You're not going to bring forth fruit when you're
dealing with the cares of this life or the deceitfulness
of riches or lusts of other things entering in.
It chokes the word. Pleasures of this life. These
things can distract us from the heavenly pattern.
And we want to pattern our life to live in his
glory. His glory is in his presence. God promises
in Joel 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity.
Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend
for that promise outpouring, we equip for that
outpouring, so that we may engage in that very
outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss.
Welcome to the podcast today. We're so excited
to bring this episode to you today. Philip had
an encounter with the Lord recently in his devotional
time, and we're going to talk about Pattern Your
Life to Live in the Glory. Thank you so much
for joining us today. We really appreciate you
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just... keep you up to date with what we're doing
these days. And one of the things we're doing
these days is our convention 2025 coming right
up. And I've been talking about this for weeks
and weeks on this podcast and telling you all
about who's ministering. But I really want to
emphasize the fact that the most important person
who's going to be there is the presence of the
Lord. We know that when we assemble that he shows
up. because we're coming with a heart of humility.
We're coming with a heart to seek his face. We're
coming with a heart to worship him. We're coming
with a heart to be open to what he has for us
and get new marching orders, fresh marching orders.
engage with him in what he wants to do in the
earth. We want it to be on earth as it is in
heaven. So we're dedicating our hearts to bring
new, fresh things from the heavenlies into the
earth while we're in worship, while we're in
intercession, while we're in study of the word
and revelation that has come to the speakers.
We're just ready to just soak in his presence
and get renewed and get freshened up in what
he has for us. So I really encourage you to come,
bring the children, bring the teens. We have
something special for each of them. We even have
a nursery. And so we're looking for the people
that God is tugging. Is he tugging at your heart
to come? It's at the St. Louis Airport Marriott,
and it's May 21st through 25th. We really encourage
you to come if you possibly can and participate
in this and draw from this deep well. There's
a deep well of... history and anointing and things
that we haven't even experienced on the earth
yet. And we're going to talk about some of that
kind of thing today on this podcast. So, Philip,
tell us what happened with you a few days ago
that gave you this idea for this podcast. I was
just in my morning prayer time before the Lord,
and I just heard, do everything according to
the pattern. Yeah. I don't... precisely remember
what all I was just praying, but that just ran
across and immediately I knew where it was because
that's when Moses was on the mount in the presence
of God. Yeah, Mount Sinai. Mount Sinai. The Lord
gave him the pattern for the tabernacle. Yes.
And it had it from the terms that most believers
are familiar with, like the Ark of the Covenant
and, you know, the altar of incense. Yeah. And
all the furniture. So that was all given to Moses
and the mount. And I think God caught him away
into heaven and showed him the heavenly tabernacle.
Because it's in the book of Revelation where
it talks about those things, like the seven spirits
of God there in flames. So then the Lord showed
him, now here's how you do it on earth. And there's
also in Revelation, it says, and the temple of
God was opened. See, there is a real temple.
Everything on the earth is a shadow. It's a model
of what is to come on earth as it is in heaven.
Yes, exactly. So Moses is getting this pattern.
And it's not like it's a pattern of this was
what they followed all through the Old Testament.
Yeah. But many of the... things they have today,
it's like a lot of the rabbis, they don't follow
everything. They follow more the oral traditions
of things. And that's where things can get complicated.
And it just kind of loses things too. Yeah. They've
added to it because, and that oral tradition,
I just have to make a point here. It says in
the scripture, and Moses wrote everything that
God said. So if there's an oral tradition, then
who said it? Because Moses wrote down everything
that God said. Yeah, that's very good. And which
we do too, many times when the Lord speaks to
us. Oh yeah, write it down. Write it down, especially
in the night seasons and that. Because if you
don't write it down, your devotion time, you'll
lose it. It's true. Unless you've got a photographic
memory. Of course, you're not seeing a photo
if you have a brain memory. Whatever kind of
memory. You're blessed to have that. That's great.
So then what happened? Well, so when I did get
up, and I've been reading this year, it's a devotional
Sister Gwen's, and she has written many devotionals.
Oh, yeah. Started out as she was looking for
something for a trip to Israel. Yeah, a devotional
for travelers. And she couldn't find one, so
she wrote one. Yes. It was amazing. Absolutely.
And then she just kept writing, and that turned
into Daily Preparations for Perfection. That's
the name of the book. That's the name of the
book. And it's not in any particular book. It
takes different scriptures and one for every
day. And she went from there to Day by Day, which
was on the Psalms. Yep. And that's a remarkable
one on the Psalms. Absolutely. It's like sitting
at the feet of Jesus, every one of these books.
And we would send those to prisons. We would
get requests from prisoners, you know, can you
please send this to us? Yeah. And it has just
touched so many lives. It's true. And then her
next, what was her next one she wrote? I think
the next one might have been In the Beginning.
In the Beginning. Yeah, that's just on the book
of Genesis. And that's a whole. Oh, it's amazing.
That's a Bible study in itself. It's remarkable.
Yeah. And these devotionals are not. normal devotionals.
These are deep for deep study in the Word. And
then she has one just on the Proverbs. Yes, Gems
of Wisdom. Gems of Wisdom. And then she has one...
