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But, you know, when I was with the Father and

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Jesus in heaven, there were things that I was

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experiencing there that when I came back to earth,

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I thought to myself, it's not a Jewish culture.

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It's not an Israeli culture. It's a heavenly

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culture. And there were things that God gave

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the Jewish people or the Israelites that were

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really a representative of heaven. And he meant

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for these people to be able to portray that on

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this planet. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour

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out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global

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Outpouring, where we contend for that promise

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outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so

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that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm

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Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to

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the podcast today. Wow, have we got an episode

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for you. We are here in Jerusalem with our dear

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friend, Dean Braxton, the man that we know that

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went to heaven for an hour and 45 minutes while

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his body was being worked on in the hospital.

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The doctor said he was really, really dead for

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a long time. And this is his first opportunity

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to come to Israel. He said that he saw things

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in heaven that he didn't understand, but he knew

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that the Jewish people would understand them.

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He knew that there was something that was hidden

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in scripture that he wasn't seeing yet, but he

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was going to learn about it when he came here.

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And we have just had an interview with him that

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you're going to enjoy where he's just beginning

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to unpack some of the things that he saw, heavenly

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revelations in Jerusalem. Thank you so much for

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joining us today. Before we get started, we want

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If you're being blessed by this content that

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we have, if you're being built up in the Word

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and being built up in the Spirit, that's what

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this podcast is all about, to equip you to contend

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for the outpouring and to participate in the

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outpouring, to engage in what God is doing in

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the earth in these days. And I also want to encourage

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you to put it on your calendar to come to the

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Global Outpouring Convention 2026. to be held

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in St. Louis, Missouri at the Hilton Hotel by

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the airport. It's very near the airport, just

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a couple of blocks down from where we were last

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time. And it's going to be a wonderful opportunity.

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And Dean Braxton is going to be one of our speakers.

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So we want to really encourage you to come and

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participate in that life -changing experience

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and begin to make relationships with real people

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and not just listening, as good as a podcast

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is, not just... listening to podcasts, but to

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really meet people and to begin to form eternal

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relationships, because that's what this is all

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about. All the stuff we're doing here on the

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planet, as Dean says, is really all about eternity.

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We've been given assignments here on the earth

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that have to do with eternity. So we want to

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encourage you to participate in every way that

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you can in things that have an eternal value.

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Well, Dean, it's a delight to have you with us

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here in Jerusalem. We've been talking about this

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for some years already. Right, right. And I remember

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when, I guess we'd gotten to know each other

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a little bit, but you told us that you had seen

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things in heaven that you didn't understand,

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but you knew that the Jewish people would understand,

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and you were looking forward to this. Give us

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a little bit more of your... Well, first of all,

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thank you for joining us. And just give us a

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little bit more of your expectations and then

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just roll with whatever you want to unpack from

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what you've seen while we've been here together.

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You know, Sharon and Phil, it's really great

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to be able to do this. I'm excited about unpacking

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this, not only in this podcast, but also in future

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podcasts. I can see God really taking this and

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moving it even further. I don't know what to

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tie to it. I kind of like saying Jerusalem and

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heaven are Israelites and the heavenly encounter

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I had and how that... connects together. I don't

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really know how to title it yet or even say,

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you know, how to frame it. But, you know, when

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I was with the Father and Jesus in heaven, there

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were things that I was experiencing there that

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when I came back to earth, I thought to myself,

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it's not a Jewish culture. It's not an Israeli

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culture. It's a heavenly culture. And there were

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things that God gave the Jewish people or the

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Israelites that were really a representative

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of. heaven. And he meant for these people to

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be able to portray that on this planet. You know,

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there's that scripture says, you know, our Father

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who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy

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kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it

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is in heaven. And we think about that when Jesus

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spoke it. But the reality of it, that was something

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that God gave to the Jewish people way back when

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Abraham believed that it was accounted unto him

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as righteousness. And I've always had a heart

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to come. to Jerusalem and see where the connection

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is. That was something I desired right after

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I came back to the planet. I can remember having

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this desire to want to connect those things with

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the things that the Jewish people or the Israelites

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were used to. It was like there were things that

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they assumed we knew about that were really connected

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to heaven. And when we read our word or read

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the Bible, We're missing out on some things because

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it's part of their culture. Because I think sometimes

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what has happened is that we've looked at it

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and said, oh, that's Old Testament. That really

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doesn't apply to the New Testament. You know,

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even though we say the Bible, which is all books

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in the Old Testament and all the books in the

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New Testament. But we kind of like we're separated.

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We're just people that live in the New Testament

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instead of the Old Testament. But if God, in

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the sense of what I experienced, really did give.

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heavenly substance to the Jewish people and how

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they were to walk on this planet, then you cannot

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separate it. It has to go together to really

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understand the New Testament, to really get the

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power that we were given from God even way back.

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In those days when Abraham believed that it was

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accounted unto him as righteousness, or Moses

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when he traveled out of Egypt into the promised

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land, as in the sense of Joshua really got into

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the promised land. But there were things that

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I wanted to connect in that sense. And being

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here in Jerusalem and Israel, I'm telling you

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something right now. It's been overwhelming.

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I even see more than I thought I would see in

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the sense of the connections here. You know,

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it's great to go. around and visit the different

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places. And yeah, there is a sense of the spiritual

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aspect of things. But when I see these things

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that the Israelites had put together or the Jewish

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people had put together or the Levites were supposed

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to be doing, I look at them. I said, that right

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there, there it is right there, that little thing.

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I saw it in heaven. And now I see the connection

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that God wanted that to be put on the planet

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to the point that. Everything's alive. There's

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nothing dead. A couple of people that were with

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me, and we would look at the Ark of the Covenant,

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and they have the cherubim zone and the angels

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on the side. And they asked me a question. They

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said, are they really like that? And I looked

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at them in such a way like, they're alive. Yeah,

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yeah. This representation here is not the living

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thing. Well, we froze them in time. Oh, good

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way to put it. They're not frozen in time. so

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there's movements in that sense of being over

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it's so many different forms and it was like

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they're alive and it was like looking at them

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like don't you know they're alive they're not

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dead you know i mean it's not one though and

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here we think sometimes that that form or that

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structure or that the way it was made that's

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the way it is always and it's not You know, because

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you got live beings there. You don't have a guy

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took a picture and said, hey, this is how it's

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going to be. They're moving all the time. Yes,

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beautiful. And you know what's so cool about

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it? Let me go a little bit farther with that.

