WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.540 I said, Lord, why are you showing me this? He 00:00:03.540 --> 00:00:05.679 said, because I've called you to be a forerunner. 00:00:06.860 --> 00:00:09.119 And you're going to teach my people how to walk 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:12.960 in this by faith because the hour is coming when 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:15.779 this is going to be necessary for my people to 00:00:15.779 --> 00:00:19.460 embrace. Because there's going to be wars. There's 00:00:19.460 --> 00:00:21.300 going to be famine. There's going to be pestilence. 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.260 There's going to be natural disasters. Everything's 00:00:24.260 --> 00:00:26.460 going to shut down, but my word will not be stopped. 00:00:34.420 --> 00:00:38.280 God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:41.979 on all humanity. Welcome to global outpouring. 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:45.359 We contend for that promised outpouring. We equip 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:48.899 for that outpouring so that we may engage in 00:00:48.899 --> 00:00:52.399 that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.840 Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.500 have with us Bruce and Reshma Allen, who are 00:00:59.500 --> 00:01:03.000 coming here the first week of September for their 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.879 School of Supernatural Translation by Faith. 00:01:06.060 --> 00:01:08.900 This is an amazing school. We've had them here 00:01:08.900 --> 00:01:12.019 three times before, and every single time it 00:01:12.019 --> 00:01:14.980 is life -changing. And we're going to talk with 00:01:14.980 --> 00:01:17.400 them about the subject that they're going to 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.579 be teaching when they come here that started 00:01:19.579 --> 00:01:23.099 with this question, can a man be translated by 00:01:23.099 --> 00:01:30.439 faith? 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Well, Bruce and Reshma, 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:54.919 it is such a delight to have you back with us 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.599 again. It's been a really long time, and we're 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.400 excited that you're with us on this podcast. 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.379 Welcome. Thank you. It's great being back together 00:03:02.379 --> 00:03:04.830 with you guys. We've missed you. Yes, thank you. 00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:07.409 Yes, we've missed you too. And we're looking 00:03:07.409 --> 00:03:10.710 forward to your coming for the School of the 00:03:10.710 --> 00:03:14.030 Supernatural Translation by Faith, September 00:03:14.030 --> 00:03:18.770 1st through 6th, 2025, right here at our headquarters. 00:03:18.969 --> 00:03:22.069 I know that you are going around the world doing 00:03:22.069 --> 00:03:24.990 these schools, and it's just our delight to be 00:03:24.990 --> 00:03:28.349 able to host this one again. Well, we always 00:03:28.349 --> 00:03:31.530 have a great time there, and it's nice having 00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:35.259 everybody in the same place. The same time. There's 00:03:35.259 --> 00:03:37.060 always something special. There's that deposit 00:03:37.060 --> 00:03:39.419 from ministry there from years and years that 00:03:39.419 --> 00:03:42.759 makes it a thin place. Ah, that's right. That's 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.319 right. You know, I've been here, I think, about 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.659 48 years. And you're absolutely right about the 00:03:49.659 --> 00:03:52.560 deposit that's been put here. Oh, my. Oh, my. 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:54.900 Such amazing people. You couldn't put a price 00:03:54.900 --> 00:03:59.099 tag on it. Oh, no. No, no. It's eternal. We've 00:03:59.099 --> 00:04:02.419 been pressing in for the eternal, for the glory 00:04:02.419 --> 00:04:08.599 of God for decades. And it's just wonderful to 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.479 be able to find people of like precious faith 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.419 that are teaching things that are so important 00:04:15.419 --> 00:04:18.060 for moving forward in the days that we're in 00:04:18.060 --> 00:04:22.079 and going into. So for the sake of those who 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.720 are listening that have not met you before or 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.850 heard about you before, Can you give us a little 00:04:28.850 --> 00:04:32.430 bit of background about how you got to this place 00:04:32.430 --> 00:04:35.370 where you're doing what you're doing? By accident? 00:04:35.670 --> 00:04:41.110 No. I don't think so. You know, the Lord, the 00:04:41.110 --> 00:04:43.329 steps of a righteous man are ordered of the Lord. 00:04:43.410 --> 00:04:46.250 So it's not any predisposition or planning on 00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:49.490 my part. It's the sovereign God in his mercy 00:04:49.490 --> 00:04:53.189 that's led us step by step into line upon line, 00:04:53.269 --> 00:04:57.759 precept upon precept revelation. I know when 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:01.180 I got saved, I used to read some of the old timers 00:05:01.180 --> 00:05:02.800 that talked about, you know, they had to pray 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.800 through to salvation. And at first I didn't understand 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.220 that. But then I remembered for the first year 00:05:09.220 --> 00:05:12.959 or two of my walk with God, I was so uncertain 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:16.399 because I wasn't taught correctly. I had no formal 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.540 background at all. And so the moment you make 00:05:19.540 --> 00:05:21.500 a mistake, oh, no, I got to get saved again. 00:05:21.579 --> 00:05:25.889 And I didn't have that. You know, it was a struggle 00:05:25.889 --> 00:05:29.129 just coming to the assurance part. And then it 00:05:29.129 --> 00:05:31.689 seems like everything in my walk with God was 00:05:31.689 --> 00:05:35.110 in that vein of I had to stand in faith and press 00:05:35.110 --> 00:05:38.189 through to the assurance and the reality of the 00:05:38.189 --> 00:05:41.470 truth. And I thank God for that. I really do, 00:05:41.569 --> 00:05:44.389 because not only does it put a perseverance in 00:05:44.389 --> 00:05:47.290 there, but it also puts a greater hunger and 00:05:47.290 --> 00:05:51.069 desire, a passion for more. And so that's one 00:05:51.069 --> 00:05:53.769 of the ways he trained me. I never had all the 00:05:53.769 --> 00:05:56.129 flashy experiences. Everybody would have these 00:05:56.129 --> 00:05:59.290 amazing testimonies, you know, and I was like, 00:05:59.370 --> 00:06:02.709 is there something wrong with me? And I would 00:06:02.709 --> 00:06:05.449 even have, you know, some of the well -known 00:06:05.449 --> 00:06:08.990 ministries of our day. They would pray. I'd be 00:06:08.990 --> 00:06:10.670 in a prayer line and everybody would be dropping 00:06:10.670 --> 00:06:12.670 and having, you know, experiences and they'd 00:06:12.670 --> 00:06:15.449 pray for me. And it was like, that's it? That 00:06:15.449 --> 00:06:19.009 happened. And I couldn't, you know, I really 00:06:19.009 --> 00:06:20.970 contended and said, Father, what's the matter 00:06:20.970 --> 00:06:24.970 here? And finally, one day he said, son, I want 00:06:24.970 --> 00:06:27.490 you to learn to walk by faith, not an experience. 00:06:27.949 --> 00:06:31.290 Amen. Once that's established in you, that faith, 00:06:31.569 --> 00:06:35.149 then I'll release experiences. Beautiful. And 00:06:35.149 --> 00:06:38.649 so because my character is a human being, if 00:06:38.649 --> 00:06:41.069 I'd have had an experience, I probably would 00:06:41.069 --> 00:06:44.449 have camped there forever and never persevered 00:06:44.449 --> 00:06:49.990 on. Yes. And so that's how he did that. Looking 00:06:49.990 --> 00:06:52.250 back, you know, you can see when God drops little 00:06:52.250 --> 00:06:56.149 nuggets of truth or something that tweaks, you 00:06:56.149 --> 00:06:58.949 go, wait a minute. And then you start digging 00:06:58.949 --> 00:07:02.850 in that direction. And it led up to, oh, I don't 00:07:02.850 --> 00:07:07.370 know, 23 years ago now or more. It's 2025. Yeah, 00:07:07.410 --> 00:07:11.170 more than that, 26 years ago. When I woke up 00:07:11.170 --> 00:07:13.350 one morning and Holy Spirit was there and he 00:07:13.350 --> 00:07:16.709 said, can a man be translated by faith? And that's 00:07:16.709 --> 00:07:19.720 where it started for me. I had no. No paradigm 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:21.939 for that at all. Didn't even know what he was 00:07:21.939 --> 00:07:25.100 talking about. And so by revelation, the Lord 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:28.279 began to unfold certain mysteries in Scripture 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.220 that pertain to this specific generation. And 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:36.060 that's the beginning of all of this super, supernatural 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:41.540 walk. So can you give us an idea of what translation 00:07:41.540 --> 00:07:47.470 by faith is? By faith, Hebrews 11 .5. By faith, 00:07:47.550 --> 00:07:51.250 Enoch was translated that he should not see death. 00:07:51.829 --> 00:07:55.209 And he had this testimony that he pleased God. 00:07:55.850 --> 00:07:59.529 So there's one. Yes. I didn't even know about 00:07:59.529 --> 00:08:02.990 that. I mean, that wasn't on my radar. So that 00:08:02.990 --> 00:08:06.610 also threw in an extra facet of challenge. By 00:08:06.610 --> 00:08:10.990 faith, he was translated or changed sides, transferred, 00:08:11.230 --> 00:08:14.230 that he would not even see death. And I went, 00:08:14.290 --> 00:08:18.199 wait a minute. Isn't it saying the word that's 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.399 appointed unto man wants to die? Well, so now 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.839 I had to go back and have my understanding. The 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.959 theology I thought was absolute truth, revitalized 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.339 and renewed by the word of God. There you go. 