He sent me back to tell you. That was her last
one. Yeah. That's a big one. After she was at
the gates of heaven hoping to go in, and we prayed
her back. She wasn't very happy. She says, don't
ever do that again. Isn't that what Polly said
to Smith Wigglesworth? What did you do that for?
What did you do that for? Because she died, and
he commanded life to come into her body. And
she had some conversation with him that says,
you've got to let me go. And he let her go. She
went back to heaven. Went back to heaven. Authority
of the believer. Yep, yep. Call your spouse back.
But my favorite one is when we had the fire.
Tell about the fire. It was in 1990. The fire
was 1990, but we had this fire. It was like 1
o 'clock in the morning, and it took everything.
Yeah, took our offices. Somebody broke, one of
our staff broke into the accounting office and
got all of the mailing list, files of the mailing
list. Yeah, the mailing list and the accounting
records. So everything burnt, the print shop
burnt. Everything was in one, all our eggs were
in one basket. Yeah, our bookstore, our school
of ministry, our baby. All the manuscripts, originals.
all the original stuff of Sister Gwen, 40 years
of ministry went up in one night. I think it
was 50. It was 50. Yeah, it was 50. Yeah, actually
it was 50. And Sister Gwen was planning a sabbatical,
and she took one. After the fire, she closed
the Bible school down, didn't travel, just as
it was a sabbatical unto the Lord. I think she
went to Israel. Yeah, he gave her permission
to do that. To do that. After a time of grieving,
the Lord gave her this book, spoke to her and
says, pick up your pen. I want to teach you out
of the red letters of the Gospels. Yeah. And
so the title of this devotional is From the Heart
of Jesus. And it's not one that has a date for
every day because it goes beyond 365 days. But
it's the story of Jesus, you know, how he spoke
to her in the first person. Yeah, his life on
earth, even when he was a 12 -year -old in the
temple. Yeah, it's like background. It's a background
is what it is. It's like Paul Harvey's the rest
of the story. Yes, exactly. And I'll tell you
right now, there is not another devotional like
this that I have ever seen. Yeah. And it is so
powerful because it's the rest of the story of
things. And it includes in their traditions things
we don't understand that aren't in our New Testament.
Or in our culture. Or in our culture. Because
a lot of the New Testament deals with the culture
of the day. Things we don't understand. And why
did he say it? And we try to make something out
of this or that. It's my favorite one. And so
I was reading in it that same morning, and the
title of this devotion was called, Things to
Know If You Are Called of God. We have a calling.
Make your calling and your election sure. And
many seek to find it in many different ways,
but the key to finding it is the presence. Amen.
Getting in the presence of God. And even in our
world conventions that we have, we don't call
them world convention anymore, We just call them
conventions because we've got global in it. And
we have these flags. We have over 160 or 170
flags, if we have room, of all the nations that
this ministry has operated in. We have somebody
there with feet on the ground doing the work
of the kingdom. So we just don't put a flag up
because we want to. It's because we've had somebody
there ministering in that nation from our organization.
And that's big when you think about that. I thought,
wow. And even this podcast has gone out to a
hundred and... At least 189. 189 nations, you
know. Yeah. That's just somebody there, even
in the Muslim nations, Arab nations, somebody
has clicked. And the islands of the sea. And
the islands of the sea. You know, of course,
the U .S., Canada, Australia, with a lot of people
in Australia. Yes. And we don't hear from them,
but they listen. So this is... So things to know
if you are called by God. And I want to read
this segment that she has. This will give you
an understanding. This is the Holy Spirit talking
through Sister Gwen, you know, Jesus speaking
to her. It says, I went up into the mountains
alone to pray. A number of men had been following
me. I had to know the Father's will. It was important
that I only ordained those whom he had prepared
to serve with me. I also knew that among those
whom I would ordain one, one must be different
from all the others. He would be evil in his
heart and would eventually betray my whereabouts
to my enemies so that I would be arrested and
crucified. Sometimes you too must permit a Judas
to be included in the group who will work with
you in the ministry. Do not always try to get
rid of Judases. They are there for your perfecting.
And also to test and try those who work with
you to see if they will remain loyal to you under
testing and temptation. Wow. Yeah, wow. You will
be surprised how many of those who you trusted
will follow the Judas goat and be led astray.
And I'm adding this. You may have heard what
the Judas goat, you know, you may not know what
that does. There's a footnote there, isn't it?
Yeah, there's a footnote here. A male goat that
is kept for the purpose of leading the other
sheep and goats to their slaughter. Yeah. Oh,
wow. Mm -hmm. Yet these things are necessary.
Did I not say, I have chosen you and one of you
is a devil? That's in John 6, 70. And it is needful
that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom
the offense cometh. And you'll find that scripture
in Matthew 18, 7. After I had chosen 12 men,
I ordained them to go to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel. It is important that you know
who should be your co -workers and where you
should go. Always wait until you get your orders
from me. Never make decisions in your own understanding.