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Please. They're part of the angels that are flying

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around listening to God and saying, holy, holy,

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holy, thou art holy. So they're not stuck on

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the Ark of the Covenant in a model. They can

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leave and go around the throne of God and say,

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holy, holy, holy, thou art holy. Wow. Glory to

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God. So they're not constantly hovering over

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the mercy seat. No. Well, they're constantly

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hovering in the sense that God's constantly hovering

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over the mercy seat. Well, there you go. There

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you go. The mercy seat. We would call it beneath

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God. I can't really say it's beneath God because

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in heaven there's no up or down or anything like

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that. But within the midst of God, there is the

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mercy seat. You know what I mean? Within the

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midst, not on the outside, not around him. in

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the midst of him. So you got these angels that

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literally go into that midst of God and they're

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over the mercy seat, but they're going around

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the throne of God also saying, holy, holy, holy,

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thou art holy. Now you take that as a motion

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picture, it gives you a whole different view

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of what was really taken on when God had put

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that symbol of that representation of heaven

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on this planet. Beautiful, beautiful. Well, I've

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always, well, I don't know if it's always, but

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I've had the understanding that when Moses was

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on Mount Sinai with God in his presence, that

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God caught him up to heaven and showed him heaven,

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showed him what it's like, and said, okay, now

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here's how I want you to represent it on earth.

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Yeah. So that you've got... Because on earth,

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you have such a thing as inanimate objects. Yes.

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In other words, objects that are not alive. Yes.

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We don't consider stones to be alive. We don't

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consider gold to be alive. Once you cut down

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the tree, we don't consider it to be alive. You

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know, to make the Ark of the Covenant, you've

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got gold and you've got... The shatim tree that's

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been cut. The wooden box. The wooden box. Gold

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covered. It's a gold box inside of a wooden box

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inside of a gold box. And then that's all covered

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with gold. And then there's the gold mercy seat

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and then the gold cherubim. But those are on

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the earth inanimate. Correct. But not in heaven.

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Not in heaven. Everything. Like the gold in heaven.

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is alive, right? It's alive. It's living. You

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know, I say it thinks it's intelligent. All the

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things that we think about as a person being

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alive. Here you have all these things. items

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in heaven but they're alive now how do you capture

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that the thing about capturing something here

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on the planet is once you capture it you're only

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capturing the image at that moment the next moment

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it's a whole different image and the next moment

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it's a whole different image and the next moment

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it's a whole different image so the image you

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have here on the planet is for that moment but

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what was the next moment you know i think about

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what you just said in the sense of moses being

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taken up and and being shown these things which

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i can go with that whether he left the planet

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or not he was shown these things right and when

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he was shown these things it wasn't like he was

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shown like a movie theater we went to the movie

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and paid our ticket and we went in and we sat

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down the seat. And the next thing you know, we're

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watching this movie go before us. He participated

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in it. So he literally, we would say he would

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become part of the movie. He wasn't just a viewer

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of the movie. He was part of the movie. So he

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would have been able to touch the Ark of the

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Covenant. He would have been able to experience

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the angels or the cherubim flying around and

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the motion being moved in heaven. He would have

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been able to experience the glory of God or the

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midst of God around him. So it wasn't just a

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movie theater type of representation. And the

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reason I say whether he went or not, because

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you don't really care if you went or not, you're

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in it. You know what I mean? So it's like Paul

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said, whether I was in the body or out of the

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body, it doesn't matter. I was there. That's

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all that really matters. Yes. And so in saying

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that to you, it comes back to really looking

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at what God was trying to give to the Israelites

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or the people here on the planet to be able to

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represent that. on the planet, which is also

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in heaven. One of the things I'd like to point

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out here is that when he did do these things,

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Moses did these things and put these things together,

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everything was still alive. Even the inanimate

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objects we had here were alive because God was

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imparted within those items. They still had...

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life in them. That's why when David was moving

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the Ark of the Covenant from one place to another

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place, and someone touched it, and they said

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they touched it wrong, and he died, because they're

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alive. And the power of that item was still powerful,

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because God was within that. He just didn't say,

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I'm taking a picture of something, and I'm putting

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it down there, and he didn't have nothing to

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do with it after that. He was still very much

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involved with that, because that's God. That's

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who he is. And so the power that probably came

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off and all of a sudden the man's physical body

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could not handle it, you know, is really God

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himself that he experienced. Wow. That's even

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thinking about it. You know what I mean? You

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know, and that's before we really dwelled with

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the Holy Spirit. So now we have the Holy Spirit

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inside of us. And if we have the presence of

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God because of the Holy Spirit on the inside

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of us, we don't get shocked. Next thing you know,

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we're not around. You know what I mean? Have

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a bigger transformer. Yeah. That's good. We don't

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have that experience because we have the Holy

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Spirit on the inside. That's a game changer.

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You know what I mean? That's a whole game changer.

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But they didn't have that at the time. And so

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their experiencing of these things is without

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God Almighty and the sense of the Holy Spirit

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living on the inside of them. You know, now you

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can even say when Jesus said, I give you a helper.

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What is that really that helper doing? He's helping

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you to experience the spiritual realm without

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dying. Wow. That's really good. That is amazing.

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So that was one moment here that you've just

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kind of gone all the way around. Can I ask one

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before we continue? Is there anything on earth

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that we see in scripture that holds the glory

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of God that would be alive like that other than

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the ark? You know, all the items that we saw

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so far and anything related to the tabernacle

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period or the temple period. that was directed

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by God to be designed and put together, all of

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those things have life within them. It doesn't

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matter how big they are or how small they are.

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Every one of them have life. Literally, wow,

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this is even more powerful than when you think

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about it. Even the priest's garments, okay? We

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look at it as this just represents something.

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No, you don't understand. God is the designer

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of it. He gave command to implement it. And this

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goes right along with heaven. There's a lot of

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things when you get to heaven, God is still designing

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and still creating. And he's giving his redeem

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to implement it. Okay. That's a whole different

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area to go into. Save that for another podcast.

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We're still implementing the things of God, even

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though he's the creator. So you've got these

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garments. We were up there looking at the place

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where Jesus was supposed to be born at the other

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day. Remember that? Yes. And you talked about

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the swallowing clothes. And you're talking about

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how those were the clothes that worn out. Yeah,

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the Levites or the priests, their garments. when

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they were worn out, would be turned into strips

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for swaddling clothes for the lambs that would

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be sacrificed. Well, if you think of that, if

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they are doing it the way God wants them to do

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it, that still has life within it. So did you

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hear what I just said? So life was being wrapped

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around the sheep. And then when Jesus was born,

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God himself, the life was wrapped around. Jesus

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Christ. Beautiful. The anointing. When we talk

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about anointing, we talk about like oil being

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poured on, which is some of the, you got to,

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God is literally pouring out his life within

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that situation. Yes. And in that darkness has

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to leave. Darkness has to go in that sense, you

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know, and saying that to you. Everything that

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God—I'm watching all these items that we've seen

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so far here in Jerusalem. You know, me and you

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are going to go through each item. I'm going

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to go through the Bible. I'm going to break it

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down. Me and you are going to go ahead and talk

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about each item because each item is a world

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within itself. Wow. You know, I always tell people

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when I was in heaven that the very leaves on

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the tree was like a universe, if you want to

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understand. Wow. And you think about all the

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different leaves on a tree, and every one is

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a universe. Wow. Well, that's the same thing

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when we think about these things that God gave

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the Israelites or the Jewish people to implement

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here on the planet. Everything is a world within

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itself. And the thing about that is we'll do

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the best we can. We'll have boundaries because

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of what we're doing, but there's no boundaries

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with God. So when we're talking about something

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just like we did with the Ark of the Covenant.