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.139 Not the explanation from a mindset about the 00:08:35.139 --> 00:08:38.980 word of God. Exactly. Every one of us receives 00:08:38.980 --> 00:08:41.639 revelation and we teach that, but that is never 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.139 going to be the full counsel of God. We must 00:08:45.139 --> 00:08:48.740 learn that. So we get together just like us right 00:08:48.740 --> 00:08:54.100 now. We put into the hat our facets of revelation. 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:59.679 Now we have a greater whole. And throughout your 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:01.919 life, you're going to get people that continue 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.299 to add to or have a different facet of revelation 00:09:05.299 --> 00:09:08.600 or understanding. Now we're starting to... I 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:10.259 don't want to say flesh out, but we're building 00:09:10.259 --> 00:09:13.539 up the totality of the fullness of what God wants 00:09:13.539 --> 00:09:17.220 to release. So to me, that's something I had 00:09:17.220 --> 00:09:19.960 to learn. We all have to learn. So he always 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:22.759 throws these little things in there and then 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.000 says, go back to the scripture, go back to the 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.740 scripture. And so that was the first one, Enoch 00:09:28.740 --> 00:09:32.899 in Genesis. Enoch walked with God for 300 years 00:09:32.899 --> 00:09:36.509 and he was not for God took him. Yes. Well. Okay, 00:09:36.509 --> 00:09:40.610 what is that? Well, that's a translation. Physical. 00:09:41.350 --> 00:09:45.370 And he didn't see death. Elijah and the chariot 00:09:45.370 --> 00:09:47.970 of fire, a translation, and he did not see death. 00:09:48.409 --> 00:09:52.590 Yes. Philip, translocation. I use different terminology 00:09:52.590 --> 00:09:55.690 because one was physical and spiritual. One is 00:09:55.690 --> 00:09:57.809 just physical. Of course, they're spiritual. 00:09:58.330 --> 00:10:00.830 Sure. But just in the attempt to try and describe 00:10:00.830 --> 00:10:03.350 this. So all throughout scripture, he began to 00:10:03.350 --> 00:10:06.009 show me things. And I went, how come? This isn't 00:10:06.009 --> 00:10:09.389 on the radar of anybody in the church. Right. 00:10:09.590 --> 00:10:13.590 Yeah. Religious spirit will try and nullify the 00:10:13.590 --> 00:10:16.909 reality of the kingdom. True. And so that's it. 00:10:16.970 --> 00:10:20.570 That's it in a nutshell. And in that mix, you 00:10:20.570 --> 00:10:24.070 know, Reshma, the facet she plays, it's foundational. 00:10:24.330 --> 00:10:27.210 It's got to be. You have to be able to discern 00:10:27.210 --> 00:10:30.610 what's truth from error, what's God's spirit 00:10:30.610 --> 00:10:33.809 and any other spirit. So without that, so many 00:10:33.809 --> 00:10:36.799 people get led astray. Very true. Very true. 00:10:36.899 --> 00:10:39.539 And I so appreciate the fact that everything 00:10:39.539 --> 00:10:43.019 that you teach is so carefully founded on the 00:10:43.019 --> 00:10:46.840 Word of God. And then Reshma adds that extra 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:51.200 piece of discerning by the Spirit. What is this? 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:54.059 Is this the real thing? Because there's counterfeits 00:10:54.059 --> 00:10:57.059 out there, and that's what makes a lot of people 00:10:57.059 --> 00:11:00.580 afraid to even look at this subject. Because 00:11:00.580 --> 00:11:04.460 they think that this is just astral projection. 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.600 Spooky spiritual. Yeah, spooky spiritual. But 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.860 this is supposed to be normal Christianity. And 00:11:13.860 --> 00:11:18.059 I remember more than 50 years ago when I got 00:11:18.059 --> 00:11:20.139 the baptism in the Holy Spirit, I was hearing 00:11:20.139 --> 00:11:23.419 about people that were experiencing this thing 00:11:23.419 --> 00:11:25.659 of, you know, they're driving down the road and 00:11:25.659 --> 00:11:28.220 all of a sudden they have arrived at their... 00:11:28.429 --> 00:11:31.710 destination, and not enough time has passed. 00:11:31.950 --> 00:11:33.929 They've gotten where they were going without 00:11:33.929 --> 00:11:38.009 the time. So somehow they were translated into 00:11:38.009 --> 00:11:40.870 the place where they needed to be in God's timing. 00:11:41.029 --> 00:11:45.289 And so this is normal as far as I'm concerned. 00:11:45.450 --> 00:11:48.730 It never was kind of spooky spiritual out there 00:11:48.730 --> 00:11:50.570 to me because I heard about it when I was a teenager. 00:11:50.950 --> 00:11:55.950 You know, okay, well. Let's just do that. So 00:11:55.950 --> 00:11:59.590 the things that you're teaching are normal Christianity. 00:12:00.409 --> 00:12:02.809 You know, I've said it should become the norm 00:12:02.809 --> 00:12:05.830 in our life. It's not normal. But the Lord said, 00:12:06.029 --> 00:12:09.169 no, this is kingdom life. Yes. Kingdom life. 00:12:09.250 --> 00:12:11.250 And we're part of the kingdom and we should be 00:12:11.250 --> 00:12:13.730 operating based upon kingdom principles and kingdom 00:12:13.730 --> 00:12:18.809 life, not man's intellectual grasp of something 00:12:18.809 --> 00:12:21.129 that's spiritual, which is always far short of 00:12:21.129 --> 00:12:26.299 truth. Right. So, yeah. And, you know, when we're 00:12:26.299 --> 00:12:28.799 young in the Lord that we're, oh, that's cool. 00:12:28.940 --> 00:12:31.200 Yeah, I want to do that. Right. But as you hang 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.019 around for a while, no, God doesn't do that. 00:12:34.059 --> 00:12:39.500 You can't do that. So doubt is something you 00:12:39.500 --> 00:12:42.039 learn, just like faith is something you grow 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:46.899 in. Oh, mercy. Wow. God forbid. Yeah. And so 00:12:46.899 --> 00:12:50.190 we have to be purveyors of truth. and the potential 00:12:50.190 --> 00:12:52.610 or possibility of kingdom life rather than doubt 00:12:52.610 --> 00:12:55.190 and the impossibility of kingdom life. Amen. 00:12:55.370 --> 00:12:58.090 Amen. Well, there's so many churches that are 00:12:58.090 --> 00:13:02.629 teaching that all of these miracles left us with 00:13:02.629 --> 00:13:04.590 the apostles when they went home to be with the 00:13:04.590 --> 00:13:09.110 Lord, which is totally wrong. There's no evidence 00:13:09.110 --> 00:13:11.450 that that's true, except they had to come up 00:13:11.450 --> 00:13:13.370 with a reason for why they didn't have the power. 00:13:14.090 --> 00:13:17.009 Yeah. Well, sure. Well, that's the truth. But 00:13:17.009 --> 00:13:19.940 you know what it is? It's a brilliant strategy 00:13:19.940 --> 00:13:23.120 of the enemy to keep believers from their full 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.120 inheritance in Christ. Amen. It's very true. 00:13:26.820 --> 00:13:30.159 And so why does the devil have to fight the church 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.980 when he can have the church fighting the church? 00:13:32.500 --> 00:13:36.179 Wow. That's true. Problem solved. Let's move 00:13:36.179 --> 00:13:40.820 on to other things. Wow. Yeah. Just stir up trouble 00:13:40.820 --> 00:13:43.100 between people. Yep. And that's why the scripture 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:45.559 talks about when we come to the unity of the 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.279 faith. Yes. To the fullness of the stature of 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.259 the knowledge of God. Right. Well, with all of 00:13:51.259 --> 00:13:53.919 these little schisms that are bred by the devil 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.720 and people buy into them because they're taught 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:01.059 to believe a lie, then we're not what we're supposed 00:14:01.059 --> 00:14:02.860 to be. We're not what we're going to be, but 00:14:02.860 --> 00:14:07.600 shortly we will be. Amen. Amen. Yeah. And, you 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.379 know, we've had Dean Braxton on this podcast 00:14:10.379 --> 00:14:13.779 numerous times and you've known him. for many 00:14:13.779 --> 00:14:16.200 years since he had that experience where he went 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.799 to heaven. And I just feel like it's God's mandate 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:24.500 for us, really, to grasp what the kingdom is 00:14:24.500 --> 00:14:26.899 like. What is the kingdom of heaven like? What 00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:30.899 happens there? And let's start. acting it out 00:14:30.899 --> 00:14:34.340 here on earth as it is in heaven in the process 00:14:34.340 --> 00:14:38.200 of answering the prayer that Jesus taught us 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.519 to pray, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.379 earth as it is in heaven. I think in this generation, 00:14:43.419 --> 00:14:47.019 we have the opportunity to participate in the 00:14:47.019 --> 00:14:50.100 answer to that prayer. Oh, very much. The word 00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:52.379 says, basically, set your affections on things 00:14:52.379 --> 00:14:55.899 above. Yes. So now he's giving us multiple examples 00:14:55.899 --> 00:14:59.240 through people who have had these. death experiences 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.960 and come back to share so that we have a better 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.320 grasp and focus, not only from a testimony standpoint, 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.360 but from the scriptural standpoint. So what you 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.659 focus on, you empower. So if you want the kingdom 00:15:11.659 --> 00:15:14.799 of heaven on earth, first it starts in us. What 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:18.220 are we focusing on? And if we focus on the kingdom 00:15:18.220 --> 00:15:21.120 of heaven, now we're going to be, the natural 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.259 outflow is releasing it on the earth because 00:15:23.259 --> 00:15:26.480 out of the abundance of the heart, it flows forth. 