amazing. It's what I do with
it is I hope that it will lead people into encounter
in knowing Jesus more, if that makes sense. And
so I just started sharing with people things
that I've learned, tips to unlock the seer realm,
as well as things that block the seer realm.
And I've now mentored over 6 ,000 seers internationally.
And it just keeps going until Jesus tells me
to pause or stop. I just keep having seer schools
and I'm mentoring people monthly and love to
train on it and just come alongside people in
whatever stage they're at with the seer realm.
And even if they're like, I don't see anything,
you know, and I'm like, that's okay. Then, you
know, the word says. I think it's 1 Corinthians
14, right, where it says to eagerly desire all
the spiritual gifts. Pursue love. It says pursue
love. First things first is we pursue Him and
pursue love. Then it says eagerly desire all
the spiritual gifts, especially that we should
prophesy. And so with that, I just don't know
what a loving father would say. Well, pursue
this gift, but you can't have it. That just doesn't
make sense to me. That's why I tell people, well,
yeah, even if you're not walking in the seer
gift right now, it says to pursue it, eagerly
desire. So why can't it be open to you? So I've
started just training people in it. But really
also, my other thing is I love to see God do
miracles because one miracle can change someone's
life. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I've seen it.
I was at a conference. I want to say it was Atlanta,
Georgia. This is a while ago, but I was on stage
and an angel came behind me and I felt its presence
first before I saw it, which I want to share
with you something. Let me give you a scriptural
context. Is that okay, guys? You guys really
didn't tell me where to go, so I'll just go for
it. But scriptural context for this, if you are...
Able to flip in your Bible to Revelations. In
the first chapter, John is having an encounter.
It says in verse 12 that he turned to see the
voice that was speaking. So his encounter actually
didn't start first with seeing. It was him hearing
and then turning. His ability to respond to his
first sense, which was actually hearing. And
then when he turned, it says, then he saw. And
he began to see one that looks like the Son of
Man. And he goes on to describe it. And for me,
this was kind of a similar experience where I
felt. So I didn't hear, but I felt this angelicness,
this presence behind me. And I turned over my
right shoulder and I looked. And I saw this giant
angel on stage and he happened to be holding
kidneys. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. And so I said, okay.
And I didn't bring attention to the angel. I
just said, who here needs kidneys? And there
was a woman that was right in front of me. I'll
never forget this. And she said, well, that's
actually me. Like I have, I have kidney problems.
I'm on dialysis, this whole thing. Oh. I said,
well, that's great because there's kidneys here.
This angel's got kidneys, so I believe God's
going to release a creative miracle for you for
new kidneys. And she looked at me like, I don't
think so, you know. And then the Lord said, no,
start with the knees, Anna. And I thought, well,
that's interesting. So I said, well, actually
to her, I said, God says that I need to start
with your knee, but you didn't ask me about that.
You didn't actually mention your knee to me.
Why not? And she said, well, I've had it for,
you know, 20 some years. I've just learned to
deal with it. It's not really that big of a deal.
I just deal with pain all the time. But the kidneys
is really the issue. And I said, no, but if God
says to start here, then that's the order or
the rhythm of the miracle and how the miracle
will work. So I have to go with that first. Is
that okay with you? She said, sure. Laid hands
on her knee. I prayed for a creative knee and
her knee popped. I mean, audibly, you could hear
it on mic, just like, like that. And this new
kneecap went in and she felt it and she just
went, and she jumped up and started, you know,
she's jumping up and down and she's like, my
knees healed, my knees healed, my knees healed,
you know? And I said, okay, now I can pray for
your kidneys because you have faith for it. And
she said, yes, I do. And so I said, in Jesus
name. And I grabbed the kidneys from the angel.
I said, you know, thank you, Lord. And I just
said, I pray for her. And I put my hands on her
back. I pray for her just to release this creative
miracle, these brand new kidneys in her body.
And she instantly felt this warmth of the Lord
go through her back, surge through her body.
And to this day, and this was like. This story
is over 10 years old. To this day, this woman
is still healed. Her kidneys were completely
healed. And what happened is her whole family
came to this conference. Some of them, I don't
even know if they wanted to be there, but they
were there. But every single one of them was
a witness to that miracle and came to know Jesus
in a deeper level. They already knew the Lord,
but it's like they're all on fire for God now.
He's real. It was just God, you know? And because
of that, I think about like that one miracle
led to like a whole family getting just a new
revelation of God's love and for them, that one
miracle. And so it's just Jesus, right? But everything
should point, everything in this here realm,
I think should point back to the one. It should
point to the Lord, not to the person who. might
see or, you know, lays hands on them. Like, it's
all about him. It's all about God. Yeah. Absolutely.
Wow. That's just awesome. That's tremendous.
