WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.459 I walk into the Three -Self Church. It was singing, 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:08.679 What a good friend of Jesus. Wow. That choir 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:13.160 singing. You know what? I teared, pouring out 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.980 like rain. I cried for, non -stop crying for 00:00:16.980 --> 00:00:19.859 three days. Wow. I believe that's born again, 00:00:20.059 --> 00:00:23.339 you know. I just, everywhere I go, I cried. I 00:00:23.339 --> 00:00:27.140 just saw the beautiful flower, everything beautiful. 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:39.259 God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit 00:00:39.259 --> 00:00:43.060 on all humanity. Welcome to Global Outpouring, 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.380 where we contend for that promise outpouring, 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:49.280 we equip for that outpouring so that we may engage 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.979 in that very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And 00:00:52.979 --> 00:00:55.670 I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. 00:00:55.810 --> 00:01:00.250 We have with us our special guests, Esther Annie 00:01:00.250 --> 00:01:05.280 Halberg and her sister Lois. They are from China 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:10.519 and they have amazing stories. So we're going 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:15.379 to do two episodes with them to bring you their 00:01:15.379 --> 00:01:19.319 stories. They have just been such a blessing 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.159 to us. And we want to encourage you to enjoy 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:28.019 this as Annie shares her story of finding meaning 00:01:28.019 --> 00:01:35.540 in life in communist China. We're so glad that 00:01:35.540 --> 00:01:38.500 you've joined us today. Thank you so much. We 00:01:38.500 --> 00:01:41.420 would love to hear from you. 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There's 00:02:11.740 --> 00:02:14.180 so many things on our website that you can enjoy, 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.400 and we want to make sure, if you haven't already 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.699 done so, that you have subscribed to our email 00:02:19.699 --> 00:02:22.639 lists, because that's how we can stay in touch 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.800 with you. If other forms of communication don't 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.139 work for some reason, it could happen, it could 00:02:29.139 --> 00:02:31.840 happen. This is a really good way for us to be 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.500 able to stay in touch with you. Well, it's a 00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:38.280 delight to have with us Esther Annie Halberg 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.979 and Lois Wong, they're sisters. And you came 00:02:41.979 --> 00:02:45.240 with a whole team from New Zealand and China. 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.520 What an amazing combination even to have. But 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.680 you're Chinese and you came to New Zealand. That's 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.650 a story in itself. I don't know how much of the 00:02:55.650 --> 00:02:57.750 stories we'll be able to tell today, but we've 00:02:57.750 --> 00:03:00.949 known each other for a number of years, and we 00:03:00.949 --> 00:03:02.729 really appreciate you coming to the convention. 00:03:02.930 --> 00:03:05.469 So welcome to the Global Outpouring Podcast. 00:03:05.969 --> 00:03:10.069 Thank you so much. I'm honored to be here. So 00:03:10.069 --> 00:03:14.789 I would love to go back to the story of how you 00:03:14.789 --> 00:03:18.930 got connected to this ministry, how you met Sister 00:03:18.930 --> 00:03:23.539 Gwen Shaw, our founder. Oh, wow. Yes, I came 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:28.919 to the U .S. in 2008. Actually, I worked for 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:34.080 another organization. So I was invited to attend 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:41.639 the presidential prayer breakfast for Bush. Yeah, 00:03:41.819 --> 00:03:45.979 he's a prudential preceptor. And then during 00:03:45.979 --> 00:03:50.259 that break, I just saw one lady came out with 00:03:50.259 --> 00:03:54.000 me on the wheelchair. And another lady pushed 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:59.180 her, so she asked me in Chinese, Are you from 00:03:59.180 --> 00:04:04.360 Inner Mongolia? I said, yes. I was surprised. 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.539 How do you know that? Then she said, do you know 00:04:08.539 --> 00:04:12.960 Mongolia Wang Ye? Wang Ye means the Mongolia 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.319 king. I said, oh, I was born in Mongolia Wang 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:21.480 Ye King's Palace. Then she said, wow, you know, 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:25.660 she'd given me her name card. And she said, is 00:04:25.660 --> 00:04:28.819 the one year still alive? I said, no, I even 00:04:28.819 --> 00:04:33.050 don't know. That name card brought us together. 00:04:33.290 --> 00:04:39.189 I had to wait for one year, and then I came to 00:04:39.189 --> 00:04:44.589 Angletown. That year, I experienced brokenness. 00:04:45.250 --> 00:04:48.949 Physically, my ovary was broken. I had three 00:04:48.949 --> 00:04:52.250 -quarters of my blood poured out. Yeah, I was 00:04:52.250 --> 00:04:56.490 facing almost death. Physically, spiritually, 00:04:56.970 --> 00:05:02.949 I got a breakthrough. white skin, and it's like 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:07.230 a rebirth, you know. Wow. Yeah, so after that, 00:05:07.310 --> 00:05:11.230 it took me half a year to restore, you know, 00:05:11.250 --> 00:05:14.910 my physical body is so weak, I have to drink 00:05:14.910 --> 00:05:17.769 in the liquid for a month, chicken soup, you 00:05:17.769 --> 00:05:20.209 know. I got a sister who came from New Zealand 00:05:20.209 --> 00:05:24.699 to look after me. Gradually, when I was getting 00:05:24.699 --> 00:05:28.899 better, I was invited to a women's group who 00:05:28.899 --> 00:05:34.379 studied the 12 tribes of Israel. I was really 00:05:34.379 --> 00:05:37.620 fascinated. I had been coming from an underground 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:41.480 church in New Zealand. I found a Chinese church. 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.839 Always in the church, never heard about the Israel 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:51.980 or tribal. So I studied that book. find my first 00:05:51.980 --> 00:05:55.199 tribe, Zebulun, you know. I said, who is that 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.199 woman? Grandshaw wrote such a fantastic book, 00:05:59.379 --> 00:06:02.939 you know. Then I went back home and find out 00:06:02.939 --> 00:06:05.519 the name card Sister Grandshaw gave to me. I 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.100 said, oh, that's the same lady I met at the presidential 00:06:09.100 --> 00:06:12.939 prayer breakfast. Then the Midland people said, 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.620 wow, you know, she's a very, she's a very anointed 00:06:17.620 --> 00:06:20.899 woman. He said, you got to meet with her. So 00:06:20.899 --> 00:06:24.300 everybody started calling, you know, Anton Handmaiden. 