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That really doesn't have no boundaries. Someone's

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like, what's that, Melchizedek? You know, he

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said he had no beginning and no end. Now that's

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a whole different story. I got a new look on

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that like I've never had before. Me and you will

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tease it out and we'll break it up later on.

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in one of the podcasts that we do. But in reality,

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if you think about the life of God being implemented

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within everything that he does, you know, all

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the way to when we talk about the tabernacle

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and the way it was put together to the point

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of the temple and how God had that formed and

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why it was formed where it was. Did you hear

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what I said? We say build. No, formed. There's

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a whole different thinking when you look at forming

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something than building something. Wow. Can I

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ask a question? I rarely get to ask questions

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because it's always sure. It's like, with everything

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is alive, like the breastplate of the high priest.

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You know, I remember hearing Sister Dorn, you

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know, when she was teaching on the tabernacle.

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And another name I liked at Urim and Thummim

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was Lights and Perfection. And it was kind of

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her theory that maybe the stones would light

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up in a particular... code or something in order.

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And even like Saul, when he went to inquire by

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the Urim and Thummim and got no answer. And that

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was off the ephod of the high priest and David

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inquired of the Lord. Did you see anything in

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particular about that? You know, that's really

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something. Philip, that you bring that up because

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I skipped over it a few minutes ago because it's

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an explosion. I literally wanted to be able to

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go back to the Bible and look at that for a couple

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of reasons. Number one, I'm writing this book

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on meeting family in heaven, and I know how much

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that breastplate plays in family development

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on the planet, number one. You know, you have

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those colors there. All of those colors are represented

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in heaven and in the shades of each color. So

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you have the color and then the shade of each

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color. You know, my friend here, your friend

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too, Mary Lois, brought up a few things about

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how Gwen Shaw has written a book about the 12

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tribes. Yeah, the tribes of Israel. And the tribes

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of Israel. And I thought, man, I need to read

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that book because there is a connection between

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that book and myself. and what I experienced

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with the Father and Jesus in heaven. And so I

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think I'd be honest with you. I almost feel like

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God is saying to me, Gwen went so far in what

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she knew, and now you can take it the rest of

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the way. And so I'm going to go back and look

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at that book or read that book for the first

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time. And then I'm going to take that and move

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forward with it when it comes to family. plate

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is really representing family, you know, and

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how family is supposed to be eternal and the

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role of family. The Israelites were supposed

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to play that out here on the planet. That was

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God's plan. And that breastplate was supposed

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to be a reminder to them of their importance

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as families and fulfilling their role here on

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the planet. And so when you ask that question

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about it, it is very significant. significant

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but it is also one of those things that i feel

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like god has given me the responsibility to tease

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it out and bring it into that heavenly realm

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because again we're looking at it from an earthly

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round i remember when we were up what i call

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shiloh what do they call it shiloh you know and

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we were talking about the breath and the priest

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and we you know and they were bringing up things

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about the priest but i'm looking at the garments

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and what they're in i'm saying they're representing

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God's family here on the planet. That's what

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that was really about. The uniqueness of God's

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family here. Yeah, they were called Israelites

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and now we call them the Jewish people. But the

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reality, God had a plan for each one of those

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12 stones and their representation of the family

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here and the color. And every color has a sound.

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So there is a sound that goes along with every

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color. You know what I mean? So you just can't

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think about color and leave it at that. There's

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a sound that literally goes along with that.

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So what was the sound of that family? Somebody

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better grab what I just said there. Every family

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has a sound to it. When that sound is disrupted

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or broken, then the family goes through turmoil.

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But as long as the sound is still going, the

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pure sound that God gave from heaven. Then you've

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got harmony with it. And that's a good way of

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saying it. You guys are music people. You know

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how harmony is. Sure, sure. But it goes along

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with what you just said about the priests and

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what they were responsible. And I really believe

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if we had a way to dig into that with some of

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the teachings here in Jerusalem, that we would

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find, you know, there's the, I want to say, root.

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I was corrected the other day. And is that right

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now? They say root? Some people say root. Some

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people say root. Okay, root. Yeah, I was correct.

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So I'm trying to get that word. There's no U.

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It's R -O -O -T. Yeah, R -O -O -T. There's no

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U. Yeah. But I bet if we could, we would find

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it somewhere here where we're going to find out

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that breastplate was when it was first given.

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was to look at representing the israelites not

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as tribes as we think we have a hard time with

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that on the west you know we're westerners so

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we look at but in reality it's family and that's

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ingrained in this land yeah you know while you're

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talking about it it reminds me of two places

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in scripture the first one is in the book of

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joshua where the children of israel have come

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into the land And the first city that they conquer

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is Jericho. And God said to them, this whole

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thing is mine. Don't you touch anything of it

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there. You can't take anything as like your reward

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for war. The booty. There's no there's no you

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can't have this. This is mine. And and the principle,

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I think, is that the first fruits belong to the

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Lord. Right. So that that first city was the

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first fruits that all of it belonged to the Lord.

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It was all dedicated to God. It was holy to God.

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And Achan got tempted and he took this Babylonian

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garment and he took this wedge of gold. And I

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don't remember what else he took, but he had

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buried it in his tent. And then they weren't

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able to succeed in the next battle. And Joshua

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was crying before the Lord. The Lord says, drive

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your tears. There's sin in the camp. And they

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gathered around. And I believe that they used,

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whether it was the Urim and Tumim or whether

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it was the breastplate itself where it spells

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out or it highlights the tribe, the stone of

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that tribe. I'm not sure how it happened. But

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somehow they used that, I believe, to identify,

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okay, which tribe is it? Right. And then which

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family is it? Right. And the same thing was when,

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I believe, when Saul was being chosen to become

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the king and was anointed by Samuel, that the

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tribe of Benjamin was chosen and the family of

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Kish was chosen and then Saul was chosen. And

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I think that somehow it was being used. or the

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ephod, the breastplate was being used for that

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purpose. And I could see that very much happening

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due to the fact that, again, I would say life

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was in that. You know what I mean? And when life

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is in anything, I could see the lightening up.

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I could see the colors lightening up. You know,

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all of a sudden becoming brighter. And then a

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shade may become brighter. Do you understand

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what I'm talking about? I can see God. That's

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God. And most people, ah, because we're trying

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to look at it from a human point of view or our

00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:36.940
limitation point of view and trying to describe

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it from that end. And yet you've got to remember

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God can do these things. You know, there's many

00:26:41.819 --> 00:26:44.180
miracles he did in the wilderness, you know,

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that we can recall. But the reality of it is

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he could do it. He could light up a color and

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then make it. shade of it you know and who knows

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if the israelites are at that time each one knew

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their shade Oh, I wonder. It may have been a

00:27:00.269 --> 00:27:03.609
common that we are this shade, you know what

00:27:03.609 --> 00:27:06.569
I mean? And this is the shade of this color,

00:27:06.670 --> 00:27:08.609
you know, that type of thing. Because in heaven,

00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:10.569
when you get there, you're going to see so many

00:27:10.569 --> 00:27:12.849
different shades. Right. You know what I mean?