You know, as you were speaking about the word
that Paul gave about desiring the gifts, and
he really kind of pressed on prophecy, right?
But if you go back to the book of 1 Samuel, Samuel
was called a seer. which it spelled out for us
that prophets were called seers to begin with.
But again, in the same way, his first experience
was an experience of hearing. So he heard first
about, you know, he heard his name. He heard
his name being called Shmuel, Samuel, which means,
Samuel, I think, means heard by God or hears
God or something like that. It's something about
hearing and God. And so he started out with hearing,
and then he became a seer as well. So it's the
same pattern that you were just talking about
that is, you know, obviously this is the scriptural
pattern of how it's meant to work. Yeah, it's
in that scripture. I know what you're talking
about. It's in 1 Samuel 3. He hears his voice.
I want to say the Lord's voice calling him three
times. And then it says, in the scripture, it's
in verse 10, that it says, then the Lord came
and stood. And so there's a distinction between
he hears, he hears, he hears, and then he can
see. For him to be able to know that the Lord
stood, he then saw. And so his spiritual, I mean,
his eyes were open after the seeing. And sometimes
a different sense, you might actually carry discernment
in a different sense first. Like often I'm feel
first overseeing. And that doesn't mean that
I'm not a seer. It just means that the feeler
gift in me in the moment is more sensitive and
that leads to being able to see. There's also
times where I smell. I can smell when there's
witchcraft. In the room. I can tell you, I've
been, we just had this happen in Iceland. I just
got back from ministry in Iceland and I had my
team with me there. And at one point, I smelt
it right away. I smelt witchcraft. And I was
like, oh, okay, there's witchcraft in the room.
And so now I'm looking like, okay, now I'm going
to look and see, is there a witch or is some
demonic thing just entered the room? Open my
spiritual eyes, Lord, so that I can see and discern
what is here. And my assistant went, and she
said, I smell something. And she said, oh, is
that witchcraft? I smell, I actually smell. She
smelled it right at the same time. And I said,
yeah, that is what you're smelling. And she said,
that's the first time I've actually smelled it,
Anna. Like, I've heard you talk about it before,
but I actually smell it. And she's like, and
her question was, what are we going to do? And
I was like, well, I'm going to go hang out in
the back of the room and see if I can see where
this is coming from. If there's a witch actually
here cursing the meeting, and I'm happy to go
pray for her and stop that. Or, you know, and
I went to the back of the room. I saw that it
wasn't a witch. It was like a demonic presence.
There was this weird demon that was there and
it was hanging out all around the stereo system.
And so I just went back in the back of the room
and prayed in tongues and I prayed and commanded
it to leave and it left the room. And then within,
I'm not kidding you, it was like 10 minutes later,
there was a shift in the worship and we had the
most. amazing encounter with the glory of God,
where the kabod glory fell and people just fell
down. No one touching them, no one laying hands
on them, but fell at the altar under the presence
of God. And it was funny because the Lord had
asked me to speak that night on the kabod glory.
And I had said, Lord, it would just be great
if you just did it. That's a better way to teach
if it would be just like, that would be wonderful
if you could just do that. And he did. He did.
So sometimes with the seer, your sense, your
first thing may not be seen. And that doesn't
mean that you don't see. You might, like in that
circumstance, I just smelt that there was witchcraft
in the atmosphere that needed to be, you know,
I needed to deal with that. So it didn't. interfere
with the atmosphere, what God was wanting to
do. And there's other times where I have felt
the angelic presence before I've seen it. And
then there's some times where I just see it.
And then I go, God, what is that? What type of
angel? Because I don't act like I know every
angel. I'm still learning. Can I interject a
question? We just did a podcast with Tony Kemp.
Bishop, pastor, just don't call him prophet,
he says, because they stoned the prophets. Yes,
he's now going by Bishop, but I've always known
him as like Brother Tony, but he goes by, he
doesn't want to be called a prophet or apostle,
but he says, just call me Bishop. So I said,
okay. Oh, that's good. Okay. So we did this podcast
and this is something the Lord released to him
called the Capacity Code. Powerful. Powerful.
Cher, can you? Just say the intro like how he
said that. I wish I could quote him verbatim,
but it's something along the lines of your life
isn't stuck because God isn't answering your
prayers. Your life is stuck because you don't
have the capacity to receive what it is that
you're asking for. And, you know, the whole message
of the podcast is about recognizing where you
are and working with the Holy Spirit. to get
you unstuck and to like go through some steps
to help you get free and to help you expand your
capacity. And so in sense of like the seer gift,
you know, in many of these supernatural gifts
like the capacity code, he said, God, by his
mercy, is withholding things because if he gave
them to you, it could just really mess you up.
Yeah. Destroy you. He doesn't want you to fail.