00:06:24.500 --> 00:06:27.519 Yeah, so Sister Granshaw said, come here, come 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:31.500 here. Yeah, so I made a day I drove to Little 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:34.980 Rock. Oh, no, I flew to Little Rock and hired 00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:39.240 the car. But for me, coming to Angletown, also 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:43.160 I had to break through so much because that day 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:48.519 was... I was lost so many times. I drove like 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.500 four or five hours from Little Rock. It's only 00:06:51.500 --> 00:06:52.560 two and a half hours drive. I don't have GPS. 00:06:53.060 --> 00:06:56.439 I drove on the mountain, my driving skills. School 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.040 is not that good. I was so afraid that suddenly 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:04.300 the fog, you know, come. I couldn't see anything 00:07:04.300 --> 00:07:06.800 on the narrow road. I said, oh, my goodness, 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:11.259 Lord, help me. I cry out to God. I turned, opened 00:07:11.259 --> 00:07:14.600 four windows, and it was in November. It was 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:19.899 so freezing. Oh, yes. My finger can't move. Anyway, 00:07:20.060 --> 00:07:23.540 I just heard the Lord said. bring out your wind, 00:07:23.740 --> 00:07:28.160 fly like an eagle. Wow. I just realized I come 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:32.839 to the eagle rock. So finally I arrived. I think 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.259 Philip, you went to pick me up. And from there, 00:07:36.339 --> 00:07:41.339 I just came down to the valley. Wow. I feel like 00:07:41.339 --> 00:07:45.279 a whole new world waiting for me. Wow. It was. 00:07:45.620 --> 00:07:51.240 Yeah. It was like nine o 'clock. She's expecting. 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.600 me for dinner but I was because I was lost and 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:58.519 I tried to find then she sang the song Jesus 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:08.319 love you I all know in Chinese I cried I cried 00:08:10.380 --> 00:08:14.439 Then Sister Grandshasha just told you, record 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.680 everything Annie said. Oh, wow. I feel so honored. 00:08:18.980 --> 00:08:23.879 I thought nobody had come here. She always honored 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:28.040 me. That makes me feel like, wow, I must be important. 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:33.200 Then I stayed here for three days, and she began 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:38.159 to ask you to take out the old photo album. Oh, 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.990 yes. Like every day I look at the photo. She 00:08:41.990 --> 00:08:45.750 shared all the story from the birth, from the 00:08:45.750 --> 00:08:49.210 baby photo. Until, you know, she was in China, 00:08:49.330 --> 00:08:53.289 in India, like her whole life. And laying in 00:08:53.289 --> 00:08:56.029 front of me, I just heard that God said, look, 00:08:56.129 --> 00:08:58.830 this is your spiritual mother. Beautiful. If 00:08:58.830 --> 00:09:03.149 I can make her to live a life like that, I can 00:09:03.149 --> 00:09:06.129 give you the same life. Beautiful, beautiful. 00:09:06.210 --> 00:09:09.190 Even greater. So I feel I always. feel like I 00:09:09.190 --> 00:09:12.190 was unworthy, but I was so encouraged. And she 00:09:12.190 --> 00:09:15.950 gave me her biography book. And yeah, when I 00:09:15.950 --> 00:09:18.710 returned home, I immediately started reading, 00:09:18.850 --> 00:09:21.769 even on the airplane. I never read an English 00:09:21.769 --> 00:09:25.909 book within one week, but that's the only book 00:09:25.909 --> 00:09:30.210 I read in one week. I read her story about, you 00:09:30.210 --> 00:09:34.190 know, she took the $10 to go to China, go to 00:09:34.190 --> 00:09:38.220 Mongolia, go to Alashan. That's my hometown area. 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:43.159 So I began to realize that I was her prayer fruit, 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:47.519 you know. After 20 years, she laid down herself 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:51.559 in my hometown. I was born, you know. Yeah, she 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.639 told me she had poured out so much tea in my 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.799 hometown, you know. But that, yeah, that's such 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:02.879 a dark time and no believer in that. I remember 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.460 she said when she was there, You know, sometimes 00:10:06.460 --> 00:10:08.980 being so lonely, she'd just take her accordion 00:10:08.980 --> 00:10:12.320 and sing every song in the book, you know, with 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.840 her accordion. Yeah, because she was so lonely, 00:10:14.860 --> 00:10:18.139 far from home. Yeah, far from home, yeah. Yeah, 00:10:18.659 --> 00:10:23.220 wow. Yeah, so one thing I was so surprised, she 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:26.299 has such a good memory, you know. She says she's 00:10:26.299 --> 00:10:30.039 that time, 83 or something like that. And she 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.740 can call that person's name even back to 50 years 00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:39.779 ago. I was fascinated. So after that, I realized 00:10:39.779 --> 00:10:44.080 that God wanted me to bring her back to China. 00:10:44.509 --> 00:10:48.549 because she told me China is my first love and 00:10:48.549 --> 00:10:52.809 China is also my last love. So I just really 00:10:52.809 --> 00:10:58.110 feel like I came here for a mission. I was chosen 00:10:58.110 --> 00:11:01.769 to prepare for her. So because of that, I had 00:11:01.769 --> 00:11:04.590 to leave the U .S. because I planned to live 00:11:04.590 --> 00:11:08.090 here for a long time. Then I tried to reapply 00:11:08.090 --> 00:11:12.779 my visa. Mark Bruce, who had to write a book 00:11:12.779 --> 00:11:16.240 for helping me to get a visa. Three times they 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.240 denied. So I realized that God wanted me to go 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.519 back to China. So I went back to China for two 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.600 years, just major preparing for her return to 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:33.340 China. outpouring, pouring out the Holy Spirit 00:11:33.340 --> 00:11:38.059 again. When 60 years ago, she's an intercessor, 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:42.440 laid down, giving birth to China. 60 years later, 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.919 and then God used her as like a spiritual mother, 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.899 you know, to raise up all the children and anoint 00:11:49.899 --> 00:11:52.960 them to be Antonian maiden servant to do the 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:57.629 harvest work. Yes, yes. So that's 2010. Sister 00:11:57.629 --> 00:12:01.610 Granshaw came to you all, you know, came to Beijing. 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:06.039 And then we had seven men who did this. 40 days 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:10.419 fast. Wow. So I didn't know any of them. And 00:12:10.419 --> 00:12:13.960 it was God. That meeting, really, God brought 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.059 together 300, you know, all the underground church 00:12:18.059 --> 00:12:22.080 leaders, the orphans, the saints, you know, come 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.139 together. It was beautiful. Yeah, it was beautiful. 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:28.419 She just preached about it. Oh, she was welcomed 00:12:28.419 --> 00:12:32.000 by the 100 underground church, you know, all 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.480 the peasants. They brought a drum. And the. trumpet. 00:12:37.740 --> 00:12:40.639 So in those days, we haven't got that long trumpet, 00:12:40.820 --> 00:12:43.960 but they got that do, do, do, do, do, that kind 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.120 of trumpet, you know, and they blow the trumpet 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:51.620 and they beat the drum when the army arrived, 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.399 they came in, that like lift up the gate of China 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.899 in the capital city and welcome her because that 00:12:58.899 --> 00:13:02.320 was God, that really from God recognized who 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.899 she is and she had, you know, poured her heart 00:13:05.899 --> 00:13:11.870 to. In the 1940s. Yeah, 1947. Yeah. So this is 00:13:11.870 --> 00:13:16.590 60 years later. And yeah, so after Beijing, the 00:13:16.590 --> 00:13:19.889 convention, I remember everything she shared 00:13:19.889 --> 00:13:23.269 on the convention is the end time, open a book 00:13:23.269 --> 00:13:26.190 of end time. So remember she talked about the 00:13:26.190 --> 00:13:29.669 revelation, the four horses, you know, chapter 00:13:29.669 --> 00:13:33.730 six and the four horses. Even she said, and I 00:13:33.730 --> 00:13:37.909 never... preached on the four horses in my life. 00:13:37.970 --> 00:13:43.909 It was like open the end time, the scroll. So 00:13:43.909 --> 00:13:48.450 after that, we brought her all the way to Inner 00:13:48.450 --> 00:13:51.289 Mongolia, after Beijing to Inner Mongolia. We 00:13:51.289 --> 00:13:56.129 went to Great War. Everything about taking the 00:13:56.129 --> 00:14:00.429 Chinese Christian to another level. And they 00:14:00.429 --> 00:14:03.629 united their heart through that end time handmaiden, 00:14:03.629 --> 00:14:07.220 the mother's heart. So until we went back to 00:14:07.220 --> 00:14:11.639 find her first mission, you know, in Alashan. 