00:15:27.340 --> 00:15:31.019 Right? The mouth speaks. And we're in that season. 00:15:31.100 --> 00:15:35.480 The numbers of the Hebrew year, they're spelled 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:40.539 out as letters in the Hebrew alphabet. There's 00:15:40.539 --> 00:15:43.700 no numbers in Hebrew. So they use letters. And 00:15:43.700 --> 00:15:48.419 this decade is the decade that is shown by the 00:15:48.419 --> 00:15:51.840 letter Peh, which is a P sound, you know. But 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:55.360 it also means mouth. The word for mouth is also 00:15:55.360 --> 00:16:00.649 Peh. Our words in this season, in this time, 00:16:00.710 --> 00:16:05.070 are so important that we speak the word of God 00:16:05.070 --> 00:16:08.990 instead of speaking our own opinion that may 00:16:08.990 --> 00:16:13.269 be stilted and may be out of order. Right. Isn't 00:16:13.269 --> 00:16:16.730 that interesting? Just my quirky sense of humor, 00:16:16.870 --> 00:16:19.549 pay. What you speak, you were going to pay for. 00:16:19.649 --> 00:16:22.909 Oh, yeah. Or you paid for it. That's why you're 00:16:22.909 --> 00:16:25.710 speaking. But yeah. Yeah. There's a price to 00:16:25.710 --> 00:16:27.350 be paid for every word that comes out of our 00:16:27.350 --> 00:16:30.649 mouth. That's very true. Wow. And this new one 00:16:30.649 --> 00:16:35.210 coming up, 5786. Yeah. Fascinating. You're going 00:16:35.210 --> 00:16:38.809 to enjoy when we have my kid sister, I call her 00:16:38.809 --> 00:16:42.409 Patricia Bartell, coming to teach with us. We 00:16:42.409 --> 00:16:46.269 started her years ago on the letters and numbers 00:16:46.269 --> 00:16:49.149 and the pictographic. And she has, again, like 00:16:49.149 --> 00:16:52.269 everything she sets her focus on, she's passed 00:16:52.269 --> 00:16:55.539 me by like I'm standing still. She's put together 00:16:55.539 --> 00:17:00.340 courses in this now as well as powerful understanding. 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.519 You're going to enjoy talking with her, but she 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:04.339 might bring some of that to the table at the 00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:08.460 school too. And she's coming to this September 00:17:08.460 --> 00:17:10.119 school with us. Yeah, she'll be at the school. 00:17:10.380 --> 00:17:13.519 Wonderful. So we'll maybe have to interview her 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.519 as well. Oh, wow. Actually, that would be awesome. 00:17:16.660 --> 00:17:20.119 And ask her lots of questions. Oh, good. Tremendous. 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.480 So Reshma, tell us a little bit more about... 00:17:23.819 --> 00:17:28.480 your background and how this came to be that 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:32.019 you're participating in the teaching and particularly 00:17:32.019 --> 00:17:43.680 about the importance of discernment. Well, my 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:46.059 background, I was born and raised in Fiji Islands. 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.299 So I grew up in the church. My family was radically 00:17:49.299 --> 00:17:52.900 saved through a supernatural vision. that my 00:17:52.900 --> 00:17:57.859 mom had. And our people are very, what do I call 00:17:57.859 --> 00:18:01.059 them, spiritual people or people who always saw. 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.440 So I grew up in a family where my grandmother 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.920 was a very spiritual person. And Hindus, my background 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.240 is Hinduism, they worship over 3 million gods. 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.500 300 million. Yes. And my grandmother was this 00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:22.569 priestess, I would call her. And she always invited 00:18:22.569 --> 00:18:26.569 spirits over herself to minister to people. She 00:18:26.569 --> 00:18:29.309 will have words of prophecy. She will read palms 00:18:29.309 --> 00:18:32.849 and everything. And when she did this, I watched 00:18:32.849 --> 00:18:36.750 it. As a little girl, she will change into this 00:18:36.750 --> 00:18:39.910 different person. Totally different. This sweet 00:18:39.910 --> 00:18:43.589 little grandma, her demeanor, her look, her body 00:18:43.589 --> 00:18:47.190 movements, her voice will change into this different 00:18:47.190 --> 00:18:51.230 thing. And then she will start speaking and she 00:18:51.230 --> 00:18:53.589 will start kind of prophesying and all these 00:18:53.589 --> 00:18:57.609 things. So people came to her. And now I understand 00:18:57.609 --> 00:19:00.250 that I could say that she was in witchcraft. 00:19:00.569 --> 00:19:04.029 So growing up, I knew that supernatural was very 00:19:04.029 --> 00:19:09.029 real because we saw it. We felt it. So when we 00:19:09.029 --> 00:19:11.829 became believers, my mom was supernaturally saved 00:19:11.829 --> 00:19:16.109 because she had a vision. So for me, it wasn't 00:19:16.109 --> 00:19:19.349 difficult to believe that supernatural is real. 00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:24.269 So if there is a dark side, there has to be a 00:19:24.269 --> 00:19:27.490 side that is full of light. That's what I always 00:19:27.490 --> 00:19:30.130 believed, good and evil, right and wrong, good 00:19:30.130 --> 00:19:33.710 spirits and bad spirits. So then growing up in 00:19:33.710 --> 00:19:37.420 the church, when I first got my Bible, it became 00:19:37.420 --> 00:19:40.579 so precious to me because I started reading that. 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.819 And I started seeing things in the Bible and 00:19:43.819 --> 00:19:46.720 seeing the supernatural things that happen, talking 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.740 to God and seeing Him and God visiting us. It 00:19:50.740 --> 00:19:54.400 did not take me by surprise. Because I was used 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:57.039 to knowing that supernatural is real. And then 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:59.359 I started seeing things in the Bible and seeing 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.980 things in the church and some of the teachings 00:20:01.980 --> 00:20:05.400 of the way people were treated. And I started 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.619 saying, oh, that's not what the Bible says. That's 00:20:08.619 --> 00:20:12.359 not true. So these things I pondered in my heart 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.420 over my growing up years in the church. And I 00:20:16.420 --> 00:20:19.730 think so from a very young age. It must have 00:20:19.730 --> 00:20:23.430 been the grace of God. And it was that he started 00:20:23.430 --> 00:20:25.890 showing me things differently. I will have these 00:20:25.890 --> 00:20:29.349 dreams and visions that were so vivid about the 00:20:29.349 --> 00:20:32.849 last days. And at first, my family thought that 00:20:32.849 --> 00:20:35.450 there was something wrong with me because culturally 00:20:35.450 --> 00:20:39.490 also, we were not allowed to speak a lot in the 00:20:39.490 --> 00:20:42.470 church. And if we had dreams or visions or ever 00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:45.130 used a word like God said this to me or I saw 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:48.650 this, you were made fun of. And also because 00:20:48.650 --> 00:20:52.309 the way women were looked at. So you were a woman, 00:20:52.349 --> 00:20:56.329 God couldn't talk to you. He only speaks to men, 00:20:56.490 --> 00:20:59.329 but not to women. So things like that. So a lot 00:20:59.329 --> 00:21:01.789 of things was suppressed and I was looked down 00:21:01.789 --> 00:21:05.910 on. But I had this relationship with the Lord 00:21:05.910 --> 00:21:10.230 and I started seeing right and wrong. So it was 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:13.150 in me. So when I got married and came to the 00:21:13.150 --> 00:21:16.240 United States. And I started traveling with my 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.559 husband some over 23 years ago now. Going around 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.940 the world, we see a lot of things. We see a picture 00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:27.960 of the church in a big way. Broader stroke of 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.400 the brush. Yeah. And the places we went to, things 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:33.839 that happened, things that happened. And I'm 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.079 like, huh, I will have this check in my spirit. 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.339 So I will just talk to my husband. And then the 00:21:38.339 --> 00:21:40.619 Lord started talking to me all of a sudden, long 00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:44.079 time ago, probably now 18, 19 years ago. He started 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:47.799 talking to me about discernment. And I would 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:51.160 stand up and say that God said that we need discernment. 00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:55.190 But in the beginning, I... Didn't do a due diligence 00:21:55.190 --> 00:21:58.150 of listening to what God was saying or really 00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:01.730 studied or looked into it. But I started seeing 00:22:01.730 --> 00:22:04.170 a glaring need of discernment in the body of 00:22:04.170 --> 00:22:07.730 Christ. So over the years, he started speaking 00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:11.470 to me. And then really about, let's say now about 00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:15.599 10 years ago, we were going to Philippines. to 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.700 do some ministry and we had our bags packed and 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:20.940 we were leaving the house and Bruce turns around 00:22:20.940 --> 00:22:23.640 and looks at me and he goes, Reshma, I want you 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:25.779 to get ready. You will be speaking this time. 