Right. So something, you know, regarding the
seer gift, and I remember even Michael Van Blyman,
when we had him for school, when he was kind
of going outside of his boundaries, what he was
supposed to. Oh, yeah. And this angel showed
up in front of him and says, stop that. Because
you're heading into witchcraft, you know, once
you're trying to do this by yourself. He was
doing it for pleasure. For pleasure. Yeah. And
so as far as receiving, you know, the seer gift,
like it's just putting yourself in a place where
you're ready to receive from God, you know, getting
everything right in your life. So you will use
it in a proper sense. Does that kind of make
sense? Yes, it does make sense. I think that
there's a heart. posture that's required. Like
it says, I want to say it's in Matthew 5 where
it says, blessed are the pure of heart for they
shall see God. And so heart posture is really
important. I really do believe that like it starts
with the intimate place with the Lord where I'm
not seeking to see things. I'm just seeking to
know Him. Yeah. Yes. And my heart just longs
to love Him and be more like him. And I continue
to deal with my own fleshly things, repenting
if I need to repent or ask forgiveness if I need
to ask for forgiveness, keeping myself pure before
the Lord. But then I would say another massive
aspect of seeing is risk. Obviously, everything
you want to do with the CR anointing, you want
to make sure it's biblically grounded, right?
Like what you're experiencing, what you're encountering,
does it match Jesus that we read in the Bible?
Or is this your own weird thing? Because new
age people will say they're transcending and
going places and getting energy from things,
but that's not biblical. That is not Jesus. And
so your encounter, your experience should always,
you should be able to back up what you've experience,
does it, this match the nature of Christ in this,
in the Bible, in the word, we have to be in the
word, not just experiential. Right. And then
the seer realm, a lot does open up if, when you
take risks and step out in faith. And so that
can't be taught. I mean, I can share it, but
this it's required on you. Like that's your relationship
with the Lord. There's things I can teach, but
it's your relationship with the Lord that is
between you and him. And so such as there's times
where the Lord will say, I want you to prophesy
over this lady. And I'll say, okay, what do you
say, Lord? And he said, no, that's all you get.
And I'll say, wow, it would be really wonderful
if I had the word of the Lord right now. Right
now. You know, in your own timing, you know,
and he says, no, that's all you get. Will you
trust me? And I'm like, okay. So I reached my
hand out and I said, I just feel like the Lord
has something for you today. And it is. And then
he'll, and I'm going, it is. Drum roll. But as,
as I do that, he fills in the blank and suddenly.
I'm hearing or seeing words that I didn't see
before. And I'm suddenly seeing keys that unlock
something for the woman that's in front of me.
And I'll prophesy or share. I see that you've
walked through this in the past, but that's not
who God says you are. This is who he says you
are. And call her up higher, whatever. But you
grow as there has to be steps of faith. It's
your faith walk with God. And then this here
realm does open up. more in that way. Yeah. Yeah.
That makes perfect sense. Yeah. We've, we've
experienced things like that where you just have
to step out and it's as you step out that he
meets you. Yeah. It's, it's developing that trust,
that trust realm. It's, it's really what it's
all about. It's, it's part of the journey. Yeah.
Yeah. I remember we had a woman, This is a funny
story. Talk about weird prophetic word, but we
had a lady come to our healing room. So my husband
and I used to be the associate directors of the
healing rooms in Lee Summit, Missouri for 10
years. And there was really four of us that led
it. And a woman came through our ministry team,
you know, for ministry that night to the healing
rooms. And by all, okay, just being honest, you
looked at her, she kind of was very reserved.
conservative, very quiet, very serious. This
is kind of what she looked like externally. And
we're going to pray for her. And it's me and
the team. And I get this picture of this lady
riding a pool noodle. And I'm like, oh, no. God,
anything else? You got any other thing? You know,
I'm like, this is a stretch, Lord. By all means,
this doesn't look like it fit. This doesn't fit
the picture. You know, from who's standing in
front of me, this doesn't look like it fits.
And the Lord is like, no, Ana, this is what you
get. And I remember feeling so embarrassed. And
I was like, man, I must be failing. I just felt
all the insecurity. I said to her, I said, you
know, I even apologized going into it. I said,
I'm so sorry, but sometimes the Lord speaks to
me in pictures and I see the most interesting
picture for you. And I'm trying not to, and I'm
kind of like embarrassed. I'm kind of closing
my eyes. Like I'm, I'm afraid to like look her
in the eye as I talk because I just felt so insecure.