00:14:11.740 --> 00:14:15.679 Yes. Yeah, that little town when she started 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:19.590 the Bible school for two years. And that was 00:14:19.590 --> 00:14:23.370 another miracle. And we tried to look for the 00:14:23.370 --> 00:14:26.629 school. We saw the school must not exist, you 00:14:26.629 --> 00:14:32.750 know, 60 years. And we have no any clue. Yeah, 00:14:32.850 --> 00:14:37.389 we just settled in the hotel. Then I have a picture 00:14:37.389 --> 00:14:40.909 Sister Granshaw showing me. And she was with 00:14:40.909 --> 00:14:44.090 the early church leader, the Bible school, the 00:14:44.090 --> 00:14:47.340 student. And she and her first husband, they 00:14:47.340 --> 00:14:50.299 were the only white people. So I have seen that 00:14:50.299 --> 00:14:53.539 picture. She brought that picture with her. She 00:14:53.539 --> 00:14:56.860 brought it with her? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's how 00:14:56.860 --> 00:14:59.179 I recognized. Yes. Yeah, that's quite amazing. 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:02.179 Then I and Peter in that morning when we settled 00:15:02.179 --> 00:15:05.940 down in the hotel, we said, Oh, Lord, direct 00:15:05.940 --> 00:15:10.179 us to find that Bible school and find that church. 00:15:10.620 --> 00:15:13.980 She only told us. She told me this is Pastor 00:15:13.980 --> 00:15:19.039 Gao because when she left Mingxie and she committed 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.799 the Bible college to her student. pastor go. 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.940 He become in charge. She's in charge. You know, 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.440 all the missionary left because Sister Granshaw 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:32.559 is the last missionary left. Yeah. So, she only 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:36.220 know he didn't pastor go. So, we get on the text, 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.100 text driver ask, where do you want to go? We 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:42.059 said, oh, we'll take her to church. He said, 00:15:42.179 --> 00:15:45.320 oh, there's several, three self church, government 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.500 church. Which one do you want to go? We just 00:15:47.500 --> 00:15:51.139 said, any church you lead us, you know. And, 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.340 Then she drove us to one of the churches, and 00:15:54.340 --> 00:15:57.320 we knocked the door. The pastor came out. He 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.799 said, who are you looking for? We said, Pastor 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.440 Gao. He said, I am Pastor Gao. That was God. 00:16:04.139 --> 00:16:08.759 God led you. She led us into his office, and 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:12.779 I suddenly found the same picture Sister Granshaw 00:16:12.779 --> 00:16:17.440 brought. That picture is on his desk under the 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:24.649 thick glass. Wow. Wow. It was almost like, wow, 00:16:24.929 --> 00:16:28.549 how much chance you got. We're just pointing 00:16:28.549 --> 00:16:32.230 that. We said, do you know that white lady? He 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:37.009 said, yes, she's our teacher. Grand, she said, 00:16:37.070 --> 00:16:40.750 grand. She said, how is she? I haven't seen her 00:16:40.750 --> 00:16:45.210 for 60 years. And we said, she's here in this 00:16:45.210 --> 00:16:49.470 town, hotel. He almost jumped. He said, oh, take 00:16:49.470 --> 00:16:53.029 me, take me to see her. Yeah, we just said, we'll 00:16:53.029 --> 00:16:56.549 bring her to this place. We said, where's Bible 00:16:56.549 --> 00:16:59.470 school? He said, here, this is the Bible school. 00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:02.350 So it was still operating as a church? Yes, still 00:17:02.350 --> 00:17:06.049 the Bible school. Wow. We said, wow. 60 years 00:17:06.049 --> 00:17:08.230 later, it's still running. Still Bible. Glory 00:17:08.230 --> 00:17:10.829 to God. Yeah, amazing. He said the communism 00:17:10.829 --> 00:17:14.869 has confiscated, but later on they returned to 00:17:14.869 --> 00:17:18.430 the church. Wow. So everything like restored. 00:17:19.349 --> 00:17:23.670 Glory to God. Wow. We said, oh, in the afternoon, 00:17:23.730 --> 00:17:26.710 something about like 3 o 'clock, we'll come to 00:17:26.710 --> 00:17:29.269 see you. He said, give me a time. I'm going to 00:17:29.269 --> 00:17:33.769 call all these students, all the pastors to come. 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:38.849 There were about 20. Yeah, 20 of them came. Some 00:17:38.849 --> 00:17:42.069 of them had to take a bus for one or two hours. 00:17:42.650 --> 00:17:46.950 And so, yeah, when they all stood in the yard, 00:17:47.130 --> 00:17:49.569 you know, when Sister Granshaw walked into it, 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.759 me and went up to the, yeah, because they told 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:59.640 me that they got a piano. Organ. Organ. Nobody 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.259 can play. It was like broken. He said the government 00:18:04.259 --> 00:18:08.380 returned to them a few months ago. It was like 00:18:08.380 --> 00:18:11.700 70 years old, you know. Yeah. They were given 00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:15.359 by the missionary from other countries. Yeah. 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.099 But anyway, he said the grandchild had played 00:18:18.099 --> 00:18:23.400 this. teaching them how to sing songs. And yeah, 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.440 she's a very good musician. So Tommy started 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:31.400 playing the song, you know, with the organ. Wow. 00:18:31.619 --> 00:18:34.700 So that moment, they just divide appointment 00:18:34.700 --> 00:18:39.170 and Sister Greenshaw came in and... I just remember 00:18:39.170 --> 00:18:42.869 the wind blowing. Everybody stood up. We were 00:18:42.869 --> 00:18:46.789 all in tears. We all cried, you know, just having 00:18:46.789 --> 00:18:51.430 visited after 60 years. And Sister Granshaw just 00:18:51.430 --> 00:18:55.029 asked how the students, my students, are they 00:18:55.029 --> 00:18:59.190 alive? They said no one is missing, no one died, 00:18:59.410 --> 00:19:03.089 no one was killed. They are all alive. They all 00:19:03.089 --> 00:19:06.430 did a great mission work, you know. different 00:19:06.430 --> 00:19:10.849 area, region. And I said, ask this pastor, how 00:19:10.849 --> 00:19:13.730 many church did you plant? He said, oh, several 00:19:13.730 --> 00:19:17.269 hundred. And how many people you minister in 00:19:17.269 --> 00:19:22.369 this area? Oh, he said 60 ,000. Yeah. 60 ,000? 00:19:22.430 --> 00:19:26.170 Yeah. In whole province, you know. Wow. He's 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:29.549 become like reverend, you know, the leading all 00:19:29.549 --> 00:19:33.869 this. They still sing the old hymn because they 00:19:33.869 --> 00:19:36.950 sing the old song. I know that. Mr. Simpson. 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:42.039 What is it? Oh, W .W. Simpson. Yeah, W .W. Simpson. 