I commissioned them to preach the gospel, heal
the sick, cleanse the leper, raise the dead,
and cast out devils. That's Matthew chapter 10,
verses 7 and 8. There are 10 important points
to remember when you are called. One. And so
this is the pattern. This is the pattern. And
this is spontaneous writing. Yeah. When Sister
Gwen writes, this is spontaneous. She gets it
from the Holy Spirit. Number one, wait for me
to send you. That's important. Especially in
organizations, you know, if you have opportunities
or things, you only want to go where God wants
you to go because you don't want to go somewhere
that is not his will. Exactly. And that's why
you have to spend time with him. Lord, where
do you want me to go? You know, the way he opens
the door and makes things happen. Two, go only
to the places I approve. Yeah. Number three,
do only the works I have commissioned you to
do. If you do any more than that, you will break
under the burden. Don't we know that one? That's
true. We totally understand that. Go where you're
commissioned. The expression, just don't go with
any Tom, Dick, and Harry. When's the last time
you heard that expression? That's an expression.
That's an old one. That means just don't go with
anybody. Get your orders from the Holy Spirit.
Number four, remember it will not be easy. You
will be hated even as I was. You will be persecuted
by men. But trust me to be with you and help
you to give the right answers to your inquisitors
when that happens. And Sister Gwen has taken
some amazing groups. I remember one group, you
were on it, I wasn't, but they were in Haiti.
And just as they're leaving, they're having a
military coup. Actually, I wasn't on that one.
You weren't on that one. No. So you never know
what's going to happen. And it was on a tour
somewhere, you were on that one, where they were
waiting for the bus and someone died right on
the spot. I wasn't on that one either. You weren't
either. No. But Sister Gwen said, nobody's going
to die on my tours and just called life back.
That's true. And this lady was... She was seeing
the lights and all that, and then all of a sudden
she heard Sister Gwen calling her back. Nobody's
going to die on my tours. We have exciting tours
when we took them. Yeah, she said the Lord gave
her the scripture. I think it's in the Book of
Acts that I give you all that are journeying
with you. All that are journeying with you. Yeah,
that's good. And we say, remember, it will not
be easy. A lot of tours we've been on have not
been easy. Oh, yeah. You get off the plane in
Tibet, you're at 11 ,500 feet, and we went up
to 17 ,800 feet. We only have half your oxygen.
Yeah. And places you go, you've got the communist
government looking for people like you. Right.
But if you're where God told you to go, the Holy
Spirit hides you. It's true. And we've had those
experiences. And even our brother Bob Baldwin
tells of his experience. They were in China.
And it was the Lord spoke to him to pray for
this person. This was not a believer. They had
an ailment. She had a bad pain in her stomach.
He prayed for her in the name of Jesus. Remember,
these are Buddhists or they're communists. And
the person got healed. And all of a sudden, here's
a line. of people for him to pray for, spontaneous.
So he's praying for them, and all of a sudden
they grab him and say, we've got to go out there
because someone called the police. And the police
are coming in the front door, and they pull him
out the back door, and they had to go and hide
somewhere. You know, wow, want to go on a tour
with us? But this is when God commissions you
to go, he will protect you and make a way of
escape. Right, but it won't be easy. But it won't
be easy, and if you do get caught, there's a
reason for that too. Wow. Okay. So, number five,
trust me to supply all your needs. Absolutely.
You know, God is so good at that. And one time
Sister Gwen in her early years went to Indonesia
and the Lord spoke to her. You won't have to
bring any money. Yeah. She did bring some because
you have to. How much money do you have? She
changed like $20 or something. And the Lord said,
you won't need that. You won't need that. Yeah.
And sometimes they ask, how much money do you
have with you? Because if you don't have money,
they may not let you in. That's true. And so.
She used just some of that money to buy stamps.
And then later somebody gave her some stamps.
She didn't even need to use it. It was like $3
or something. The stamps were cheap back then.
But she had money because it was kind of a requirement.
But God provided all her needs, all her food,
her hotel. Everything was taken care of. Because
even a lot of times we travel, we bring money
and we give in the offerings because a lot of
the people don't have anything. And number six
is trust me to protect you. Never be afraid of
your enemies. That's in Matthew chapter 10, verse
28. And there's times Sister Gwen has been on
trips where, you know, you could hear the gunfire.
That was in Pakistan years back. You could hear,
you know, gunfire and things going on. And we've
been in that. And I remember once we were in
a bus going to Israel, we were in a tour that
is not for normal tourists. It was for passengers.
We do unusual things. And we were going to an
area where you had to have an armored bus, which
we had. Or no, maybe we didn't have. No, this
one wasn't an armored bus. Yeah. And all of a
sudden, here comes a Molotov cocktail. I watch
it. Come over the front, it hits the front of
the bus and the side, but it didn't do any damage.
Thanks be to God. Thanks be to God. So we always
pray every morning we get on the bus for God
to protect us, and he's so good on that. And
number seven was love everyone but trust only
a few. Yeah, that's good. I think one time Sister
Gwen was in Russia, and she heard the word fox
or something like that, the Holy Spirit. That's
a fox. And when they're being introduced to some
people, didn't someone mention it was by the
Spirit or something? They call him the fox or
something. So she knew immediately the word that
the Lord gave her, you don't trust him. And so
God is so good at that to do things like that.