And the whole team is like, what is she going
to say? You know? And I said, I see, I see you.
riding a pool noodle. And then right then, as
I said, and the Lord filled in the rest. And
I said, I just feel, and I said, you know, if
this is wrong, just tell me, but I feel like
something very traumatic happened to you around
the age of six at a pool. And the joy of your
life used to be a very joyful, filled person
got really sucked out of you because the spirit
of trauma came on you at that stage. And she
is like suddenly weeping. Wow. And I was like,
I mean, I just got chills, really. My hair staring
up on my little arms. You can't see on camera,
but it is. But she starts weeping. And I'm like.
And she's just fold into my arms. I'm hugging
her. And I have no idea still what's happening.
And the team is like, what's happening? And I'm
like, I don't know. I don't know. She's just
crying. And I'm like, I don't know. God's doing
something good here. I hope. Like, I don't know
what's going on. I just share this story because
I encourage any of you who are in healing ministry,
like we don't always know. I don't want to act
ever like I have it all together. I have to just
lean into him and go, I don't know, God, what's
going on? What do I do? You know, and it's a
process we learn as we go. But she eventually,
you know, comes out of the hug and she looks
at me and the team and she says, you know, when
I was. around five years old, my brother, my
older brother almost drowned in the pool and
they brought him, they resuscitated him and were
able to bring him back. So he didn't die, but
I watched him almost die. And that moment so
traumatized me around pools. And she said, it's
just like you said, I wasn't joyful anymore.
I felt scared. I just became really scared of
anything bad, like catastrophic happening. And
I kind of have walked my whole life afraid of
bad things happening to good people. And it was
like, really? I was like happy for her, but kind
of shocked at God. I was like, you did that with
a pool noodle? I did not see that coming. I did
not see that coming. I'm like, what? So we ended
up praying for her and oh my goodness, just.
We were able to pray and so much trauma left
in that moment. And I mean, it was beautiful.
She left, she physically looked different. I
mean, physically, I know God touched her and
it was so beautiful. And it was like, just to
encourage like all of us, sometimes God will
show you things and you don't, you don't. always
have all the revelation. But if you step out,
if you're willing to step out, I feel like God
catches you. He'll meet you and also be willing
to say, I could be wrong. And that's okay. That's
okay. That's what keeps us humble and in the
place where we're leaning into God. And it's
not in our own strength or our own capabilities.
It's Him working through us. But that was...
one of the craziest things I've ever seen. For
someone, I'll tell you, I didn't see that outcome.
Well, isn't that the way Bishop Tony kind of
operates like that, too? You know, the Lord will
give him a letter, a number, or what does this
mean to you? And then it just kind of reveals
things as it goes along. I thought, wow, you
know, so I guess that's very similar to that.
Yeah. Yeah. And the thing that is really important
to remember is that You go with what you have.
You don't try and interpret it to the person.
You just tell them what you see because your
interpretation is most likely going to be wrong.
But if you tell them exactly what you see, it
means something to them. Right. And often you
may not even know why you're saying it. Just
to be honest, this happened in Iceland. I prayed
for a woman and at the very end I said, oh, wait.
There's one other thing. Now, I thought this
was nothing, right? I didn't think this was a
big prophetic word. Sometimes the smallest prophetic
word can be the most impactful. And so I said
to her, oh, I just heard this from the Lord.
I felt like I just heard God say, you should
go eat ice cream. And I was like, sounds fun.
Let's go. I'm thinking it's nothing. And she
is like, what? What did he say? And I said, oh,
I feel like I heard Jesus tell me to remind you,
you should go eat ice cream. And I'm just smiling.
And she's like, you have no idea. And I said,
no, I really don't. Do you like ice cream? She
said, my ex -husband, that was the thing he used
to tell her. to never eat ice cream because she
would get fat. And that's what started her eating
disorder, like years of an eating disorder. And
she left that abusive relationship out of it,
received so much healing. She's not that person
anymore, not walking like she was before. But
the fact that God was like, you should go eat
ice cream meant, I mean, that was the most personal
word for her, that I thought she just liked ice
cream. You know, I was like, oh, go eat ice cream.
Sometimes we don't even realize the things that
we think are simple or out of the box, things
that we see or we hear actually can have such
an impact if we would just release it. Just how
it is, like what you said, Sharon, not try to
embellish it or try to give another explanation,
but just... just let God do it. Just, just what
it is. Just release it as it is, you know, and
just say, I don't, it'd be okay to say, I don't
really know why he says go eat ice cream, but
go eat ice cream. And like it, it was a, I didn't
see, that was another one. I didn't see that
one coming. I thought you must like ice cream.