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All kinds of shades of colors there. And God

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is still producing colors. I didn't see him changing

00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:23.089
anyone's redeem color or anything like that.

00:27:23.210 --> 00:27:25.569
I'm not saying he's not doing it. I just did

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:29.200
see it. Right. reality of it is people were identified

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.259
by their family color. And I know people say,

00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.019
but what about this? I don't know. He did it.

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.759
I just saw it. And the closest I can come is

00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.359
that breastplate that's on the priest. You understand

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.319
what I mean? Which represents the priest is representing

00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.200
who at that moment? Who is the priest representing?

00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:56.619
Jesus. So you think about that part of it. We're

00:27:56.619 --> 00:28:00.279
all connected because of him and the colors are

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.740
shining. I just remember knowing there was no

00:28:02.740 --> 00:28:05.359
darkness in heaven. This just came to me. There's

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.019
no darkness in heaven. Why wouldn't there be?

00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:09.900
I always say because the Father and Jesus shines

00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:13.200
out of everything. So you think about those colors.

00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.240
They are beautiful colors and Jesus and the Father

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.920
is shining out of everybody. So I can see that

00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:22.000
with the breastplate you're just talking about,

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:25.299
identifying. You know, someone that way that,

00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.400
you know, we could go on that forever. But I

00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.200
really want to look at that closer because of

00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:31.960
just the book I'm writing, you know, meeting

00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.640
family in heaven. Yeah. And I really believe

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.319
that God wants me to bring out that color. Yeah.

00:28:37.779 --> 00:28:40.720
You know. And I think that each of the stones

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:45.160
were engraved with the letters of the name of

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.160
the tribe. Yeah. So that I've and I've heard

00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.900
this. I don't know if it's Jewish tradition or

00:28:50.900 --> 00:28:53.500
if it's. Talmud or Mishnah or something like

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:55.420
that. I don't know if it's written or if it's

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.940
just handed down, but I understand that there

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:02.359
is something to the letters themselves lighting

00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.920
up and spelling things to give the message. Wow.

00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.180
I don't know if that's a fact. I don't know if

00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:11.019
you saw anything in heaven that would indicate

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:13.339
that kind of thing. You know what I saw in heaven

00:29:13.339 --> 00:29:16.940
when you say that? When he says he's going to

00:29:16.940 --> 00:29:20.419
give us a new name, we think individually. God

00:29:20.419 --> 00:29:22.339
doesn't think individually. He thinks family.

00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.660
Okay. So the name that we're going to have is

00:29:25.660 --> 00:29:28.240
going to be a name that starts off with the family

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.079
name. Okay. And then your name. Okay. And, you

00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.420
know, like we have our surnames, you know, Braxton

00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:37.400
is my surname. It comes at the end of Dean. You

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.259
know what I mean? It would be like all the Braxons.

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:42.980
And I don't want to know if the word Braxton

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:44.779
is going to be there, but it'd be Braxton and

00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:47.019
then Dean. You know what I mean? It'd be bus.

00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.619
and then Sharon, or Bus, and then Phil. So there's

00:29:50.619 --> 00:29:52.380
going to be a new name that everyone's going

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:54.980
to be identified for, but the beginning of it

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:57.339
is going to be telling what family you belong

00:29:57.339 --> 00:30:01.819
to. Beautiful. You know, if you think about it,

00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:04.579
you have the children of Israel, and then you

00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:06.759
have the breastplate with all the individual

00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.259
tribes. But the children of Israel was first,

00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.859
and then each one of them, they're of the tribe

00:30:14.859 --> 00:30:19.859
of Judah. And then the name came. It sounds like

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:22.839
you've got a genealogy. That's correct. Where

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:27.779
you've got Judah and Phares and the next one

00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:32.640
and Minadab and Nachshon. And I think part of

00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.039
it is because in heaven, names are your purpose.

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:40.809
You know, this group here does this. You know,

00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:42.890
we could go more into that because of the temple

00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:46.069
and the tabernacle and how families were called

00:30:46.069 --> 00:30:48.650
to serve. Right. You know, and they had their

00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.549
time of serving. Right. But the reality of it

00:30:51.549 --> 00:30:54.650
is if you break it down even more, these people

00:30:54.650 --> 00:30:57.190
are in charge of this. So their name will start

00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:59.289
off with whatever they're in charge of. And then

00:30:59.289 --> 00:31:03.650
within that breaking down of that name is you're

00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:07.559
in charge of this, but you do this part. Right.

00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.599
You're going to carry this piece of the tabernacle.

00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.920
That's right. And that would be your name. Oh,

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.420
okay. And I'm breaking it down, okay, like the

00:31:18.420 --> 00:31:20.099
Ark of the Covenant and the people that carried

00:31:20.099 --> 00:31:25.000
it. You're the right front side. You're the left

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.059
front side. And that would be your name. Wow.

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.220
Well, didn't you tell us at one time that when

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:34.890
you were in heaven, that God gave you the name,

00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:38.029
go back. Yeah, and that was because of my responsibility

00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:40.950
of coming back to the planet. You may remember,

00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:43.809
if we look at this from a heavenly point of view,

00:31:43.829 --> 00:31:45.230
I want to go back to that scripture that says,

00:31:45.289 --> 00:31:47.150
Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy

00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:49.109
name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth

00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:52.529
as it is in heaven. And I'm literally taking

00:31:52.529 --> 00:31:55.910
the colors now and making them more alive because

00:31:55.910 --> 00:31:58.630
in heaven, they're not a breastplate on somebody.

00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:02.960
The redeemed are the breastplate colors. The

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:08.259
redeemed are the breastplate. Yes. Selah. Selah.

00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.660
Pause and think about that for just a second.

00:32:11.859 --> 00:32:16.740
Okay. So like on God's breastplate, is that what

00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:19.960
this is? This is what it is. And I want to break

00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:21.680
back in this because this is very significant

00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.059
too. Because we just think about the colors.

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.359
But there's a sound with every color. So everybody

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.839
has a sound. And in heaven, you're in harmony.

00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.259
Perfect harmony with your family, finally. That's

00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:36.000
a good way of putting it. I don't know about

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.599
you, but when I think about being in perfect

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.279
harmony with my family, that brings great joy

00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.279
to me. Oh, yes. Because on the planet, we try

00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.059
so hard to be imperfect. harmony with our family,

00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:51.359
not talking about other people outside of that.

00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:54.799
And again, we are all the family of God. I think

00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.740
I get that from people that have a hard time

00:32:56.740 --> 00:32:59.119
with their family. And so they don't want to

00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.019
be left out and say, no, no, that doesn't really

00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:04.519
matter. We are all the family of God. And they're

00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.000
right about that. We are all the family of God.