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:46.559 The songbook he wrote for them. Yeah, I read 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.140 it. I was crying, he said, because in the book 00:19:49.140 --> 00:19:54.240 it says, Ask the Lord, harvest 44 ,000 Chinese, 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:58.940 or 44 million Chinese. In those days, back to 00:19:58.940 --> 00:20:06.299 1920, 44 million Chinese. And crying. Wow, we 00:20:06.299 --> 00:20:08.509 just said that. It was really amazing. They're 00:20:08.509 --> 00:20:13.420 still seeing his hands. Wow. Wow. Then they have 00:20:13.420 --> 00:20:17.220 so much report. Then I remember Sister Gwen just 00:20:17.220 --> 00:20:21.839 sitting there. Fruit after fruit, fruit after 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.220 fruit. Beautiful. Yeah, so that trip is like 00:20:25.220 --> 00:20:31.099 such a fulfillment. She felt the joy. That's 00:20:31.099 --> 00:20:33.599 why when she returned, she felt like my mission 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.640 had completed. What did they call that? Your 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:39.599 swan song? Swan song. Swan song. Yeah, her swan 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.299 song tour. That's what she called it. Called 00:20:41.299 --> 00:20:45.230 it. So she started in China, and that was her 00:20:45.230 --> 00:20:48.950 last overseas trip, I think. Yeah, that was it. 00:20:49.349 --> 00:20:52.210 It was right after that, after she got home, 00:20:52.309 --> 00:20:55.309 she started going downhill. Yeah, yeah. We met 00:20:55.309 --> 00:20:58.470 so many Chinese people. They all said, oh, we're 00:20:58.470 --> 00:21:00.769 the end -time handmaidens. We have joined the 00:21:00.769 --> 00:21:03.670 Beijing conference, joined the Xi 'an conference. 00:21:03.809 --> 00:21:06.130 We're all end -time handmaidens. Remember once 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:11.779 you anointed 500 end -time handmaidens? And a 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:15.380 peasant, you know. Yes. Wow. After 10 years of 00:21:15.380 --> 00:21:19.180 visiting them, how you say, we're Anton's handmaidens. 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.319 Wow. We want to hear from Mama Grange Shaw. We 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:28.480 want to, yeah, to know where should we go, you 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.880 know. Wow. Yeah, they're very faithful, dedicated. 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:36.640 God, you know, using them as a harvest since 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:42.210 2010. They all become deeper. to censor warrior 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:46.890 and evangelist planting church all over China. 00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:50.930 Glory to God. Oh, many of them be said to the 00:21:50.930 --> 00:21:53.410 other nation, you know, like Brother Xiang who 00:21:53.410 --> 00:21:56.460 has a... According to our whole group, because 00:21:56.460 --> 00:21:59.240 he's the one pouring out so much finance, you 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:03.180 know, for almost, he give out all his saving 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:06.240 money, everything. Yeah, for that trip. And, 00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:09.319 you know, he wanted you guys stay in the five 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:13.279 -star hotel. He said, we want to honor Mama Grandshaw. 00:22:13.339 --> 00:22:16.799 We want to give her all the best, you know, so. 00:22:17.309 --> 00:22:21.349 They paid, oh, yes, thousands, thousands, thousands 00:22:21.349 --> 00:22:24.869 on that journey. So, but they, God reward them 00:22:24.869 --> 00:22:29.109 so much. Yeah. So now they, God sent them to 00:22:29.109 --> 00:22:32.009 all the Afghanistan, all the Muslim country. 00:22:32.210 --> 00:22:35.470 Actually, God give the Muslim country to them. 00:22:35.630 --> 00:22:39.769 They are also very faithful and time servant. 00:22:40.289 --> 00:22:44.329 They are in the harvest field for, yeah, those 00:22:44.329 --> 00:22:49.440 country. Other people cannot. God gives them 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:53.819 the permission, authority, anointing. Yeah, wow. 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.779 That's amazing. That's amazing. They can go where 00:22:56.779 --> 00:22:59.519 we can't. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, glory to 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.880 God. That's fantastic. Yeah, God will connect 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.299 us again one day. Yeah. And we'll, I mean, whether 00:23:06.299 --> 00:23:08.900 it's on this planet or when we get to heaven. 00:23:09.099 --> 00:23:12.619 What about the churches we were at, the orphanages? 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.819 That was in 2012. Anhui province. Anhui province. 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:20.420 Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's another fantastic story. 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:25.019 Remember that the orphan in, yeah, we raised 00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:28.900 up almost over 100 orphans. And the one -child 00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:34.140 policy created so many homeless children, abandoned 00:23:34.140 --> 00:23:38.259 baby. Yeah. Yeah. So the three families, three 00:23:38.259 --> 00:23:40.740 pastors, they pick up their children from the 00:23:40.740 --> 00:23:44.680 street, from the rubbish bin. Or some people 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.339 brought that baby to that door. It's really, 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.220 you know, heartbreaking story. Especially special 00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:53.160 needs children and girls. Yeah, and the girls. 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.380 And also someone has, you know, the paralyzed, 00:23:56.980 --> 00:24:01.019 yeah, and the sickness, you know. Yeah, the parents 00:24:01.019 --> 00:24:04.700 can't afford having that sick baby. Right. So 00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:08.180 they can't send to anybody else. Nobody wanted. 00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:14.059 So they put it at the door past the jail. He's 00:24:14.059 --> 00:24:17.440 the one. He raised up. He probably received a 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.839 hundred of them, even by himself. Some of them 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.619 died. Part of the reason I came to the U .S. 00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:27.960 is because God rescued my son, Moses, because 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.859 Moses was also the second child. We were not 00:24:30.859 --> 00:24:34.059 allowed to have him in China. So that's where 00:24:34.059 --> 00:24:38.920 God opened the miracle gate in 2001. I escaped 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.569 from China and went to New Zealand. for rescue 00:24:42.569 --> 00:24:45.349 Moses' life. That's why God gave him the name 00:24:45.349 --> 00:24:48.670 Moses. So because of that, God gave me a burden, 00:24:48.769 --> 00:24:52.349 a heart to rescue. He said, I rescued your child. 00:24:52.430 --> 00:24:55.690 Now you can rescue many Chinese children. Oh, 00:24:55.690 --> 00:24:59.269 beautiful. Yeah, I started that ministry right 00:24:59.269 --> 00:25:03.190 at the start of 2003. I met the three pastors, 00:25:03.210 --> 00:25:06.089 and actually we were having an underground church 00:25:06.089 --> 00:25:09.230 gathering, leadership gathering. Yeah, I saw 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:12.400 some of the elderly men. like a 60 -year -old, 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:16.259 hold a five -year -old girl. I said, your granddaughter? 00:25:16.539 --> 00:25:18.740 No, no, my daughter. I said, how did it come? 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:21.660 He said, oh, I picked her up from the street. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.819 Abandoned baby, I raised him. Then the next day, 00:25:25.859 --> 00:25:30.059 they show me the baby lying at the city gate, 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:35.099 at the city council's gate. That baby lying on 00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:38.009 the ground. That's making me heartbroken, you 00:25:38.009 --> 00:25:40.869 know. Sure. Some of the baby, maybe somebody 00:25:40.869 --> 00:25:44.410 pick up. Some of the baby, if not good, they 00:25:44.410 --> 00:25:48.130 just gradually died on the ground. So that night 00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:52.289 I said. I cry out. I call the pastor. We need 00:25:52.289 --> 00:25:54.970 to pick up all the children. You know, we need 00:25:54.970 --> 00:25:59.269 to. Then three pastors respond. Pastor Gal, Pastor 00:25:59.269 --> 00:26:03.450 Joe. Yeah, and two Pastor Joe. The other Pastor 00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:06.650 Joe is not a pastor. He just retired. He said, 00:26:06.750 --> 00:26:10.710 I'm retired. Now my brother is a pastor. I'm 00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:14.450 ignorant. I don't know how to preach. But God 00:26:14.450 --> 00:26:18.890 said, look after my little one. So that's his 00:26:18.890 --> 00:26:25.549 start of nature. He's raising up about 70. Wow. 00:26:25.609 --> 00:26:29.670 Yeah. So God gives them different. So the pastor 00:26:29.670 --> 00:26:32.549 Zhao, the first one, he got the most difficult 00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:35.650 children, all the babies, the handicapped, the 00:26:35.650 --> 00:26:38.710 paralyzed, you know, because my heart was so 00:26:38.710 --> 00:26:42.289 burning. This baby need to go to hospital. And 00:26:42.289 --> 00:26:47.250 each baby needed 10 ,000 yuan to be received 00:26:47.250 --> 00:26:51.380 for the treatment. 10 ,000 yuan. Yeah, 10 ,000 00:26:51.380 --> 00:27:10.069 yuan. What is that in American money? 1 ,300 00:27:10.069 --> 00:27:13.450 U .S. dollars. 1 ,300 U .S. dollars just to be 00:27:13.450 --> 00:27:16.470 able to get the child into the hospital. Yeah. 00:27:16.609 --> 00:27:21.009 Oh, those days in 2000, it's very evil, very 00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:25.829 cruel. They seen the pastor like begging them, 00:27:25.930 --> 00:27:29.190 kneeling on the floor, please rescue this baby. 00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:31.849 He said, it's none of your business. You should 00:27:31.849 --> 00:27:34.869 keep our government policy, you know. Oh, wow. 00:27:35.069 --> 00:27:37.839 You can't receive that baby. It's not yours. 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.440 You don't have permission. Yeah, this kind of, 00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:45.000 you know, people are so deceived. Their hearts 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.619 are cold. They don't have Jesus. That's the problem. 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:51.720 That's right. The reason I tried to raise up 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.200 funding in New Zealand, very difficult, you know. 00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:57.279 So that's part of the reason I began to understand 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:01.420 why God brought me to U .S. and to Midland Odessa. 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:06.119 Because Midland Odessa has lots of wealthy people. 00:28:06.259 --> 00:28:10.400 They support the charity. Their company has their 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.480 own charity company. So I started recruiting 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.049 the right people to support. The orphanage. So, 00:28:19.089 --> 00:28:22.269 yeah, very thankful for American people. And 00:28:22.269 --> 00:28:25.289 the part, Sister Granshaw had also helping me. 00:28:25.329 --> 00:28:28.250 Remember, she went to Odessa, Midland, just majored 00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:31.589 for raising up funds for the orphanage. I remember 00:28:31.589 --> 00:28:35.019 that. Yeah. So after this, how many years, 15 00:28:35.019 --> 00:28:38.859 years later, or during that time, we just, you 00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:42.680 know, sent missionaries from America, from New 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.819 Zealand, go to take care of all these orphans. 00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:50.500 We hold summer camps every year, baptize all 00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:54.440 their children. Eventually, more than 100 children 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.359 survived, and some died, you know. Some of them, 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:03.329 just government robbed them. Yeah, stealing them. 00:29:03.609 --> 00:29:06.410 Because the three orphanages are illegal. Yeah, 00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:09.769 government has done. So the government has some 00:29:09.769 --> 00:29:12.630 orphanages, right? Oh, yeah, government has orphanages, 00:29:12.630 --> 00:29:15.930 but it's like communism, you know. Yeah, totally. 00:29:16.430 --> 00:29:19.130 So these illegal orphanages were teaching the 00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:21.690 children about Jesus. I remember their faces 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:25.740 being so. Sweet and glowing with the joy of the 00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:27.420 Lord. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're growing 00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:30.759 up with Jesus in every orphanage and the pastor, 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.319 the father, they call them, the papa teaching 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.380 mama, teaching them Jesus and the praying. Yeah, 00:29:37.500 --> 00:29:39.900 there's so much miracle in the orphanage during 00:29:39.900 --> 00:29:42.259 that group because they have to hide, you know. 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:46.269 Yeah, they're very... living like underground 00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:49.490 totally. But they kind of tell people we have 00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.930 a need, you know, that's right. They keep everything 00:29:51.930 --> 00:29:56.269 quiet. So that's why they're just training that 00:29:56.269 --> 00:29:59.890 faith. They pray. He says sometimes people throw 00:29:59.890 --> 00:30:05.849 a bag of flour, you know, to the wall. That's 00:30:05.849 --> 00:30:08.910 kind of, yeah, then sometimes they hunger, they 00:30:08.910 --> 00:30:12.829 just fast. Yeah, so nowadays, last year we went 00:30:12.829 --> 00:30:16.450 to See, one of the orphanages, yeah, Papa Zhao, 00:30:16.650 --> 00:30:20.210 he's already 83 years old now. He still has two 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:25.390 young orphans, and they are like 13, 14, because 00:30:25.390 --> 00:30:28.930 they pick them up. One pick up from rubbish bin, 00:30:29.069 --> 00:30:34.250 another pick up from the toilet. Yeah, so they're 00:30:34.250 --> 00:30:37.710 too young. But all the other children, half of 00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:39.809 the children came back home because he said, 00:30:39.970 --> 00:30:42.750 Oh, Auntie, come back to us. I haven't seen them 00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:45.789 for years. So they all tried, you know, some 00:30:45.789 --> 00:30:49.549 take a train for 20 hours, 30 hours. They come 00:30:49.549 --> 00:30:54.150 to see me. I was just so amazed. All these young 00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:58.210 children, they still love Jesus, still have that 00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:02.289 shining, kind face. Beautiful. They do everything, 00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:05.789 you know. Very humble. They're doing very well 00:31:05.789 --> 00:31:09.509 whenever they're doing the work. The boss gives 00:31:09.509 --> 00:31:13.049 them a high praise. And a lot of them are already 00:31:13.049 --> 00:31:17.170 married and have children. So every year they 00:31:17.170 --> 00:31:20.750 come home for a reunion. They still regard Papa 00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:24.750 Joe's house as their home. Every Chinese New 00:31:24.750 --> 00:31:28.490 Year they come home. They bought so many stuff. 00:31:28.849 --> 00:31:34.480 He had chicken. sheep and the clothes. He said, 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.460 before, you know, the papa and mama tried very 00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:41.660 hard to buy clothes for them. So now, he said, 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.539 children brought so many clothes for us. We're 00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:48.920 too old. We don't need the clothes, but they 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.880 still buy for us. Yeah, we had a wonderful gathering. 