I love it. Wow. That is so good. So I'm expecting
that when you come to the convention, that God
is going to, I know he's going to release a word
from the word, and I'm sure you'll have lots
more stories to tell of experiences, and I still
want to hear some more even now, but I'm just
thinking about, I'm imagining you, and your imagination
is part of the seeing gift. Because a lot of
people think they don't see anything and they
don't realize that they see all kinds of things
in their imagination. They see all kinds of things
in their dream life. Maybe they think they don't
have dreams, but they do. But if you tell someone
to, like, tell me how many doors you have in
your house. And, you know, a person can close
their eyes and walk through the house in their
imagination and tell you how many doors they
have. Because who thinks about how many doors
do you have? But your imagination is. is part
of your seeing gift. But that's just an aside.
But I'm imagining that there's going to be a
real outpouring in this convention of the seeing
gift. He's going to bring that into the atmosphere
and that people are going to start seeing where
they haven't seen. Because one of the things
that Pastor Tony said when we interviewed him
was that there's something about being in the
atmosphere. There's this synergy that's there
when you're there together. And the atmosphere
helps you to have clarity. So I'm expecting that
there are going to be people that have never
seen before. in the way that you're describing,
that are going to have this thing activated in
their lives. You see that all the time, don't
you? Yes. We were at Joan Hunter's ministry.
I think Tony was there actually with me. And
basically, this is what happened. An angel walked
into the room and was standing in the very front
row to the right -hand side, I remember. And
I said, I just asked, okay, who here felt a shift?
in the room when she started playing that song
it was at a certain point and a bunch of people
raised her hand and i said awesome that's awesome
who here smells something a different smell when
she started playing that song and then a bunch
of people were like yeah yeah i smelled this
heavenly thing and then i said okay now right
here in the front row who here is feeling fire
all over their body And there was like three
people. And then I said, now who here actually
sees exactly where the angel is? And a bunch,
there was a few, there was maybe two people that
pointed right where the angel was. And so everyone
was experiencing this move of something happening
in the room and all experienced at the same time,
but through a different sense. But we're all
in that atmosphere. And it was, and then it was
a healing angel. Of course, it was at Joan Hunter's
ministry, which she's known for healing. So it
was a healing angel, and the healing mantle had
fallen. And so we're in the atmosphere then where
miracles are easy. It was like miracles are easy.
And Tony was there. He saw the angel. And there's
times where me and Tony have, because we've ministered
so many times together, where I'll say, and I'll
point, and he's like. he'll say, go girl, go
girl. Like, you know, cause it's like, he's like,
go. Cause he knows I can see the angel exactly
where it is. And cause he's seeing it too. And
then we'll either he's up on stage and I'm in
the crowd, you know, praying for people or that
sort of thing. So I can't wait. I mean, just
think about Tony, Bishop Tony has been to heaven.
I've experienced heaven. Dean's been to heaven.
Dean Braxton's been to heaven. So I'm expectant
for a heavenly. visitation or encounter and who
knows what that would look like we might all
be laid out on the stage Sharon so all of us
could be on the stage under the weightiness of
God and and that's what we do for hours and that's
okay that's that's what we should do yes um all
too often we like want to rush past it and go
okay well this doesn't fit our program but we
have to wait on the Lord, shift where we need
to shift, you know? Yes. I'm very excited. We'll
see what God does. Yeah. I'm very expectant,
especially given the fact that this is Shavuot.
This is a Moed. This is an appointment with God.
And we've been saying to people, you have an
appointment with God at this convention. There's
something is going to be unprecedented. And we've,
you know, we've had outpouring after outpouring
after outpouring in every convention. Every convention
has that atmosphere. Every convention, people
come and they get the download from the Lord
for their next year, you know, get their marching
orders or whatever. And some get a healing and
some get this and some get that. But everybody's
getting something. I'm expecting something unprecedented
this time, something in the glory, like you've
been talking about the glory. Tell us a little
bit more about your experience in the glory.
Oh, my. It's hard to not probably tear up. That's
okay. The glory of God is alive, and it's real,
and it's not. Forgive me, but I've been hearing
a lot of buzzword, like the glory being a buzzword
in a lot of different Christian circles. But
when I hear it talk about it, it feels like they're
talking about like pixie dust or something. And
I'm like, man, the glory of God is fire. I was
with Sid Roth about, was it six years ago? I
want to say leading a tour in Israel. I'd never
been to Israel, so I don't know why he put me
as a leader on it. But there was about, I want
to say there was a group of us, there was maybe
eight leaders, but we each had a bus of people,
like 40 people that we were in charge of to just
kind of, not in charge of, but just kind of pastor
over those 40 people. Make sure we got all our
people as we moved from site to site. And we
were baptizing people. Todd Smith was there from
Georgia. He's a pastor out in Georgia who's seen
revival for endless revival. It just hasn't stopped.
And he led us to baptize all the people on the
tour, plus other people joined in from, I don't
even know, just people that were tourists decided
they wanted to get this. But I mean, it was.
A lot of people, like 400 people in the sun.