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.640 And I kind of looked at him, just smiled. And 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:31.619 he's like, oh, you are just joking. They want 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:33.579 to hear from you. They don't want to hear from 00:22:33.579 --> 00:22:36.440 me. You know, you are speaking. So I did not 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:39.700 give much thought to it. How we husband and wife 00:22:39.700 --> 00:22:41.880 sometimes just brush each other off when they 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:43.819 are saying something we are not serious. That's 00:22:43.819 --> 00:22:46.539 what I had done. So when we got to Philippines, 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:50.720 the Lord started speaking to me within me. And 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:54.299 it was so strong that he was saying that I was 00:22:54.299 --> 00:22:56.700 going to share something, that I was to stand 00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:59.720 up and share something about discernment. And 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.630 I was just like, Lord, what are you doing? I 00:23:02.630 --> 00:23:05.789 think so we all know when God asks us to do something 00:23:05.789 --> 00:23:08.650 and we don't want to do it or we feel we are 00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:12.650 not equipped or not prepared. And he makes us 00:23:12.650 --> 00:23:15.849 very uncomfortable. He made me very uncomfortable 00:23:15.849 --> 00:23:19.690 where I had to say yes. And I said, Lord, but 00:23:19.690 --> 00:23:23.789 I haven't. I'm sorry that I have not read any 00:23:23.789 --> 00:23:28.039 materials of anybody. on discernment i didn't 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:29.880 even look at all the scriptures in the bible 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.400 i really didn't study it or make notes so i have 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:38.640 nothing all i have is an empty notebook and a 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:43.400 bible so if you would show me what to say then 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:47.079 i will say it then he started speaking to me 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.500 about discernment and he started showing me scriptures 00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:54.079 so that's where it all started and i I was able 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.559 to put a message together, a teaching together 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:01.839 really quickly. One morning we were waking up 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.619 because I was struggling within myself, English 00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:07.099 being my second language. Sometimes I really 00:24:07.099 --> 00:24:09.819 feel intimidated standing in front of people 00:24:09.819 --> 00:24:13.539 and speaking. And then I like to hide behind 00:24:13.539 --> 00:24:15.619 my husband though he pushes me. I'm like, I don't 00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:18.279 have anything to say. If God says something to 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.079 me, I will tell him and say, you tell the people. 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.640 This is a word of knowledge. You tell them this 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.119 is a word of prophecy. I was the hand puppet. 00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:35.740 But that time, God just came upon me so strongly. 00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:38.359 He started speaking to me. And then one morning, 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:42.420 as we were waking up, Bruce pulls out this book 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.380 from the drawer in the hotel room, and he opens 00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:48.440 it, and he gives it to me. And I open it, and 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.240 it was like a devotional book. And on that particular 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:57.079 page, it was written about Billy Graham. He was 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:01.480 invited. to speak at this function where there 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:05.440 were going to be white -collar jobs people, people 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:09.640 from higher education, people from CEOs and all 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.920 these smart people he considered, I would say, 00:25:13.099 --> 00:25:16.259 and he was to speak in front of them. And he 00:25:16.259 --> 00:25:19.940 was so nervous. He was just a young guy. He was 00:25:19.940 --> 00:25:24.339 just a young man, and he thought he was just 00:25:24.339 --> 00:25:27.799 a little preacher. Does he have to say in front 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:31.700 of all these educated people? And the Lord spoke 00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:34.839 to him that day and encouraged him. Somebody 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.339 called him, I think, and said to him that scripture 00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:41.559 where it says that, that I will open your mouth 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.920 and I will feel it. And that encouraged him so 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.259 much that morning. And he was able to go and 00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:51.000 had a great time. And so when Bruce did that 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.359 to that page and I said, OK, Lord, I hear you. 00:25:53.740 --> 00:25:57.299 I really hear you. And I said, okay, I will just 00:25:57.299 --> 00:26:00.539 stand up and you will fill my mouth. So that's 00:26:00.539 --> 00:26:02.799 how it all started. The discernment message started 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.319 building up. So everything that I share in the 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.819 school on discernment directly came from the 00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:12.240 Lord. He led me through the Bible. And it's just 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:16.660 been so exciting to be able to share what he 00:26:16.660 --> 00:26:21.460 laid out for me and for all of us. So that's 00:26:21.460 --> 00:26:24.490 where it started. Beautiful. Beautiful. And now 00:26:24.490 --> 00:26:26.809 her book should be published by the time we get 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:30.650 to. Oh, really? Wonderful. Well, yeah, we've 00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:32.369 been talking about that for a couple of years, 00:26:32.529 --> 00:26:35.130 I think. Yes. Finally, we actually found somebody 00:26:35.130 --> 00:26:38.130 from Jasper that's doing it. What? Really? He 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:42.430 might stop by. Yeah. Yeah. Angela. Her name is 00:26:42.430 --> 00:26:46.869 Angela. Wonderful. Wonderful. That's great. Yeah. 00:26:46.970 --> 00:26:50.329 So, Bruce, when you first got started with this 00:26:50.329 --> 00:26:53.059 idea, the Lord. planted in your heart, the question, 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.900 can a man be translated by faith? What happened 00:26:56.900 --> 00:27:01.019 about a year later after you had been studying 00:27:01.019 --> 00:27:03.720 this? We were doing a New Year's conference, 00:27:04.019 --> 00:27:07.700 Andre Ashby and myself in a church in Coeur d 00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:10.680 'Alene, Idaho. Pastors there had been friends 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.339 of mine for quite some time. As a matter of fact, 00:27:12.420 --> 00:27:15.819 my dad and pastor's wife, Ruth, her dad used 00:27:15.819 --> 00:27:20.160 to minister together way back. Wow. He said, 00:27:20.180 --> 00:27:21.559 so what's the Lord been talking to you about 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.559 recently? And I started sharing a little bit 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.599 about this. And he went, oh, are you going to 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.579 speak on that? I said, no, no, no, no, no. I'm 00:27:27.579 --> 00:27:30.319 not ready for that. I don't like to throw things 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:34.859 out that I don't have a grasp of, you know. And 00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:37.420 the other couple that was in the ministry together, 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.380 they partnered together, shared it with them. 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.819 And when they got up to introduce the meetings 00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:45.200 and that, this other couple said, oh, and Bruce 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:46.960 is going to teach on this. And now I'm like, 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:51.200 well, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm a little bit 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.599 annoyed. I'm just being honest. And during worship, 00:27:54.740 --> 00:27:57.779 I'm contending with God. And out of nowhere, 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.779 I was caught away in the Spirit. Glory to God. 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:04.759 Over Latvia. So that started it. And the truth 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.779 is, my focus from where I had studied up to that 00:28:08.779 --> 00:28:12.700 point was translation was physical. So I didn't 00:28:12.700 --> 00:28:14.859 even equate this being caught away in the Spirit 00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:18.910 to a translation experience. But that was, again, 00:28:18.990 --> 00:28:20.769 part of the process over the years is the Lord 00:28:20.769 --> 00:28:23.230 trained me, and this gave me understanding. And 00:28:23.230 --> 00:28:26.250 then what happened after that is I saw a chariot 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:31.650 of fire come in. I mean, bedlam. The pastor and 00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:33.289 his wife sat there and were caught away, and 00:28:33.289 --> 00:28:35.230 this other couple were caught. I mean, on and 00:28:35.230 --> 00:28:37.849 on and on. And the Lord really put his stamp 00:28:37.849 --> 00:28:40.490 on this and said, this is what you're called 00:28:40.490 --> 00:28:45.150 to. So I was really blown away in one respect, 00:28:45.210 --> 00:28:48.900 but a little bit. Not confused, but I say, Lord, 00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:52.460 why are you showing me this? He said, because 00:28:52.460 --> 00:28:56.079 I've called you to be a forerunner. And you're 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.960 going to teach my people how to walk in this 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.720 by faith because the hour is coming when this 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.599 is going to be necessary for my people to embrace. 