Wow. Number eight was be willing to lay down
your life. I remember on our trip to Tibet, we
had everybody sign a waiver. We're not responsible
if you don't come back. You know, that's a scary
thing when you're on a tour. That means the ministry
is not responsible to get you out of jail. We
even made like next of kin sign that they were
in agreement. Yeah, that was Tibet. That was
because that's a unique place to go. Difficult
place. Yeah. And number nine was you shall be
rewarded for your faithfulness. And when you
do things in the will of God, you will be rewarded.
God is so good at doing that. It may not be in
a financial way or something, but he has other
ways of blessing you because of your faithfulness.
And number 10 was, I'm coming soon and my reward
for your faithfulness is with me. Amen. And that's
what we want to be because when we strive to
get close to him, we strive to enter his rest.
It's to be close to him. Yes. And he is so faithful,
even in the little things. Absolutely. Especially
in the little things. You get those kisses from
the Lord when you realize he's the only one who
knew I wanted that. Why don't you share that
cookie one, the Oreo? Oh, yeah. One of our ladies
had this experience with the Lord where she was
watching. She just had the TV on. She was probably
not even paying much attention to it. And she
heard an advertisement for Oreo cookies. And
the thing that was said about it was, Oreo cookies,
the cookie that loves milk. You know, because
you want to dip your cookie in milk, right? Or
coffee. But she said, it's not the cookie that
loves milk. It's the cookie that loves coffee.
coffee and she only wants coffee when she has
a sweet she doesn't drink coffee without a sweet
and she doesn't eat a sweet without coffee that's
just how her taste works you know so sometime
not very long after that she was in a restaurant
and she had just finished her dessert and coffee
And the waiter came around and said, would you
like some more coffee? She said, oh, no, thank
you. I only have coffee with my dessert or with
something sweet. And I don't drink coffee unless
I have something sweet. He says, well, let me
see what I can do about that. So he disappears
and he comes back with a little plate that has
three or four Oreo cookies on it. And he gave
them to her and poured her some more coffee.
And she heard the Lord say, I was listening.
Isn't that sweet? And what it turns out is, the
backstory is that he went into the kitchen or
wherever he had his backpack, and he got from
his own supply of Oreo cookies to serve to her,
which you wouldn't think that's even probably
right to do in a restaurant. But God led him
because he heard her little thought. that she
spoke out into her place where she was living
all by herself, and God was listening. It's a
kiss from the Lord when those kind of things
happen. You just need to recognize those kisses.
Yeah, that's just amazing. Isn't that sweet?
Oh, that really is how God really just does things
like that, just to let you know. Yeah, it's true.
He likes our taste. It's true. So the important
thing is that we do things according to the pattern.
Now, that was a pattern that the Lord spoke to
Sister Gwen in that devotional about, you know,
here's a list of things that you need to know
about being called by the Lord. Yeah. And so
we should take that into consideration. It comes
from heaven. Remember how Jesus taught his disciples
to pray. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on
earth as it is in heaven. And that's what Moses
was shown in the mountain in Mount Sinai when
he was with the Lord for 40 days. And then he
came down and broke the tablets and dealt with
the calf and went back up for another 40 days.
And I don't think he had a meal in the middle.
He was fasting for 80 days, probably. Wow. You
know that's God. Yeah, you know that's God. But
in his presence, when you have that kind of face
-to -face encounter with the Almighty God, the
Most High, I would think that you wouldn't have
any interest in eating. No, the glory just overwhelms
you. Yeah, it's about the glory. And the title
of this episode, Pattern Your Life to Live in
the Glory, was a line from a song that the Lord
gave you. Yeah, that was from Hebrews chapter
8, talking about the minister, this is King James,
to the minister of the sanctuary. And that's
our Lord Jesus. Yeah. That's in the sanctuary.
Yeah. I mean, back when they had the Ark of the
Covenant, the tabernacle, you had the altar of
incense, and that's where the presence of God
was. His presence was over the ark, had the two
angels covering it. That was the presence of
God on earth. Right. And that was in that. Yeah.
So in Hebrews chapter 8, verse 5, it's referring
to that same verse that Philip read earlier from
Exodus 25, 40. And it's quoting it, Hebrews 8,
5. It says, and it's talking about the priests.
Every high priest, this is verse 3, every high
priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices,
etc., etc. And then it says in verse 5, who serve
the copy and the shadow, or the example and the
shadow. That's in the King James says example,
and the New King James says the copy. So what
we have on earth is a copy of what's in heaven.
Yeah. It reminds me of what we do in our spare
time, which is little. But over the years, we've
managed to put together a train board. A model
railroad. A model railroad. And you want things
to look like the real thing. So you get this
plastic. model that's all bright and shiny and
but you want it to look like the real thing there's
not any bright shiny train cars out there only
when they roll out of the factory yeah and and
they don't stay that way for long so you dust
them up and you make them look weathered and
and you try to make it look authentic so it's
the same idea only what's heavenly we don't want
to dust up and make weathered and look bad but
you know that we want to do on earth as it is
in heaven. Yeah. And, you know, a little side
bunny from that bunny trail, you know, is where
people might remember the Where's Waldo? Oh,
yeah. It has this little guy with a cane and
glasses. He has a striped red shirt and the book
or wherever, they have this big crowd of people
and you got to find Waldo in there. Where's Waldo?