It was a long time in that water. And I've never
experienced a baptism like that. People would
go under the water and either come flying out
with demons coming off of them because the water
was on fire. Like the Holy Spirit was so on that
experience. So they would go under the water
and either... come out with demons coming flying
off of them. We actually had someone physically,
I've never seen anyone physically look like a
dolphin, but this grown man, his body was like,
like he jumped and he jumped over the border
into the Jordan. And we actually had to drag
his body across before the IDF soldiers came.
Oh my goodness. We didn't have control. It was
like, God, you're in charge. So that happened.
Or people came out of that baptism and were immediately
seeing Jesus, encountering in heaven. And so
they would float those people over to me. And
I had all the heads lined up on my lap of these
floaters. And I'm just like laying hands or if
they needed a lot of deliverance, they'd also
send those people, float them over to Ana, she'll
cast out them. So, and I would just sit there
and I had all these people, you know, and people
are just, I mean, just encountering God. It was,
it was sovereign. And then they said, okay, you
know, everyone got on the bus and they said,
now the leaders, like we've been baptized, but
you guys should, we should get baptized too.
You know, and you might wonder why, you know,
yes, I've been baptized before, but why not?
Absolutely. If God's in it, I'm like, I'll run
for it. So I went under the water. Here's where
I'm going with this. I went under the water.
When I came out, I wasn't there anymore. I was
in the throne room. Wow. And all I could see.
was the bottom of the throne and I could see
the glory coming off of it on all sides. And
it was coming towards me. And I had this out
of body experience because I kept screaming,
holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. And
I could hear my own voice yelling that, but yet
I didn't know I was still in the Jordan. Like
I didn't see that I was in this throne room.
And this glory was coming towards me and it was
fire. And I felt fear, like I'm going to die.
It wasn't, I mean, I felt the power of the glory
and the fire, like I'm going to physically die
if that thing hits me. I mean, it's like a fear
of God. Like really, we have to come back to
the fear of the Lord in the church. I just have
to say that on a side note. Yes. The fire then
went through me. It hit my body, my eyes first,
which I think is interesting because I'm a seer.
It hit my eyes first, and then it went through
my body, and I could feel this fire just burning
through my entire body. And I was shaking so
violently. I had Larry Sparks and Dr. Kenan Bridges
holding me up, my arms for me, because they were
beside me when I went baptized. I was just, I
came out of that and I couldn't talk. I had that
like, woe is me experience. I couldn't talk and
I couldn't even stand. My legs were jello. And
then they're like, okay, now you've got to change
out of all your muddy, murky clothes, you know,
to get on the bus. And I'm like, I can't even
walk. This was so humbling, you guys. But I walked
to the female restroom. And the IDF soldiers
had to come down, the female soldiers, and help
me change. Because I couldn't even, like, function.
I was so shaking. And then they helped me change.
And then Larry and Keenan, bless their hearts,
they were waiting for me to help me walk to the
bus as I was shaking. And then I slid into the
seat next to Larry. I'll never forget this. And
he asked me, what did you see? What happened?
And I looked at him and I went. And all I could
do was speak in tongues. And that was my experience.
For four days, I was like that. In and out. heaven
encounters. And then Sid would just say, Ana,
he would put me up at the podium thing. And he's
like, I want you to just release a message to
everyone. Just preach a little bit. And I'm not
kidding you guys. I got up there one time. I
couldn't say anything. I just spoke in tongues.
The fire of God fell. It was the best preaching
I've ever done in my life. I'm not kidding you.
You can just do that every time. That'd be amazing.
I just got up there and I was holding on to the
podium because I was still shaky going. And to
me, I was preaching to them tongues. That's all
it was, just tongues. But fire fell. The fire
that I experienced in the throne room fell. And
everyone just on the floor. And that was our
experience in Israel. Multiple times the speakers
would get up in the fire. You know, if it was
Diane Nutt or Jenny Weaver or Larry Sparks, these
are just names. That's not important. But what
I want you to hear is the glory of God is in
Exodus 40. It says, the cabal like the weighty
glory of god would fill the tabernacle so much
that moses couldn't even enter like moses this
is moses who's been up mount sinai he couldn't
even enter because that was the presence of god
like that is what the present the presence of
god when the glory comes it arrests any program
you have and you You're humbled, you're stopped,
but you're so filled. It's all that's needed.
It's really all that's needed. And I've had a
few experiences, but that was the most life -changing.
After that, I've learned a lot about ministering
with fire angels or angels that are straight
from the throne room show up. And I can kind
of recognize that that's what's happening. Wow.