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.079 Because there's going to be wars. There's going 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:09.819 to be famine. There's going to be pestilence. 00:29:09.900 --> 00:29:12.779 There's going to be natural disasters. Everything's 00:29:12.779 --> 00:29:15.059 going to shut down, but my word will not be stopped. 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:20.420 Amen. And so that's where it started. Yeah. And 00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:23.279 of course, we had even just a small taste of 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.660 that in 2020 and 2021 that, you know, people 00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:31.119 weren't able to travel. And I think that probably 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.019 God's people did some of that already. And there 00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:36.940 are lots of people that have experiences where 00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:40.539 they think they're dreaming in the night. Exactly. 00:29:40.619 --> 00:29:44.000 And they're actually doing it. Yeah, that's true. 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:46.400 That's part of. the process he took us through 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.680 it in through the word, but you know, we reason 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:55.980 away reality based upon doctrine. Yeah. And the 00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:57.839 Lord taught me through this process. It's better 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.279 for you to err on the side of faith than on the 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:05.420 side of doubt. Amen. So if you, you know, chew 00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:08.299 on that a little bit, it's okay. We started making 00:30:08.299 --> 00:30:12.279 part of our lifestyle, not every night, but as 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.079 the spirit moves us mostly. Father, we're available 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.019 tonight. Knowing that God can take us in the 00:30:19.019 --> 00:30:23.559 Spirit to do this. And why would I have to be 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.680 asleep for that? Because you overthink during 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.359 the daytime. And you can't turn the noise down 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.480 enough to hear the voice of God or be obedient 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.059 to the Word of God. But at night, there's a measure 00:30:36.059 --> 00:30:41.200 of rest now God can do. Beautiful. And you mentioned 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.000 2020, a little taste of it, that reminds me of 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.680 when 2020 hit, how many calls and emails we started 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.180 getting from people. Because Bruce had been talking 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:54.640 about this, you know, he believes very radically 00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.119 in the Word of God, all the things that happen 00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.880 in the Bible. And he said, you know, it's a possibility 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:02.799 to happen in our generation, too, because the 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.460 Word of God is profitable for every generation. 00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.720 And it's the same yesterday, today, forever, 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.089 you know. Heaven and earth, the Bible says, will 00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:14.130 pass away, but His Word will not. And His Word 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.569 is full of supernatural encounters. And we started 00:31:18.569 --> 00:31:20.430 getting calls because He's been talking about 00:31:20.430 --> 00:31:24.210 these things for over 20, 25 years. And some 00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:26.789 places we went to, they just made fun of Him. 00:31:27.269 --> 00:31:30.930 And some places, somebody would stand up and 00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:33.819 say, You are crazy and things like that. And 00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:36.660 all of a sudden, when 2020 happened, we started 00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:39.880 getting calls. We started getting emails. And 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.599 they said, we are sorry or thank you. And you 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.579 have been talking about these things for so many 00:31:45.579 --> 00:31:48.480 years. But now we see because he used to say 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.579 a long time ago, there's going to be a day that 00:31:51.579 --> 00:31:54.359 we won't be able to travel. There will be a day 00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:56.880 that we will be locked down. Do you think because 00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.599 naturally we are locked down and God's work will 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.410 stop? No. He will supernaturally take us places. 00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:07.069 His word will always go forth. His people will 00:32:07.069 --> 00:32:09.769 always be able to do what they've been called 00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:13.710 to do. So, yeah, it was an amazing taste in 2020. 00:32:13.930 --> 00:32:18.529 It's amazing. Yeah. 2020 was only a, it was the 00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:20.490 Lord's grace and mercy saying, pay attention 00:32:20.490 --> 00:32:23.269 now. I'm letting you know this is going to come. 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.799 even more than it has this time. So that to me 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.519 was a starting point for many people to understand 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.519 the Word of God and grasp it. Because what's 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.700 before us naturally is going to be far more severe 00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:40.420 than this man -made problem was. There are natural 00:32:40.420 --> 00:32:44.039 things happening, volcanic, you know, the weather, 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.640 floods, solar flares that are shutting down electronics 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.049 and shutting down flights. we're in this and 00:32:51.049 --> 00:32:53.390 it's going to continue to increase and get worse 00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:56.549 and worse. So to me, the starting point for most 00:32:56.549 --> 00:32:58.690 believers is you better start focusing on the 00:32:58.690 --> 00:33:02.769 kingdom and God's solution to these things that 00:33:02.769 --> 00:33:05.369 are coming on the earth. So the time is now. 00:33:06.069 --> 00:33:09.890 Absolutely. Absolutely. So Reshma, you had an 00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:13.970 experience in the night some years ago where 00:33:13.970 --> 00:33:16.650 you dreamed something. Can you tell us about 00:33:16.650 --> 00:33:21.319 that? Yeah. Quite a few years ago now, I believe 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.400 we were in Wisconsin ministering, and it was 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.759 a Saturday night. I think it was 2016 when that 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.559 happened. It was a Saturday, and we went to bed. 00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:37.299 And I had this very vivid dream, very real and 00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:41.460 very tangible. All night long, I was going up 00:33:41.460 --> 00:33:44.859 and down a beach and warning people to go to 00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:49.160 a higher ground. A huge wave was coming. So all 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.019 night long, I was helping people. In an Asian 00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:56.359 country. And people look like Asian people. Middle 00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.900 of the night, I got up to go to the bathroom. 00:33:59.019 --> 00:34:02.759 I went back and right back into that. So in the 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.920 morning when I woke up, we were getting ready 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.740 to go to church to speak. And I said to Bruce, 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.619 as he was getting ready, I said, I need to turn 00:34:10.619 --> 00:34:13.059 the TV on. And he said to me, Reshma, you know 00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:16.760 that. We don't turn TVs on in the hotel rooms. 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.019 Before a meeting. Before a meeting. We understand 00:34:20.019 --> 00:34:23.059 that. But anyway, we hardly ever do it. And he 00:34:23.059 --> 00:34:25.340 said, I don't want any kind of influence. I don't 00:34:25.340 --> 00:34:27.800 want to see anything. We're preparing to go to 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.579 church. And I said, no, no, you don't understand. 