Yeah. Yeah. And so actually on the... On the
train board. We do have a Waldo. He rides actually
in the caboose at the moment. Yeah, at the moment.
And when Sharon painted him, this little tiny
figurine had to use a paintbrush with about two
hairs on it and a magnifying glass to get the
detail. But it's all in the detail. Right. Because
we want it to look authentic. And to look authentic.
Yeah. And he does look authentic from a distance.
It's pretty good. Pretty good. You couldn't buy
one, so we had to make one. Yeah. We didn't want
to pay the money for the buying one. It was too
expensive. So back to the scripture. Yeah. End
of bunny trail. End of bunny trail. So talking
about the priests who serve the copy and shadow
of the heavenly things. As Moses was divinely
instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle.
For he said, see that you make all things according
to the pattern shown you on the mountain. So
we want to. do things according to the pattern
of what's in heaven. And that's part of why I
love the fact that God is so gracious to us,
to have connected us with Dean Braxton, who had
an hour and 45 minutes of earth time in heaven,
which was... a huge experience in heaven. Huge,
huge. And I was just rereading part of his book,
Deep Worship in Heaven, and I highly recommend
that you get that book. It is life -changing,
absolutely life -changing, because he gives details
of what it was like. to worship at the throne
in heaven. And as you understand how it is in
heaven, you can begin to apply it from your own
heart on earth and begin to worship him in spirit
and in truth. Like Jesus said to the woman at
the well, you know, the time is coming and now
is that they that worship him will worship him
in spirit and in truth. So when we're in that
place on the earth where we're drawn into the
spirit realm and drawn into his presence, presence,
that's where we begin to give him something that
really just blesses him. He loves it. He loves
it when we do on earth as it is in heaven. So
you see this pattern in the mount, and in Numbers
chapter 8 and verse 4, there's a similar scripture,
and it says, and this work of the candlestick,
which would be the menorah, was of beaten gold
unto the shaft thereof, unto the flowers thereof
was beaten work. According to the pattern which
the Lord had showed Moses, so he made the candlestick.
So it's so important that we do things according
to the pattern. And the candlestick is like a
representative of the seven spirits of God. Right.
Which Dean says are like pillars of fire. Wow.
Yeah. Awesome. That was what he experienced.
I just read it this morning. Oh, wow. That's
good. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? That's like God's
kiss timing for this. I love it. I love it. He
gives us the pieces of the puzzle. So I was also
moved by what the history says in 1 Chronicles
28, 11 and 12, where it talks about what... David
did. Because remember, David wanted to build
a temple for God. And the prophet Nathan, I think
it was, said, go to it. Go to it. The Lord bless
you in your plans. Because it sounded good. It
sounded great. But then the Lord spoke to him.
And here's another thing where it's so easy for
us to get into agreement with a good idea that
might not be a God idea. God said, no. David
can't do that because he's a man of bloods. He
has shed a lot of blood in all these wars, and
he was doing the wars in agreement with God.
He was following the leading of the Holy Spirit
in all these wars that he participated in, all
these battles. But because of that, it wasn't
appropriate for him to build the house. But he
prepared things for the house. God told him,
your son Solomon is going to build it because
he's a man of peace. He's not a man of war. But
David gathered up all kinds of things for the
building of the house. He gathered up gold and
silver and brass and fabrics and all these kinds
of things. But he also sat before the Lord to
get the pattern. And it says in 2 Chronicles
28, where it's talking about how David brought
the leaders together and explained to them, what
he had in his heart and how he was not allowed
to do it. And then he goes on to say in verses
11 and 12, and David gave his son Solomon the
plans for the vestibule. Now, it says in the
King James, David gave to Solomon his son the
pattern of the porch. So the pattern word is
there, and it's just translated differently in
the New King James. The plans for the vestibule,
its houses, its treasuries, its upper chambers,
its inner chambers, and the place of the mercy
seat. And the plans for all that he had by the
Spirit. By the Spirit. of the courts of the house
of the Lord, of all the chambers all around,
of the treasuries of the house of God and of
the treasuries for the dedicated things. And
then it goes on in verse 18, where it's talking
about all the gold and the silver and all these
things. In verse 18 says, and refined gold by
weight for the altar of incense. And for the
construction of the chariot, that is the gold
cherubim that spread their wings and overshadowed
the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this,
said David, the Lord made me understand in writing
by his hand upon me. all the works of these plans.
And again, in the King James where it says plans,
in what I just read, it uses the word pattern.
But this word for the construction of the chariot,
that word is also pattern in the King James.
And it means it's like an image, a likeness of
a thing, a model or a structure. So you get this
idea of it has the appearance of what he saw.
And that's the kind of thing that Dean talks
about, Dean Braxton talks about, that you can't
explain in human language what it looked like.
And even if you look at Ezekiel and Isaiah and
John the Revelator, when they had their experiences
in heaven, they didn't have words to say what
it was. They said it looked like. Looked like.