00:31:54.779 --> 00:31:59.750 Wow. Praise the Lord. God is faithful. Well, 00:31:59.789 --> 00:32:03.549 thank God. Thank God. Yeah, he's so faithful. 00:32:03.789 --> 00:32:07.289 His father was an orphan. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:32:08.650 --> 00:32:13.210 So tell us just a little bit about how you and 00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:16.970 Lois grew up. Oh, yeah. You were in a communist 00:32:16.970 --> 00:32:19.910 nation, and your father was in the military, 00:32:20.029 --> 00:32:22.390 wasn't he? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we grew 00:32:22.390 --> 00:32:27.119 up in the Mongolia Gobi Desert. And Mawusu is 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:32.799 half desert, half grassland. And my father served 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.049 in the Mongolia horse troop. And he's like a 00:32:37.049 --> 00:32:39.730 commander, yeah, colonel, something like that. 00:32:39.869 --> 00:32:44.470 And my mom is a nurse. So when I was born, the 00:32:44.470 --> 00:32:47.369 year of the Cultural Revolution just about started. 00:32:47.450 --> 00:32:51.170 Oh, wow. Yeah, so they were too busy to look 00:32:51.170 --> 00:32:53.309 after. They had no time to take care of children. 00:32:53.470 --> 00:32:56.410 So they said all the children, I was the first 00:32:56.410 --> 00:33:00.589 born. And to where my grandmother lived. So my 00:33:00.589 --> 00:33:04.369 grandmother lived in the rural desert, you know. 00:33:04.779 --> 00:33:10.259 We like 10 miles away see one house. Yeah, muddy 00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:13.559 house. We live in the mud. Everything made by 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:18.759 mud. Mud bed, you know. Wow. Yeah. So we grew 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:24.000 up in a very isolated desert. You didn't know 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.599 Jesus at all. No, no. Yeah. No exposure. Yeah. 00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:33.140 But God is there. Yes, he's always there. He 00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:37.700 knows me. So he actually, God raised us up. So 00:33:37.700 --> 00:33:42.470 he gave us. pure environment. And we don't have 00:33:42.470 --> 00:33:45.569 TV. We grew up, we don't have any kind of the 00:33:45.569 --> 00:33:49.470 worldly thing. Everything handmade. So my grandparents 00:33:49.470 --> 00:33:53.589 teach us how to work. Yeah. Four years old, start 00:33:53.589 --> 00:33:56.950 working the farm because they have sheep, horse, 00:33:57.130 --> 00:34:00.650 and cow, and chicken, and all the animal. And 00:34:00.650 --> 00:34:04.549 it doesn't, like Israel, they seldom rain. So 00:34:04.549 --> 00:34:08.409 we have to carry the water from the well to... 00:34:08.429 --> 00:34:12.610 water the crop and for the animals food you know 00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:16.349 even for our food our food is totally from the 00:34:16.349 --> 00:34:20.329 field we planted in the winter autumn we need 00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:24.250 to learn how to store and the food and underground 00:34:24.250 --> 00:34:29.090 so very self -sufficient you know and we wear 00:34:29.090 --> 00:34:31.570 the clothes that all my grandparents made for 00:34:31.570 --> 00:34:34.889 us My grandparents, in the night, they were knitting, 00:34:35.150 --> 00:34:38.369 keeping knitting the sweater, the thing, because 00:34:38.369 --> 00:34:41.670 in the winter, it's so cold, minus 40 degrees. 00:34:42.030 --> 00:34:47.969 Oh, that's very cold. And the Siberian wind blowing. 00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:51.389 In the winter, you're almost impossible to go 00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:55.670 outside. The wind can, the sand. In the winter, 00:34:55.829 --> 00:34:58.670 we have to overcome the coldness, you know, by 00:34:58.670 --> 00:35:03.659 putting on so many sheepskin. The cotton clothes 00:35:03.659 --> 00:35:06.559 and the sheep skin, everybody look like a sheep. 00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:14.280 So that's how we hardly, you know, have a bath 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.820 or shower, nothing. Only in the spring, summertime 00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:21.980 come, we love to have a wash in the hot, hot 00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:26.619 summertime, you know. But because we live in 00:35:26.619 --> 00:35:29.139 the desert, the desert is quite clean, you know. 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.050 Living in the desert, Dry, dry area. Yeah, very 00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:37.559 dry, our skin very dry, yeah. So, yeah, we learned 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.360 how to, you know, milk the cows and dig in. We 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.179 always teaching us to do double job. You know, 00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:48.599 for example, like five, six years old, the grandparents 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:52.579 said you to be the shepherd boy, shepherd girl, 00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:55.719 you know, to look after the sheep and look after 00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.079 the cow. Another way, everybody carried a basket. 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.199 You need to dig out the weed for the pig. In 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.380 the sunset, we came home, we ride on the cows 00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:12.460 and carried a heavy basket of the pig food. Wow. 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:17.639 So that's kind of like my sister, she's eight 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.059 years old, carry the bucket of water, you know. 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.260 That's why she always complains that I didn't 00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:28.739 grow tall because I always carry the heavy water 00:36:28.739 --> 00:36:33.980 on my shoulder. Yeah, my grandmother has, you 00:36:33.980 --> 00:36:36.639 know, the tiny feet. Oh, she had bound feet? 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.000 Yeah, bound feet. Oh, she's poor, my grandmother. 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.429 Every night she has to... Unwrap, you know, so 00:36:43.429 --> 00:36:46.610 painful, you know. In the daytime, she almost 00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:50.349 kneel on the floor to work, you know. Day and 00:36:50.349 --> 00:36:53.769 night. Yeah, but we feel the tremendous love 00:36:53.769 --> 00:36:57.349 from my grandparents, you know. We learn so much 00:36:57.349 --> 00:37:00.510 from them. My grandparents all have very righteous 00:37:00.510 --> 00:37:03.929 character, you know. Yeah. Yeah, diligent, righteous, 00:37:03.969 --> 00:37:08.309 and generous. Our home is open for every stranger. 00:37:08.690 --> 00:37:11.630 Wow. You know, we welcome anybody. they come 00:37:11.630 --> 00:37:15.789 home, they always have hot tea. We even have 00:37:15.789 --> 00:37:19.530 just one room, one mud bed, you know, like half 00:37:19.530 --> 00:37:22.650 of this room. So everybody has a corner, you 00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:26.510 know, sleep put on your, you know, the wool carpet. 00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:30.030 Mm -hmm. So everybody had the wool carpet you 00:37:30.030 --> 00:37:33.230 rolled up in the daytime. Oh, yeah. In the night, 00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:36.489 you lay down. So that keep you warm. Wow. Yeah. 00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:39.929 So the one by one, everybody, oh, even we got 00:37:39.929 --> 00:37:45.170 a stranger come, they had a room to sleep. Wow. 00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:51.989 That kind of life. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, 00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:56.469 so. After my childhood, until up to nine years 00:37:56.469 --> 00:37:59.989 old, and I went, we all returned to a military 00:37:59.989 --> 00:38:03.429 camp. So we live in the military camp. That is 00:38:03.429 --> 00:38:06.610 another community life. So we always grew up 00:38:06.610 --> 00:38:10.610 in the community, and the child in the community. 