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.619 I'm not turning it on because I want to watch 00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:35.639 TV. I said, there is something that has happened 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.699 in the world, and I need to see it. And we turned 00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:42.760 the TV on and tsunami in Japan had just happened. 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.460 That big tsunami that we all remember was so 00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:48.820 devastating. I was just like hit with this realization. 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.619 Oh my gosh, was I there all night long helping 00:34:52.619 --> 00:34:56.320 people? It was so real. It was so real. So that 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.800 really shook me because I have had dreams like 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.980 that before all through my life. I believe the 00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:07.480 majority of us have it because God sometimes, 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.260 going around the world and sharing, people will 00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:12.519 come up to say, and they will say, you know, 00:35:12.579 --> 00:35:14.960 I have had dreams like that. I have seen myself 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.960 somewhere in the world praying for somebody, 00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:22.039 helping somebody, and all these. And so that 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.420 was one of my very vivid ones years ago. Yeah, 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.880 when the tsunami happened. Very interesting that, 00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:31.659 you know, because you're in their time zone. 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.360 So which is our night is their day. That's true. 00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:39.219 That's tremendous. I remember our founder, Sister 00:35:39.219 --> 00:35:42.519 Gwen Shaw, telling those kind of stories a lot. 00:35:43.019 --> 00:35:45.820 I remember there was one lady that she talked 00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:48.900 about. Her name was Confidence Cloats, I believe. 00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:52.000 I think that was her name. And she told us about 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.920 how this woman would have these dreams. And in 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.380 her dreams, she was taken by an angel to some 00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:03.369 faraway place. minister while she's sleeping. 00:36:03.730 --> 00:36:06.730 She'd be ministering. And then she'd wake up 00:36:06.730 --> 00:36:09.090 in the morning and have this wonderful testimony 00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:11.550 of, oh, I had such a wonderful dream, right? 00:36:11.869 --> 00:36:15.730 So there was one time that she was taken, now 00:36:15.730 --> 00:36:18.190 she lived in California, and that she was taken 00:36:18.190 --> 00:36:22.150 by an angel to someplace in Asia. And as the 00:36:22.150 --> 00:36:24.949 angel is bringing her back, the sun is beginning 00:36:24.949 --> 00:36:28.409 to rise and she sees the coastline and she says, 00:36:28.780 --> 00:36:30.880 Could we just go down and let me get a handful 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.599 of sand? And so the angel takes her down. She 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.519 gets a handful of sand. The next thing she knows, 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.639 here's this knock on the door. Sister Confidence, 00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:42.719 Sister Confidence, what's going on? You're sleeping 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.340 so late. This is unusual for you. And it was 00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:49.420 the lady that lived with her and her assistant. 00:36:51.210 --> 00:36:55.030 She says, oh, come in, dear. And she begins to 00:36:55.030 --> 00:36:57.530 tell the wonderful testimony of how the angel 00:36:57.530 --> 00:37:00.849 took her and she was ministering in her dream. 00:37:00.969 --> 00:37:03.429 She's ministering in her dream. And she says, 00:37:03.510 --> 00:37:05.750 as the angel was bringing me back, I asked him 00:37:05.750 --> 00:37:10.809 to let me grab a handful of... And she opened 00:37:10.809 --> 00:37:14.030 her hand and she had a handful of sand. Oh, wow. 00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:18.409 So, yeah, there's something very real about all 00:37:18.409 --> 00:37:21.199 of these things that are going on. Mr. Confidence. 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.820 Exactly. That's amazing. That's something by 00:37:26.820 --> 00:37:29.260 faith, isn't it? Yes, absolutely. And that's, 00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:32.199 I see a lot of people, they get hung up on the 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.699 minutia. Was that me or was that my imagination? 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.000 Was that a dream or was it real? Was that air 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.059 on the side of faith? Father, thank you for that 00:37:40.059 --> 00:37:43.340 opportunity. Can I do it again? Yes. We have 00:37:43.340 --> 00:37:46.079 an American Indian sister that is a very good 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.670 friend of ours. she knew bruce before we were 00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:52.110 married so that's like over 25 26 years ago and 00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:54.110 when bruce started talking about these things 00:37:54.110 --> 00:37:57.190 and teaching and one day she came to us and uh 00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:00.750 she said bruce i have something for you apparently 00:38:00.750 --> 00:38:04.969 in 1950s she interviewed a man that was in 80s 00:38:04.969 --> 00:38:08.650 80s she had interviewed a man that was known 00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:12.510 to be taken in the spirit by the angels all over 00:38:12.510 --> 00:38:16.500 the world and she said bruce i have that VHS? 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.420 VHS interview. Interview. And she said, I'm the 00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:23.199 only one who interviewed him. And she said, all 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.219 these years I have been keeping it. But the Lord 00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:30.179 said to me to give it to you. Yeah. And we have 00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:35.019 the original copy of that. And we turned it on. 00:38:35.139 --> 00:38:40.550 Oh, my. Yes. There's testimonies after testimonies 00:38:40.550 --> 00:38:43.989 of this man being taken all over the world and 00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:47.869 to a point where his wife got so used to it. 00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:50.909 And she will share stuff like this on the show 00:38:50.909 --> 00:38:54.769 that her clothes, she'll wake up, his clothes 00:38:54.769 --> 00:38:58.230 will be there and he's not. And he's gone. And 00:38:58.230 --> 00:39:00.530 then she knew where he was that the Lord had 00:39:00.530 --> 00:39:03.730 taken him. And then she will share from around 00:39:03.730 --> 00:39:07.860 the world, he will bring souvenirs for her. Oh, 00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:11.159 wow. And neighbors would see flashes and he'd 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.420 disappear and flashes, he'd come back. Isn't 00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:16.559 it some years ago that we had given to a man 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.820 the VHS and he... No, we put it on CD. And he 00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:23.199 put it on CD, but then somebody put it on YouTube. 00:39:23.300 --> 00:39:27.619 So you can find it on YouTube. But his son called 00:39:27.619 --> 00:39:31.340 you. Yes. His son called us, this man's son, 00:39:31.539 --> 00:39:35.719 seven years ago. Really? Yes. And what was the 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.840 conversation he had with you? Basically, he verified. 00:39:39.099 --> 00:39:41.340 Oh, yeah. He was okay with it. Yes. Oh, thank 00:39:41.340 --> 00:39:44.840 God. That's truth. That this happened to his 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.039 dad. Wow. So that was pretty awesome. Yeah. But 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.900 he was shunned by the church. Yes. Because they 00:39:50.900 --> 00:39:53.019 said, that's not God, that's the devil. Yeah. 00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:56.239 Yikes. Well, the things that he did were amazing. 00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.519 And only God. Only God. Yeah, because the same 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.500 lady gave Sister Gwen a copy. Oh, okay. So we've 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:06.360 had it for years too. Oh. Yeah, and you know 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.280 what's interesting? I was reminded of this. They 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.039 just had a 7 .3 earthquake in Alaska. Yeah. Remember 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:18.860 the one back in 64? Yes. 7 .3? Yes. Guess what? 00:40:19.139 --> 00:40:22.360 He was by the Spirit taken there and ministered 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.619 to people that were trapped. Really? Wow. So 00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:28.570 to me it was like. Pay attention. Pay attention. 00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:33.570 Yes. Because I've always said I want a supernatural 00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:36.269 first responder team to be there and help. Yes. 00:40:36.329 --> 00:40:38.909 Yes. That's one of my driving motivations in 00:40:38.909 --> 00:40:41.590 teaching this. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard you say 00:40:41.590 --> 00:40:43.389 that, and I was hoping that you would say it 00:40:43.389 --> 00:40:47.670 again for us on this episode. So, yeah, this 00:40:47.670 --> 00:40:53.949 is the point that we need to be doing what Jesus 00:40:53.949 --> 00:40:56.840 did. Because, you know, there's a place where 00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.400 he has spoken something in the synagogue in Nazareth, 00:41:00.500 --> 00:41:03.539 and it made everybody upset because he's really 00:41:03.539 --> 00:41:06.119 just declared himself to be the Messiah. And 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:07.780 everybody's all upset, and they're going to take 00:41:07.780 --> 00:41:09.380 him to the edge of the cliff and throw him off. 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.420 And then it just says he passed between them. 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.760 Yeah, passed through them. He walked through 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.420 the crowd. Yeah, he walked through the crowd. 00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:20.000 Well, how do you do that and not be apprehended? 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.760 You know, there had to be some kind of supernatural 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.719 something. And then there's the time when he's 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.559 walked on the water and he gets into the boat 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.739 and instantly they're at their destination. That's 00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:35.840 translation. So Jesus said, the works that I 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:40.579 do shall you do also and greater works. So we 00:41:40.579 --> 00:41:43.960 just need to allow the Holy Spirit to expand 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:50.059 our spiritual mind. To begin to embrace him. 00:41:50.539 --> 00:41:54.460 Now, just before we close, let's talk for a moment 00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:59.619 about relationship in relationship to this. Relationship 00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:02.400 with the Lord. Can you just expound a little 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.059 on that? Because I know that this is critical. 00:42:04.699 --> 00:42:06.840 How can two walk together unless they be agreed? 00:42:07.219 --> 00:42:09.840 Yeah. How can you be in agreement if you don't 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.619 know somebody? Right. How do you ever get to 00:42:12.619 --> 00:42:14.480 know somebody if you never spend time with them? 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.639 Right. You've heard this expression, armchair 00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:20.880 quarterbacks. We have a lot of religious armchair 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.820 quarterbacks that think they have all the answers 00:42:23.820 --> 00:42:26.820 when they have nothing. They have head knowledge 00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:30.760 or an intellectual assent to a written document, 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.440 not a relational revelation. And so relationship 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.519 is so important because the Lord does not entrust 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.780 the secrets of the kingdom to those who don't 00:42:42.780 --> 00:42:46.139 know him. Right. So if you want to walk in the 00:42:46.139 --> 00:42:48.900 deeper realms of kingdom life, you must spend 00:42:48.900 --> 00:42:52.659 time with the author of life. And so that he 00:42:52.659 --> 00:42:55.659 becomes your most intimate acquaintance, your 00:42:55.659 --> 00:42:57.960 best friend, your Lord, your King, your God. 00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:01.039 Not just somebody that's in the periphery of 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.719 your acquaintance list, you know. We all say, 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.880 oh, I've got a lot of friends, but how many true 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.400 friends do you really have? So that's the whole 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.860 point. We pushed religion rather than focused 00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:17.039 on relationship. Exactly. And that is the most 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.820 important thing in the life of a believer, is 00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:23.059 developing a passionate relationship with the 00:43:23.059 --> 00:43:26.320 living God. That's why he came and died, so we 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.260 could have that. Exactly. So anything less than 00:43:29.260 --> 00:43:32.880 that is really snubbing or doing despot to the 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.820 very fact, the reason he came. It's like, well, 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.599 whatever. What is it? Familiarity breeds contempt. 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.940 Yeah. And so he's always taught me that relationship 00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:49.019 is more important than anything else. Yes. I've 00:43:49.019 --> 00:43:50.599 just watched it over the years, not only for 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.539 myself. This is where I've got to start. But 00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:56.260 then you can start recognizing what's the motive 00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:59.519 for a lot of people being in ministry. Wow. Well, 00:43:59.539 --> 00:44:02.320 you can watch how they conduct themselves in 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.920 ministry and you begin to recognize, okay, what's 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.849 the hook? Is it money? Is it prestige? Is it 00:44:09.849 --> 00:44:11.530 I'm going to be a success? I'm going to have 00:44:11.530 --> 00:44:14.570 the biggest, the best? Or is it out of a love 00:44:14.570 --> 00:44:18.449 for God? Right. That's the difference. The greatest 00:44:18.449 --> 00:44:22.650 warriors, the most profound reflections of Christ 00:44:22.650 --> 00:44:25.190 are the hidden ones that walk with him day in 00:44:25.190 --> 00:44:27.329 and day out without needing the accolades or 00:44:27.329 --> 00:44:29.889 the recognition of the world. And so there are 00:44:29.889 --> 00:44:32.489 so many people having translocation or kingdom 00:44:32.489 --> 00:44:35.719 experiences. that we never hear because they 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.599 don't share them. They don't cast their pearls 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:43.039 before swine. Once they recognize that others 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.280 have that, then they can begin to share because 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:48.639 now we're on common ground. And I've had so many 00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.340 people finally share their testimonies because 00:44:51.340 --> 00:44:54.519 they go, oh, you understand. We were talking 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.320 about Dean Braxton. When I first met Dean just 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.260 shortly after his experience, I was fascinated 00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:05.420 because I've studied these. for years i said 00:45:05.420 --> 00:45:07.500 so tell me about your experience he said i can't 00:45:07.500 --> 00:45:10.599 i said what do you mean he said the lord said 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.659 if you don't ask a question i'm not i can't answer 00:45:12.659 --> 00:45:16.480 it well okay so what about this did you see yeah 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.179 and how about yeah and you know i think that 00:45:20.179 --> 00:45:23.219 oh you you've been there yeah yeah yeah so then 00:45:23.219 --> 00:45:26.320 now we had common ground now he could share right 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.920 and i believe that's the way it is with a lot 00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.179 of seasoned saints that know not to just you 00:45:32.179 --> 00:45:35.070 know throw things out Yeah. So it's relationship. 00:45:35.829 --> 00:45:38.929 Absolutely. And on the other hand, concerning 00:45:38.929 --> 00:45:42.030 relationship, concerning discernment, I would 00:45:42.030 --> 00:45:47.050 say also that we all know that supernatural has 00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:50.630 become a catchphrase in Christendom now. Let's 00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:54.010 say for the past 15 years, we have so many books 00:45:54.010 --> 00:45:57.539 written. We have so many. material out there 00:45:57.539 --> 00:46:00.400 videos people having supernatural experiences 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.519 they talk about visiting with angels seeing angels 00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.480 going to heaven meeting saints meeting jesus 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.840 all this but how are we to discern and in the 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.139 in the bible it talks about in book of hebrews 00:46:13.139 --> 00:46:16.500 chapter 5 verse 14 but strong meat belongs to 00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:19.340 them that are full of age even those who by reason 00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:22.900 of use their senses exercise to discern both 00:46:22.900 --> 00:46:27.909 good and evil so Are we able to discern people 00:46:27.909 --> 00:46:30.489 who are sharing? I'm not saying that God cannot 00:46:30.489 --> 00:46:33.190 do these things. Yes, he does. Bible is full 00:46:33.190 --> 00:46:37.030 of it. But Bible also cautions us to be able 00:46:37.030 --> 00:46:40.030 to discern the spirits they are operating from 00:46:40.030 --> 00:46:42.590 because there are also a lot of lying signs, 00:46:42.730 --> 00:46:44.909 wonders, and miracles. That's right. And the 00:46:44.909 --> 00:46:47.170 Bible even talks about that the enemy can come 00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:50.889 as an angel of light. So we have to spend that 00:46:50.889 --> 00:46:54.429 time with the Lord. Even in book of Matthew chapter 00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:57.929 24, the Lord, when the disciples came to him 00:46:57.929 --> 00:46:59.989 and asked him, tell us the signs of the last 00:46:59.989 --> 00:47:04.349 days. And the very first thing the Lord talked 00:47:04.349 --> 00:47:07.630 about, see that you will not be deceived. Amen. 00:47:07.969 --> 00:47:12.250 Deception. There is so much deception in the 00:47:12.250 --> 00:47:15.510 world today and in the church today. And then 00:47:15.510 --> 00:47:18.289 he went on to say there will be rumors of wars. 00:47:18.389 --> 00:47:21.590 There will be all these natural things. But the 00:47:21.590 --> 00:47:25.289 very first thing that you are not deceived, you 00:47:25.289 --> 00:47:27.809 know, there are false prophets, false teachers. 