It was like this. And that's what Dean struggles
to get words to explain what he saw. And he'll
say it was like something that we can relate
to. And that's what the pattern is. The pattern
is something that's a likeness of the real thing,
like our little model railroad things are a likeness
of the real thing. You know, you get up. next
to a locomotive and it's huge and it's dirty
and it's, you know, it's greasy, but it's huge.
So we try to make this little bitty version of
it, you know, and make it look like the real
thing. It's like, it's like, so he's, he's looking
for us to model his likeness in the earth because
we were made in his likeness in the first place
and we lost it. You know, Adam and Eve blew it.
And they lost their likeness of the one who is
light. He is light. But if we have Jesus on the
inside of us, who is the light of the world,
he said, I am the light of the world. And his
father is the father of lights in whom there
is no darkness, neither shadow of turning. he's
looking for us to allow that light to shine through
us so if we've got him inside of us right we've
we've invited him to come and live inside of
us and we are also in him in him we live and
move and have our being right so it's kind of
like you could imagine it kind of like you've
got a sphere that's inside of a sphere that's
inside of a sphere So the inner sphere and the
outer sphere are him. And then there's us in
the middle, the in -between part. And I really
feel like what he's looking for is for us to
cooperate with him in the process of transforming
the fleshly nature, the soulish nature, into
his nature. Because the light can't shine out
of us. And connect with that outer light unless
we're transparent. And so what the Holy Spirit
is working in us day by day, it's not an instant
thing. It won't happen overnight. But day by
day, as we yield to his presence, as we yield
to the weight of his glory. We're allowing him
to kind of push out the impurities and get those
things out. And sometimes he puts us through
the fire to burn up the dross, to burn up the
stuff that doesn't belong there, the wood and
the hay and the stubble that doesn't belong in
heaven. It doesn't belong there. And when we
become more and more transparent in our walking
with him, where we instantly realize, oops. I
made an exaggeration when I said that, and you
correct yourself. That's a thing where his truth
is working in us. And we begin not only to tell
the truth to other people, but we have to tell
the truth to ourselves. It's critical. It's critical
that we let that truth, like especially the truth
of the things that he says about us. We, as humans,
have a tendency to look at ourselves in the mirror.
instead of looking at ourselves in the word.
And what you see in the mirror isn't even really
you. You have to be honest with yourself. Yeah,
you have to be honest with yourself. But what
you see in the mirror is actually a mirror image
of you. It's backwards. If you look at yourself
in the mirror all the time and then you look
at yourself in a photograph, if you part your
hair on the side, It's going to be on the opposite
side. So you're not really seeing a true picture
of yourself in the mirror. But if you look into
the word, he's talking about you for who he says
you are. And he's the one that says something
and it happens. So our job is to get into agreement
with him, to get into agreement and co... operate
with him, co -labor with him. Yeah. You know,
you see these bumper stickers now and this is
coexist. Oh yeah. You know, it shows all the
signs of all the different religions. Yeah. But
there is no way that they can coexist because
light cannot fellowship with darkness. Yeah.
And that's how, you know, we coexist with Jesus.
Right. You know, because light has no place for
darkness. So if you're living in any kind of
darkness, it's going to hamper getting more light
into you. Yeah, it's true. Now, on the other
hand, you do need to love them. Yeah. And that's
where you can coexist in that way. You can be
pouring light into them and pouring light on
them. But I see your point. I totally see your
point. You know, as I was meditating on... this
principle of living in the pattern that was shown
in the mountain and patterning your life to live
in the glory, because that's what the glory is.
The glory is the heavenly way of doing things,
God's way, doing things God's way. And that reminds
me of the webinar that we just had recently with
Timothy Bentz. We had him on the podcast some
weeks ago, several weeks ago. And then we spent
the night at his house. on our journeys quite
a few weeks ago. And he began telling us things
about spiritual warfare that he had learned because
Jesus has been mentoring him since he was two
years old. And so he has learned a lot about
spiritual warfare and the importance of coming
into rest and coming into the presence of God
and humbling ourselves in the sight of the Lord
and submitting to God before we try to rebuke
the devil. Because the devil won't flee from
us unless we are submitted to God. You know,
that's just how it works. So anyway, he rolled
out some amazing things, and I really want to
encourage you to go to our YouTube channel. And
watch that webinar. There's four sessions. And
it's very, very, very powerful. I found it life
-changing. And if you are a Christian, you probably
need to listen to that. And especially if you
pray, if you engage at all in spiritual warfare,
which who doesn't if you're a believer? There's
warfare going on all the time. You need that
message. It will be life -changing. But I said
all that because I was talking about... how we
deal with the opposition that comes to us and
how sometimes it's difficult because we're looking
at a mirror image of ourselves and we're looking
at the world around us and the circumstances
around us. And if you watch the news or listen
to the news, I mean, it's just, it would be discouraging
if you do that. I just, I don't even do it. Yeah,
I look at headlines occasionally, but I'm looking
at even those less and less because I want to
know what's going on in heaven and practice it
on earth, and that will affect what's going on
on earth. And I believe the Lord is looking for
a people who are willing to shut off the earth,
the earthly things, in the right amount, in the
right time, in the right way, in order to connect.
with our Father in heaven. And what I've been
experiencing lately, you know, we've got convention
coming up. And there's so many things to do before
convention. And they're all in my head, because
I've been doing this all these years. And we
want to do this, and we need to do that, and
we need to do that, and that, and that, and that.