00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.119
But I want to be honest, understand there is

00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.460
within the family, a family. You know, there

00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:17.640
were the Israelites, and that was one family,

00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.759
one huge family. You take cousins, once removed,

00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.680
or cousins three times removed, or whatever you

00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.039
want to say, you know what I mean? Or uncle or

00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.220
auntie, all that type of stuff. But within that,

00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:33.759
all that stuff, there is also a family. And that

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.779
family... The major reason for that is because

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:41.079
that family was anointed. I put that word out

00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:45.440
there, chosen, given that life word to accomplish

00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.519
something in God's kingdom that was supposed

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.859
to be eternal, not temporal. And there was no

00:33:52.859 --> 00:33:55.900
temporal assignment in heaven. They're eternal

00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:00.720
assignments. Wow. Okay. And so if you think about

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.690
that, even here on the planet. Sometimes people

00:34:03.690 --> 00:34:07.250
don't realize there is literally no temporal

00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:10.449
assignments here. They're all eternal. I believe

00:34:10.449 --> 00:34:13.150
that. And I've been saying that to people about

00:34:13.150 --> 00:34:16.230
relationships. You know, when I meet people and

00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:18.989
we connect, you know, there's certain times that

00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:21.230
you really feel a connection with people. And

00:34:21.230 --> 00:34:23.610
I said, this is an eternal connection. It is.

00:34:23.710 --> 00:34:26.130
We may not meet again on this planet, but we

00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:29.960
have an eternal connection. And somehow. In eternity,

00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.500
we're going to be working together or at least

00:34:32.500 --> 00:34:35.280
acquainted or something. And I feel that way

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.760
too with a lot of people. I feel like sometimes

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.159
when I walk into a place, since I do a lot of

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.360
meetings all over the place, I feel like sometimes

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.099
I walk into a place and I know somebody. It is

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:49.019
that I met him down the road or something like

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.059
that. But our purpose was connected through Jesus.

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:54.460
So now we're fulfilling our purpose together

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:57.500
as we're moving forward. And it's an eternal

00:34:57.500 --> 00:35:00.519
purpose. And so it's almost like I walk in and

00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.059
I act like we've always known each other. Sometimes

00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.119
some people have a hard time with that because

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.739
they're thinking, no, we got to go through the

00:35:06.739 --> 00:35:09.820
induction. I got to get to know you. You know,

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:12.139
we got to see if you really, really who you are.

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:15.500
And I understand that. But there's times when

00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:18.519
I want. walk in. I can walk into a church. It's

00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.039
like, I have been a part of this church since

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.300
the beginning. And you all are people I know.

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:27.000
And I talk to you like that. And I have to watch

00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.980
out because some people, they, who are you doing

00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:32.219
that? That's how I feel. That's how I really

00:35:32.219 --> 00:35:35.460
feel. I have no strangers in the kingdom of God.

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:40.679
Amen. Amen. That's so beautiful. We're having

00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.280
some technical issues that have caused us to

00:35:43.690 --> 00:35:46.530
disconnect from each other and we're reconnected

00:35:46.530 --> 00:35:50.829
now. And so if the conversation seems a little

00:35:50.829 --> 00:35:53.070
disconnected, it's because we have to go back

00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:55.070
and figure out where we dropped the ball and

00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:58.409
come back together. So we were talking about

00:35:58.409 --> 00:36:03.070
the eternal connections and how, you know, relationships

00:36:03.070 --> 00:36:06.789
that start on the earth are for eternity. But

00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:09.659
now how do you see that? Is there some way to

00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.199
connect what we're talking about now to what

00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.539
you've seen here in Israel? You know, you've

00:36:15.539 --> 00:36:18.860
seen lots of things. And I know that you are

00:36:18.860 --> 00:36:21.800
wanting to unpack some things in your own study

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.539
time before you bring them back to another episode

00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:29.239
of this podcast. But I want to just see if there's

00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.340
anything that you saw or that you have seen here

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:36.039
in the spirit realm or connecting to what you

00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.760
saw in heaven. with regard to relationships?

00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.199
You know, I believe if we look at that as a whole

00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.780
package, what you're just talking about was the

00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:47.000
Israelites, you know, with the Jewish people,

00:36:47.099 --> 00:36:49.599
there's a different view that we need to look

00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.679
at them instead of just one group. Within the

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.119
group, there are certain responsibilities that

00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.940
each portion was supposed to play. And I think

00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:02.960
they knew that as a nation. You could put it

00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.719
that way. And I think it was so ingrained with

00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.860
them that it was second nature to them to walk

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:12.219
this way. But that wasn't portrayed. and many

00:37:12.219 --> 00:37:14.539
of the things that we now look at the Jewish

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:17.420
people and see how they're acting. Even I think

00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:20.460
sometimes when I go around the city and I'm watching

00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:23.619
so many different sects, you could say, in the

00:37:23.619 --> 00:37:25.940
sense of this group is over here doing this,

00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.980
and this group is believing this, and this group

00:37:27.980 --> 00:37:30.800
is, and they're disjointed. Maybe the Pharisees

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.679
and Sadducees started it out. I don't know who

00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.380
started it out, you know, but that God never

00:37:35.380 --> 00:37:38.550
meant for them to be disjointed like that. Yes.

00:37:38.750 --> 00:37:41.469
You know, he meant for them to be together, moving

00:37:41.469 --> 00:37:45.449
into saying maybe to understand the reason they're

00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:48.369
disjointed, just like the body of Christ. We

00:37:48.369 --> 00:37:50.989
get disjointed a whole lot is because everybody

00:37:50.989 --> 00:37:53.769
has a certain responsibility and it's not the

00:37:53.769 --> 00:37:57.329
same. And it's a part to play in the kingdom

00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:00.789
of God, but it's not the part. And sometimes

00:38:00.789 --> 00:38:03.829
I think we want to be the part. You know, I could

00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:06.760
bring it back down to the. Church is considered

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.579
the body of Christ, and every portion of the

00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:13.159
body has a different responsibility. Let's go

00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.860
back to the Jewish people. When the children

00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:19.420
of Israel were chosen to move forward in God's

00:38:19.420 --> 00:38:23.260
kingdom, every family has a different portion

00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:26.159
of responsibility. And then all of a sudden,

00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.739
somehow, one portion decided they'd take over

00:38:28.739 --> 00:38:32.699
another portion. say, hey, your portion is not

00:38:32.699 --> 00:38:34.840
as good as our portion. That's something. And

00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.780
yet, in God's kingdom, everything has a greatness

00:38:37.780 --> 00:38:40.139
to it. There isn't one thing that's greater to

00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:43.460
another thing. It just has a different responsibility

00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:46.599
or meaning, but it's still great. And that's

00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.860
what I could see in this when I go around here

00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:51.840
in Jerusalem now and see the different connections.

00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:54.880
I think if I was to stay here longer, I would

00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.639
be able even to distinguish the different pieces

00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.780
because I would see the personality. I think

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:04.239
when Shaw brought that out in that book when

00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.019
Mary Lois was talking to me, she's always talking

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:09.340
about these different... I think that it became

00:39:09.340 --> 00:39:12.059
a deficit, but it was never meant to be a deficit.