00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:15.050 Then in the military camp, we like a hundred 00:38:15.050 --> 00:38:17.610 people living together in the camp, you know, 00:38:17.630 --> 00:38:21.650 all the officers, the soldiers, and the families. 00:38:22.769 --> 00:38:26.090 have a meal together, you know, yeah, many times 00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:30.110 we share the big meal, you know, or like kibbutz, 00:38:30.150 --> 00:38:33.230 you know, the way. So we share everything equally. 00:38:33.369 --> 00:38:37.289 Like children in the summer, we go to our military 00:38:37.289 --> 00:38:40.530 garden, you know, they plant so much vegetable. 00:38:40.789 --> 00:38:44.570 So our job is to gather that vegetable and then 00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:48.710 put it into the basket and put it at everybody's 00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:52.079 door. So then it has to be the same amount. So 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.880 you're sharing everything. Yeah, yeah, we share 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.800 everything. A little bit of, you know, molding 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.460 our character. Sure. Yeah, generously share with 00:39:01.460 --> 00:39:04.619 others. The only problem with communism is that 00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:07.500 they've left out Jesus. They've left out God. 00:39:07.699 --> 00:39:10.320 Yeah, yeah. Because communism itself is very 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.340 much like the book of Acts where you share everything. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.599 Yeah, you share everything. But you've got to 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.739 have the Holy Spirit. Otherwise, it doesn't work. 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.179 Yeah. Otherwise, what's yours is mine. And what's 00:39:21.179 --> 00:39:24.639 mine is mine. Yeah, exactly. But in those days, 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.139 they work out. I think God working because the 00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:32.199 principle about very sacrificial teaching, all 00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.639 of us live a sacrificial life. Yeah, because 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.699 those soldiers, you know, who died for liberation 00:39:37.699 --> 00:39:40.539 of the communism, you know, before the Chinese 00:39:40.539 --> 00:39:43.360 people live such a terrible life. Those soldiers 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.980 died for us. So the people have that kind of 00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:51.260 dying for one another, you know. Yeah. So yeah, 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.230 much, much less. less of a selfishness than today. 00:39:55.409 --> 00:39:57.630 You know, in those days, we always think about 00:39:57.630 --> 00:40:01.130 others. We want others best, you know. Yeah, 00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:05.469 so when coming to, then suddenly China changed. 00:40:05.929 --> 00:40:09.550 Yeah, before China emphasized on labor education, 00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:13.190 cultural revolution is everything about labor 00:40:13.190 --> 00:40:16.710 education, you know, all the intellectual growing 00:40:16.710 --> 00:40:19.570 pride. So they've been sent to the country to 00:40:19.570 --> 00:40:22.900 do the labor job. So the peasant is like, best. 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.579 If you are peasant, you're the highest position 00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:29.940 in China. Wow. Yeah. If you have money, wow, 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.239 you look down upon. So everybody very proud of 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:39.130 I'm a poor or I'm a... Wow. Yeah. So because 00:40:39.130 --> 00:40:41.949 our family come from peasant, you know, situation. 00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:44.989 So my father, that's why he has been promoted. 00:40:45.170 --> 00:40:47.590 Because my father also very great character, 00:40:47.909 --> 00:40:51.949 you know, leading by integrity. So he was promoted. 00:40:52.329 --> 00:40:55.630 And all these officers in the military camp are 00:40:55.630 --> 00:40:59.030 very good character. They like a Christian or 00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:02.230 more than, you know, they self, they set up very 00:41:02.230 --> 00:41:05.610 good example for all of us, you know, always. 00:41:06.190 --> 00:41:10.269 working for others. So anyway, we started school, 00:41:10.510 --> 00:41:15.030 and China's education changed from a laboring 00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:19.210 education to intellectual education, so intellectual 00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:23.650 type. So everybody needs to study very hard. 00:41:23.809 --> 00:41:27.010 So we all study very, very hard because we're 00:41:27.010 --> 00:41:29.690 always very obedient, you know, like best children 00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:34.289 or best students. So we always want to do the 00:41:34.289 --> 00:41:37.340 best. You know, that's from our parents, grandparents. 00:41:37.820 --> 00:41:41.599 So I become like a top student in all my school, 00:41:41.739 --> 00:41:45.539 primary school, intermediate, high school. So 00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:49.400 eventually I went to the top law university in 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.659 China. Law? Yeah, law. Oh, I don't think I knew 00:41:51.659 --> 00:41:54.199 that. That university is training for government 00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.300 official, you know. Okay. Yeah, and to making 00:41:57.300 --> 00:42:00.980 the law or serving the law and to training to 00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:05.539 be a judge or lawyer. very high position. So 00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:09.039 this is a chosen, you know, maybe one among thousand 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.960 students you've been chosen. So I was chosen, 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.199 you know, and to serve the communism law, you 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.119 know, serve our government, you know. Yeah. And 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.599 she passed the high examination. She was the 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:26.579 first master degree graduate from the banking 00:42:26.579 --> 00:42:29.440 because that time China started economic, you 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.780 know, Deng Xiaoping time in 1980, especially. 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.300 you know, when relationship between America and 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:39.099 China restored, that like a business started, 00:42:39.179 --> 00:42:42.900 you know, economic time. So he was, she was the 00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:46.340 first graduate or master degree student from 00:42:46.340 --> 00:42:51.480 her banking. 一样的 ,我的本科和研究生专业是一样的。 Yeah ,就是banking嘛, 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:57.190 yeah. So, yeah, but when I... achieved that level, 00:42:57.530 --> 00:43:00.510 but I suddenly feel when I was at university, 00:43:00.909 --> 00:43:05.449 I lost my goal. I don't know what is next for 00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:10.070 me to achieve. And also, I'm tired of driving 00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:14.110 myself so hard. You know, I suddenly feel I'm 00:43:14.110 --> 00:43:18.039 seeking for the meaning of my life. Yeah. Why 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.940 I'm on the earth. Why if I'm living just for 00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:24.820 working, it's like those days Chinese people 00:43:24.820 --> 00:43:27.699 had to work always Chinese people. But they don't 00:43:27.699 --> 00:43:32.400 have happiness, don't have joy. Yeah. Yeah. Just 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.500 like sleep, you know. Yeah. So I started searching 00:43:36.500 --> 00:43:39.519 the meaning of the life. I went to all the library 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.980 and study. And part of the reason I study English, 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.780 I want to go overseas. So I chose two. I did 00:43:46.780 --> 00:43:49.539 a double bachelor, one the law, one the English. 