And, you know, I want to make sure all these
things get done. And I find that I get... into
a little bit of stress or maybe a lot of stress.
And I know that's not the place to be. The place
to be is in his rest. And I was reminded of Mark
4 .19 that talks about, you know, the parable
of the sower, which is really more about the
soil that the seed fell on, but the seed that
fell on ground that had thorns. And it says,
the cares of this world and the deceitfulness
of riches and the lust of other things entering
in choke the word and it becomes unfruitful.
And the same story in Luke 8, 14 says it this
way, and that which fell among the thorns are
they which when they have heard go forth and
are choked with cares and riches and pleasures
of this life and bring no fruit to perfection.
You know, it's like the fruit falls off the tree
while it's still green. Yeah. It doesn't ever
get there. And I'm just being transparent myself
here that sometimes life is happening all around
me and I get kind of moved by the stuff that's
going on around me instead of remaining in that
place of rest where that's where you're going
to bring forth fruit. You're not going to bring
forth fruit when you're dealing with the cares
of this life. Or the deceitfulness of riches.
Or lusts of other things entering in. It chokes
the word. Pleasures of this life. These things
can distract us from the heavenly pattern. And
we want to pattern our life to live in his glory.
And his glory is in his presence. And so walking
in his presence. I'm reminded of how easily we
can lose revival. Revivals through the years
typically last a year or two or three. They might
last as much as seven or eight or nine, but eventually
they wane. Arthur Burt wrote a book called There
Shall Be No Ebb, and he gets that title from
a prophecy that he heard in 1934. And that prophecy
is, it shall come as a breath and the breath
shall bring the wind and the wind shall bring
the rain and there shall be floods and floods
and floods and torrents and torrents and torrents.
Souls shall be saved like falling leaves from
mighty oaks swept by a hurricane. Arms and legs
will come down from heaven and there shall be
no ebb. In other words, this will be a move of
God that comes in. Like when the tide comes in.
The tide comes in and then it ebbs back out.
And then it comes in and then it ebbs back out.
But this move of God that we are anticipating,
and it's begun in pockets around the world, this
is coming in and not going back out. In order
for the outpouring to continue without ebb. The
Holy Spirit must have the freedom to move in
unique ways and not be bound to an earth pattern.
So what I see is, and I think Arthur Burt wrote
in his book, because he lived to be over 100
years old. And so he saw lots of revivals come
and go. And what he saw, and I'm going to put
this in my words because I didn't read his book
recently, but what he saw was that pride would
come in. that the people in charge of the revival,
it's like, okay, I see the pattern that God is
doing. Okay, God, we've got this. We'll just
continue with that pattern. And that is how denominations
get started. And you get a denomination that
it was born in the Spirit. It was born in revival.
It was born in an outpouring. But the leaders
say, okay, we've got this now. We can see how
God is doing this, so we will continue to do
it this way. And the fire goes out or goes very
dim, and what was there in the move of God becomes
something that's predictable. And they should
be pressing in for more and more, but you get
used to where you're at. It's true. It's true.
And you think, okay, this is how it's done. a
place where he used to preach. And there was
a lady that was really a wonderful believer,
and she would get overcome by the Holy Spirit
in a meeting. And she'd walk over to the piano
and pick up the potted plant, the potted flower,
off of the piano and stick it on top of her head
and dance around with it. So he could tell. Any
time there was somebody who had been around this
woman's ministry, because they would walk up
to the piano and pick up the plant and dance
around with it because they thought that that
was the pattern. Here's how we're supposed to
do it. Right? But that's the flesh. It's trying
to do in the flesh what can only be done in the
Spirit. It's like a lot of your Sunday morning
programs will have three songs, then have the
offering, and that's the pattern. Right. But
Jesus. He likes to blow patterns out of the water.
Absolutely. Wow. Absolutely. So with this idea
of being willing to let the Holy Spirit lead
and do anything he wants to do, he wants to do
things beyond what we've ever seen before. And
that even if he does things according to a certain
pattern, we see a pattern happening. Okay, we
can see the Holy Spirit is moving here. But rather
than jumping on that and grabbing a hold of it
in the flesh, we need to be ready for him to
do something completely new that's outside of
the pattern. Yeah. And we have to be willing
to just submit and go with the flow. Outside
of the box. Outside of the box. So I had an experience
back in the late 90s that actually we talked
about it, I think, in episode one. If you've
never heard episode one of this podcast, you
could go back and listen to the whole thing.