00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:15.159
It was meant to be a plus. Because in heaven,

00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.199
you have the same thing going on. Everybody has

00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.460
these different colors. They have their different

00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:23.480
sounds in the sense of family, not individually,

00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.199
but as family. But everybody's also... working

00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.539
together, as we would say on the planet, working

00:39:29.539 --> 00:39:32.300
together. They're in unity. Oh, that's a huge

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:36.179
word. That's a huge word. I wish we could understand

00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.860
unity. Doesn't mean we're all doing the same

00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:43.079
thing in the same way. We're doing what God wants

00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.619
us to do, but we're all connected in doing it.

00:39:46.090 --> 00:39:48.869
There's a difference. And I think what happens

00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:51.590
a lot of time is people think unity is follow

00:39:51.590 --> 00:39:54.269
me and my steps to do exactly what I'm doing

00:39:54.269 --> 00:39:57.349
or think like I'm thinking. And then when unified,

00:39:57.510 --> 00:39:59.969
no, you can still think like you're doing as

00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:02.369
long as it's God, because my thinking will come

00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:05.730
alongside yours. And now we're in unity. And

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:08.409
so that's what I think I've seen in Jerusalem

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:11.409
is that when we talk about the Israelites, the

00:40:11.409 --> 00:40:14.579
people here. is they don't have the unity because

00:40:14.579 --> 00:40:17.320
one group believes this way, one group believes

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.440
that way, one group believes this. Me and you

00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.619
were talking about it, and it's of the Temple

00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:26.739
Mount, where the actual temple would be. If it

00:40:26.739 --> 00:40:29.900
was to come back, where would it be placed at?

00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.760
And one group believes it should be over here,

00:40:31.780 --> 00:40:33.260
and another group believes it should be over

00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:36.139
there. And then they get what we call very dogmatic

00:40:36.139 --> 00:40:38.820
or religious about it, to the point where I'm

00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:40.619
not going to talk to you because you think it's

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:44.280
over here. And then we don't have unity. Yeah,

00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:46.579
there's division. And division. And then you

00:40:46.579 --> 00:40:48.219
got the enemy of God says, hey, I'm going to

00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:50.639
take advantage of that division. Right. You know,

00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.860
and then he brings his evil influence up here.

00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.760
And the next thing you know, now we're not fighting

00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.380
only ourselves because we don't agree on something.

00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.820
Now we got all these other demons and devils

00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:04.420
and evil spirits to fight. Sure. You know, and

00:41:04.420 --> 00:41:07.599
that's what I see here in this area. Very spiritual

00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.929
place for both sides. What do you mean by that?

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:15.030
There's a good side and there's a bad side, but

00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.429
both is very spiritual. You know what I mean?

00:41:17.630 --> 00:41:21.309
Well, yeah, I think it's like zooming in and

00:41:21.309 --> 00:41:25.030
zooming in and zooming in and zooming in. And

00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:29.210
the biggest focus is who's going to be worshipped

00:41:29.210 --> 00:41:31.949
on the Temple Mount. Yes. You know, you've got

00:41:31.949 --> 00:41:34.469
the whole earth. Yes. The whole earth belongs

00:41:34.469 --> 00:41:38.010
to the Lord. But you've got this land. That God

00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:40.289
promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their

00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:43.409
descendants. So you get this land, and then you

00:41:43.409 --> 00:41:46.530
focus down, and then you've got Jerusalem. It's

00:41:46.530 --> 00:41:49.230
the city of the great king. And then you've got

00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:55.750
the Temple Mount, where his presence dwelt. There's

00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:57.489
still a sense of the presence of the Lord there.

00:41:58.030 --> 00:42:02.250
And the idea of the battle that's going on. And

00:42:02.250 --> 00:42:04.909
you talked about... some of the darkness that

00:42:04.909 --> 00:42:07.710
you saw, some of the demonic activity, that they're

00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:09.869
not just fighting the good, they're also fighting

00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:11.409
among themselves. They're fighting each other.

00:42:11.409 --> 00:42:13.309
Tell us a little about that. That's a good thing,

00:42:13.329 --> 00:42:17.010
too. Yeah, it is. I remember us being on the

00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:19.650
Mount of Olivet, and it was during a time when

00:42:19.650 --> 00:42:22.090
they were praying. Oh, yes. And we could look

00:42:22.090 --> 00:42:24.690
down literally into the Temple Mount. Yeah. And

00:42:24.690 --> 00:42:27.170
I could see in that spiritual realm, and it was

00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:29.070
like the demons are fighting each other more

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.010
than they were fighting the light. You know,

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.750
I mean, trying to see who was going to be in

00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:36.789
control. But, you know, that's evil. Evil always

00:42:36.789 --> 00:42:40.030
fights against itself. Right. And you may say,

00:42:40.050 --> 00:42:42.110
well, good fights against itself. No, good doesn't

00:42:42.110 --> 00:42:45.190
fight against itself. This is true. And I'm telling

00:42:45.190 --> 00:42:47.989
you right now, good does not do that. Well, this

00:42:47.989 --> 00:42:50.030
group is fighting against, then they must not

00:42:50.030 --> 00:42:53.789
be on the good side. That's a whole different

00:42:53.789 --> 00:42:56.090
story because good does not fight against itself.

00:42:56.309 --> 00:42:59.280
You know, well, the church fights against. I

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.599
was there. Jesus said the gates of hell will

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.219
not prevail against his church. I don't know

00:43:04.219 --> 00:43:06.500
what church you're talking about, but the church

00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.260
of Jesus is not fighting. Now you may have a

00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:11.719
personality problem or you may go through some

00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.239
issues with somebody, but that doesn't mean Jesus

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.760
is with you fighting against that person. Sometimes

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.699
you say our pride gets in the way. Let's put

00:43:20.699 --> 00:43:24.019
it that way. But in that sense of going back

00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:26.500
and looking at all the demonic that I've seen

00:43:26.500 --> 00:43:29.900
in this area is that literally they're fighting

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:33.420
against themselves. And they're trying to jockey

00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.820
to see who's going to be in control. There's

00:43:35.820 --> 00:43:38.000
some movies that I've watched, and I remember

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.800
seeing how the demonic realm would fight against

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.340
itself. You know, they'd kill each other off

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:45.639
in a moment. You know what I mean? People think,

00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.659
well, you know, don't you guys do the same? No.

00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:51.539
Again, good doesn't do that. Okay, that's evil.

00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.900
Evil will do that, but good doesn't do that.

00:43:55.300 --> 00:43:58.219
And so here we got these demonic things fighting

00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:01.460
with each other, killing each other off all the

00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.739
time in the sense of trying to get power so that

00:44:04.739 --> 00:44:06.840
they'd be in more charge. They'd be in charge

00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.139
of something more than anything else. They're

00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:12.019
all after one thing, and that's the worship.