00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:53.039 I want to go overseas. I want to search in the 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.599 truth, go to the Western country. You know, that's 00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:02.480 my goal. And when I was so lost, I just so depressed 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.639 because one day, one of my friend, classmate, 00:44:06.699 --> 00:44:10.500 she committed suicide. And she threw herself 00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:15.539 from 13 high building. I cried. I feel like I 00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:19.000 want to follow her. You know, I feel so meaningless, 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.840 you know. Oh, just like a book of Ecclesiastes, 00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:26.340 you know. Empty, empty, empty, empty. Right. 00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.179 Yeah. Then God know. And then one day that would, 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.000 yeah. That time already we got, I only very interested 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.039 in learning English and also communicate with 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.360 my English teacher. So one day we got an English 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.300 teacher. She's a different English teacher. When 00:44:44.300 --> 00:44:48.300 she walk into the room, I saw her face gloomy 00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:51.559 with the light. I didn't know what that. Then 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.400 she smiled like angel. Then I realized every... 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.760 Teacher different, she's always teaching us with 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:02.980 a smile on her face. She's so happy. I just want 00:45:02.980 --> 00:45:07.780 to know why she's so happy. Then I become very 00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:11.840 close to her, and then she brought me to government 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:15.940 church. Before that, I don't know any church. 00:45:16.059 --> 00:45:18.820 I don't know Bible. I don't know Jesus at all. 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:22.400 Never heard about it. So when I remember when 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.280 I walk into the Three -Self Church, it was singing, 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:31.460 What a good friend of Jesus. Wow, that choir 00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:36.260 singing. You know what? Tears pouring out like 00:45:36.260 --> 00:45:40.079 rain. I cried for, non -stop crying for three 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.159 days. I believe that's born again, you know. 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.699 I just, everywhere I go, I cried. I just saw 00:45:46.699 --> 00:45:50.519 the beautiful flower, everything beautiful, you 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.199 know. That's such a born -again spirit. I never 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.639 forgot. So, yeah, so immediately after I have 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.900 it. great passion want to learn bible so god 00:46:01.900 --> 00:46:05.159 brought so many american missionary to me to 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.099 teach me bible german missionary australian missionary 00:46:09.099 --> 00:46:12.260 anyway i don't know how they just come to my 00:46:12.260 --> 00:46:17.619 life suddenly like yeah and my life I found a 00:46:17.619 --> 00:46:21.900 meaning. I found a joy. I began to laugh like 00:46:21.900 --> 00:46:26.099 them, you know. Tremendous change. Then I received, 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.119 at the same time that God, Jesus, given me a 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.380 calling, I read all these early disciples. Jesus 00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:34.619 said, come follow me. I'll make you fishmen. 00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:39.380 I just cannot help denying it. I said, Jesus, 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.380 you call me to be a fishman? You call me to follow 00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:48.619 you? And eventually. When I graduated in 1987, 00:46:49.099 --> 00:46:53.900 or 88, I graduated from my double major, and 00:46:53.900 --> 00:46:57.980 I have opportunity to remain at my university 00:46:57.980 --> 00:47:04.579 to become a law teacher. Yeah, so teaching the 00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:07.739 law in English, that kind of position they give 00:47:07.739 --> 00:47:10.559 to me, and you can have a good salary, you can 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.440 have a... Beijing citizenship, you know, it's 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.940 very hard to get Beijing citizenship like get 00:47:16.940 --> 00:47:20.519 a Roman citizenship, you know. The highest citizenship 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:25.260 in China. But I just keep feeling like God calling 00:47:25.260 --> 00:47:27.599 me and God brought me to underground church. 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.519 All these saints, you know, they just come out 00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.559 of the prison, you know. Wang Mingdao's disciples, 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:40.269 they... They've been in prison 20 years. So they've 00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:43.250 just been released. I was, you know, by accident, 00:47:43.269 --> 00:47:46.429 I was brought to their meeting. It's like, wow, 00:47:46.809 --> 00:47:49.650 you know, later I realized they are like passing 00:47:49.650 --> 00:47:52.389 on their anointing to us, you know, like mental, 00:47:52.750 --> 00:47:57.510 they mentally are. So I just cannot deny God 00:47:57.510 --> 00:48:00.960 calling me to serve him. Give up everything, 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.440 you know. Jesus keeps saying, you know, and deny 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.880 yourself, take up your cross to follow me. pay 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.920 the price. So I decided to give up my job, give 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:18.599 up my career to follow Jesus. But I didn't realize 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:23.440 that cost me so much. I got no job, no place 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.679 to stay. I just want to go to Bible college. 00:48:26.860 --> 00:48:29.760 But for going to Bible college, I have to... 00:48:30.430 --> 00:48:34.610 live in nowhere, had no money, nothing for four 00:48:34.610 --> 00:48:37.969 or five years. But God said, I am your Bible 00:48:37.969 --> 00:48:41.269 college. He started training me and using me 00:48:41.269 --> 00:48:44.809 as evangelist. So that time I got such a zeal 00:48:44.809 --> 00:48:48.409 to preach gospel. I preached and built up the 00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:51.590 university fellowship, the first fellowship in 00:48:51.590 --> 00:48:54.989 university. Wow. Yeah, later I went back to my 00:48:54.989 --> 00:48:59.190 school, my university. They have so many become 00:48:59.190 --> 00:49:02.530 Christian. Glory to God. Yeah, even today they 00:49:02.530 --> 00:49:05.650 still, the fellowship become a church, underground 00:49:05.650 --> 00:49:10.760 church. Wow. So, Annie, I want to say thank you 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.900 for sharing this part of your story with us. 00:49:13.980 --> 00:49:16.840 And we're going to continue in the next episode 00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.559 sharing with your sister's story. Lois has such 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.800 an amazing story about being in prison in China. 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.920 If you enjoyed today's podcast. Please subscribe, 00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:37.219 rate and review this podcast on Apple Podcasts 00:49:37.219 --> 00:49:40.079 or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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