00:47:28.699 --> 00:47:31.199 coming and deceiving people. So we've got to 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.360 be able to discern in this hour. So that's where 00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:36.239 the teaching of discernment comes in because 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.800 we talk a lot in the school also about supernatural 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.659 things. But we've got to be able to discern right 00:47:42.659 --> 00:47:44.900 and wrong, good and evil, right spirit and wrong 00:47:44.900 --> 00:47:48.179 spirit. It's so important. We see it everywhere. 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.179 It's just amazing to see the deception out there. 00:47:51.340 --> 00:47:54.320 Right. And especially with AI being what it is 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.400 and gaining more ground, there's so much, so 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:03.320 much that AI can counterfeit. Yeah. And one of 00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.639 the things that I quickly say, if we have time, 00:48:05.699 --> 00:48:10.159 is it's called digital harvesting. So what happens 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.389 is AI prophecies. So what is happening is that 00:48:14.389 --> 00:48:17.210 people going online, if you have put any information 00:48:17.210 --> 00:48:20.550 about yourself online, they will go harvest that. 00:48:20.670 --> 00:48:24.610 They will see all the videos or maybe you put 00:48:24.610 --> 00:48:26.670 in your happiness. You've been through something 00:48:26.670 --> 00:48:29.210 and they find out all this information about 00:48:29.210 --> 00:48:32.170 you online. And then they contact you online 00:48:32.170 --> 00:48:34.690 and they will try to give you a word of prophecy. 00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:38.449 And people are buying into it. Yeah, there was 00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:42.280 a woman that actually. asked the AI for a prophetic 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.440 word. Oh no, she had a tongue and she wanted 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:48.500 an interpretation. And so she thought, oh, let's 00:48:48.500 --> 00:48:51.360 do this. And the AI interpreted it and she said 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.639 it was spot on. And so now she's pushing, we 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.239 need to do this. Encouraging people to ask AI. 00:48:58.860 --> 00:49:01.840 And it's not the Spirit of God. There are people 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.260 not getting things from the Spirit of God, from 00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:07.519 AI. And now pastors are using AI just for messages. 00:49:07.619 --> 00:49:10.159 They don't even study anymore. So how do you 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.659 discern that? Is this the gospel according to 00:49:12.659 --> 00:49:15.039 a computer or the gospel according to the kingdom? 00:49:15.340 --> 00:49:19.780 Right. So, yes, we have to discern. Yes. Absolutely. 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:24.320 And character is the tell. Yep. Yep. Go there. 00:49:24.579 --> 00:49:27.679 Talk about that. In the class, we are going to 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.579 go through and look at discernment from all angles. 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.139 We are going to talk about it. We are going to 00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:35.800 have question and answer sessions on it. And 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.280 it's going to be amazing. Yeah. Well, instead 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.699 of me going into great detail, you know, we teach 00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:45.619 about character, the character of Christ. Yes. 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.619 Jesus said, I come in my Father's name. That 00:49:47.619 --> 00:49:49.500 word name means character, honor, and authority. 00:49:50.019 --> 00:49:52.800 We're to come in Christ's name. We pray in his 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.760 name. We do these works in his name. That means 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.280 his character. Yes. And without character, you're 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:05.099 not going to have kingdom. Yep. So that's in 00:50:05.099 --> 00:50:07.440 a nutshell. I actually just wrote a booklet on 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.219 that. Oh. So, yeah, we'll get you some of those, 00:50:10.219 --> 00:50:13.260 too. Good. Good. So you've written a number of 00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:18.320 books. How can people get your books? Amazon, 00:50:18.539 --> 00:50:21.800 our website, your bookstore. Yes, we do have 00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:25.239 some in our bookstore. Yeah. You also have a 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.579 website. What's your website? Stillwatersinternationalmissions 00:50:28.579 --> 00:50:33.199 .com. Stillwatersinternationalmissions .com. 00:50:33.659 --> 00:50:36.139 Okay, we'll put a link to that. And we'll also 00:50:36.139 --> 00:50:39.840 put a link to some of our previous episodes with 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:44.340 the two of you and let people enjoy that. So 00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.380 we're really looking forward to having you with 00:50:47.380 --> 00:50:50.579 us. And of course, there will be a link to the 00:50:50.579 --> 00:50:53.099 event page where we have the school so that people 00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:56.019 that are interested can read all about it and 00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:59.059 say, hey, I'm coming and click on that register 00:50:59.059 --> 00:51:03.559 button and be there, be here with us. And I just 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.099 sensed, you know, by the Spirit of God, this 00:51:05.099 --> 00:51:07.059 year when we taught the other three schools, 00:51:07.340 --> 00:51:10.420 I had a great expectation that the Lord was releasing 00:51:10.420 --> 00:51:13.679 something new. And this has been building all 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.920 year, so I really have an expectancy on this 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:18.420 school that something is going to be released. 00:51:19.260 --> 00:51:22.599 I don't know exactly what, and it might be, but 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.639 it's going to be interesting. I'm coming expecting. 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.920 Yeah, we're expecting too. Practical things that 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.219 I like to mention is about this school at Global 00:51:33.219 --> 00:51:36.719 Outpouring. A lot of people don't get this information 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:41.110 is that it is one of the best places. that we 00:51:41.110 --> 00:51:43.829 venues that we like to come because everything 00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:47.150 is on one compound. You have the school there 00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:50.489 and you also have a place to sleep. So you don't 00:51:50.489 --> 00:51:52.670 have to be running around and, you know, stress 00:51:52.670 --> 00:51:56.130 going to hotels and stuff and also meals. So 00:51:56.130 --> 00:51:59.130 everything is in one compound and it's a beautiful 00:51:59.130 --> 00:52:02.369 property, a great place for morning walks and 00:52:02.369 --> 00:52:04.869 stuff like that. It's a, it's a best deal. That's 00:52:04.869 --> 00:52:06.670 what I have to say. I love it. We'll keep the 00:52:06.670 --> 00:52:12.349 bears on leashes. Yeah, there are bears. Yeah, 00:52:12.469 --> 00:52:14.349 we actually do have bears. We have air horns, 00:52:14.369 --> 00:52:17.889 though. Yeah. They're not going to come around 00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:20.250 when there's a lot of people around. I don't 00:52:20.250 --> 00:52:22.090 think we'll see them. They're not grizzlies like 00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:25.309 you get up. No, no, no. We have authority. That's 00:52:25.309 --> 00:52:27.809 true. We all get to eat together. It's pretty 00:52:27.809 --> 00:52:30.829 awesome. Beautiful. Well, Bruce, would you pray 00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:33.570 for our listeners before we close? I'd be honored. 00:52:33.610 --> 00:52:36.610 Father, we thank you for this time together where 00:52:36.610 --> 00:52:41.340 we... We touched on many things. But I ask you, 00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:43.760 Father, to stir the hearts of those who are listening, 00:52:43.900 --> 00:52:48.820 to pursue you through your word, through prayer, 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.000 through worship, and through quiet times, just 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.260 waiting on you. In this hour, Father, it's imperative 00:52:56.260 --> 00:52:59.619 that we know you. Yes. More than any other time 00:52:59.619 --> 00:53:02.119 in the history of mankind, this is the final 00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:07.570 moments. So we must be close with you. And so 00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:11.110 I pray a grace come upon everybody that is hearing 00:53:11.110 --> 00:53:15.170 this podcast and an activation within them of 00:53:15.170 --> 00:53:17.210 the things that you have been building in them 00:53:17.210 --> 00:53:20.510 for years. And I thank you, Father, for this. 00:53:20.769 --> 00:53:33.090 In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. 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