00:44:12.619 --> 00:44:16.539
to be recognized by us to redeem so that they

00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:19.699
get some kudos for themselves let's put it that

00:44:19.699 --> 00:44:23.699
way you know yeah sometimes we'll do that i'll

00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:26.039
tell you the truth sometimes we'll recognize

00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.489
them and Give them a bigger honor, you know,

00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.130
in the sense of how we describe them than they

00:44:32.130 --> 00:44:34.809
should ever be honored. And I like that scripture

00:44:34.809 --> 00:44:37.670
said that it was against the law. Now I understand

00:44:37.670 --> 00:44:41.530
to even say the names of demons, you know, and

00:44:41.530 --> 00:44:43.789
most people don't realize it was against the

00:44:43.789 --> 00:44:46.909
law. Because once we say things, we don't realize

00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:49.269
it was given to us. Life and death is in the

00:44:49.269 --> 00:44:52.050
power of tongue. We start edifying them. And

00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.929
once we start edifying them, then we give them

00:44:54.929 --> 00:44:57.329
more power to go ahead and do some things that

00:44:57.329 --> 00:45:00.110
they shouldn't be able to do to us because we've

00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.769
edified them. But Sharon, when I go back and

00:45:02.769 --> 00:45:04.869
I think about that and looking down and seeing

00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:07.570
all that take place, the other thing that I came

00:45:07.570 --> 00:45:09.550
to understand is we got the restrainers that

00:45:09.550 --> 00:45:12.869
are here. People that are praying and they're

00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:16.329
restraining the evil. So it's not going out.

00:45:16.369 --> 00:45:19.170
We got bad things happening in the planet. Don't

00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:22.070
get me wrong. But the reality of it is God has

00:45:22.070 --> 00:45:25.869
placed people here to restrain in that spiritual

00:45:25.869 --> 00:45:29.409
realm things that would be a lot worse off. And

00:45:29.409 --> 00:45:33.090
so I think I want to go back because I didn't

00:45:33.090 --> 00:45:35.440
bring this out earlier. When the children of

00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.460
Israel were moving, and I believe they probably

00:45:38.460 --> 00:45:41.519
knew this because they had the cloud, you know,

00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.960
by day and the pillar by night. They always knew

00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.059
that the presence of God was going to go with

00:45:48.059 --> 00:45:51.320
them as they went forward. And many times it

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.280
was the heavenly host that was going with them

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.280
in the sense of angels. And we look at it as

00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.780
they were traveling. But God always had that

00:45:58.780 --> 00:46:02.539
heavenly host going with them. Okay. And so.

00:46:03.289 --> 00:46:07.389
that heavenly host has not been reassigned. Oh,

00:46:07.389 --> 00:46:09.730
that's good. You understand what I mean? That's

00:46:09.730 --> 00:46:12.469
good. And so it's probably not as active as it

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:16.010
would like to be, but it's still around. You

00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:18.769
understand what I'm talking about? And so in

00:46:18.769 --> 00:46:21.070
saying that to you, you've got that heavenly

00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:24.590
host that's still around. We always talk about

00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:27.070
the miracles of this nation, just how it came

00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:30.010
into existence and how they won this and how

00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:31.769
they did this. You've got to remember, they still

00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:35.030
had the heavenly host. It's like when David was

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:38.469
anointed as king of all of Israel. And he said,

00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:40.869
well, should I go forward and fight the Philistines?

00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:43.610
And the Lord said, when you hear the army of

00:46:43.610 --> 00:46:46.409
the Lord in the treetops go forward, well, that's

00:46:46.409 --> 00:46:49.050
that heavenly host. There's still a sign to this

00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:51.650
nation. Yes, yes. And that wasn't far from here.

00:46:51.769 --> 00:46:54.650
Yeah. That was really just some blocks from here.

00:46:54.829 --> 00:46:59.889
Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. So in saying that

00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:03.460
to you, it's still here. Still here. I've been

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:06.159
a lot of places and a lot of places throughout

00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.239
the world and also in the United States. And

00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.659
I will say the most spiritual activity I've ever

00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:15.980
seen is being in this place on both sides. There

00:47:15.980 --> 00:47:22.739
is a lot going on here and a lot. Yes. Wow. Do

00:47:22.739 --> 00:47:25.659
you have any other impressions that you want

00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:28.260
to share? You know, I'm looking forward to our

00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:31.760
future times together where I really am excited

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.860
about going through the word of God and looking

00:47:34.860 --> 00:47:37.539
at it because God is a detailed God. I haven't

00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:40.179
had the release to talk about the things that

00:47:40.179 --> 00:47:44.239
I'm talking about now. And now God is revealing

00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.190
these things to me. from the earthly point of

00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:49.150
view. I had them from the heavenly point of view,

00:47:49.190 --> 00:47:51.590
but from the earth. So I'm looking forward to

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:55.349
working with global outpouring in the next few

00:47:55.349 --> 00:47:58.150
months. And we're really teasing out the things

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:01.750
in the next few months and watching how God brings

00:48:01.750 --> 00:48:05.590
these things to life. And I love it that you

00:48:05.590 --> 00:48:07.610
and Phil have this background. You've been coming,

00:48:07.670 --> 00:48:10.849
how long have you been coming? Since 1978. Yeah,

00:48:10.909 --> 00:48:13.869
and since you guys, it helps out when you bring

00:48:13.869 --> 00:48:16.710
in those little things on the side. I think in

00:48:16.710 --> 00:48:19.210
traveling and since I've been here in Jerusalem,

00:48:19.349 --> 00:48:23.530
and I loved it when Gene Little would bring up

00:48:23.530 --> 00:48:26.869
things, or Mayor Lewis would bring up. things

00:48:26.869 --> 00:48:29.130
that filled with break because it opened up even

00:48:29.130 --> 00:48:32.329
more for me to be able to see you know and to

00:48:32.329 --> 00:48:36.329
connect and there was so many wow moments i didn't

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:38.449
always say it out loud but in my head there was

00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:44.409
like wow wow because now i was connecting that

00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:47.010
heavenly realm to this earthly realm and how

00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:50.590
god poured it into the israelites you know the

00:48:50.590 --> 00:48:53.550
jewish people to be able to spread upon the earth

00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.460
And it was like, wow, that's why you did that.

00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.320
Wow, that's why you said that. Wow, that's why

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.960
you had them create that. There were so many

00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.300
of those. And I didn't know it was going to be

00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:09.659
that vast. I knew there were some things I wanted

00:49:09.659 --> 00:49:13.039
to connect, but I didn't know. It was going to

00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.099
be that fast. So I'm excited to look forward

00:49:16.099 --> 00:49:18.860
for the next few months and go through the word

00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:21.360
of God and bring out things. And I'll probably

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.179
be calling you up and sharing. I found this out.

00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:28.159
Listen to this. You know, I feel you've got to

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.719
hear this. You've got to hear this. And then

00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.340
we would develop it and be able to bring it out

00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:35.420
in this form. Because I believe it's going to

00:49:35.420 --> 00:49:38.619
bring life. You know, it's not to promote me

00:49:38.619 --> 00:49:42.409
or anything. It's to really bring life to people.

00:49:42.630 --> 00:49:45.570
Yes. So that when they read their word, you know,

00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:49.110
their Bible, it'll be more. I like what a friend

00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:52.429
of mine, Nancy Teal, said that when she came,

00:49:52.570 --> 00:49:55.789
being here really helped her the first time that

00:49:55.789 --> 00:49:58.730
she was here, put more life to the Bible. Yes.