We talked about this vision in particular. So
I'm just going to touch on it now and read part
of it. But it was a prophetic vision that the
Lord gave to me when it was described to me about
someone who is in the spirit -filled charismatic
movement. And she went back to her denominational
church because it was predictable. Okay, so there's
a pattern that's in the flesh that has lost the
fire of the Holy Spirit on it. I mean, it may
be really good, and maybe the Holy Spirit's going
to get as much done as he possibly can, because
that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to
help everybody get in, but he's only going to
do what we permit him to do. So after I heard
that, I had this vision of an atomic mushroom
cloud. Like this big explosion has just gone
off. And you know that when the atomic bombs
went off in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, that the
individuals who were at Ground Zero were basically
vaporized. There wasn't anything left of them.
Except their shadows. Their shadow in stone.
Yeah, their shadow was burned into the stone.
And so what the Lord gave me was this. This is
the message. We are at Ground Zero. of an atomic
explosion of God's mighty, heretofore unseen
power. All the known and predictable of God's
power, including all the miracles of the Bible,
the parting of the Red Sea, the sun standing
still in the Valley of Ajalon, the creative miracles
of the Gospels and the Book of Acts, will be
like the commonly known atoms before they are
split to release the energy of the atomic bomb.
When that explosion takes place, everything at
ground zero, everything normal, predictable,
I'm adding that now, will be vaporized. And a
pillar of the predictable known biblical miracles
will billow and shoot upward. But then a splitting
of those known miracles will occur, releasing
the unknown power of God to form the top of the
mushroom cloud. This unknown power will billow
out above the pillar of the known to stretch
far beyond the known into the reaches of the
domain seen by Ezekiel, Daniel, and John the
Revelator into that which Paul described as unlawful
or impossible to be uttered in 2 Corinthians
12, 2 -4. Those who will cling only to the normal
will be vaporized, so to speak. and disappear
from the scene. Those who will lay aside their
need to control and will yield to God will reach
into this explosion of God's glory and be catapulted
into miracle ministry. And those who will be
willing to let God shatter and smash their preconceived
understanding of God will be changed into the
image of the resurrected Christ. They will receive
their glorified bodies with their anatomical
structure rearranged at the atomic slash molecular
level, restoring the power of God to each atom.
They will come and go like the wind and pass
through walls like Jesus in his glorified body.
These will be used in the power and demonstration
of God's unknown power to be vessels of miracles
never before seen or dreamed of. This power goes
beyond reason. Beautiful. And that word for strange
things is the Greek word paradoxos. It means
beyond expectation or opinion, something beyond
one's expectation, a miracle. In Luke 5 .26,
it was used to express new things, miracles not
hitherto seen, and thus beside and beyond all
opinion and expectation of men. And that little
piece I just read comes from the Lexical Aids
to the New Testament by Spiros Adiades in the
Hebrew -Greek Key Study Bible. the addition that
I have from the 90s. So the point here is that
if you want to go beyond the normal, to go beyond
the known, to go beyond what you can predict,
you need to get into the presence of God. And
you need to submit to him and let him work inside
of you and let that flash of light. I mean, when
that atomic bomb went off, people in far distances,
their eyes were affected by the brightness of
the flash. So the flash of his presence that
will change us into his glory. We want to be
patterned. after his glory. Jesus was the pattern
son. And he did things that he saw the Father
doing. And he said the things that he heard the
Father saying. I had an experience just the other
day where I was meditating on the things of the
Lord and this idea of Jesus doing what he saw
his Father doing. I always had this understanding,
it was what I was taught or maybe what I just
gathered, That when Jesus would get up while
it was still dark and have his prayer time with
the Father, that he would have visions of what
was going to go on during the day. And that might
be true. That might be how it was. But this thing
that came to me was, it was like Jesus inside
of me was looking out through my eyes and looking
through his presence on the outside of me. And
sometimes I've experienced that. in the grocery
store or someplace where I'm out in the world,
and I see someone, and as I look at them, I see
the love of God for them. It's like God's love
is looking at them through my eyes. And I just
wonder if maybe that was what Jesus was experiencing,
where he only did what he saw his Father doing,
as he would look at a person. His eyes would
look on them in the Spirit. and see their need,
and have the understanding of what God wanted
to do. Because I think that's how it works, even
in ministry. I've had that kind of expectation
come to me, where I look at someone that's come
from ministry, and I can see what God wants to
do. So I believe that this is the pattern that
He wants to work in us, the pattern of the glory,
the pattern of the heavenly, the pattern of what
He wants to do in the earth. is what we're looking
for. So let's pray. Father, we submit ourselves
to you. And we're asking you to do in us and
do in the listeners who are saying yes in their
spirits, they're resonating with this message.
Lord, do in us according to the pattern of heaven,
that we can operate on earth as it is in heaven,
that we can be a part of that group of people
that are so submitted to you and so willing to
die to ourselves and to die to this life and
to die to our passions and our desires so that
we can have you. that we can have your way, Lord.
We just want to be those people that you will
be able to flash on the inside of us and cause
our bodies to be changed even, Lord. And while
we're in this process of getting there, Lord,
that you'll give us these experiences here and
there, Lord, where we're translated or where
we see miracles at our hands, Lord, as we obey
your spirit. Lord, cause us to flow with you.
Cause our listeners to flow with you and recognize
when you are doing something and that they have
that grace to be obedient because we want to
see your work done in the earth and that we pattern
our lives to live in your glory. In Jesus' name,
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