This is a throne room encounter, but we tend
to rush past the glory, but we just have to be
in him, abide in him. The word says to abide
in him and he in you, and that's the glory. That's
what it's all about is just being in him. And
if we're rushing past, I wonder, will we miss
it? Will we miss? Him in our midst. Sometimes
I've been in times where there's really strong
worship. Don't get me wrong. I love strong worship
and wild worship, but I'll feel Jesus walk towards
me. And it's like everything in me stops. Right.
And, and it can be wild all around, but yet he's
right there. Yes. And I'm like, he's this close.
Back then they had to go into the tabernacle
to experience a presence like that. Like the
cloud would come and they'd be like, okay, it's
time to go. Or the cloud would move and they'd
pack up and run after it and go. And then go
into the tabernacle to experience that presence.
But we have access all the time. But we rush
past it so much. We rush past. The Lord is like
right there. He's right beside you. He's right
with you. But we're like, oh, but I've got to
run to this and this and this. But, you know.
Wow. Yeah. He's here with us, in us. Anyways,
I could talk about the glory for hours. So forgive
me if I'm rambling. No, no, no. We love the glory
too. Absolutely. And we're much more interested,
much more inclined to just let the Holy Spirit
have his way. what use is an agenda if it's not
his? You know, we want him to do everything he
wants to do and give the agenda to him and, you
know, okay, Lord, what's your agenda? That's
all that's important to us. I think, though,
during this conference, people that, I really
feel this, I hear this from the Lord, that people
whose senses were once numb or not able to experience
the Lord and have just heard about encounters
but not themselves physically seen or heard about
miracles but never really experienced, I think
this is going to be an experiential kind of a
conference. And I know you guys have this conference
and you have outpouring every time, but for whatever
reason, I think there's someone who's going to
come that has never... maybe seen it, but from
the point of view of just an outsider looking
in, but suddenly they're going to be like in
the laboratory with Holy Spirit and experiencing
God, you know, which I'm excited. I'm really
excited for. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to
something more, you know, whatever experiences
we've ever had in the past. I really believe
that all of the experiences we have had are going
to pale in comparison to what God is going to
pour out at this convention. Because, you know,
whether you're a brand new newbie and you've
never experienced anything, you know, I just
love watching God throw the newbies in the deep
end and watch them learn how to swim in the deep
end right from the get -go. or you're starting
to see, or at whatever place they are, there's
going to be something more that we've never experienced
before. Yeah. We all experience God differently,
too. True. And so just for, you know, I just
think whoever, if you're listening to this now
or watching this now, I hope this makes you hungry
for more, and it's available to you. I want to
say that to you. Don't feel like, well, that's
just for her or for them, but it's available
to you. And God is so much. There's so much more
we have to learn about him. And anytime we think
we've got him down, we don't. Yeah, it's true.
It's true. I know there's more that I have to
learn about the Lord. And so we're all in this
together. We're all learning. Absolutely. Him,
you know. Yes. Yes. It's about learning him.
I like that. I like that. So do you have any
sense of anything else for our listeners or watchers,
viewers, that you're feeling from the Lord? I
do. And this has nothing to do with the convention.
And I was actually going to ask you if I could
share. Please do. I was seeing something, actually.
I saw a creative miracle for someone's hip, and
I don't know which side of the hip it was because
as I was looking, I was seeing both sides highlighted.
And so I feel like someone, you're either watching
this or you're hearing this when you listen to
it, that I want to pray for a miracle for you.
I even hear the Lord say that you've had, I think
you've had surgery, but God's not a... Like that's
nothing to God. He can creatively create new.
I've seen him bring new organs, you know, into
people's bodies and be completely healed. Even
if you have metal, I've seen metal melt out of
people's bodies before. If you have a hip replacement,
I believe God's going to replace that right now
with hip that is fully functional, you know,
and not tight or no more pain with it. So is
that okay that I pray for that person on here?
You can go on for another hour with that kind
of thing. Go ahead. Thank you. So, Father, I
just thank you right now for the creative miracle
of brand new hips for someone on here who is
needing this. You hear my voice now. When you're
going to hear this, you're going to start experiencing
warmth down your low back. It'll start in your
low back first. and then move down your hip region.
And so, God, I thank you, Father, for releasing
mobility back to them. And pain leaves now in
the name of Jesus. I thank you, God, for a creative
miracle coming into these hips right now in Jesus'
name. And someone else, I see the neck being
highlighted. And so I want to pray for your neck.
You actually have a wrong curvature in your neck.
I don't know if it was from an accident or something
like that, but it's like your neck is very straight
instead of a natural curve. And what I see is
the Lord's hand over your neck, just doing this
and the curvature being restored. And so Father,
I thank you right now for healing to that neck.
All the headaches, tension, headaches, and pain,
command it to leave right now. It leaves now
in Jesus' name. And I thank you for a restored
curvature to that neck. Thank you, Jesus. Now,
what's fun is I want you to actually move your
neck right now. because you're going to be like,
wow, that actually does feel better. Try it out.