00:49:58.730 --> 00:50:01.670
And I can see that. I would recommend anybody,

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.610
if you get an opportunity to come to Jerusalem,

00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:08.769
take it because it will do that for you. But

00:50:08.769 --> 00:50:11.239
we'll be able to go farther. We will be able,

00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:13.639
me and you and Phil, we'll be able to not only,

00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.300
if someone comes here and says, okay, now you've

00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:18.679
seen the Ark of the Covenant. Now when they look

00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.480
at it, they think, well, in heaven, those just

00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.500
cherubims are alive. Yes. Do you understand?

00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:27.039
Yes. All of a sudden, the Ark of the Covenant

00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.500
isn't just a box with poles somebody carried.

00:50:29.619 --> 00:50:32.460
Right, right. And all of a sudden, it's alive.

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.840
Yes. Does that make sense to you? Absolutely.

00:50:35.380 --> 00:50:38.849
Absolutely. And I have seen. in the spirit, in

00:50:38.849 --> 00:50:42.150
the description of how to make the Ark of the

00:50:42.150 --> 00:50:44.170
Covenant. And I mentioned earlier that it's a

00:50:44.170 --> 00:50:48.050
gold box inside of a wooden box, inside of a

00:50:48.050 --> 00:50:51.269
gold box. And the kind of wood that it's made

00:50:51.269 --> 00:50:54.510
out of is shittim wood. And it's like acacia

00:50:54.510 --> 00:50:59.010
and it's thorny and it's gnarly. It grows really

00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:01.469
slowly in the desert. You know, it's just, it's

00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:04.809
a hard wood. And to me, that's a picture of our

00:51:04.809 --> 00:51:08.989
fleshly nature. And gold is a picture of deity.

00:51:09.289 --> 00:51:13.170
So when you get Jesus on the inside of you, and

00:51:13.170 --> 00:51:17.630
you find yourself in Christ, and then that gold

00:51:17.630 --> 00:51:20.750
crown that goes around the top of it, it covers

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:24.710
up the fleshly life. It covers up that fleshly

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:29.630
behavior. It takes us into Galatians 5. I love

00:51:29.630 --> 00:51:35.050
how you call it G5. That whole list of the fleshly

00:51:35.050 --> 00:51:38.579
nature. These are the works of the flesh. All

00:51:38.579 --> 00:51:41.179
that gnarly stuff, all that pokey stuff, all

00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:45.219
that stuff that you've described to us doesn't

00:51:45.219 --> 00:51:49.780
go to heaven. And you get it tempered with the

00:51:49.780 --> 00:51:52.500
presence of the Holy Spirit, where the Holy Spirit

00:51:52.500 --> 00:51:55.900
is bringing forth His fruit of love and joy and

00:51:55.900 --> 00:51:59.619
peace and patience and faith and kindness and

00:51:59.619 --> 00:52:02.079
gentleness and all these things that are the

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.079
fruit of the Spirit, that are the nature. of

00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.400
the Lord Jesus in our lives. It's the deity,

00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.760
the gold covers up that fleshly nature and gets

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.320
empowered by the presence of God. Yeah. Well,

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.119
it's going to be good to tease all that out.

00:52:18.179 --> 00:52:21.900
Yeah. In the next few months and me and you and

00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:24.440
Phil be able to go through it. And I'm still

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.119
excited. I could say more. I won't say that.

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:31.420
It's just that I really want to be more detailed.

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.130
Yes. I just want to be more detailed. The showbread.

00:52:36.170 --> 00:52:38.929
Why was it showbread? Oh, yeah. You know, why

00:52:38.929 --> 00:52:41.929
was it even created in the way it was created?

00:52:42.030 --> 00:52:45.789
Why do we have the procedure that they have?

00:52:45.949 --> 00:52:48.329
You know, I know we have an earthly definition.

00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:50.710
Right. But those are the things I experienced

00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:53.210
in heaven. Good. And they're in the word. Okay.

00:52:53.309 --> 00:52:55.789
I just want to go through it and help people

00:52:55.789 --> 00:52:58.570
because I really believe in doing that. They'll

00:52:58.570 --> 00:53:01.519
even see more. Yes. They'll see more. And the

00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:05.699
whole purpose of it is that we be changed by

00:53:05.699 --> 00:53:08.119
the presence of God, that the eyes of our understanding

00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.719
are being enlightened, like Ephesians talks about,

00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:13.579
that it's not just about getting head knowledge.

00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:17.539
This is about getting transformed from glory

00:53:17.539 --> 00:53:20.059
to glory, from faith to faith, that all of these

00:53:20.059 --> 00:53:23.780
things that we're doing are equipping us for

00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:27.539
operating with our Father in the purpose that

00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:31.409
He made us for. So would you pray for our listeners?

00:53:32.710 --> 00:53:34.949
Father, thank you for each and every person that's

00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:37.130
listening right now. Thank you that you love

00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:39.969
them so much. Thank you that you have your hand

00:53:39.969 --> 00:53:43.329
on them even right now. And some of the people,

00:53:43.389 --> 00:53:46.230
Father, I know they got excited by just hearing

00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:48.309
this. And then some people are kind of like,

00:53:48.329 --> 00:53:51.280
I got to question some things. I'm asking you

00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.679
right now to calm that so that they can be able

00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.739
to hear you and what will be brought out, not

00:53:57.739 --> 00:54:00.300
only what was brought out in this moment, but

00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:02.320
also what will be brought out in the future.

00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.500
I thank you, Lord, that you love them so much.

00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.559
That you want them to know this more than they

00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.019
even are desiring to know it. And some of them

00:54:12.019 --> 00:54:14.880
are desiring like everything they have. I also,

00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.099
Lord, ask you to open up the door for those that

00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.239
want to come to Jerusalem. Make a way for them.

00:54:21.530 --> 00:54:23.849
to be able to come financially, because that's

00:54:23.849 --> 00:54:26.150
usually the biggest hindrance for people not

00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:29.449
coming, Lord. And then also, Lord, just to have

00:54:29.449 --> 00:54:32.389
it where when they come, that they even experience

00:54:32.389 --> 00:54:35.510
more of what we're talking about, Lord. Make

00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:38.989
this a place that people come, and as my good

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friend Mary Lloyd said, before rivers come out

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of them, as they go back and they touch other

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parts of their nation, Lord. You know, that's

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what the Israelites were... given this responsibility

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you know they were given this responsibility

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to touch nations so father in the name of jesus

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i just pray that the doors open for people to

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come but they also go back and touch their nation

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and lord i just thank you right now that you're

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healing some people physically yes this is a

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outward example of you doing something inward

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within their lives right now I thank you. And

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Lord, somebody's listening to this and don't

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even really know what we're talking about. I

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ask you to keep on drawing them. In your word,

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it says, seek, knock, and ask, and you will find.

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So Father, I'm asking in the name of Jesus, they're

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seeking you. So help them to find you. Send somebody

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to them as you did Ananias to Paul, you know.

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Yes. And you helped him to find his way. Send

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someone to them right now in the name of Jesus.

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Comfort them in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Please

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