Also, for whoever, the hip thing, I want you
to go ahead and do some squats, do something
or twist around and see if you don't feel a difference.
Because sometimes God heals us and we don't even
realize it. And let us know too. Yeah, and report
back to them. You know, we'd love to give glory
to God and hear your testimony, but praise God.
Thank you guys so much for letting me pray for
someone for that. Amen. We want Jesus to move
all the time. We never want to get in his way.
Hallelujah. So you do healing online all the
time, right? Tell us a little bit about that
so people can follow up. It's just that, I mean,
I have a healing team that I work with that all
of us just love the Lord and we just love to
pray for people and prophesy. And so monthly
we have, we try to do it once a month. And I
wish I could say, oh, it's every Friday night,
but it's not. We're all in the season where some
of us are raising children. Some of us have really.
difficult schedules. So how you find out is go
to my website, AnnaWarner .org. And you can subscribe
to just receiving emails from me. And I won't
bombard you. I hardly email. I need to do it
more, to be honest. But I'll send you an email
and let you know when the next one's coming up.
I can tell you. Now, you might listen to this
podcast later, but I know that the next one we're
having is April 27th. But in case you're listening
to this past April 27th of 2026, you can just
go to my website and I post. I'll email you when
it's happening. But we go live with worship because
I believe worship shifts the atmosphere and makes
it easy for miracles. And so we always have worship
and then we just pray for people as they come
on. And all of the team, we, all of us pray fast
beforehand and ask the Lord for words of knowledge
for that evening. of specific things. And then
we'll also pick a few people that as the Lord
highlights to prophesy over that are online with
us live there. And you can actually go back.
The anointing is still on it for healing. So
often people will watch it years later and still
receive a miracle. And you can go to my YouTube
page and you can, there's many, many, many times
we've had healing online. prayer night. So you
can just go watch one. I encourage you to do
that, actually. But yeah, we love to pray for
people. It's wonderful. We love to see what God
does. Beautiful, beautiful. So your name is Anna
with A -N -A. That's just one N. And Werner is
W -E -R -N -E -R. Don't try and spell it like
Warner. It's Werner, right? Werner. Yeah. And
it's dot org? Dot org. Okay. So we'll put a link
in the show notes to make in the description
so that everyone can have an opportunity to click
on that. I will say I do have a seer school coming
up in May. If people are wanting to get training,
it'll be four weeks long in -depth training on
the seer anointing. So I'm not trying to promote
stuff, though. I'm just telling you, I'm just
saying it so it's available. And I have a book,
The Seer's Path, that gives very practical guidelines
to how to see. It's a book I wrote wishing I
had that back when I was starting to see in Brazil.
for some insight. And so I wrote that from that
place. And so I'm not trying to promo. I just
want you to know there are resources that I would
love to get to you in case you're like, I'm hungry
for this. I want to know more. I want to grow
in this. I would love to mentor you or to what
capacity you want. It's, it's there. It's available.
So yeah. Beautiful. And you'll have a table at
our convention so people can come to the convention
and get all of your resources there as well and
sign up for things. And of course, they can sign
up online with your schools, right? Is that how
it works? Yeah. Okay. So would you just pray
for our listeners and our viewers before we close?
I would love to. Thank you so much for this opportunity.
by the way. So glad we could do this. Thank you.
Oh, thank you, Father. Lord, we just love you
so much. And Jesus, I just thank you for that
we get to walk alongside you and you walk with
us hand in hand every day. God, I pray that you
would release a new measure of your presence,
your spirit. I pray for deeper encounters. And
Lord, I just... Pray that someone's spiritual
eyes would be opened today to see more clearly
as you would instruct them, God. Jesus, I thank
you for healing to be released through this time
right now. Even if it's a miracle that I didn't
mention, he can do it. So, Father, I thank you
for releasing miracles now, even now. Thank you,
God, for pain to leave in Jesus' name. I hear
the Lord saying this, your calendar is not the
enemy. That sounds so funny, but I hear your
calendar is not the enemy. So, God, I thank you
that you'll expand space, you'll expand time,
even if it's... I have 10 minutes with you this
morning, God. We have 10 minutes with you that,
that 10 minutes will feel like an eternity in
heaven with you, God. I just pray. And I thank
you that, I thank you for deep encounters, even
with a busy, someone's schedule is so busy right
now. And God, you'll, you'll make time. You'll
make space. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus name. Amen.
Hey, man, thank you so much, Ana. This has been
just absolutely delightful. And we really look
forward to having you with us in St. Louis, May
21st through 24th, 2026 at the Hilton Hotel by
the airport. Hallelujah. Thank you, guys. Hallelujah.
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